This or That | Blow Up the Roster

[@mischief_demon]

Gosh I love Cap. His smile is so contagious and he’s full of so much positive energy. I could watch him open a box of oatmeal and it would make my day.

[@koolaiddude7685894]

You should watch him and Ovilee play games together. They are a funny duo

[@darkprince3007]

Especially with those arms. *swoon*

[@koolaiddude7685894]

@@darkprince3007 cpt flowers actually has my forearm goals. Dude looks ripped

[@joshybones]

ask him on a date

[@colin5197]

when he first took over for jatt i was like welp way to ruin the show... but he's great, a lot of positive energy and he says some funny shit.

[@anders8096]

Flowers gets better every week. Wasn't too sure how I felt about him replacing Jatt at first, but hes doing great now.

[@XcZeus3469]

Cap is just the S-tier hypeman kind of caster. Put him in any kind of environment, let him feel out the situation, and hes gunna make a great impact.

[@Madness7612-k6l]

what fascinates me most about him is that he just casually comes up with very-well-thought-out figures of speech applied to league of legends, like the one in this video, where he mentions Yorick digging graves, but he's the one who finally ends up there when he has to teamfight. I don't know whether he prepares all of them in advance and just tries to find the right time to use them, but for me they all seem quite spontaneous.

[@kevinmaringuran25]

With Kobe and Cap :)

[@rezonance4937]

lol me too i was like "WITH KOBE AND CAP! REEEEEEEEE"

[@stonecat676]

Thank you.

[@samueldecarvalho9886]

Thanks

[@gwnchilenzo]

With who is this show done again? Rip intro

[@Jumpstartmc]

*whomst've

[@spring1242]

@@Jumpstartmc looks like your pathetic 2 brain cells are two years behind with your shitty memes

[@cakeri5033]

RIP our boy Jatt 💔

[@skrattaoppar9753]

This or That More Relevant? Griffin Losing to Gen G or Jin Air winning against AFs

[@NikeOlympus]

gen g. both jin air and AF have negative records. not even remotely relevant.

[@Brendan2906]

Terrible question

[@gsvalhalla]

Griffin losing because it shows the top team has a weakness (I'm assuming Griffin had one, not watched the game), plus it also kills the dream of an undefeated team in the LCK. Also Jin Air winning, doesn't mean anything, unless they escape relegation.

[@jakepayne9332]

Probably griffin because that lost means all of the stuff they did might be forgotten about this year. (Most people only see the SKT redemption). Whilst an flawless team will be easily remembered. I think it was IG who did something like that last year(can't remember though).

[@ImAnBoosterBaby]

@@jakepayne9332 and the skt-redemption is such a boring storyline, afterall. there is a change of generations happening and all they focus on is the old guys? cmon.

[@Xeaze1992]

Cap was a bit awkward in his first episode with Kobe, but man did he come along fast! 👍

[@LEVEL1420]

I miss jat, nothing against flowers.

[@timokorn430]

Bruh you can´t even spell his name...

[@ModChelly]

grow up

[@Ken-uh8md]

lul

[@Infamouscritter]

I love Captain flowers plus the kobe combo

[@Adjacent_2]

Cap got that Sean Spicer-fitted suit.

[@catlord69]

There couldve been this whats the better tactic ? this- target strong players that- target strong champions

[@landonhendrickson3000]

When you realize it wasn’t the targons brace giving the ardent buff, but it was the slow of trundles pillar and the keystone in resolve tree that were giving the buff, thinking....

[@markpringnitz9725]

Captain Flowers poetic phrasing is actually amazing.

[@takumifujiwara300]

I hear TF Blade saying how OP mages are BabyRage

[@shahini17]

Better tactic is to target ban weak players imo. Because the good players can play any champion, while the weak ones have smaller champion pool.

[@AbyssContent]

if u r good at jax for example doesnt mean u r good at all champs,

[@trainvreck]

We need a show like this for LEC

[@simonmayrand]

What happened with the lec audience and casters? I’m confused

[@wangthegangmc]

The casters didn't know how trundle was procing ardent censer. The audience yelled that the pillar procs the resolve rune that gives regen to allies if you can someone and the auto that same person

[@SuperJJAlexander]

Captain, where are you?

[@simonmayrand]

wangthegangmc thx captain!

[@wangthegangmc]

@@simonmayrand np

[@KimDokja63]

@@wangthegangmc i thought they yelled targon brace

[@sethdeath888]

ARG THAT MAGE VS FIGHTER TOP ONE IS SO TRUE AND PISSES ME OFF SO HARD

[@void56208]

There first problem is jungling with pings turned on

[@amethonys2798]

Second slide should have been "getting out smited by top laner or support"

[@thefirstk6331]

I think if i would be a Jungler then i would feel worse if another Jungler outsmited me because Toplaner usually have higher Level then the Jungler so more smite Damage + you dont suppose that the enemy Toplaner/Support has Smite to begin with so its more of an oupsie but to get outsmited from the other Jungler when you know he is around and you mess up that must feel bad.

[@colin5197]

@@thefirstk6331 you have a point with the level thing like when zoe's pick up smite... but this is competitive league and it says in the chat, this champ switched ignite to smite...

[@amethonys2798]

@@thefirstk6331 its mainly the fact that you like call baron after killing the jungler and then get it stolen by like Tahm Kench suicide ulting into the pit. You make the right call and then lose to a cheese keystone it feels. Spellbook just feels cheesy to me.

[@thefirstk6331]

@@amethonys2798 Yeah cheesy sounds pretty good for Spellbook. Spellbook is in some Games complete useless and in other Games can it decide the Game. I know how you meant it and that its just an example but if you get the Baron stolen by an Tham Kench Ulti into Baron Pit then you are just an bad Jungler because that ulti is timeable. xD

[@jevonscantlebury9834]

Loool and LEC audience is also the superior analyst

[@schaakakon9473]

I didnt get it, something about jungle procs ardent censor?

[@richardbeck2709]

@@schaakakon9473 It's about how Trundle procs Ardent Censor

[@jevonscantlebury9834]

@@schaakakon9473 It was trundle support and they build ardent and the casters didn't know how trundle procs ardent

[@schaakakon9473]

@@jevonscantlebury9834 Unless it procs from targons im not sure how it does either?

[@mishaelargonzajr1061]

@@schaakakon9473 Trundle used Front of Life rune. If he cc'd an enemy, it marks the opponent. When the ally attacks the marked opponent, he gets healed. Ergo, procing ardent

[@landerjanlindain9087]

can someone explain the LEC casters vs audience thing? didn't quite understand that one.

[@tiberiugabriel8304]

So, trundle bought Ardent and the casters tried to figure out what was the use of it and the audience shouted the support item. Hope you understand.

[@archoflife5910]

@@tiberiugabriel8304 it wasn't targon's brace it was the rune font of life that got proc when trundle hit his pillar on the enemy team

[@joeyrules316]

@1:56 id rather ban the weak player's champ. Because since the strong plays are good they can pretty much hop onto any champ and do well but a weak player will know 1 or 2 champs well and that's it.

[@BlastOffBobby]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@captainclink1038]

is this hide and seek with kobe and phreak?

[@XdivineExp]

Ya, Phreak is hiding.

[@trevorwheeler6807]

Captain flowers is the hype man of the LCS

[@tiagobrandao6588]

8:10 can someone tell what game they are talking about and what happened

[@liquidorion9250]

Week 8 Day 2 VIT vs G2. Jactroll played Trundle support and built Ardent Censer, which confused the casters because they didn't see how Trundle could shield/heal anyone to proc it. The audience then yelled and tried to explain that he had the Guardian rune (which shields you and an ally next to you upon taking damage) and I think Font of Life (which marks enemies you CC, here through his Pillar, and heals allies who attack them) as well.

[@vanillithy]

@@liquidorion9250 he had aftershock not guardian which is why the casters were confused. the audience yelled font of life (which is how the ardent works, through pillar indeed) but the casters understood "targon's brace" instead lol. (that said, targon's also works into proccing ardent)

[@tiagobrandao6588]

@@liquidorion9250 got it. thanks!

[@benjaminkirkegaard6058]

2:54 ohhh so that's my skarner from last game

[@topebin9076]

Best toplaner: Singed

[@nuzowi]

What was the LEC Casters trying to find ?

[@Inufan337]

Trundle was proccing Ardent Censor and the casters were trying to figure out why. If curious, it was because of the interaction with the Font of Life rune from Resolve tree, the Trundle pillar sets up the rune and the rune's heal on a nearby ally procs Censor

[@coffeecaveman123]

2:56 Captain Flowers thinks of himself more as "Skarner" than as "Captain Flowers" or "Jungler".

[@gerterz9432]

Lol that 8 sign from Kobe in the beginning

[@nartin9]

As a jungler there is nothing worse them smiting when objective is too high and losing it to smite. Well there is one worse feeling it is when you die to smite solo kill and no other spell or attacks where used.

[@sawyerlegzoff]

100 Thieves needs to drop Huhi and get a new midlander tbh. Maybe a new support. I just feel like aphromoo is burnt out :/

[@francisajay3465]

Or break Ssumday from 100t prison

[@thefirstk6331]

They subbed Huhi already and still losing Game after Game Bang and Aphro performing horrible aswell, Anda is pretty bad too and even Ssumday has a couple of off Nights where he got Solokilled in my Opinion change the hole Roster i like watching these old guys playing cause you know them already and grew up with them but look at Griffin/Sandbox these new young kids wanna prove themself and wanna play dont know if the LCS/LEC Coaches/Scouts are to lazy or to scared to bring in new young Player.

[@shiragatsu97]

Imagine being Cap, a play-by-play caster filling the shoes of a colour caster, while still being a play-by-play caster

[@midastheunwise2423]

Imagine having a jawline that majestic.

[@bishonen029]

Kobe seem like a good guy :)!

[@rubberduckyy5098]

Hmm... I feel like Kobe and Cap agrees more than than Kobe and Jatt :/

[@winceddf7857]

So why exactly does Trundle proc Arden censer?

[@FrodeSandberg]

Font of life

[@Icewulf1111]

winced df not sure if you‘re meming , but if not, trundle with font of life , Q and E -predominantly E - proc the rune , and if the adc get‘s the small heal on hit it counts

[@FrodeSandberg]

Oh yeah right, relic shield. Thanks @Frode Sandberg

[@GnralexPlus]

He got redemption lol

[@ivopivcevic5752]

Better traded mid-laner? Caps. Jensen.

[@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil]

Caps all day every day... Best Danish player

[@Laticia1990]

I'd say Caps was the better trade, it give G2 a crazy number of comps they can run because Perkz is so versatile in the bot lane.

[@thefirstk6331]

I would go with the Caps trade but not because he is the better Player i think Perkz and him are a little overrated but iam thinking the same about Faker not that they are bad Player they are still Top Tier Midlaner but not the best of the best the thingy is the Caps trade did hurt Fanatic much more then the Jensen trade hurted C9 so they not just got better they made their strongest opponet weaker aswell.

[@colin5197]

neither were a trade, jensen's contract was bought out by steve and then signed with liquid, caps just signed with G2

[@thefirstk6331]

@@colin5197 I just know from 1 trade in the LCS till now this dont happens pretty much but when Player change their Teams it can be called trading aswell.

[@Rock_Surfer]

We want Teamfight Breakdown back!

[@OwGash]

Not knowing about font of life was a bit painful tho lol

[@7833497]

Does someone know title of the clip with LEC casters vs LEC audience?

[@IncarnationDb13]

The casters didn't know how trundle was procing ardent censer. The audience yelled that the pillar procs the resolve rune that gives regen to allies if you can someone and the auto that same person

[@JetHawk222]

Lmao the LEC BMs!

[@frost598]

What game was the 8th slide from?

[@Dimitar1099]

Vitality vs G2 LEC week 8 day 2

[@ChibiNinja01]

Dropping in just to say I love Kobe! He's cute af.

[@jorgepereira7409]

Can someone tell me what happened to Jatt?? Honestly don't know

[@thefirstk6331]

Jatt left to join the Balance Team Sir Jorge Pereira so hes still working for Riot but not casting anymore.

[@jorgepereira7409]

@@thefirstk6331 wtf, the balance team, whoa that could be really interesting! To Bad Halo was annoucend for PC and I will never play League ever again!! xD

[@regalvas]

What was the last slide referencing?

[@thefirstk6331]

In the LEC Match G2 vs Vit Jactroll did build Adent on Trundle and the Caster didnt know how he would proc it and then the Audience was screaming Front of Life you can watch it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZu7l6uYlLCUn6s

[@YuranX]

In Vitality vs G2 game, the VIT support built ardent censer on trundle and the casters couldn't understand how is he able to proc it but the audience knew it procs off the Font of life rune and tried to shout it to them .

[@regalvas]

@@YuranX thanks for the explanation

[@YuranX]

@@regalvas No problemo :v

[@jaredrosin5059]

Those 2 are the best team and so funny I swear! I hope they keep casting tell there is no more universe to cast anything about anymore LMAO 🤣!

[@JetpackDream]

That tie tho

[@lonelyprince0]

whats the thing about LEC caster vs audience

[@aurelienperetou7786]

A player picked trundle supp a built ardent censor and the casters didn't understand because he didn't have guardian or spells which heal so some guys in the crowd tell that works with targon and the rune which heals on slow

[@aurelienperetou7786]

Sry for English btw

[@vhatuma]

I think it is about that in LEC they started counting predictions for each match for the regular season, to find out who is the best analyst. The casters each have to predict the results for the 10 match each week. Also in the race is a stat bot algorithm predicting based on players stats and the fans voting on twitter. Currently the fans are in the lead.

[@LunarMongoosey]

Gotta read the slides Kobe

[@CamLovesOlliepop]

taric one-trick, yes better ban taric. 😂 that save. 👌👌

[@sandrexsatoquia1442]

Tbh it was vedius alone, last week his cast were full of questions.

[@giss182]

what happened tho? I wasn't able to watch lec last weekend

[@irisschroder7904]

@@giss182 there were a Trundle Support w ardent 1st and they tried to figure out how to proc ardent... the LEC Audience literally scream "Front of Life" bcs the Casters were helpless :D

[@justnobody9260]

@@giss182 basically front of life lets you mark opponents when you slow or cc tthem and lets your teammate heal when attacking an opponent with the mark of front of life procing ardent during the process

[@sandrexsatoquia1442]

Also, he kept questioning ryla's scepter on ryze like "iT'z n0t c0mp4tibl3 t0 ryz3 As a ch4mp1on" disregarding the fact that it's a very cost-efficient item for ryze especially when behind. He kept dragging drakos and frosk into situations that made the two look bad too.

[@thefirstk6331]

@@sandrexsatoquia1442 wtf so asking Questions now is dragging other People down if you dont know something you ask smh. Sure its his Job to know this but same with the other 2 you mentioned they are just Humans they cant know everything would you rather have silence or Stories of their Life like the other Casters doing thats kinda more anoying for me.

[@ApfLP2000]

0:04 you know they had to do it to 'em

[@wilihelm2242]

Would love to see a video about the final slide that would be funny af to see. If someone can hit me up on that it would be much appreciated

[@ParkerBai92]

Completely disagree with blowing up the roster, building around your stars is how teams become successful in other pro sports. Look at the GS Warriors who built their entire team around Steph Curry.

[@ShaTziLoft]

Look at TSM who builds their entire roster around bjerg. Sometimes it works sometimes it dont.

[@flame7153]

Sspidy Ssenses Ssumday is the only part of the team working? He’s incredibly good and the reason they even have 4 wins. He needs to be built around.

[@koolaiddude7685894]

@@ShaTziLoft bjerg been there for a while yes, but they dont build their team around him. That's why they fail, and teams like TL do well. TL actually built their team to play around DL....that's it..you can even ask DL that and he will say the same. TSM just buys stars in Hopes they mesh. This is why 100T is STRUGGGGGGLING and TSM is just barely hitting par. More stars doesnt equal more success

[@ParkerBai92]

@@ShaTziLoft Fair enough, but blowing up an entire roster when there are clearly good pieces to build around is idiotic, look at the New York Giants and Ottawa Senators for examples of that.

[@undeadkiller1123]

Build around Bang and Ssumdayy easily, throw the academy 100T support and jungle in since Soligo is already on the team.

[@AlexGF008]

why this or that is always about the LCS but not the LEC?

[@TheOMGHe]

They had a slide about the LEC! =)

[@AlexGF008]

@@mrirror2277 it used to feature more than just the LCS

[@thefirstk6331]

Its about all the LCK LEC and LCS even the OPL was in this Episode but its mostly LCS because the Show is from the LCS Crew and it runs right before the LCS starts if you want to watch more about the LEC watch EUphoria.

[@YuranX]

@@thefirstk6331 I remember they used to talk about other regions way more, plus EUphoria is in exchange for The Dive hmmm...

[@alecxisgarcia1990]

You shouldn't feel bad about being outsmited. You should feel bad for coinflipping baron. Both are stupid mistakes that shouldn't have gone to that point anyway.

[@Quang1999]

in a pro game for sure. In a SoloQ match where you don't have the coordination of a 5 men team then it feels pretty bad, and they were obviously talking in the context of a typical rank game.

[@renelmorales63]

FONT OF LIFE

[@coffeecaveman123]

Kobe, ever since Jatt left, you became the awkward one

[@Ken-uh8md]

how did people not predicte 100t to fail they have huhi and anda

[@NooobLP]

didnt watch it all, which game do they mean with the LEC Audience slide?

[@ticket7012]

During Vitality vs G2, Vitality built support Trundle with ardent censer and the casters were trying to figure out how it works. The audience was screaming "Font of life" but the casters then went "oohhh targons".

[@TheEpicClanFTW]

well, i think it was expectable to see 100t down there. just look at huhi and anda xD

[@thefirstk6331]

tbh Bang and Aphro playing horrible aswell and even Ssumday has a couple of off Nights the same with the Misfits Lineup they seem to struggle aswell and where hyped like the best Team in EU now before the Season this building Superteams dont works all the Time the Teams and Coaches really should try to find young fresh blood much of the older Player dont perform that good anymore but i guess they are to lazy or scared to bring in new Player. Dont get me wrong i like the older Player alot cause you know them and watched them so much but still new is not always worse.

[@cryochick6736]

what about a mage fighter cough cough Sylas cough cough

[@Gamber63]

Diana?

[@thefirstk6331]

Just cause an Mage is melee makes him not an Fighter they are still focus on spells. Then Fizz, Diana, Akali and some more would be Fighter aswell for me AP=Mage Jax is maybe an exception since he builds Hybrid but Autos are important on him.

[@samromalis3239]

Sylas literally says that he is a mage lol also Diana is under the 'Fighter' class in the client

[@Gamber63]

@@samromalis3239 I usually go for semi tank Sylas build instead of full ap, his endurance is higher than expected tho

[@Guzinator555]

call left ''this'' and right ''that'', like before. that's much more clear that way

[@Guzinator555]

and it's what the show is called

[@midqualitygaming3498]

This or that This is that and that is this. So, this or that?

[@CG_INcrease]

Capt. Flowers saying mages not good for splitpushing? As far as i know at least 1 of those this played is a huge splitpusher(ryze) and as fsr as i know vlad is ok for both kind of playstyles

[@vinhtien9088]

KZbin Night Mode 🌙🌑

[@szszkVT]

captainflower's chin tho

[@jimwang17]

I feel like hashinin is screaming at slide 7

[@eLmasten1991]

What happen to This or That with Kobe and the Cap?

[@Shawn17WiFi]

LEC CASTERS OMEGALUL

[@YuranX]

LCS Players Omegalul :D

[@cupcakecula321]

Riot infiltrated by skrulls confirmed.

[@clee3352]

Skarner - Alive

[@io-sk4fl]

They should’ve said Bruisers instead of Mages just Hashinshin doesn’t have reference on us.

[@thefirstk6331]

You mean instead of Fighter right? The Bruiser are the Fighter not? Mages are Mages.

[@NotMySight]

Maybe if 100T hadn't blown up CodySun and treated various players like shite, they wouldn't need to consider blowing up the roster or building around Ssumday and Bang (Who I feel has not been worth the investment at all).

[@Klosterhasi]

Better ban tactic? target the weak players! one player cant carry the game, but one player can lose the game for you. Feeding has more impact than skill, because feeding makes the game 6 v 4 (or 5 v 4.5 in higher elo)

[@drvinylscratch1936]

Slide 2 101 reasons to ban out TFblade

[@noratek4286]

I miss Jatt

[@tntdarkinarus3589]

2 years more than 1000 day hmmmm MathKobe 0:30

[@BoomerTex]

When are we going to find out what streak there is involving TSM and CLG? Winning, losing, taking players from them, finishing higher / lower in the standings??? I really don't know the relationship between TSM and CLG except they have both been in the league a long time. Whatever the streak is we know it has gone on for a long time - they said 2 or 3 years, but 4 digits of days means at least 3 full years. (3 x 365 = 1095) The fact they said TSM has been up and down but I think it will still continue implies TSM always wins??? I guess this show really wants fans to have to research the information themselves. Or spend hours watching The Dive to know what they are talking about on the shorter programs.

[@thec4christian687]

Tsm hasn't lost to clg since spring 2016 finals

[@Domingazz]

LOLESPORTS TEAM i want to see this or that LEC edition ;-;

[@ostnismo]

For 100T get rid of aphromoo, huhi and prolly and your team will be back on track.

[@Ragemuffn]

Bruh 100T had a downfall IN their first year. They had one good split then ate curb since summer and worlds. New roster didn’t help.

[@the78thHesparian]

Sooo, is kobe drunk?

[@marvinmirkovic7259]

kobe u seem tired of this format..what happened?

[@bladesofglory100]

How are you seriously gonna say Nisqy almost played better? Jensen hard carried that game.

[@tengurius3464]

Well it's hard to say he carried considering he looked like he was on survival mode, because C9 wanted to kill him a lot. I mean personally he played a great game, but Nisqy did push him out of lane quite a few times. Personally for me it was Xmithie because of his impeccable timings and him surviving a lot of fights so they can get objectives. Not to mention his shutdown of Svenskeren in the jungle, god that was terrible jungling on Svens part.

[@MOMOMO20121]

You guys would fit nicely in a daily soap "D

[@h0nk3d]

Anda is the problem lol

[@ghostwolfx]

This got so much worse without Jatt

[@leendertrobert1727]

Bring back Jatt

[@maxcormier7821]

when mages are the best class to be played top lane and riot still doesn't nerf their items. lul

[@KaizenDRL]

You guys didn’t even say what the streak was? A winning streak or losing? Hello?!

[@celeste3899]

how to fix 100t? remove anda and it's good.

[@thefirstk6331]

Aphro and Bang playing even worse then Anda both Midlaner are bad aswell and even Ssumday as many of Nights where he get Solokilled i would rather blow the complete Roster and search for some new Player instead of these old Veterans how should just retire.

[@xapplepie6890]

Weak players up to Gold. Strong players from Diamond. What are we plats then? Normies? :(

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

Casuals haha

[@josuazeroo2011]

We are in the purgatory...

[@Jayynoz.]

Josua Manurung ayyy 7 Deadly Sins 😂

[@thefirstk6331]

They should just remove Plat and make Gold 1-10. xD But yeah this was kinda a fail from them.

[@Inufan337]

Consistent : )

[@puita007]

How to fix 100T bench anda, bench huhi, make apho play well, win all :v

[@flame7153]

People are scared to say bench Aphro bc he’s one of the best veteran supports of NA history but...he’s playing like the worst support in NA rn. Needs to get benched for Stunt.

[@fujisyusuuke1709]

@@flame7153 agree.. if they bench aphro, might as well replace prolly since he was the one who made the team around aphro

[@flame7153]

Fuji Syusuuke I personally think he should be fired regardless. He waited far too long to bring Soligo who’s been playing much better than Huhi, but he still hasn’t tried subbing in Fragas, one of the best Junglers in NA academy imo, and he hasn’t tried subbing in Stunt. Terrible coach imo.

[@xjminahh]

BETTER BAN TARIC LMAO

[@ltia513]

Nothing about FNC-G2?? Rlly?

[@iSa_Ach]

This or that is more on LCS rather than other regions.

[@grumpydude1598]

100t needs to get rid of prolly, thats it

[@helloimaustin2526]

LEC 😂😂

[@eLmasten1991]

EU>NA

[@JasonJia11]

Leave it to EU to always be talking about how much superior EU is to NA even when it's not relevant.