When Elon Musk Fought Jack Smith's Search Warrant for Donald Trump

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[@joebidenisyourpresidentget2481]

Can you do an update video on Trumps trial timeline? The trial will start on March 4 2024. If the trial lasts 4-6 weeks, is there any chance Trump and his lawyers can delay it for another 6 months till the election?

[@havok6669]

What about the legal proceedings between Mr. Beast and the ghost kitchen service running his beast burger franchise.

[@brokenglassshimmerlikestar3407]

Talk about Lizzo's situation?

[@ScotMartin]

I would love to see a video on the 303 Creative v Elenis decision with a focus on how the web designer cited a "customer" who apparently did not actually exist. How did that get to the Supreme Court with no one noticing? How does that impact the result? Is this still considered precedent or does it open up new legal avenues?

[@AskMia411]

If you want a break from real life mayhem, I have two “real lawyer reacts” ideas: The movie “Enough” starring Jennifer Lopez. The tagline of the movie is “self defense is not murder”, but I’m pretty sure what she does in the finale is absolutely murder. She plays a battered wife trying to escape her crooked cop husband, taking their daughter with her. A metric TON of laws are broken on either side, plus it would be interesting to hear what legal options are actually available to victims of abuse. Second idea is WAY more lighthearted: The Bluey episode “family meeting”. It’s trial court 101 for kids and does a decent job showing kids how all that works…sorta 😂 there’s plenty of inaccuracies, but it’s a fun little legal romp to take a break from all the trump/real life nonsense. Love your work, you kept me sane through all the election lawsuits 😅 your channel is truly educational and cuts through all the chaos of real world to deliver facts and humor.

[@zedcomicsoriginal7168]

I may just be a simple caveman lawyer, but I think it's a bad sign when a judge admonishes you to read a document more carefully.

[@xger21]

As a lawyer, it's weirdly perplexing to me, I've seen it happen and it's always just a "what were you thinking" moment

[@lordraydens]

your ways frighten me!

[@nitehawk86]

15 minutes into a test, the teacher says "Make sure you read the instructions carefully."

[@samreid6010]

@@nitehawk86even worse when the teacher is walking around the room, looks over your shoulder, sees what you’re writing and then says that

[@ParanoidMarvinMk2]

@@samreid6010 having been that teacher, the urge to sigh in the moment is sometimes overwhelming

[@cullenreeves3108]

As an average American, it is truly baffling the level of disparity that Trump receives in the legal arena versus any ordinary person off the street. I know money goes a long way in this country, but damn.

[@the_last_ballad]

It's also his fan base(including the cultural of personality. And yes, there are people who have worked Trump into their theology) who insist its a witchhunt if Trump isn't given deferential treatment.

[@EdDale44135]

He is also a ex President and the justice department is trying hard not to look like they are proceeding based on politics.

[@AtomikNY]

The criminal justice system goes out of its way to go extra easy on popular political figures. In order to appear apolitical (superficially), they extend all sorts of special considerations to criminal politicians, instead of doing the actual apolitical thing and not considering their political status or aspirations.

[@aircraftcarrierwo-class]

@@EdDale44135 Please. The legal system treated Trump with kid gloves for decades before he even thought of running for office the first time in 2012 as a democrat. It's all money and who he knows and especially who he has dirt on because he saw them during his visits to Epstein's child abuse island.

[@therealjoshuacaleb4873]

@@the_last_ballad that's fine if / when preferential treatment is the same on both sides. All Trump supporters want is unbiased litigation. For example: why isn't hillary in jail for benghazi? Or: why isn't anyone else been jailed for the cluster in afganistan for either side of t he isle? Also: why hasn't anyone been jailed in the past, you all couldn't even put Nixon in jail. If you want to get ticky tacky I can argue that Patton should have been jailed as well for saying that the Nazi's weren't the true enemy. At that point in time that would be considered treasonous to even think about let alone say to the press, which he did in 1945 after the fall of berlin. Some politicians are treated like golden boy teenagers, the rest are treated like black sheep when it comes to legality of actionable offense. Whatever your moral biases are they need to be set aside and a real adult talk had between all americans over exactly what it is the country NEEDS and not what a small group WANTS. If you want it to be fair then in fairness BOTH sides of the isle need audited for corruption. BOTH sides.... good day.

[@tzvikrasner6073]

They seriously tried "no ex-President has ever been tried for crimes before, therefore we cannot comply with the warrant". Every crime had a time where it had never been tried before. That doesn't negate criminal prosecution.

[@RandallJennings]

@@angrypillow3915 I recommend you delete this comment as you should be dragged, rightfully, for it.

[@sodasaintcommentaries4054]

It would not surprise me if Jack Smith personally threatened to have Elon musk arrested for obstruction of justice if he persisted.

[@arty1813]

@@angrypillow3915 Nixon? W. Bush? Cheney? Harding? Clinton? All of them were charged, but never tried or convicted.

[@RedXlV]

@@angrypillow3915 No, he's pointing out that the "no ex-President has ever been tried for crimes before" was a *completely irrelevant* argument.

[@RedXlV]

@@angrypillow3915 Do you like posting without actually saying anything relevant? Because you seem to do that at a lot.

[@Daedalus_Dragon]

To be fair there are like 7 engineers left at Twitter, there’s probably no one left at the company who knows how to comply with a warrant.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

And even if there was one, he most likely will hear about it in news, but not from his boss.

[@jayspeidell]

Imagine the type of lawyers who would stick around while Musk breaks laws left and right.

[@nvelsen1975]

@@jayspeidell It's not hard to imagine: A lawyer needs to do some pretty crazy things before they're considered co-conspirators, and short of that: You're paid every hour you're sitting in that amusing mess. Heck, I'm not even a lawyer and I've had hilarious court sessions where our side concluded with me putting on a veiled insult against the other party, an arrogant lawyer. He then spent his full 20 minutes ranting and raving about me, while the judge's eyes rolled back further and further. Then the clock struck and.... he hadn't actually made an argument. And since he was the demanding party that means he lost by default. Which is good news because he had a decent case and my client had a pretty weak one. Now do I think it's good proper lawfare to call someone a lawbreaker in a court of law? Naah. But for 200 per hour plus VAT I'll happily do it and zone out for a while while the opposing side is losing their sh*t. 😆

[@FighterDoken]

I thought this, too! Nobody knew how to actually put that stuff together to comply and they had to hire an outside contractor :D

[@longforgotten4823]

The companies in ability to understand how to comply is not really the governments problem. Ha ha.

[@soulknife20]

Everyone who swears up and down Elon is a genius, really needs to take a step back and look at his behaviour.

[@GamesFromSpace]

Cults gotta cult.

[@AceMoonshot]

Amber Heard... after Depp! Pure Genius.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox2270]

@@OminousheatElon has never created anything, just always taken others credit.

[@NexxtTimeDontMiss]

Um no, that’s not even the play, it’s WELL documented that people with higher IQ are less “normal” typically messy and the like , you getting his actual autism mixed up with IQ is a red flag yikes

[@billc5433]

I think he's a bit of a maniac. And yes, he made lots of money by investing in some up and coming companies, but he's no engineer. His "brilliant" ideas include a crappy tunnel in Las Vegas and a rocket that was too heavy.

[@alanepithet2931]

I love the fact that Twitter tried to cite its disclosure policy as legal precedent for alerting Trump to the warrant, while ignoring the fact that its own policy precludes the exact situation they were arguing by citing the exact legal code being levied against them. That 'unless we are prohibited from doing so (e.g., an order under 18 U.S.C. 2705(b)' is incredibly hilariously damning. Truly, the best legal team ever.

[@Jfam11638]

I guess all the competent attorneys were too ‘woke’ for Elon’s liking lmfao

[@alanepithet2931]

More like he fired them all for being too competent. You know, like he did the rest of his staff.

[@SFSteph23]

Twitter is such a joke now they can’t attract decent legal talent. This is not an opinion - I know this to be true.

[@RJGrady]

It reminds me of the knight in Labyrinth who pledges to defend the bridge against being crossed by anyone... without his permission.

[@RJGrady]

Like the policy they site specifically says they will lie down if they receive such an order.

[@glennpearson9348]

I find it hilarious that Trump has been screaming to know where Hilary's 30,000 e-mails are for years, but as soon as the government wants to know where his 30,000 tweets are, he suddenly starts singing a very different tune.

[@paolovantassel1989]

Oh, obviously it's a different situation. Hillary Clinton was running for president in 2016. Donald Trump is running for president in 2024. Totally different situations and to claim otherwise is to be weaponizing the legal system unfairly against political opposition. See, this is the sort of legal argument you learn to make when you go to law school. Or at least the same law schools Trump's legal henchmen attended where apparently huffing paint is part of basic contract law and suffering severe head trauma is part of a mock court case.

[@SkorpioVenom]

Not to mention his own white house had similar private email servers...

[@Khronogi]

​@@SkorpioVenomand so did every one before hers. She even asked former sos how they did theirs and she just copied it.

[@glennpearson9348]

@@viral-vector No, you're saying that. I acknowledge a little implied what-aboutism in my original post, but the issue remains: what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[@viral-vector]

@@glennpearson9348 In that case I hope you understand that purging 30k emails during a federal investigation is obstruction of justice and tempering with evidence. So she should have been locked up for just that. Imo far worse than Trump not wanting his twitter dms to get leaked. What real evidence could they honestly find of an insurrection via tweets? or better what can be taken and presented out of context as most Trump things in the media since 2016...but again this is the same party that tried to use KZbinr "SaltyCracker" as proof of an elaborate insurrection plan during those riveting J6 hearings...great stuff

[@route2070]

Executive privileges on Twitter? Ok fine there is a private message part of Twitter, but you figure the president who had people chanting "Lock Her Up!" In reference Hillary Clinton and her private servers, wouldn't be using anything involving social media for anything he wouldn't want to go public.

[@GeebusCrust]

Bold of you to assume fuhrer Drumpf thought that far ahead.

[@NigraeLegiones]

Lol months after the chants his daughter was caught doing the same thing that Hillary had.

[@damp2269]

I'm fairly sure that twitter is not deemed secure for presidency communication so not sure how they can claim executive privilege when the policy doesn't deem it secure in the first place.

[@sonic8005]

We all know Trump was never going to be held to the same level of scrutiny by his supporters that they'd hold others to. You know that, we know that, they know that!

[@custard131]

ye i didnt really get how any of the messages would have privilege, maybe location history though?

[@eskieguy9355]

This falls under the "How stupid do you have to be?" heading. When the company I worked for was subpoenaed, while the lawyers thrashed around, and finally the court said, you have until x, to turn in the documents, in the background we'd already gathered up everything they'd asked for, so when we inevitably lost the contest, we were ready to go. I don't understand why that's such a hard concept.

[@SkorpioVenom]

Twitter is currently staffed by a ton of people who are unfamiliar with their systems and databases. It's very unsurprising that they couldn't gather all the desired materials in a reasonable time.

[@akmon3490]

Because they didn't know until two days before the due date and even then it was only the legal department involved , by the time any relevant department was informed in producing that data it was already mid hearing in the trial.

[@teeandessing12]

⁠​⁠@@akmon3490 They knew the second they received the subpoena. “Because they didn’t know two days before the due date” is a bad lie. It’s like saying their dog ate their homework. Imagine you being served a subpoena and your answer was “I didn’t know” well contempt it is.

[@ectothermic]

@@teeandessing12 Elon ate their homework.

[@yeoldegunporn]

Fighting this while law enforcement are given information on people who get abortions is just so infuriatingly hypocritical.

[@hr329085]

Right? Like I get if they put up this fight regularly, but this is the only time they've ever done it to date. How did they think that wouldn't be noticed?

[@Pushing_Pixels]

Musk wants Trump to love him again. He bought Twitter just to reinstate his account, but he won't come back 😔

[@jamesmccracken2542]

You should already know these guys only want us to follow their rules, not the other way around.

[@doresearchstopwhining]

Giving law enforcement information on people who get abortions is just simply infuriating and the fact that they decided to go to court to protect trump's attempt to overthrow the election is also, while difficult to compare, infuriating...

[@Aliens1337]

"iF yOu ARen'T DoInG aNY tHInG ilLEgAl yOU hAve NOthInG to HiDe" - Every Republican making excuses for law enforcement to break in your house or your car. Yet the same people will say how this is "unconstitutional"

[@nicodemusedwards6931]

An important thing about court. When the court asks you for something… it isn’t *really* asking.

[@jessicathomas73]

Yeah it's an order, not a question

[@meepk633]

A hearty suggestion.

[@valerierodger]

Yep. I recently saw a summons referred to as an invitation to appear. Yeah, that’s not how it works. At all.

[@StorymasterQ]

It's already a strongly worded letter.

[@Michael-bb1cw]

What the court is actually asking is “would you like to comply, or would you like a world of trouble?”

[@briannaapling495]

The abuse of "executive privilege" by everyone connected to Trump demands a review of the entire process.

[@steveaustin2686]

The Speech and Debate Clause for Congress needs an exception for criminal acts. Congress should not be above the law either.

[@meanmutton]

I don't understand how hard it is for people to understand that "executive privilege" is only held by the executive and TFG is no longer the executive.

[@chrismiller1730]

@@meanmutton it would also still apply to stuff it applied to when he was president, but none of this is that anyways

[@FFVison]

I have heard of Trump, so can I invoke executive privilege? I'm sure I can try, as many people affiliated with him do try, but I might be just as successful as they are. I also wonder if they are trying to invoke executive privilege under the assumption that 45 is still president (in denial about the 2020 election results).

[@Khronogi]

​@@FFVisonhe couldn't be president though, he was never certified in, which means he isnt president. Presidency has an actual end time where a person stops being president, it doesnt just auto renew.

[@jloiben12]

Elon does enjoy being incompetent

[@ToniHinton]

Lucky for him since he's so good at it

[@gladlawson61]

I wish he would move to mars already. Gtfo out Elon. Enjoy the near vacuum of mars.

[@declaredjeans7555]

He's taking after trump..

[@WTFisTingispingis]

It's almost like he has no idea what he's doing and throws money everywhere.

[@cail171]

I've never cared for Elon. Even b4 this Trump crap. How stupid. I'm so over all the bs that's going. Wish all this energy both sides are putting into fighting one another went to fighting 4 the citizens. Like pay attention to what's going on in the country. Shooting at another school yesterday, homelessness, etc etc etc.

[@Jonny5Fails]

"I refuse to submit the evidence requested by this warrant on the grounds that it may incriminate me." Cool. Didn't know the 5th amendment worked that way.

[@gilliganallmighty3]

Fletcher Reed: I OBJECT Judge: On what grounds, Mr Reed? Reed: On the grounds that it is devastating to my case! Judge: Overruled.

[@topogigio7031]

Apparently if you commit a crime you can also just delay trial until the judge gives up

[@LuisSierra42]

My dog stepped on a bee

[@suzbone]

​@@LuisSierra42check out the potatoes I grew!

[@longlifetometal1995]

​@@topogigio7031only if you're rich enough

[@cogspace]

The writers aren't lazy, Devin. They're on strike! This is scab work if I've ever seen it.

[@jesuszamora6949]

ChatGPT could be writing this shit.

[@BruderRaziel]

@@jesuszamora6949 Hmmm, could the writers striking have anything to do with the low quality writing? Hmmmmm, I wonder if these things are in any way connected. Nah, better hate on workers trying to get closer to getting paid their worth. Scabs and scabminded individuals are simply scum. Corporate propaganda spreading scum.

[@thomasbecker9676]

It's almost like Elon Musk isn't as intelligent as his fan club wants to believe. Almost like he's just another grifter with a messiah complex.

[@popmmog-7]

and billions of dollars what an awful combination

[@thomasbecker9676]

@@popmmog-7 All started with money from his daddy's (blood) emerald mines.

[@Jehty_]

Being intelligent doesn't mean that you make smart choices in every situation. Many intelligent people are socially inept.

[@Bimmer_MD]

Hence his brute force work ethic and tactics. Typically, intelligent people work smarter not harder, but Elon seem to favor the opposing approach.

[@anna9072]

Really?? Ya think?!?

[@JustAnotherAverageDumbass]

Fun fact (you may already know): Donald Trump had already faced 4,095 lawsuits before his presidency in 2016. - 1929 cases = defendant - 2121 cases = plaintiff Legal Eagle did a few videos covering some of these frivolous lawsuits he tried, it's hilarious 😅

[@classicclassi6146]

His dad is Fred, not a chimpanzee, money now

[@hansbass8119]

Trump has more cases than the entirety of Law related movie and/or series combined

[@evrythingis1]

Wow, our legal system must TOTALLY BE REAL /s

[@abigails4088]

also, before his Presidency (fun fact, btw... when used in a casual reference it is an improper noun. However, when referring to the highest office of government it is technically a proper noun and should be capitalized! Amazing how many of his wannabe traitor followers don't realize this...) before his Presidency, he openly announced his intent to commit war crimes by saying he wanted our troops to kill noncombatant women and children "to scare our enemies"

[@hypatia4754]

Any money sent to Trump goes straight to pay off his lawyers fees.

[@spiderzvow1]

Every legal video i watch, its always amazing how many poorly written or sketchy laws that were written during the Regan administration. He and all involved with him really are one of the worst things to ever happen to this country

[@joshuajohnson1167]

Then why do people always wish we could go back to 80s lol

[@macman1469]

​​​​@@joshuajohnson1167Nostalgia. Some old Russians miss communism. And the fact those old enough to remember the 80s want to be young again, despite Reganomics and Thatcherism destroying the manufacturing and mining industries resulting in low wages and high unemployment . Mind you the 80s were great for the rich . This boomer remembers the 80s very well .

[@joshuajohnson1167]

@@macman1469 nostalgia for a better economy lol

[@ChristianNeihart]

Reagan is our Vince McMahon and we are all Steve Austin.

[@joshuajohnson1167]

@@ChristianNeihart thank you Vince McMahon for this thriving business. Without you Steve Austin wouldn't exist

[@KoeiNL]

Why isn't contempt of court based on a percentage of revenue? 325K is a complete joke and allows companies to be frivolous at will.

[@jonsouth1545]

considering how he has imploded Twitter's revenue 325k is probably more than Elon will ever make out of Twitter

[@Jehty_]

What makes you think that it isn't?

[@TyroRNG]

The world isn't fair, they just try to make it look more fair than it is.

[@SShadyJess]

@@Jehty_ because it was 325K for a company valued in the billions, which would mean that a regular joe would only be paying pennies were they to do the same thing it if were based on a percentage of revenue

[@zenko4187]

@@Jehty_ What makes you think that it is? Do you have any sources that point to it being a percentage of income, because the typical fines for contempt of court have cielings based on the type of court. Most of the states I've looked at had $500 for local courts and the state level courts had $50,000.

[@ThisFinalHandle]

Nothing would give me more joy than Trump to now sue Twitter for disclosure of private information.

[@Krushak8888]

Which Trump would lose since it was the govt and Musk can tell Trump to go kick rocks. Especially since Twitter never cared about releasing information to the govt/police. So if they want to fight it now? Obviously cause it's Trump.

[@daemonsw77]

Hes already condemned Tesla as a joke, youd think elon would wake up to the grift, too busy also griftin to notice i guess

[@ArDeeMee]

That would be the hilarious cherry on this utterly ridiculous crapfest. 😂

[@stabby1784]

We can have bets on which is the more inept legal team.

[@liamcullen3035]

Pretty sure this video said the statute protects twitter in this instance, as it was in response to a valid government warrant. So Trump would only sue for PR purposes, not to actually win the lawsuit.

[@nevermore0]

There's no possible way Elon didn't call up Trump about this.

[@j.munday7913]

I bet Elon was really excited for a reason to call his crush.

[@victorzarenin9286]

I just adore when these judges roast any Trump/Trump-adjacent lawyers/legal arguments. All of these people are so used to utter impunity that they have no way to react when held to account by the legal system.

[@marketsquareus]

you mean people like joe and hunter biden?

[@BakingBadOBX]

if this was a reality show, I would never miss an episode.

[@exeggcutertimur6091]

It is reality. You are the star of every episode.

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

​@@exeggcutertimur6091😀⭐

[@darkithnamgedrf9495]

This is the part I don’t even get lol. I understand this for trump lawyers, but how are Musks lawyers so bad, like maybe you should’ve found better ones after they butchered your Twitter buying case

[@JacyTeh]

Is Elon trying to use gross incompetence as a tax deduction?

[@MaddTheSane]

Wouldn't surprise me. After all, he's such a "stable genius."

[@CurriedBat]

Haha... oh that's hilarious.

[@stanleyomar]

Ha, that was great! 👏

[@disorganizedorg]

@@MaddTheSane I don't think anybody, including Musk himself, has ever asserted that Musk is particularly stable.

[@viral-vector]

I love how people loved Musk until he bought Twitter and got rid of those "fact checkers"...

[@LaktostheIntolerant]

I am getting reaaall tired of these goons invoking an Amendment they don't understand.

[@henryptung]

They know. But this is how the law works from a rich perspective - good and bad legal moves alike are just tools, toys and obstacles to throw into the gears and slow down the process. They will always have more money and more time (for hire) than you will, and even if they can't stop justice altogether, they can delay it to the point of meaninglessness. That's really the point of conservatism too - the law should be a set of chains on _you_ to keep you in your place, not a shackle on people like them.

[@Boyzby]

"The warrant lists out all these completely valid reasons why an NDA is necessary." "FIRST AMMENDMENT. FREEDOM OF SPEECH" they say as they mindlessly defend a criminal. Even judges have to deal with these Twitter idiots, but at least these ones actually have to listen why they're wrong about things they say.

[@nehpets216]

The Judges have the advantage of not just pointing out that they were wrong without interruptions but Making them do what they are supposed to.

[@iKyroll]

I think it’s quite disingenuous to say that trump supporters mindlessly defend a criminal, when in fact, you have no issue with the scars of the Clinton and Biden crime regimes

[@Aaron.Thomas]

This seems to be the "find out" stage of "f* around"

[@theobservarator6424]

@iKyroll How many convictions and charges do these crime families have?

[@PurpleKnightmare]

@@theobservarator6424 that is irrelevant. Everyone knows he is a criminal yet to be held accountable. Same with his son. Imagine stealing money from an orphanage, and not being held accountable, and think he is not a criminal.

[@dannywatson4253]

The most revealing part of this is the failure of Twitter to produce the files immediately after the trial. They had all the time they needed to prepare while the trial was going, but were so confident in their case that they saw no reason to prepare for losing.

[@Jehty_]

Is that something positive or negative? At least that way they thought that it wasn't a frivolous lawsuit.

[@bilateralrope8643]

They also agreed to hand over the files the same day as the hearing. Instead, they took 3 more days and suffered the escalating fines. So it looks like the lawyers thought the files were ready to hand over. Question is, did someone lie to the lawyers, withhold the files, or is the damage to Twitters backend so bad that those simple database queries took a lot longer than they should have ?

[@khaerinaenno]

@@bilateralrope8643 I mean, I'm not sure, but I don't think lawyers could disagree with it, if judge felt this way. They could argue that it's unreasonable timeline, but judge could answer "well, you had established timeline before, and you would be golden if you just followed it; you decided to spend a lot of time and money from taxpayers, so now you need to pay. I give you one chance to dodge penalty; if you believe it's unreasonable, just think that I imposed fine on you without ability to dodge." This kind of decisions happen. (Of course, if I would be Twitter's executive team, I would order this data to be compiled beforehand, just to be able to comply with the order immediatly; I'd order it in the day I filed motion, in case it wouldn't go my way.)

[@michaelwright2986]

I think not. They intended to, at least, delay handing over the files as much as possible, so did as little as they thought they could get away with. I say "they", but we all know it's really Elon Skum's doing, because he doesn't see why he has to obey any laws.

[@bencoomer2000]

"You need to read the Mueller Report a little more carefully." Could apply to a LOT of people.

[@jackfrank303]

I'm sure Elon would fight just as hard if a warrant to get my DM's or Tweets was issued. Wouldn't he?

[@TheAwesomeTruthofTT]

😂…. No.

[@cassfonnesbeck8057]

😂

[@dragonshiny7321]

Hopefully That means that pro wrestlers can help me fight people when I get in trouble with the landlord

[@margaretwordnerd5210]

😆🖖✌

[@damp2269]

thing is I think they had a better response to this though: they can point out that since the Orange is a very public figure the optics would impact the company's image. It probably wouldn't hold but way better than their answer which was "uhmmm ........i got nothing"

[@jmr]

I'd appreciate the fight Twitter put up if I thought they would fight the same way for the rest of us.

[@meepk633]

"fight" against what? We are the courts. The courts are just people. The government is just people. We have access to the courts like we can elect politicians. We don't need Twitter to protect us from the courts or the government. We need Twitter to fear OUR courts and OUR government. Don't buy into their libertarian narrative. They want you to mistrust the only power you actually have.

[@jefflittle8913]

I think that's the real point, really. Elon embarrassed some Three Letter Agencies during the Twitter takeover and has gotten nothing but shit for it ever since then. These people don't want justice. They just want an automatic guilty if you have an R by your name and an automatic innocent if you have a D by your name.

[@JosiahMMA]

I was caught with a roach during an illegal raid when I was 19 and did more time then he'll get, no matter how many felonies they add on, and if he's convicted. The system is baffling.

[@paulahik211]

How many NDAs has musk forced people to sign. By his thought, that's against the 1st Amendment

[@bobfg3130]

Many can fight them easily.

[@roperaustraman4445]

Not a Musk fan, but these are different situations. With Musk and his employees any NDA is voluntary or coerced, with a government NDA you do not have a choice if you do not comply you violate the law.

[@grommile]

The United States Constitution, with the notable exception of the Thirteenth Amendment (which forbids the owning of slaves), does not restrict the actions of corporations or the vast majority of private citizens.

[@mariod818]

I love it when people believe they're correct. No. An NDA is an agreement between two signatories not to discuss a given topic outside of certain circumstances. You are specifically agreeing not to talk about something. The government will not tell you that you can’t disclose whatever is covered by the NDA. However, they will enforce judgements against you, should the other signatory choose to take you to court over your breaking of your contractual agreement with them. In other words, you’re still free to say whatever you like, from a First Amendment standpoint. You’ve just agreed not to talk about certain things and - if you do - you’ve agreed to certain penalties as part of the NDA language.

[@lawrenceredmacher4382]

the 1st amendment is about the government preventing free speech, not agreements between 2 private parties preventing speech

[@gil1934]

The writers aren't lazy, they're on a strike 😂

[@skyboy49707]

It never ceases to amaze how people will consistently throw themselves under the bus for trump even after they've seen how badly it's gone for the dozens of others that have done the same before them.

[@akmon3490]

Na this is Elon's vision of what Twitter should be and should act , they used the argument of "But it's related to a president" cause they knew they had jack shit to fight with.

[@jbern2185]

It is insane how many people sacrifice their lives and savings for this conman. How many people from Jan 6th are in prison or have records now based on following trump? The attorneys who were filing fake cases like Rudy, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis, John Eastman, etc have had their licenses suspended, are going bankrupt, trump isn't giving them any of his donors money, and they may go to jail. Now, Elon wants to sacrifice Twitter for Donald? Remember the auto-pay, credit card scam he was doing that kept taking money out of Their accounts ever week and then every few days? I can't believe he's still able to fund raise.

[@dreadkaiser1058]

true believers for you. also ignore that not only has it gone badly for everyone else, Trump himself clearly doesn't care about the supporters under the bus either.

[@wendighoul]

Twitter all about the First Amendment, until someone hurts Elon's feelings.

[@tab46]

Sounds just like a democrat.

[@tabithal2977]

@@tab46 except that elon is a conservative. so it sounds like a republican

[@the_last_ballad]

​@@tab46 biased ears do be listening...

[@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub]

@@tab46 hang on, don't go anywhere, I have a travel slideshow i'd like to show everyone

[@qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7]

@@tab46 You thinking people closely associate as “Democrats” tells me that you’re over 50. No one likes being a Democrat the same way conservatives follow the Republican Party as if in a cult. Hasn’t been that way in years. The Democrats suck. They are a moderate-conservative party. The US needs a truly left wing progressive party to represent the interests of non-elites of all identities. The Democrats are ideologically misaligned with left wing politics. But they are not fascists. The Republican Party has become dominated by fascist leadership. That is why people vote Democrat: not out of passion or support, but out of rejection of authoritarianism.

[@vsGoliath96]

"Man, the writing this season is just so lazy!" Well, of course it is! The pro writers are all on strike so this shit it being written by a second rate intern assisted by ChatGPT.

[@quinnbell2388]

Hey, the intern is doing their best. And is probably unpaid

[@chrisschack9716]

@@quinnbell2388I'd hope being a scab paid better than THAT! It's not like they'll be able to join the union once it's all over...

[@scientificthesis]

​@@quinnbell2388More people need to stand up for interns like this.

[@Captain_Ford]

"Twitter denied that obvious truth." I believe that's called "lying", but I like the way you phrased it better. I'm gonna start using that myself.

[@IrocZIV]

Fines need to be a percentage of income/profit, else they only apply to the poor.

[@topogigio7031]

$350k is what Muskrat spends at McDonald's. $350k is also *ten years* of work for the average American.

[@IrocZIV]

That is a lot of Big Macs! @@topogigio7031

[@Jehty_]

I hope it was like that in this case. Otherwise a $350.000 fine for a normal person or small company would be a lot.

[@JasonBoyce]

A fine that doesn’t have any real economic impact is just the cost of doing business. It’s like handicap parking tickets being $200. Rich people will park there, and if you say “Hey that’s illegal,” the rich person will say, “No, it just costs $200 to park there.”

[@sarah_757]

... apply only to the poor. Yes, that's the point. Rich people have a different court system.

[@AbbreviatedReviews]

There's probably like a one or two percent chance Elon didn't immediately call him and tell him this regardless.

[@BeanManolo]

If he did and they found out, he'll be in more trouble than just a fine because it won't be just contempt on court, but straight up tampering with a federal investigation

[@warlordofbritannia]

Especially since he’s desperate to get Trump back on Twitter

[@novaseer]

@@BeanManolo Worst of all, they probably still get a slap on the wrist for it, given the precedent already set here.

[@imjashingyou3461]

Tell something confidential to the biggest blabber mouth in human history, and hope he has enough concern for you, and not himself to keep his mouth shut to avoid you going to federal prison for Tampering in a Federal Investigation. Pretty sure he didn't and elons lawyer would have resorted to violence if he tried.

[@TitularHeroine]

​@@sam6235....that is an excellent point.

[@Ghostwolf82]

1:25. Seeing the Muskrat ‘cry’ just put the biggest smile on my face. Props to the person who’s task it was to put that part together 👍🏻💯

[@Jearrod]

Love when the substitute teacher shows up because then you can act up in the comments 😈

[@LegalEagle]

👀

[@ArDeeMee]

*flips table

[@Hyac1nth]

At this point, I'm thinking fines should be a percentage of a person's wealth instead of a fixed number

[@rgemail]

They should be a percentage of a person's wealth *above* a base standard of living cap, with percentages that go up steeply as wealth increases. Crimes should cost in real monetary pain a similar amount regardless of bank account balance. No base for corporations.

[@jameslake7775]

Keep in mind that this was set to scale exponentially with continued non-compliance. A full week would have gotten them fined $6.4 million. A second full week would raise that to ~$410 million. Week 3 the fines would start to exceed a billion per day.

[@TheWebstaff]

​@@jameslake7775was it? Good work by the judge!!

[@hhiippiittyy]

That's how It's done in Norway, if I'm not mistaken. I read about some absurdly wealthy guy in Norway who's speeding fine was $100,000+.

[@hokyosei]

​@@TheWebstaffyes, it started at 50,000 and doubled every day

[@raulnavarrete963]

Imagine being a normal American, and not complying with a search warrant. The legal corruption and privilege is insane in this country.

[@allconservativesarepedophiles]

Cope.

[@andrewmanzo8217]

A lawyer that isn't biased might tell you that sometimes it is within your rights to not comply with a search warrant. Sometimes the law is wrong. That is why there are several courts which decide on the legality of laws.

[@matthewtrujillo7228]

In no way is Musk a normal American

[@Zeo-yl9pd]

​@@matthewtrujillo7228you are right. Elon Musk is an extremely wealthy business owning African American that has built theoretically many environmentally friendly machines (ev) that many people seem to have a problem with him and his businesses.

[@raulnavarrete963]

@@andrewmanzo8217 lmfao and you’re in jail while they sort it all out. Unless you’re rich, and white, but mostly rich. Which is my point. They get the privilege and luxury to fight, even if their arguments are BS, meanwhile cops can show up to a regular Joes house, especially in the hood/ boonies, and break and enter without a warrant, and you still go to jail.

[@RHCole]

Sounds a lot like Twitter is trying to act as counsel to Trump in this case, don't it?

[@rockfire1669]

Yeah, if you were part of a coup you would want them to not mention you. Like it is the whole goal

[@Jehty_]

@cb8911 two things: 1. Twitter was in the wrong, that's why they lost. 2. They only stood up for one guy. One single guy. No one else. Now why is that? 🤔

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@cb8911 And censoring with conspiring is still happening same, if not worse. And no one else freedom is protected, only this one specific case. And not in a good way either, obstruction of justice is not a "standing up for freedom", its a crime.

[@Jehty_]

@cb8911 what has this to do with censoring? This case wasn't about censoring. Not even related in any shape or form. So what are you on about? Did you watch the video? Because the video explains why Twitter was in the wrong.

[@heathersmith4042]

@cb8911 do you have any source that they were censoring and removing tweets *just because* they were on the right? any source at all that isn't some shit you saw on rumble? or do you think that spreading antivax lies and inciting violent insurrection is an inherent part of being conservative, so banning your orange god was just cenSOrshIP agAINsT conSERVatIVES?

[@paddobs]

I'm a digital evidence professional. People like me do same day turnaround of single custodian requests all the time. Hard to believe Twitter/X couldn't deliver this by close of business Jan 27th with notice on Jan 25th.

[@Hidakaku56]

I feel like the could possibly get a slight pass considering how much they’d have to filter through but I also feel like they could do it in like 5-7 days max.

[@ArDeeMee]

This is digital, they would filter it with a handful of clicks. Where do you think it would take a whole WEEK to put the data on a USB stick and hand deliver it to the court?

[@philscherer1605]

I believe it. Elon fired tons of people when he bought Twitter. The team was probably understaffed.

[@bilateralrope8643]

You are assuming that Twitter's backend databases are fully functional. With all the job cuts, that's a questionable assumption.

[@phelan8385]

​@@Hidakaku56I'd imagine they'd just have to export Trump's user data, which should all be in one place. I'm no expert but it wouldn't be like searching through your entire file system on Windows using an old hard drive.

[@TheKrispyfort]

NEVER engage the services of legal counsel who permits you to dictate to them the legal approach to be used in court.

[@Lex-dw7ng]

Imagine an electrician or a plumber just going "yeah, forget me - how do *you* think I should do it?"

[@evrythingis1]

@@Lex-dw7ng Plumbing and electricity are real, the Law exists only in our minds....

[@jefflittle8913]

Your theory is that the goals of the client should be ignored?

[@TheKrispyfort]

@@jefflittle8913 goals and methods aren't interchangeable terms nor concepts

[@TheKrispyfort]

@@Lex-dw7ng thank you 🙂

[@azazel166]

I am so done with these conmen billionaires.

[@jeffyboi6969]

oooh are you

[@warlordofbritannia]

“Conmen billionaires” Ah yes, and this floor is made of floor 😮

[@Vicky21987]

Yeah, the writer's strike really needs to end. This season of Trump is just jumping the shark left right and center^^

[@jhemp]

Maybe you should join their picket line. The sooner everyone makes it to the negotiating table the sooner we can actually hear something of substance.

[@JargonMadjin]

A lot of things need to end, let's be honest

[@shloopp]

I love that we fine billionaires for breaking the law as if it means anything to them. Broken justice system. Broken country.

[@jeffreywarf]

Functioning as intended under capitalism. The only country that actually punishes billionaires is China

[@jarrakul]

To be fair, doubling fine schedules are a pretty solid answer to this sort of thing. Yeah, a rich person might be able to hold out for a few more days, but exponential growth is a powerful thing.

[@burculuks]

The existence of billionaires is proof enough of a failed system.

[@loyi-kyong]

This was engrossing and I really liked hearing about musk rat's team's arguments and the judge putting them in their place.

[@pepperjack6749]

Legal Eagle and Scowl Owl is easily the best duo names of our generation. Yall do need some utility belts though

[@eric98292]

Probably should get matching tattoos.

[@freddekl1102]

Would arch-nemesis of the Legal Eagle be Illegal Eagle? Kinda yikes tbh

[@mrkaboom2]

​@@freddekl1102wouldn't it either be an illegal snake or an illegal bird of prey as eagles eat both

[@MainlyHuman]

​@@freddekl1102illegal seagull

[@weirdhousewivesclub]

​@@freddekl1102villainous vole

[@PandemoniumMeltDown]

Elon: took it not so great. Me: accidently get shot for not complying.

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

It doesn't get much more "I'M DOING SHADY CONSPIRATORIAL CRAP" than asking a court to reveal a search warrant to the target of an investigation.

[@zack1stplayer]

They made up a lie about how Twitter was "unfairly biased to leftist politicians" before Elmo took over. Then immediately biased the company towards rightist politicians as soon as Elmo took over. They really did just self-report on their own schemes. Oh and to head off any commenter that tries to bring up "Muh Twitter Files:" they have similar requests from Trump campaign teams that they respected, and the Tweets actually removed by the documents featured in the "Twitter Files" were all reposts of private images featuring Biden's Son's Penis, fully-nude, that any citizen has the right to take down for privacy concerns. They were not opposing political opinions, subjects, or free-speech. They were not biased towards either political aisle, unlike now where they literally go out of their way to allow an hour-or-so long hate-speech video onto the site after it was repeatedly flagged for hate-speech, or attempting to notify someone under criminal investigation of those requests, just watch the video for that story.

[@warlordofbritannia]

I’m going to disagree here. The Fourth Amendment exists for a reason; you’re implying that innocent people shouldn’t worry about abuses of power. Edit: Me have big dumb and misinterpret comment. I thought for some irrational reason he was making that point in a vacuum…rather than in the context of this video. Yeah, I know 😂

[@nvelsen1975]

@@warlordofbritannia Are you trolling or really able to miss the point that telling a criminal he is being investigated, defeats the purpose of that investigation?

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@nvelsen1975 That’s what a warrant is, anyways. So yes

[@RainCloud848]

@@warlordofbritannia you should be embarrassed.

[@MrSchism]

I should get someone to subpoena my Twitter records and see if they fight it for me. If not, maybe I could sue twitter for not upholding the same standard of user protection....

[@ErzengelDesLichtes]

I wish lawyers who fail this catastrophically would be held liable by some sort of legal association.

[@Kasperl88]

I recommend it be carried out by way of percussive maintenance vis a vis a large mackerel

[@somerandomgamer8504]

​@@Kasperl88I prefer a haddock.

[@PeteOtton]

@@Kasperl88 Monty Python fan?

[@minhduong1484]

I would bet that Twitter's lawyers were given the Herculean task of trying to polish this turd into a diamond and told the executive team about the unlikelihood of success. Also any decent lawyers at Twitter have probably quit the company by now.

[@discipleoferis549]

I imagine the lawyers knew 100% for sure they were going to fail. They were likely just doing their best to follow their client's wishes anyway. It's Musk that was being brick-brained.

[@jacobbockover1628]

I feel that in this case spoiled elite behavior is on full display. Basically these folks seem to be coming up with ideas ignoring legality and telling attorneys to do dumb stuff

[@ArDeeMee]

Zero compassion towards the attorneys, mind, they CHOOSE to do this.

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

@@ArDeeMee Well your fellow cahiers endure similar shit daily, if not worse. People, especially that try to act like they are the top of the world are assholes regardless.

[@dopesickdog]

@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 lmao, can't tell you how many times people tried to convince to break rules for them that would get me fired, under threat of telling corporate to fire me if i don't. people should be required to work retail at least once in their lives, learn the basic fcking respect their parents never taught 'em.

[@Zalzany]

I hope that lawyer gets sanctioned for those shenanigans lol. I mean he cited sources that go against what he was claiming lol.

[@Thoughtsbyme-ts4jz]

I’m embarrassed for that twitter lawyer. Just have to stand up and embarrass yourself because bills need to be paid

[@peterkn2]

We need more judges like that. She really knows her stuff and isn't willing to let giant corporations get away with they shady business practices

[@alexturnbackthearmy1907]

This time at least.

[@Secret_Moon]

I'm honestly impressed she remembered that many details about the Muller's investigation to argue against Twitter's lawyer on the spot.

[@sandwichboy1268]

Her record proves otherwise. Let's hope this is a new leaf for her and not the sole exception

[@vectorfox4782]

Corporations don’t like this level of accountability so they would rather fund opposing judges who are more favorable with their demands.

[@ArDeeMee]

She didn’t memorize the entire case, she re-read the files and took some notes.

[@5daboz]

It would be interesting to argue that any NDA is against 1. amendment, given how often it is used to silence "too poor to engage in legal battle", not just when it happens in rich-folk's backyard.

[@damp2269]

my guess, is that there is no issue against I amendment because you are not forced into it. you can always move on and not be party to whatever information is protected. not a lawyer tho...

[@iapetusmccool]

The 1st Ammendment only restricts the US Government.

[@boxhead6177]

More an interesting argument cause he is currently suing former Tesla employees for breaking NDA. Or that he used NDAs to compel silence from former Twitter employees by threatening to revoke their contracted termination payouts (which is being investigate by state regulators)

[@longlifetometal1995]

German ?

[@mariod818]

@@boxhead6177 you need to understand what a NDA is and how it applies. An NDA is an agreement between two signatories not to discuss a given topic outside of certain circumstances. You are specifically agreeing not to talk about something. If the ex twitter employee broke his NDA we'll elon is well within his right to pursue legal action. There's no such thing pertaining to your second comment/statement.

[@micp4130]

How on earth can a lawyer so blatantly lie in court and not be hit with a contempt of court charge? "Your honor this principle is super important to my client, they do it all the time!" "Show me one instance where you have done this" "Uh... I couldn't find any" That is straight up lying to a judge. How can that go unpunished? Not punishing that is an incentive for lawyers to keep lying until they get away with it.

[@warlordofbritannia]

You really think someone would do that? Go into court and lie?

[@khaerinaenno]

No-no. They're claiming that they have this principle and it's very important to them; they specifically saying that they wouldn't do it if legally restricted to do. They _kinda imply_ that they argue such warrants, but doesn't say it.

[@sjs9698]

@@warlordofbritannia i'm pretty surprised that there might be a person out there who thinks no-one would lie in court... i guess you have a hell of a lot more faith in people than i do :p

[@sunalwaysshinesonTVs]

Scowl Owl did a superb job of explaining Howell Owl's decisions regarding the challenges to her warrant.

[@hiker64]

When the court gave the warning about Trump notifying confederates, they were talking about actual Confederates, which account for a good number of Trump's social network.

[@warlordofbritannia]

*Union Dixie heard faintly in the background*

[@jamesjarrait2231]

@@warlordofbritanniathought I heard a banjo or two

[@dopesickdog]

BAHAHAH

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@jamesjarrait2231 Were they dueling?

[@TheKrispyfort]

Mental Note for future: Physical paper copy of warrants to be prepared in case of digital portal shenanigans. IF an organisation has a legal portal online for delivery of legal requests, such as search warrants, they should have a legal requirement to prioritise that portal's maintenance and functionality.

[@BlizzardofOze]

Can rich people not find good lawyers anymore? What's with this legal carnival of insanity lately?

[@valolafson6035]

It depends on how much they want to pay.

[@TheAssirra]

It's cause good lawyers don't want to do anything with this shit.

[@bilateralrope8643]

In some cases, it's because the client demands the lawyer takes an indefensible position. So the lawyer does what they can. In other cases, it's because the client has a history of refusing to pay bills. So competent lawyers go elsewhere. Or it's both.

[@davidfortier6976]

@@bilateralrope8643 That's right. Even the best lawyer isn't capable of feats of magic.

[@sandwichboy1268]

The legal system has turned into a circus. That's why they're hiring clowns instead of lawyers

[@frankcooke1692]

I have a lot of friends who were duped into thinking Ketamine is a harmless drug (yeah, basically the Burning Man sort of crowd). Elon Musk is the most public example possible of how it can destroy lives. It's not a guilt-free alternative to just drinking like a normal person.

[@dopesickdog]

i'd say ANY psychedelic/tranq is not a good idea to take more than one time.

[@jazzercise300]

Lot safer than most things when used in moderation but yea does a load on your kidneys and can be addictive. Given how expensive it is and how hard it is for someone outside of the festival/wook crowd it's hard to get addicted for practical reasons. Ketamine is a great drug, Lotta medical use, fun as hell but yea its far from harmless. You ain't coming back from a K addiction like you could from H or booze.

[@ContactsNfilters]

​@@dopesickdogpsilocybin is amazing for some people though. Literally life saving.

[@frankcooke1692]

@@jazzercise300 Oh that's the other trap people use to delude themselves - "Well it's basically medicine so it must be good for me" - totally ignoring the context that it's used in much smaller doses, under supervision and alongside therapy. And not adulterated with meth.

[@jefflittle8913]

"Elon Musk is the most public example possible of how it can destroy lives." Elon Musk is an example of Ketamine use? Is that supposed to make sense?

[@chrise8275]

At this point, literally ANYTHING Twitter does will automatically be stupid.

[@Noogleminus]

Elon, think about what you want to do. Now do the opposite. Keep doing this and much of the dumb will stop.

[@damp2269]

that's a catch 22. if he is really dumb (spoiler: he is) then he couldn't follow this clever reasoning.

[@cardinaleek]

Pull a George Costanza

[@Noogleminus]

@@damp2269Agreed. It may be beneficial for Elon to find an adult to assist in this endeavor.

[@sabretooth1997]

@@cardinaleek "Now that guy got CANNED!" He's doing his best, but it's hard to get canned when you're the one in charge of the canning. Instead he's just doing the next best thing, i.e. making money disappear.

[@warlordofbritannia]

@@cardinaleek Elon strikes me as the type of person to trade Jay Buhner for Ken Phelps, ngl

[@ericaschner3283]

So glad I'm not a lawyer that has to answer Elon's phone calls. 🤣

[@TheWebstaff]

The only thing worse would be a referral for Trump!

[@gund89123]

And Trump’s phone call.

[@RM_VFX]

I love that Musk was so concerned about the right and wrong of notifying Trump, while scraping all kinds of data on him and everyone else.

[@maxgeckos]

Once you get your 3rd lawyer, of course bird-themed, can we just get it over with and called this channel "bird law?"

[@Finkeldinken]

"Ornitologilaw and Owlder"

[@rileyfaelan]

Trees might think that bird law specialists are biased when explaining tree law.

[@maxgeckos]

@@rileyfaelan all legal questions concerning environmental law can be sent to PopularPoplarLaw

[@jimbotheimpaler4756]

I’m thinking something along the lines of Jess crow

[@fdiw]

I really appreciate the breakdown about this I can't stomach listening to the news but I am curious about these little policy things that are happening and having an expert actually break it down is really great❤

[@1SCme]

*Even if you didn't know already,* it would be obvious this judge wasn't a Trump appointee because she's WAY too knowledgeable to be in Trump's orbit.

[@phr3ui559]

what

[@ghostbirdlary]

bro biden judicial nominees dont even know what arcticle 5 of the constitution is (not 5th ammendment but they probably wouldnt know that either)

[@1SCme]

@@ghostbirdlary *You're seeing things in your head that don't exist in reality,* nobody here has referenced judges nominated by Biden.

[@akmon3490]

​@@1SCmeand who asked if the judge is trump appointed one? How does it influence knowledge of the judge regarding cases the judge has previously worked on ?

[@1SCme]

@@akmon3490 *You're seeing things in your head that don't exist in reality,* an established pattern of the right - you're the only person asking questions here.

[@rerun3283]

Fascinating. In his old age Elon has turned into a 12 year old edgelord from 4chan.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Does this mean Twitter is going to be closed due to AIDS?

[@dopesickdog]

@@warlordofbritannia (shuts down Twitter) "pool's closed"

[@tenkenroo]

I feel you need a civil law counterpart called tort toucan

[@lgolem09l]

Rich people to prosecutions everywhere: it's so unfair what you can do, how are we even supposed to crime anymore?

[@jii.]

Put scowl-owl deep dives in the title. It's a different mood.

[@scratch5191]

I'm guilty of loving these lawyer dudes and their content.

[@RokeJulianLockhart.s13ouq]

bro only thing I'm guilty of is loving you

[@GaigeGrosskreutzGunClub]

"I'll see you in court ;)" - Devin

[@FuelDropforthewin]

You are hearby sentenced to watch more legal eagle.

[@detleffleischer9418]

I'm a *Mexican* law student and I love watching this channel, it's amazingly great

[@SeverityOne]

-Twitter- X is the gift that keeps giving. Man, I like these videos. Legal issues, potentially some rather complicated legal issue, are explained in a clear and easy to understand manner. It probably also means that things might have been dumbed down a bit, or perhaps some nuances are lost, but still. I've been married to a lawyer (although now she's a magistrate and sends people to prison) for over 20 years, and the legal system isn't anything like the average person thinks it is, or thinks it should be.

[@davidlazerz8564]

Proof that money doesn't make you smarter, just able to afford more mistakes.

[@aceblaz5502]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I never want to see the words "Elon Musk" and "genius" in the same sentence ever again.

[@AskMia411]

What about: “Elon Musk is NOT a genius”?

[@corgasaurus4933]

Elon musk is a genius

[@aceblaz5502]

@@AskMia411 that one I can get behind.

[@Gambit0590]

​@@corgasaurus4933he's objectively not

[@Riokaii]

In sane reasonable world, "obvious truth" denied by an attorney in court statements is called perjury.

[@evrenseven]

Trump actually did tweet again, probably since this has been recorded, just showing mug shot and a link to his website to donate lol

[@JargonMadjin]

I find it hilarious that he'd ask for donations but then it's suddenly not so funny when I realize that people probably will donate to him

[@ryuuguu01]

I think doubling the fine every day was a good idea. Although it only reached $350K after three days, after 2 weeks it would have totaled over $800M and that would have had a real impact on the company. So yes since they complied in 3 days it was not a major expense but it did force them not to drag things out any longer. This is not ideal but it is nothing new that there is one law for the rich and another for the poor.

[@xba2007]

As someone who works in a large internet company, this episode is super interesting to understand how this process work. Many thanks!

[@Grimlock794]

Who wins when Trump and Elon do something dumb? We win because Devin is going to have a new video.

[@doritofan1002]

I smile every time the word twitter is used in this video haha

[@darthasavage7213]

huge ups for the Big Lebowski reference

[@Dexy83]

I'm not an attorney, but above all else, how can anything said on a social media platform be EP? Besides, Biden waived all EP for Trump years ago.

[@khaerinaenno]

> how can anything said on a social media platform be EP? If POTUS is using it to communicate with another social media user, who happen to be, say, their chief of staff or general attorney, and they're speaking about governmental matter, it can be under EP. POTUS probably shouldn't, but that's beyond the point; I don't believe there is a law limiting POTUS in communication means.

[@slizz376]

@@khaerinaenno Except twitter cannot invoke EP, only the person who holds the office of President can. Biden has never waived nor invoked his EP, and Trump can't invoke it as most legal experts agree he has no standing as the former president.

[@jefflittle8913]

@@slizz376 "Biden has never waived nor invoked his EP," Biden is not part of the discussion. Legal battles are not decided by comparison to role models.

[@fraliexb]

For them to get a delayed notice for being a flight risk is suspect.

[@oxenfree8373]

I like the part where he calls Twitter, Twitter. 💪

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

It's make me feel older to note that 1986 is as far from 2023 as 1986 is from 1949.

[@valolafson6035]

Oh no. Don't do that.

[@Sam_on_YouTube]

@@valolafson6035 Sorry. It's even more painful if you use 1980, when I was born. Then you go all the way back to 1937!

[@valolafson6035]

​@@Sam_on_KZbin That just makes it worse.

[@ArDeeMee]

Hey, now, don’t call me out like that! =D

[@stoops3561]

Elon musk try not to lose more money because of twitter challenge

[@Jamandabop]

We can tell when this was filmed because of the "Trump hasn't Tweeted since" line, lol

[@DneilB007]

What’s weird to me about this is that, from what we know from the publicly-facing information on the warrant, it’s probably at least partly about finding out if he (or his security detail, or his aides) used devices other than what has been turned over to the authorities during that time frame. Yet Twitter is acting like they’re protecting his speech, not his freedom of association.

[@artoriapendragon3234]

THanks for calling it Twitter and not X. that's sure to piss Elon off.

[@RedXlV]

The only thing Howell did wrong was imposing too small a fine on Twitter. She should've set it at something along the lines of $1 billion per day. Actually, this incident alone should've resulted in Twitter being completely shut down.

[@paulhudson8725]

350k fine? Well that's not even a slap on the wrist for musks sort of money

[@foam3132]

He's lost 40 billion, and we all know Zuckerberg would destroy him in a fight (did I forget his mother still protects this man-child from fights), so he's be humiliated already quite a bit. But yeah, it's too small

[@ReapermanUK]

should have just jailed elon for contempt

[@jeffyboi6969]

@@ReapermanUK should hunter be jailed for doing drugs? or are we picking and choosing why one goes to jail.

[@kaitlyn3168]

​@@jeffyboi6969if he did them, yes. Bring your evidence to a judge/jury and fight out there. You're not going to, because you're a troll

[@stdesy]

Too bad they didn't wait like a month or something then owe trillions

[@archaeopteryx981]

The idea that Twitter was safeguarding executive privileged materials requires the belief that: 1. the President of the United States had been conducting highly sensitive governmental communications via Twitter DMs; and that … 2. there existed material so sensitive to the functioning of the United States government that it could only be seen by Trump and Twitter employees (a number of whom are foreign nationals) and no one else.

[@imcalledgpk]

What? Twitter interfering in government stuff? I thought elon was against that kind of stuff. Truly a genius of our time.