Trump's Friends* Are All Pleading Guilty

[@LegalEagle]

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[@alanakafang6143]

what are they pleading guilty to?

[@petergerdes1094]

Can the eagle team help us if we've been indicted for subverting democracy?

[@kckc4955]

Why do I all of a sudden find my personal data on page 1 results? Incogni. More scams, and expecting you to delete this comment like you have in past.

[@RobVespa]

Whatever happens, justice won't happen. It's already too late for that. This is all a farce.

[@Harlem55]

As a 10th amendmemt question, how does the state of Georgia attain subject matter jurisdiction over an election for federal office? It seems that multiple federal circuit opinions hold that the states have lack of subject matter jurisdiction over federal processes (e.g. cases holding that state laws pertaining to process servers do not apply to a Fed R Civ P rule 4 complaint; state private investigator laws do not apply to a rule 11 investigation, etc. upon the grounds the states may not regulate what is a federal government process or matter. ) Therefore, it would seem that the long established federal appellate law outright bars Georgia's cases because the nature of a federal office confers subject matter jurisdiction to the federal district courts not to the state courts. Can you expound upon this a bit? Because to me, it would seem that the pleas must be vacated and the cases dismissed for lack of subject matter jurisdiction upon grounds of the nondelegation doctrine (e.g. the congress cannot delegate federal election law to the several states thus rendering Georgias law as applied unconstitutional).

[@vizard_ichigo_3893]

I'm shocked, the people that accused everyone of deceit are in fact deceitful themselves.

[@robertpayne6781]

That's the republican MO. Plays out time again

[@Revenante_of_Asylum]

And there is gambling in this establishment!

[@catritz]

lol

[@NicoGeeraerts]

First page in the right wing playbook, accuse 'the others' of shit you do yourself. Preferably without evidence so you can make up the evidence as you go along.

[@zombieregime]

...Shocked. Shocked! ...Well, not that shocked. That futurama reference aside, what you should be vigilant for is anyone else, yes, from any party they see fit to associate with, appearing to see this behavior as validating similar behavior on their end since "well they did it and it worked, why cant I do it?!" This whole ...thing... all of it, sets a horrible precedence for future potentially problematic behavior..... It doesnt matter if it comes from pretty sounding 5 second sound bites about fluffy clouds and warped statistics in order to enact the will of the few upon the many. Oppression can come from any side of the aisle. Remember folks, its the freedoms, rights, liberties, pursuit of property, and wellbeing for ALL. Not just the people who dont do the thing the talking heads said were bad. Use your brain, reason on your own. Keep in mind that the mass media profits on sensationalism, there are two sides to Occam's razor, and only one of them can be used for clicks....the less walked more logical, often closer to the truth doesnt make for good clickbait titles....No one is obligated to tell the truth or act in your best interest. So avoid allowing them to dictate your opinions about a subject without playing at least a little devils advocate. Events are blown out of proportion, and people are falsely accused all the time. Dont fall into that trap. Otherwise....nothing will ever get better. Be good to each other out there, kids.... You can do it. I believe in you.

[@JoshuaBenitezNewOrleans]

The Art of The Plea Deal

[@JoshuaBenitezNewOrleans]

Among the most vindicating experiences of my life

[@Time_Is_Left]

@@JoshuaBenitezNewOrleans I don’t hate it lol

[@lisaahmari7199]

😅😂

[@emeraldspark101]

That's gonna be a headline somewhere, lol.

[@eeveegee666]

I’ve liked this many many times😂

[@mattmac5506]

Imagine being referred to as "A bit nuts" by Laura Frickin Ingraham? That's like being referred to as "A bit violent" by Jack the Ripper

[@1313stjimmy]

I mean... It takes one to know one right?

[@pjlusk7774]

Or John Belushi saying you party a bit too hard

[@AudreysKitchen]

Lmao

[@skaetur1]

She’s a bit looney. -The Mad Hatter

[@controlledsingularity8084]

mad people often corectly identify other mad people. in a room with 4 people claiming to be jesus, each will claim the other 3 are insane.

[@MadmanLink]

Jenna Ellis was all smiles before she read her statement to the court. Cried for the judge and then was right back to smiles in a minute or two. It's really hard to take anything these people for real.

[@Erik-hi]

I love how Fox news hosts knew she was lying but still had her on their shows and never pushed back against her claims. Instead they went along with it to increase their ratings and dupe their audience. Just despicable

[@markkrajnik]

Its not news for at least 15 years or more ,its propaganda!!! Almost nothing they blather on about comes true their audiences seem to have zero memory!

[@iPeeOnBabies]

They were all waiting for a piece of Insurrection Pie until they realized how insane the coup plot was.

[@richardluce775]

You ever hear the Song “Dirty Laundry”.

[@evilchipmunk4090]

and now Fox "News" has volunteered to pay almost a billion dollars, which is a thousand million, for illegal and immoral statements against Dominion, and to one of their own producers, and are STILL being sued by Smartmatic and their OWN BOARD OF EXECUTIVES! true story.

[@TheJerbol]

Yeah supposedly Carlson is actually good friends with Democrats and others, he just puts on his angry face for the viewers. Which is still horrible

[@jastaylor2730]

Sydney Powell, who pleaded guilty in court, and got off easy, goes outside, the court, and immediately claims that she was forced to confess and starts spreading the same stuff as before. Why does not the judge revoke the sentence she got, and converte it to jail time

[@persaunna]

Right? It's just so frustrating

[@dreadkaiser1058]

do that AFTER they get her to testify

[@jimmymcgill7370]

Yea ikr, they’re all shit people but at least Jenna Ellis actually had the decency to act remorseful. Powell is just bipolar or something idek

[@1hanagima]

They all are at risk of being charged for election interferences/fraud and other states, too. lol they are in trouble

[@jaym7369]

Powell is genuinely nuts 🤪. She is not going to testify truthfully and is going to jail! 🎉👍

[@auroraofclanborealis]

I love how their default defense is "no reasonable person would believe me"

[@asheronwindspear552]

And don't forget "it's our first amendment right to be able to lie to people's faces"

[@cryochick9044]

​@@asheronwindspear552or "it's my first amendment right to defame people"

[@asheronwindspear552]

@@cryochick9044 yeah Trump, and now even a member of his legal team, seem to think that's true. As I've pointed out to multiple people people speech has its limits which commonly means defamation, direct threats, making a false declaration and false advertising are examples of this.

[@cryochick9044]

@@asheronwindspear552 also false reporting of a crime is a crime

[@CRneu]

That's a legal way of saying, "The folks that believe us are idiots". Which is another way of saying, "We're scamming people"

[@cupguin]

I was in charge of physical ballots once, in an election where the results were decidedly not what I would have preferred. The results had already been recorded, signed off on and announced but I still had a sealed collection of ballots in my possession. I knew exactly what my responsibility was, what the law was and I took that responsibility incredibly seriously. It didn't matter what the result was, people's votes had been entrusted into my care and it was my responsibility that every single ballot was kept safe and secure. There would have been no universe where I would have let some random lawyer or anyone have access to the ballots or let them leave my control. I took better care of the collection of ballots that couldn't be cast! Genuinely shocked anyone in that position would be that cavalier with something that important.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

This is a point of constitutional power. A sacred duty. In many countries electoral workers have been pressured. Sometimes with a gun, sometimes with a box of donuts. I fear that I too would've faltered.

[@haxie4516]

@@alwaysdisputin9930 Doughnuts are pretty tasty 🤔

[@SugarandSarcasm]

@@haxie4516depends on the kind

[@captainzork6109]

​@@alwaysdisputin9930Donuts don't seem too threatening 🤔

[@The-Droll-and-LazyJoker]

It is when given with a smile. @@captainzork6109

[@thomasbecker9676]

Why aren't these crooked attorneys getting disbarred? Attorneys need to clean their own house.

[@ericwilliams1659]

Must of them have already lost their ability to practice in some states. Rudi for example. Others have been protected by dark money. Like Powell won her case in TX to stay a lawyer but will probably lose GA now that she has entered guilty plea. Basically, each state has to decide on each lawyer. No single "national" bar to join/leave.

[@WolfieDawn]

Because the ones in bed together, doing illegal crap for tons of money, are also these same people. They protect their own (the rich).

[@1hanagima]

They are being disbarred left, and right😂 after the cases is over, they will be disbarred in more states.

[@carlodave9]

Right. When you weigh the long-lasting damage they did to the the idea of election security misdemeanor plea deals seem pathetic.

[@wendyarnold6921]

I think they some are on probation 5 yrs then everything resets like they can start again. Is that right?

[@Janthdanl]

It’s crazy that these people committed basically what would be considered high treason in any other country and all they’re receiving here are probation lol

[@katanah3195]

I used to believe that treason was an outdated charge no government can be trusted with the power to prosecute for, but this whole debacle is making me think, I still don’t want governments being allowed to execute people for treason but this lot definitely need to be given long prison sentences under a primary charge of treason. Because they didn't just defy the government, they harmed the nation itself and hurt innocent people.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

For real!! I understand the function of plea deals in building a case like this, but frankly there seems to be so much extant evidence from security cameras, public statements, seized recordings etc, I can't truly see the need for it...? 🤔 And the fact they haven't been charged with treason for their election-rigging attempts of various kinds does my head in too, esp. when you consider how significantly their actions contributed to the further treason & actual death in the Jan 6 Capitol riots?

[@MrTheAngryLlama]

It's not surprising though. They have 100% taken aim at so many because they want people to flip. It's pretty standard for RICO, let the little fish go to get them to flip on the big fish.

[@alexthewrecker4666]

Still can't get over how part of the punishment is writing a letter 😭

[@carolbaker2773]

@@alexthewrecker4666 Its a way to get them to publicly (and on the record) admit that they are guilty. So if they go to FOX and try to say "haha I didnt mean it" the court can point to it as evidence and reinstate the charges. Think of it as a verbal leash of sorts so the fact that Jenna went up and talked about how its not actually her fault since she had to trust a more seasoned lawyer is a slap in the face. Girl you passed the bar and you are an adult, there is no excuse to blame others for your actions.

[@ouch1011]

I love how her main argument that “any reasonable person” would know she was lying, yet the vast majority of Trump supporters 10000% believe what she has said. What does that say about Trump supporters?

[@gagaplex]

"Deplorables are unreasonable"?

[@lillysmith6123]

Yes, her argument was "Trump supporters are idiots."

[@starsalign9336]

@ouch1011 I know. The whole thing is just massively bizarre (“no one could possibly have believed my lies, they were too insane”), or the surreality of the fact that millions of Faux viewers STILL believe the nonsense and lies! This stuff just gets more bizarro every day.

[@georgeandrews1394]

​@@magellanthecat Missed the 'no' before 'critical thinking skills'

[@robinkelly1770]

Aaahhh the tUcker cArlson gambit😅

[@DancerVeiled]

"That's a bold claim, do you have anything to support it?" "What, are you working for the enemy or something to make such an accusation?" I'm stunned. Nobody does this. Who does this in an interview? What did she expect would happen? You need to have something to talk about, and if you're not truthful and lying you need to at least think about how you'd do it. I understand why people believe her because it's so unbelievable that someone would defend themselves this way that I can scarcely imagine it's genuine. I guess that's the strategy here?

[@KN-xl6lw]

Der Grosse Luge / The Big Lie

[@ohno9665]

Their punishment is nowhere near equal to the damage they did to this country in my opinion

[@willbxtn]

True, but it's a deliberately light punishment to encourage them and others to plead guilty and turn state's evidence in court.

[@Brafie37]

What damage? Pretty sure the current sniffer in chief is doing significantly more damage than you leftist think Trump did

[@tedioussugar384]

Would you rather they get jailed, or Trump himself does? Because those plea deals mean he’s screwed.

[@anslicht4487]

Exactly. That doesn't mean I disagree with the Fulton Cty decisions, but the punishment arising in that venue is nowhere near full justice.

[@hardlikepotatoe1361]

Some things have changed forever, or at least the rest of our lives.

[@KarasuTheClumsy]

the fact that she got less for trying to subvert our democracy than us "peasants" do for weed is a slap in the face to every single person in this country

[@theDataStudent]

Well it depends, I feel like if her testimony manages to burn the biggest kahuna in this conspiracy, it balances out the lack of punitive measure here, for me its about the balance, if a person commits 2 bad things, but then commits one really good thing, then the bad things, while still happened, are a little less important.

[@ElSantoLuchador]

Move to Washington and you'll get zero time for possessing and smoking weed.

[@AL-lh2ht]

She has like 3 other major court cases and potentially more waiting to be indicted. Plus this is how Rico works. Trump and a few others are the big fish, the small fish turn on them on plea deals.

[@MorlockTrxsh]

@@ElSantoLuchador you may as well be a republican, just telling people to move XD

[@legendofrayquazagaming5125]

Ah yes, America, where the democracy is constantly trying to commit suicide.

[@Susono09]

People have done life for far far less then these clowns. Deeply upsetting that the justice system is so broken.

[@WolfieDawn]

Thank you. I was looking for this. These people have to pay a teeny tiny fine compared to their fortunes and write an apology letter...like they're a particularly misbehaved middle schooler. Meanwhile people who -or extremely petty drug charges - will never see real food or their families again.

[@katanah3195]

​@@WolfieDawnEven when I was a defiant middle schooler (more like undiagnosed and unaccomodated autism caused meltdowns that were then punished as if voluntary misbehaviour), I considered an apology letter a laughable slap on the wrist and was insanely grateful to be assigned one instead of "real" punishment. An apology letter is a slap on the wrist even to the children it's usually considered appropriate punishment for, let alone an adult who committed a serious crime.

[@Jehty_]

What exactly have they done? Don't get me wrong, I know what they done, but I don't see how that would justify prison sentences. Who are the victims of what they did? The US population. And what did these victims suffer? I would argue at most being lied to with the intend to plant mistrust against the government. Don't get me wrong, that's bad. Really bad. But is it prison bad?

[@JNArnold]

​@@WolfieDawnThe entire way the US approaches drugs prohibition is completely insane, no doubt. That said these people are still facing consequences in the other related cases and there will probably still be further legal consequences for them. As mentioned they may well lose their law license, assuming there would even still people people that want to employ them after this. Its not a fair comparison to someone with petty drug charges facing a lifetime sentence, but it is a good deal if it leads to the convictions and/or cooperation from other coconspirators and takes down those at the top.

[@Zomby_Woof]

Blame Garland/Biden. Garland has declined to prosecute Trump over and over. Watching the statute of limitations run out is his favorite past time.

[@thehoodedteddy1335]

It’s very cathartic when you get to correct yourself from calling something alleged in this situation

[@henrytawnn8694]

Very much so. And it's even better that we don't have to say that Donald is an alleged rapist. He's civilly liable for rape. Donald John Trump is a rapist.

[@juances]

I'll never get over her defense "yes I lied but anyone smart would've figured out I was lying so it doesn't count"

[@elora512]

Your Honour, I was being dramatic

[@mchjsosde]

​@@elora512It was a prank, your honor.

[@acanada0]

Your Honor, see these tears? These are white woman tears, each one is good for a year in prison I think?

[@apinakapina]

We have a similar case... One of my countrymen is a pretend expert. When confronted his explanation was like "yes I lied in Russian national television, but they're savvy people. They understand that I was just telling complete lies about Finland."

[@klisterklister2367]

​@@apinakapinawas it about the border fence between Finland and Russia?

[@flintcityhc1524]

Her deal says no contact with the media but she immediately went on a rant about she was coerced into her agreement and stuff. Lock her up?

[@WolfieDawn]

But she's rich. And that makes her better than the rest of us plebians.

[@MistaEmPe]

She did? When? Where?

[@adrianayo6624]

😂😂😂Damn y’all want blood.

[@brown_recluse_human3458]

Considering they tried to overturn elections, you're goddamn right @@adrianayo6624

[@MrClickity]

​@@adrianayo6624not blood, accountability

[@eleven0624]

A rich lady has to pay $6k and say I'm sorry... for attempting to subvert democracy, but we'll give a dude with an ounce of weed 20 years in prison. We're screwed.

[@ceriseauthor7155]

One of the strategies used to suppress a population is spreading despondency. Do not fall for it.

[@eleven0624]

Just to remind you, attempting to subvert democracy was STEALING FROM THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE VOTING IN THE ELECTION. Massive theft with obscene results if they succeeded. But 'say you're sorry' is supposed to be enough.

[@Nixeu42]

Who got that sentence, though? I've been trying to find evidence for this number, but all I keep finding is 5-10 years for possession.

[@anodosarcade7355]

They are above the law

[@asheronwindspear552]

​@@Nixeu42 there are people in prison serving sentences for possession of pot in states that have legalised it for years.

[@humanbeing2420]

Jenna Ellis's statement to the court was nauseating. She faulted herself for accepting the obviously false factual claims of the other attorneys at face value and said she should have done more due diligence.....Please....

[@chaze3dragon]

Worst part is, all that probably wont do anything to convince the supporters that maybe, just maybe, they could be wrong

[@orngjce223]

The "apology letter" is a complete admission of guilt, in writing, made as a public statement, so that there is no way for her to turn around and say she didn't admit it or she wasn't serious or she was taken out of context or whatever other argument one could make. That has value.

[@GrunkleKronk]

The "write an apology letter" part of the sentences is so ridiculous. Are they middle schoolers? Adults should get adult punishments

[@noname7271]

Adult punishments are only for the peasants. They are of the American upper caste. How dare you?

[@JFrostyG]

it is because it is part of the deal they stop making there life a living hell and all they have to do is lie and write an apology letter for something the did not do and even if they did they should be the only ones in the wrong be cause trump only pays them to get the job done if they did it illegally that is on them not trump as they are there own person he did not order them how to get the job done just to get it done so if a crime has been done it is they went and did it on there own not because trump said to do a crime and if any of it was true why now why not when his enemies had the upper hand as it would have 9.999999/10 times worked

[@ScarlettCatte]

@@JFrostyG That's a whole lotta words to admit that you didn't watch the video.

[@andrewfetter4843]

​@ScarlettCatte ah yes the 6 years of probation is such a punishment....

[@ScarlettCatte]

@@andrewfetter4843 I didn't say that it was a serious punishment or anything like that...

[@TheIronDonkey]

Jenna Ellis frustrates me because she she has these big crocodile tears in her apology video, but her mugshot shows that she was gleeful to be part of this attempted coup.

[@albertmagician8613]

It is good that she cried. That should elderly, evangelicals Christians rethink the great lie.

[@randomdude5938]

Her apology was bs too. She took no responsibility for what she did.

[@vercoda9997]

​@banquetoftheleviathan1404She smiled knowing she was guilty. That's a psychopath, and here you are, justifying that.

[@stevenpike7857]

But she's a "Chreeeestian." I can't stand it when people wear their religion on their sleeves for political reasons.

[@DolphinInTheWoods]

​@@stevenpike7857You beat me to it. Those types make me physically ill. 🤢

[@Pieceofcandy]

It's wild that part of her punishment isn't that she has to appear on multiple news networks and admit to what she did and trying to downplay it should result in fines/jail time.

[@anna_in_aotearoa3166]

100%😡 When you spread this much disinformation that lead to public divisiveness, ill-informed voting and actual violence, surely part of the sentence should include a) A gag order on trying to further reiterate or compound those lies, on pain of jail time, and b) An obligation to make a statement in all the platforms you used before, admitting all the supposed conspiracies you uncovered were actually just a smokescreen for internal fraud efforts within your own cabal? Otherwise, the damage from all their lying never goes away and simply continues to poison the well of public discourse! There's the question of libel and slander too, surely - all those false accusations of tampering she previously made against innocent parties seem to have no further consequences? If I was the smart-ballot firm she libeled, I'd completely be prepping to sue her *ss off!!

[@willkoestner4159]

As satisfying as that type of punishment would be for some people at some times? Compelled public speech to any degree is probably just a count down to modern struggle sessions. Idk if I wanna take that gamble to set the record straight. I think we gotta count on a well informed populace. Therefore, well😂

[@stevenwoodward5923]

@@willkoestner4159 The prosecutor, does have the power to revoke the plea agreement at any time, for violating a court order.

[@CalebTerryRED]

I think compelled speech would be a terrible precedent for court verdicts, and would probably be against the first amendment, but in a plea deal it would be voluntary, and would be totally valid

[@Dekubud]

I agree. It should have been done to Alex Jones and to any liar with a platform. And they should have to do it on their own platform if they have one as well.

[@grayaj23]

Powell, an attorney, using that "no reasonable person would have believed me" as a defense, has disgraced the profession. I can live with her not getting jail time, but she needs to be disbarred.

[@behrensf84]

100 hours of community service is too little. Since he’s a Harvard lawyer, he should work for 3000 hours as a public defender… that would be valuable

[@michaelmartinek7408]

God no, that's unfair to anyone she has to represent. She is an awful lawyer.

[@behrensf84]

@@michaelmartinek7408 Sidney Powell might be a stretch, but Chesboro is smart enough to represent someone fighting a traffic ticket…

[@willbxtn]

I suppose a big part of the "restitution to society" here is giving evidence against the bigger fish.

[@explosiver]

@@willbxtn Being able to take down Trump who has a large and dangerous influence on the stability of the nation is definitely more important than punishing a couple lawyers harder. They'll probably get smashed anyway when other charges come up or the BAR revokes their licenses.

[@Nixeu42]

@@michaelmartinek7408 That's...definitely a fair point. Seriously, who would want these bozos as their public defender?

[@simonpaul1296]

I don’t understand how some of them plead guilty and then made public statements that downplay what they plead guilty to in the first place. It seems like that should be contempt of the court or something.

[@williamknox6648]

That is precisely what that is

[@sherib5752]

Before these please were entered in court, the prosecutors got full statements on video and audio and paper. The Kraken Lady will be shown as the mendacious seditionist she is. The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

[@magicball3201]

Welcome to America. Where this shitstorm has 3 years to resolve since Biden won, when back from 2016 we knew Trump was a sore loser and would raise hell when he lost

[@Ramonesaehs]

The courts are not taking it as seriously as it should.

[@Jinkypigs]

Sadly your justice system is a joke at times... way too often

[@m181404]

One of the things thats always bugged me: if its all been rigged/faked then why only challenge swing states? Wouldnt you challenge all of them?

[@Heydad956]

I think you're onto something, chief

[@the_last_ballad]

Why start insisting that its rigged 6 months before it even took place, and then only take actions that make it less secure?

[@Nixeu42]

Why insist that they overturn some votes and not others? Plenty of people who voted for Biden also voted for Republican congresspeople, but Trump only wanted the presidential votes overridden.

[@Lord_of_Dread]

@@the_last_ballad This is a common conservative tactic. Say its rigged in advance, then if it goes your way, conveniently forget how you insisted it was rigged. Nigel Farage did the same thing around the UK brexit vote.

[@vincentmillette7584]

I'm no lawyer, but legally speaking, American law generally requires the plaintiff to prove that they were harmed by the defendant's actions. If your opponent tried to rig an election against you but failed, then the government could still hit them with criminal charges, but a civil lawsuit would be tossed out as a waste of the court's time.

[@dragonhawk00]

Fines should be percentages of yearly income or personal assets at this point. $20,000 in charges would be extremely rough on me in my normal job. For these politicians, they'll laugh about their $20,000 fine over their $10,000 meal and beverage while wearing $100,000 in jewelry and clothing.

[@animeartist888]

At the very least, it should scale based on the tax bracket you fall into.

[@dragonhawk00]

@animeartist888 that was my initial thought but getting their taxable income down is like an Olympic sport for them, it likely wouldn't be hard to get the fines down

[@burculuks]

So these people don't go to jail for inciting a coup, but people are locked up for life for marijuana possession?

[@dbatteries1]

A coup?

[@Spugler2]

@@dbatteries1yeah, a coup

[@TheDiazDarkness]

​@@dbatteries1Jan 6

[@BritInvLvr]

@@dbatteries1yeah, rhymes with poo.

[@freyamiles3718]

​@@dbatteries1Yeah the P is silent. It's spelt weirdly

[@PrinceVegeta2134567]

I love how every time someone was Trump's area of influence get sued, they throw their followers under the bus by saying "any reasonable normal person would realize we were capping and yapping your Honor" 😂😂

[@anonnomouse7381]

This defence was first made popular by MSNBC host Rachel Maddow.... not exactly a Trump supporter, and definitely not right wing.

[@n8pls543]

@@anonnomouse7381 Not right wing, but by her own words, in agreement with Eisenhower-era Republicans. Shows how far that party has slid into crazy-town since then.

[@anonnomouse7381]

@n8pls543 my point is both sides use it its not a republican thing

[@Liz-kj2jj]

@@anonnomouse7381I don’t think OP was saying it’s only republicans, just that it’s been used multiple times by people who peddled lies about the 2020 election. But also Fox News is known for using that argument repeatedly

[@CRneu]

@@anonnomouse7381 She wasn't the first to use this defense. Also, one side uses it a lot more. Conservative media relies on this argument on a daily basis. It's like saying, "Democrats have broken the law so you can ignore that republicans break the law 5x more." It doesn't quite make sense to ignore the amount of crimes.

[@Morbacounet]

Can someone block those annoying bots spamming the Amazon scam ?

[@p.strobus7569]

YT can but won’t without a lot of reports.

[@Jinkypigs]

Keep reporting them. Including the scammy youtube ads

[@cybrfriends5089]

Trump then: "I'm going to surround myself with only the best and most serious people." Trump now: "I have never heard, seen, or spoken to those people."

[@Antikia]

I love that Powells defense is "well obviously I was lying lol you really that stupid"

[@ktvindicare]

That was Tucker Carlson's defense and Alex Jones too. It turns out, you are not allowed to just go on TV and whip half the country into a riot and get away with it. I guess as long as what they were doing was "harmless" they were ok, but the minute January 6th happened everything changed. These people lying have had serious tangible repercussions in the real world and now they have to pay for it.

[@leonardmccreary121]

Like trump .

[@anna9072]

I’d like to hear some commentary on Powells post-pleading statements continuing to claim that the election was still rigged.

[@steveaustin2686]

I would like to, as I'm curious if she could violate her plea deal. Does that mean she goes back on trial? Or do they just apply the full charges to her guilty plea?

[@DolphinInTheWoods]

​@@steveaustin2686I'd like to know that, too. The legal world can get so confusing.

[@derekstein6193]

Most likely a Contempt of Court charge.

[@idolhandz3946]

In other words, no consequences for them whatsoever. Write an apology note to the people of Georgia? Is this a joke? In the future when they do this, they’ll know subverting an election & you’ll have to write a sorry note. Justice.

[@denimvelvet4670]

Who knew defrauding an election was equivelent topassing around a nasty note about your teacher?

[@TheFinalChapters]

Out of over a dozen conspirators, a few of them are getting more lenient deals. This is common with RICO cases, as without a few flips it would be very hard to get the necessary evidence to convict both the small fish and the big fish. You can expect the sentences to get worse and worse as more plead guilty.

[@tregoboing]

The main thing the prosecutor wants is them spilling all in court on the big fish. Its worth letting them go for that.

[@idolhandz3946]

@@TheFinalChapters I watched the entire video. Is it your opinion Donald Trump and the higher conspirators on the ladder will get worse sentences? If yes, that would be some justice. Do you think that they’re going to sentence a former potus to jail? I’m guessing not. It will be slaps on the wrists all around.

[@TheFinalChapters]

@@idolhandz3946 I believe we are watching history here. How that history ends we can only speculate right now. All I can say is when you aim for the king, you'd best not miss.

[@vanessawhite2084]

Of course Fox viewers would think "telling the truth" is a "betrayal" 😂

[@thefisherking78]

It tracks 😂🎉

[@Qba86]

I mean it kinda is, from a mobster perspective. They're only telling the truth to save their asses. And don't get me wrong, I'm glad that they are, but it doesn't mean they are any less of horrible people than they were before taking the deal.

[@Ausfailia]

When fox falls victim to its own work lol

[@empdisaster10]

The one time fox did the right thing and told the truth, their viewers abandoned the station. Shows how much they were really just there for the station to agree with their beliefs over actually tell news

[@LeBonkJordan]

@@Ausfailia This, actually. They're starting to realize that all their years of nurturing fascist audiences are coming back to bite them, because unless they keep playing to the crowd, they're gonna get torn apart. Similar things happening to right-wing KZbinrs.

[@jasonruys2298]

Seeing Trump finally see some repercussions for all the stuff he's done is excellent, thank you for this "series"!

[@Leith_Crowther]

Not yet. But that comes later.

[@ejonp]

I'll agree when he actually sees some repercussions. That hasn't happened yet.

[@FutureMartian97]

Unfortunately this is as far as its going to go. He'll never see jail time.

[@avacadomangobanana2588]

@@ejonpbro is about to lose his business empire

[@ejonp]

@@avacadomangobanana2588 First of all, that hasn't happened yet. Second, so what? His "empire" is mostly smoke and mirrors anyway. Let's say they take away his business and all his money. He can still live in luxury for the rest of his life off the largesse of rich sycophants. He can literally go to any city in the country and ask if anyone a spare mansion he can use and people will line up to lend him one. Ditto private plane and helicopter rides. Do you think Trump ever picks up the check when he goes to dinner? Face it, the only meaningful consequence for Trump would be jail time, and I don't see that happening.

[@memecity9849]

They had to cut a deal while the deals were still hot. Talking all that crap on TV doesn't hold the same weight as in court

[@kimberley1449]

Yes in court they are under oath

[@the_last_ballad]

And yet some people will belive their public statements over their oathsworn ones...

[@RFLTools]

Many of these people, in addition to federal/state charges, have civil suits against them. Pleading guilty must weigh heavy on those civil cases. I would be really interested in hearing a LegalEagle take on the implications to the civil cases.

[@chrisschack9716]

A few months back, Legal Eagle showed up on a WIRED video that discussed, among other things, the difference between pleading guilty and pleading "no contest". The point arose that a guilty plea makes a civil case on the same charges pretty much a slam dunk due to the greater burden of proof required.

[@hugegamer5988]

@@chrisschack9716 it’s only a slam dunk if democracy is upheld and America does not fall.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

I can hear the answer in LE voice: it depends.

[@xger21]

If they plead guilty in a criminal case and the claims/facts are the same, then the civil case is essentially over. The other side could probably win on summary judgment.

[@RyanHarris77]

If memory serves, the only reason Trump didn’t move forward with trying to seize voting machines is because people on his cabinet swore to resign if he did.

[@Dekubud]

Yup! And I do believe that the US never having had a monarchy and thus not having monarchy loyalists in the Republican Party is the main reason why it hasn't become a dictatorship.

[@TheEvertw]

They weren't his to seize. There might have been a battle as feds tried to steal state property. So I doubt his orders would have been carried out.

[@jlev1028]

​@@DekubudYou forgot the legend that is Joshua Abraham Norton, first Emperor of the United States. :P

[@Sandhoeflyerhome]

Said sarcastically, yet it's true, the plea deals reached will result in no criminal action or record. In one case a massive fine of just $6000 I would take that deal rather than run a long expensive court case running into millions of dollars, it just a fact of the corrupt American broken legal system in action plea deal happen when the case against is weak. Notice nobody has been charged with insurrection ... ever .. like it never happened and explains how Nancy was pissed off the full video records from jan 6th were released totally screwing her narrative ' this was an attack on our democracy' utter joke, the police held open the doors like a tour party guide??

[@keiyakins]

​@@jlev1028 Who, weirdly, is mostly revered by leftists in my experience.

[@civil_villain]

I'm only 4 minutes in, and there's *A LOT* of Trump loyalists who have got to be screaming at their devices right now...

[@dbatteries1]

Y?

[@greg5775]

Sheep aren't very smart.

[@sinisterdesign]

​@robertnope1993Right. Why would they willingly encounter information that runs counter to their desires? Better to stay in their little propaganda bubbles and avoid any chance of experiencing cognitive dissonance.

[@zombieregime]

@@sinisterdesign I honestly cant tell which side you're talking about.... Because both sides do that.... And neither admit to it. Its hilarious......ly depressing.

[@warmage247]

​@@zombieregimecame for this comment. The spectrum of hypocrisy is depressing

[@monsterfurby]

The problem (or perhaps the good thing) with selfish and immoral people is that they will inevitably turn on each other. That's how every criminal organization in history crumbled.

[@doclewis8927]

It irritates me that they completely disregard the FACT that the paper ballots were hand-counted in ALL of the "contested" states. It's just annoying that they completely ignore FACTS.

[@Bout_TreeFiddy]

It's not a lie... if you believe it.

[@tracychristenson177]

@@Bout_TreeFiddy I think that's what Trump supporters bank on, that if they claim to believe something, people must treat them as is they were being honest about that belief and that everyone will be obligated to "respect" their belief, act as if what they claim is true because they "believe" it, give them everything they want because of their "belief", and excuse everything they do. But, lying about what you honestly believe or saying that you believe something that you must reasonably know is false because you've already been presented with evidence of its falseness is still a lie.

[@dougsmith6346]

But those paper ballots that got counted were illegal ballots: no signatures, dead voters, duplicates, fake names…..

[@WyvernYT]

If they cared about facts they wouldn't be Trump supporters.

[@arturoaguilar6002]

@@Bout_TreeFiddy Irrelevant. Reality exists even when no one believes in it.

[@tieegg]

In the same breath, she said "Ill take responsibility" and "it wasnt my fault". Clown tier

[@luck9837]

The saddest thing is that the evidence is right in front of them but trumpies will still refuse to see it

[@Aaron.Thomas]

Evidence means nothing to them. Why would they bother? They can't be convinced by evidence even if they did understand it.

[@GlennTillema]

Realize that Trumps team cheated really hard and still lost; in their minds the only way they could have lost would be if the Democrats had cheated even harder! The actual vote results must be imaginary in their brains.

[@Cakemagic1]

The way they see it, they 100% trust that Trump is innocent. And that the whole thing is rigged against him.

[@noname7271]

Scientologists cannot be swayed by facts. They continue to believe in the cult because that's how cults work.

[@ShyitFard69]

I'm a "trumpie" and this kind of evidence foes make me feel bit skeptical, though I need to see even more I'm the future to really affect my opinion on it. I believe in innocence until proven guilty.

[@newmoon766]

I believe Ellis feels deep remorse. For getting caught. Somebody should ask her if she'd do it again if she thought she'd get away with it.

[@gagaplex]

Exactly, same goes for the rest. They think they are entitled to destroy democracy and cheat for their Dear Leader Trump.

[@bullpup1337]

she will lie about that, too

[@newmoon766]

Probably. 😏@@bullpup1337

[@gwine9087]

In the case of Powell, she is, now, saying that she was forced to plead. And Ellis is out there spewing more misinformation. So, WTF good are these deals?

[@erisgh0sted961]

Some prosecutors are saying that's a violation of those plea orders. Meaning the government may decide to resend their offer. If they keep on, and that becomes their public msg. They'll just take it back.

[@scottholder4431]

Because Jenna Ellis's "apology" to the court was a down right lie, she should get a stiffer punishment. She wasn't just relying on what other attorney's told her.

[@rheydt9006]

Jenna ellis lied right as she took the plea deal. She knew the allegations were false and is blaming other people. She deserves to get her charges reinstated.

[@eldibs]

The lawyers want to get out because they understand that sometimes on a sinking ship there aren't enough lifeboats for everyone. Get the plea deals while you can, rats! Also, I hate the "no reasonable person" argument. We aren't worried about the reasonable people, we're worried about what the unreasonable ones will see and hear!

[@caerdwyn7467]

Jesus. Powell is getting no jail time, while shoplifters get months or years. This is how guillotines get invented.

[@circlePulse]

Man, I wish I knew about the Eagle Team last time I was in a plea deal for subverting democracy.

[@JasonBoyce]

Sidney Powell legitimately screwed EVERYONE in this case 😂 Kenneth Chesebro requested a speedy trial to try to get ahead of conspiracy charges (after all, it would be hard to prove he was in a ‘conspiracy’ by himself), but Powell screwed him over by requesting a speedy trial as well, getting tied with Chesebro as part of the conspiracy. Then, when Scott Hall pleaded guilty, Powell was under pressure herself since he was working for her. When Powell flipped, Chesebro was screwed, because Powell was going to testify against him, so he flipped. Then Jenna Ellis flipped because she could see the deals were coming off the table. ALL OF THIS is because Powell decided to jump on the “speedy trial” bandwagon. 😂

[@starsalign9336]

Not really. They, Powell and Chesebro, got off with incredibly lenient sentences. Chesebro should thank Powell, because he was at a level where he would have likely been sentenced to a stint in prison if this had gone to trial. He got off easy. He and Powell should have served jail time, but, because they made deals so early on, before the lower tiers did, they got especially lenient sentences.

[@Maoka08]

Cheese-bro

[@JasonBoyce]

@@starsalign9336 What I’m saying is that Chesebro probably thought he had a *much* better case until Powell got suited up to go to trial with him, and then flipped on him. She may have saved him by getting him to plea out, but guaranteed he’s not going to be happy testifying against Trump, and I’d bet good money he really wanted to go to his trial alone to help Trump and his buddies get a pre-look at Fani Willis’ case before they go up against her.

[@CommonSense1776US]

Wha??! This makes no sense. Nobody "flipped" on anybody. They both asked for speedy trials at the same time. That forced the DA to have to try them ahead of everybody else which in and of itself is a problem for the DA. Risk previewing the case, risk adverse rulings, waste time etc. So they decided they wanted them gone! That's why they were offered sweatheart plea deals and all walked away unscathed. There is not even a conviction on even the lower charges they "plead". It is like a traffic court plea. Take the safe driver course, pay fine, no guilty judgement, not on your record. All it costed them was the humiliation of an apology and a small fine.

[@CommonSense1776US]

@@JasonBoyce In order to "flip" the charges and conduct have to have relevancy to somebody else's charges and conduct. There is no overlap between the two. And the charges they each ultimately plead were not even connected to the main case or to each other in any way. This is the DA try to avoid trials ahead of the others. And perhaps also an admission that the case is not particularly strong....prosecutors with solid cases do not typically offer sweatheart deals a day before jury selection!

[@ValdestotsVoice]

Let There Be Justice for all and charges for those that committed crimes!

[@The88Cheat]

@banquetoftheleviathan1404 .... uh... that's a bit much.

[@concealit4800]

I mean it is hard to believe a 200 year old man won the election.. Guy has fallen down so much he needs life alert

[@Digger-Nick]

Unless they're democrat, because that's (D)ifferent

[@jellywillreturn]

@@The88CheatDante said that traitors earned the lowest circle of Hell, with traitors against their nation being in the second ring of that lowest circle. Just some historical precedent.

[@josephtallerson893]

It's ok if the demoncrats break the laws and rules.@@Digger-Nick

[@Jay-hd3uy]

immediately after her plea agreement Powel went on air and said that she was coerced into the plea. Can she get in trouble for that?

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

I think she was coerced. coerce = "to force or compel, as by threats, to do something" says Collins online dictionary The threat was that she was going to go to jail if she didn't sing like a canary.

[@angelmendez-rivera351]

@@alwaysdisputin9930Being told you are going to jail isn't coercion.

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

@@angelmendez-rivera351_"Being told you are going to jail isn't coercion."_ I didn't say it was. I'm saying using the threat of jail to force Powell into a plea deal is an example of coercion. Perhaps you don't know what "coercion" means or perhaps you're using a different definition to the one I stated? coerce = "to force or compel, as by threats, to do something" says Collins online dictionary

[@arlokloiber2715]

Man i paid more for a summary charge in pennsyvania as a teenager than this full grown adult, rich ,intentionally misleading, person in a position of authority . And i didnt cause a national divide with my bs. U.S. justice at its finest

[@Nixeu42]

That's just how plea deals work, my guy. You take a lighter sentence in exchange for testimony against another person.

[@arlokloiber2715]

@@Nixeu42 im aware of the legal function, just pointing out the obvious disparity between a mistake altering the course of my life and a intentional incitement of national proportions receiving a lighter punishment than the legal equivalent of a slap on the wrist for a minor

[@Nixeu42]

@@arlokloiber2715 I mean...if, as a teenager, you had evidence that could literally get an ex-president out into prison, you'd probably be able to skip prosecution for that crime entirely. Or even if you could help testify to convict someone of a particularly nasty felony. Not trying to downplay what you went through, mind. As someone who also had the direction of his life altered by an incident that happened when I was a teen (chronic illness, not a crime, but still), I can totally understand your being sore about it. Hell, I think Powell should have gotten punished worse than she was, plea bargain notwithstanding. But it's still logical, if a bit of a bitter pill to swallow..

[@arlokloiber2715]

@@Nixeu42 i dont see how logically the application of " justice" should be inflexible, like for an example of what i mean. For instance if like in certain european countries you recieved a speeding ticket and had an income level that placed you near the poverty line then lets say its a fine of 100 dollars thats still a punishment , but if you were a millionaire 100 dollars is pocket change and you can keep causing harm so long as you have a bank account big enough to tank the hit. So instead they scale that fine to the person so they get charged 1000 instead. Maybe im explaining this poorly but its a bit like getting spanked as a kid , if that was the baseline punishment but never changed after a few years it stops being effective because an adult can take much more, so in this hypothetical as the person becomes an adult the implement of punishment should change ,per se, a large paddle so its actually a punishment and the action will be less likely repeated. So fiscal spanking needs an upgrade to be effective

[@Nixeu42]

@@arlokloiber2715 I'm...not sure why you think I'm saying that the application of fines shouldn't scale with one's general worth, though I can actually see issues if you make it net worth (which includes non-liquid assets that can't easily be sold at their theoretical "value") instead of how much free cash someone has...though I can also see issues if you don't. Seems like a tricky line to walk. Also, I am more than a little concerned about that corporal punishment analogy, honestly. That's...not really where why mind would have gone.

[@generalizedidiocy3040]

How can Trump have friends, acquaintances, co-conspirators if he doesn't know anyone? I mean he just skips through life without meeting any other person (ever).

[@SGCSmith]

He skips all the cutscenes. :)

[@DolphinInTheWoods]

I know. It's mind-blowing that his supporters just accept it when he makes those claims.

[@Vohlfied]

Even if everyone else leaves him he can go back to dating his daughter.

[@angelainamarie9656]

What a shame nobody ever got to stand outside her trial with a big sign that said 'release the Kraken!'

[@chrisschack9716]

or "DON'T release the Kraken!"

[@DolphinInTheWoods]

For real.😅😅😅

[@viandengalacticspaceyards5135]

No need to remind her, she's still entangled in it. Whole show went up the kraken.

[@sallyfoxboro1902]

YES!!!!😂

[@PeteOtton]

Civil Trials?

[@Lowlandlord]

I still can't believe Chesebro is a real name, for someone from Wisconsin no less.

[@denverarnold6210]

He missed his calling.

[@leeboy26]

Like someone from Silicon Valley called Techbro.

[@alexanderradkee376]

The fact she has she to read off of a paper with crocodile tears proves how sincere she is.

[@Sc1Z]

I hate to say it and many of you wont like it but there WAS an algorithm that gave votes to Biden, it was called "the voters" :D

[@dbatteries1]

2 wars, gas is at 5$ a gallon, 4 thousand illegals coming through the border a day many being on the fbi watch list, and possible ww3. Hows that going?

[@ericwilliams1659]

@@dbatteries1 Can you find some new strawmen to attack?

[@hugegamer5988]

I don’t understand because Al Gore rhythms would obviously be for democrats. /s

[@elizabethsohler6516]

Well stated.

[@GreatBigBore]

Although I understand the reasons for Sidney Powell not getting any prison time, I am appalled that our justice system works this way. It's not justice.

[@christams8863]

True, but these are just small fries! We are after the big one!

[@evilchipmunk4090]

imagine someone thinking, I want the BEST lawyer available! ...and then thinking, Sidney Powell! this was a possibility, until recently. now, EVERYONE knows that she is a charlatan and a liar-for-hire (who can't be hired anymore, because of her lies).

[@Icematt12]

​@christams8863 Powell sounds like mid tier since she was referred to as a Lieutenant. I wouldn't say small fry but certainly there's bigger fish to catch.

[@starsalign9336]

It does seem like a bad sign that these guys got off without any jail time. Who are the bigger fry? Obviously, Rump bit maybe !eadows and Giuliani? If they let Giuliani and Meadows and all the rest go without jail time we may be seeing no jail time for anyone. Sickening indeed. It seems that these “lieutenants “ should have at least had to serve a few months. This sends a bad message to all. And worse, foot soldiers who believed all these lieutenants’ lies go to prison, some for a very long time.

[@MrKlswe]

Prison for what?

[@reverendsteveii]

My favorite part of this is how much of it took place over text. If you're gonna do a criminal conspiracy, try not to leave multiple copies of all your communications laying around several dozen servers. Stringer Bell would not approve.

[@TheXTVproductions]

I used to be a poll worker for about 10 years in Indiana, and at my station we were a heavily populated area so we had two check in stations with one of "each party" on the stations as well as one of each party as officers supervising. And a person of one party who handled all the calls and stuff between our station and polling office. With each voter scanning their own ballot at the station. Then after the collection of ballots by 2 of each party into the security bags which had a specific tag number that had to match up to what was noted upon the distribution of the ballots, etc. then one of each party (usually the supervisor and the opposite party officer) to deliver the ballots to the office where there was a bipartisan ballot count and compared against the electronic scan of the ballots at the station to make sure everything matched up. There are safeguards upon safeguards to prevent tampering.

[@MaydayAggro]

Except this didn't happen everywhere.

[@tigioma3761]

@@MaydayAggro: Yep. In those places where they tried to perpetuate "The Big Lie" that DJT actually won.

[@shannonlawhorn1674]

My hot take is that the people who have pleaded out have been the ones with the most exposure to the criminal justice system, 3 lawyers and a bail bondsman. These are the ones who understand what is at stake and, at least in the case of the lawyers, how strong the case is against them. Honestly if I was a defendant here and the lawyers start accepting plea deals, you better believe my butt would be down at the prosecutor's office first thing in the morning with a box of Starbucks coffee and a couple dozen doughnuts ready to sing like a canary.

[@13realmusic]

This made me realize Sidney Powell has the same speech cadence as Elizabeth Holmes in her interviews which is funny and will now be my way of telling if someone is a pathological liar.

[@ectothermic]

Oh, I can't unhear that now. I wonder if it's a regional thing or an active choice on both ends. o.o

[@CanadianBear47]

good catch i think i would agree.

[@greg5775]

Another sign was her rapid blinking on those clips shown here. Amazing.

[@CanadianBear47]

@@greg5775 over use of eyes or eye blocker are definitely things i look out for.

[@Roncass4]

I think the BAR could remove her license to practice law or she will free to practice bogus law. 🎯⚖️

[@ilfardrachadi2318]

Let her keep practicing, but make "Any reasonable person can tell this is not the truth" be a valid counter argument to anything she presents.

[@T3RD5ify]

I just want to say putting your sponsorships at the end of the video is genius. I’ll actually “watch” through the whole ad while commenting/looking for another video.

[@Moose92411]

It's almost like there are systems in place to encourage citizens not to lie.

[@Bout_TreeFiddy]

Non-enforceable

[@Moose92411]

@@Bout_TreeFiddy at least it's trying. These people pleading guilty is a step

[@PeachM0de]

Trump lost, period. I don’t understand how people can be so naïve.

[@mbush545]

@LazloMortimeramen to that

[@ariessilva]

The people calling others "sheep" are following clowns, charlatans and grifters. You couldn't make this up if you tried lol

[@brodriguez11000]

The hardest person to convince is the one vested in the outcome.

[@NinjaLobsterStudios]

They (as in, the general population) aren't naive. They are targets of misinformation orchestrated by groups with political interests. There are many factors that affect why a person will engage in conspiratorial thinking. But often the underlying need is the same: that person has a specific world view, and the conspiracy theory is what would have to be correct for their world view to also be correct.

[@LogjammerDbaggagecling-qr5ds]

Fox news should have been dismantled years ago. It's a propaganda channel owned and run by a foreign billionaire with the sole purpose of undermining American politics. That can't actually be legal.

[@Peter-zg3em]

One of the best channels on KZbin. The idea that we can get such high level legal analysis for a thumbs up would have been bananas 20 years ago. Old KZbin was a dude who looked like both 50 cent and Mike Tyson, or a dude in his bedroom eating a whole pack of warheads.

[@bobthegamingtaco6073]

And all of it was recorded on cameras that made GameBoy Video look like 4k lol

[@LastOptionPils]

Seeing Powell accuse an Australian reporter of working for Smartmatic is so surreal.

[@SamuelGeist]

As a broad generalisation, American public figures aren't used to being challenged by reporters. They're used to going on air, saying their piece, having some pre-approved questions gently lobbed their way, then moving on. Watch Andrew Neil (a Scottish journalist and himself very right wing politically) interview Ben Shapiro as an example of different media styles clashing.

[@whocares9033]

Why isn't Ginny Thomas getting charged with anything? She was just as vocal and pushed harder than almost anyone in that whole circle

[@brandywinebridget]

Her husband. They can’t risk the case being appealed to SCOTUS and overturned when Thomas inevitably refuses to refuse himself.

[@bman5257]

@@brandywinebridgetLol you think Justice Thomas wouldn’t recuse himself if his wife was on trial. 😂

[@WyvernYT]

@@bman5257 We've seen other cases where he wouldn't recuse himself.

[@D-Vinko]

@@bman5257 100% Thomas would find some excuse not to recuse himself.

[@bman5257]

@@WyvernYT He recused himself last month when a former clerk was a litigant. Do you seriously think he wouldn’t recuse if his own wife was the defendant? 🤣

[@miral6694]

Even if they were right about "dead people voting," the critical statistic to keep in mind the US that in the us ~9.3k people die every day. So... yes, there are many people who die after casting their ballots but before they're counted. ~1-3k for same-day voting, and tens of thousands for early voting.

[@Vohlfied]

There _were_ documented votes cast for dead relatives, but they were all republican, so T×××× lost _despite_ the fraud not because of it.

[@Shae_Sandybanks]

I've worked in several elections (in NZ, not the US though) and the people all working there vary wildly in their political beliefs, as they should. Being passionate about elections is not something reserved for any side of the political map. The thought that all these different people would help in changing the votes from one party to another is absurd.

[@alimfuzzy]

Its sad at how small the plea deal sentences were. I hope dominion is still able to sue them for the millions they said.

[@bapctech1]

Fines and probation is crazy for the level of treason these people tried to attempt

[@ignitionfrn2223]

2:35 - Chapter 1 - Powell's role in the georgia election case 7:55 - Eagleteam 8:25 - Chapter 2 - The charges against Powell & her plea deal 10:05 - Chapter 3 - Why did powell plead guilty ? 11:45 - Chapter 4 - Scott hall pleads guilty 13:15 - Chapter 5 - Ken chesebro pleads guilty 14:30 - Chapter 6 - How good were these plea deals 18:25 - Back to LE 22:25 - End roll ads

[@elektraeriseros]

You are a wonderful person. I hope you're having a good day!

[@ladyeowyn42]

I miss legal eagle doing most of the video.

[@CheckersMcGavern]

Even after the trial is over, and everyone is in jail... I get the feeling we'll still be finding new layers to all of this for *years* to come.

[@Zeldrake]

I don't think everyone will get in jail :(

[@WhyWhatWhoWhenWhyAgain]

The videos you and your team produce are excellent quality, very pleasant to listen to. Great voices, very well spoken, informed, and subtle humor. Thank you very much to everyone involved.

[@cyndrigaming]

Ellis' apology sounds like one a 10yr old would make after getting caught cheating on a test at school or bullying another kid lol

[@katanah3195]

I know, I can almost hear elementary school me saying "An older boy made me do it".

[@tracychristenson177]

I'd be willing to bet that Jenna Ellis was exactly that kind of ten-year-old. She's probably gotten away with this kind of thing her whole life, since childhood, and that's why she has trouble comprehending and accepting that she's doing something wrong.

[@luciesimpson6437]

The tearful, heartfelt words of someone who just got away with everything by vomiting up a speech slapped-together by someone else. Although it's usually daddy intimidating the principal, not daddy getting dobbed in...

[@Usage-g1c]

Powell is the one that surprised me! She played her crazy role so well I never thought she'd break character and come back to reality to plead guilty.

[@TheResilient5689]

I have an awfully prescient theory that if Trump and/or the other top dogs get duly convicted in any of these cases, they’ll almost certainly book one-way chartered flights to Russia and seek political asylum or something. Let’s hope they get stopped at the border if they actually try pulling this off.

[@greg5775]

I thought all along that Trump will flee the country, He needs to be in prison now, and all his assets frozen.

[@dopesickdog]

oh, they'll get through. They've probably had a coyote on standby for 10 years in case of this

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Let him go. They can do plastic surgery on him to make him look like the next Putin Double.

[@austinestep8461]

A bad part of me wants to say so long as they’re gone but that part is ignoring bringing these people to justice

[@tracychristenson177]

I thought about that with Trump, that he might be a flight risk, but there's a problem: as a former President, he's guarded 24/7 by the Secret Service, and the Secret Service is a law enforcement agency under the Department of Homeland Security. As law enforcement agents, they can't aid and abet a criminal fleeing justice. They have authority over his physical safety, but that authority over his safety gives them a certain amount of control over where he can go or not go. That is, they can actually stop him from going to places that are judged too risky for his physical safety, they can stop him from illegally fleeing, and they have the direct ability to make sure that he safely arrives to every required court date. Although he's being protected, he is also under guard.

[@Wha2les]

They all got off too easy...

[@pakeshde7518]

She and the rest not only be barred from ever holding a government position but on weekly to state the lies they said and how guilty they are. If they really want to have a plea deal they can darn well earn it not cry they were tricked or duped or had a bad day.

[@TheInternetHelpdeskPlays]

Being in the UK, we have our own government problems (look up "election lettuce") but seeing what's happened in the US is so intriguing.

[@Zeldrake]

ahahahahahaha I just looked that up that's HILARIOUS

[@eddyk3]

At least UK politicians resign. Imagine if George Santos was an MP, he'd have been out the door months ago.

[@jamesarnold7253]

The US stuff makes our government look not corrupt at all. No one's ever going to break the law because Sunak loses an election

[@localmenace3043]

Can’t say I feel sorry for them at all. That’s what happens when you try to silence the voices of the people.

[@MrKlswe]

Maybe try putting the shoe on the other foot. There is a reason why people where angry and it was mainly due to the media, big tech and the state coordinating to silencing them.

[@drewpatterson8009]

That's called being a traitor. Why these people aren't being tried for treason is beyond me....

[@DarkOmegaMK2]

Because the US's loyalty is MONEY.

[@death299]

because if they were tried for treason the AGs and any juries/judges would end up having to either let them off, or end up in prison themselves. under the U.S legal system what they did wasn't actually treason, treason is extremely well defined in the U.S system, to an extent that murder and assault are less well defined. it is intentionally extremely hard to commit precisely because kings used to use treason charges against anyone that opposed or spoke badly of them

[@Swiss_femboy]

Because you’re only committing Treason in the US if you help a foreign Power wage War on America. This Channel had an entire Video in treason in the US

[@unsolicitedditkapics9722]

Human society is literally just a popularity contest with a thin veil of rules

[@Ajee02]

​@@DarkOmegaMK2No, because they're trying to get them to testify against the ones that haven't flipped yet

[@fredsnicker]

So now that Sidney Powell has since claimed that her plea deal was supposedly extortion by the prosecution, does she forfeit her deal? If so does that affect the testimony she provided as part of the deal?

[@Bout_TreeFiddy]

There's no law against lying outside the courthouse.

[@IMBlakeley]

As long as she fulfils her agreement to testify against the other scumbags she's probably golden, renege on that and she's toast.

[@daniel8939]

With them pleaing guilty, can Dominion/Smartmatic go after them for the lies?

[@Time_Is_Left]

They have been, for a while, they didn’t need a guilty plea.

[@BritInvLvr]

I would assume that they can because their suit is civil, not criminal.

[@TheResilient5689]

Dominion already did, Smartmatic I think is still doing so.

[@kimberley1449]

It will help them in court against these people like Sidney and Rudy 😂😂😂😂

[@cerebrumexcrement]

smartmatic filed suit a while back. theyre still in the discovery phase. fox will try to settle before they set a court date.

[@TKUltra971]

I've been waiting for this one. This is makes today's lunch break special.

[@Bluestar1079]

What I want to know is did they actually believe the nonsense that they were spewing? This wasn't just some internet post. They were putting their reputation, and careers on the line.

[@AntiKira20]

I believe so. Trump is said to be a highly charismatic man. But I don't buy whatever he's saying right now, seems too sus.

[@HawkeyesPro]

i think its less about belief and more about if you help the dictator get power, your set for life. which is silly cause trump is one of the most ficklest man alive. so i think theyre just idiots when its all said and done

[@AntiKira20]

@@HawkeyesPro Agreed on all points, friend. But I would also make the point that 'dictators' will turn on the people that gave them power in the first place the second they lose said power. And I will not revise my opinion that Trump was trying to turn our Democratic Republic into an Autocracy during his four years of office.

[@Bluestar1079]

@@HawkeyesPro omg thank you. I thought I was the only one that saw that. How are these people So loyal to him when he has shown time and time again that the only person he cares about is named Donald Trump. He will turn on you without a second thought. I hesitate to use it but these people are cult members

[@CPsWalkThroughs]

@@AntiKira20 I don't know how people think he is charismatic. Every time he opens his mouth he is patting himself on the back, praising himself, comparing himself to others stating how and why he is better than them. It's so cringe and childish. Like Trump must not have got a lot of praise growing up or something... How can anyone listen to him speak and NOT think he's a narcissist?

[@nitehawk86]

"letter of apology" It should be a minimum of a decade in prison when they find out they lied about being sorry.

[@FreedInPieces]

FOX News should not be allowed to legally call themselves News anymore, and we need big disclaimers on their programs - similar to how cigarettes are treated in many countries around the world.

[@Jay2JayGaming]

They don't. Legally they claim to be an entertainment program

[@Viper607706]

Like how The onion is also a "news" publication.

[@redkingrauri3769]

@@Jay2JayGaming Sadly that's a myth. They're legally a news network.

[@Brafie37]

As opposed to cnn or msnbc right? Whenever I see them on the TV it's always "trump trump trump"

[@alwaysdisputin9930]

WARNING: Watching Fox reduces blood flow, which can cause erectile dysfunction.

[@xandercorp6175]

Are you telling me that Trump has actually had some swamp-draining effect? Neat.

[@Jude30]

I really want the first question asked of Ellis by the prosecution to be "exactly how stupid are you?".

[@daynajones8180]

I'm so glad I found your KZbin. Love the way everything is explained, making me laugh while listening. Makes me wonder how these lawyers passed the bar.

[@SunflowerDogs]

I have a feeling they didn't but paid their way in as they do with every other aspect or their lives. Sounds like that state BAR needs to be gone through with a fine-tooth comb.

[@MrBrodyjam]

Ellis: Your honor, I am just a silly girl that listened to the big, strong men who are so smart and experienced. This is shameful and so transparent.

[@Avoxalus]

How is this not treason?