Let's start a new HARD MODE Folktails playthrough! Timberborn Update 5 Folktails Episode 01

[@crowaust]

At some point you may want to swap out the dams for 2 high flood gates so that you can back up the water onto the higher section in front of the District. Compared with levee + dam on top, it would also allow you to release/flush the bad water quicker in a bad tide.

[@JCTheBeard]

Yes, once we get those unlocked. I have MANY plans for floodgates in this playthrough...

[@GaryRiffel]

Not me screaming at the screen "Delete the path before they cross the red sea!!"

[@IamHattman]

For a early game offbrand version of the fluid dump, you can just drop 2 levees into the river at a corner tile. The water caught in it will give you a bit of irrigation untill you can get a fluid dump going.

[@JCTheBeard]

This is genius! How did I not think of this?

[@IamHattman]

@JCTheBeard Not enough despite scrambling because you're better prepared then I am usually?

[@Someone_in_the_comments]

50:00 just sitting here watching all those beavers running back and forth, over and over, through all the toxic sludge flowing down the river. RIP.

[@obilawnkenobi7230]

I'm so happy I'm not the only one that struggles with early game hard mode on helix

[@mrwalter7205]

This is my favorite game to watch on KZbin! I'm glad youtube finally recommended your channel to me since you have so much beaver content lol

[@DraganAlves]

Thanks for this. I’m currently feeling agitated as my region just had a crazy wind storm that took down trees and power. This video has helped me relax.

[@JCTheBeard]

Stay safe! We've had some crazy weather here, too

[@Steve-od2di]

i think maybe putting in floodgates where the river spits into 2 (small island) then leves that split the main channel, keep the fresh water close to the village, and the other side can be for bad water. That way you will have a small resivoir for fresh water and the ability to keep bad water from killing crops. also grab the mod that opens and closes floodgates, will make your water supply safe.

[@JCTheBeard]

That's a good idea. I actually do have the floodgate automation mod, not sure how far into the video you are but I do show the dialog box for it at some point. Should make it MUCH easier to manage with separate drought and badtide modes 😎

[@Steve-od2di]

@@JCTheBeard yes, skystorm has been using it on his playthru, seems like it works verywell. was funny when i saw the 2 silly beavers running thru the badwater to get some logs. first thing came to mind was "you can't buy brains" , referring to the beavers that is.

[@notabandicoot5227]

Was going to suggest the splitting of the river.

[@Redneck353]

That exactly what i did on my IT run on Helix, works nicely plus if you block upstream enough, by the island becomes a nice spot for aquatic crops

[@caxe1010]

Seems the play would be to split the river, 2 sets of flood gates, keep good water on the close side, and funnel bad water to the far side

[@Krissco2]

That was fantastic. The schadenfreude is flowing.

[@JCTheBeard]

The schadenfreude fuels me 🤣

[@dr_jacko]

I think it would be worth moving your farm and food growth to the area where the pine trees are on the right. That area is 2 blocks above the water and isn't effected by the bad water in the bad tide.

[@alexkudzin4980]

49:40 Is this the JC residence? We are OSHA and the Wildlife Protection Agency, we would like to talk about you sending worker beavers into a contaminated hellscape for logs and berries

[@dr_jacko]

The lack of checkerboard tree cutting is worrying me but then I am not as seasoned in the hard mode game as you.

[@Redneck353]

Would be a great idea in the pine section to the right since those are safer from badtides

[@PauxloE]

If you can get a forester (and have enough wood to last until you get it), the checkerboard pattern is not that needed

[@Redneck353]

@@PauxloE sure but personally on hard i tend to hold the forester as much as possible to build more water storage first

[@squirrelzar]

Checkerboard doesn’t buy you much, you’re always better off rushing the forester as it’s pretty cheap. Relying on natural tree spread will never be enough for o keep up with how much you need early game on hard mode

[@mitchellwalker9839]

Wow. Brutal first episode, No more berries as well.

[@Redneck353]

Oooo that's gonna be interesting! GL, didn't dare to try hard mode yet on U5. Double Yay, Helix is ma favorite map! gave it a little try while Wb we beeing fixed. New helix is 2 days instead of 3 to get water back close to your starting point also.

[@grimnir27]

Idea: make a channel inside "your" bank of the river that is 1 tile wide using levees. Floodgate at the upstream side and dam at the bottom. Open during temperate, closed during droughts and badtides. That 1 tile of water keeps everything irrigated and is a buffer against the sewage...i mean badwater

[@jumpierwolf]

I feel like the side patform mod could be a cool addition to this playthrough.

[@JCTheBeard]

It would definitely add a lot. I was trying to avoid too many heavy mods in this one but we might end up adding a few more eventually

[@ExEBoss]

*@**55:30* The other beaver *(Marvin)* died during the unwell stage of beaver contamination.

[@SurvivalEliteJ]

You survived! Well done! I started a playthrough on this a day before you and all I kept telling myself was 'what will I do if there is a bad tide?' thankfully I didn't get one in my first vid. But I did get 3 in a row in the next one!

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I think you had two beavers sat not collecting berries for quite a while.

[@joseywales6168]

i would have died cycle two, good luck! the badtide adds whole new level of hard mode

[@PauxloE]

Some bad luck at the start, but it looks like we survived the first bad tide. → You'd want a storage for your berries too (or some additional gatherer flags, if you like to play the pausing game) - your first berry gatherer never could collect more than 20 berries at a time. (Though now most of the berry bushes are dead, so it likely doesn't matter much.) → I'd have expected the third and forth lodge to be on top of the first and second, accessible from the top layer. Saves some of the precious ground space which is usable for farming. → A faster way to get some planks in the emergency would be to destroy the stairs to the dam and let your builders collect the rubble, though then you'd also need a plank pile. But that wouldn't be enough for the water dump, only for the stairs. → Medium-term, you might want to add some floodgates near that island a bit upstream, and then a levee to push the bad tide water to the other half of the river.

[@jumpierwolf]

You should raise those dams for more water storage.

[@MP3zilla]

JC at the start of the video "it's hard mode so we gotta make that the most important thing" JC gets everything built and then focuses on science instead of storage JC next time on TimberbornZ: Edit: can confirm one of the unwell beavers died of old age like they were swiping left on the whole contamination then death thing.

[@JCTheBeard]

Do as I say, not as I do 🤣

[@MP3zilla]

@@JCTheBeard 🤣

[@eriqbostock1504]

Loved the video I was just like you gotta stop them from crossing the river over and over and facepalmed for a good minute but I’m excited to see what you will do with this map keep it up

[@ibrayuri8386]

OMG what a bad tidy begging Good luck with the coming cycle I suggest splitting the river into 2 sides using levees, flood gates, and dams so the half that near you fill it with water while the other for badtide

[@marker2468]

This new version of the helix map is dope

[@JulyFlame]

I was 100% expecting that the moment I saw the stairs be placed into the water. A bit more time on the dam to make it a crossing might be wiser if we survive long enough.

[@JCTheBeard]

I think we'll be fine, long term. It will probably be rough for the next couple of cycles though 😂

[@imaginarydragons]

hello to fellow folkstale from south korea. found this game 3 days ago and i'm indulging it XD

[@Silly2smart]

I've been waiting for this map/beaver and difficulty level!

[@brudereinherjer1593]

Here's an idea to protect your fields from the badwater: plant a field a little further south and then irrigate them with a fluid dump, that might help

[@TheNudges]

Just imagine surviving this first bad water but with the new irrigation system now xD

[@mike2672]

Just wanna say hi and gl on youre new adventure. Gonna try this map on hard mode this weekend with the Iron teeth sinds my last play was with the folktails

[@JCTheBeard]

Thanks for watching!

[@antoniapineiro7124]

So in this game you have to sometimes choose between getting quick wood that doesn't last long or go far or wait a long time to get more wood that's longer lasting and more sustainable than the quick wood. As a woman I spend most of my time wanting oaks but settling for birches instead, sometimes pines.

[@vulcanspitfire]

Heck yeah dude I love when you play as folktales

[@IamHattman]

I probably wont be making too many big suggestions to start with this run, since I'm in the middle of running my own playthrough and I'm curious about what you do that's different. That said, the whole tree farm situation you've made is completely different, so here's a suggestion for it. Put levees across the right hand side of the river split at the upper level next to the tree farm. That will entierly block the river from getting into that area.. but that doesn't matter since you have a the fluid dump there now. It will keep the bad tide off of your trees though. The opening here was interesting. For anyone curious, you can just barely rush a dam across the river straight out from the district center doorway before the water disappears. It's technically over 1 day into the drought before I managed to finish it, but because it takes nearly 2 full days for the water to cycle through you can manage to capture enough water for the first drought.

[@JCTheBeard]

We're going to do something with that river area next episode!

[@HeyItsRykon1]

Loving the super hard playthrough, looking forward to trying this map myself.

[@JCTheBeard]

It's definitely a challenge, good luck!

[@williamlaguna4664]

So excited for this playthru!

[@EcceJack]

This was really interesting! I wondered how the bad tides would mess things up in early game..

[@joseywales6168]

loved when he said "it's beaver time" and beavered all over the place

[@imaginarydragons]

this video is very eduactional for a newbie like me. I NEEDed this video thx a lot XD

[@JCTheBeard]

Thanks for watching! Since you mentioned you just got this game, you should also know that this video series started before a bunch of changes to irrigation mechanics were made. A lot of what you see in the first 1/3 of this series should not be taken as a tutorial because so much has changed.

[@imaginarydragons]

@@JCTheBeard Thanks for your kind comment! now i'm gonna watch your recent timberborn videos :) and regardless of changes after this video, it still helped to grasp basic mechanics of the game. like the importance of food in the early game and labor hour control etc.... there were so many things that i didn't come up with my own. i'm back home after work and it's day4 to play timberborn and i'm gonna make sure my beavers THRIVE thanks again for your video and keep up the good work!

[@queryalways]

What did we learn? "Ding dongs, Unfettered disaster & Strategy Meeting" are going to be the recurring call outs during this playthru :) You only need the Healer for the Folktails for healing now :) Make sure the Forester plants some daffordils when they can plant some :) Also, Helix map 1 of my all time fave maps in the game is nw ruined. I don't like it, it's too over worked from what it was; I think they should have bought in a 2nd version, rather than replace the 1st entirely. Looking forward to episode 2!! :)

[@JCTheBeard]

I'm not willing to declare the map "ruined" yet, personally, but it's definitely a huge change from before. We'll see how it ends up turning out once we're further on in the playthrough. I think we can make something really nice out of it 😎

[@zachariahrich3354]

Imo i like this "so far" more than the water beevs.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

Start blasting a big hole around the pumps for a resrvoir and wall it off from the badtide? Looks like fluid dumps are going to be the key for a while. It'd be nice if they worked like real-life and you could not only irrigate the immediate area, but also store it in tanks, like I do on my property. That cliff will come in handy for gravity batteries and such. Levees upstream of town can divert badwater, with sluices to allow good water into town.

[@JCTheBeard]

We'll see what we can do about a reservoir. Might be a bit before we can get explosives, though. And yes, the cliffs will be a big help with the gravity batteries We can do some nice vertical building on this map!

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

Time to send the unwell beavers to the "farm" for a break to get better ;)

[@yeyoman834]

Good vid. Learned a few things.

[@TwistedMe13]

24:00 Famous last words on Hard Mode as they dropped the grace period down to a single cycle. Starting with Cycle 2 you now have a chance for BadTides.

[@IamHattman]

They changed it to 2 cycles on the last update

[@Obsidainstorm]

Considering the wood supply issue, why didnt you go for 1 high gates? I think they take 5 less wood.

[@grapheist612]

Hey, I know this is cold, but I recommend creating a second district and banishing the contaminated beavers there to die of dehydration. They’re just going to take up resources and living space until they die naturally. I think you’re better off speeding up that process.

[@ianjeffery4773]

Do your planting 8-13 tiles from the water, then they get irrigated but not killed by the badtide.

[@FurreverFaith]

I just want to say that Folk Tails do not need Extract to cure contamimation. They use the repurposed dandilions

[@Cheekster15]

New series hype!

[@IamHattman]

This will be interesting! I've been playing this since it ce out. Curious to see how you solve this map

[@oliverwillis8628]

hiii love this cant wait for more

[@JCTheBeard]

Thanks for watching 😎

[@thomasfplm]

18:06 I don't understand why not build it by the river, so once you get the waterwheel it is already there.

[@craigmcfly]

I didn't realise you could build a waterspot with just two levees. Ive been creating entire boxes.

[@JCTheBeard]

I think it's since changed with the irrigation modifications that happened while the first 10 or so episodes of the series were recorded, but yeah, that used to be the primo water dump strategy.

[@sarvabhauma8730]

The first six block dam had to be two blocks high surely?! You would have retained so much more water in the reservoir

[@amauruss]

gooned to this for hours thanks reminds me of my favorite bible verse Nathanial asked upon the heavens, "My LORD, if you can be anywhere at any time, why do you choose us humans on Earth?" To which God replied, "I guess I never really thought about it." And God was never seen nor heard from again. - Galatians 5:22-23 🇹🇷

[@TheJimmijay]

I wish it was possible to choose our own starting points.

[@JCTheBeard]

Would be interesting, although that would also take away some of the challenge if you could deliberately avoid the early game location-based handicaps.

[@a.cunningham4974]

Also To quote Jollywangcore “The Game heard me”

[@JCTheBeard]

It's funny how that works, eh?

[@walkir2662]

- Why potatoes (grill required) as second instead of sunflowers (eaten raw)? - folktails don't have decontamination pods, they use thr healer and dandelions for antidotes. Not that it helps you right this moment, needing gears and treated planks....

[@JCTheBeard]

Because potatoes yield vastly more food per square since the grill essentially multiplies raw potatoes into many more cooked potatoes. Sunflower seeds are just the harvested amount and that's it.

[@alexkudzin4980]

49:39 Will JC notice? Will he???? Surely he must know???? ..... oh... he doesn't R.I.P.

[@DisTurbedSimulations]

I was watching the bad time coming saying "please delete that stairs"

[@JCTheBeard]

Mistakes were made

[@Cheekster15]

Wow. Hard is so much more rough

[@jesterNL]

HP's = Honest Politicians ;)

[@JCTheBeard]

So a complete power outage, then? 😂

[@jasonjazzz5]

If day the KZbinr luck well ran dry, but it didn't. Just filled with bad water :p

[@JCTheBeard]

I was way overdue for an early disaster cycle, given how long it took for me to get a badtide in the last playthrough 😂

[@jamespeacock356]

Got smacked with a bad ride quick on this one

[@JCTheBeard]

RNG giveth, RNG taketh away...

[@lhouwie08]

Im still catching up on ostriv, now theres new 😢 hello sleepless nights😂

[@GameFaceZA]

Excited for the new season.. did you make the timelaps from the screen shots of the last season?

[@JCTheBeard]

I still have 1,000+ pictures to manually sort and rename before I can make that time lapse unfortunately. It's coming, just don't know how soon.

[@GameFaceZA]

@@JCTheBeard dam that’s alot of

[@spikyhairboy17]

what are your pc specs jc

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

i think people who choose to play on hard mode have no right to complain about the waterbeavers being a nightmare 😅

[@JCTheBeard]

I suspect you may be just a _tiny_ bit biased 😂 Hard mode is definitely hard, but IMO it's still nowhere near as hard as waterbeavers. It's the sheer amount of new game mechanics to learn, as well as the requirement to unlearn old habits that makes waterbeavers hard.

[@Lapantouflemagic0]

@@JCTheBeard yeah i think old habits are one of the primary things that cause trouble 😅 actually what i don't like with the hard mode is that it's not really hard per say, it's just...stupid, for a lack of better word. the worst possible cycle is 6day wet season 30 days drought, which is just... boring. there's a thousand ways to make this game harder, but just cutting the water supply 86% of the time and waiting to see if the player die is not a good one

[@JCTheBeard]

Okay yeah, I agree with you on that point. Would be nice for hard to introduce other problems.

[@Redneck353]

I prefer to drop the lodges in the river, saves planting ground.. Ho wait... doesn't work like that

[@gamingseeks3580]

I started a new game on hard on this map also. I had terrible trouble but ok 👍

[@gamingseeks3580]

I used water trick made a waster source to keep food food 😊

[@vmag580]

I am planning to buy timberborn. Do you have a refer code or link which I can use?

[@JCTheBeard]

I don't have anything like that set up, no. But please do buy the game, I'm sure you'll love it!

[@ABDULHADI-ic8dt]

hello jc i love you

[@jasonjazzz5]

So an early district 2 named the graveyard in order? Lol

[@JCTheBeard]

If the community wills it...

[@KevinRivera-b9g]

Skye storme tiene un mod de timberborn para controlar las puertas de agua automáticamente en uno de sus videos en los menciono.

[@JCTheBeard]

Yeah, I have that mod downloaded for this one. We'll be making use of it soon!

[@TheBeardedGreek]

The timing of your science unlocks was perfection. I feel this could be the start of a strong colony. Viva La Beverlution 🦫

[@JCTheBeard]

Let's hope! Thanks for watching 😎

[@Varrizwatches]

I am following your play trough..and they must have done something with the fluid pump exploit cause the pumped in water only waters one or two blocks around it :(

[@JCTheBeard]

Correct, they substantially changed the irrigation mechanics about three separate times during the course of this playthrough. I want to say some time around episodes 7-10?

[@Varrizwatches]

@@JCTheBeard Any tips then how to kind of survive without the handy water dumps?

[@Devilish_Fun]

🐸!

[@JCTheBeard]

🐸

[@Belnivek]

Why did you build dams instead of levees? You would hav used less logs, retained more watter, and flooding wouldn't be an issue due to the 2 high difference.

[@Belnivek]

Forgot about the science cost, maybe that is why.

[@JCTheBeard]

Yeah, science cost was the reason there

[@EcceJack]

I was thinking the same until I realised it was the science, yeah

[@bearstarpresents2264]

Why not put a second farm where the birch and berries are on the other side? That whole part stays green.

[@JCTheBeard]

We will, eventually. Gotta focus on staying alive first!

[@maara174]

What’s wrong with the music?🤣

[@EcceJack]

I was wondering about that, too

[@JCTheBeard]

I don't remember there being any problems with the music

[@KevinRivera-b9g]

Skye storme acaba de subir un tutorial de como hacer un super almacén de 5 pisos en un espacio muy pequeño de timberborn.