LESS THAN $3,000 7.2.4 Immersive Dolby Atmos Setup | Costco + @Klipsch

LESS THAN $3,000 INSANE 7.2.4 Immersive Dolby Atmos Setup | Costco + @Klipsch
In this video, I go over steps to getting a POWERFUL 7.2.4 Dolby Atmos setup from scratch that completely envelopes you in mind-melting audio. LET'S GET INTO IT!
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DISCLAIMER!!!
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*It's been brought to my attention by @Techno Dad that the Denon X3700H and Marantz 6015 do have some limitations I wasn't aware of. 1) All mentions of being able to make a 9.2.2 configuration are NOT true. Both receivers only support 7 ear-level speakers, and 2) only the 2 front or 2 rear height channels can be externally powered, unless ALL channels are externally powered. Sorry for any confusion! And Thanks for the heads up, @Techno Dad !!
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VIDEO CHAPTERS
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0:00​ Intro
0:44​ Disclaimer
1:07​ ONE: Denon AVR-X3700H (and other receivers)
2:32​ TWO: AudioSource AMP100VS External Amp
4:20​ THREE: Klipsch 5.0.2 Dolby Atmos Surround System
5:27​ FOUR: Klipsch R-12SW Subwoofers
6:15​ FIVE: 14 AWG Speaker Wire from Monoprice
6:47​ SIX: Speaker Arrangements
8:30 RECAP
9:35​ Bloopers
9:55​ Outro
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[@JonMoralesLA]

The Denon 4700h gets you Auro 3D for a few hundred dollars more than the 3700h. If you care about Atmos then you would love Auro 3D. It has an excellent upmixer that actually utilizes the height speakers far more effectively and consistently than Atmos. Also allows for a far easier speaker setup where you use height speakers above your front and rear speakers. You don’t mount in ceiling and the enveloping sound effect is amazing and still works for Atmos as well.

[@MW-wp5fb]

Dude, you are the mannnnnn. Your channel should be called” I’ll find a deal”

[@ealanosborne]

Haha, thanks! 😄

[@sebastian7539]

You're telling me I have to upgrade again? First the $1000 setup, then the $1500 setup, and now the $3000 setup?? LOL

[@davidarambulo00]

I think he is laying out options that best fit or interest you. I am building an auro 3d set up based off his info and along with what I learned from other KZbinrs as well.

[@joemamma2119]

I've just recently started looking into turning my 1 car garage into a full on theater room. These videos are amazing breaking down cost and set up! Subscribed!

[@RahzAlGhul]

Hey that’s a great ass idea! Make sure you do proper sound treatment

[@flim-flammington]

I went klipsch for all my speakers but heard very MEH things about their subwoofers. Definitely paid a lot more for mine but no regrets with my double SVS-PB-1000. Like i said though i never even tried the klipsch sub so i can't make a fair comparison just saying i'm in love with my SVS. Also don't have to worry about timbre matching for the sub as far as i know.

[@CptaiNPogo]

Appreciation post! Thanks for all the insight you provide, you explain things so well and calmly and you emphasize words at the right time. Your formatting reminds me a lot of Bill Nye! I came on a super deal, got the Klipsch Atmos 5.0.2 speakers, 2 R12-SW, and 2 extra R-41M for $900! I picked up brand new R-41SA for my Atmos speakers for $150 so now I have a 7.2.4 for $1050!! I was originally only doing a 5.1.2 system but things happen for a reason. Can’t wait to get my first start on a home theater! Probably will get exactly this same set-up with the 3700h with a Russound P75. Thoughts on the P75 vs your 2ch external amp? THANKS FOR THE HELPFUL CONTENT SENSAI

[@ealanosborne]

I appreciate your appreciation post! 😄 That’s a killer setup! So stoked for you! Since posting this video, the Emotiva BasX Gen 2 amp series has come out, which I would honestly lean towards more. They have a 2 channel amp all the way up to 7 channel, so lots to choose from! 🤘

[@josealfredfernandes]

@@ealanosborne Tonewinner AT 300 wants to know your location

[@div0007]

Bruh could you please elaborate on how were you able to snag all those speakers for $900?

[@leonsaha1543]

dude I love your video editing, like when you show the information of the receiver/subs with the music its so satisfying

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you, Leon!

[@MarkfromLI]

I got this Costco 5.0.2 package with one sub and the Denon S750H from Costco also. The package is amazing! Just under $1,700 including tax. I am loving it!

[@ealanosborne]

That's awesome! I love seeing comments from actual living people who have benefited from Costco's insane deals! :)

[@TheDoozie43]

That’s a nice receiver! Still enjoy my s930h.

[@glofishvidz]

Just bought a variation of this. I got the marantz 9.2 but instead of the towers I got 6X RP bookshelf speakers, 4X RP atmos, and the RP center. Very excited

[@ealanosborne]

WHOA! What an incredible system! 💯🤘

[@moe61806]

I watched your previous video and did the 5.1.2 paired up to a Denon X2700H.. I love it! Thanks for the advice!

[@ealanosborne]

Woohoo! Glad I could help!

[@volovikovdaniel]

Hi. Did your setup is Klipsch reference theater pack with the r-12sw and Denon avr x2700h? If yes how is it? 🙏

[@Alex4SiliconValley]

I have a 7.1 bookshelf speaker system setup at home and it sounds okay. Way more than I need. I use a Klipsch sound bar 40 as my everyday speaker and I often think I have my 7.1 system on. It sounds that good. These modern soundbars with subwoofer sound really good.

[@SkittlesScott]

I think I would go with the (1) Klipsch R-820FB Reference Floor-standing Speakers - Black - Pair Klipsch R-52C Center Channel Speaker - Black Klipsch R-41M Reference Bass-Reflex Design Bookshelf Speakers - Black - Pair Klipsch R-120SW Powered 12 ” Subwoofer - Black all of this costs 2000 CAD I would also go for that receiver (AVR-X3700H) for 1900 CAD I would get in-ceiling speakers at a later date but they would be the Klipsch CDT-5650-C II 6.5″ In-Ceiling Speaker (4) @1160 Cad for all of them. the total price of this system would be 5000 CAD before tax and all the necessary wires and little things like that. (I am from Canada) later down the road, I could add surrounds to the setup and a 2ch amp.

[@mandoogamoose]

Dear Mr. Osborne, I’m purchasing a new home theater system and I wanted to thank you for guiding me in my decisions w/ your videos. The following are what I’m purchasing; Denon AVR-X4700H ($1,799), the Klipsch Reference Dolby Atmos Surround System from Costco ($899), Dual SVS PB-1000- Pro Subwoofers ($1,149), and a sound path wireless Audio Adapter for a subwoofer ($119). I have a large living room w/ vaulted ceilings so I believe the extra power may be appreciated. Super stoked. Thanks again. Mike

[@ealanosborne]

Damn...that’s gonna be a VERY nice system. Having the duel PB-1000 Pros alone will fill that living room with so much good bass. My review of the PB-1000 Pro will be out next week! 🙌

[@coreyconway]

That Denon is on my list of a few. I can't decide. Why did you choose this model?

[@mandoogamoose]

@@coreyconway Greetings Mr. Conway. So, my friend is an audiophile and owns a Marantz. He has a professional recording studio and is extremely knowledgable in this area. He has had some issues with his Marantz and decided to go with Denon. Now we only had to decide which one to purchase. As you are probably aware, there are 3 tiers: 3700 ($1,300), 4700 ($1,800), & the 6700 ($2,600). The 3700 is 105W per channel for $1,300, The middle tier is $500 more ($1,800) and puts out 125w per channel. Then the tier 1… the 6700 ($2,600), puts out 140w per channel. It just doesn’t seem worth it (to me), to pay $800 more for 15 watts.The 4700 is an amazing deal. The 3700 & 4700 are both FUTURE PROOF. Denon is a smart decision. I don’t want to regret not going for the extra power for only $500 more. I purchased a BOSE Lifestyle system 10 years ago and I’m finally ready to move up. I own a home with a large room. If I lived in an apartment I would go for the 3700. I hope this helps.

[@coreyconway]

@@mandoogamoose @M M Great points & I totally agree that extra money for 15 watts is not worth it. I was leaning towards the 4700 so now I am dead set on that one. I am going to check out those subs you mentioned as well. The Costco deal is a a must on my list. Thanks

[@mandoogamoose]

@@ealanosborne Cheers Mr. Osborne! So I got my system and it’s all set up! I mentioned to you before that I was going to get it. Well I got it! 1. Denon AVR-X4700H 9.2 Ch. 8K AV receiver 2. Costco- Klipsch Reference Dolby Atmos Surround System 3. Dual SVS PB-1000 Pro Subwoofers It sounds phenomenal. I find myself listening to music like a teenager. It’s so different and crisp and beautiful. Again, Thank you for guiding me with your informative videos. Now it’s time to find a good TV. My LG OLED has burn marks all over it. I do not recommend an OLED for video games or KZbin. Incidentally, I am very grateful for your humorous and informative videos. Take care. Yours truly, Mike Margulies

[@thenonexistinghero]

I boughted Samsung HW-Q990B for less than €900. Great sound for movies, music and games. One of the best soundbars available and actually dirt cheap with a discount compared to the competition (which are still waaaaay more expensive even with discounts). I suppose you can get better sound by spending way more money. But I'm good.

[@ealanosborne]

True. The Q990B is top tier. 🤘

[@alexfernandez7529]

That’s an amazing sound set up! ?Where’s the TV to enjoy the amazing surround sound? I spent a little over $2k on a a complete 5.2 surround sound system AND a 1080P Ultra Short throw projector with a 92” screen. I would have purchased a 4K Ultra Short Throw projector, but those projectors alone are in the $2K price range. I’m still waiting for them to come down in price. I did use your Costco tip and got the 12” Klipsch Sub. Thank you and I really like your videos.

[@jreagle18]

Do the 4k UST Samsung

[@alexfernandez7529]

@@jreagle18 I just checked pricing and the Samsung 4K UST projector is about $3500. Still out of my build budget. I’m quite happy with the Optoma GT5600 UST projector. I am starting to see some very good 4K UST in the low $2K range though.

[@richs347]

Hey man your video got me into buying the $899.99 Costco Klipsch Dolby Atmos speakers, Costco is also have a sale on their Klipsch Subs for $149.99 so I bought two of that now I have 5.2.2. I will get 2 more Atmos and 2 more surround channel for 7.2.4 system. I spent some $ on the Denon 6700H receiver with is $2599 somewhere else.

[@ealanosborne]

Whoa nice! That Denon is super nice, so you’ll enjoy that for sure! How exciting!

[@jon1913]

Today, with a mix of new and used components, you can get a similar setup for $1k. I recently purchased a Denon AVR-X4500H from ebay for $400, I got monoprice monolith encore T5s for LCR (acoustically transparent screen lets me use towers for center channel) for $280 new, 2 identical sets of Klipsch 5.1 speakers off Facebook for $100 total (not the best but fine for surround and height), and an older denon 5.1 amp from Facebook for $30. I also got a used Epson L1100u for my projector from ebay for $500 that throws an absolutely amazing image on my 150" DIY spandex screen. So after room calibration, EQing and video calibration, my $1400 home theater punches way above its weight. 6000 lumen "4k enhanced" on my 150" screen with 7.2.4 Dolby atmos. I'm very happy with it and won't worry about upgrading for a couple more years.

[@ealanosborne]

Hell yeah! Excellent bargain hunting, my friend! 🤘🎉

[@safwandalbadalsa8388]

All these sales and bundles in Costco/Amazon US are very nice. In Malaysia all these items are crazy expensive. the best deal I can get here is Denon X1600H, a pair of R-610F, R-34C center speaker, a pair of R-51M, R-100SW 10" subwoofer, 100ft speaker cable for 2100 USD

[@ealanosborne]

Yikes! Yeah, sorry about that. Most of my audience is in the U.S., but I hope to do more videos that are internationally friendly. 😀 Thanks for watching!

[@GamezGuru1]

What if one really doesn't like the upfiring Atmos speakers, and wants 4 proper in-ceiling speakers?

[@wimdy3480]

It’s wireless with a sound bar in front but it’s a really good system for $2000 Nakamichi shockwafe 9.2.4. Best option for non permanent setups with minimal wires

[@o.c.g.m9426]

Each sub still connect to two wires not to mention each sub needs to be powered. If in hiding all that wiring with Legrand wire hiders. I might as well have a 5.2.4 with PRESENT front speakers

[@rogalniz]

Could you make a video on the best setup regardless of budget? Using whichever you think is the best speakers and whatnot

[@ibraheemnader]

Hey just making sure I understand, you can’t externally power the other 2 Atmos speakers, because in the description it says that only front 2 or rear 2 can be externally powered. I was about to buy this but I’m very glad I read the description.

[@ealanosborne]

This is true if you’re trying to utilize a combo of both internal and external amps. If your AVR supports “preamp” mode, you could power ALL your speakers externally - front 2 AND rear heights. Otherwise, yes, it’s either front 2 OR rear heights.

[@ibraheemnader]

@@ealanosborne thank you for the reply, and nice vids😉

[@dddmmm21]

Dude... I finally got who you resemble... It was floating in my mind... the Sherminator!!

[@garyharper2943]

I went with 5.1.4. Got a refurbed Yamaha 2080 for $850, really like it hope I don’t get upgraditist.

[@castro619a]

Can you go over media sources, like what you use for atmos streaming

[@medijaster]

The Nvidia Shield Pro will output everything, and it supports atmos on all streaming services. The fire stick 4k also works well but there's no atmos support for Netflix (so only Disney+ and Prime video). If you have a plex server (if not you should research, it makes watching your physical media library so much easier and convenient ), the shield will play lossless Dolby TrueHD Armos tracks AND lossless DTS:X (DTS-HD MA:7.1) tracks

[@scottd0866]

Hello!! I bought this whole system exactly as you described it (9.2.2) however only questions we have is how to hook up what and where. Can you give a quick rundown about how to hook up the DENON AVR (such as which preouts to use for the amplifier, and which speakers should be in what port).. any guidance would be appreciated!

[@ealanosborne]

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[@denziiey]

I'm glad I came across this channel. Fresh audiophile content

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks so much!

[@James-hc8wu]

Please don't take this as accurate knowledge.... this is basically inaccurate information... please follow a channel that is accredited and the people know what they are doing ...

[@denziiey]

@@James-hc8wu I follow several channels like youthman, hometheater guy, subwoofer101. And others who use quantitative Data. It's just nice to hear perspective from a novice person in the industry.

[@mattpipke5716]

@@James-hc8wu Seeing that what he is mainly doing is showing the sound bar market hey you can build a system for less than these sound bars, and here are a few ways you can do that, these videos are great for people like me who wanted more than a sound bar but had more questions than answers and wasnt sure it could even be done. I built my system based on these videos and until I found them, I was thinking my only choice was a sound bar, so I found them very helpful.

[@matthewb.1687]

@@James-hc8wu this is the best build a home theater on a budget channel I have ever seen. Why are you knocking him? Most average consumers are not audiophiles and would be extremely happy with even his 833 dollar home theater option.

[@giacintorenta7579]

What would be useful a video or a comment about the best inputs. For example best to use Apple TV 4K for Atmos or Amazon Fire TV 4k Max? Might also depend on the TV. Some might have better pass through than others, Dolby MAT vs DD+, etc.

[@danhelmoran6275]

Thank you for taking the and making this bundles, because of your recommendation I got the 1500 dollars package with the avr s750h from Denon and it is amazing.. 👍

[@ealanosborne]

That’s awesome!!! Glad I could help! 😀🙌

[@ivana6141]

Can I get a similar budget setup using one 7.2 atmos receiver to handle the surround LR and surround back LR and a 9.2 receiver to pump out the remaining floor channels plus 4 height channels for a 7.2.4 configuration? Only asking because I picked up a 7.2 receiver dirt cheap and hope to add extra to it in the future.

[@ealanosborne]

No, sorry. That is unless your 7.2 AVR has a 7.1 analog audio input section on the rear. That’s the only way you can use an AVR as a standalone amp 🤷‍♂️

[@darryl286]

Thanks, Dr. Strange for your help for me, not to spending $10.000 for an amazing Dolby Atmos

[@MrAimar4]

I would buy another receiver to match with this system. I would go with Yamaha RX 2080 or new model Yamaha A6A or little lower models like Yamaha RX1080 or new model Yamaha A4A. Yamaha has great processing, great central channel processing, does not overheat, generally Aventage line is great receivers. Also Dacs on Yamahas are great (Digital to analog converter). Denon/Marantz product I personally will not buy. They overheat, hot like oven. Also I personally don't like central channel processing on their receivers: its muddy. This is my personal experience with both manufacturers. Thanks. Hope this will help. P.S. I got rid of my Denon x4700h and bought Yamaha RX 2080. Very very happy. Also for music Yamaha in my opinion is much better: also great MusicCast App.

[@sebastian7539]

You should do a review on the Klipsch Heritage Wireless The Three II Tabletop Stereo!

[@ealanosborne]

Buy me some and I will! 😄 J/k, I am curious about those speakers, so that would be a cool video to do.

[@ThanhNguyen-og8pe]

The following gears are bought at Costco. I want to add 2 more bookshelf for the surround back. I was wondering if I need a 9 channel receiver or can I just get the AMP100VS to power the 2 surround back to achieve 7.2.2. Yamaha TSR-700 2x R-625FA 1x R-52C 4x R-41M

[@ealanosborne]

Great question! But unfortunately the TSR-700 can only handle processing 7 channels. I know on the back it has enough terminals to hook up 9 speakers, but it can’t process ALL of them, just either Surround Back OR Front Presence, not both. Just a software limitation on Yamaha’s part. Lame. So yes you would need a 9 channel amp to achieve 7.2.2. Onkyo is coming out with a new TX-RZ50 this month that I’m excited for. It’ll handle up to 7.2.4 with the help of an external amp. 👍

[@GivinguSwineFlu]

Great video!!! The only thing I would change is the External amp to the OSD Nero XA5180 for $699 U are getting 120w on all 5 channels, Or u could just use 3 ch and get 200w. Which those klipsch speakers would love all that power.

[@ealanosborne]

Exactly! Just tailor it to your own needs! That’s a great amp, for sure.

[@GivinguSwineFlu]

@@ealanosborne keep up the good work!!

[@michaelgayle7001]

Ealan, I’ve purchased most of the components you’ve listed. However, I got a pair of R-51M bookshelf speakers for $217 and a pair of R-41M bookshelf speakers. Where would you recommend I place the R-51M? I plan on the 9.2.2 or 7.2.4 setup. Should I take back the R-51M and get another R-41M?

[@ealanosborne]

The R-51s are little bigger, so that’s great! Use them for your surrounds (the speakers that go directly to the sides of your couch). And truth be told, I put a disclaimer in the video’s description that states I was wrong about the X3700H being able to handle 9 ear-level channels. It can’t. But you can still do a 7.2.4 setup with it. But just be aware that the extra 2 channel amp can only be assigned to power either the front left and right speakers, or the rear height channels. Something Denon purposely limits, so if you want 9 ear-level channels, you’ll have the get their more expensive receivers. Lame. 😄

[@user-er5mr6rh3n]

loved the video! do you have a video about the correlation between the receiver's output power to the speakers SENSITIVITY?

[@richardhaug]

Dear Mr Osborne, My basement space is completely unfinished. Should I consider in wall speakers for the Dolby Atmos system? Have you done a video explaining pro/con of in wall speakers vs stand alone speakers? What are your thoughts?

[@ealanosborne]

Man, this video has caused an influx of questions about in-wall speakers. I am definitely going to write up a script and research more on the pros and cons. Short answer is, I have in-ceiling speakers that were already installed when we moved in. I prefer them - especially my wife - since I like a clean aesthetic. They’re not the most expensive or amazing, but since they just do the Atmos height audio (rain, atmospherics), they’re good enough for now. And they range from budget to insanely expensive. So the options are plentiful. 👍

[@williamthomas4912]

I bought the Emotiva Basx A 300 for the R-625FA's you say they could handle 150W each. According to the klipsch spec.. it says 100W continuous 400W peak. Can you explain to a home theater nubie?

[@Yiannis2112]

The A300 is 150Wrms per channel into 8 Ohms. The R-625FAs are 100W continuous, also at 8Ohms and they can handle up to 400W peak. The fact that the A-300 can send 50W/channel more to the 625s than their continuous power rating, is a good thing. You always want your amplifier to be able to send more power (called headroom), to your speakers. Imagine it as a "pillow" of extra power, or like some extra horsepower from your car, in order to pass quickly that big truck in front of you. Also, the fact that the 625s can handle quick bursts of power, up to 400W (4xcontinuous), makes the A-300-R625 combo, a good matching (as the A-300 cannot reach that number, where things can become dangerous for the speakers, especially when the audio you're playing is intense and fast for long periods e.g rock, metal or 80 piece classical music, with intense and sudden passages, that last several seconds very often). Finally, the R625s have a high sensitivity (96dB), which makes them easy speakers, for an amplifier to "drive".

[@williamthomas4912]

YES! Thanks for the education. So as long as I dont crank the volume to 100% and walk away, I should be okay! I appreciate that you took the time to answer.

[@Yiannis2112]

@@williamthomas4912 Yes exactly. You surely got it. Don't turn the volume to max. However, you don't have to walk away. Depending on music or movie material, speaker damage can happen in a couple of seconds, even less. Other than that, you won't have to crank it that much up, anyway. Things are going to be already too loud and reach the max continuous handling of your speakers, before that 100% setting. The more poweful the amp, the sooner this will occur. For example, a 300W amp will reach the max continuous of those R625s, much sooner than the 150W A-300. Moreover, it's certain that you'll notice distortion (called clipping), when you reach dangerous loudness levels. Turn down volume asap. If you have the time, watch this quick video, from renowned CEO and engineer of PS Audio, Mr Paul McGowan. kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpmbdKuKoJdlprs You can also google "Speaker power requirements - JBL Professional" and download that two page article, in pdf. Also, this 2 page article, from Steven Miller, engineer of Crown Audio. It's a bit more revealing and probably straightforward. studylib.net/doc/18046977/matching-amps-and-speakers Hope it helps getting around this topic. Cheers!

[@walmsley1290]

Can I use mackie pro 15” PA speaker for pre out without buying separate amp?

[@ealanosborne]

Eh...it’s kind of possible, but probably not the best idea to use PA speakers in a home theater setting. Here’s a thread that explains it better than I could. 👍 www.avsforum.com/threads/pa-speakers-for-home-theater.2455090/

[@mickyashey9818]

THE FIRST AMP you listed can run 150w per channel too if you bridge it!?

[@ealanosborne]

Sure, if you bridge it, yes

[@Jaypatel512]

@@ealanosborne Is bridging bad ? Or is this a legitimate way to do this ? Noob here.

[@PavanKumar-vu2mm]

First, your videos are so entertaining. I like watching your videos just for the punch lines in between. And, here’s my question: Are the costco klipsch speakers you keep mentioning in your videos good? Cause when I search for costco klipsch speakers reviews all I see is ‘no, they’re cheap. Don’t buy that shit. Klipsch makes cheap stuff’ I’m really confused. Can I confidently go ahead and buy that stuff? Please advise.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks for the compliments, Pavan! My whole intent behind this channel was to present info that can be found on other channels, but delivered in a unique way, so I’m glad you see the difference. 😀👍 As far as Klipsch speakers, audio is subjective, so it’ll never sound the same to everyone. But I’m an audio engineer/musician, and audio and music has been a focal point of my entire life, so I’d like to think my ears are tuned in such a way to where I can discern between what sounds good, and what doesn’t. Klipsch is not top of the line. But I believe they’ve somehow perfected a formula of bringing products to the mass consumer market that may not have the best of the best components internally, yet turn out to be a quality product. I paid $350 for my Reference Theater Pack and it sounds great. Is it the greatest ever? No. But for a complete 5.1 system, most other companies charge around $1,000. I don’t know how Klipsch does it. And their speakers are so sensitive compared to the competition, so they don’t require as much power to be played at loud volumes. Meaning you DON’T need to spend a large sum of money on a receiver just to power them. You can get away with a more inexpensive receiver and still get away with quality sound out of the speakers. Would I rather have speakers that cost $1,000 each in my home theater system? Of course. Who wouldn’t? But I sure as hell don’t have that kind of money to spend. 😄

[@cameronwong7608]

Thank you for the super informative and clear video! Can’t wait to get this setup once I finish my home theater room!

[@ealanosborne]

I’m excited for you too, Cameron! 🤘

[@cameronwong7608]

Oh yeah….thumbs up and subbed as well! Looking forward to checking out your other videos!

[@DS_ELxMICHO]

my setup cost 2000. 7.2 sony dolby atmos. let me just say, mind blowing. the walls shake, you cant even have it on low volume during the night bwcuase it still sounds stupid loud

[@YaMomsOyster]

There are that many brands and combinations available you can assemble a beast these days for that amount. So , What brand did you go with?

[@wolfmanjacksaid]

I started with your $1500 dolby atmos video and now watching the under $3000 dolby atmos video and super excited! Question: Do I need to connect a trigger cable to my subwoofer if it is already an active subwoofer? And also do you recommend an extra pair of the Klipsch R-41M or bigger R-51M speakers for a 7.1.2 setup? I got the 5.0.2 Klipsch system and the X3700H AVR after watching your videos.

[@ealanosborne]

Awesome! Good for you! Sometimes having a trigger cable connected to your subwoofer is more reliable than just setting your sub to auto-engage when it gets a signal through the RCA cable. But it’s not necessary, normally. I get by just fine with some RCA patch cables. And yeah, if it’s in your budget, I’d go for some R-51m bookshelves to be your surrounds, and have the R-41m’s be your surround back speakers. 🙌

[@tamerelsamahy9006]

Which one is stronger for Dolby Atmos? And dtsx for action movies and playstation five soundbar gpl 9.1 or this system

[@ealanosborne]

Unless you're getting a flagship soundbar like a Sony HT-A9 (with sub) or Samsung Q990b, a traditional wired system with an AVR will be more powerful, especially if you mount the height speakers, not just have them bounce sound off the ceiling.

[@buguy0]

So could i use this minus the additional amp for a 5.2.4 atmos system? My room wouldn't allow for side/wide speakers.

[@ealanosborne]

Correct! And besides, I mistakenly thought the Denon X3700H could handle 9 ear-level channels, but it can only do 7. Denon wants you to pay more money for the software to handle “wide” speakers. Go figure. 😄 But yeah, since it has 9 amps internally, 5.2.4 is def possible. 🙌

[@buguy0]

@@ealanosborne great! I ordered the Klipsch system and 2 subs from costco. I will likely run it as a 5.2.2 for a while and then maybe add some in ceiling atmos speakers.

[@ealanosborne]

@@buguy0 Nice! That'll be a nice touch eventually getting in-ceiling speakers!

[@verjeesarfraz496]

Have a pioneer vsx70 (90W receiver), has 2 channel preout. Can I add 2 channel amp for Front speakers and let receiver handle rest?

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah, looks like it after checking out the back panel. 🤘

[@tamerelsamahy9006]

If you want to use the TX-NR6050 Onkyo 7.2 And connect a headset to the center and subwoofer and save temporarily I will complete the system later because of the lack of money currently. Do you recommend any headphones and subwoofer that gives me Dolby Atmos sound and DTSX no less than JBL 9.1 Thank you

[@Techtheo]

Ealan this one is for you I have a 6.2.4 speaker setup, with one speaker at the back of my room, will this give me the same performance as 7.2.4?.

[@agottschalk10]

Would either of the 400$ amps at Costco be sufficient for this setup? But with only 1 of the subwoofers

[@ealanosborne]

The most those receivers could do is either 7.1 or 5.1.2 system, since they’re both 7 channel receivers. You’d have to get at least a 9 channel receiver with pre-outs to handle more.

[@ibshortie]

@@ealanosborne While the TSR 700 says it's a 7.1 system it actually has 9 speaker outputs. Along with front, center, and surround. It also has surround back and presence. Why do they say it's only 7.1? I have all 9 channels hooked up on mine, plus two SVS PB1000 pro's. I think it sounds pretty decent and my surround speakers are laying on the floor pointing up to the ceiling, not mounted to the walls or ceiling. I figured the room correction takes account for the non-optimum speaker placement. It also says it has Dolby Atmos

[@agottschalk10]

So for Klipsch 5.1.2 setup from Costco; which receiver would you recommend? If I understand correctly the Yamaha does 100w/channel at 8ohms but the Denon only does 75w/channel at 8ohms. These Klipsch are 8ohms and want 100w consistent. Peak 400w. Is the Yamaha my better choice?

[@ealanosborne]

@@agottschalk10 The Yamaha might have a slight edge on the Denon since it’s 8K ready and newer. Although the Denon has Audyssey room calibration which is very nice at balancing your home theater space. But as I said, the Denon is due for an update, being a couple years old now, so I’d prob go with the Yamaha. 👍

[@joah135]

So even with the limitations mentioned in the description, this system is still capable of 7.2.4 correct?

[@jerryfox3731]

Great job on the video. A lot of good information. I really appreciate it. I got the Klipsch speaker bundle and extra pair of bookshelf speakers from Costco. Great price comparing to anyone else. But the Denon receiver is $1200 anywhere. So I am buying tv and receiver at Best Buy and letting them install everything. I will need to get some speaker wire and jacks. Thanks again.

[@ealanosborne]

Fantastic! You’re gonna love the sound! 🙌

[@scotthornsby4858]

I currently have a 7.1 KEF speaker system with a Yamaha amp. Can I upgrade the receiver, add a few more speakers and get a full ATMOS system including ceiling mount speakers?

[@ealanosborne]

Sure, why not! Go for it!

[@scotthornsby4858]

@@ealanosborne well I think I will, so there

[@Usman012813]

Thoughts on using the Denon solely for processing and running a 7 channel amp and 5 channel amp to power your right, left, center, surrounds, rears, and 4 atmos ceiling/upward firing speakers? Does it make sense to get a separate amp just for the atmos speakers if I am already powering the ear level speakers with a separate amp? Thanks for your help!

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah, if you can swing it, getting 2 separate amps for ear-level and Atmos is a great idea. It just eats a lot of the Denon’s processing power to handle the audio processing AND powering the speakers, so the more you can alleviate that with external amps, the better! 👍

[@Usman012813]

@@ealanosborne appreciate the response, thanks for your help!

[@div0007]

Quick question- I want to have a similar setup to this video in my newly constructed home. Sadly, the builder didn't allow pre-wiring of the room which I want to convert to the media room. I also don't wanna spend thousands of dollars to have a HT company install my supposedly budget setup. So who can now run wires for me? Will best buy do it if I buy some equipment from them(like AVR or amp) or a low-voltage electrician? Any suggestions?

[@ealanosborne]

Hmmm…good question. I guess a HT install company would be the first place to look, at least just to run wires, then you connect all the pieces together. If their quote comes back too high, maybe an electrician could do it, since I’m sure they’re skilled with running wires through existing walls, too. 🤷‍♂️

[@corybutler5261]

Great video Do you have a link for the 150w amp? Or even a 3 Channel amp to power my front stage. My speakers are 100w each. Thank you. Keep up the great work.

[@ealanosborne]

Here’s a link to the Emotiva amp I mentioned, but I trust any of their amps, TBH - emotiva.com/products/a-300

[@victorgriffith8968]

Great video man, I'd like to set up one of my own someday

[@jermainepearson6835]

I never heard audio from the speakers does the vocals come in muffled or are there clear voices from these speakers

[@ealanosborne]

Klipsch are known for their "bright" audio quality, adding a slight bump in the higher frequencies, so yeah - voices seem clear to me.

[@JohnnyV29666]

So, by placing a home theater system in a great room, my wife would like to install in-ceiling speakers for a visible and cleaner look for our new home. Yes, I am placing (1) sub, maybe (2) if I can convince her. Would you have any suggestions with how to approach this? I’ve been looking at placing (2) Focal 300ICW8 in the rear, (2) 300ICLCR5 in the front and (1) 300IWLCR6 in the center. The way I see it, it a 0.2.5 system? Is that possible? Lol If you have any suggestions, that would be great or if you can do a video for this type of scenario, that would be awesome!

[@ealanosborne]

Ha! My wife is the same way. We currently have in-ceiling speakers for my Atmos height channels since they were already installed when we moved into this house. Eventually I’ll replace my mounted satellite ear-level speakers with in-walls (again, my wife will be thrilled). What you’re describing would still be considered 5.2, you just happen to have the 5 main channels in the ceiling. That happens a lot these days with newly constructed housing developments - 3 in-ceiling speakers above the TV and 2 behind the couch for the surrounds. Is your wife opposed to having in-wall speakers closer to ear level? Or is it even possible with the layout of the living room? Maybe sometime in the future, you’d want to upgrade even more and ADD in-ceiling speakers to make a 5.2.2 or 5.2.4 Atmos system? A lot of in-wall and in-ceiling speakers have paintable grills, so they blend in with the wall, as long as you remember which color your walls are. 😀

[@JohnnyV29666]

@@ealanosborne Thanks for the response. If she does decide to have eye level in-wall speakers, I’m sure to add it in. It will, for now, be 5.2. 👍🏻🤘🏻😁🍻

[@avargh3]

Do you think if the preout on onkyo 6050 7.2 can be used to extend it to 9.2 channels ?

[@ealanosborne]

No, unfortunately. The only preouts on the 6050 are the subwoofer preouts, so they're only designated for the low frequencies.

[@abdullahimangroup893]

Please update about the receiver 11.2 deals

[@DV-mf2xq]

I really love all your videos, they helped me to set up a home theater at my friend's house. 😉 . Can you do an update budget video with current prices and systems? Thanks

[@ealanosborne]

Thank you very much! Yeah, an update is on my list of topics I wanna hit pretty soon!

[@ivansidoruk7542]

hey man amazing videos! i have a quick question does it matter what kind of tv i get? cause i had a samsung qled and bought the harmon and karman dolby atmos soundbar but it would not play atmos because the tv did not process tht kind of sound is the same here? when using a denon? thank you!!

[@thomasbechard]

$699 at some Costco locations for the 5.0.2 setup. Waiting to see if mine gets it. $799 online through April 2021. Bought the sub last week for $149. Also, the sub is powered. Not sure why you thought it wasn’t. Would have needed another amplifier.

[@patelvivek27]

@Ealan Osborne is there a cheaper AV receiver you’d recommend with pre-outs for a 5.2.4 config you mentioned in the video? At that point I wouldn’t need a 9 channel correct?

[@ealanosborne]

Correct, unfortunately. Back in the day you could snag a 7 channel AVR with pre-outs, but that’s not the case anymore. Onkyo was supposed to release a 9 channel AVR with pre-outs in June (TX-RZ50), but that’s not happening. I want it, personally, and it’s only $1,099. Other than that, they’re all pretty expensive. 😭

[@kevinjordan3279]

I want to run the 7.2.4 setup with one receiver without buying anything else but it has to be 75 watt per channel and a 8k av receiver to run a 5.2.4 klipsch reference cinema speakers and I have 2 cerwin Vega bookshelf speakers for my side surround sound so do you have any ideas on what receiver is best for my setup please tell me what I should try and get it .thanks again for your help

[@pyrosive]

Great video, thanks! If you went with the more expensive amp to handle your LCR speakers, would it be possible to go with a 7 channel AVR as long as it has pass-through? Or do you still need 9 channels? I'm looking to do 5.2.4 for what it's worth

[@ealanosborne]

This comment somehow slid under the radar! Sorry! You would still need to go with a 9 channel AVR since those are the only ones with a full set of pre outs these days. Unless you got an older 7 channel receiver, like circa 2016 or so.

[@lpa9323]

What i still don’t understand is where the atoms speakers plug in, is it just either the same circuit as the front/back or does it need a separate place on the amp/AVR where its plugged in?

[@ealanosborne]

It has its own separate binding posts on the rear of any receiver, usually labeled “height.” 👍

[@shadowdemon7770]

Okay, so I just pulled the trigger and I now have the klipsch Costco set up, for about a week now. I'm waiting to get the sony Dh790 soon. Now this is all on your recommendation and I absolutely love them so far, even with my old 5year sony receiver. However, I have a question for you. What is the best solution for rear wireless speakers? I simply can't run speaker wire through the walls and my space is so limited that I can't run them underneath anything. Rocktfish rear speakers never seemed good, as they can't push the speakers hard enough. I've had them in the past, unless they've improved recently. Any ideas?

[@ealanosborne]

Yikes. Sorry for your rear speaker dilemma. Although maybe this wireless rear speaker kit from Rocketfish might do the trick? amzn.to/3tdq6B9

[@SkittlesScott]

Once again great editing, Love the videos.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks, Scott! 🙌

[@patrickcogley]

Awesome video! I checked these speakers out and I actually thought the Theater pack sounded better? Does that make sense? I have this AVR just need to upgrade my speakers. What do you think is the next level up?

[@ealanosborne]

SVS Prime speakers would be the next level up. I’m actually editing a couple SVS-centric videos that will be released soon!

[@patrickcogley]

@@ealanosborne Costco has the Klipsch Reference set on sale $100 off...if you buy that set, the 2 subs, and the extra bookshelf speakers you can $350...very tempting

[@ealanosborne]

@@patrickcogley very tempting indeed! 😀

[@patrickcogley]

@@ealanosborne Problem is you got me looking at SVS now

[@ealanosborne]

@@patrickcogley haha, oh right... 😄

[@jessecruz2502]

Not sure if anyone else mentioned it in the comments but some Costcos actually carry 5.0.2 system in store. The online price has the “shipping included“ which adds $100. In store it’s 799. They were $100 off a few weeks ago so in store price was $699. The sub was $100 off at $149. Absolute Stupid price.

[@ElitistReviews]

nice config but I would also include some cooling fans or maybe an Infinity AVR cooler coz 3700H gets extremely hot.

[@ealanosborne]

Oooo, right. Good call!

[@RahzAlGhul]

It would cost me around $1518 right now to upgrade to Atmos is it worth it? I don’t think so now to me right now at least. I’m running a 7.1 right now

[@ealanosborne]

I think so! It’s not just the height aspect, but a Dolby Atmos signal has better bass extension too. Just a more immersive, more impactful audio codec compared to Dolby Digital and other previous Dolby codecs. 👍

[@RahzAlGhul]

@@ealanosborne I run an Atmos codec even on a 7.1. I’ll eventually do it I’m sure. Is there a recommended height that the on walls need to be for spec or can I just have a set of bookshelves sit on top of my towers

[@ealanosborne]

@@RahzAlGhul You can utilize any speakers for Atmos, although it is recommended to mount them up high, as opposed to bouncing audio off the ceiling (if at all possible).

[@TrevorBatt]

Entertained and informed. Thanks Ealan!! I’ll be able to say I was watching your vids back when you ONLY had 4K subs.

[@scottm3717]

What about the 12-swi wireless subwoofer. Don’t see the 12sw at Costco online but will have to check locally

[@philipsawyers719]

Hi was looking at this amp there are some good deals in the UK, with either the MA bronze, Q350I which would you recommend?

[@HatGuy2022]

Denon 4700h Silver TICKET 120INCH PROJECTOR SCREEN EPSON LS11000 LASER PROJECTOR KLIPSCH FRONT, CENTER AND SURROUND 2 KLIPSCH 120S SUBS 4 KLIPSCH ATMOS SPEAKERS

[@J4Berg]

So I have the reference speakers and two subs I may get the bookshelf speakers so I can have a 7.2.2 set up. Are there any good receivers to look into? I don’t think the wife would appreciate me spending the money on the denon or marantz. She doesn’t know about the speakers yet haha.

[@matthewb.1687]

Try Yamaha A3080 or A2080 for those setups.

[@moosewayne8434]

I would get an AVR with 9.2.2 built in spend much less on it. then get better subs.

[@sal6830]

Great job!

[@MrCamvaughn]

Wow, great video! I was contemplating buying two of the Costco speaker packages and two sub woofers. With the two packages. I would have 4 towers, 2 center channels, 4 bookshelf, and on the top of the towers 4 reflective Atmos speakers. If I understand it this would require a 13.2 channel receiver. Could I use the Denon AVR 3700H you use, and two of the Audio Source Amps to accomplish that through preouts? Thanks so very much...

[@ealanosborne]

No, actually. The Denon x6700H can support 13 channels with the help of a 2 channel external amp (since by itself it can support 11 channels), so you would need that. The x3700h and x4700h can handle a maximum of 11 channels with the aid of an external amp.

[@MrCamvaughn]

@@ealanosborne thank you sir. It's so appreciated... I decided on the Denon AVR-X8500H. It should prove adequate for my Speaker selection... 😉 Thanks for the great videos. I'll be reviewing more of them....

[@ealanosborne]

@@MrCamvaughn Whoa! Going for the big leagues indeed with that x8500H! 🤘💯

[@MrCamvaughn]

@@ealanosborne I just wanna be like you sir ; -) …again thanks. Looking forward to your setup videos…

[@lkprasanna]

@@ealanosborne can x3700h support 11 channels (7.2.4 setup)? I am trying to relate to your comment in description "*It's been brought to my attention by @Techno Dad that the Denon X3700H and Marantz 6015 do have some limitations I wasn't aware of. 1) All mentions of being able to make a 9.2.2 configuration are NOT true. Both receivers only support 7 ear-level speakers, and 2) only the 2 front or 2 rear height channels can be externally powered, unless ALL channels are externally powered. Sorry for any confusion!"

[@619villian]

What do you guys think of Aperion audio speakers?

[@ealanosborne]

Some of the best in its price range! 🙌 I’ve done reviews on all their Novus line, and will soon release reviews on the Verus line… 🤘

[@1976SammyJ]

Just a heads up, COSTCO is completely sold out of the Klipsch Atmos speaker bundle you describe here for $899. That was a sweet deal and I'm totally bummed I saw your video after everyone else went and bought them all. Any idea if they will have this deal again?

[@ealanosborne]

Oh yeah. I’ve seen it “Temporarily Out of stock” before and it maybe lasted 2 weeks at the most.

[@santim0]

I can't even imagine how long it took you to edit this video...

[@ealanosborne]

Tell me about it... 😄

[@santim0]

@@ealanosborne 😂Its just that i edit videos sometimes and i know how long it takes

[@TrogdorElite6]

I have spent way to much tine researching and ended up nearly at the sane spot😂

[@choocharoo]

So looking to finally move into atmos lol. I’ve got a 7 paradigm plus subwoofer. In Canada a 7.2 receiver is 1100 but holy shit a 9.2 moves to 2200-3000 dollars. Any idea why the massive jump in dollars after 7.2 receivers? Thanks.

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah, it’s pretty ridiculous. 🤦‍♂️ Just more bells and whistles, more power, and they typically have the option to use their internal amps, or expand to use external amps via pre outs on the back of the AVR.

[@choocharoo]

@@ealanosborne sigh. It’s making me wonder if I can just use the my surrounds (paradigm surrounds) as atmos and just use a 7.2 amp? Definitely cheaper then moving to 9.2. Canadian pricing sucks lol. Thanks for the reply

[@ealanosborne]

@@choocharoo You can definitely get by with 7.2 for awhile. Now that I've moved on, I don't wanna go back (haha!), but I sure enjoyed my time while I was rockin' 5.1.2 for awhile!

[@Arch_Angel_Michael]

How do you set up the 7.2 channel receiver to process the correct additional channels for the 7.2.2 atmos set up when you use an external amp for the rear surround speakers? Is it just doubling the sound channel for the 2 rear surround speakers, or does it actually decode the additional channels? Also, I just got those 2 Klipsch subwoofers from Costco on sale for $150.00 each!

[@ealanosborne]

Hey congrats on getting those subs! Well, I mentioned using the Denon AVR-X3700H since it’s a 9.2 channel receiver with pre-outs. All 7 channel receivers can only handle a 7.2 or 5.2.2 setup. If there are more terminals to on the back, yes, it’s just gonna be a copy of certain channels. Using external amps is only possible starting with 9 channel receivers and up.

[@Arch_Angel_Michael]

@@ealanosborne Ok, gotcha. I was trying to work and listen at the same time. I misunderstood what was said in that section. I went back and listened to it again. Thanks for the quick reply!

[@ealanosborne]

@@Arch_Angel_Michael No problem!

[@camarosspr]

Instead of expensive $1200+++ dennon/marantz receivers (and speakers) Does 8k $400 yamaha receiver have the preamp output w trigger? basic 5.2.4 ATMOS, w the $139 amp, all under $1000 really cheap All around $50-75 2 way speakers, except front (center & sides) live in apartment, big volume no no

[@dhbct]

Do you think that an Onkyo TX-NR797 could power this Klipsch system in a 7.2.2 format? Or is it under powered? You can find it for $800.

[@ealanosborne]

Yeah I think so. Although the only downside is that there are no pre-outs other than for the subwoofer. So there’s no way to possibly expand in the future with external amps, etc. But for just utilizing the power within the receiver itself? It’s a good one. I had the model down for years (NR787). 👍

[@AnonymousBosch3158]

What a nice channel.

[@ealanosborne]

Thanks! 😁

[@carcar5911]

I have a question. I have an onkyo txrz82. I thought I could do 7.2.2.. but I can only do 5.2.2 or 7.2. Would you keep the upfiriring Dolby atmos speakers and do 5.2.2 or return them and just do 7.2. Im leaning towards 7.2 cause I don't think 2 upfiriring speakers will make that much of a difference. I think alot more sound will be coming from surrounds than the few times that there will be sounds from height speakers. What do you think? My room is small. 12x11 and about 8ft high flat ceiling.

[@ealanosborne]

Great question! Although there’s no definitive answer, honestly. Just what you think is better. BUT...that being said, you might want to test out the “wall of sound” if at all possible. Instead of letting those Atmos speakers fire towards the ceiling, try and mount them above the TV in the corner where the wall and ceiling meet, pointing them towards the main listening position. It creates this sonic illusion that makes your TV seem gigantic! After testing that out, if you still think it’s “meh,” then yeah, go with 7.2. Having sound directly to your sides AND behind is pretty cool too. Experimentation is key! 😀🙌

[@carcar5911]

@@ealanosborne thanks for the answer! I'm probably gonna stick with 7.2. That leads me to my next question.. when I set my xbox to output Dolby atmos with 7.2 the receiver says Dolby atmos.. but its not really Dolby atmos cause no height speakers right? Is it still better to leave it in Dolby atmos or is there a better listening mode to set the receiver at for 7.2?

[@67Jasonp]

How bad of an idea would it be to use a pair of satellites from the Klipsch Reference Theater Pack for the rear Atmos channels? Instead of the R41Ms? Thanks!

[@ealanosborne]

Not terrible! It's typical to set a crossover frequency for Atmos channels to 120 Hz anyway, which those little Theater Pack satellites can just handle. Easier to mount, too, so I understand the appeal. 😀

[@demorippa]

Thanks. Let me go find a Costco user

[@markcrazy9999]

Quick thought. I have the tsr-700 yamaha Reciever.7.1.2 which I didn't now till later really is just either 2 two atmos presents speakers or dts two rear surround. I would like 4 atmos speakers in the ceiling not just 2. Could I feasibly use a stereo line output converter to get the signal from the front presence speakers to then run L/R signal to a audio source 100 amp ?

[@ealanosborne]

No, unfortunately. The software that runs the TSR-700 can only handle processing up to 7 channels, even though it has the “front presence” as an option. For whatever reason, manufacturers decided 9 channel receivers would be the minimum number of channels that would start to have the option of pre-outs on some models. And even then, the Denon X3700H that I mention can a really only handle a 7.2.4 setup, not 9.2.2 like I originally thought, again due to the software limitations. Boo. They just want more money for more options/bells and whistles. Go figure. 😄

[@markcrazy9999]

@@ealanosborne thanks for reply. I understand I can't add an additional channel because the receiver only has what it has. But i thought I could take the +/- left/right signal right off the av receiver , basically just running the stereo output converter ( which requires no power just a signal) to add 2 atmos speakers powered by the external amp. So in the end there will be four atmos speakers running off one signal . One set powered by the receiver one powered by the amp.. in reality I could just take the +/- signal from the receiver connect the converter and go right to the external amp and run four speakers from the external amp. It can work . The reason is simply to add more overhead sound. I have really nice ceiling speakers and I built a porter box for them and they rattle my ceiling so the second pair would be mounted closer overhead. Or front upper wall .🤷🏼 Fun to try . More is better. 😁

[@ealanosborne]

@@markcrazy9999 Ohhhh I see. Yeah, if that signal is split, then yes, what you described should work, with the additional speakers being powered by the external amp. Nice! Yeah, having 4 ceiling speakers would be an upgrade for sure. It makes a difference.

[@franklynlindsay2728]

Great Video

[@matthewb.1687]

What reciever do you recommend if I have four R-41m speakers, one R-52c center, and a klipsch Reference sub and plans to buy the bigger cousin that is sold at Costco for a killer price. That would be like 5.2 non dolby atmos upwards firing. With a 4k setup.

[@ealanosborne]

Denon s750H, Yamaha TSR-700, or Marantz NR1711, depending on your budget. 👍

[@matthewb.1687]

@@ealanosborne you are the man! Thanks so much! Would you recommend maybe getting a 2 channel amp to go with a 5.2.2 to make it a 7.2.2.?

[@ealanosborne]

@@matthewb.1687 Ah...well unfortunately only 9 channel receivers (and up) have pre-outs to allow the use of an external amp. It’s just how manufacturers decided it would be, so they could get more of your money for those kinds of options.

[@rudyvargas2846]

What's the largest system we can connect with an Amp on the Sony 1080?

[@ealanosborne]

The only preouts that can be processed as part of your home theater system with the DN1080 are the 2 subwoofer outputs. There are no official preouts that pertain to your actual home theater channels with that receiver. So the largest you could go is either 7.2 or 5.2.2. There are 2 more speaker terminals for Zone 2, but still, the software can only power 7 channels at once, so you can either have 5.2+Zone 2, or 7.2 or 5.2.2.

[@rudyvargas2846]

@@ealanosborne so if I purchased the klipsch system from Costco with 2 subwoofers and an extra pair of shelf speakers, I need a better reciever to run that? Or does the 1080 work? Sorry for the questions haha I'm still learning and I keep rewatching your videos over and over 😅

[@ealanosborne]

@@rudyvargas2846 Haha, no problem! It can get pretty intense with all the information, believe me! :) But yes, if you want to do the 5.0.2 Klipsch, that alone requires a 7 channel receiver since 5+2=7 (and the DN1080 is a 7 channel receiver). So if you want to add 2 more bookshelf speakers, you would need a 9 channel receiver since 5+2+2=9. Make sense? :)

[@rudyvargas2846]

@@ealanosborne yes haha I think what throws me off is the Amp then. Thanks! So I need a 9 Chanel receiver which will cover the Xtra 2 speakers I ordered correct?

[@ealanosborne]

@@rudyvargas2846 Correct! :)

[@joshuapisani1853]

I have a question about how you would make this a X.X.4 set up. The Denon receiver is 9 powered channels, and has the pre-outs for 2 more channels - but do the Denons' pre-outs for channels 10 and 11 just send a duplicate signal (meaning from channel 1-9) from the preamp to an external amplifier for signal? Maybe I'm not understanding, but I ask because I don't know where the benefit would be in the case where you're not decoding atmos into any 11 channel form and just it duplicating 9 channel atmos. Any help would be appreciated!

[@briantidey2225]

He's not actually right here. The RCA outs will NOT give you 2 extra channels , this is only how you get the car to power two of the already 9.2 channels to give you more power, so this set up is still only 9.2 channels but now you've took pressure off if the avr and it's now only powering the fronts and maybe sides and atmos but not the rears. You can't make a AVR give you more channels than it was made to handle.

[@joshuapisani1853]

@@briantidey2225 Thank you for the response! This is what I imagined would be the case, but wanted to make sure. To clarify, does the AVR actually allow power to speakers in the same channels you also send signal out of the pre-outs? For instance, powering height-1 channels, but ALSO using those height-1 channel pre-outs to an external amp and just physically placing those additional speakers as rear atmos modules. If the receiver can feasibly do that, can we objectively find a difference between that and say, an 11.2 channel AVR? I know atmos has a bazillion unique audio cues, so I suppose I'm just trying to figure out where the law of diminishing returns comes into play with what you can actually hear.

[@briantidey2225]

@@joshuapisani1853 yes it does.. Although on further research a denon or marantz AVR that is a 9.2 recover BUT has the ability to upscale to 11.2 with use of external amps is true. Many AVRs have pre outs but they are only to power the existing channels available. For atmos I would not recommend using a pre out for those , I'm not sure the signal integrity would be kept.. As they are used for only object based sounds the ace is best used to decode and send the signed to those speakers. So if you were to buy the said capable denon or Marantz 9.2 ( with 11 channel processing ) then I would get a 3 channel power amp and run the fronts only on it. The fronts are used the most and give the most detail in sound .

[@joshuapisani1853]

@@briantidey2225 Perfect. You're the man, thanks again!