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@Leeches-3 ай бұрын
Ever since vanilla i've noticed about 75% of all raid dialogue is spoken in /yell, even 1 on 1 conversations. I can't help but imagine the characters absolutely SCREAMING in each others faces. Illidan: GREETINGS VELEN!!!!!!!!!!!! Velen: HELLOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Pyromancer3 ай бұрын
YOU ARE NOT COMING WITH US?! THE HUNTER IS NOTHING WITHOUT THE HUNT!!!!! DID YOU NOT SEE THIS FATE, PROPHET?!
@bonefetcherbrimley77403 ай бұрын
"GREETINGS ILLIDAN STORMRAGE." Velen said, his neck muscles straining visibly. "AHH, PROPHET VELEN, IT SEEMS YOU'VE FINALLY ARRIVED. COME, LET US DISPATCH OF THESE FOUL DEMONS, SO THAT WE MAY PUT OUR BOOT TO THE LEGION'S THROAT." Illidan replied, voice booming to window rattling levels thanks to his demonic power.
@mr.meatsoup56393 ай бұрын
@@Pyromancer Dumbledore said calmly...
@CorkScrewer3 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see Pyromancer interview the devs from the Ulduar times
@AtlassGaming3 ай бұрын
I love how Algalon transforms the entire room into a vision of the stars, and then just starts shanking you
@TheMetroidblade3 ай бұрын
If that ain’t the very essence of illusion magic I don’t know what is 😂
@yoggsaron14843 ай бұрын
Thats good to chill out and cure some stress
@Pyromancer3 ай бұрын
Oh fuck he’s here…
@yoggsaron14843 ай бұрын
😢@Pyromancer don't be worried mortal. I'm locked here because I have seen Aman'thul snorting line of coke with Eonar and that fucker locked me up here. Fuck titans I'm all for Azeroth now.
@Vanessaira-Retro3 ай бұрын
Ulduar! Still my favorite raid and my best time while playing this game back in WotLK. To this day I still wear the title, "Herald of the Titans". This raid is beyond epic and some many great memories. Cannot wait to return in the "The Last Titan". Maybe there will be a new Hearld of the Titans like raid achievement. Also, MADNESS WILL CONSUME YOU!!!
@Senio66673 ай бұрын
Ulduar is so good! Never took notice of the Poseidon glass windows tho! Perhaps the old gods are a greek type panteron from before the titans arrived!!
@brybeyblade41633 ай бұрын
Yesss finally I can fill my entire lunch break with content
@elliotbottel26743 ай бұрын
You on fire mane!
@Aimeen_3 ай бұрын
CITIZENS OF DALARAN! RAISE YOUR EYES TO THE SKYS AND OBSERVE! Best WotLK Classic WA: [Shut Up Rohnin]
@Complication843 ай бұрын
Not sure if you have covered this idea or not. The "old" Gods are actually the Greek'esq pantheon that existed on Azeroth, and were forcibly altered by the Titans when they ordered or reoriginated the planet. Which could have completely mutated and twisted what the Gods were before. Random thought I had seeing the Poseidon stain glassed window.
@appa58943 ай бұрын
The Old Gods are Titan Constructs with the curse of flesh.
@sen4zen6733 ай бұрын
Great Insight as Always !!
@Huron233 ай бұрын
The funny thing is, that I belive that Forge of Origination was already starting it's work during our encounters in Ulduar. Or so I've heard :D
@Dribbledribbles3 ай бұрын
I think the fact that the old god pictures are in the bottom is interesting since it says the titans built everything on top of original structures.
@bonefetcherbrimley77403 ай бұрын
1:114:24 I agree with Thornefield. I too like how Algalon stops and considers and goes. "Maybe I am in the wrong...I need to do some self reflection." That's some intriguing self-awareness.
@bock59943 ай бұрын
Love these videos. Been in these dungeons/raids so many times but always run past so much of the lore.
@Kniteone_3 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO Always love seeing the hardwork you put into every video
@bonefetcherbrimley77403 ай бұрын
So to access the planetarium, we need sigils from the keepers. Didn't we ALSO need sigils from the eternal ones in shadowlands? Are the eternal ones just watchers too?
@inquisitortrevelyan26063 ай бұрын
That's what I always thought they were.
@OLESILA3 ай бұрын
FINALLY !
@RobinMontecinos3 ай бұрын
I am very happy that you are back to making wow content, I have really enjoyed these lore tours. A big hug from Chile
@MrWalsh7073 ай бұрын
one of my ideas is that the old gods are just titan experiments
@meowcenaries8204Ай бұрын
I didn't know I needed Pyromancer's voice overs of Brann until today. Bless. 10/10
@TheMetroidblade3 ай бұрын
Ive been leveling a priest recently and part of that I wanted to pick up Xal'ateth in Legion because Ive never done those quests and War Within is coming out. So as soon as you pick her up she wants you to absorb the void inside Zakajz. This shocked me for two reasons. He is lying in a pool of liquid that is the same color as the essence Iridikron absorbs from Galakron and when you use the blade to actually absorb, it looks like Anduin's vision from the cinematic. Later you cleans a Naaru by sucking the void out with her and same colors. I read, because I havent gotten that far yet, that Xal'ateth, along with the other legion artifacts absorbed the energy from Sargeras sword. My theory is that Xal'ateth is a baby Old god they made using Titan facilities. Old Gods are made of flesh. What if they also made an "earthen"? If you look at the blade it makes no sense as a weapon. but if you put the like handguard spikes down like legs it kind of looks like a weird bug or being with its eye and the blade being a big probuscus (butterfly tongue). She just finally has enough energy/N'zoth unlocked her next form?
@stoneguard21373 ай бұрын
One of the planets in the algalon area is azeroth sideways you can make out some of the lands like winterspring, Stranglethorn, lordaeron, etc. think you said it was the eonar one.
@johnnies.verton4432Ай бұрын
"I think Dalaran is going to fall out of the sky" Nailed it.
@Jamby5isalive3 ай бұрын
of the insane number of times that I've done this raid... the can opener is mind blowing. holy expletive batman. Snake on the left of the woman cloaked in shadow? the snake head? im not crazy! you're crazy!
@MrRad5863 ай бұрын
What I've never paid any attention to is that before the fight, Algalon speaks in a very robotic way. After we beat the shit out of him, he starts talking like a normal, sane being. Was his mind controlled / dominated by the titans ?
@V.R.Photography3 ай бұрын
One of the items Vezax drops is Voldrethar, Dark Blade of Oblivion, which has sparked many speculations too. It's name is eerily similar to the walls / gates in Icecrown.
@mariobrito4273 ай бұрын
28:30 really makes me remember the defeat of Zovaal, looks like they get a few seconds of sanity back before dying while being dominated (or at least that's my take)
@balthasarroussel69563 ай бұрын
The Constellar seem so machine-like to me. It's hard to believe they're a race of benevolent beings the titans just "came across". They speak just like the robots on the other side of Ulduar and really it just makes me think of Norgannon
@merfah70223 ай бұрын
Are you doing The Eternal Palace? Freya being in front of hallway that leads to Yogg gave me "Old Gods aren't full void, but also life" vibes. The fact Yogg got two lines mentioning "dream" and "nightmare" keeps giving me hints that they might've come from the Emerald Dream originally. Lately, I can't get off my head the idea Old Gods aren't just some "lesser void parasites" like that chart shows.
@Jiromeru2 ай бұрын
Pyro: "I think Dalaran's gonna fall out of the sky." 1 month later, the media tour happens ... *It's Happening.gif*
@Slimjim21473 ай бұрын
My problem with the planets stuff before algalon and the thought maybe we'll visit them; I think Blizz has completely forgotten about these small lore tidbits they put in the environments. The story and lore has evolved so much and so many different people are working on the story now, I think all this stuff is just completely missed by the people working the story because they never really paid attention to the small details. Hopefully now that Metzen is back he'll be like "yo remember all they lore stuff in ulduar? Let's actually develop that"
@jinxphantomhive51453 ай бұрын
The wild thing about that green spinning machine pyro screenshot, its the green pulsing power is coming out of those bulbs with green motion in them, but in every other instance its just the green bulbs.
@MrMHC2 ай бұрын
I always wondered what was in the inaccessible parts of Ulduar. I hope we get to explore some more in the World Soul Saga.
@lowelo6633 ай бұрын
Algalon reminds me so much of Dr.Manhattan from The Watchmen the way he talks to you and how you believe in life etc.
@baro64473 ай бұрын
the antechamber music will always be S tier
@fattymatty93193 ай бұрын
50:05 looks like a snake on the left and a vrykul or maybe keeper on the right facing each other/middle. The face in the middle makes me think pandaria, like it has an Asian aesthetic to me, and the snakes tail seems to make a path that heads towards the face in the middle but then make a beeline for the vrykul/titan keeper looking thing on the right. So if the snake represents the old gods; than maybe, the old gods that were left were headed towards pandaria (not necessarily physically) to see what happened to yasharj and got sidetracked? Like amanthul ripped yasharj out of the planet and that would make the other old gods go, “whoa what was that?!” So they mobilize to see what’s up, and then all these new things start popping up on the planet…. Beeline for the vrykul/keeper looking thing explained. imo
@Boomken763 ай бұрын
42:36 holy shit your right, never saw that.🤣🤣✌✌
@aaricgrendrake3 ай бұрын
The way Yogg portrays himself in multiple ways as a female Vrykul almost makes me think that the stained glass with the feminine humanoid head and tentacles might by about him.
@legendaryh98453 ай бұрын
A hammer.. 🎺 🎺 and a woman wearing a bow.. 🎺!! 🎶 🎺!! I used to think 🎺 Alleria and Turalyon 🎺!!! 🎺!! 🎼 🎺
@NotjustGrey23 күн бұрын
What he said: Red pillars What I heard: red pillers The context worked.
@stephencampbell760327 күн бұрын
Love your 'angry Brann' voice
@MrThundaro3 ай бұрын
Wait, the chains were weakend by a TIME traveller? Doesn't Amun Thul say that it takes HIS power to bind Argus?
@christophercelmer4053 ай бұрын
What if the old gods are other world souls after they were drained of all their power.
@Boomken763 ай бұрын
its looking more like you said, the races were always this way and were ordered, with the "curse of flesh" is the ordering wearing down.
@rasmuskjaerpoulsen2 күн бұрын
When you looked at the stained glass i'd say that Blue eyes is cthun Red eyes is n'zoth Green eyes is Y'Shaarj No eyes (tentacle one) Yogg If you see how they are depicted in various pictures thats the eyecolor they all have. And Yogg doesnt have eyes at all.
@normannseils39363 ай бұрын
Pyro doing a lore run of my favorite raid, sign me in.
@mausii29103 ай бұрын
i find it kind of interesting, that you specifically have to wak through 3 broken windows to get down there at 50:53 looks like all titan prisons are contained of 3 layers?
@NetherCrafterSMC3 ай бұрын
Yogg-Saron just be like: "Yes please kill me, free me from this prison (his own body))"
@Aerisot3 ай бұрын
I have been saying for years that the Old Gods are not what we were told they were, we found out who the void was by the dreadlords, and they have been spreading lies about the void, to cause a war, I think the Old Gods were the original Keepers that were experimented on by the titans and or Odyn himself, which is why some of the keepers are missing. And this will be controversial (if proven true) but I think N'zoth is the original Tyr.
@tylermcnally82323 ай бұрын
The stained glass before yogg saron has the woman with tentacles in the middle like shes the mother of the old gods.
@TekharthaMondatta3 ай бұрын
I've always interpreted the "Descent into Madness" as Yogg's influence either warping reality or our perception of it, since there's no real logic to the architecture. The path doesn't make sense from a construction POV, there's nothing connecting the rooms or entrances, and the entire Vezax room is an anomaly: why/how would the keepers build a room like that without any way to access it, how did the Twilight's Hammer get in? The platforms are already a way in for the keepers, there's no need for the side entrance.
@chamberkill003 ай бұрын
holy shit 1h vid from Pyro pog
@GioFan2010513 ай бұрын
The Old Gods aren't dead. Y'shaarj's death almost caused Azeroth's death, that's why the Titans imprisoned the other ones. So the theory of beating them back into their prisons makes a lot of sense. See Tribunal of Ages boss where it is clearly stated. It's true though, that the devs said they are dead which is a contradiction of their own lore.
@lazlonazario24993 ай бұрын
I imagine Amanthul and Primus talking about controlling beigns and ordering like politics talking about controlling people
@Sparda112223 ай бұрын
So if our initial theory is that Azeroth is not a baby titan and is in fact something greater, imprisoned by the titans.. why did Yog called her a miserable little seedling? I doubt that the old gods are in the dark as we are. Why would they believe Azeroth to be a seedling?
@floorboard5633 ай бұрын
Sooo. The trees empower Freya…..And the Titans want the power of Azeroth….And we’ve planted a bunch of massive Trees like Nordrassil, Teldrassil etc much with the aid of Eonar’s Dragons…….
@burtonkevin323 ай бұрын
The pictures hiding a path is like dragonflight abberus raid last boss. Makes me think they built ON TOP of existing structures. We do know that Odin wanted no evidence of anything before them.
@burtonkevin323 ай бұрын
How bad could the old gods be if the mortals knew “our” keepers are using things they made
@shmiga023 ай бұрын
What if the whole reason old gods got imprisoned and not killed is eonars obsession of preservation of life?
@Kniteone_3 ай бұрын
Him talking about Poseidon being represented to be N'zoth got me thinking about how rune weapons spit soul from body. Could Neptulon be the person in the stained glass? Would N'zoth possibly at one point been united with Neptulon? C'thuun for example hides deep underneath silithus hes also big and fat like Therazane. Even in the murals they have similar color schemes... The C'thuun stained glass has an orange crystal just like Therazane does...(I could be crazy) I know that the old gods and elementals fought one another...could that have been a lie?
@clm193 ай бұрын
I will never not be impressed by his dwarf voice. The inflection, pauses... everything. Dude could literally voice act his own dwarf npc in the game if they let him.
@rasmuskjaerpoulsen2 күн бұрын
Wait a minute. What if all the old gods was imprisoned when they had their original forms and the only way they became these abominations is because Xalatath told them she could free them if they embraced the void? And maybe thats why Xalatath says "for so long, she has denied me". Because Azeroth didnt take the bait. That explains why she is the only one left of the old gods that is still imprisoned. The parallels with Azeroth and the old gods is just too similar. They bleed through the earth and make minerals like Saronite and Azerite. Yoggs power is greenish and harvested by the titans for their use. Azeroths power is yellow/blue ish and likely also harvested by the titans?
@rasmuskjaerpoulsen2 күн бұрын
I swear even the elemental lords look like they could be the children of the old gods. They could have co-existed in peace before being imprisoned and when Xal helped them escape, it caused the era of the black empire
@TheRazagen3 ай бұрын
@50:00 i think this is just a representation of "Sara" like its one of Yogg's representations they made into a panel? I'm not sure though, but i felt it was simple at first, but the other panels leading up to it for a long time stumped me. Your interpretation is vveeerry interesting.
@burtonkevin323 ай бұрын
This is what they couldn’t stop at uldaz or w/e the other titan facility across the waves.
@louistremblay12183 ай бұрын
the old gods being actual old gods who were benevolent beings who served azeroth the creator, then got twisted and corrupted by the titans and particularly eonar, and then turned into cancerous lifeforms and then imprisoned, its pretty far teched but i like the concept, who knows
@connorbaillie1213 ай бұрын
Wonder if anyone has ever thought of somehow making a puzzle of the shattered glass before vezax and re assembling it to make a full picture
@thomaswilburn62633 күн бұрын
eonar feels like the plant people on draenor
@marvin40983 ай бұрын
best wow channel period.🙏😤
@mr.meatsoup56393 ай бұрын
What happened to Algalon after the encounter? Where did he go? What is he going to do? I wouldnt be surprised if we see him in the upcoming expansions.
@appa58943 ай бұрын
in the twin image. Instead of the tapesty. Its 3 necklaces
@Fireontire3 ай бұрын
Maybe I am late to the party but I believe Eonar is a corrupted Titan. Specifically she is corrupted by Life.
@jorge561773 ай бұрын
Are you gonna go to Uldir too?
@fredmackinnon78993 ай бұрын
Algalon is Adult Gohan!
@JonRusso_7833 ай бұрын
Ulduar is my favorite raid. It’s packed with actually known and important NPCs (keepers) and lore
@Buildonsound7 күн бұрын
So I got a question/problem regarding Ulduar and the Titans and the Glass in lead art work. why did the Titans make Glass in lead artwork of not 1 not 2 but multiple Old Gods?? Seems a bit odd to make/have artwork of your enemy or is it just me? (lets ignore the weird art work like the babies for example) It just seems odd for the Titan's that is all.
@fattymatty93193 ай бұрын
If you change some nouns that algalon ending speech could have been a lich king ending speech 😅
@anut3432 ай бұрын
I was gonna comment earlier on in the video, when you stated the Thorim fight was annoying. Sure as shit you got caught in the big annoying circle. I always forget about it on farming runs.
@xzBorn_3 ай бұрын
1:07:56 so why do you mention Xal’atath in General Vezax’ room? Was she a known entity when Ulduar was released?
@Pyromancer3 ай бұрын
Not as far as we are aware. There have been hints at a fifth old god since the prophecy of Cthun in Vanilla, if I’m remembering correctly. Whether or not Xal is one of them or was conceptualized that long ago is not for certain. I don’t appreciate this seeming attempt at a “gotcha” by trying to use what I said against me, but it’s a fair question.
@xzBorn_3 ай бұрын
@@Pyromancer I am sorry, I should have chosen my words more carefully as I did not intend to ”gotcha” you. (Is that a phrase?) Thank you for taking the time to answer.
@crazymat695 күн бұрын
You said we didn't know about argus but it was the draeni homework and we already had draeni at this point in the game?
@Boomken763 ай бұрын
we used to take a raid break on her while are rogue went threw and herbed everything.
@zerosiii3 ай бұрын
Horns of Y'sharajsh are the same as the Primus
@fizzlepop53183 ай бұрын
What story are the Stained Glass telling? The first room, may show the original forms of these beings. The next room has the woman's window shattered. And the window with the two babies, only one is displayed. Could this show corruption or perhaps metamorphosis? Perhaps this is depicting something that happened long ago. Perhaps the twins are the children of the man and woman. Perhaps, only one twin remained, and was corrupted after the loss of the man and woman. In the second room, there is no window depicting the man which was shown in the previous room. If there is meaning to this, I am not sure. But interesting all the same.
@fizzlepop53183 ай бұрын
Since there are fragments of the broken windows, i'm curious if anyone has ever attempted to recreate them in photoshop, putting the pieces back together.
@stefanpervoost89843 ай бұрын
Why does a faceless one have to guard the prison?
@andreiciotir5735Ай бұрын
What if the old gods are some sort of ancient ultrapowerfull denizens of azeroth cursed by voidlords to become these old gods(sorry for my bad english, its not my native language)
@hassamlatif11693 ай бұрын
Is there a single titan facility on azeroth that isn't utterly fucked up by external forces lol
@quandaryn12313 ай бұрын
The confirmation bias is strong with this one.
@burtonkevin323 ай бұрын
Why would the old gods not want them to have the sigils to not be reoriginated?
@ryanerickson30632 ай бұрын
Dalaran will fall from the sky...😢
@Tiex692 ай бұрын
What if Sargaris is a true titan, and thats why he is able to take on the others.... They aren't true Titans.
@Hey-Malo3 ай бұрын
Coincidentally, I just got my first bad dragon uwu
@Stryken1013 ай бұрын
First?
@suicidalsavior6663 ай бұрын
the smashed stainglass would represent the ones that have been killed before? 3 broken....one ripped from azeroth....cthun...
@embraceembrayzie81883 ай бұрын
Top notch lore and speculation videos but I always cringe when you do the Brann or Magni voice .. I don't know, I can't help it