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@gravity-arbor6 ай бұрын
Great ad :) good cause.
@YoshiLupus6 ай бұрын
Sheesh, never thought I'd see a legendary 140 hit for 120 to the head.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Right???
@fotis3v4806 ай бұрын
Lunas howl hits for 122.😂
@Sadcatblake6 ай бұрын
@@fotis3v480i cant wait to get lunas howl
@noivern43466 ай бұрын
@@fotis3v480that was when weapons were legitimately OP in PvP
@darksphere99336 ай бұрын
@@noivern4346not forgotten nightmares
@ebas216 ай бұрын
FINALLY, a creator who says to put handling and stability over range. It's all I've heard for a yrs .... range range range. Range don't mean squat if your gun bounces everywhere
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
It takes some convincing to get me there as accuracy does so much on controller specifically, but when some of the best in the game tell me that's how it works on these, I got to at least try things out!
@pizza-for-mountains6 ай бұрын
max stability austringer is built diff
@jonahbrown56696 ай бұрын
Handling also means nothing if you don't swap a lot/are ADSing a lot. Depends on your playstyle really.
@ebas216 ай бұрын
@@Legoleflash I’m a PvP main, and to me, fluted barrel is so powerful to landing precision shots. Yes range tightens accuracy cones and all, but high recoil at 35 melters nullifies that.
@ebas216 ай бұрын
@@pizza-for-mountains exactly, I have a max stability igneous Hammer and it doesn’t miss
@chinbusy63364 ай бұрын
Midnight Coup is my favorite hand cannon thus far. My God roll has Firefly + Rampage... flared mag + chambered compensator... it and The Call are never leave my kinetic slot. Very good hand cannon and my favourite Brave weapon by far. 🍻
@RedAxel6 ай бұрын
Into the light has been a blast, so many top-tier weapons always get me excited to farm some more.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
And now they got me chasing SHINIES too!
@MohammadAliKhalil6 ай бұрын
@@Legoleflashshinies?
@stephengilmore16626 ай бұрын
If fusion man, why no fusion video🤔
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
No fusion ammo!! Haha, half kidding, I actually have tested almost all of them. Full guide soon.
@Rinickulous11066 ай бұрын
There hasnt been a new fusion. Let him cook
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
@@Rinickulous1106 🙏🙏🙏
@ShadowNemesis5756 ай бұрын
Loved everything about this interaction lol
@hue_lord_42086 ай бұрын
14:31 fusion spotted
@WrathNebula3216 ай бұрын
I'm glad you pointed out how amazing Desperate Measures is, its easily one of my favorite perks with these new Into the Light weapons and its better than Golden Tricorn in my opinion. Elsie's Rifle was the first that got me into this perk and I'm looking forward to Hammerhead here soon.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Yeah I think I'm going to make a really short Luna's Howl video because I think it's going to be the Desperate Measures king
@christopherwilliams3846 ай бұрын
Thank you Lego! That's why I like your reviews. You cover nearly all of the interactions. I saw next to no other vid mention firefly procing rampage/one for all. That's what I'm going for.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a really cool combo for solar builds and everyday content. Brings out the fun factor.
@tyreepeters37626 ай бұрын
15:10 ahh yes, offhand zen moment strike is my favorite perk
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
LOL. Minor spelling mistake but it’s an image 😅 *fades away*
@noahyoung56206 ай бұрын
My thought exactly. Lol
@JetEye-Knight6 ай бұрын
Moving target opening shot been the best feeling for me so far in this PvP
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL46 ай бұрын
Ok so before anyone does anything with recoil I need everyone to please take into consideration this very important thing that I think is missed: The first 2 shots are directly above each other at base 80 recoil. You can even see it in this video. The visuals of the gun kicks to the right once you shoot the 2nd shot but if you look at where it lands it's right above the first shot, making those first 2 shots much easier to land. Now although the following shots will kick more and more, you can kind of see that its following a pretty similar pattern of 2 shots being more vertical and then kicking to the right after that 2nd shot. It deviates more and more horizontally after the 2nd shot which can make it feel a little awkward in PvE but in PvP, those first 2 shots being completely vertical is important. As long as you take into consideration that nudge to the right on the 3rd shot, it can be very consistent at base 80.
@noahyoung56206 ай бұрын
That is a very good observation. I noticed that but didn't think anything of it, but recognizing that and being able to predict your aim off of it is really handy.
@kenzilbaptiste25196 ай бұрын
So you discovered DETERMANISTIC recoil that bungie been pushing into the game 2 seasons now .......
@BigPapasmurf846 ай бұрын
desperate measures also work with glaives. Melee with a glaive and swap back to Midnight coup. Easy 30% increase👍
@peacelovemetal51976 ай бұрын
Love the video! You always manage to bring something new to the table with these reviews. Specifically about the Rose comparison: It's a lightweight frame with Slideshot, which dramatically boosts it's range for free more or less and also lets you close the gap far more easily. Definitely think Midnight Coup has some interesting combos, particularly Zen Moment plus Explosive Payload as the ultimate dueling roll. And while the exact amount hasn't been measured, Zen Moment got altered a few months ago to add actually flinch resistance.
@BirdMoose6 ай бұрын
For most cases I agree in not liking Kinetic Tremors on a hand cannon, but for Day 1 and other low light activities the perk is a godsend. On my teams day 1 Crota I was using a KT weapon which made dealing with the boomer knights so much easier, as the shots to proc the perk would do about half the health, and the tremors would do the other half. Not sure how good it is on a 140 HC, but I'm for sure going to pick one up just for the possibility.
@d43m0n4126 ай бұрын
riptide btw before i begin... the only thing i could possibly say for the pve side would be that if you are going to go with frenzy you might as well pair it with extended mag... and the reason being that you are going to have 100 reload anyways so if you are going that route having just more ammo in the mag can and will save you in certain situations especially the next time that hcs get to be a champ weapon like if they are again unstop or if they become anti-barrier just having the extra few rounds in the mag is just so nice to have and if you feel like thats a little overkill then atleast think about having tactical mag... really on most guns you cannot go wrong in pve with tactical mag regardless of what the rest of the roll looks like cause you get a few extra bullets and also if for some reason you arent maxed out on reload it can help with that small reload boost... just my thoughts but found the rest of the video to be insightful and glad i watched it all the way to the end
@user-c4b9b6 ай бұрын
16:31 "if you haven't seen him blow with a hand cannon"
@bonefat216 ай бұрын
Could you imagine EP proccing kinetic tremors with three shots in PvP? Talk about game-breaking.
@MaiheroXDraws6 ай бұрын
I love how you broke everything down in this video and time stamped everything , keep up the great work.
@csnation6 ай бұрын
Desperate measure is a very slept on perk for specifically punchy Titans. Punchy/bonk Titans typically wear Synthos or Wormgods, your regular punches already bonk most red bars. But sometimes you don't feel like punching things that blow up in your face or it is a little too far away. Then your gun (insert brave gun of choice) can do the rest.
@jamieharper10516 ай бұрын
Hell desperate measures works on non power melee just a punch
@NishantSharma_NehaVashishta6 ай бұрын
@legoleflash minor nitpick. having relevant information in the bottom center of the screen means that the subtitles can cover it. maybe worthwhile to move that ads falloff distance further into the center of the frame
@l3ftie5786 ай бұрын
my first shiny coup is extended barrel, tac mag, EP/firefly, rampage/OFA, and range mw. It's absurdly good, i would have probably wanted something like zen to try out in pvp instead of rampage and some other column 2 but I'm not even mad
@Notic.6 ай бұрын
I think genuinely the biggest reason for Zen Moment is simply the flinch resistance. It seriously makes such a big difference especially when going against anything explosive payload, like I wish I could use damage perks, but the lobbies that I get just absolutely require only consistency perks. Personally I do not care what handcannons' on paper are better, this thing having 90 aim assist base is just unreal. Feels like OG last word on controller, aiming at shins hittin heads 😎.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
" but the lobbies that I get just absolutely require only consistency perks" oh I completely feel ya there. I feel that way with a lot of other guns for sure.
@Notic.6 ай бұрын
@@Legoleflash I gotta say though, when you do happen to just say "screw it" im gonna try to get this two tap, and then you do. Oh my such an empowering feeling!
@ExpertRam6 ай бұрын
I think you definitely changed my mind on desperate measures, I’m converted. I’m not sold on it’s PvP performance though, I don’t see a real reason to replace my austringer with my play style
@Sneeks4166 ай бұрын
About the recoil, I actually *prefer* the recoils bouncing to the right. Since the recoil animation bounces up to the right, the recoil bouncing to the right as well means the gun isn’t going to block what you’re shooting at
@gabrielgardner20546 ай бұрын
It feels like the original midnight to me so I was already pretty used to the recoil and I think it isn’t too bad the main thing is the range imo you have to be aware to close the gap or youll be outranged by other hand cannons
@kyloben85376 ай бұрын
they literally made every weapon from this update damn beastly....
@vlogfriendsutopia6 ай бұрын
I'd like to see a lucky pants comparison between a vorpal Warden's Law and your preferred Midnight Coup.
@mitchamazingell16 ай бұрын
Lego, it's cold that you think this is correct weapon in slot to 2-tap, if I'm using Riptide to 1-tap.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
😭😭🤣🤣
@akerue38246 ай бұрын
That's cos riptide is also a 2 tap 😂
@Etechtroniks6 ай бұрын
Just rolled hammerforged, acc rounds, explosive and des measures. Also got the range MW💪🏿💪🏿 thats a 5/5 for me
@samuelviden74126 ай бұрын
I have a smallbore, Firefly and OFA with range MW (shiny), and one non shiny ER+OFA, the former being my favorite.
@scottricks16762 ай бұрын
Side note, desperate measures pairs really well with the other gun having steady hands. Like harmony swap on crack!
@fredericmozart9596 ай бұрын
1:52 what? I haven’t seen this particular map in literally months!
@MrMightyZ5 ай бұрын
In my experience in PVE with explosive I like Frenzy because it’s the easiest to proc and has, by far, the most uptime for me. I haven’t calculated and filmed myself but I won’t be surprised if I’m always doing way more literal dps with frenzy. (One for all is my least favourite because it’s a pain to keep activated constantly forcing me to aquire targets I don’t want to. You’ve inspired me to try base recoil direction again. Especially because I thought visual and actual was always 1:1! Mind. Blown.
@DeepSeaProctologist6 ай бұрын
So... if I understood the God Roll section correctly it's just put this in the vault and run Riptide?
@Waxedem91992 ай бұрын
The hype during into the light was so fun I miss it
@bandito_boye52356 ай бұрын
That intro goes so hard, Legoleflash doesn't miss in his vid quality
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
The amount of time I spend on those is kinda crazy, but worth it!
@AceInTheSpade6 ай бұрын
Your video quality, info, and delivery never cease to impress. Honestly, if I could make even just 1/4 as good as videos as you do, I'd be happy.
@blebreton066 ай бұрын
One for all plus radiant pfft, only in 6’s and rarely at that. I’m sticking to my dragonfly zen for the easy clean up 2 taps in hand holding 🤖
@notchs0son6 ай бұрын
I still don’t understand why people think explosive payload is like hitting twice. Grenade launcher direct hits like with edge transit for deconstruction. But if you give it sticky nades you do get two Different hits. Because you’re smacking with the projectile, and then exploding. Explosive payload is just bullet grenades they hit with an explosion, kinetic tremors does attrition orbs because it’s another hit from the weapons dmg.
@ZeeSips6 ай бұрын
You forgot that Adrenaline Junkie is available on Fatebringer 6:30
@imcubanbe38416 ай бұрын
Been waiting for your take on this hand cannon, I'm dead serious you are a beast with the numbers! keep up the great work!
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Hey thank you!!
@TBraindead816 ай бұрын
Liked your explanation dude. Now I know what to really try and look for. I have 10 of them in my vault. Free up some space now.
@williamcolbert9966 ай бұрын
As long as I've been playing DESTINY (1 & 2), I've struggled to fully understand the importance and synergy of all of these perks! I've probably deleted God knows how many potential god-rolls because I didn't know they all worked. Now, I understand a lot more thanks to this video. Subscribed!
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
This is amazing to hear! Thank you for commenting!
@CollaateraL6 ай бұрын
Thank you bro 🐐 Edit!.. are you working on a newly updated tier list now charge time dosent effect damage and obviously the many other changes as well?? Thanks dude!
@zackreph9396 ай бұрын
Is that a new intro graphic? It looks clean as hell!
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Hey thanks! Started using it a bit ago (might forget it here or there, haha) but wanted to do something quick and clean to remind people they are watching the same guy! ha!
@mazzitv72506 ай бұрын
The way you manufacture content for destiny is so satisfying to watch. Please make more content. You’re awesome at what you do - mazzi_
@InFamousProductions6 ай бұрын
Well that was confusing haha I now just want to try every combo and go with what feels good
@JH-vb1wo6 ай бұрын
I am impressed with this hand cannon in pvp I got a moving target zen moment roll and range is only 55 but even with lower stats it competes very well and usually guns with these stats are pretty bad but this is one of those that stats don’t matter to much. Also I got a pve roll of explosive plus frenzy then a roll with firefly kinetic tremors. Lots of great rolls
@getmoney60216 ай бұрын
Let me say my girl got me the lawnmower and I’ve never been able to trim like that ever! If you need a clean down there don’t sleep on it. 😂
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Haha!! Going to send this review straight to my manscaped contact! 😅
@scottricks16762 ай бұрын
Damn gun shifted me to a 140 main….gun is in a class of its own.
@cjwalker21496 ай бұрын
No cap I really like fire fly idk what perks go best with it
@dimas26ru22 күн бұрын
I think Hawkmoon would be better for the controller, it has great comfort, stability, and first shot characteristics, and most importantly, a high "aiming assist" parameter. What do you think?
@Stodds136 ай бұрын
You have wrong info on the Time Lost Fatebringer. The damage gets higher than frenzy. My Time Lost Fatebringer has Explosive Payload in the 3rd and I have Firefly or Kill Clip in the 4th. Firefly is crazy fun and what I run most but if I want big damage in PvE or when I’m using it in PvP I switch to Kill Clip. Explosive Payload with Kill Clip will definitely do more damage than EP and Frenzy!! Also, have people not crafted a Doom of Chelchis with Ehanced Explosive Payload and Ehanced One for All?!? I’ve had that combo on that scout for over a year and a half already!! Midnight Coup is not the first gun with this combo!! Love the video though!! Love how much you covered with all the combos!!
@jazcuddy21125 ай бұрын
Got a roll with firefly, explosive payload - kinetic tremor, desperate measures. So thats good news
@dellyshoppe46 ай бұрын
I need Legoleflash and Coolguy to collab n a video for a gun. Just once.
@DrexelQuake27 күн бұрын
So Firefly and Desperate Measures is a good combo? Because it’s the best roll i could get lately. Not one explosive payload roll
@Heli6 ай бұрын
i love your editing workrate brother, excellent video 💙
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Heli!! Thank you as always!!!
@MrDeworDie5 ай бұрын
Im guessing you've got a big video coming since we haven't heard from you in a bit. Hope all is well, and i look forward to your next video.
@rothundra73106 ай бұрын
Firefly, desperate measures. Got it. I love firefly one for all on my doom of chelchis. Great breakdown buddy.
@indysrebel51816 ай бұрын
Pve I enjoy firefly and kinetic tremors
@danielcolt55426 ай бұрын
Idk personally I feel like if the content is hard enough i want kinetic tremors and if its not then i dont really need crazy damage like one for all explosive payload
@Mampfie6 ай бұрын
thats all great and all but trimmers ALWAYS work, you dont need a kill to trigger it
@Paradox6796 ай бұрын
This is the only riptide I have left lol
@AKSBSU5 ай бұрын
A higher number in Recoil Direction isn't always automatically better. 90 is better than 80, but 85 is going to be better than either. You want the second digit of the number to end as close to 5 as possible or 100 max.
@Legoleflash5 ай бұрын
Not always true with the new predictable recoil system the implemented a few months ago. It was a general rule of thumb, but things vary a bit more now
@GameMediaOutlet5 ай бұрын
great video and excellent data and research.... we need more youtubers to put in this level of details with gun reviews
@BEMEiTY6 ай бұрын
Eyyy bruh, your PvP Coup that’s two tapping 6 resilience with desperate measures what’s that full roll? 1. 2. 3. 4. Thank you!
@gommyboi3806 ай бұрын
Honestly the only role i want is explosive payload zen moment (for pvp). Ive gotten like over 10k kills over multiple fatebringer rolls and when using midnight coup for a little bit i just feel like “why wouldnt i just run fatebringer?” And the only roll fatebringer cant get is zen moment ep.
@gommyboi3806 ай бұрын
especially cause they didnt give it like perpetual motion or slideshot or rapid hit like the other old 150s, so you can get that stat staircase but still have like 65-70 range.
@Heroiixz6 ай бұрын
Which weapon should i attune first? I want a shine version god roll for the top 3 new onslaught weapons (edge transit, mountain top, midnight coup or elsies rifle is my guess)
@IsuhHa6 ай бұрын
Just found your channel, but dropping a riptide. Awesome content really thorough
@_BELMONT_6 ай бұрын
fantastic video Lego!
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Wiiiiilson! I'm a real youtuber now 🤣
@joemarshall42546 ай бұрын
Great info!
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate you being here!
@skuirrelTV6 ай бұрын
Best D2 vids on KZbin
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Yo! Thank you as always!!
@abyssal_beans6 ай бұрын
Midnight Coup is really good, but for pve hand canons, optative remains my one true love.
@CanadianCampPurr6 ай бұрын
Love your video, one question where do you get your stats on weapons?.
@thenexus73436 ай бұрын
Moving target would make Midnight coup better than Rose if it didnt have slide shot.
@armando1176 ай бұрын
Bro, are we gonna be able to enhance regular Into the Light weapons or shinies only? Thx!
@TheDeadlyefx4 ай бұрын
Fatebringer can get a higher damage buff in the right column than frenzy: kill clip
@bobwill61476 ай бұрын
What do you use to record you audio? I need better audio for my videos
@invadertrig6 ай бұрын
Oh this is why I was getting 2 tapped on my first day back in crucible.
@travfromthelou6 ай бұрын
I got ext barrel, acc rounds, moving target, rampage and a range masterwork.
@itchyisvegeta2 ай бұрын
Is this the gun that random drops from Onslaughts? Looks like the sniper rifles I just got from doing them.
@joshr13036 ай бұрын
great weapon review thanks lego! now i know what rolls to look for :)
@Truds6 ай бұрын
Argh Thumbnail and Intro and Video go so hard 🤩
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Truds!!!! Thanks man!!!
@KalarMeadia6 ай бұрын
This gun has the visisual recoil of Sunshot. Sunshot mains are looking at others using this gun going. Ha! First time?
@MrAndrew0511Ай бұрын
One for all should not be active in pvp just saying. It should be based on damaging combatants.
@yankeesusa16 ай бұрын
I have so many rolls i love on this thing. What about moving target and Zen moment for pvp, or firefly and one for all for pve?
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
Yeah those are great too! I think Firefly and One For All is really fun, and probably the main Lucky Pants roll I'd go for. Moving Target and Zen might be preferable to me to if I wanted to use Zen. I prefer opening shot but I like moving target so much I kind of want it on everything!
@seaturtleninjagaming46026 ай бұрын
Since the rework zen isnt just visual. It always had some bloom mitigation but they added stability and flinch resistance Agree that zen probably isnt the play on Coup, austringer gets better stability and makes up for bad handling with Snap. The damage roll on Coup is what makes it special. And that sound it makes.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
The statements I made are backed by the d2 scientists who test all the perks for the perk descriptions on any d2 site you use. So yes, it has flinch resistance, that’s why I said outside flinch resistance, but that’s all
@scottricks16764 ай бұрын
Also….the gun sounds sweet :). Awesome vid! I pretty much take your word as law. You have never lead me wrong!
@brooksblanton88616 ай бұрын
Got myself a shiny with EP and moving target first column, frenzy and opening shot in second column. Probably just going to run with this for now until I’ve got all my weapon quests done and then attune it, but I still feel like Lunas will beat this out
@kaizen_50916 ай бұрын
riptide.... uh, ye, awesome content, super informative 👌😁
@lttlen6 ай бұрын
Midnight coup is my new favorite HC. I’m not taking it off for a long long time.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone. I think it’s my new universal fav. Not the best at PvP, but the best in-between of all activities? Probably so.
@gamingandgardening77296 ай бұрын
What are the perks to make it 2 shot?
@xXBallistic82Xx6 ай бұрын
I hate how 1 for all has to run out before you can re-proc it.
@BronzeDragon00096 ай бұрын
Perfect implies better than others. Austringer has a farther 3 tap, can get 99 stability, has zen moment and is craftable. Not really much of a comparison there.
@BoomerCosmo6 ай бұрын
Watching this after I dismantled like 20 of these guns really hurts but I will watch anyway haha
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
😅😅 ah! I wish I could have got it out sooner but had a bunch of video gigs this week. Have some BIG ideas for Luna's Howl I'll hopefully get out fast.
@sabetheblade6 ай бұрын
time to farm a better EP/OFA roll nice breakdown 😇 knew this would be the only thing to compete with my current ep frenzy fatebringer
@hearshot1876 ай бұрын
Great video, tons of good info.
@mbostic51936 ай бұрын
It's a shame it looks like the old glade battery-operated room deodorizer with a handle glued to it.
@TimothyMark76 ай бұрын
I wonder what was the music you used at the video end credits, it's a banger.
@Legoleflash6 ай бұрын
It's Atlas by Roary! They make great instrumentals for licensing!
@TimothyMark76 ай бұрын
@@Legoleflash thanks lad
@TadyGloo6 ай бұрын
Yo, do you know if desperate measures work with glaive melee kills when the HC is stowed ?