Less Than Gentle Jiu-jitsu (5 Technical Rough Moves in BJJ)

[@mrasskisser7368]

Ill try these on the old lady tonight

[@Chewjitsu]

😂 and to the couch you go

[@mrasskisser7368]

@@Chewjitsu Laying on the couch with the dog as we speak

[@willspeakman2461]

@@Chewjitsu judging by that username I'd say your correct

[@zodiac154]

Oh boy, oh boy!

[@hardcaliber19]

The "evangelist control" is hilarious. I am definitely incorporating this. 🤣

[@simsonyee]

You are saved!

[@ilikepushrodv8s210]

Benny Hinn control.

[@xkidmidnightx]

The muzzle is illegal in the IBJJF. Its a great technique though. I used to use it a lot on this guy that was super hard to choke. He defeated it by licking my palm though 😨

[@zbcombat]

It’s best used against those people that say,”That Jiu Jitsu stuff won’t work on me!” 😂😂😂

[@koalaofdeath2045]

@@zbcombat yup

[@SolidusLightning777]

The nostril pinch is 100% catch wrestling inspired.

[@PeteOrta]

IBJJF is a monopoly.

[@Brian-hg3gt]

double_T 😂😭 I got ur nose, say Unlce

[@the_real_ch3]

I describe these moves as things you only do to your friends and people you’re never going to see again

[@Chewjitsu]

Pretty much

[@afroduck6991]

It's funny how much more politically incorrect the use of the word 'rape' can be compared to the word 'murder'

[@PimpolloMorales]

People would rather be plain savages than savage perverts 🤷‍♀️

[@Lijah2good4u]

I had a lot of this done to me when I was a lonely white belt in a school filled with purples browns and blacks. They passed me around like a joint at a reggae concert.that was 14yrs ago

[@norangel4087]

Lol

[@marshallw4492]

Pass the whitebelt to the left hand side...

[@marshallw4492]

Love the collab guys. Big fan of both channels.

[@sagestoic7524]

Hahah! Gold.. or should I say green lol!

[@danirox1979]

Fuck this is hilarious

[@HOTDOG401]

Seeing both "dirty moves" videos...Im of the humble opinion theyre good for the street where rules dont apply.

[@m.hannis9894]

Thanks for the videos and all you do. I used the force choke on a higher belt tonight. I didn't push my fist into his throat. I just used the zip-tie method to make the grip tighter. I felt like I had the opportunity to tap him. He arm-barred me, but it was worth it. I'm going to try the evangelist control, too.

[@1jz68u]

Vagner Rocha has used at least 3 of these that I've seen. That might be saying something about him lol.

[@thorodinson6031]

He’s my Hero. Lol

[@FrontiersOfTheFuture]

@@thorodinson6031 Same lol. I love his jits

[@Roll_Vids]

Nothing makes me smile more during training than trying to be a jerk to a good friend. I like the dummy sweep and the bomboclat pass. Priceless.

[@erikbakker1639]

This is gold! I'll make sure they're going to call me a dick at tomorrows training! Now going to Elis channel to watch the other 5. Thanks!

[@svarunstergar5190]

Dont do the murder choke 😂😂😂

[@allbeforebreakfast3569]

Word of advice. Do not do any of these. Unless u want to fight or roll hard, do NOT do these. You will kiss your training partner off. And let’s be honest. Ur not as good as them. Especially if you need to resort to these tactics. This is street jiujitsu

[@LaneHagen]

So if try this on someone that is a higher belt, are they gonna put a green light on me?

[@Titanfredi]

Now we know how to sound like Trump, just stop the blood from rushing to your brain 😂🤣😂

[@robspringer8499]

My 2 favorite internet instructors in the same video!? pretty cool. Didn't know this was a thing.

[@Chewjitsu]

It is!

[@humanzeejitzu42069]

Chewy sounds more like cartman imo during the force choke 😂 also chewy could you do a video on reactions to a single leg like escapes and defaces when someone already has a single leg in on you but they haven’t finished it yet

[@tomsawyer7429]

Ahhhh these forced double ads are a drag.

[@jmoletsgo13]

Adblock brother, adblock. It will change your life.

[@Chewjitsu]

John Morley thanks for the support!

[@bastianhieule-ngoc196]

@@Chewjitsu you dont get paid when someone use blockad?

[@tomazrodrigues7006]

Chewjitsu have you ever considered starting a Patreon or something similar? I bet a lot of people would be willing to pay to see your library ad free.

[@aligums3424]

Arguably 2 of KZbin's best instructors here together now all we need is the guy from grappling academy.

[@yessr7535]

2 of my favorite go-to's PLEASE keep this colabs going! Osss

[@Bb-rr4no]

I'm a white belt and have gotten brown belts with the force choke. No one knows wtf it is. Try it by sticking your arm up their gi. Have your arm come out on the same side it went in on. Next grap deep on the collar on the other side with your thumb in. Once they go to pull away they'll choke themselves.

[@crhasty12]

What a combo with these two! Love both of your channels. Great details in this video, as well as concepts that extend even beyond the techniques discussed.

[@hexicdragon3094]

Glad to see this collaboration. Great techniques, we use the "evangelist" when people sit up in open guard at the academy but rarely anywhere else so that will be good to implement.

[@MinhaFamiliaAQBJJ]

Adam is peeking thru a doorway staring both Eli and Chew thinking "Chew....I thought I meant something to us. Eli....I will find you. I will find you and I will steal your ability to converse so fluently." 🧐🤪

[@oraclebjj]

BJJ is first and foremost a martial art for self defence. So i don’t regard these moves as so much dick moves as something we all need to know and be weary of. Know how to use and defend against it because god forbid you may one day need to in a real street situation. Great work Chewy and Eli.

[@burdygurr]

The Trump comment... I had to go back and listen. Holy sh*t haha. Thanks for that guys!!

[@Chewjitsu]

😂

[@dan_thesaint]

Also, I was thaught to cover the mouth during a sprawl and twist the neck with the cupped hand (whilst controlling the opposite elbow with the other arm), works like a charm

[@qballfaw8861]

Hi chewy would you go over some good technique tips on set-up positions for the oil-check ?

[@posle.j.nema.k]

Two BJJ legends in one video💪

[@wlp6200]

Evangelist: pretty exposed wrist and elbow, yeah? I guess if you're willing to apply it, you're expecting some kind of response...

[@christophervelez1561]

Love seeing my favorite channels crossover

[@johndeer4250]

Is true He sounds just like Donald trump 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@charlotte-mg9wj]

I'm a 5ft tall 140 pound woman and staying calm when you have a big guy crushing you is hard enough as it is. If a big guy was choking me and tried to cover my mouth and nose like that I think I would freak out, bite them, and strike them in the balls. Play silly games,win silly prizes.

[@utubeyelper]

Lol, I’m gonna be the biggest dick in my gym.. 🤣😂.. great info guys- thanks a million👏👏👏

[@aqdjbcr]

Must have fucking gorilla hands to get that first choke with any regularity. One handed lapel choke from open guard 😂

[@RonALampman]

Covering the mouth, smother, Ha ha! I learned this some time ago as giving them "The Enchilada". Thanks for the setups!

[@InVancouverBC66]

haha, I use that one a lot, never heard "the enchilada"

[@soundtorial4567]

I will try These on that cocky bluebelt that keeps flexing on my White belt ass while rolling (:

[@seanhochman]

My coach told me that unless you grab the lappel, you can not just drive the fist into the neck, is that true???

[@lcdoc1510]

Is that evangelist control legal in comp? (IBJJF)

[@joshuaamado6152]

First saw the muzzle in a grappling match with Craig Jones. He was on the guys back for 3 mins torturing him. It was like waterboarding xD

[@Trainbydayjrpodcastbynight]

I swear hand sanitizer become shitty smelling since covid

[@philosophicaldudeman]

Dad?

[@Bear.imbolo]

What’s the less political correct name for the murder choke

[@BM-of6dg]

I am absolutely buzzin that you both did a collaboration ! Great stuff thank you!

[@Ricardoromero4444]

God damn he DOES sound like trump

[@eschelar]

Yep. The muzzle and the face crank. I used the muzzle once for fun, but I refuse to do the face crank. Too much pressure on the teeth. Older guys like me don't like messing around with teeth too much. I've had 3 broken teeth so far and I'm about a year and a half. :) Even with a mouth guard...

[@InVancouverBC66]

I am a big fan of the muzzle also

[@Hand2HandCombat]

jj - is a sport these are solid moves for real life!!!!!!

[@sharaudramey9336]

he was going to say the r-word choke

[@paperjack93]

once I was on kesa gatame and I just couldn't get the arm of the guy or finish him, but he couldn't get me off him either. After a few minutes of useless attempts, I politely asked him if I could pull a dirty move on him. He "mhm"d and I covered his mouth. He immediately panicked and defended, I got his arm and submitted.

[@dan_thesaint]

Love everything, but I have reservations about the evangelist and murder chocke, cuz I feel people are gonna legit punch me after xD gotta try it with some bros. Everything else I feel is legit and 'correct'

[@Chewjitsu]

They might. Be ready to block a punch.

[@moistpudding9606]

That hand over mouth is crazy..

[@shawnmartin1306]

When people go to lockdown position especially in competition I cover the nose and mouth. That shuts down their lockdown immediately. I don’t really do it in the gym though. It is a dick move for sure 😂 but very effective

[@InVancouverBC66]

Exactly man. I find that covering mouth and nose brings everything to a standstill. Love using it.

[@bryanfontez]

My buddies and I smother choke each other all the Fucking time. It's literally all we look for because we find it hilarious and it's legit. It's only a dick move if you're dead serious and don't have a good repoire with your partner. But if you land it and then laugh it usually lightens the mood enough for everyone to find it funny.

[@InVancouverBC66]

Very nice! Smother chokes work so well. I play around with this with a friend of mine. Always amazing to see how much shorter I can hold my breath when the mouth and nose are covered by his hand . And vice versa. I think I can hold my breath longer without the hand smother

[@nicholasneyhart396]

Here are my top five 1. Twister 2. Banana split 3. Side neck crank 4. Cloverleaf 5. Back ride neck crank

[@eschelar]

I bet your rolling partners fucking love ya. Haha I'm the opposite of you. I'm a big roly poly muscle guy, so I'm the guy who invites people to try their nasty shit on me so they can practice for street or comp. Haha The head coach likes to use the "double bear claw" on the neck. Last time he did it, I just growled and flipped him on his back. Not exactly according to plan. But we still had a good time. :) I've had a couple twisters on me by my high level 10p buddies, but no banana split yet. That will be fun.

[@nicholasneyhart396]

I don't advocate using these on a training partner, I just think these are the roughest moves I can do. I am a 230 lb amateur strongman, I don't rough people up I let them rough me up much like yourself. Have a nice day sir.

[@eschelar]

@@nicholasneyhart396 Nice. I'd probably love rolling with ya. I'm the weird guy who likes rolling with the guys who everyone else hates rolling with because they're too big, too strong or too rough.. or all of the above... although it sounds like you're actually more of a teddy bear in actual rolling. ;) I'm a 240lb amateur powerlifter who hangs out with strongman lifters too. I guess we'd probably both be like, "OK man, don't be afraid to give me a bit of grief." and have a grand old time on the mats.

[@nicholasneyhart396]

Seems like we would probably get along. I accidentally put the coach out of commission for a month with a bad calf sprain, so my entire school is rusty. Nice talking with you sir.

[@eschelar]

@@nicholasneyhart396 Oss!

[@bonomaullykamlesh]

I will try these this evening. Hope I don't get kicked out.

[@Chewjitsu]

No promises

[@toserve]

It goes to show how perverse this stuff is

[@ChesapeakeFan]

'Dick moves' hahaha. Love it

[@redshot1015]

question who wins in this ROLL??

[@The_Vinegar_Jim]

Perfect techniques for the enforcer!

[@pkjdm]

The famous Asshole-jitsu

[@donireland6218]

You pointed out that these can be effective simply because nobody trains on how to defend against these techniques. So how about a video looking at it from the OTHER SIDE? If you found yourself in these situations how would you defend against them?

[@michaelspoto8720]

just got the news today my school is going back to restricted rules. can only go 2-3 days a week depending on the week and only can do solo drills. im so bummed.

[@michaelspoto8720]

@Toni Long i realize you're joking but i find it ridiculous that people can go to bars and get wasted and order food in a crowded room but we can't go stay fit and learn jiu jitsu. we were taking precautions and for the 3 months we have been open no one has gotten covid. we take temperature checks, no spectators and you only have one training partner in your own section of the mat. i don't see why we can't roll when we're being safe.

[@michaelspoto8720]

@Toni Long thanks man, me too. glad you guys are able to roll over there. take care

[@andrewgrignon826]

Cool video! The unwritten rules of any sport is always nice to know.. like in baseball, you don't bunt if the pitcher has a no-hitter going, it's nice to know they're there to use, but just be mindful of what could happen if you do go down that road. I'm a new BJJ student so any info I can get is appreciated

[@jacobingold1925]

Had a guy hit me with a milk mother smother/choke. It sucked, I panicked and tap, nearly bit him it made panic that much, let's make I clear I didn't bite him though. I stopped everything I was trying to do and just tapped. Got up and was like WTF did you just get me with. I think a panicked so much 1. I couldn't breath and 2. We had already be training and rolling for and hour so the sweat from his rash guard was getting in my mouth 🤢🤮

[@ashleighpiccinino1849]

Thank you for the video. I am not in the sport yet, but I am also 35. Some friends of mine are teaching me things, just for fun, and to hopefully prepare me for whenever I start in the fall, if that’s possible. However, one of these friends likes to kick out with both feet, making the land on my back. Somehow, I don’t think this is a jujitsu move, but I don’t know of course. However, he says that it is, and he is only a white belt. I don’t know if kicking out with both feet is proper BJJ or not. Please help me understand. Thank you

[@jjett350]

#2 The evangelists control 20 years ago it was very common to cover your opponents mouth and use that to control hes head. Is that still a thing? Haha I should have finished the video before posting

[@smasher1234]

This is just rolling on a Tuesday lol. There is a story of the old gracies that would cover your mouth and spit in the cupped hand. Gross 🤢🤢🤢basically spit in your mouth

[@danirox1979]

Evangelicist move offers your arms for easy picking armbars tho, you should have his arms controlled first

[@wlp6200]

More collaborations please... just love watching dudes play techniques during covid...

[@jonesywilliams4595]

One of the best vids yet. You gents work great together. Great job..

[@Chewjitsu]

Thanks buddy

[@markmceathron2013]

Saw Elijah Calton do the fist to the throat from the triangle on Noah Randolph during the PGF Season. I thought it was genius! Noah was posturing really well and Elijah couldn't quite break it enough to pull the head down. So, he just stuck a fist up there and got the tap!

[@foxybrown2]

That's a catch wrestling move. I saw Erik Paulson do that.

[@christinewatkins8444]

What about modifying the evangelist to cover the eyes so that your opponent can't see? Would it be annoying enough to cause a faster reaction? I need help gathering experimental data...

[@chrisadams5124]

I need more jerk moves. I am a white belt and I basically muscle everything and have the tendonitis to prove it.

[@SinzInControl]

Coming back a week later to say the first one has worked flawlessly on white & blue belts so far. (I’m a while belt) been using it all week and it totally works as a distraction to do a stupidly easy sweep/pass.

[@andrestortola3042]

Evangelist control can be used with ibjjf rules?

[@zacharyjoyce3938]

The force choke thing is very easy to counter all u need to do is put your hands on both lapels on both sides and ur hands have to be under theirs and u can easily separate his grip by pulling ur collars away from each other.

[@angelchab5979]

Can you combine the evangelist control and murder choke from mount?

[@joseluizcunha9237]

Wtf, belts are crazy, berimbolo generation....

[@mikecoble2001]

Do you 2 roll for fun? I think it'd be interesting to see 2 black belts roll for a good 20 minutes and narration

[@ishmaellove7614]

Hit that bell, improve your technique and strategy. Osssss

[@theoneanton]

I forgot my glasses, so thought the Chewjitsu logo on the sleeve was a QR code

[@wildexperiense]

Looking good there, when are you cutting some of that hair to look awesome?

[@samouch8344]

Lol I remember when mma said discipline/ respect lol

[@abdelhakym8283]

The only move i'd consider nasty is the knee on face Gordon Ryan used on Ralek Gracie,other than that everything is fine for me

[@georgefremd1802]

Tickle the feet

[@ericr2617]

I've always wondered if there was an effective way to apply the rape choke at higher levels

[@TheStudiolight]

Two of the greatest BJJ teachers on KZbin. Thank you guys!

[@shakazulu6512]

I'm outraged that good old oil check didn't even get a mention!

[@koalaofdeath2045]

can somebody link to Rocha doing the smothering choke?

[@TruthSubjective]

Thank you!

[@svarunstergar5190]

I dont know if i would do that hahaha im sure i wouldnt use murder choke 😂😂

[@ttjkrawec]

I use dat murder choke to frame and stop them from sweeping

[@KCBobArmi]

Great video, now how about a video on the best responses to these techniques?

[@borntobe4419]

2020 Eli seems different. Great stuff guys

[@woody40000]

The muzzle will work faster than most people expect. No matter how many minutes you might be able to hold your breath in ideal conditions you've probably got about 15 seconds when your heart rate is in zone 3+ and good luck recovering from that whilst grappling!

[@InVancouverBC66]

totally agree. Love using it, too.

[@TheJubdestroy]

17:53 the more you replay, the funnier it gets

[@koalaofdeath2045]

Evangelist control had me dying lmfao

[@rodrigoep01]

Cool video my dudes. Thanks.

[@diegobjj99]

this is awesome, Chew & Eli 🥋🙌🔥

[@st6ined190]

one that i like to do is to slide my thumb under the nose and push up, its super annoying and can be surprisingly painful, really good to stop people from tucking their chin.

[@InVancouverBC66]

It really is. Or with friends I just grab their nose and pull it up to open up for the rnc