Bad r/Legaladvice - My Neighbor’s Bees are STEALING My Pollen // LegalEagle

[@LegalEagle]

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[@dorvaga14]

If you're going to do tree law I recommend rslash video He's covered a couple different cases of tree law in some of his videos. I'd love to watch an actual lawyer though discuss tree law because there's millions of dollars to be made in tree law

[@marcusandreopoulos3114]

www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/comments/elyfmz/fine_for_not_shovel_the_snow/ I've always wondered if it's an applicable law to force a homeowner or business to shovel snow, even more so in an injury claim. I have a novice law student co-worker who has told me that tort law protects an owner from having to shovel, claiming that if you shovel and salt and someone slips and gets injured it's now your fault. If you don't shovel and salt, it's an act of God and you are in the clear... I'd love to hear what would actually happen in a lawsuit that would address both actions and which is more realistic in a property owner's defense.

[@marcusandreopoulos3114]

www.reddit.com/r/fuckHOA/comments/aje2el/hoa_wont_put_salt_on_parking_lot_because_they_say/

[@QuimBeeLivingstone]

I would love to see your take on the first lawsuit in the movie "The Incredibles". The first scene is Mr Incredible saving a guy that was committing suicide. The guy successfully sued and then everyone starts suing the superheros and the movie progresses. It always really shocked me that parents werent up in arms protesting at that initial scene. It also reminds me of the 30 something year old guy that sued his parents because he didnt ask to be born so they should be liable for paying for all of his expenses for his entire life.

[@bludgerabled]

Nice suit!

[@samkuperman9035]

How do you know that the honey is from your pollen specifically? Clearly, you’d need to subpoena the bees to get the metadata on the honey

[@Tkieron]

That sounds like something Monsanto would do.

[@Valdagast]

Pollen is not turned into honey, nectar is.

[@guyinagame4793]

ah yes, subpoena metadata. yes, yes

[@pallen1665]

Someone watched videos in the same order I did

[@bk-of8iv]

you need to subpollena

[@potentiallyently]

I love some sort of idea that everyday a man opens up his bee farm in his full outfit, nods at the bees and points over the fence saying, "GO MY BEES, FLY AND STEAL HIS POLLEN!" As a swarm of bees goes on command and flies over the fence.

[@reneecoons5057]

I love this image

[@damien678]

thats my gender

[@AndreNDP]

They all fly in a threatening formation...maybe like an interrobang?

[@gelesk26]

He got that Pavlov breed. You can train these buzzy bandits!

[@יותםהגלעדי]

The bad ending

[@urafaget5202]

That's like suing someone for breathing the air produced by your trees

[@benny_lemon5123]

That jerk didn't just *breathe* it, he *wrecked* it! Took all the oxygen and fricked it up with carbon and now all I got is clouds and clouds of greenhouse gasses. ... plus I'm pretty sure I saw my weed-eater at his yard sale last year

[@adalata]

Except someone breathes outside the tree owner's property.

[@TenApplesforTime]

@@benny_lemon5123 Aha! But the carbon helps the tree grow which enhances it, so you owe ME money now!

[@nathen4171]

Not unless they’re selling the air... I think... either way this whole thing is dumb lol

[@lugoorstar]

@@nathen4171 is the owner selling pollen? No, that's why he is plain stupid and envious

[@CorgiDaddy2]

Our neighbors decided that they wanted to keep bees. Our garden harvest was incredible. We ended up giving food away. They didn't keep them last year and we definitely noticed a lower yield.

[@pizzlerot2730]

My thought exactly. This neighbor was well-compensated with HUGE BOUNTIES OF BEAUTIFUL BLOOMING FLOWERS, but sadly they were too narcissistic/greedy/stupid to realize it. Just another case of someone having WAY too much time on their hands and not enough to fill it with... 😒

[@UrpleSquirrel]

My grandparents had beekeeper neighbors. They gave everyone on the street an 8oz jar of honey every Christmas. Everyone who grew fruit or vegetables in their gardens gave them some from late spring to early fall. We freaking LOVED those beekeepers and they loved us. It's the definition of a win-win!

[@ashurean]

@@UrpleSquirrel gift economies are awesome

[@Oysters176]

Won't do anything for Potatoes, carrots or cabbages.

[@shinigami052]

I'd say 95% of all advice threads on Reddit can be summed up by: "Go talk to the other person".

[@bigswordspikedhair]

I thought it was "delete facebook, lawyer up, hit the gym"

[@SugarFreeTargets]

r/relationship or r/advice have some of the worst advice. It's either "break up" or "talk to her/him" No wisdom to share, no pros vs cons suggestions, no nudes. What an awful place

[@jamman3464]

shinigami052 When it comes to legal advice "Go talk to a lawyer" is usually the best advice.

[@Fetidaf]

@@jamman3464 same with "talk to the other person" if you have relationship troubles with bf/gf, friend, neighbor, coworker etc

[@usermcskull4713]

Calidrius The third one is really the best one

[@FrostyFrostySnow]

"Few lawyers, if any, actually deal with wild animals on a regular basis" It really depends if you count clients...

[@inurokuwarz]

Bird Law isn't recognized by the court but it's just as real as the streets.

[@photonicpizza1466]

Reminds me of the mediaeval lawyer who defended the rats of a village in front of the Catholic court.

[@saxonjedi5878]

@@photonicpizza1466 how that work out?

[@photonicpizza1466]

@@saxonjedi5878 The lawyer's name was Bartholomew Chassenée, and the case was about a rat infestation in Autun, France, in 1508. The lawyer used a few clever arguments regarding his clients' absence. First, that _all_ the rats had to be summoned, and that a simple notice in the village couldn't possibly reach all of them. The court agreed, and waited until the summons was properly posted in every village in the area, which was deemed sufficient. Then, when the rats didn't turn up, the lawyer said that the rats were afraid for their lives, and that no defendant had the obligation to risk their lives in coming to court. After all, they'd have to come through a city full of cats and dogs. The court had to begrudgingly agree with the logic, and the absence that day was excused. This is the last record of the case, it's likely that the case was dropped and ignored after this. Here's a great video about the whole thing and the background, and animal trials in general: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d326fXiCgdGpbKc

[@saxonjedi5878]

@@photonicpizza1466 thanks for the link👍

[@jasondoakes1372]

I'm sure there's some beekeepers screaming down below in the comment section that I couldn't find, but let me try to sum up why this is even dumber than it sounds at first; The plants are actually the party that profits the most in this interaction, by far. Pollen is not used to make honey. The plant's nectar is used for honey. The plants produce nectar to attract the bees. The pollen sticks to their hind legs and is 'accidentally' transported from plant to plant to pollinate the receiving plants, that's what makes them flower. The "victim" plants wouldn't be able to bear fruits or flower if they wouldn't be pollinated by the bees (save wind distribution). Meaning; the "victim" actually owes the bees way more than some nectar. Trading essential pollination for some unused nectar? I'd say that's a bargain. It's as if a guy came by and drank a glass of your tap water, while "accidentally" filling your fridge with fresh produce. Would you sue him?

[@stitchfinger7678]

Like he said, hiring a box of bees to pollinate your garden is a service that exists.

[@superbeltman6197]

What if someone stole your mother's ashes but gifted you a diamond ring value doesn't matter theft is theft.

[@BluntSam]

@@superbeltman6197 Are you siding with pollen boy?

[@albertochaves2590]

Pollen is actually made into "bee bread" which is the bees maun source of protien

[@hoolahooop]

@@superbeltman6197 But that's a terrible example. Obviously "your mother's ashes" doesn't have much literal value, but it has an INSANE amount of personal value, which the courts consider as well.

[@Satherian]

There was an old story book about a Japanese judge. One of the cases was the "Case of the Stolen Smell", where a man living above a fish resturant would open his window to get the delicious smells while he ate plain rice. The shopowner learned of this and got mad, claiming the man was stealing from him via smells. The judge ruled that the shopowner was right and would get his just reward, so he had the man pull out some coins and clink them in his hands. The shopowner was confused, but the judge explains that the compensation for stolen smell is the sound of money. It's one of my favorite stories and this reminded me of it.

[@ComissarYarrick]

Hey, I remeber that story, it was in one of book I read in like, elemantary school. And I'm from country that is on the other side od the planet ....

[@8523wsxc]

Newb: Sue the neighbor. Pro: Sue the bees.

[@muzamir]

An Absolute Legend: Sue the flowers that produce nectars for the bees ti steal

[@manictiger]

I'm suing the wicker basket. It's the real perpetrator.

[@JBC352]

The Legend of the Infinite Ascension: Sue the concept of crime itself.

[@ZomPaul2113]

Bam throw a protection on the bees for being Honey bees and get a university involved with a study program.

[@Jules_Pew]

Sue the flowers - they were asking for it flouting their blossoms and moist nectar.

[@longboweod]

"Now, I know, I know, you didn't come here to listen to a monologue about the plight of bees who work in sweatshops." I mean, I didn't, but now I'm all interested.

[@awesomesauce_3516]

I did. I’m very disappointed in him

[@tobybartels8426]

Jerry Seinfeld made a movie about that topic. It's got lawyers in it too! In fact, I think that it was even covered on this channel. (Oh, and excerpted right before this in this video too, I see.)

[@clocked0]

@@tobybartels8426 Lmao

[@tobybartels8426]

@@clocked0 : I made my comment before I'd gotten very far into the video.

[@katherinemorelle7115]

I’m actually worried for these bees now. I had no idea they were being forced to work in awful conditions and dying from it. That’s really sad. And it’s not like we can afford to keep losing bees. It’s why some of my vegan friends have either taken up buying local honey, or producing local honey. More bees is good. But- does this make almond milk no longer vegan, given that it requires the death of tens of thousands of bees to make? And what about the rest of the produce we use bees for? Like avocados and other fruit and veg? Are bees dying there too? Would this make all plant based food no longer vegan? (Yes this was mostly shitposting, being vegan is better for the planet, and as long as you do it right, better for health too. I’m not really arguing against going vegan- it’s actually a rather good idea and more people should do it. I’m too poor and have chronic conditions so I can’t, though we did cut down on animal products. I’m not lying about the mates of mine that have started eating or making honey though)

[@LegalEagle]

I AM HERE FOR THE BEE PUNS

[@samsonic2]

Oh, beehave man

[@seamusbenn2967]

I’m just here to see what all the buzz is

[@dirtydish6642]

Are you pollen my leg?

[@JSNDragon]

Are you beeing serious?

[@SgAltima]

The flower owner should set up a "sting" to videotape the thievery.

[@EvolvingLark]

Countersuit: My bees have been making your garden beautiful. You gotta pay me for the work my bees have been doing for you.

[@Rachel-fi4sc]

You mean... beeutiful, right? ;)

[@GgTTV828]

​@@Rachel-fi4sc That pun was as sweet as honey!

[@EdinoRemerido]

@@Rachel-fi4sc to bee is to bee beeutiful

[@Travelinmatt1976]

Bees have a 2 mile range, it could be anybody's bees in his yard, and they could be wild bees too.

[@MrKGatl]

Travelinmatt76 So, it’s a class action suit that should be brought by the entire neighborhood?

[@hotbam37]

I was always taught it is a 3 mile range. interesting

[@ChrisOReilly]

@@hotbam37 I'm no expert but I would assume it varies by the kind of bee (if I'm not mistaken there are multiple kinds)

[@Atzy]

@@hotbam37 Varies on the species of bees, varies with weather, varies with type of terrain etc It can be up to 6 miles

[@pibi-tudu-kaga6991]

What terrible gas mileage, get better bees people

[@pokemaster123ism]

I see LegalEagle has gone with the “Phoenix Wright” aesthetic for this episode

[@fatuusdottore]

B.J. Blazkowicz Love it.

[@Anthony8851]

Only missing the phoenix attorney pin.

[@TheDoubleA12]

I could totally see this being in Ace Attorney. Only problem is someone would have to die.

[@bachpham6862]

@@Anthony8851 And the gravity-defying anime hairstyle.

[@Ryukai-san]

As soon as I saw him that's the first thing that popped into my mind xD

[@Mae-ek9uo]

My immediate thought to "I was stung as a child, I know how dangerous bees can be." and really the guys whole rationale was "Based on your logic, a neighbor with severe seasonal or pollen allergy could sue you because your flowers create a hazardous environment." Which we know is outrageous, and would never fly in court.

[@CertifiedDoc]

Actually, I'd bet that would go over better in court than the bee thing, for the simple reason that the plaintiff is suffering an actual adverse physical reaction. There's still the question of whether any liability actually exists, but it's marginally more probable to succeed.

[@cheyannerockett8870]

But what about the neighbor not knowing of the others allergy and they don’t tell them. Still bees still belong to nature no matter how “contained” they are.

[@johnsonbaroncaveler6634]

hehe *fly* in court.

[@levarmy4339]

This person is a moron. Guy is telling a bunch of grown adults that “they know how dangerous bees can be” because they were sore for an hour and a half as a kid. And what, did they need an ice cream cone to calm down? Idiot. Absolute idiot.

[@camilog777]

@@cheyannerockett8870 I mean, unless those flowers in the neighbor garden grew randomly, they also belong in nature where they usually dont grow in the prefered color ofthe neightbor in arrangements that the neightbor wants

[@ultimateninjaboi]

I love how you can tell they dont actually care about the bees, and are just seeing an opportunity to force the neighbor to pay them, rather than just asking the neighbor politely to save them a jar.

[@jamescoomber3419]

The neighbour doesn’t owe them a jar of honey. If anything the beekeeper should be compensated for having to live next door to an asshole.

[@TheTruCloud]

@@jamescoomber3419 In fairness, he could have just poisoned his flowers and let the bees die, it is still THEIR property, since the neighbor/bees are effectively using the property without permission then any damages that happen to the bees are of no fault of the land owner. Edit: Think about a neighbors cat getting into your engine and it kills them, not the fault of the land owner.

[@adguy4137]

@@TheTruCloud pretty sure thats illegal based on intent

[@TheTruCloud]

@@adguy4137 Intent is hard to prove :P

[@mechwarriornut]

in that situation, intent would be very easy to prove. putting poison on the flowers to kill off the neighbor's bees, would be equivalent to putting out ground hamburger with thumb tacks in it to kill the neighbor's dog. you did knowingly apply a harmful substance to a food source and left it on your property with the intent of poisoning harming or killing whatever animal came along to consume it. now of course in this situation the landowner could simply claim they had sprayed their flowers with a pesticide to keep down ants or other pest insects, but I think any trial lawyer would be able to argue intent here. your analogy of the task in an engine would be more applicable to if the landowner had previously been spraying their yard with pesticides, long before the neighbor began keeping bees, and The beekeeper was trying to sue them for damages as a result.

[@SakariWolf13]

Those bees should be found guilty of honey laundering 😂😂... I'll see myself out

[@pancakestack4439]

Not really they are very different

[@alexlato3974]

I suggest we commence a sting operation ... alright, I'm leaving

[@Zillzbillz]

@@pancakestack4439 r/wooosh

[@jonathanschreiber6053]

Oh no

[@tudorcode]

Yes,and please never come back

[@LegalEagle]

Before you jump all over me, this was posted to Reddit, NextDoor, and Twitter. Hence me referring to the "redditor" throughout.

[@user-ei9ns9hq6b]

OK boomer

[@TheCritic-MMA]

Question, if the neighbor poisoned the flowers in his own yard (maybe including posting a notice, like the fertilized grass notices) which killed the "trespassing" bees, would the beekeeper have a case?

[@ashwilliams1725]

@@TheCritic-MMA I am also interested in this.

[@jlkjlkjkljklj9162]

​@@TheCritic-MMA Not A Lawyer, but I believe so. If the neighbour went out of their way to get a dangerous chemical to put on their ground BECAUSE they wanted to kill the bees, then there would be intent. The damages, I guess, would be the loss of revenue and how much the beehive is worth. If the neighbour was just fertilising the grass because... well, the grass had to be fertilised, and the bees happened to die... no idea. I feel like the answer is "depends on how much the beekeeper is able to pay their lawyer".

[@jasonpost913]

@@TheCritic-MMA Most pesticides that can cause injury to bees and other pollinators have labels informing the user that 1) using the pesticide in a manner that is likely to cause injury to bees is not approved by the label and 2) that using a pesticide in a manner not compliant with the label is a crime. "Likely to cause injury to bees" means you can't apply at times when bees are in flight to plants which are in bloom. So yes, the beekeeper neighbor could have a lawsuit against a neighbor using pesticides to poison any encroaching bees.

[@pearceburns2787]

You've seen bird law You've seen bee law Now, coming to a lawyer near you, It's the birds and the bees law

[@Derpyspartan154]

“I’m Chris Hanson. Take a seat.”

[@Stormkrow280]

Never understood why it was called that

[@ashwilliams1725]

@@Stormkrow280 because of the imagery of bees pollinating and bird eggs hatching

[@Naharu.]

@@Stormkrow280 it doesnt need to make sense.

[@ashwilliams1725]

@@Naharu. but it does

[@Wrighjj]

This reminds me of a newspaper legal advice column decades ago involving a baker who wanted to charge pedestrians who paused in front of his shop to enjoy the smells.

[@kated3165]

'' I used to snort that pollen everyday first thing in the morning, but now I can't no more because of those darn bees!''

[@MegaMato]

That stuff will jack you up.

[@silverflight01]

Bruh, that would be hilarious to see

[@jeffslote9671]

Here in Missouri the beekeeper is protected by the right to agriculture. Same as a someone who moves next to a farm and complains about smell.

[@the1exnay]

What if he's in a residential area? Is there no place one can live without BEEing harassed by bees?

[@Relfar2]

@@the1exnay Get a homeowners association or pass a city ordinance. Otherwise bees

[@jeffslote9671]

@@the1exnay In Missouri with right to farm laws it comes down to who was there first? Farm or residential area? For example if you move next to an existing CAFO and it stinks your out of luck. However you can fight a new one being built if a farm never existed before there.

[@CanalTremocos]

There's a trend in Europe of people that move to rural areas and then sue against cowbell noise, cock crowing and neighbour farm smell. Good on Missouri for cutting the idiot's legs before they run.

[@themastermason1]

I wonder about when it comes to living near an explosive ordinance disposal range. If you have a situation where shrapnel or other material from the range flies into your property is the range and the municipality that operates it liable or are you, the homeowner at fault for having moved into the development that was built on obviously cheap land nearby the range without having done research? I'm thinking of the time when Mythbusters sent a cannonball into a Dublin, CA suburb that had built up around the Alameda County Bomb range.

[@zjplunkett]

"I'm not sure how he'd go about killing people." With the bees, obviously. What's the point of a serial killer raising bees if not to make them his personal murder army?

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

Candyman already did that.

[@imalwaysbluffing]

To make jars of honey to eat while he kills his victims with a gun.

[@thequad8945]

I thought the obvious way for a beekeeper to kill people would be to poison the honey, or make some horror est injection of bees inside someone before they burst out of the person and multiple and spread...granted that is more of a mad scientist route, but the strict requirement was killing multiple people with beekeeping relevent stuff XD

[@kennethd.christy6326]

Candyman.... That's twice. Does anyone dare utter his name a third time?

[@crunchytoast6007]

Kenneth D. Christy Candyland

[@Thoringer]

"I sternly talked to the queen to not fly over to my neighbors' fields and she told me she is the sovereign of the air and I had to leave or I will be stabbed."

[@mazoku112]

This is literally a person who is jealous of his neighbors success and trying to cash in some how.

[@2adamast]

When my neighbor brings in sheep I get flies

[@superbeltman6197]

That's corporate law for you

[@andylines8040]

All I heard was cash can I have some

[@anonthehousemouse]

That was my take on the whole thing.

[@troodon1096]

That's actually responsible for a significant number of lawsuits.

[@JargonMadjin]

I love how you pretty much ended it with "Try asking your neighbor for a jar of honey, dude." It's something so simple it makes you wonder why the OG poster didn't even think about it

[@binda33]

Honey is expensive. I don't think expecting free honey is reasonable since the bees are doing no damage.

[@JargonMadjin]

@@binda33 That's also a fair point

[@stevewebber707]

Perhaps I read between the lines a bit, but a person willing to seriously consider suing for bees stealing pollen doesn't sound very reasonable or rational. If I were the beekeeper approached by the self entitled bee hater requesting free honey, I wouldn't be inclined to be generous. So while it is a simple solution, it has flaws that even the bee hater is likely to recognize. The whole situation hinges upon bees stealing pollen which is pretty absurd on almost every level. I'm hoping that this was a hypothetical question rather than a real situation.

[@JargonMadjin]

@@stevewebber707 It would just be one of those things that gets a chuckle but never makes it anywhere near a court of law

[@harrisonmundschutz2654]

Could I sue my neighbours for their plants stealing the water from my soil as they live downhill from me? It’s just as ridiculous a claim

[@feha92]

You probably could if they lived uphill instead of downhill. The way water is affected by civiliation is _exactly_ why building permits are needed, and why city planning is a thing.

[@TorreFernand]

This actually happened to my great-grandfather. The rural world was fun

[@countvladislausdragulia7414]

Flip side: (Pretentious, thick British accent) I have been making my bees pollinate my neighbour's flowers for years! And yet, I have not once in my lifetime received a bouquet of flowers! This is outrageous!

[@kaihsiung5966]

I would love for this to have gone to court and then getting told they owe money to their neighbour for the services of pollinating their flowers. That would make for some excellent popcorn eating fodder.

[@blauesKopftuch]

don't forget the entrapment the flowers do to attract the bees :-D

[@herranton]

Wouldn't happen. You can't force someone to pay for a service they didn't ask for. I can't come to your home, mow your lawn without consent, and then expect compensation for it. (I'd be trespassing as much as the bees, so that isn't an argument).

[@QuesoCookies]

@@herranton While that particular circumstance probably wouldn't hold up given you were knowingly trespassing in order to mow the lawn which would probably overrule the lack of compensation for the work not being requested, the bees can't be held accountable for trespassing nor can the owner make reasonable accommodations to prevent the bees from trespassing. Since the bees are breaking no laws but they are providing enrichment to the neighbor, the neighbor is actually under some obligation to either return the enrichment received or provide adequate compensation. Since they can't undo pollination, compensation is their only option. But then the counterargument could be that without the neighbor's nectar, the beekeeper wouldn't sell as much honey, so the beekeeper selling the honey their bees make from nectar provided in exchange for pollination from the neighbor, they are both enriched by the interaction and it is therefore just and no suit needs to be filed.

[@herranton]

@@QuesoCookies No, it's the same. The point is that you need a previously agreed upon contract. You can't force a contract on someone.

[@QuesoCookies]

@@herranton Quantum meruit, you do need an implied contract. Unjust enrichment, you do not.

[@K_Cummins]

Wouldn't a normal, reasonable human just "bee" like: "oh hey--you have bees, I have flowers the bees like...can I have some honey every once in a while?" Or ask for a discount on said honey at the market. Dude's Reddit post seems more like he's mad the neighbor isn't giving him any honey, but I have to wonder if he's ever even asked for some, or expected the neighbor to read his mind.

[@pellemiljoona5330]

It happened in America, and America is the country where you can sue anyone for basically anything, and win. He just wanted some free money. Doesn't mean it's not stupid though.

[@vladimirchobgto9691]

@@pellemiljoona5330 well if he wants to receive honey by sewing the other person it won't exactly be free. haha hah ha ... OMG LAWSUITS CAN BE EXPENSIVE

[@pills-]

I think the poster passed "normal" and "reasonable" awhile ago if they're asking advice of Reddit on how to sue their beekeeper neighbor for stealing pollen...

[@K_Cummins]

@@pills- Very true--and kind of what I was getting at: if you're going to Reddit to ask how to sue over an interpersonal problem that could be solved with talking to someone for, like, two minutes, then I'm pretty sure the courts can't help you anyway--unless it's to order you to seek psychological care.

[@lmd2215]

Neighbor disputes are a huge source of litigation -- for better or worse. Sometimes neighbors just really hate each other, and that hate goes far enough to get the courts involved. Remember, it's not lawyers that push the law to ridiculous extremes. It's clients.

[@toriwalker8893]

There was a case I heard about where someone sued a person for emotial distress as the defendant had stolen the prosecuter's wave when surfing.

[@RabblesTheBinx]

I think you mean the plaintiff's wave.

[@superbeltman6197]

Doubt that case would make it to trial but ok

[@georgewang2947]

@@RabblesTheBinx maybe the plaintiff was Miles Edgeworth

[@SageArdor]

@@superbeltman6197 It actually happened. The case was thrown out before trial could happen.

[@caleelahi]

"You guys are really crazy for tree law!" - I guess he's looking to branch out at some point, huh?

[@virginiafernandez6846]

... you’re amazing.

[@aparnaeaswar5246]

I should *root* around and find that video.

[@godrickstockwell1505]

*holds open door* You need to leaf

[@isaacgleeth3609]

OBJECTION: The video has no "Bee Joke/Pun counter" to keep track of bee-related jokes that should be illegal.

[@rabbitlove1785]

You mean it should BEE illegal?😎

[@johnsonpersonal1633]

Its an act of criminal negligence. Deprivation of a right to persue happiness and should be considered a great moral and legal crime

[@PyromaniacDelta]

It also makes it unreasonably harder on those of us seeking compensation for pun-itive damage.

[@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_]

Overruled. 🐝 on your way.

[@MineFreak6545]

Sustained

[@samvimes9510]

_"I was stung once when I was a child, so I know how dangerous bees can be."_ So they've only been stung once in their life, and it was years ago as a child? Wow, bees sure are dangerous alright.

[@hkr667]

Yep they are. My brother had to go to the ER for a bee sting. You don't know who has allergies.

[@sorenkazaren4659]

@H Kr If your brother is allergic then he should carry an epipen. Bees aren’t incredibly dangerous. Far, far more people die from car accidents and heart disease than from bee stings. If he cannot afford to carry an epipen, I’d argue that the pharmaceutical industry is more dangerous than the bees.

[@hkr667]

@@sorenkazaren4659 That's not the point. The commenter tries to make fun of the guy, implying how ridiculous it is that bees are dangerous. While it is a well known and documented fact that they can be.

[@sorenkazaren4659]

@H Kr Sure they can be dangerous. So can a cat. Or a dog. Or a tree. Or the air. Everything CAN be dangerous. The point is to what DEGREE they are dangerous. The CDC has stats on the number of sting related deaths. The average annual death count is 62 deaths. www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6829a5.htm That’s in the United States. A country with a population of... 327.2 million people.

[@sorenkazaren4659]

@Stephen Hill Now this is a more interesting legal argument. If you have a life threatening allergy to bees, and your neighbor becomes a beekeeper. Is there any legal action available there? It isn’t as though the beekeeper intends to harm the neighbor. And you cannot control the bees themselves. That said without a city ordnance or specific law banning beekeeping in that area, I’m not sure if the neighbor could force a beekeeper to stop having bees. So that is an interesting argument.

[@Epinardscaramel]

“can I SUE my neighbor's BEES??” Oh boy, I need to be in my confortable chair next to the fireplace, a glass of scotch in my hand to hear that one. This is going to be good!

[@danpowell806]

If you can get a process server to sign of on serving them, yes. You'll get a summary judgement for when they don't respond. And then you'll have to find assets of the bees to file liens on. And their hive legally belongs to the neighbor, not the bees.

[@nuzuk]

Dan Powell So how exactly are you proving that the bees are from that hive? Would you want to interview them in a deposition?

[@danpowell806]

@@nuzuk One option is to b-pose them and when they don't show up, use that to establish a negative inference.

[@pills-]

@@danpowell806 *Grabs popcorn So when is the eviction of the bees from the hive? :D

[@FrumpleJames]

“You didn’t come here to hear about the plight of bees going to war” You’re right, I didn’t, and I’m emotionally devastated now :’(

[@marc-andreservant201]

Isn't pollen *meant* to be taken by bees? "I'll sue you unless you stop your bird from eating in the birdhouse on my porch! Stop stealing my birdseed!"

[@ironrose6]

Marc-André Servant Using a pet bird eating from a neighbor's birdfeeder is a very poor example and not at all analogous to what's being discussed. If your pet is on my property, we'll have a conversation about boundaries and your pet gets 3 strikes before it doesn't come back to you. I've had too many asshole neighbors that refuse to control their pets. That being said, the premise for this lawsuit is absurd.

[@mangoesaredelicious4622]

@@ironrose6 but... these are bees. how do you control bees? they just... do their bee thing. buzz around and siphon nectar and pollen from flowers

[@ironrose6]

mangoes are delicious That's why I said the OP gave a poor example. Re-read his comment.

[@mikkj1]

I'm surprised that he didn't bring up that for there to be a theft, the thing taken has to have some value. The plaintiff would have to show that he has had some evaluation of the nectar and pollen prior to his suit and/or had plans to profit from it prior to the suit.

[@FF-tp7qs]

The bees are hardly stealing the pollen, as every time they go from plant to plant the pollen rubs of and pollinate the other plants and does what pollen us supposed to do

[@TheCat_3]

It's like a dog went into his yard, took his tools used for maintaining his lawn and plants, then did all of the neighbours yardwork, then took all the clippings left over for his owner to sell

[@akahoshirezosama]

that "redditor" will never get along with any neigbour. the mere fact that they thought they could have a case is sad evidence of that.

[@joshyoung1440]

You know when Devin doesn't immediately answer with "it depends," he's about to start winding up for a big fat "no case"

[@pilhlip]

"My Neighbor's Bees are STEALING My Pollen" but every time a Bee Movie clip plays it gets faster

[@riccardoorlando2262]

"My Neighbor's Bees are STEALING My Pollen", but every time a Bee Movie clip plays, the entire Bee movie plays

[@Stone_624]

"My Neighbor's Bees are STEALING My Pollen" but every time a Bee Movie clip plays the audio pitch gets 10% deeper.

[@NoriMori1992]

I would love to see that.

[@TheCyberwoman]

I don't know why, but I was almost expecting the flowers to be some kind of rare flower that needs to be hand pollinated, or they were upset by the neighbors bees cross pollinating their plants. Like some kind of actual damage....

[@ZakTheFallen]

It's a lawsuit that could only happen in the US. Where else would a basic highschool education defeat a lawsuit?

[@Daniel-yy3ty]

if you need that kind of oversight over the pollination leaving them outside would bee dumb...

[@jeffslote9671]

He also hasn't proven whose bees they are.

[@GoldenMechaTiger]

Jeff Slote Shouldnt be that difficult to just follow them home

[@DavidMulderOne]

@@GoldenMechaTiger the neighbor could argue they are just wild and he just provides them accommodation so he can harvest the honey

[@fireflocs]

When you said, "That's for the movie execs to figure out", I wanted to go "OBJECTION! That's for the _writers_ to figure out!" but then I remembered the state of modern cinema and realized you were right.

[@goodluckyoureonyourown3684]

I wish there was a high five option i could give you.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

@@goodluckyoureonyourown3684 Did you mean something like this? 🙏

[@ayyylmao101]

Can we really call it _cinema?_

[@navegct8457]

Sure, he can sue the bees for theft. Then the bees will sue them back tenfold for murder of insects and stealing lands

[@trashboat6436]

I didn't think pollen could *bee* stolen

[@lilsaam]

r/dadjokes

[@zettavago2385]

@@jamesmancuso3666 r/whooosh

[@slipknot95maggot]

BOOM

[@OrQuattroIDK]

That pun *stings*

[@moukidelmar]

@UCX8ypryo9Lr3y-XlRlu97RA omg, that would be an amazing crime! Train bees to fly specifically to a special breed species of, peppers say, and then back where the pollen is collected for reverse engineering!

[@lilsaam]

When he said "the bees are trespassing" I burst out laughing, this is gold 😂

[@TheGerm24]

The stupid thing about it is that as a gardener, you want bees around so your plants make fruit. Someone failed their basic biology class.

[@DanJuega]

beespassing

[@cujosgaming7085]

You mean "Black and Gold".

[@lilsaam]

@@cujosgaming7085 Haha noo what a missed opportunity

[@aSinisterKiid]

For real, when the guy said "they are stealing my pollen", I had to laugh. Like what the hell are you gonna do with the pollen dude? lol

[@zenzeph926]

I'm curious about another hypothetical: "I just moved in to a house, but I was unaware there was a beekeeper nextdoor. I planted for the spring and discovered an abundance of bees I didn't typically encounter. I'm allergic to bees so the very high number of bees prevents me from feeling safe going into my backyard to garden due to the high risk of being stung. Can I sue the beekeeper? Can I sue the realtor for not disclosing this?"

[@LH85242]

As far as the bee side, you probably wouldn't see a large increase in bee number on the flowers (bees can forage in a 10+ km radius depending on weather and what's available, so most flowers are already being visited by bees from one hive or another) and the odds of getting stung by a foraging bee without provoking it (grabbing it, stepping on it) are virtually 0. You can even pet a bee while it's foraging on a flower and they just move along! I suppose your odds of getting stung would technically increase SOME amount, but very minimally in practice.

[@NourSelim0]

@@LH85242 If a bee flies next to me and I try to swat it (as a natural reaction to flying insects), would it become aggressive and try to sting me? I'm asking because I'm actually terrified of bees, they are like house flies that fight back, or mosquitos that are more painful 😅

[@brynclarke1746]

@@NourSelim0 Don't swat at bees, it's simple, unlike mosquitoes they have no interest in you, nor might they contaminate food like house flies

[@cheeto.burrito]

@@NourSelim0 Bees are harmless if you don't try to attack them. Wasps, however...

[@LH85242]

@@NourSelim0 Hard to say. If it's [european] honey bee (Apis mellifera), i.e. the bee that's kept by beekeepers in america and europe, I think you would have a decent chance of getting away with it. This is because their stingers are barbed and are almost always torn out of the bee's abdomen (behind) and left in your skin. Once the bee has lost her stinger, she will die. This is why foraging honey bees will rarely sting. Stinging is usually in defense of the hive. It's worth giving your life to defend your thousands of sisters, but since stinging is a suicide tactic, it isn't used as self defense unless the bee is pretty sure she'll die anyways. However, wasps and solitary bees do not lost their stinger when they sting, and so will sting more readily (though still not often when foraging, I've pet paper wasps on flowers as well). All this to say, I can't recommend swatting any kind of insect that can sting, because there's a chance that it will sting. Swatting them away is a natural reaction, but it can be overcome! If you aren't near their nest, most bees and wasps don't really want much to do with you. They can be intimidating when they fly up close to you to check you out (as in carpenter bees), but if you leave them bee, you're usually better off than when fighting back.

[@amithm3]

The bee keeper must then counter sue them for seducing their bee with the nectar of their plant

[@krissybaglin9206]

These puns have caused serious mental damage to thousand, anyone know a good lawyer for a class action lawsuit? Also, speaking of puns. How haven't you used 'lawsuit' as a way of tying in *indochino*

[@eamonnstamp]

That suit looks like Phoenix Wright's. When's the cosplay?

[@eamonnstamp]

Also the puns are beeutiful..... I'm sorry.

[@ginnyjollykidd]

@@eamonnstamp No you're not! 😊😉❤️

[@arklaw8306]

@@ginnyjollykidd He could bee though.

[@fatuusdottore]

Eamonn Stamp That’s what I was thinking too!

[@happycamperds9917]

Eamonn Stamp Ouch, that stings.

[@hotsprinkles]

"if you are driving a semi truck full of fireworks, maintaining a nuclear reactor" I had to go back to make sure he didn't mean both at once because yeah you'd probably be liable for that one

[@dhawthorne1634]

I have a beekeeper neighbor as well. While they are very annoying when I am trying to harvest from my garden, particularly herbs (I do have to put on gloves to not get stung if one lands on the stem I'm trying to strip); I'm not overly concerned for myself but there was a neighbor even closer to the hives that was severely allergic. That neighbor had lived in the development long before the beekeeper and the beekeeper only started this hobby recently. It got to the point that the allergic neighbor felt the need to move in order to avoid gambling with their life every time they stepped out to get the mail. On a side note, this beekeeping neighbor has also had issues with their dogs, one that resulted in legal action when beekeepers wife and rottweiler got injured after a lab defended it's owner's 7 and 5 year old when the rott lunged at them. Result was the lab got put down and the lab's owner had to sell her recently deceased husbands truck to pay for the court fees and damages. The reasoning was that the lab was off leash (in it's own yard, I might add) and the rott was restrained (but by a 90lb woman that feels the need to wear leathers when walking this dog so she doesn't get road burn if it ever manages to pull her off her feet like their last dog did). I know it has no legal bearing but what kind of heartless jackass do you have to be to sue a family and have two kids dog put down a few months after their dad is KIA and your own, untrained dog was the clear aggressor?

[@katrosemond6411]

totally not related to this video but I went pokemon hunting in a mall I haven't been to in a while and walked by an Indochino store and, out loud, whispered "Indochino" as I went by... I blame this channel... lol!

[@candykanefpv]

Kat Rosemond are you brick?

[@sutarikun]

But will Indoccino be introduced in gen 9 or 10, a clear evolution of Minccino or Cinccino?

[@jaschabull2365]

Did the store sue you for trying to catch their flabébés?

[@jeffslote9671]

Bee's dying overwinter isn't uncommon. Unfortunately I lost hives in the past overwinter. Also you can somewhat direct bee's flight path. A high fence near the front of their hive can cause them to take a higher flight path

[@reichrunner1]

Sure you can make them travel higher, but you cannot keep them off certain property or the like. And yeah my family manages a number of hives and 30-35% losses is considered normal anymore for overwinter :/

[@jeffslote9671]

@@reichrunner1 I wasn't saying you could keep them off others property.

[@reichrunner1]

@Lexington73300 Nah colony collapse disorder is long over. It was killing hives for a few years from 2006-2010ish. Though even with that you have to remember that there are specific symptoms for CCD, one of them is that they are not overwinter losses. Most of the people I knew at the time who were claiming losses actually had their bees dying of other causes, but were blaming CCD. I was speaking specifically about my families hives (we manage between 100-200 hives, depending on the year and season) though. Of course, the average across the country is still around 35-40%. Bees are having issues, but not the kind that the general public seems to believe lol

[@domenikadonnerstag836]

Just a quick heads up: Bees don’t make honey out of pollen.

[@ZakTheFallen]

That's the best part. The guy was a moron for using "pollen theft" as the basic for his argument. His entire case can be dismissed by simple biology.

[@Hexagonal_Crank]

“Let’s not let the facts get in the way of the implementation of the law.” - a clearly out of control institution, 2020.

[@GeatMasta]

Bees do eat pollen tho; the larva eat honey and the adults eat pollen.... at least i think?

[@asvarien]

@@GeatMasta Newp, all bees consume the nectar from flowers. The transfer of pollen is just a happy secondary effect of bees buzzing from plant to plant.

[@ginnyjollykidd]

No, it sticks to their fuzzy selves. However, they do eat nectar, and then they themselves make honey out of bee spit. The one is inseparable from the other.

[@HazyJ28]

"The non lawyer makes an objection" So basically everyone on Reddit then

[@andy56duky]

That and twatter.

[@scottmatheson3346]

everyone on his videos, per his own urging

[@PatrickRMcCoy]

There is a seventh-century CE law tract from Ireland called Becbretha (literally 'Bee Law') which actually deals with this very issue.

[@bradypostma5167]

I want that to be true to an unreasonable extent.

[@jfarrar19]

Time for 7th century case law in 2020!

[@Kirbyoh]

@@bradypostma5167 artsandculture.google.com/exhibit/irish-manuscripts-in-the-library-of-trinity-college-dublin-trinity-college-dublin-library/uAIScpFw21RhJw?hl=en Observe! :)

[@lostbutfreesoul]

That was quite interesting, thank you for bringing that up. Excerpt from a translated version I found online: If bees belonging to one man swarmed on the land of another, the produce was divided in certain proportions between the two.

[@redsnowpenguin]

@@Kirbyoh is angry neighbor's home a lawful green?

[@anthonypc1]

the "Reasonable person" standard always makes me laugh. there's so many ways that people are ordinarily unreasonable.

[@scottmatheson3346]

right, the reasonal person does not exist.

[@aedinius]

If my neighbor was a bee keeper and I found their bees in my neighborhood, I'd research good flowers for bees and make sure they get planted. BEE COLONIES ARE IN DECLINE. WE MUST SAVE THEM.

[@mykaruest6257]

I'm deathly allergic and EpiPens are 600$ which 300$ are covered by my insurance therefore I don't have one. If I was next door to a beekeeper I have two options. Ask them to move their hives to a safer location or move myself. If I get stung I literally have have half an hour or I'm dead.

[@ryanalving3785]

@@mykaruest6257 Stay safe

[@mykaruest6257]

@ArmchairWarrior I'm not getting a second job because the system failed me and my dying mom. I'm paying student loans and my mom's cancer treatment and I'm trying spend time with her. Sorry that excuse isn't good enough...

[@Vanessa-bv2rj]

So this is a pet peeve of mine. Yes, bees are important for the environment as pollinators. But they aren’t the only pollinators in decline. Butterflies, hummingbirds, their populations are in decline in part due to some species of bees being invasive species. Why don’t we care about them? In my opinion, because they don’t benefit us like bees do. They don’t give us honey, they have no direct purpose for us. What about the thousands of species AP that are endangered, the species that go extinct every year? We don’t care about them, because they don’t benefit us, even though they can be just as important, potentially more so, than bees.

[@Vanessa-bv2rj]

ArmchairWarrior $600 a few times is fine, but potentially every day? Since that’s potentially what you’d need if you’re next door to a bee keeper. You gotta be pretty rich to be able to drop hundreds of dollars a day for an epipen.

[@buckrodgers1162]

I once had a "friend" that "borrowed" a movie and never called me or showed his face again. Now that's theft. Bees can't 'steal' pollen, because they have no concept of one's personal property lines, or ownership of flowers. And asking a beekeeper to somehow control where their bees go and do not go when in the area is just absurd.

[@ccreutzig]

Fun fact: Austria and Germany actually have bee law. And I'm not just talking about the Bienenseuchenverordnung (regulations to avoid epidemics in bee colonies) - the base civil code (AGB, BGB) actually has explicit and specific rules for who owns a colony and even a rule that a beekeeper in pursuit of a swarm can legally enter your property.

[@theholyduck5520]

I love how Germans create titles by just jamming a bunch of words together.

[@Disgruntled_Dave]

"Beekeeper in pursuit of a swarm." Is that someone who is trying to grow a swarm, or trying to contain one?

[@ca19ro]

I believe (as in I heared it somewhere) it is actually your duty to follow your bees as a beekeeper if you don't want to lose ownership over them here...

[@Apokalypse456]

@@Disgruntled_Dave when bees hatch new queens they swarm. a third to half of the colony will follow the new queen(s) and attempt to settle a new colony. beekeepers want to follow them and allow them to settle into a new beekeeping box by making sure they place the queen in there. the rest of the swarm quickly follows. alternatively they can also kill the young queen and collect the bees, returning them to their original hive or any other hive. queenless bees will be absorbed by other colonies. and if you dont know what it looks like there are tons of videos on youtube. i suggest 628dirtrooster

[@Disgruntled_Dave]

@@Apokalypse456 Good to know, thanks.

[@Themanwithnoscreenname]

"My Neighbor’s Bees are STEALING My Pollen" Gee, I wonder what the outcome of such a suit would Bee?

[@peachesrambo4037]

In the USA, it would go to court. Our courts are so screwed up, that anyone can sue anybody for anything, over and over.

[@ronpetersen2317]

The judge would dismiss the case and tell them to buzz off

[@flamelily2086]

I can just imagine what Judge Judy would say if this idiot took this case before her.

[@MissCaraMint]

Peaches Rambo Yeah, but unless there is a legitamit case it get’s thrown out of court.

[@kahlzun]

If the guy put a bug zapper in his yard, is he liable for any damages to his neighbours bees?

[@mattiascrowe2549]

If he puts it there, knowing it could cause damage to the bees and intending said damage, then yes, he might be sued (onus of proof on the owner, tbh it's more likely a problem if he poisons the flowers or bees directly rather than a bugzapper)

[@DaVeganZombie]

It’d be like plopping down poisoned meat in your yard and killing the neighbor’s dog. Just because it’s there, and on your property, doesn’t mean it’s alright. And gods help that guy if the neighbor found THIS post on reddit beforehand, and could prove it’s malicious

[@ntdscherer]

@@DaVeganZombie It would be like putting out poison to kill a pest like rats or something, and the neighbor's dog finds it and eats it.

[@slushpuppie19]

Ooh now THAT'S a question!!

[@bennettflint119]

It depends on whether or not it can be proved that he did it with intent to specifically harm the bees I guess.

[@DukeDukeGo]

My old cat apparently went into someones garden or something and stole their badminton shuttlecocks. We had at least 3 or 4 real-feather shuttlecocks just suddenly appear. And those are more expensive than those cheap plastic ones. I'm now imagining someone trying to sue us over this.

[@muranziel]

My first thought: "Honey isn't made out of pollen." I wonder if that could bee used in court for the bee keeper.

[@JacksonBockus]

Mooneri I don’t think so, since (a) bees really do take pollen to use as food and (b) honey is made from nectar, and this dumbass’s argument works just as well if it’s nectar they’re stealing from him (ie not at all)

[@afriendlycadian9857]

@@JacksonBockus wait i thought bees eat nector and pollen sticks to their legs which spreads it to other plants plus like i seriously think it would never get through court like wtf he wants his plants to eventually die or something

[@ccreutzig]

@@afriendlycadian9857 Bees need protein, primarily to raise brood. And they get that protein from pollen, which is why they collect pollen in the first place.

[@remenencenda768]

Christopher Creutzig no pollen just sticks to their hairy sides, they only need the nectar to make honey

[@ccreutzig]

@@remenencenda768 Then why do bee suppliers sell pollen patties for the times with little pollen? Why do my bees (like everyone else's) store pollen in the comb? And why did bee bodies evolve to be that good at collecting pollen?

[@ThisisRubbishlo]

Tree law omg that can end in huge damages awarded. Can't wait to see that one.

[@LongForgottenJ]

ThisisRubbishlo in British Columbia it is illegal to cut down a tree where an eagle has made their nest. Just thought I’d post a tree law.

[@crunchytoast6007]

ThisisRubbishlo 🌲

[@iagmusicandflying]

I've heard tree law is something lawyers often branch out into.

[@jochenstacker7448]

In Ireland they have a saying for this neighbor. "He wouldn't give you the steam of his piss".

[@thomasd9424]

Or the permutation, he wouldn't piss on ya if you were on fire.

[@somebodylikesbacon1960]

Idioms from other countries and cultures are so fun to hear

[@jochenstacker7448]

@@somebodylikesbacon1960 initially I misread "idioms" 😅

[@brianweaver327]

When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me Speaking words of wisdom Let it bee

[@CodieHenry]

Def can see you at your desk making notes for this video and just being like, "I went to law school for this"...

[@felixvelariusbos]

Worth every penny.

[@maitiu9895]

I remember when this first came up on Twitter and reading that in Irish Brehon (read 'clan') Law beekeepers had to give a section of their swarm/a section of the honey produced to their neighbours after 2 years to repay for taking of the pollen. Wouldn't work in a system without a method of gratuitous undertaking but interesting all the same!

[@GinEric84]

OBJECTION! The statement that infected Lewis Black's brain was, "If it wasn't for my horse, I never would have spent that year in college"

[@DissociatedWomenIncorporated]

Sustained!

[@ilovefunnyamv2nd]

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated ain't thst the damned truth, im about to have an aneurysm trying to figure out whst that meant, and here we are talking about bees

[@lmd2215]

LET'S FIGURE IT OUT!!!

[@mineturtle1000]

The last thing I'd do would be advicing the nabour to ask for a jar of honey. Something tells me that the sort of person that asks if they can sue their nabour for this is probably going to make things worse if they actually talk to their nabour like they are owed some honey.

[@WilliametcCook]

"You guys are _crazy_ for tree law" there are not many sentences that I can definitively say that I've never heard before in my life

[@theq4602]

As a person interested in Silviculture, I would love to know about tree law.

[@paulmaartin]

tree law is something that is often required

[@danpowell806]

r/treelaw

[@drankydrank1]

Tree law is amazing... Honestly the fact that so many people *don't* know about it is specifically why. Take all this with a grain of salt, I just watch youtube videos - Trees serve a lot of different purposes; like stabilizing hillsides and riverbanks, privacy and aesthetic reasons, etc. Also, trees are not easy to grow in many situations. They take *years* and in some cases are completely irreplaceable. All it takes is an ignorant chop-happy neighbor and a pissed off arborist for someone to find themselves in hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt. Tree law is as insidious as it is righteous. And almost always crazy entertaining.

[@drankydrank1]

@David DeVito ?... I don't use reddit much but I'm pretty sure r/treelaw has some solid stuff for anyone looking for additional info. Edit: lol actually I just pulled up r/treelaw and it's pretty close to what I was saying - "Did someone cut some trees down on property they didn't have permission to do that on? Call a lawyer if you're the property owner, because they might owe hundreds of thousands of dollars."

[@GogiRegion]

The dude says that they’re stealing his pollen to make honey, which isn’t even what honey is made from… Its made from nectar… He clearly doesn’t know anything about flowers and bees.

[@ryderninja]

Maybe this is a presumptive statement but I have to believe scientifically literate people are probably less sue happy.

[@ZakTheFallen]

@@ryderninja Yes, because they tend to have a decent education. Most lawsuits are filed by people too stupid to know what they're doing... but it does cause a thriving market for lawyers, at least.

[@jeffreytsao5710]

I am a lawyer, and I approve the bee puns in this video. In addition, I would like to commend my colleague on his demonstrated restraint in limiting said puns to a minimum. I would have been unable to limit myself to the same meager amount

[@fchau]

Cost of attorney = $300-400 an hour Settlement = A jar of honey

[@cynthiasimpson931]

My husband also pointed out, "How does the one neighbor know those are the bees from the other neighbor? Did he paint his bees pink or something?" Good point.

[@TheCinderfang]

Ya, good luck proving that

[@scottwpilgrim]

"I know you didn't come here to learn about bees, but about bee laws." Me: b-b-but I liked your bee presentation.

[@xxxdumbwordstupidnumberxxx4844]

You know it should've been beesentation, not bee presentation. *get out*

[@scottwpilgrim]

@@xxxdumbwordstupidnumberxxx4844 sorry. I don't pronounce it as preesent, I pronounce it as pressent. That pun never even occured to me.

[@robertaviles8451]

OBJECTION - The Honey Bee is an endangered species! Let the Bees... bee 🤣

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

Actually they aren't, they're one of the planet's most populous species of bee. Its species like the north American sweat bee which are in danger.

[@kx7500]

Perhaps you should tell that to the guy stealing their honey too

[@happy_amoeba]

NOPE! THAT BEE SPECIES IS *FINE*! SUPPORT *_NATIVE_* BEES! when there's a bee protection program, MAKE SURE ITS NOT JUST FOR HONEY BEES! In some places, Honey Bees actually take resources Native Bees would otherwise have gotten. This results in Native Bees dying out, and results in many plants that need the Native Bees to pollinate (Honey Bees are unable to pollinate these) dying out as well.

[@behrensf84]

It’s like the old saying, “I will pay for inhaling the scent of your barbecue, with the sound of the money in my pocket.”

[@shadowrobot7708]

I thought it was freshly baked apple pie

[@kyle9401]

No one: Absolutely no one: Neighbor of beekeeper seeing bees pollinating his flowers: NOOO! NOT THE BEES!

[@pills-]

"I'm trying to kill those flowers off! But your bees keep pollinating them!" :D

[@emilyepicmess8072]

A+ reference

[@timarheit7272]

I've actually that call in real life. Woman called about bees swarming the flowers near her back door. The bees weren't swarming, they were just pollinating the flowers and she wasn't happy about it and wanted the bees removed. I told her the best way was to remove the flowers. She wasn't happy with my response. Maybe this falls under "attractive nuisance" laws?

[@scottmatheson3346]

"Suing me won't bring back your goddamn pollen!"

[@Disgruntled_Dave]

Turns out, the angry neighbor was Nicholas Cage!

[@PretentiousYogi]

That’s a great looking suit

[@rymerws1]

*whispered* Indochino...

[@zettavago2385]

@@rymerws1 if only there was a place to buy a suit like that, well tailored and at a reasonable price...

[@jeffslote9671]

It's a little to bold of a color for my taste

[@StellaWSteel]

Makes him look like Phoenix Wright.

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

"When they got there, honey was seeping through the walls." What a horrifying image.

[@cobalt1754]

Yeah, absolutely terrifying. I'd definitely grab a few jars and try to scoop up as much honey as possible, though.

[@star3catcherSEQUEL]

@@cobalt1754 I mean, if you're not going to get rid of the bees, you could at least use them to turn a profit.

[@koatam]

I don't think "wall honey" is commercially viable or safe.

[@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive]

Winnie the Pooh's dream.

[@wendyn9780]

Reminds me of another case here in Oregon where a neighbor tried to sue for a noise violation - from the frogs living in the garden next door🙄

[@sophiedowney1077]

Why would that even bother someone? Frog noises are cute! Even when they're loud. My sister's frog straight up barks sometimes, and it's still adorable. I would love to hear the sound of frogs at night.

[@PeugeotRocket]

"If you think this video isn't going to be filled with bee puns, you are sadly mistaken my friend". You missed an opportunity for a pun there. You should have said "So bee prepared".

[@andrewgrant6516]

Alright, alright, no need to drone on about it.

[@RyuuBaka]

This is the most Karen type of lawsuit I could EVER imagine...

[@p.z.arnott2329]

I would say it's an American thing. Hell, we could sue someone for practically anything

[@bubblesharrison2110]

P.Z. Arnott literally anything actually, it’s just certain suits won’t go that far

[@RabblesTheBinx]

The only thing that could make it more Karen is if her neighbor is Black.

[@AnaCristinaish]

Right? Just ask for some honey and be on your way smh

[@YoutubeIsAGarbagePit]

stole the words from my mouth.

[@Exodeus1987]

My in-laws keep bees, they have five hives it is considered good neighbourly conduct amongst British beekeepers to give your immediate neighbours a jar of honey when harvest occurs. I would assume that this is the same in America, I wouldn't say in any way that the homeowner has a case, however it would be polite for the beekeeper to give them a jar

[@Darca1n]

When said neighbour resorts to lawsuits, they have forfeited the right to honey, imo.

[@brianjensen5661]

They forfeit that right simply by going on reddit to complain about bees doing what bees do.

[@joj.]

"Failing to contain the duck" is maybe my favourite allegation ever.

[@robertli3600]

9:28 I remember learning abt this in my lifeguard training. If you're off duty and you see a person drowning, you are under no obligation to save him even if you have the qualifications to do so. Even if you work at the pool but you came there for recreation, you dont have a obligation to save a drowning person. In fact saving them might even get you sued. On the other hand, if you are on duty. You better save them to avoid a load of legal hurt. Failing to save them wont get you into any legal trouble unless you have been negligent

[@randomstuff-qu7sh]

Most states have good Samaritan laws to protect you if you do decide to save a drowning person. It doesn't make you immune to being sued, but it does reduce the likelihood of a lawsuit succeeding since they'd have to prove gross negligence (depending on what state you're in).

[@FriedrichHerschel]

In my country, you have that legal duty even if you're not on duty. In fact, everyone has the duty to help to the best of their capabilites (and without endagering themself or others). This means that a non-swimmer's duty would only be to call for help, an off-duty lifeguard would still need act like he was on duty and rescue that drowning person.

[@uiomancannot7931]

Could you say that sending bees to work on almond plantations is like sending them to beeitnam?

[@SgAltima]

I don't know, you're just the best damned bee lawyer in the world.

[@dailysacrificedoublee]

14:22 It protecc It attacc But most importantly It go quacc quacc.

[@tombreon]

Thanks for explaining strict liability. My textbook in my business law class explained it in a weird way, so I wasn't sure I fully understood it. Your definition is much easier for us laypeople, haha.

[@Epinardscaramel]

“do you know how normal people behave? Maybe you’re one of them” me: meh.

[@stevencooper4422]

Beehave

[@Agarwaen]

That redditor sounds so much like a typical WASP.

[@crimsonhalo13]

... as in fragile and white, or just an angry arsehole? LOL.

[@seneca983]

What if your neighbor was a waspkeeper whose wasps gnaw on your walls and wooden tools to build their hives? Can you then sue to get compensation for the damage?

[@LazyCharms]

@@seneca983 What if they were a WASPkeeper and their WASPs kept coming into your yard trying to sign you up for an MLM or demanding to speak to your manager?

[@seneca983]

@@LazyCharms: That sounds pretty bad, but surely you can't fit an entire WASP hive in your front yard?

[@icicleditor]

As any Dungeon Master will say: "you may certainly try."

[@JessieWheeler5Ds]

When you talked about rescuing people, that reminded me of Good Samaritan laws. I would love it if you did a video breaking them down, including the potential legal trouble a Good Samaritan could get into.

[@kirstenmuller4536]

He talked about it a lot when he reviewed the Seinfeld season finale, since it has a lot to do with that (the crew gets arrested for supposedly breaking the law). That's the closest he's gotten.

[@jtjc7705]

A breakdown of the good samaritan laws would be amazing. Someone always has something to say on what is and is not legal pertaining to it, but who knows what bits and pieces are true or not.

[@ilovefunnyamv2nd]

reminds me of incredibles. "you didn't save my life, you ruined my death"

[@tangerinetech5300]

Look to The Incredibles opening

[@Tru1Tani]

"You guys are crazy for tree law" lines I've never thought I'd hear 😂

[@ilovefunnyamv2nd]

obviously haven't visited that reddit thread. treelaw is awsome, and you can get addicted quickly. Never enough coverage of treelaw!

[@Tru1Tani]

@@ilovefunnyamv2nd i don't have a reddit account so I depend on KZbin for my reddit fix cause if I join I feel my life will end there 😂😂😂

[@lmd2215]

Trees on private land can have incredible value. You might be surprised how many loggers will "accidentally" cut an acre of trees from a plot of land adjoining the land they were contracted to cut on. At that point, you're talking about tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oftentimes, loggers will get away with it because the wronged landowner simply never notices (we're talking about giant plots of land in Kentucky, Tennessee, maybe Michigan or Indiana -- where the owner never looks at most of it). So they figure it's worth rolling the dice.

[@Sunaki1000]

9:35 Depends on the State. In my Homecountry it is absolutely illegal to just walk by. its called "Unterlassene Hilfeleistung" translating to something like avoided Help.

[@verzocktes]

But and that's kinda important he states something that applies to us Germans too "you do not have to put yourself in danger" so youd atleast have to call the ambulance but you don't have to try to get that person out of the water because you could drown yourself

[@Sunaki1000]

@@verzocktes Thats true, he said that a little later. But it seemns like his Statement includes Help in General. So I wanted to note that.