Huge Verdict Against Alex Jones

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[@LegalEagle]

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[@theremoteanater]

Yes I do

[@MultiClassGeek]

Given that the cap originates as a way to shield corporations from the consequences of their malfeasance, and that juries can't be told about the cap when deliberating damages, I'd say it is. Maybe keep Judicial discretion to apply a haircut to the awards.

[@michaelmayhem350]

Great video already watched it on nebula, just popped in here to say I hope you're planning videos on trump's FBI raid yesterday & his dispositions happening today & the fact that he legally can never hold office again if charged for the 15 boxes of documents the FBI removed from his home.

[@thewifs.]

At timestamp 6:30, your graphic says 1st, 3rd, 3rd, 4th. Just a heads up

[@bipslone8880]

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini........ Texas is a Fascist state

[@confusednamused1161]

Removing politics entirely, only a monster would mock parents that lost a child.

[@jeremydale4548]

The fact that Alex Jones hasn’t been made homeless and jobless yet is a crime in itself.

[@tractorlawnmower]

@@davidmaitland3238but they didn’t, he genuinely mocked them, and called them actors. That’s not a political slant, that’s just what he did

[@KingRenYen]

@@davidmaitland3238 What do you think he actually did if he didn't make life hell for the mourning parents?

[@ryleighs9575]

​​@@davidmaitland3238Exaggerated? The voice clips are featured in this video. He claimed explicitly that the grieving parents were actors, that the entire situation was fabricated, he called one father mentally slow... This video you're commenting on shows the jury for his trial being shown him saying those words...... what's it like to live in a world so delusionally disconnected from what's being held up in front of your face that you could suggest any claim being made in this thread or in this video is any kind of exaggeration? What's that like?

[@BK-hq7tn]

​@@ryleighs9575 "The voice clips are featured in this video. He claimed explicitly that the grieving parents were actors, that the entire situation was fabricated, he called one father mentally slow." All legal and his constitutional right. How many times are people called "mentally slow" in this very thread? It doesn't matter if you lost a child, it doesn't give you special constitutional rights. "what's it like to live in a world so delusionally disconnected from what's being held up in front of your face" We live in god damn reality. Nothing you said nor nothing in this video, violates any constitutional right to say.

[@maker0824]

I'm still so mad they were like "You could have gone to therapy instead of filling a lawsuit." those are NOT mutually exclusive.

[@Kerosiin]

All the more reason to sue Jones. The least he could do is fund their therapy after harassing them after the death of their child

[@salt7625]

It's not even that, these types of people will not ever even try to understand what these situations are like for the parents and the kids that did survive because it won't ever happen to them personally, they don't give two rat droppings what their words do because "oh clearly it didn't happen cause it didn't happen to me" so he doesn't understand that no amount of therapy will fix the fact that your child is dead, no amount of therapy will get idiots like him to stop harrassing him, no amount of therapy will fix the fact that these parents that lost their children have to go around listening to people telling them that they must be lying cause this horrible even was obviously staged... And no amount of therapy will fix the fact that because of people like jones, nothing will get better. Because of people like jones we can't have laws that work to try and make sure these sick individuals don't get the chance to kill kids, because of people like him, cops won't ever be held to a standard where they aren't just allowed to abandon kids in schools with school shooters...

[@shawnwilliam4653]

Jones his audience and everyone who is on that side of things are just the worst people in society....Jones runs a cult... the base of the GOP is Alex Jones

[@shawnwilliam4653]

He showed up for the woman but Jones is a coward he wasnt there to face the dad...Jones just needs to totally be gone....whoever still hosts his garbage website needs to be targeted... there is a channel called Pearl still pushing Jones report it

[@captaingallifrey4274]

What do you think they're going to spend the money on? A new house? A tropical vacation? Get real. Of course Columbine was a real event and they parents obviously aren't crisis actors, but punitive damages are just an incentive to sue anyone for anything and it's ridiculous. They don't need the money and anything that Jones had to pay should have gone to reimburse funeral costs for the victims and the remainder go to towards preventative measures to ensure a higher standard of safety and protection for future students

[@alliu6562]

The judge talking to Alex Jones like he’s a toddler is the funniest thing. She’s basically saying “I’m going to say this. Very. Slowly. So you can understand. You’re dumb.”

[@laurakastrup]

Is that a reference to RPDR or am I just seeing it because I want to

[@Ax-xo4ux]

@@laurakastrupI believe it is a reference

[@zubetp]

@@laurakastruphas to be a reference. that's why i went into this comment - to accuse the commenter of quoting darienne lake.

[@glubtier]

That poor judge, she has the same energy as a parent telling a child not to hit their sibling for the 10th time.

[@glenforde6558]

The judge is a biased clown!

[@annwilliams6438]

@@glenforde6558 And why does she have to keep repeating that they are obliged to TELL THE TRUTH - and mentioned that Jones and his legal team had already LIED twice already THAT DAY. How the hell does a sane person believe a sentence that comes out of this man’s mouth? How can people not see that he is just a snake oil salesman running his mouth off to sell crap at elevated prices? Ok, this happens around the world, but the Americans do seem to have a specific love of crazy - as long as it is shouted loud and emphatically enough.

[@practikal4335]

Sounds like a karen

[@annwilliams6438]

@@practikal4335 She’s a judge! That is her job! She has had to deal with a guy who has acted like a lying child the whole way through!

[@onequickthing8950]

In another context i may have found her annoying, but she was perfect for this case. The same impulses that ruin thanksgivings, allowed her to bring justice to alex jones.

[@camipco]

Things lawyers teach their clients: 5) Don't call the Judge a dwarf goblin during the trial on a national media program.

[@dkierans]

Yup!

[@alexandercandicedad1355]

After the trial? Maybe. But never during!

[@michaelharris9993]

That should be number 1! That's like telling your wife yes those jeans make your butt look big.

[@selfmade4227]

Especially when goblins aren't real so he couldn't possibly know what one sounds like

[@minnesotasteve]

That’s in next years syllabus.

[@TalkingVidya]

If I was being sued for defamation, I would simply not go on my talk show and keep defaming the people that are suing me

[@jaxsonevans6039]

Right?? This is an absolute circus

[@troystaunton254]

Or the judge or the opposing lawyer. But jones is an extremely low intelligence human.

[@jonahmiller5881]

Impossible...it just cannot be done

[@toddhollen]

But you are also not a living pile of dog shit, so you have capabilities that Alex Jones does not.

[@chadfalkin6850]

if you're someone who does this to begin with you're not the kind who stops

[@SwearMY]

How to win your case? Keep repeating the offense, call the witnesses slow, and call the judge a troll. Good job Alex. You shot your own foot off at the hip.

[@user-un8jx8yo7z]

Why should a person like this win their case in the first place theoretically if they behaved completely normally and their lawyers did a better job. Jones was very clearly guilty from the start. There's no world where this guy should have won his case. He had a clear lack of empathy making blatantly false and extremely harmful statements that he knew were false to profit off of.

[@BK-hq7tn]

@@user-un8jx8yo7z actually in the American judicial system he didn’t commit any defamation. You just don’t know the law because you listen to league eagle. Just listen to one other lawyer on the case, just one. I can give you the names of a few.

[@billyscenic5610]

@@BK-hq7tn Let me guess you're going to suggest Sidney Powell or maybe Rudy Giulianni?

[@libfab1]

Deny, deflect, accuse the accuser...

[@BK-hq7tn]

@@billyscenic5610 KZbin lawyers. Independent content creators that are lawyers and do legal analysis of news, current events, and current legal cases. Apologies for not making that clear. (you see how polite conversation works?)

[@oatymilkshake]

"This is not your show" godamn he must of been internally screaming after that one

[@PureChaos]

My favorite quote from this entire trial is, "It seems absurd to instruct you again that you must tell the truth while you testify. Yet here I am. You must tell the truth while you testify."

[@CptApplestrudl]

Will I get punished if I don't? -not really Then, greetings, I am Micky Mc Mouse, lord of communist Canada, professor of advanced nutrition. If you'd excuse me, I have an online podcast to fill.

[@whynotsa6866]

@@CptApplestrudl well...you know perjury?

[@snoozley853]

@@whynotsa6866 You mean the thing Jones hasn't been charged with?

[@katbairwell]

The poor judge was reduced to talking to Jones and his legal team as though they were children. She must have been ready to tear her hair out.

[@CptApplestrudl]

@@whynotsa6866 Will I get punished?

[@sya286]

That mother is so well spoken. It is insane that a bunch of parents with murdered children have to sue to just be left alone. Sucks.

[@noonie6872]

The sadder thing is, it won't work. The loons that buy Jones' spiel will 100% see this as validation that he is an honest man and that the judge/system/country/literally every other human but them and Alex Jones are satanic cabalists or something, and it might even get worse for them.

[@daraghokane4236]

@UC3lTHadUcktfoc56MTViozA this is just a typical jones fan being rude and annoying because upsetting people is funny. Play along its the only type of attention he gets

[@comradeanthony4120]

Sadly it won't work either. This will probably just rile up his base even more and lead to even more harassment.

[@poodypooroo]

Alex Jones is a really gross person, him saying "I believe you" makes him so much grosser because he obviously does know it happened, he just used the murder of children to raise his public profile.

[@allensmith.aaffect.1626]

He hasn't mentioned those parents specifically or the kids by name ever. And hasn't talked about sh in years. Apologized years ago. Admitted he made a mistake yeeaars ago.

[@theautisticside]

Imagine seeing so little worth in your existence that you have to get your feel good moments from calling grieving parents liars and fakes.

[@dexketristo2349]

In his defense, the parents weren't acting too much better than he was. Definitely a damned sight more well-behaved, but the 150 million dollars in damages demand definitely leaned toward lining their own pockets more than it seemed to be the desire to financially punish Alex Jones. Some of the stuff they said wasn't too cool either, but in THEIR defense, Alex Jones started this, and he wouldn't have been in this situation if he had JUST LEFT THEM ALL ALONE after talking about it once and never again. The fool brought it on himself and dared to get angry at other people for demanding he be punished for ruining grieving parents' lives. But I can tell its being over dramatized a little by the plaintiff party. Still, justice was ultimately served, and I *revere* the judge's restraint and sense of calm. She handled that water filter merchant rather well, as did the plaintiff's attorney. xD

[@jeremydale4548]

Honestly people like Alex Jones flat out NEED to be cut off from Society forever. THEY ARE A DANGER TO SOCIETY!!!!!

[@Sir_Bucket]

​@@dexketristo2349I mean if I lost my kid and some blob fish online started to tell millions of people it wasn't a real even and I was a paid actor faking it, I would also try to take as much money from him as possible. If anything the lack of budget might finally stop infowars

[@animeepstudios9110]

@@dexketristo2349”…, but the 150 million dollars in damages demand definitely leaned toward lining their own pockets instead of a desire to financially punish Alex” That’s the point of Compensatory Damages, to Compensate the victims of a defamation lawsuit. The punishment comes from the Punitive Damages, which, as Legal Eagle said, is capped in Texas.

[@smorgensterin4990]

@@dexketristo2349 No, he was way, way worse. Asking for that big in damages isn't about "'lining pockets" as much as it is about trying to cripple Jones so he never has the chance to hurt people like this again.

[@Moose92411]

She had to speak to Alex Jones like I have to talk to my five-year-old son. I’m floored.

[@goozilla132]

I'm still in the camp that Jones's lawyer got fed up with him and sent the entire case to the opposition.

[@fireandstone8059]

Anyone with a brain the lawyer sent everything on purpose.

[@darreng745]

I think the lawyer realised that Jones could not control his mouth and thus the case was going to be lost and so disclosed the documents to make sure that Jones suffers the maximum in damage

[@thickac7579]

Oh it was no accident , I can't imagine a lawyer being that stupid. As for his motives , we can only speculate. But hey if it was indeed a mistake, well that is just a higher power or something lol, it's just so damn stupid that it would discredit the entire human race lol.

[@matgee8892]

No, he's just incompetent. He will also suffer huge consequences from the way this trail has gone. It is quite likely the end of his career. I think perhaps his legal assistant, who "mistakenly" sent the information to the opposition is the one who was fed up with both their employer and Jones.

[@AylaMarianna]

I'm still on the fence about his legal team doing this purposefully, mostly because of how insanely illegal it seems.

[@jeanpaulsinatra]

I've never understood why court proceedings in the UK can't be filmed or photographed. Then I realised hearing a stuffy news reader saying 'Mr Jones responded with ''you are a dwarf goblin''' would be hysterical

[@cptnsquires]

Sounds like a Mitchell and Webb skit. I love this mental image.

[@Noxedwin]

UK Courts are off-limits. But the Parliamentary hearings are pretty great. You want a good time, look up the one where they decide whether or not Trump should be prevented from visiting. Imagine the stiff upper-lip attitude of the British describing, legally, how much of a knobhead Trump is why he should not darken our already-overcast and grim shores..

[@JackOfSpades12345678]

Now I'm no big city lawyer, but I don't think calling the judge a Goblin is gonna help you.

[@hairymcnipples]

I will never get sick of the blank expression on Jones's face as the opposing counsel is telling him that his lawyer messed up.

[@maxbrooks5468]

Okay, I'd actually assumed that that clip was something he'd aired before the trial started. I cannot actually believe he was confident enough to talk about the father of a dead child while that trial was going on. I will be offended by it once I'm done processing how mind-numbingly stupid it is.

[@anovemberstar]

As insane, is he not only discussed the case while it was occurring, but he told his audience the judge was known to have bern linked to paedophile rings, coupled with an image of her with horns and on fire.

[@trainskitsetc]

My mother is a law professor, this has given me unusual access to a whole wealth of her and her colleagues and students stories of the most ridiculous messed up stuff they've ever found in the records in their work and studies because this is naturally the first thing I ask any of them because I enjoy a good laugh and an interesting story. In all the years of being in this position I've never heard of something as sublimely ridiculous as filming yourself bagging out the plaintiff mid trial and broadcasting it for your fans. I'd love to get this boi a psych evaluation he is clearly not capable of keeping himself in line or even protecting himself from the consequences of his own actions. Be interesting to see if he's just real dumb or if there's a diagnosis to be made

[@realperson9104]

It was years before

[@Ujjwalis]

I dont think STUPID is the word one should use for Monsters like Alex and "Humanize" him. Devils like him should be treated WORSE than animals and awarded capital punishment, with the Execution broadcast LIVE and made mandatory to watch.

[@dopesickdog]

@@trainskitsetc he ate too much lead paint

[@Jesthor]

"You've lied to this court twice ... TODAY!" Okay, I was not ready for this punchline.

[@adriatic.vineyards]

"Using only these two examples"

[@oxfordsparky]

So he should be getting charged with contempt.

[@OrigamiShinigami]

Yeah, that's one of the most puzzling things. The defense and Jones truly think they can lie their way out of everything and not get caught. Rules like the damages cap are just going to help them get away with slapped wrists.

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

It’s the fact that she said it like a mother disciplining a naughty toddler that got me

[@stevenn1940]

Same, my god. Just. Wow.

[@csnipper524]

You know you're screwed when the judge has to verbally spank you and your lawyer for lying. He should have been seriously embarrassed by this point.

[@jeremydale4548]

The fact that a punitive damages cap EXISTS is disgusting in it’s own right. If there is a cap and the defendant is a billion air it’s hardly an incentive for them to STOP doing the thing they are being punished for.

[@Nixeu42]

Depends on the cap, what sort of billionaire you're talking about, and how liquid their wealth is. Just because a company is "worth", say, 500 million, that doesn't mean you can just sell it for 500 million dollars at the drop of the hat. You need to find a buyer willing to pay that much, for starters, and that's not exactly easy to find. Often, you need to settle for less than the "list" value. Especially when the buyers know you need cash fast, and thus know they have an edge in negotiations. Finance is complicated. Also, I don't think Jones is a billionaire. He probably is going to come out of this very much the worse for wear...so long as his supporters don't crowdfund his bankruptcy away. Having a fanatical support-base willing to shell out massive amounts of money to "help you in your fight" is a more valuable asset than anything Jones actually owns.

[@GamingWithNikolas]

​@@Nixeu42I think the cap should be based on a percentage of the persons wealth and not a dollor amount. And the percentage should stay the same across all income groups for fairness. Say if it was caped at 20% a persion with 10k in savings would pay 2k but a persion with 100,000,000$ would pay a LOT more.

[@Nixeu42]

@@GamingWithNikolas Pegging it by savings isn't a bad idea on its face, but runs into a massive amount of issues in practice. It would probably just increase the number of people keeping their money in banks located in countries where they can't be forced to disclose their account details, like Switzerland. It also doesn't account for material wealth, like gold or silver bullion, which would be another way to get around the rules. Admittedly, accounting for material wealth would be tricky under most schemes, since, by its nature, things like stocks are going to drop in valud when you sell a lot of them at once, and you'd still need to find a buyer for all of it before you get paid. Easy enough when you only have a few, but someone who owns a company can't sell their thousands/millions of stocks (however much they hold) without massively crashing the price, at which point the calculations become a real headache. This is why most "on paper" billionaires can't actually throw around hundreds of millions of dollars at any given time, and is something that way, way too many people fail to understand. No one, except maybe con artists and organized crime bosses, actually keeps nearly that amount of liquid wealth in their bank at any given time, unless they have some good reason to. Mostly because it's stupid, as that money could be better used to grow said wealth further, or be put to some other end. They might have that much just before some big project or some purchase of another company, but otherwise, the smart ones tend reinvest it somehow. At a certain point, unless you spend it like an idiot, get scammed, or a major economic crash happens, wealth sort of becomes a self-sustaining engine. The efficiency of said engine might vary, but, at a certain point, it's hard to stop sufficient sums of money from making you still more money. Again, unless you waste it all, or lose it due to outside factors. Honestly, basing it on their income tax might be the most fair method. Just have it tack on an extra percentage, to be paid to the victims, for some period of time. There's probably still issues with that, but it'd be slightly harder to dodge, I think.

[@anthonyd4771]

​@Nixeu42 lol what is with the billionaire apologists 😂

[@EngineerLume]

Imagine being the Judge. You've spent your whole life learning law to such a high standard that you can become a judge. You reside over dozens upon dozens of cases, doing everything you can to ensure that a fair and balanced trial happens no matter what. And your entire legacy is telling Alex Jones to please, for the love of God, stop lying under oath.

[@browniniobrowni2074]

"the law" is just some bs we were all gaslit about

[@mordecaimayne8789]

@@browniniobrowni2074 ...what?

[@jonathanbowers8964]

@@mordecaimayne8789 that guy is just another Joneshead troll. Ignore his stupidity

[@herrsiemes7094]

@@browniniobrowni2074 what OP wrote is literal garbage. Judges are some of the least trustworthy people to walk around tbh 💀

[@andrewgrant6516]

The sad thing is he'll probably end up being President in 15 years or so.

[@BeSkeptical851]

It's so messed up that there is no real consequence for lying in civil court and that punitive damages are capped so low. It's as if these were tailored to favor the misbehaving rich.

[@ladywaffle2210]

If only we could drive that final bit into a few more skulls...

[@phillipchallis966]

Yes... it's almost like the system is rigged...

[@YaroShien]

@@phillipchallis966 Its because of Gov. Greg Abbot. He helped pass the law to reduce punitive damages, even though he benefited from it after he lost his ability to walk. Seems kinda effed up when you think about.

[@Metoobie]

This.

[@phillipchallis966]

@@YaroShien very effed up. But we see courts and the legal system fail the most vulnerable time and time again. It isn't a Texas problem... it's an American problem.

[@scharb]

It’s funny AJ calls other people goblins and says they seem “possessed by demons” when he himself literally looks and sounds like Edgar the Bug from Men In Black. “Get me sugar-water, you milk-suckers!”

[@jcpninjaturtle6687]

"Alex started this fight, and I'll finish this fight" so badass to say in court.

[@Pabloesc571]

Hes actually a piece of garbage that tries to enrich himself using the death of his child....

[@catboysephiroth560]

Jones poked what he thought was a circus bear and woke up a dragon instead. Those parents are strong and fierce as hell, and as admirable as it is it's infuriating. They shouldn't have to be. They should have been allowed to mourn and be supported by their community peacefully. They should have been able to heal and instead they get this. I wouldn't be surprised if these poor parents had irreversible trauma from this. They've done amazing and I hope they get to put this to rest soon.

[@LycIrisAurora]

I'm not even a lawyer and arguing with the judge seems like a teeeeeeerrible idea. That judge has the patience of something inhuman to not have just thrown these clowns out.

[@buildawall5803]

Lmao clowns🤡🤡🤡

[@pak3ton]

Why? That its tye bulsshet,,, you cant argue with the ppl with power or what?????

[@roezorra3286]

@@pak3ton what are you talking about???

[@jackbennett9580]

@@pak3ton wanna try that sentence again?

[@pak3ton]

@@jackbennett9580 i better stop or i might ended sued.

[@TheVeryHungrySingularity]

I can't imagine how that lawyer felt when he knew he was having the best moment of his career televised

[@sorenkazaren4659]

I don’t know if I’d be happy or sad knowing that his fame probably peaked at that moment.

[@lillianward2810]

Absolutely! You could tell he was having the time of his life.

[@blucu001]

Less that and more he was having a moment lawyers dream of having, the kind that’s too good to be true for screenwriters to make for a movie or tv show.

[@Matrim42]

That was probably the most memorable moment in courtroom law in the last 25 years.

[@Raussl]

@@Matrim42 never forget The Depp v. Heart trial...there were memorable moments almost every time they were in session. "my dog stepped on a bee..." "hearsay, your honor"...could go on and on.

[@TheMadface80]

"You are not a clown. You are the entire circus." - Miles Edgeworth, and the judge to Alex Jones's lawyer, probably

[@R2BREE2]

Having capped punitive damages is a slap in the face to those families.

[@PointsofData]

Caps exist as a way to standardize damages that are often hard to put a dollar amount on. Plaintiffs will, in general, ask for large sums of punitive damages for things like emotional suffering, and a judge has a difficult time determining if that's a just amount. Having a ceiling makes it easier, but of course no one could predict this kind of suffering on such a large scale, caused by such recklessness. A judge can't ignore a clear law though...

[@jeremydale4548]

@@PointsofData Ok, that makes sense I guess. HOWEVER, there SHOULD be tiers.

[@ryleighs9575]

​@@PointsofDataA good answer, and a good example of the how the concepts of law and justice are independent. Justice is the dynamic and complex landscape of applied social morality. Law is our attempt to formalize justice into a system we can apply consistently. We will continue discovering justice, and behind that, writing law to try and keep up.

[@MM-vs2et]

I swear, the more I learn about this case, the more I believe why the creators of Law & Order thought this case was "too unrealistic" for their show.

[@Triforce_of_Doom]

this is like the difficulty of an Ace Attorney tutorial case but with the grandiose of a nearly endgame case.

[@vetreas366]

@@Triforce_of_Doom To be fair, at least Mr Sahwit was a more likeable guy. Even as a burglar and murderer, I think even he would draw the line at laughing at and tormenting the parents of dead children.

[@GabbyIsFine]

Interrogating the parrot in Ace Attorney was less ridiculous.

[@devent10n]

@@GabbyIsFine parrot had the mental capacity of, like, a 4-5 year old. It's smarter than Jones.

[@crystalbluepartain3434]

so definitely but also, idk what context them saying that was in but why would law and order ever consider a case like this for their show that mainly deals with murders and stuff like that?

[@trevormacintosh3939]

8:17. The fact that Jones lawyers have to write out in big bold letters: "RULE: DON'T LIE TO THE JURY" killed me!

[@hyperx72]

I need a video with just that clip

[@thehandoftheking3314]

Sad fact is they were doing it to try implicate the other side for it.

[@sleepingkirby]

@@thehandoftheking3314 That is the playbook of Alex Jones and his listeners. Accuse other's of what you are actively doing.

[@davebaton8879]

And shortly after his opening statement was done the jury was informed that the lawyer has lied to them.

[@Pilv11]

@@sleepingkirby Jones and trump with their supporters are very predictable. It's always either projecting just like in this case, whataboutism, claiming opposing evidence is fake news, or finally "do your own research" while all their evidence is either made on paint or taken off some far right webpage.

[@piokul]

Plot twist: the assistant who sent the phone was not an idiot, but a hero who put his job on the line for justice...

[@dexketristo2349]

It definitely seemed pretty intentional. You don't just accidentally upload 300 gigabytes of damning evidence directly to the opposing counsel and ignore it. There's a chance it could have been politically motivated, but whatever political reasons could have been involved were easily overshadowed by the ethics of this whole debacle. Needless to say, the families got what they deserved, but 150 million USD in damages seems... Excessive. It looked like an attempt to line their own pockets more than it did a desire to financially punish Alex Jones, in my personal opinion. It doesn't change that the loud-mouthed jerk deserved every second of disgrace this earned him, however. I ultimately agree with your opinion.

[@leeh4669]

@dexketristo2349 really? because infowars alone makes over 50 million annually. the sandy hook coverage exponentially increased their coverage, and it wouldn’t be a stretch to argue that the misinformation jones spread about their children’s murders has brought them to that point. it has been far more than three years post-sandy hook. why should the families not receive the money he made from a show where he went on national tv lying about their children’s murders? why does alex jones deserve to keep the money he earned knowingly spreading lies and encouraging his supporters to traumatize grieving families? 150 million is a reasonable estimate for how much the owner of a tv show which saw substantial growth based on the murders of children owes to the families of said children, namely, the revenue earned from that growth.

[@dexketristo2349]

@@leeh4669 I mean, I guess that's a fair way to look at it. It's kind of difficult for me to accurately guage it, given it's been quite some time since the incident, so my memory of what went down isn't fresh. 'o.o

[@leeh4669]

@@dexketristo2349 As far as I can recall, Infowars only started blowing up when news outlets began covering Jones for making false claims. Just one of his companies made $50 million a year, and it wasn't even his most profitable one! And even if he didn't become popular due to his misinformation, he still profited off of it by dedicating sections of his show to spreading misinfo. He's estimated to make far more than $50 million a year - another venture makes $800,000 a week, and like LegalEagle said, that one isn't even the most profitable. So I would actually say that if you were to determine that all earnings from Jones' Sandy Hook coverage (% of time dedicated to them on tv/podcast, number of articles and products on site, speaking appearances, funding raised due to claims) it would probably be in excess of $100 million, which makes $150 million seem pretty reasonable. Also, I'm sure those parents would give any amount of money to have their kids back. Many of them work to reduce the likelihood of another school shooting happening again, and this money supports their work. Not to mention that many of them would likely be safer if they could afford to live in a gated community or protect their homes.

[@dexketristo2349]

@@leeh4669 Even so, gun control isn't the way to go about it... Also... Misinformation...? Just be honest and say the idiot water filter merchant was spreading lies and defaming people. That WAS what he was doing. As far as his financial logistics are concerned, I couldn't care less about that personally... The families trying to wriggle $150M out of him to push an agenda sounds like it flies in the face of the intent behind suing Jones in the first place, however. THAT is what has me sketched. None of this is clear-cut outside of Alex Jones' being a fucknugget toward bereaved parents and the Judge having to chastise him for being combative repeatedly. :/ Also, I'm not trying to be a jerk, but separating your wall of text into more easily digestible paragraphs will make your stuff easier to read.

[@tenebrousoul9368]

The fact he didn't get jailed for contempt of court and/or perjury just shows what a joke our legal system is

[@JordanDragonAs]

He couldn't get arrested since it was civil not criminal and contempt would have to helped with mistrial

[@TroutBoneless]

One thing you got wrong here. That clip of Jones callibg Heslin "slow" and calling the judge a goblin? That was played in court 45 minutes after it aired, not several days later lol. In the stream you can actually see mark check his phone and then leave early to go get the clip. The amount of work Mark Bankston put in on behalf of those parents is inspiring. This was an easy case but Mark came prepared to BURY Jones

[@NevTheDeranged]

He came prepared to bury him, and then Jones and his team showed up with the keys to a backhoe and handed them over. It's glorious.

[@MM-vs2et]

@@NevTheDeranged They practically dug the hole, and paid for the funeral service

[@oscaranderson5719]

@@MM-vs2et well, they’re about to pay for it heheh

[@xyvazkrown8048]

The worse part is that it might not be enough to bury him cause of the law not letting more than double the damages awarded, or 750k to be set for "punishment" so they won't go into thier "alleged" bankrupcy from it.

[@richardpark3054]

Good point! Is that relevant to anything? Mr Jones is beneath scum.

[@Arkalius80]

Imagine being so comfortable with constantly lying your way through life that you cannot even rein it in when under oath in court, when the things you're saying are easily provably false.

[@troystaunton254]

Alex jones…… is if Amber heard was a man.

[@adamchambers1906]

I’m not saying that’s why Trump hasn’t been put under oath to answer anything but….

[@Phukugoooglification]

Sounds like Trump and his crew.

[@peteriddqd]

@@troystaunton254 not really he admitted his mistake this is just for court... Amber is total psycho

[@thedave1771]

In defence of Jones, I haven’t seen perjury charges yet, nor has Jones actually paid out any money. Yet. So at least as of today, there have not (yet) been any consequences. Hopefully soon.

[@kronusaerospace8872]

Watching this again, Whilst everybody mentions how the Plaintiff's lawyer ripped Alex Jones a new one, the savagery of the judge cannot be forgotten either.

[@dwwest8168]

The problem is that people who buy into this conman will feel like they need to do more to support him.

[@thatonepersonyouwontremember]

As someone who's father adored Jones and believed he was a completely honest and good man, I am so so so happy that this video exists Gives me endless serotonin

[@EverythingLvl]

Lmao I feel that

[@markmorenault765]

well considering sandy hook was just a crisis scenario and no one actually died, and was just used to gain sympathy for the gun grab agenda, i doint think a man life shoul dbe destroyed over cathing them in some embarrassing truth! they got caught passing fake of ass real! did you see the father laughing his ass off 5 minutes after he got to the school, he didnt know he was on camera yet and when he realized he was live he started balling like a little bitch on cue, no one who looses a child acts like he did, not one, not even close, he was a crfisi actor, just like the guy were they took the kids, he is 100% crisi actor, used to practice emergency scenarios, and it makes me sick they use a fake scenario of something so dark to push some stupid gun grab

[@firewizardrunepro]

Same situation 🤣

[@thatonepersonyouwontremember]

@Tin Watchman ya he died like 3 years ago

[@Pretermit_Sound]

@@thatonepersonyouwontremember sorry dude 😔 I have a right-wing-nut for a dad myself, but still has to suck to lose your parent.

[@joelhaggis5054]

I've heard of defending themselves in court, but Jones seems to be prosecuting himself

[@handuo6301]

he’s such a genius that he’s inventing a new type of trial: self-prosecution

[@dominantwolf4593]

There wasn’t a trial. Defamation is a criminal charge. Doesn’t matter what your opinion of the guy is this is wrong and a violation of basic constitutional rights. Higher courts will overturn this on appeal.

[@handuo6301]

@@dominantwolf4593 There was no trial because Jones was so incredibly uncooperative during discovery that he lost the case by default due to not complying with court-ordered actions. He has no one to blame but himself for that, and if he wanted to have a trial to determine his innocence or guilt, then he should have complied with the court orders like every other law abiding citizen.

[@redlion45]

@@dominantwolf4593 No, regardless of what moronic spin you put on it, his constitutional rights were NOT violated. Defamation has always been against the law, and is punishable. Sorry. If he wanted to defend himself, he needed to hand over the information to the court for cross examination. He didn't. This led to being found guilty by default. No rights were violated. End of story.

[@hydrolifetech7911]

@@dominantwolf4593 you are reasoning like more of a weakling wolf that nature will cull than a dominant wolf

[@fathomtuns7127]

This judge has the vibe of a sweet teacher who lost her very last shred of patience💀

[@giannaleng1897]

Guarantee this was one of the worst days of her career as a judge 😂 She 100% needed a good stiff drink after those days in court 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@lord_ozymandias]

@@giannaleng1897the image of her at the bar, still in her gown, holding a glass of whiskey like a lifeline… embodies this whole case i think

[@michaellohmeier6427]

I am a law student from Germany and quite intrigued with the american Law system. We even have an American lawyer here at out university in a special program (nice man, very cheerful and polite, can be strict but prefers to have his lessons with a smile on his lips rather than a frown on his face). It was interesting yet little bit boring as well due to the differences our law and court systems have. But after the whole mess of the 6th of January and when the Alex Jones trials started to spill over the Atlantic it got interesting very fast. So please keep up the good work.

[@dexketristo2349]

It was definitely pretty eye opening. I thought Alex Jones was a decent guy but a bit fiery, but after seeing the proceedings of this whole trial...? Yeah no. I now think Alex Jones is a dick who has had this coming his way for a very long time. One can only hope it taught him to show some respect for people who have loved and lost.

[@kassiogomes8498]

​@@dexketristo2349you thought that he was decent? Looool

[@dexketristo2349]

@@kassiogomes8498 Who are you again?

[@kassiogomes8498]

@@dexketristo2349 someone who didn't think that a conspiracionist was decent guy.

[@dexketristo2349]

@@kassiogomes8498 Huh. Didn't know my opinion was worth trying to pick a fight over. Find someone else to gaslight, dude. It isn't very effective on the apathetic.

[@gustru2078]

For someone who makes millions a year, the "punitive" damages being capped at $750K is like a slap on the wrist. How can it be punitive if it barely leaves a dent in his wallet. 🤦‍♂

[@ristoravela652]

@@Commodore22345 But that's not why the law exists, it exists to make the rich immune. Like Alex Jones.

[@fireandstone8059]

It's the same amount for someone who makes 10k a year.

[@ArchOwl]

@@Commodore22345 how small of a business are we talking? any mom and pop shop in the world would be absolutely demolished by a $750k fine, so the idea of this law existing to "protect smaller businesses" doesn't hold up IMO. (especially when it hands a far-outsized benefit to large corporations.)

[@tomroberts2135]

@@Commodore22345 no it's not a good thing since it does not specify the policy. Businesses are not people, they can be discriminated against - giving protections to small businesses versus multinational billion$ corporations is not based on race, creed, or other legal protections. In fact, it's pretty basic public policy. This cap is to protect people like Jones and the Big Oil corps. And the case was brought in multiple states, not just Texas. Jones' team fought for the venue to be in Texas because it would favor them.

[@pedrothevenard]

The only business that won't be completely destroyed after 750k dollars punitive fine are pretty big business, so it ONLY protects big corporations, and it is absolutely not a protection to any small business or regular individual.

[@SankofaNYC]

Calling the judge of your case a Goblin while the case is still active is pretty wild 😂

[@BigMan-oz8re]

she is tho

[@SankofaNYC]

@@BigMan-oz8re then you should consider how a goblin would react to you saying that 😂. Also dude, your username, smh, I want you to find true happiness and a real productive life, seriously. Your life shouldn’t revolve around being hateful

[@JamesF0790]

No, she's a highly trained legal professional. Also, Alex Jones of almost ALL PEOPLE should not be calling people a goblin

[@star-iv]

Do you see the above account's racist name? How is that not banned from KZbin?! Absolutely inappropriate.

[@Gigachad-mc5qz]

@@star-iv oh i didnt see the name im sorry

[@jessess6810]

As an Australian, seeing these types of people being real are scary

[@christianlewis2008]

Good ol USA

[@Mythda]

before these lawsuits against him i think most north americans thought Alex was just acting like a complete nutcase to drum up views. then this all hit and people are realizing "oh shit, he's ACTUAL crazy, not just fake crazy."

[@vixxcelacea2778]

@@Mythda I think he has borderline/bi-polar or histrionic personality disorder. Dude is absolutely off his rocker. I've seen him in calmer settings and the way he escalates indicates he definitely has something wrong with him. He's definitely the entire circus. Doesn't change that he's a total asshole though. People can still be living garbage and be damaged individuals who'd benefit from therapy/medication.

[@rebeccamiko9156]

As an American, I'm equally as horrified, believe me.

[@GamingWithHajimemes]

Honestly one of the reasons I wanna get as far away from here as possible.

[@Ani-rq7wv]

Going to therapy can absolutely be helpful when you’re being traumatized. But it doesn’t stop the trauma still occurring. And when the person is actively CHOOSING to lie about you to a following you know is actively threatening and harassing you? YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY TRY TO GET THEM TO STOP

[@zammmerjammer]

As an actor, I'm most baffled by the idea these morons think there are huge pools of amateur actors out there willing to do performance art in public and in front of cameras for literally years. Doing dinner theatre where you have to stay in character for like 6 hours and improvise endlessly with the guests (who are inevitably being assholes and trying to get you to break character) is exhausting. These "crisis actors" would have to be 1. amazing performers but somehow still unknowns, 2. being paid LOTS of money.

[@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch]

You are probably being paid right now. You think we aren’t on to you guys, engaging in psyops in youtube comment sections en mass.

[@bobbobber4810]

Yeah... A movie of a few hours takes years to be made... with a lot of breaks and scenes being redone over and over etc. Live performances are freaking hard and impressive... Imagine doing that for years.

[@infinitewav4655]

@@bobbobber4810 sounds like a tv show

[@shibahyperion7635]

Undercover cops?

[@Demopans5990]

@@shibahyperion7635 Try herding cats with guns

[@ImperfectXIII]

Props to that judge. "This is NOT your show." What a perfect way to put Jones in his place (even if it doesn't really stop the bile from pouring out of his mouth).

[@warlordofbritannia]

Imagine getting put in your place by a "dwarf-goblin" *Double humiliation*

[@YTRulesFromNM]

The 'Judge' told the jury that Alex Jones IS guilty before the trial ever started.

[@souler__]

That has got to be the most reasonable and patient judge on the planet.

[@Katiekooleyes]

@@YTRulesFromNM The judgement was given by default as he didnt turn over evidence when ordered to by the court. This wasn't to determine guilt, it was a hearing on how much he owed the plaintiffs

[@floralee1645]

@@YTRulesFromNM because Alex Jones did not comply with the Rules of Evidence, and this is not that he missed some document but gross misconduct where minimal are turnover and often damaged. The judge followed Texas precedent case on misconduct in evidence step by step, which is how she reached this step. Watch Natelie the Lawyer chick if you are interested, a Texas lawyer broke it down

[@LillikoiSeed]

I truly love the “I just crapped my pants” look on his face. Cracks me up every time😅

[@Mdeaccosta]

What you're seeing is a high blood pressure suffused bigass sponge head. See that edema around his eyes? He's ready to blow. I bet his heart is the size of a cantaloupe.

[@madmantheepic7278]

8:00, god the mother is just... appalled, she's not even mad, it's like she's talking to a naughty child.

[@chrisfortin]

I’m surprised that the judge didn’t invoke an injunction to stop him from talking about the case. He would’ve violated it immediately and should have ended up in contempt of court.

[@Sonic6293]

A little compassion is needed even in justice.

[@craigh5236]

He would have racked up over an hundred counts in one day.

[@SoyAntonioGaming]

Unconstitutional judge and case. Alex Jones only exercised his freedom of speech.

[@yoshin1666]

He's literally just digging his own grave deeper every time he opens his mouth.

[@ah2522]

surprised jones wasn't ass-ass-inated as soon as he walked out of court

[@PeaceLoveAndGuns]

"A lone gunman." I love that you choose not to use the shooter's name (much less show his face). News media needs to taken notes from you, LegalEagle.

[@DoctorProph3t]

My kin! Their names and faces should never be seen or shown again. It’s the only justice their death is not an escape from.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

@@DoctorProph3t In Roman times, one possible punishment for criminals was to sentence them to be forgotten-Damnatio memoriae. Their name was removed from all records and to speak their name was often a punishable offense.

[@JimTheFly]

I've always been a fan of the idea that the people who commit hideous crimes like this should have their names stricken from the public record. The names of those innocents killed should always be remembered, but the one who killed them should be lost to time. Unfortunately, in too many incidents like this, the only one whose name is remembered is the criminal.

[@Ginric99]

@@JimTheFly a good idea but, it would help emphasize stereotypes, if you forget the name then people can claim anyone committed the crime to meet any political need.

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

@@Hartley_Hare Found the term. Damnatio memoriae, meaning “condemnation of memory.”

[@thesun6211]

Thanks for summarizing this, I was curious what Mr. Jones did in Court to satisfy the 'Actual Malice' requirement of Defamation in the Jury's eyes.

[@dexketristo2349]

Yeah, he was being a huge dick throughout this trial when it just wasn't warranted in the slightest. What's messed up is smaller people with worse mental instability have received less of a punishment for doing *more* damage than this loud-mouthed prick. Glad the families got some vindication. I just hope they don't turn into the same breed of hostility as Alex. It would really hurt to watch such a vicious cycle.

[@nanni-buyerofcopper]

Seeing the judge lecture jones like the child he is is pure gold

[@henryptung]

Watching the clips of the judge talking to Jones is serious "mom vs. man-child" vibes. The level of patience and persistence required is absolutely bonkers.

[@Piketom1]

Yep, the judge was absolutely done with his BS. Isn’t rule number 1 not to make the judge hate you.

[@andrewsullivan6757]

Vccs de

[@austinluther5825]

Seriously, that is how I talk to my 5 year old when she does something she knows she's not supposed to do. But she has the decency to say, "I'm sorry, Daddy." So, yeah. My 5 year old is more mature than Alex Jones.

[@tvdinner325]

I really hope future judgements include conditions. Any mention of Sandy Hook, is a contempt of court = JAIL TIME!

[@GeneralBolas]

By this point, the Judge had already rendered judgement against him because he refused to participate in several depositions before the trial even started. She had been done with this nonsense for a while now.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Alex Jones is the real life example of "It's best to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're an idiot than opening it and leaving no doubts."

[@thomas.moerman]

And yet that is precisely why his posse loves him, unfortunately.

[@monkchips]

At his level he is a black hole of idiocy so whether he talks or not makes little difference. Like having a postage stamp saying "This is a building" stuck on the Empire state.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

That is how he got so rich and influential. His entire brand & financial worth is built off of being an open conspiracy theorist and denying reality. Unless the Jan 6th commission comes after him with legal charges he is pretty much in the clear.

[@RaceBandit]

With how badly he dug his grave, you'd think he was Daniel Trashcliffe.

[@Max1996YT]

@@RaceBandit Hmm...did Daniel do something?

[@ian1352]

More needs to be done to inform jurors about the caps, so they can shift the amounts. Since the courts seek to hide this information it falls to outside organisations.

[@gernhartreinholzen3992]

Why do they even put him under oath? He lies nevertheless nonstop. And why is there no penalty for his lies? He should have lost the case the second he got caught lying the first time, otherwise there is no sense in an oath. It's like having a speed limit, but everyone, or at least Alex Jones, can drive as fast as he wants, without any punishment.

[@Thrifty032781]

There is a penalty. It's perjury, and it's up to the district attorney to decide whether to prosecute.

[@FardtilUshid]

The judge reamed him over lying. The rules are there, but the world's not as perfect and clean cut as that. They don't throw the whole boxing match to the other guy if the first bends a rule. Hell sometimes dudes bite off ears

[@BK-hq7tn]

So what was the lie? Just curious.

[@bigchungus6827]

@@BK-hq7tn So I'm assuming you didn't watch Legal Eagle's series on this case so far? Kinda odd to comment in that case.

[@PointsofData]

Perjury charges are done in a separate case. This case was about damages for the victims. You don't stop one case to switch to another. An oath is a verbal contract. If the witness does not take an oath, they have not explicitly agreed to "tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth". Which is how you can charge them with perjury.

[@Narifamen]

Really sucks that the punitive damages are going to be severely reduced. 750k is a slap on the wrist to a lot of big businesses.

[@BaeBunni]

he probably made 100's of times more thanks to the years of lying and lost nothing.

[@spacemanx9595]

Yeah it's ridiculous that there are limits for this

[@chrisray1567]

This is reality of “tort reform”.

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

Good thing it's one of many trials and things coming his way.

[@BrianGivensYtube]

Yeah 750k hardly impacts their monthly reports let alone annual or lifetime. Its the equivalent to saying “bad boy! Now get out of here!”

[@0lyge0]

"I don't want you to do that again and I don't want you to argue with me about it" Imagine being a grown man and the judge has to speak to you in this way as if you were a small child. Now imagine this is the person you've chosen to be your attorney.

[@CollinMcLean]

More like the person you're stuck with as your attorney because Jones is such a nightmare to work he couldn't get a better attorney.

[@stephenmetzler1344]

Is it the judges responsibility to say stop lieing though. Isn't it more on the opposing attorney to prove the lie. Like when would the guilty not lie, I guess I don't quite understand what this accomplishes other than being kind of a judge power trip.

[@0lyge0]

@@stephenmetzler1344 Yes. It's the responsibility of the judge to give instructions to both the jury and witnesses. Jones is knowingly perjuring himself. I don't see how you can not see why that is an issue. This isn't a question to be sorted out, it's been adressed already and Jones keeps lying on the stand.

[@powerbeard5653]

@@stephenmetzler1344 they already DID prove he was lying.

[@AlwaysANemesis]

@@stephenmetzler1344 He was literally proven to have lied...multiple goddamn times. Did you even _watch_ the court footage?

[@matthewbergeron3641]

Do you think I'm an actress? Alex Jones: .. No His lawyer: NO DON'T TALK RIGHT NOW

[@tedgey4286]

12:58 I love the lawyer standing there with his hands in his pockets getting chewed out by the judge

[@ecw0647]

I'm rather astonished that both Jones and his lawyers weren't placed in contempt. It would also seem reasonable to have his lawyers referred to the Bar for disciplinary action.

[@oliveb5768]

Honestly! The judge has been very patient, like it’s time to draw the line here and hold them accountable

[@corbing7786]

Renault is gonna have the stuffing sanctioned outta him

[@zanewoollett6877]

Yeah like did the lawyer not show that Jones was perjuring himself right there on camera?

[@MichelleHartzPhZ]

I think the judge made a strategic decision there. By letting them continue, they shot themselves in the foot.

[@warlordofbritannia]

Probably because that would just draw things out further

[@fwop7436]

I am frightened to think about how many hours of InfoWars Bankston had to watch in preparation for this trial.

[@TheMightofDab]

He had to watch it enough to get a handful of clips of Alex Jones saying stupid things So about 10 minutes

[@kjaxthegrate]

@@TheMightofDab A handful? Sweety, ten minutes of his show is enough to write an instructional manual called "How to be an asshole on purpose."

[@dexketristo2349]

@@kjaxthegrate That's... Kind of what Alex Jones does, though. However, he shouldn't have been doing it to parents who lost their children. That was pretty crap of him to do. Even if he hid behind the excuse of that being his media personality, it's just not defensible.

[@mysticpirate]

As a daughter of a man who loves Alex Jones who has his radio station tuned on 24/7… Jones may only record 20-30 minutes of “showtime” but that shit is played on repeat all damn day long. His first line is played on constant repeat for a full damn hour, if not two. I was annoyed and timed it. Then his second sentence would be replayed on repeat for the next hour. It was maddening to listen to. He makes money off every clip for much longer than the segment actually airs. I once even caught Jones deliberately misquoting a politician, I know this because Jones actually played a clip of the politician speaking then immediately talked about what the politician was saying when, the politician hadn’t said it! Jones lives by misquoting people so they fit his narrative. He’s a compulsive lier. I’m not surprised to hear him lying under oath in a courtroom.

[@zubetp]

1:54 i love the lawyer coming in in the foreground like that gif of the guy leaning in and solemnly shaking his head no

[@morrigancollins2092]

Punitive damage laws need repair. Rather than being a hard cap, which makes judgments against the wealthy trivial and non wealthy ruinous, it should be a percentage of total gross earnings over the last ten years.

[@monkiram]

Yes exactly!!! I can't believe that's not already the case

[@Bunnywithablade]

But how are people like the Satlers supposed to keep all that money if we punish them for causing the opioid crisis? /s

[@DailyShit.]

That would make sense for a first world country. Wich america is not.

[@DailyShit.]

It is in Europe.

[@Paelorian]

This might work, and I encourage this kind of thinking to revise and improve law. But while this may be a step in the right direction, I foresee major problems in that it would encourage financial strategizing even more than current law. It would be incentivized to sue the most wealthy, rather than the most guilty, and for the wealthy to conceal and manipulate wealth so that it can't be seized. So this specific policy, as implemented, could be one step forward, and two steps back. It will create some new problems.

[@francescalucezza687]

What’s also sickening is that the child (now teen) survivors of the massacre have had their reality questioned by many people because of AJ’s sick propaganda! Imagine watching your classmates get slaughtered in front of you as a child, dealing with PTSD and survivors guilt…and then to have this propagandist deny your lived experience, opening up old wounds.. My heart hurts for the kids.

[@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch]

Never happened because nobody has gone through this. The students never know the “victims”. Its always an exchange student or a student across the hall in another class.

[@Moofmoof]

@@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch imagine getting brainwashed by Alex Jones of all people

[@Aeluron]

Rock for brain and not worth raging over, moofy.

[@Setixir]

​@@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch Nothing in the noggin is there?

[@xxKuroKajixx]

@@Dr.HowieFeltersnatch are you denying that the sandy hook shootings happened?

[@user-gc6yb2ln1w]

What a wonderful verdict for the worst human on earth. How could anyone terrorise a mother who lost their child in such horrendous circumstances.

[@LordandGodofYouTube]

So it seems like we'll need a follow up video :) Can you tell us what the court can do to get the money if he declares bankruptcy or tries to slither out of paying some other way?

[@dexketristo2349]

I believe he did do a video on that... a Month ago...? It was enlightening and... QUITE disgusting watching Alex Jones attempt to worm his way out of paying these people for the grief he caused. He earned every ounce of what came for him, but they seemed to be out to ruin his life all the same. I just don't approve of the mentality of "A life for a life" in this sense. Call me naive if you like, but it seems cruel and selfish. Definitely deserved, don't get me wrong, but cruel and selfish nonetheless.

[@KeroKero_Cola]

Utterly amazing that we have a system where you can blatantly lie multiple times under oath, ruin multiple people's lives and continue to do so while the case is already in the court, and make every mistake possible in said case along the way. Then still end up being "punished" in a way that you'll make back in little time and won't impact your life at all. I'm sure those laws that set arbitrary caps on punishments were written without any input from rich people at all! /s

[@doomsdayrabbit4398]

Can't take it with you at the end. Just saying.

[@Metaflossy]

your pfp indicates you are a man of culture

[@DoctorProph3t]

Because 3 things. -Criminal Court proceedings are not done to punish the guilty, but to protect the innocent. -it’s a civil case, he was sued for defamation which is not a crime, it’s a civil liability. -this was a monumental ruling against Jones, this has hurt him more than you see. Money is meaningless, but proving to the whole world you’re an unhinged liar? That’s priceless.

[@Blaisem]

I can't believe the law exists that way.

[@cs40660]

unfortunately civil court is extremely limited in the punishments it can dish out and often times gets ignored

[@Guga2411]

I find it amazing that an almost 50 year old man has to be instructed like a child to not lie

[@BigMan-oz8re]

maybe, just maybe…. hes not lying??? thought abt that b4?

[@Guga2411]

​@@BigMan-oz8re yeah you're right, I'm sure he's not lying, I'm sure the court doesn't have records that prove that he didn't comply with discovery and I'm sure they don't have records of his financial situation and the judge is lying instead. you're right

[@brianstraight9308]

But, I mean, the whole point of this series of events is that he was CAUGHT in a lie! He said he had no texts relating to Sandy Hook and he did!

[@spoopyvirgil4944]

@@Guga2411 They're a troll, look at their name. Just report them and hopefully KZbin does something about them. Though I doubt that since youtube really doesn't care about harmful trolls and bots.

[@RCx44]

@@Guga2411 what discovery didn't he turn over? They have nudes of his ex. How did he get a default judgement?

[@aryssamansfield9735]

Alex Jones blaming the media when he is in fact the media is beautiful

[@dazzag]

Despite him being proven to repeadetly lie under oath his loyal and single digit IQ followers will still defend the credibility of his words.

[@kyletrout3828]

She mentions the dangerous fringe that follows Jones. One of my favorite clips is he was out, I'm guessing doing a segment for his show, and he's in a bar. This sketchy looking guy runs up to him and starts just aggressively talking to him about he's a true believer and he knows everything Jones says on his show is 100% true. Jones face just collapses into this anxious 1000 yard stare as he meekly thanks the man for his support. He shoots eyes at his camera man to signal "We gotta GTFOH" They then power walk out of the bar as this dude attempts to follow behind them, asking questions, wanting to have a drink with Jones, etc. Alex Jones knows who his die hard fans are, and he knows he wants nothing to do with them. That they're unstable, unpredictable, and (flat out) not in touch with reality. He knows that to be true, yet he still empowered them and assured them for years that the parents of children WHO WERE MURDERED AT THEIR SCHOOL, were, in fact, some sort of Gov operatives that were lying to strip people of their rights or w/e. The only issue with the 40+ million in damages is that it wasn't more.

[@dylanmurphy9389]

I need to see that

[@kyletrout3828]

@@dylanmurphy9389 Just search Alex Jones runs into a fan. It's a majority report video.

[@alicekohler9405]

All he did was discuss a major news topic at the time. Providing both sides to the story.

[@kyletrout3828]

@@alicekohler9405 lol

[@leejerrett8268]

@@alicekohler9405 You dropped this: /s

[@rmdodsonbills]

My favorite part of this fiasco was when the judge was lecturing Jones about lying on the stand he tried to use the Costanza defense ("I believed those things were true when I said them") and the judge was having none of it.

[@user-od3rl5mc]

So you've never changed your mind when presented with new information.

[@nerrickk9024]

@@user-od3rl5mc *so you've never changed your mind when you realized your actions have consequences Fixed it for you

[@lostbutfreesoul]

@@user-od3rl5mc Only if that person is willing to explain how they where wrong, why they changed their mind, and have made amends for any damages caused by their mistake... short of that, you are just being conned if you accept this 'belief' and/or 'change.' For that is what is really happening here... not if you or I could change our mind, but if Alex Jones is a con-man through and through. How likely is it that you or I can trust that Alex Jones even held the original belief in the first place, let alone that he has changed his opinion since then? Besides: The issue here is also one of legality - can you prove belief? If you allow someone to lie under oath and get away with it by simply claiming 'I believed...' then we have a massive problem for the legal system as a whole. Instead, if it can be shown a person is telling a falsehood under-oath, then the Court needs to have a chance to determine why the lies, and if punishment is required. During that process, it can be shown by the Prosecution why it isn't possible to reasonably have that belief. Eventually leading through Due Process to a jury listening on the case, and determining how much of a Perjurer Alex Jones is. Cause, again, I don't believe Jones when he claims he isn't still outright lying.

[@yoshimeier3060]

I guess it makes sense to have limits. Well under a million would destroy my life. But I think these caps should be based on income and wealth. Whats insane to me ist that that dude can make 50m a year and the punishment is lets say a mil. What hell learn from that is to keep soung that.

[@shannond9945]

@@lostbutfreesoul So I can properly start calling people who ‘believe’ in god liars for making false claims? After all, they can’t prove what they are saying is true or real yet say it anyway. All religion is in fact ‘belief’ based ‘truth’ founded on something someone else said/wrote. Why does the law protect some ‘false’ or unprovable belief systems/propaganda/news/faith....yet condemn it in other circumstances? Oh...because they don’t like what he was saying? Because he hurt someone’s feelings? Also, why are they looking to blame Jones for the actions of his supporters, here he has never instructed them to attack the parents? This is symbolism, not justice. Even the witness admitted it was about punishment of Jones (revenge) and not truely about compensatory damages, where they know damn well it will not change the way Jones works. Wanting something to ‘go away’ when causing televised court proceedings, a further platform for Jones to work off, is somewhat laughable. They getting paid....not making it go away. Also, since when is a witness/victim allowed to question and speak at/attack a defendant? Victim statement...ok......but lecturing the defendant ought to have been stopped!

[@Valsorayu]

We apparently live in the timeline where Ace Attorney is more realistic than actual proceedings...

[@dkupke]

Guarantee the people crying “free speech” have never actually read the first amendment.

[@Phelie315]

And they would be the first to cry for help or whine about being treated unfairly if people used their freedom of speech to spread lies about THEM.

[@hazeltree7738]

​@@Phelie315Exactly "I'm allowed to say this stupid thing, it's freedom of speech!" "And I'm free to call you an idiot" "Hey no, you can't do that"

[@jonmoore1614]

I think one of the interesting parts of this was watching Alex's lawyers careers dissolve before our eyes.

[@andrewnguyen8147]

It's just a lil disappointing that his lawyers have their careers dissolved but not Alex himself. This is probably just adding fuel to the fire that is Jones' fanbase.

[@MattExzy]

I regularly listened to Jones from 2009 until 2015. Mostly for entertainment value - some stuff I agreed with, some stuff I didn't. But when Trump nominated, you could tune in any time of day, any hour, and within a minute or two, hear him bleat the word "Trump" - over and over. And since I'm not even an American, I never really listened again because it became monotonous. But I was a listener for all the Sandy Hook stuff and it struck me how mentally ill he started to come across then. Jones is what happens when you have the patients running the asylum.

[@billy1276]

Jones lawyer was negligent, you just don't give away evidence like that to the opposing team. You can't blame people for thinking that was done on purpose. Such a blunder

[@Necrotaku999]

@@andrewnguyen8147 its what ignorance culture has

[@arndbrack2339]

@@andrewnguyen8147 The miracle of public opinion - once the house is on fire, arsonists like jones have a career.

[@XDthedevilsrejectsXD]

Imagine having to bury your child and then a shitload of people call you a liar

[@younkinjames8571]

Maybe they shouldn't lie?

[@ThanksHermione]

@@younkinjames8571 Why do you think they're lying?

[@vehx9316]

@@younkinjames8571 Maybe you should stop drinking the Kool Aid ?

[@johnkramer2144]

@@sselluoss5935 Can you prove they’re lying? Also in continuing to propagate the lie, people have gone out of their way to harass and threaten the parents. So yeah, at this point it’s harmful libel.

[@blackleague212]

@@johnkramer2144 oh please, you internet people are all the same. First Alex was " right" and all the comments supported him. Now we are on this video and you people all bash him. Its the same way with Star Wars, Disney, Game of Thrones... All of it. You people are brainwashed by media, then you come on the computer and have worthless chats in the comments. How can the stranger youre talking to, prove ANYTHING??? You question him as if that matters. None of this matters. None of it at all.

[@dietitianmama]

There's an old episode of "This American Life" the show on NPR from back in 2018 or 19 where they interviewed people who knew Alex Jones in high school weigh in on some of his early antics, the sad conclusion is that no one who knew him as a kid is surprised by his antics.

[@yatoswag]

So much information! Thank you for explaining it all in an understanding manner! BUT, I'm not quite sure I got the 8 dollar thing? >< also, who did that lawyer write the "don't lie to the jury" for? 🤔😳😅

[@AmazonianBarbarian]

Alex Jones during this trial was basically like the first guy you face off against in a Phoenix Wright game

[@Revoltine]

It's Richard Wellington all over again.

[@66666Dr]

Living in another country, being not directly affected by this all, I sincerely appreciate you, for giving this case a thorough public analysis.

[@troystaunton254]

Agreed.

[@Nuvizzle]

Honestly people like Alex Jones inspire nutjobs and grifters all around the globe to do the same thing. Wherever you live, you probably have your own miniature version of Alex Jones who's directly inspired by him.

[@kirabouwerviraltyd]

Same

[@somedragonbastard]

Note to self, don't call the judge presiding over my trial a dwarf goblin

[@haxie4516]

I'll need to make sure to bear that in mind, I'm sure it's something that comes up all the time 😂

[@militant_pacifist]

Showing pictures on you nation wide show of the judge with laser eyes and on fire is also not recommended just in case if it ever comes up.

[@haxie4516]

@@militant_pacifist Thanks, I've added that to my list of "things not to do", I'm sure it'll come up frequently 😜

[@militant_pacifist]

@@haxie4516 I know, it's truly an infringement on freedom of speech that many people suffer under.

[@haxie4516]

@@militant_pacifist What next, you're going to tell me that refusing to hand over evidence is also inadvisable?

[@TokyoChopSquad]

It's been an absolute pleasure watching Alex slowly break down in court.

[@francescalucezza687]

It’s cases like this that make me wish that there were greater penalties for perjury in civil court.

[@omagoch]

Public lashings seem like a good idea.

[@dwarf9938]

When we bringing back public hangings

[@alisilcox6036]

If hes done for aggravated (lyning in a way relevant to the outcome of the case, in the course of a trial) perjury in texas he could get jail for at least a year

[@SpXPtwn]

And mob justice... but, the non-racist, non-moron kind of mobs.

[@katiehettinger7857]

Will he be charged for perjury? If found guilty Jones could spend up to five years in prison. Maybe he will have to serve consecutive sentences for each time he committed perjury, adding up to at least 20 years.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

There's some serious irony in Jones calling someone slow, and then insulting his judge on live television. Or maybe he's just actually wealthy enough to be immune to consequences, which would be revolting in and of itself.

[@foxnfire6388]

I hope he makes a book of this that then makes hundreds of millions of dollars he then uses to go on a judge hunt. Because honestly screw the current status quo of law today. You stand on your pedestal talking about Jones and defending dead kids while you likely APPLAUD your own political side transitioning children on live tv while facing zero legal consequences from these SAME judges. You condemn Alex Jones yet likely could care less about FAR BETTER EVIDENCE against Hunter Biden for instance. So yes…I do hope I PRAY Alex Jones is standing a top a pile of money at the end of this.

[@baconatoromg6062]

Lmao you can call Alex Jones many things and have them be true. Dumb isn't one.

[@gameb9oy]

@@baconatoromg6062 guess we’ll save that insult for his fanbase then. Hi there, thanks for coming to the video.

[@SmallFaerie]

@@baconatoromg6062 What are you talking about? He is clearly extremely dumb - the reason he's succeeded with anything at all is that there are obviously plenty of people who are even dumber than he is.

[@DeathEatsCurry]

@@foxnfire6388 *couldn't care less

[@JMDarkly1]

You're doing badly in Court, so you decide to insult the Judge, Lawyers and the Jury on national TV...Interesting strategy there, Jonesy.

[@sethralston5825]

Serious question, can a civil court judge in Texas hold a person or persons in contempt? There was more than enough grounds to do so from the video shown.

[@sreddi83]

It's amazing he can do this and not get a contempt of court charge. Even more frightening is that ppl will still follow him

[@KittyKatty999]

That's what money does...

[@InfernosReaper]

if anything, excessive punishments will "legitimize" him in some people's eyes.

[@ninetailedfox579121]

@@InfernosReaper Yeah, he'll just start talking about how they're trying to take him off the air because he knows too much or some crap like that. And of course his followers will believe it without a thought.

[@nerrickk9024]

Its not hard to find sympathizers in the comment section, sadly.

[@urdaanglospey6666]

@@ninetailedfox579121 Are you intentionally implying they had a first thought?

[@benholroyd5221]

It seems crazy to me that punitive damages are capped at an absolute amount. It's meant to be punitive. If you fine musk a million dollars it's not punitive it's pocket change, whereas $100,000 would sink most people.

[@dstreetz91]

Yeah, punitive damage reform is 100% necessary, but will politicians do something about that? Nope, that could hurt their rich donors that end up in court. Punitive damage cap should be based on your net worth or annual income. Kind of like how some speeding tickets are handled in European countries, where the fine is based on the factors of how fast you were going and your income.

[@MrClickity]

Punitive damages and fines should both be based on a percentage of income/net worth, IMO.

[@CorwinAlexander]

Yep. It's written by wealthy people for other wealthy people. Wealthier people won't feel a hit from a $1,000,000 fine, while $10,000 would destroy most people.

[@cayrick]

By placing a cap on damages you do not put a restriction on the first amendment. By not capping damages you crush free speech. In affect these parents have turned a tragedy into a lottery win.

[@mcspikesky]

Tax proportional to income/wealth is fairer, but the laws aren't written by the fair now are they

[@fraterehf8788]

@1:55 😂😂😂😂 that lawyers face sums up this whole case!!!

[@wintermoons1215]

The craziest thing is when the mother asks Alex Jones if he really believes she’s an actress, and before the judge hollers at him he says starts to say no. He’s spewed all of these lies and hurt all of these poor people for years and he doesn’t even believe what he’s saying.

[@SsnakeBite]

How is Alex Jones allowed to KEEP insulting, harassing and yes, _defaming_ these families on this show during the trial _after he's already been found guilty of defaming them?!_

[@goyonman9655]

Do you intend to kill him? Slash his vocal cords

[@adriatic.vineyards]

Cuz the punitive cap falls short of permitting sewing the defendant's mouth shut with wire 😒

[@tomkelly1945]

Robbie parker is an actor

[@maikatase]

Because he can? This wasn’t a criminal lawsuit, it was a civil lawsuit.

[@comicsans3537]

Hopefully to incriminate more :/

[@tylerg3605]

Alex Jones: "The father is slow" Also Alex Jones: "I am being accused of harassing the father, let me harrass him some more, and BTW, the judge deciding my fate is a big doo doo head!"

[@John-tr5hn]

He also called her a pedophile.

[@tylerg3605]

@@John-tr5hn and a demon goblin, lol!

[@Elvan-Lady]

Lewis' necklace while she's testifying is a picture of her child. Heartbreaking.

[@deelaw.]

"Dwarf Goblin" ~ Alex Jones, not reading a fantasy book

[@thedebatehitman]

Two videos in one week! I dig it, and I look forward to your work on the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago.

[@LegalEagle]

I'm JUST getting WARMED up.

[@slake9727]

@@LegalEagle oooRAH! Love the "Scent of a Woman" reference!

[@TheJerbol]

@@LegalEagle hopefully so is the DOJ

[@snaggiz]

@@LegalEagle Don’t forget to stretch!

[@thedebatehitman]

@@LegalEagle That’s great news! Please take a little time to address the whataboutism/tu quoque fallacy regarding Hunter Biden/Hillary Clinton. Some people seem to think that the lack of a prosecution therefore means that something wasn’t investigated. For example, some are asking about the photos and videos which depict Hunter Biden consuming crack. I’ve had to point out that any prosecutor who brought such a case would get wrecked because of the abundance of reasonable doubt inherent in the case, such as: - chain-of-custody problems - inability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the substance was in fact crack or some other illicit substance - inability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the possession and consumption of the substance occurred within US territorial jurisdiction - inability to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the possession and consumption of the substance occurred within the last five years (statute of limitations) - difficulty in proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the photos and videos weren’t doctored And so on. The fact that a prosecutor chooses to not indict someone doesn’t mean that something wasn’t investigated. It just means that pursing a conviction would be a waste of resources and would constitute a fool’s errand. And of course, whataboutisms are fallacious rebuttals in the first place!

[@yobogoya4367]

Is purjury just an empty threat? I can't tell you how many times I've seen clips from inside courtrooms where people are proven to have lied, and they never catch a purjury charge.

[@Najolve]

I think it's in the fine print of bird law.

[@karlrovey]

Perjury is notoriously difficult to prove as you need to prove that it was done knowingly rather than simple ignorance, forgetfulness, etc.

[@robertthomas5906]

@@karlrovey With the texts... it would seem tough to come up with a defense. He knew.

[@cynicaldragons6239]

@@robertthomas5906 text messages are past, not present. You can't prove the absolutely recalls every text he's ever sent word for word no matter how hard you try. That's part of what makes perjury charges difficult.

[@Alfonso88279]

@@cynicaldragons6239 That's where the law doesn't work. We all know the guy is a liar, he has lied at every step of the procedure and has been caught at every step. Yet, we have to pretend like there's a reasonable doubt about he lying. It's like a freaking joke. Sometimes the law just protects the criminals.

[@ArchangelLBC]

Sorry, where in the description is the link to the earlier videos? Can't seem to find them and would love to watch them.