League of nationalists: How far can new Le Pen-Orban alliance go? • FRANCE 24 English

The optics are startling. Russia bombing a children’s hospital in Kyiv while the leader of the country that holds the rotating presidency of the European Council wrapped up a so-called peace tour that included stops in Moscow and Baku before Beijing. At no point during his Kremlin visit did Hungary’s Viktor Orban denounce Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine nor display an EU flag.
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[@startarot5876]

Go Orban Viktor!!! Vive Le Pen !!!✌️🙏

[@kiskawillis]

Yeah, go LOOSERS! GO! haha.

[@gtrdxz]

@@kiskawillis cry more 🤣

[@kdnofyudbn5918]

She seems upset about "democracy in action".

[@uromvictor]

@@cinziam457 The is nothing Democratic about Totalitarianism. (and single think)

[@kiskawillis]

@@uromvictor Democracy in action? Are you referring to RUZZIA and their Z-Army as democracy? That's hilarious. Actually, you should buy a one way ticket to Moscow haha

[@curiosity230]

Warmongers are not happy

[@cinziam457]

Putin's a warmonger. So is America.

[@kiskawillis]

Are you referring to the person who targets children's hospitals and schools? That warmonger? Yes, you're right; he's not pleased with the latest NATO announcement about air defense. But you're just a bot (or brain dead), so this conversation is a waste of my time that I can never get back. 😄

[@SocialHigh]

You discussing fake news warmongering liars showed an actor covered in blood even though you know he was a fake actor with red paint on him. There is an actual video of him being caught in the act🤬🤬🤬

[@kiskawillis]

and you're a bot or brain dead. What's your point?

[@eddieokpara3549]

Orban visited Ukraine first, why ignore that. Blessed are the peacemakers

[@dweb]

​@@bodyloverz30🇭🇺 🤝 🇷🇺 🤝 🇨🇳 🤝 🇰🇵 HU 🤝 RU 🤝 CH 🤝 NK Viktor Orbán shows his true colors and loyalty.

[@DirtyRocha]

The only blessing needed is for you to get a brain, unless it is not clear that he does it for personal gain.

[@willaxesawian9242]

its amazing how little politicians need to muddy the waters to confuse people. A traitor can still say their 'please' and 'thank you' when it helps them

[@matej5061]

True

[@HiepNguyen-xs2pr]

what is the point to visit Ukraine? Orban is always pro Russia and withheld EU aids to Ukraine, just a show

[@AlexanderEM4840]

41:46 I would remind her that there was no massive rejection, RN got 37% of the popular vote, and second place got 26%. The polls were spot on, and the parlament projections would come true if the system and the people were left to freely vote, instead politicians decided to meddle by denying their voters to vote for certain parties depending on their region, forcing voters to either vote tactically or to not vote at all, abusing a system that is meant to favor pluralities, precicely to avoid a hung parlament...... This is contempt for the electorate, and it is contempt for frances democratic system.

[@RangerXXT]

looking at the numbers....no they didn't get 37%, which by the way much smaller than 63% so what are you saying?

[@LightForxes]

@@TheSam661 WTF are you smoking lol? RN first round got 33.21% of the vote (10.6mil) AND the second round RN scored the highest at 37.06% (10.1mil). Use your brain or go back to school and learn how to read results..

[@tudormiller887]

Same here in 🇬🇧 But more subtle.

[@arthurd6495]

The "Karen" from the MEP Greens is hilarious. Her concern is reassuring to me.

[@Leptospirosi]

I couldn't agree more! 😂😂😂 Her entitlement and delusion are just on another level! 😂😂😂

[@cinziam457]

Using the term "Karen" appeals to lowest-common denominator.

[@cinziam457]

@@Leptospirosi Are you a professional comedian?!!

[@Zanzan8]

​@@cinziam457....says who

[@ZsH85]

@@cinziam457 no, it is the perfect term. you just dont like it because youre a karen too.

[@Leptospirosi]

Wow! All France 24 was able to invite for this one sided debate is a MEP Karen! 😂😂😂

[@uromvictor]

A serious Karen.

[@husnumurat]

Never forget, you make peace with the enemy. Who argues for war, is a kleptocrat.

[@happymelon7129]

😆Italy PM Meloni , don't want to have photo with the rest of G7 leader. This is bad luck. All of them will be gone 2025.

[@andraslantos2325]

"Fidesz" is pronounced with an English "s" (like "snake"). Hungarian "sz"= English "s", not "sh".

[@Fredochkaerlek]

Yes. But they are speaking English, not Hungarian. 🎉

[@andraslantos2325]

@@Fredochkaerlek But "sz" is not pronounced like "ship" in English. Pronouncing "feedesh" is just wrong, not English.

[@Fredochkaerlek]

@@andraslantos2325 There is no sz construct in English so he fudged it.

[@andraslantos2325]

@@Fredochkaerlek Yes, that's what I'm saying, it's lame. Fidesz appears on this channel regularly, it would be elegant to pronounce it right.

[@eddieokpara3549]

Hypocrisy defined. When did the U.N count. Its alarms about Isreal was not heeded

[@juniormolefe3046]

Orban is a pragmatic leader😂with Hungary benefiting from his look east policies😂

[@vilmosprima1861]

juniormolefe What has Hungary benefited from "his look east policies"?

[@Venezolano410]

Europeans lecturing Russia on war crimes but when the USA invades or destabilize other countries, the Europeans are very quiet and no where to be found. 🤔

[@csabatoth7205]

the funny they want lecture hungary about the russians too :) we one of the nations in europe who fight 5 war against russia!!!!! simple delusioned who think the hungarians friend with russia or we forget the messacre in 56. funny this ppl say in hungary have dictatorship and eu use censura all over western europe. Eu its economic alliance not a kingship!! Hungary want peace beacuse the human life its more important then the politic carriers. we never say ukraine give up anything just start talk!!!

[@ZsH85]

They even try to make it look bad that orban is on a peace mission... imagine that

[@kiskawillis]

Oh shut up will you. No one buys into that line of argument anymore. Two wrongs don't make it right. NO one is buying what you're selling ;-)

[@gtrdxz]

I dont think america has invaded a single "stable" country 🤣but dont complain when they dont help your country

[@MrCleitus]

Orban is also going to Washington and then zEU parliament, but they don't mention that.

[@juniormolefe3046]

Lepen afd meloni orban a natural reaction to globalists 😂

[@Fredochkaerlek]

5:05 someone must talk to him if we want the war to end 🎉.😢

[@juniormolefe3046]

The new European will emerge after the election of Trump 😂Christ is King 👑

[@ariapipe32]

These people are such hypocrites

[@hullandras]

best of luck for the new group👍

[@matej5061]

I hope for that too party from my country was been one of founders of this party

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

A long Chevrolet of something no Ferrari

[@najex1]

I do find it dirty for LePen to make an alliance with Orban almost immediately after the French elections were over. They knew it would be unpopular.

[@invisible-zt8xh]

Le Pen won 10m votes ALONE while each coalition got 6m each. What are you talking about? France is not a democracy.

[@Leptospirosi]

It's politics: RN needed another group (ID had dissolved) and being in a group has been the main goal for Orban (money and commissions roles in the parliament) from the begin. ECR would probably not have accepted RN because of unclear stances about NATO and Ukraine. The Lega has always been more akin to Orban then to Le Pen, so it was a clear shifter. Entering the Patriots was probably the only option, but at least they did it after group rates had been fixed, when the EU commissions are assigned by size of the group. ECR was still the third on 4th July due to that decision so Orban influence is reduced. Things could also change and permanence in a group is not enforced: everyone can leave at any time. I'm not a Le Pen fan due to certain positions being kept murky on purpose, but she's always better then the Red caravanserrai which Macron sparked.

[@cinziam457]

And yet she was quick to accuse the left of dirty tactics in creating an alliance, which is par for the course. Le Pin, Orban, Putin, Trump, Erdogan, Meloni, Bolsonaro (just indicted for money laundering)....Fascists.

[@meisievannancy]

DIRTY?

[@fujack99]

Probably he does not know what he is talking! DIRTY??? LOL

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Theres not very much too say under wraps unless its pensions. They don't also

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Only ours. Because when i think about it, its loyal too me periodically

[@LaszloBartha-cs4tq]

Peace! No more war! All that push words in favour of war should do that from the frontline. They should go fight the war they push, not send others!

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Elizabeth made me mad so lets try too pretend that, didn't happen

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

No Cadillac hursts

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

See if it fits

[@looking5050]

Gwendoline...Greens MEP is a real Karen. Looks like she has no clue. Thanks to them, Russia is now the fastest growing country in Europe

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

If marbles had a way id collect. I don't. They do though. Mines coming

[@freebozkurt9277]

Gwendoline, oh Gwendoline, you are worried of loosing control over media, courts and people will have a say again, they will be able to say what they think about you.

[@georgeholmer8563]

Europe has always needed people shouting from the front but the ever closer union develops from within, not from the front.

[@LittleLottie-nj2gb]

Any truth in the rumour that France is changing its national flag from the tricolour to a white flag?

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Guessing is a system now . Lets make sure we follow or do absolutely nothing. Like zilch

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

As a god king, i hate people, who give advice without acknowledgement and English channels are bad for that and i underestimate the dog act

[@louistan7560]

A good question. But they do offer an alternative to EU countries that are increasingly being stressed by the EU Commission's heretic policies.

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Like we work for free or something. That tale is they do

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Words are powerful ask why again

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Risks a word, try roman cathedral

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

With black pilots

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

We hope for the best only. Maybit be Roman rulership eh. I know boris has one in his room

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

In Romes cap

[@leemarthaler7195]

Stand my brothers

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

If worlds had sence of smell they probably pick up on hamster dung then debate fairness

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

If you look at England's king of today, theres a huge translation loss that you and i never pick up and i believe its Williams height that makes me talk too Charles more. Is that logical because if so Boris Johnson has something say today

[@georget.1203]

A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. EU knows its weakest link and its foes know it too and are happy to use it. Find it funny that they know what will happen and do nothing about it and complain once it happens.

[@NovaHw-ii1tc]

European values did not stop European countries from committing war crimes and creating humanitarian crises around the world. For the last 20-30 years as a result of NATO's military interventions as well as provision of military equipment and support around 2 million civilians died in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Palestine. It's almost 100 time more than Russia killed so far in Ukraine. And after all of that they have the gall to teach Orban how he should conduct peace negotiations and whom he is allowed to visit and whom he is not.

[@kiskawillis]

You almost sounded intelligent for a second. :D

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

And toy factories

[@Joseph13163]

he didn't display an EU flag how terrible

[@Harsh-mg2em]

I agree, EU is a disaster and Hungary should leave it! let's do a campaign for Hungary to actually leave EU, they need to be free since they hate it so much.

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

So i look to big willy and see if his groupies are relevant. Which they're not ,as English literature not channel. Barriers

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Maybe rice will grow. In trees

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

For his kindness

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Only

[@robertprawendowski2850]

⭐️

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Gamble

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

And Mennonite acupuncture

[@i.m.gurney]

Regression is not the solution to saving religion. If religion is to be maintained in light of academic revelations it needs a rebirth, it needs to synchronise with the discovered truths, not attempt mask, deny them. New conservatism, not classicism.

[@i.m.gurney]

To be clear, world wide, I believe all variants of religion require this rebirth transition to bring themselves inline with the discovered truth. Discovery that has yet to conclude.

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

In the motion, we own absolutely nothing. Wheres theyre trade agreements, let me tell you where it is, its nowhere where they can find or see it, so if its Roman empire they rant or whatever humans do in governmental terms /standards they can scream too the Himalayas and reach ping pong mountain and view any white monk they desire . As concerned,only. Maybe

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

Like my black wife

[@ZeuzBluez]

This guy s english is so irritating to my ears.

[@English_Dawn]

The shouty, studenty left protested in the streets when not winning the first round. Did the NR supporters protest in the streets when not winning the second round? Who is a bigger threat to democracy?

[@soundscape26]

Seemingly nobody because I don't think democracy in France will be cancelled either way.

[@Lisa-my5sy]

The left is extremely violent

[@gonczos]

So called "EU intellectuals" craving for Ukrainian sacrifices from the sofa between some ideological orientational workshops in the comfy EU meeting rooms.

[@LandlockedPirate]

Basically the left loosing power and they are concerned. Nice debate, all about "far-right". If the left cant even get to the point where they cant talk about the right wing without labeling them to far-right, fascist, then whats the point to even sit down, and talk to them. Propaganda from the left. Half way i stopped, this is just a whining, not a debate.

[@SocialHigh]

How do you live with yourself knowing you’re lying about who bombed the hospital even though everybody now knows the truth from video evidence🤬🤬🤬 You will some day be held to account

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

My captain you know of , has logistics as English literature and the culture they bring isnt policy i know that first glance. When they drop my daughter off and use the animal for dates

[@user-gb7bn2wd5y]

I live for casinos. Please let me slide by and wage

[@usdepartmentofthetreasury489]

#fakenews

[@soundscape26]

If they are the Patriots I prefer to be anti-Patriot. 😂

[@Harsh-mg2em]

Orban is a patriot of his and his friends pockets

[@Ghost-airlines]

Hopefully mr Orban is done domestically after his Moscow and China tours…..this is getting ridiculous….one can be patriotic without being a traitor….also one can be nationalistic of ALL persuasions, because there have been nationalistic parties from the far left to the far right , historically, in europe and South America ….Anyway, people in mr Melenchons camp are also not that pro EU and pro immigration, from what i understand, in France?🇫🇷

[@brianawuor1824]

Uncle Sam said get off ma d**k.

[@DirtyRocha]

A big sector of the population is already fed up and done with him, it will only get worse for him in 2 years until the next election, where he may finally fall. In the mean time you'll keep seeing "closet" rightoids, bragging.

[@MrCleitus]

You have no clue what Orban is trying to do with these visits, none.

[@freeman041]

Orban is the kind of leader Europe needs desperately

[@ZsH85]

peace makers are the new traitors? since when and according to who? you pal??? dont make me laugh

[@jbagger331]

Pan flays the scions of dimunitive Jove, tormented scribes fashion words for town criers rage to against the plebs.

[@stupidburp]

Axis of cruelty

[@ZsH85]

yeah! ursula and biden should be in JAIL !!!

[@Mitiku-mp7kv]

You guys shound governor

[@dral9971]

Nowhere

[@Harsh-mg2em]

We should trade Hungary for Ukraine with Putin. Ukraine can join EU, Orban can join Soviet Union as he wants, everyone is happy.

[@ZsH85]

was your day nice in kindergarten? did you draw with crayons ?

[@Harsh-mg2em]

@@ZsH85 Are you one of those libs who defends the EU? It's a very bad institution, if you agree, you should want based Hungary out, otherwise you're a lib too.

[@numeronoo8080]

Hülye vagy😂😂😂 senki nem akarjs ukrajnat😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jonnieinbangkok]

Slava Rossiya #RN #AdF #MAGA2024

[@ReadyWriter0001]

"A foreigner is a foreigner" Live with that 😂 Migrant entitlement mentality

[@lockedandloaded6522]

THE LEAGUE OF YOUR FUTURE JAILERS!

[@perseuspersikus6830]

Psycho

[@karoltomis5704]

Berman of Solzhenitzin fame

[@aspencouloir761]

As opposed to the nut jobs, who want to put people in prison for mean tweets, and online posts & control speech? The tyrants are already in the house, but too many people are “govern me harder, daddy” fools

[@RopekingRopethemall]

The LEAGUE OF EUROPEAN LEADERSHIP

[@StarSprangledBanner]

*Russian

[@soundscape26]

Aside from lacking the support of the majority of Europeans yeah...

[@ZsH85]

@@StarSprangledBanner EUROPEAN

[@gailg2327]

Yay patriots!

[@awufiyusuf9286]

🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@dweb]

Viktor Orbán is the hard lesson for the EU to never again accept a Trojan Horse into the union and then also give in to their blackmail.

[@MrCleitus]

Yeah, he wants peace in Europe, only fools want that right.

[@ZsH85]

wow peace talks are sooooo bad yeah! they cannot push their ww3 ! booo

[@Culturesocialism-cz7jx]

The EU leaders do not want freedom of speech. And they want to distribute war propaganda. .. Orban is a rock star who is for peace and for the freedom of speech like the rock stars in 1960s.

[@kiskawillis]

exactly right!

[@ZsH85]

@@kiskawillis why are you guys believing and spreading nonesense? cant you see whats happening? really, you cant?

[@Gaia1980-xv1mt]

Go Russia go orban China 😂😂😂

[@rolyrodriguez1000]

Russia and China have a recession coming. A big one.

[@Culturesocialism-cz7jx]

And after that take Brussels!