Canon R8 Initial Hands On Review | Leading the Pack

[@ritammelgunov]

If Canon R8 would have ibis it would be a heavier and more expensive camera. Thus it would lose its uniqueness and extreme convenience as the most lightweight and inexpensive full frame camera in the world. Same with battery: if it would have a bigger battery it would be a heavier camera. So if one wants IBIS and bigger battery he just should buy Canon R6 Mark 2. Canon R8 with Ibis and bigger battery is Canon R6 Mark 2, very simple and evident. People complain so much about lack of Ibis in R8 and exaggerate it so much. Why do people need IBIS so much really? Any decent lens now has a very good IS. It's quite enough for convenient sure shooting. If one wants Ibis for shooting video handheld it's ridiculous. If one is really serious about shooting video handheld then he anyway just gets gimbal. And if one still wants so much to shoot video exclusively handheld without gimbal then let him just buy R6.

[@Sk_user_s]

Right👍🏻

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

Used r6 is about the same price as an r8 now

[@spritual_enlightenment]

Canon brought out an excellent budget camera but don't have budget lenses. Ha!

[@learningcameras]

They have a 35, 50, and 85 as well as a few zooms...not horrible. It's the apsc line that has nothing. But ideally they will just let 3rd party companies fill in the gaps

[@Sodacake]

Yep and they won't let 3rd party manufacturers make lenses either.

[@77dris]

Unlike Sony/Nikon/Panasonic the Canon adapted system works with 0 loss in performance. In fact, the EF lenses adapted to mirrorless work just as well - in some cases better - than the native RF glass (or native GM glass on Sony). My Sigma Art 50 1.4 focuses 2x faster than the RF 50 1.2 and it cost me 1/3 the price and even with the adapter, it's smaller than the RF lens. The amount of lenses and third party options for the EF line is insane and the prices are less than native third party options for Sony.

[@77dris]

The 35, 50, and 85 are budget and they are exceptional, better than the Sony equivalents and for less money. Alex Barerra did a comparison of the R6 and A7IV with these entry level lenses and the Canon system cost less and the image quality was better/sharper than on the Sony system.

[@mbismbismb]

Typically other fanboys.. attacking canon about their lenses hahaha

[@DynamicGravity]

Feels more like an RP replacement than an Eos R. I'm just waiting a more photo-focused middle ground with the R and R5, and a fast 35

[@brthiebauth]

The R8 actually has a faster continuous autofocus framerate than the EOS R. The EOS R does have a max of 8fps, but that drops to 5fps with continuous autofocus. Looks like a great budget camera at $1,500!

[@MikeTheMusa]

So should I go for this for buy my friends R5 he offered his for $2200 with batteries , 50mm lens extra batteries and bag

[@ThinkingArtEntertainment]

I'm really intrigued by the fact that it has no overheating in 4k, but lack of IBIS sucks. Only reason I ever take my R6 anywhere is because I want an extremely light setup and don't want to take a gimbal or tripod w/ me.

[@learningcameras]

Yeah...I mean I understand it slightly given the price since it's expensive hardware but you nailed it, that's a massive feature for people who want a compact camera with no extra gear

[@mbvglider]

It honestly depends on the lenses you have. If you have the newest RF lenses, most of them have IS. Also, it could be a perfect second camera for many pro users.

[@hawkboy000]

@@mbvglider bingo. This would be a great 2nd camera for me for wedding videos

[@deeceevisuals]

Canon has become the Apple of cameras…they give and take away the same features, while making their lenses and accessories next to unaffordable. All to turn around and give them all back to you in the latest release when you already dumped money into another build

[@bala1000mina]

I love your reviews Dan! I learn a lot from your videos, fluent, informative, rich and friendly! God bless you and good luck with whatever you do in your life!

[@learningcameras]

Means so much! Thanks Nate

[@onlysublime]

The funny thing is when I first bought my r5, it came with electronic first curtain on by default and because I was hearing the shutter, I assumed I was in mechanical shutter mode. I can't tell the difference but I did switch to mechanical shutter out of habit. But I guess I was using electronic first curtain for almost a year

[@Stan_the_Belgian]

Did you notice differences in the pictures?

[@onlysublime]

@@Stan_the_Belgian when I first realized it was in a warehouse. The lighting in the ware caused every other picture to be a different luminance. It wasn't as bad as electronic shutter but still visible. That was when I set the camera to mechanical shutter instead of electronic first curtain

[@jeffreyfleming4016]

Quite a serious little camera, and the inclusion of 4k60 422 10 bit is a stunner at this price point. It looks like Canon has caused some turbulence in the market. Wonderful!

[@pal54321]

again, canon forcing that crap LPE17 battery on people. They learned nothing from the RP backlash.

[@thesupport4963]

are you serious??? this is the kind of camera you give your kid when he finally decides to stop taking pics with this Iphone. And at $1700 with a crap lens?

[@jeffreyfleming4016]

Well Gosh😊👍

[@thesupport4963]

@@jeffreyfleming4016 sorry. just ranting.

[@jeffreyfleming4016]

All good, and no need to apologize. Trust me, I’m not a huge fan of Canon, but I’m surprised that Canon has a 4k60 422 10bit solution at such a low price point. You can believe when I say that I do understand your frustration with these camera manufacturers as they have disappointed the buying public so many times…

[@carldaniel3155]

Loving the new R8... but lenses have slow apertures on the affordable lenses! The nice lenses cost over £1000 wow. I'd switch from Fuji xt3... but not enough lens choice just yet.

[@dantedimaano9556]

great review Dan. Even with its small shortcomings I think I can live with it. Thanx

[@DavidJones-iq8hp]

Great review,,,, Deal breaker if at this point will not take 3rd party lens....C'mon Canon

[@arbutusadventures1]

has anyone tried the r8 with the EF adapter? and has anyone come across what the slowest f stop is that AF will work in? ie. an f11 prime telephoto.

[@wakandascottyb903]

Very nice camera for its price. I have the Eos R but I don’t think I’m upgrading. Gonna invest in lenses

[@learningcameras]

Video is where the upgrade is absolutely worth it. For photos only, it definitely has some advantages with the new autofocus upgrades but the EOS R has a better body, bigger battery faster frame rates, and a few other things so I wouldn't be rushing to upgrade for photos alone

[@hawkboy000]

@@learningcameras I’m thinking of going from the R to the R6 as I’m mainly focusing on shooting video now

[@learningcameras]

@@hawkboy000 If you're shooting video, get the R6II...it's a MASSIVE update from the original EOS R and is worth the upgrade from the original R6

[@LoverOfTech]

As a Sony user with 4 Full Frame Bodies being A7S3, 2x A7iv and A7C, Canon are seriously doing an amazing job and if not for how expensive the RF mount lenses and lack of 3rd support, I would consider it. Sony from the jump priced the A7iv to high and the lack of full frame 4K 60 even if it was line skipped or pixel binned is a miss for me and the fact it can still overheat in certain non extreme situations leave me also too confident in the camera. Excellent hands on video Dan

[@77dris]

I got the R6 II and I got EF lenses and it's insanely good. Unlike Sony/Nikon/Panasonic the Canon adapted system works with 0 loss in performance. In fact, the EF lenses adapted to mirrorless work just as well - in some cases better - than the native RF glass. My Sigma Art 50 1.4 focuses 2x faster than the RF 50 1.2 and it cost me 1/3 the price and even with the adapter, it's smaller than the RF lens. The amount of lenses and third party options for the EF line is insane and the prices are less than native third party options for Sony.

[@pal54321]

R8 shutter is damn loud.

[@learningcameras]

@@pal54321 It is absolutely loud compared to the R6II. Definitely not the same high end shutter mechanism

[@learningcameras]

Completely agree!

[@vshvarts]

Probably the camera to replace my canon 200d. The only thing I need is 4k60 no crop and here it is for reasonable amount of money

[@Vishumanuಕನ್ನಡ]

Is this battery drain easily? Is this good for continues video recording??

[@learningcameras]

It's a pretty small battery so it will drain quickly...that said they are so small, you could throw 3 in your pocket like candy and never notice so unless you need 1hr+ of continuous recording, it might not be a big issue

[@kenduejones]

Battery grip

[@hunglemed]

gonna buy this, R8 will sell like hot cake

[@McarthurBeard]

I been doing photography and videography since 2010 on and off buying and selling gear I fell in the trap of wanting the latest and best gear now I’m bout to hop back into it and I don’t care about all the extra stuff carrying around all the light equipment’s and camera gear. I just want a r8 with a simple 50mm 1.8 and I only want to shoot natural light I just want a more simple life

[@keithwiebe1787]

I just got my R8 and put on my nift fifty 1.8. The problem with that lens is the noisy autofocus motor. Remember, to get stabilization one needs to go electronic and than it will crop somewhat. I passed on the 200 dollar 24-50 but in reality for video work it might be ok since it has an stm auto focus motor and built in image stabilization. Just not for stills.

[@garethjones5068]

I have been shooting professionally on my RP for 2 years & have always seen the R6 as the next natural upgrade for me, but the R8 gives me an interesting alternative upgrade option. I’m starting shooting weddings now, so the older AF system on the RP is a concern for me, the low light & the poor dynamic range of it is also becoming more apparent now too

[@Jesse-pp4te]

Does shooting weddings on a single sd slot scare you? Corrupt cards freak me tf out for important shoots, hence why I'm getting an R6Mii. This R8 is the best B cam or travel cam

[@garethjones5068]

@@Jesse-pp4te I have to admit it was freaking me out too yes, the last wedding I shot I hired an R6 as primary body with my RP as second body & I felt much more comfortable having 2 SD slots in the R6

[@olivertrees]

@@Jesse-pp4te i'd imagine it's unbelievably detrimental if it were to happen, but it's never happened to me in years.

[@lifeinnb]

@garethjones5068 R7 might be your best bet. its like an R8, but with 2 sd slots, a little less low light performance from what i'm reading(i might be wrong) and nearly identical price

[@AoyagiAichou]

The camera may be small, but good grief those lenses look massive on it.

[@learningcameras]

Haha... I mean Canon definitely has smaller lenses than I used but the mount itself is big so all of them have a pretty big diameter

[@StefanMischook]

Can you power this camera via USB C for longer zooms calls … as an example.

[@learningcameras]

Absolutely

[@LukasFendek]

Helpful review ,,,, I decided now upgrade from my old Canon 6D to this R8

[@stoatsngroatsuk5012]

Hi Lucas, how are you getting on with the R8 - I use a 6d currently and wonder if this might be my next step!

[@angeloplayforone]

Great video, with good tips and useful information that can help everyone. Good point you made about Canon cripple the video part in their cameras. I left them due to this behavior. Panasonic and Sony are putting the gun at the head of Canon to not cripple at video spec. One of the best or maybe the best review of this camera.

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that!

[@JansonHunter]

You can move the focus point with the touch screen when your looking through the viewfinder

[@jaymills1720]

Dan! Great review! I’m checking out the FX30 , R7, and R8. Would love to make educational videos around 5-10 minutes in edited length as well as travel videos and sport videos. Color/image quality and working properly is the top importance. Any ranking or preference?

[@learningcameras]

So all of those cameras can handle what you need but I'd say if you are focusing on video, the FX30 would be the best. It's really purpose built to do that where the R8 and R7 focus a bit more on photography

[@jaymills1720]

@@learningcameras and now a6700!

[@learningcameras]

@@jaymills1720 Yep! I've actually had it for the past 2 weeks but still editing the full review! Should be out later this week

[@jaymills1720]

@@learningcameras haha so let me be the first annoying guy to ask. A6700 or r8

[@justesmond]

Dan, as always... great review. As I've said before... I can always trust that you will do a thorough job on your review and give us the straight scoop. Despite your review, I remain disappointed with the R8 and what it could have been. The compromises that Canon made to slot this camera in (battery, Ibis, and mechanical shutter) are just such odd decisions. Why not put a decent battery in there? I was hoping the R8 would have been the EOS R mk ii and not the RP mk (a camera that my wife has and that I hate). Canon has me seriously scratching my head sometimes.

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that! So, if you think of this as an upgraded RP (which is what I think it is), I think Canon did a great job. If you think of this as an EOS R mk II, it's definitely missing a LOT. 2 things, 1 I think Canon marketing made a horrible decision by comparing it to the EOS R and positioning this as a replacement in the product line since the R8 is NOTHING like the EOS R. #2, the EOS R was like $2200 when it first came out so WAY above the R8 price. The only reason the EOS R is priced so low is that Canon kept it on the market too long and the R didn't age well since Canon crippled it too much. So I think what you're looking for is an EOS R replacement or an actual higher end camera than the RP...not just a mark II which is why this feels underwhelming...and for now, the only camera Canon has that achieves that is the R6II.

[@justesmond]

@@learningcameras Yes. You’re right on the money. I expected more and was underwhelmed. I have an R5 and would love a photo forward camera to pair with the R5 for weddings. I had an R6, but sold it looking for another solution. I would happily pay $2000-$2200 for a photo forward camera that wasn’t limited like Canon seems to limit cameras that are not it’s top tier offerings. I do agree with you that if the R8 is thought as a replacement for the RP then it probably exceeds expectations.

[@The_Idea_of_Dream_Vision]

Get the r6 and get those features

[@compucorder64]

For video work, in this price range, Panasonic are bringing in PDAF and 6k. And Canon are leaving out IBIS. And in this lower price range, Panasonic's lenses are better value, which will cancels out the $500 price difference, when you buy a couple of lenses. For the great sensor and image quality, it's amazing value for people who prioritise still photography. But I'd never pick it over the S5II as a budget video powerhouse. Seems like Canon's business model is to draw people in with great value, but ultimately severely limited budget bodies (no IBIS), and then recoup on the lenses, and the upgrade path to the R6ii. And then moderately affordable Sony' have great lens choices, but either make cameras that are a weak for stills (FX30), but great for video. Or great for stills and a poor choice for video (nastily overheating A7IVs).

[@learningcameras]

I don't disagree with you. The S5II is an extremely good value as well and for people mainly shooting video, I do think the FX30 or S5II would be worth it. But I don't think that's the market Canon is aiming for with this one...this is more the person looking for a quality travel camera or stepping up from a T7i or other super entry level camera into something with better quality when an R6II is out of the price range. This is more of a Sony A7c competitor and it blows that camera away at a lower cost. As much as I want features like IBIS on the R8, I can't think of any other sub $1500 full frame camera that launched with IBIS and thankfully they seem to be done crippling their cameras with software limitations. IBIS is probably costly hardware so it's a more understandable omission and digital stabilization works, it can just look more artificial with moving subjects and Canon does have stabilized lenses for photographers.

[@peterra2532]

for me who does wedding video, mini-docs, low budget music videos etc…even if the lumix s5ii is a better video camera, I won't be afraid to use the r8 as a main camera instead from s5ii. In the sense that the essential is here: 4k 422 10-bit with sufficient dynamic range. The difference between 6k and 4k HQ (oversampled from 6k) is not big. The r8 does not have IBIS but a large number of RF and EF lenses are stabilized, so you will have a similar result as a stabilized camera + unstabilized lens. So an r8 + 24-70 stabilized = s5ii + 24-70 unstabilized. For the price difference, I can therefore have the r8 + a stabilized and macro 35mm f1.8, with this combo I am already ready to film a wedding alone (with 35mm you can also use as 50mm in crop- mod) Another advantage, if you do multicam recording, with 2x r8, you save $1000, and 3x r8s you save $1500. And finally if later you upgrade, it will make a good cam B for an r5c or c70

[@compucorder64]

@@peterra2532definitely. I think Slanted Lens, and even Peter McKinnon are right to point out that all these new generation of cameras do the job extremely well. In the wider context, in the right hands any will do similarly great work. And so much comes down to personal preference. And part of that is what line you want to invest in, lens, future upgrade path, interests and career goals. The biggest headache would be switching from one line to another, having to sell a whole suite of lenses and accessories

[@KaelKnox]

R8 can go to 8k shutter speed on electronic shutter so it isn't limited to 4k. Great review

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! True...but keep in mind this isn't a stacked cmos sensor so in electronic shutter you can see rolling shutter or get banding with some artificial lighting

[@ForrestWest]

Best camera you can get for $1,500? Not compared to the R7 for my needs shooting birds, wildlife and macro! I'll take 33 megapixels, ibis, dual memory cards and a bigger battery and bigger camera body and the 1.6x aps-c crop factor.

[@xkben90]

He’s primarily a videographer, so I’m assuming he meant for video.

[@learningcameras]

I think I said "full frame". There are definitely solid apsc cameras like the R7 and fuji has a bunch

[@marcuscaruana6772]

Im looking at both tbh. I shoot birds and macro. Full frame has its advantages especially on ISO re shooting birds. Yes with crop you will have more reach and with R7 you may have more MP but if you're using 600mm on R8 you have both reach and most probably better image quality. Presently I use 5DM4 (great camera) which is a keeper and I really got stuck with the choice between R8 and R7.

[@mostlymessingabout]

There is no mechanical shutter...

[@learningcameras]

The 2nd curtain is mechanical... You can hear it in my burst tests... It's actually pretty loud. All mirrorless cameras default to electronic first curtain which is what the R8 has

[@lifeinnb]

Hey Dan, thanks for the review. I'm trying to decide between the R7 and the R8. I want to do 2 things... low light photos/vids and dog action shots (aka running, fetching, catching) Will the electronic only shutter be an issue on dog leg movements? (aka would i get rolling shutter since it isnt mechanical?) or do dog legs not move fast enough? haha

[@learningcameras]

Hey! Sorry for the late reply. So the R8 has a first curtain mechanical shutter so you won't really have a problem. In low light you might get more flicker/banding from artificial light but this would be rare and with a mechanical first curtain, you shouldn't see any rolling shutter. It's not a fully electronic shutter

[@JAMES.B1970]

I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgraded from the RP? TIA

[@learningcameras]

It would be an upgrade although for photos alone, it would be a modest one. You'll get slightly better image quality and improved autofocus mostly. If you want to shoot video, that's where the R8 is VASTLY improved from the RP.

[@bobbyrossfella3248]

The biggest issue for most would be battery. Not everyone is gonna utilize IBIS anyway. For people who need super smooth...you get a gimbal. The low cost can allow you to buy plenty of batteries to carry around if juice is a concern. As for the sd card slots.....do you really need 2? If so, then buy another camera I suppose. Otherwise, this is a very powerful camera for an incredible price point.

[@learningcameras]

On the plus side, the batteries are smaller, lighter, and cheaper so even though they don't last as long, it's pretty easy to buy and carry a few spares. I need dual card slots for a variety of reasons...I'm often shooting with a 2nd shooter so having the ability to have my card and their cards shooting at the same time is helpful so after the shoot we don't need to transfer files, I'm also big on shooting dual cards for things like weddings that can't be reshot, it's great when we need fast edits and I can just hand off 1 card to an editor mid shoot to start editing while I keep shooting on the same card, and it also makes a great holder for a spare card in that 2nd slot even when I'm only shooting to a single card. But obviously most none pro shooters wouldn't need that.

[@chingymofo1]

Canon is killing it with the body lineup, there's a camera for any and every user and the quality and ergonomics are imo top of the game, unless we are talking about Sony's low light capabilities, they're doing gods work in that field. It's just so hard for me to give Canon number 1 spot with how they are about 3rd party lenses, everything about Canon is amazing but if they want to make insane low cost cameras they have to balance it out with allowing 3rd party lenses so the new photographers are much more driven to buy Canon.

[@learningcameras]

I agree... When people ask me for camera kit recommendations it's harder for me to recommend Canon because of the cost and limited variety of lens options for a complete kit

[@colintraveller]

@@learningcameras Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh the IRONY .. As yer more than happy to upsell it . and you even said it was yer fav ..

[@learningcameras]

@@colintraveller It is my "favorite full frame camera for $1500"... and if you watch my video right before the conclusion I literally say, my only reservation "has nothing to do with the camera" but the problem is lenses...and then I literally went in to an entire rant about 3rd party lenses which I also did in the 6DII review and will probably continue doing until they allow them. Absolutely no irony if you actually watch the entire video

[@dennishaggerty8155]

How is the low light performance? Would this camera work well for astrophotography? I'm thinking mostly Milky Way shots and the occasional deep space object like the Orion nebula? I'm using a Canon 90D now and would like to move to a full frame camera.

[@DallasJohnson-tx1ht]

Nice!!! Love this.. so quick question Dan.. I'm used to Sony and I know Sony does extremely well with autofocus and tracking. I use my camera mostly for my Kids sports... basketball, running so sounds like this camera is great for sports.. so my question is.. would you go with this over say the sony A7? (for price point I say yes) and 2nd.. which lens would you recommend for sports photography if i am wanting a decent reach in artificial light?

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! So for what you are shooting, I'd either go with the R8 or if you want to use Sony, you could use the A7III which has a great AF system (though not quite as advanced as the R8). But if you shoot video and photo, the only Sony camera that comes close to matching the R8 is the A7IV which is vastly more expensive. Lenses are where the Canon R8 falls short...the only decently priced option is the 100-400: bhpho.to/3JRoclU but that's not the best aperture for low light. Thankfully the R8 is full frame with solid low light performance but with Sony you can get Tamron or Sigma lenses with wide apertures for a decent price.

[@bngr_bngr]

I would buy a used Canon EF 70-200/2.8 II or III. Canon claims those lens are fully compatible with current R cameras. Depending with the light conditions you might get away with a 4.0 zoom. Any sport taking place outside, use at least a 300mm.

[@ptvfr800]

Good review ,Thanks Dan. I have just added an R8 to go alongside my 90D and I am very impressed with the focusing success I am getting, I do find the number of boxes jumping around in the viewfinder a little disconcerting, what is the best way to reduce the amount of ‘Junk’ visible in the viewfinder?

[@MarillMau5]

This camera and lens is $3k 😊

[@liammcginty23]

I wish photography and videography wasn't expensive

[@kangleipak_official_yt]

I have a question right now I’m planning to buy a gimbal for my canon eos r8 so will DJI RS3 Will work perfectly fine with R8?? Is there any connection issue? Will it work with bluetooth??

[@learningcameras]

I'm almost positive bluetooth will work perfectly but you might need to double check with DJI on that compatibility. I honestly rarely connect my camera to my gimbal ...connecting just allows you to use the gimbal to control the camera record start/stop and a few other things but isn't needed for stabilization

[@borlach321]

Thanks for this. By the way, have you seen a new Nikon camera since....I dunno...4 B.C.? Are they still making cameras?

[@learningcameras]

Hahaha, seriously! I mean, technically the Z9 but that's so high end and for some reason they still barely have stock. They definitely need some big releases with absolutely no holding back to stay relevant

[@timothygoetz9742]

Thanks for the video. Long time 70D user here and I was "this close" to upgrading to an R. Since its now $400 cheaper should I still buy it or wait for the R8??

[@learningcameras]

So the R is a deal considering it's initial starting price but it was a very crippled camera so it's tough for me to recommend in 2023 and definitely don't get it if you shoot video at all. The R8 is probably a better choice in general though especially since you are coming from a 70D and the R8 has all the latest mirrorless upgrades

[@StephenStanforth]

Really looking to go with this as my first full-frame camera. I have never had a Canon before, coming from the Nikon 7200 I have had for many many many years. What kind of memory card is good for this one? Better to go more space since it only can take one card or go smaller and use multiple cards?

[@learningcameras]

Awesome! So this would be my choice for a less expensive card: amzn.to/3L6dg4u and if you can afford it, these cards are a bit faster if you are shooting high speeds or 4k60 video: amzn.to/3mvoc1c

[@legeshwaranpandian8050]

Sony a7c or canon r8 which one is best ...???

[@learningcameras]

The Canon R8 is better in almost every way...and it's on a massive sale: bhpho.to/4db8n4K

[@BoReynolds]

DAN.......IF I ONLY SHOOT VIDEO.........would you go with the R7? or R8? I only ask because IBIS is important to me. IF YOU were buying, would you go Sony FX 30? Thanks. Bo

[@learningcameras]

If you only shoot video, I'd be more likely to get the FX30 and sacrifice full frame for some big video features

[@BoReynolds]

@@learningcameras Thank you buddy! I truly appreciate the response.

[@peterra2532]

Lumix s5ii or s5iix would be a better choice

[@77dris]

Canon doesn't use BSI sensors but they are still outclassing the Sony BSI sensors. The R6 II has lower noise, better dynamic range and much faster sensor speeds than the BSI A7IV. Same with the R5 vs the A7RIV/V.

[@ironsharpensiron2895]

Do you work for Cannon? All your comments are against Sony Lol

[@77dris]

@@ironsharpensiron2895 Nope, I've shot Canon for 20 years, tried other brands, never liked them and always stay with Canon. I wish I could get paid by Canon.

[@G3ekbox]

No IBIS - No Wobble???

[@pianofinger]

I would love to have this camera as a 3rd option for teaching. I currently use the R5 and R6ii and i hate the thought of handing students my expensive tools.😅

[@teddyabraham3289]

Great video brother. Subscribed...How about the rolling shutter in this camera? I love to shoot action shots (wildlife & sports)

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that! Rolling shutter is actually very well controlled in this. Probably one of the best you will find in any camera over 24mp (lower megapixels usually helps read speeds). It's still there but almost every camera that has better rolling shutter uses a super expensive stacked CMOS sensor, or has a very low megapixel count like the Sony A7SIII

[@tedsclickz2535]

@@learningcameras Thank you for the detailed reply. I am in a confusion to pick which camera - R7 or R8. I am concentrating only on stills. Not into video. Can you suggest which one is best for me? Or any other brand models? Awaiting for your reply

[@learningcameras]

@@tedsclickz2535 For stills, rolling shutter isn't an issue in mechanical shutter which is what the cameras use by default. Rolling shutter is mostly an issue with video or when using electronic shutter which is optional, but allows faster frame rates on some cameras. For stills at $1500, the R8 would probably be the camera to get. Full frame has a quality advantage and IBIS is not going to help for sports/wildlife since you will already be using fast shutter speeds. So unless you need the hardware upgrades of the R7 like dual card slots, more controls, and a better screen/viewfinder, the R8 is what I'd get. My favorite R8 gear is in the video description!

[@NoRegret08]

Even a cheap R10 has a joystick and this one does not! This is unacceptable , there is room for it. I use viewfinder 95% of the time for stills, so no joystick no buy.

[@aarillerajoille2388]

Voigtländer 50 1.0 for Canon RF has electronic contacts! Maybe soon coming more these 3rd party lenses with electronic contacts. Good time to wait cheaper lenses:) I am still ef -system user but strongly thinking should I switch to rf already myself.

[@gerardferry3958]

prefer the r7 the speed booster gives me some very fast cheap glass

[@Spendalife777]

Hi, and thank you for your review! For $300 more for a new R6 (version 1) would you take that over the R8? Looking for a true hybrid camera to take on trips. FYI, I have Ronin SC I take with me on trips as well. I had a dedicated 5D iii for photos and A6400 for videos, but sold them to trade up for hybrid 😊

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! So the main advantage of the R6 is hardware...things like more controls, better build, dual cards, ibis...things like that. Since you sold the other cameras and are used to cameras like the 5D, I think you might want some of those hardware features so the R6 might be a decent step up from the R8 for you

[@Spendalife777]

Thanks so much for your feedback- that’s what I was thinking too!

[@mbristudio4320]

Dear DAN WATSON I HAVE ALREADY CANON M50 MARK II CAMERA IM USING FOR REAL ESTATE VIDEOGRAPHY I JUST ONE ADVICE PLEASE TELL ME THAT CAMERA ARE BETTER FOR REAL ESTATE VIDEOGRAPHY ? MY SHOOTING LENS LIST ( CANON 10-18MM F4.5 ) ( CANON 50MM F1.8) PLEASE ADVICE ME THAT CAMREA BETTER FOR REAL ESTATE VIDEOGRAPHY

[@learningcameras]

Keep in mind that a new camera will mean updating your lenses which will not be cheap. A full frame camera like the Canon R8 would be the way to go but you will also need this lens bhpho.to/41pxhZP which is pretty expensive so keep that in mind before upgrading

[@nienormalnyVLOG]

Great Video :) I’m just wondering if c1-c2 buttons are customizable for video as well ?

[@learningcameras]

I thought they were but I'll have to double check when I get the camera

[@jamesscharnitz7640]

I’m sure you are right about keeping the first curtain electronic fps slower. It really is a shame but I understand why they did it to protect the R6II sales

[@PWingert1966]

I am upgrading from an Sl1 from 20015. I am debating between an R8 and an R7. They are at the same price point. The IBIS might be a deciding point as will the mechanical shutter on the R7.

[@learningcameras]

Technically the R7 is a higher end body but getting a full frame sensor for the same price is tempting, especially since Canon doesn't have any good APSC lenses so you'll probably be getting full frame lenses anyway

[@marcuscaruana6772]

Its going to be my decision too. I am full of 3rd party lenses starting from Sigma Art to Tamron 150-600 G2. They all pair up nicely with my 5DM4 and M3. Honestly Im feeling that they will do the job better on the R8 than the R7. Will wait and read for more advice. Image quality on R8 looks like a tat better with evident nicer dynamic range. IBIS is good but not a deal breaker in my opinion as it is mostly on every lens and Im more into stills. Card slots and battery are far better on R7 but in the end we buy cameras for great photos not battery life and storage options. We can improvise on the latter by buying more batteries or a grip if it ll be available.

[@25kbanana]

I’ve been wracking my brain over which camera to buy. Anyone wanna help me decide between the R7, R8, and R10

[@responsibleliving6071]

Hello sir, I am confused between two cameras , canon R8 and Sony a 7iii. I am from india and we are having a canon sale I which I can get R8 for Rs. 1 lakh , whereas 7iii is available for Rs.1.24 lakh. I am basically hobbiest and like to take a few portraits and some videos. My plan for lenses is 35 mm f1.8 and 85 mm f1.8. Which do you think would be best camera for me in every respect.l? Thank you, Ys

[@cody_mchardy]

I feel called out when you being up the compact being the draw.

[@learningcameras]

haha

[@Unfilterd]

Great video! As far as 4K 60 goes, without IBIS, so always shooting with stabilizer; Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 4K or the Canon R8? Or rather spend that extra money and get the Sony a7iv?

[@learningcameras]

I can still shoot handheld if I'm super careful or using a stabilized lens. Obviously I made this video using the R8. If you're a videographer mainly, the Panasonic S5II is a great camera over the black magic. The R8 is extremely capable but don't forget it's created for more of that entry level or travel friendly market who doesn't want to compromise on quality

[@dilettante-z6n]

IBIS is fine, in some cases (35-85 mm, maybe 24) but no wider or longer. Anything longer doesn't work as effectively with IBIS, and anything wider will wobble in corners. But the places where the IBIS camera is not allowed to enter are dance clubs, noisy industrial workshops, shooting passing trains - everything where there are strong acoustic vibrations. Here you can't shoot anything good with IBIS camera.

[@austincoldiron]

Great video and very helpful. Would love to see another video of your auto focus settings.

[@deb8183]

Packed with so much info here. Thank you.

[@Dmitrii_88]

No maaan . Its new EOS R !!! Ever on oficial site of Canon its second name is Rii .

[@MichaelFlowers-kx8en]

Great video. I had my mind made up on an RP with a 24-105 f4 and the 100-400 Zoom to take on a trip to Alaska the first of June then Canon announced the R8 so I preordered it. I know the ship date is mid April but I'm told Canon is known to have missed ship dates in the past. If I don't get this camera by mid May how disappointed should I be if I have to go with the RP? This will be the first camera I have owned with video.

[@learningcameras]

So if you are shooting video, the R8 would be a massive update. If it doesn't arrive in time you could always rent a Canon R7...gives you even a few more features than the R8 and the fact that it's an APSC crop instead of full frame is probably helpful in Alaska because it will give you extra reach from your lenses. Or you can rent the R6II. If it's just for a week or two, the rental cost shouldn't be too bad. For photos, the RP is fine but video on the newer cameras will definitely look better.

[@dilettante-z6n]

In 4k 60 fps the camera writes 15-20 minutes at 22 - 25 Celsius. I had to buy a third party Ulanzi cooler, a Canon RP battery grip and a fast memory card to fix the heat at that temperature. But if the temp is 30+, even in that set-up the camera will shut down, I think after half an hour.

[@GLENNMPHOTOGRAPHY]

I wanted to buy this R8 but Im really curious with the effect of its first curtain / electronic shutter in strobe photography. No one demonstrate this in youtube. Does it matter if I use F1.4/1.8 + 1/8000 shutterspeed using strobe?

[@MrTmiket0007]

Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍👌

[@dpestlin1]

Thanks! How are the colors on this camera for video? Are they the same as the Canon R5 out of camera?

[@learningcameras]

Yep, same colors as an R5

[@dpestlin1]

@@learningcameras thanks!

[@fotomaton7852]

So no overheating up to 4K30p? That's good news. I guess battery life is going to be the main concern. How long can you shoot 4K24p with one charge? I do hear it supports USB-C charging so that's cool if you're using tripod or figure out some kind of rig for handheld.

[@pal54321]

is that by mains though or just power bank?

[@learningcameras]

When I get it in I'll do formal tests and test using USB C but I doubt you'll get much more than an hour on a single battery with oversampled 4k

[@77dris]

Dan! I would LOVE to see a video about how you dial in your R6 II and R8 autofocus for video! Btw, love your b-roll... it's always the best out of the series when you are out with other KZbinrs.

[@Ramage7070]

100% on the b-roll!!!

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that! I'll add that to the list of topics to cover

[@carlosmoctezuma3977]

If the Canon R8 had a bigger battery that we see for the Canon R5 and R6, I'd buy the camera in a heartbeat. No ibis, no rotary dial, no joystick and one card slot I can get passed.

[@colintraveller]

I wonder how many folks mistake you for Peter Jackson Also your reading off a board with Notes written ....on it ..

[@learningcameras]

lol. I do often have notes...and??? It's a 16 minute video, I probably have a few talking points I want to make sure I hit perfectly lol

[@workingwiththelight3119]

In UK it costs £1700 this is not inexpensive especially if you consider the price of f2.8 lenses 24-70 £2300! Now you get £4000 gear! That is 🚫 cheap!

[@Sorennn94]

Probably the best camera we've seen in that price range! Can't wait to get it 🙌

[@ghas4151]

I’d personally take something like the X-T5 due to missing so many basic features such as IBIS and dual card slots and a plastic body. It shows what you can get away with due to cracking the AF algorithm. Without it is a really poor camera compared to the competition.

[@Sorennn94]

@@ghas4151 I agree that the xt5 is a beautiful and capable camera...but the R8 has a lighter compact body without sacrifing the weather sealing or the deep grip.I only wish it would have a joystic also that would be great addition to the package

[@bngr_bngr]

@@ghas4151the R8 is full frame.

[@kenjiyamamoto423]

@@ghas4151 xt5??? I WILL NEVER EVER USED A CROP SENSOR CAMERA,. HAHAHAHA in full frame,. you just need a cheap lense 50mm 1.8 is enough deph of field,. in crop,. you need atleast 33mm 1.4 just to match 50mm 1.8 depth of field,. but when you used 50mm 1.2 or 1.4 in fullframe you can't never match that in crop sensor Fuji,. because theres no such lense like 33mm 0.8 just to match 50mm 1.2 or 1.4 Crop sensor is a waste of money,. crop sensor are for those broke photographers,.

[@craigcarlson4022]

Dan, when i used the R model, i found the files’ resolution (jpeg and raw) soft. I find my r6 files show better, finer detail even though it has fewer pixels. All this probably due to the nature of the anti aliasing filters Canon applies. Heck, my apsc Nikon Z50 shows better detail then the Canon R. So when reviewing can you share your observations on the files resolution, independent of mp numbers?

[@learningcameras]

Absolutely, AA filters play a role as does the quality of the sensor. Unfortunately the EOS R sensor was not the most amazing either. The R6 is the latest gen of sensor from Canon and it does have some improvements. Not massive ones but enough to notice. Lenses and accurate autofocus also make a big difference so higher resolution sensors so sometimes the reason higher megapixels don't always look as good is because the focus is ever so slightly off or the lens can't resolve that many pixels. That's why higher resolution isn't always that big of a deal depending on the sensor quality, subject, camera settings, lens, and viewing size

[@craigcarlson4022]

@@learningcameras Dan, Thanks appreciate hearing your experience on all that. Craig

[@hugomouteira7015]

You promised to make more videos about this camera. 6 months passed and no new video about the R8.... 😢

[@blaspayri]

8:59 Autofocus - many reviews mention that AF is very good, but all the footage I have seem makes me doubt as one can see usually struggling to keep focus and systematically loosing focus on an easy target in other reviews or videos made with the R8 .... it would be nice to have a video that either uses the AF in a reliable manner (as you mention that it is highly configurable), or that states that it is actually unreliable

[@learningcameras]

So I don't have the R8 anymore but I use the R6II daily which basically has an identical AF system and I use autofocus constantly with amazing results, especially with people

[@kifley19]

Canon cripple hammer. The S5 was $1400 with the 85mm 1.8 like a month ago and the Nikon Z6II was $1700 a month ago as well.

[@vladimirtalijan]

So you're saying a cheap car is the same as an expensive one, it's just cheaper for no reason? :) There is a reason for everything, including Canon being the most expensive, you just need to understand and learn cameras and stop comparing spec sheets.

[@learningcameras]

That's called a sale...I'm sure it will happen to the R8 too in a few years lol. Those cameras obviously don't have the newest features either since they are old cameras so they lack the AF advancements and full frame 4k60 for starters

[@kifley19]

@@learningcameras this camera has no ibis and 1 card slot. I know Canon is paying you but be objective for once.

[@learningcameras]

@@kifley19 I WISH I got paid for this lol. The closest camera to this is the Sony A7C which was also a single card slot and that was $2000 when it came out. Not sure what other compact camera you're comparing this to. Obviously Canon has the R6 and R6II for people (like me) who want IBIS and dual cards. Sure, I'd take IBIS and dual card slots but at the price, I wouldn't call that crippling. I actually think the 6fps in mechanical is a little slow though. Personally I don't need more but that seems more like a crippled feature

[@77dris]

The S5 can't autofocus... who wants it! LOL. And the 4k is cropped and crippled with no 4K 60 full frame let alone oversampled. The lens selection is also terrible.

[@StefanMischook]

How is the editing of the video files? Do you still need an m1?

[@learningcameras]

There is still an issue with older processors if you are shooting in Clog3 or HLG because then the files are h.265 422 which older processors didn't like. Canon doesn't allow you to chose 420 10bit like Sony does or h.264. The M1 was the first to edit those files decently but I haven't tried the latest Intel ones

[@StefanMischook]

@@learningcameras Thanks. So with an M1, the files will be easy to edit?

[@learningcameras]

The M1 or M2 processors can edit these files without needing to use proxies

[@StefanMischook]

@@learningcamerasthanks!

[@AtaBoraBasar]

Canon R8's battery is a disappointment.

[@77dris]

Oh? Have you tried it? I mean, the camera is tiny and cheap with features of the much more expensive R6 II. If you need a better battery get the R6 II (it has the best battery life of any mirrorless outside of the huge R3 and z9) and has IBIS but costs a few more dollars. This is what is meant by "price points".

[@AtaBoraBasar]

@@77dris Dude even the crop factor R7 has an LP-E6NH battery. What cost are you talking about? Manufacturers have started to go crazy.

[@learningcameras]

It's based on the size/weight though. For them to use the E6 battery, the camera would have to be larger to keep the weight balanced and would be significantly heavier. It's a trade off for sure but it makes sense a battery would need to be smaller in a smaller camera. Also it might need to be more expensive. Cameras like the Sony A7C cost $2000 when they were announced and inflation would put that closer to $2200+ these days!

[@AtaBoraBasar]

@@learningcameras The reason why I criticize the Canon R8 battery is actually this; Those who compare it to Canon Rp should see this. While the Canon RP can take an average of 250 shots, roughly 3 years later, a similar camera (R8) uses the same battery and has a similar number of shots. Also, who cares if the camera is a few grams light? The end user is now more conscious and questioning.

[@shazstudioproduction]

No body telling about 120fps autofocus is working or not lolllllllll.

[@mikebanks4796]

No IBIS? So it should be better than Sony IBIS….😂🤣👌

[@ehsaanqadri1]

Great work man

[@learningcameras]

Appreciate that!

[@cleanphreak5103]

Hands on review "I actually don't have the camera."

[@learningcameras]

I didn't have the camera while recording the talking portion but I spent several days shooing thousands of pictures and the entire video! Only the talking portion was shot without the camera in my hand but Canon gave me the camera for 3-4 days to play with and I shot with it for literally 10hrs per day!

[@Steffenbrinkhaus]

Thanks for the cool video. I am doubting enormously. I started as a photographer two years ago. I now have my own photo studio. I mostly shoot portraits and fine art. I also occasionally shoot videos for companies. I have been using an a7ii on loan for the past few years. Now I want to buy my camera myself. I have a huge doubt between the R8 or R6 (not the markii) and can't make a choice after all those videos on KZbin.

[@AustinWestbro]

“You recording video?” “Nah I’m taking pictures at 40 fps”

[@learningcameras]

haha

[@SCULPTURAMAplus]

I know this is a niche market but this camera will quite possibly be the new standard for stop motion and time lapse. Build quality doesn’t matter in the same way for a static, tethered, mounted camera always indoors and always powered externally. There’s a canon firmware update that doubles the monitor output over usb to software like Dragonframe. All that really matters is image quality.

[@sethiphotography]

Hey Dan, is the 40 fps high speed burst in 14 bit raw?

[@learningcameras]

Pretty sure it drops to 12bit but still RAW and this will be electronic shutter so you might see rolling shutter with fast moving action

[@ii-yk3vc]

music, models, video everything is fine

[@rodtheer8141]

Great review! Would really like to see your next vid be your long term review R6 ii; especially since you said you have been shooting nonstop with it 😎

[@learningcameras]

Thanks! Working on it now

[@rodtheer8141]

@@learningcameras Excellent 😎

[@davidscameras]

Hey bro! Great video! You mentioned no record limits in video. Is that true with this model for all resolutions? On B&H they listed it has a 30min record limit. I'd consider picking one of these up as a podcast camera if it doesn't have a record limit! Thanks Dan! Love ya man!

[@MeilikPepper]

30min rec limit in 4K 60p

[@learningcameras]

Yeah, record limit is 4k60 only and I never record long format 4k60

[@renashbellrn]

maybe after a couple of months and the hype is over, the review gonna be honest.

[@learningcameras]

The problem isn't the camera, the problem is Canon marketing making this seem like an eos R replacement when that camera was $2200. If they had called this an RPII (what it is), everyone would be pretty happy. It's a massive upgrade from the RP and only $200 more than the RP launch price which is essentially the same after you factor in the crazy inflation. Compared to the Sony A7c, this is also better and way less $ than that camera was announced at. Sure, I wish it had IBIS but even without it, it's a really good RP upgrade

[@karlsma7245]

Without IBIS and only one card slot, means this camera isn't for me

[@SuperNova-Steve]

Cosina (Voigtlander) make an RF 50mm f1. Canon will slowly open up I would say.

[@photograffyc2139]

Is this camera better than the 1dx mark ii ? I wanted to buy a used 1dx mark ii for photo and video to cover weddings and other events. I'm on the fence on these 2 cameras. I would really appreciate your professional opinion. Thanks.

[@cynthiaes1000]

Would this camera be good for in studio photography? I use my ad200 pro with canon m50 I do 90s glamour shots but my photos seem soft so I want to upgrade.