Let's Talk About the Bullseye Situation: Does He Need a Bigger Nerf? | Mcoc

[@gito4066]

Imo, if you can full dex his sp1 you deserve no bleed damage

[@Brei.]

His nerf is very underwhelming. He needs to be nerfed much more.

[@edisonlaw934]

I wish they made his evade counterable with slow or ability accuracy reduction except from science champs, that way more champions would be viable

[@sir_clapsalot4011]

He’s a skill why should science be more viable

[@edisonlaw934]

@@sir_clapsalot4011 I’m saying science champs shouldn’t be able to shut down bullseye with like concussion or disorient, etc.

[@zakarysantana2635]

@@sir_clapsalot4011read it again since you cant comprehend

[@vgautamkrishna5197]

Slow from science doesn't work on skills anyway

[@edisonlaw934]

@@vgautamkrishna5197 yes because of class disadvantage, same with mystics, they can't slow a science champ

[@Nonyabizz1234]

That's the bare minimum what about the block bleeds from special attacks? What about THE KILLER INSTINCT That lasts forever and instead of ticking down immediately he gets a bar of power like DOMINO it waits till you eat a special before ticking?

[@aubrey6373]

Great job Nagase, way to break it down! I really appreciate it!! I was waiting to rank him up until the rebalancing info dropped. 🤛🏾 I took him to r4 yesterday, but feel much better about it after watching the vid.

[@bruce_bison]

Kabam: The rebalancing program is key to the health of the contest! (Trollface)

[@ImSaberToothh]

His SP1 needs a huge nerf. I hate that he can automatically throw it as soon as he gets it. Incredibly stupid, no other champ does this and he prolong fights for BGS.

[@BreadMane]

Automatic ban, I rather fight a rank 6 7* photon than fight a 5* bullseye.

[@ggt9993]

Bullseye is the number 1 defender in this meta of BG that sp1 is gonna give him so much armor it’s insane and he literally got buffed cuz 2 bullseye counters arc angel and warlock like u said are just gonna be a lot less fun too use and another loss with that aswell is that these are old champions which means most of people in higher battleground ranks have these so I feel as if there making bullseye just an instant ban/pay to win character

[@ThePoolo12]

Champs this year can't be better than mid 😂😂

[@warfamegaming]

In my opinion I shouldn't take 20 percent damage blocking a special attack 😐

[@CastleFrank0819]

I mean Dani moonstar still gets shredded by him but I mean kabam has been making every champion power creep every class and release counters for these power creep champions that only valiant players are able to obtain

[@polwrocaw6605]

I had 2-3 skill gem after act 8. Waited so long for info about bullseye rebalance. Instant rankup after it.

[@user-lp2un7rc9x]

I just pulled Dust and am anxious to see what she does against Bullseye. Not holding my breath, but I can still hope. Anyone try new Dust champion yet?

[@Andrew-fb8ph]

She’s pretty good against bullseye, bleed immune and tanky, plus you can slow play for most the fight, then burst him down in sandstorm, so killer instinct isn’t as bad.

[@koraboinaneelaveni7147]

He shouldn't get nerfed if he does we need rank down tickets

[@crb4528]

If they nerf him more in defense they need to tune up his attack. I don't wanna rank down my 7r3 😅

[@user-lp2un7rc9x]

Kabams revenge for Hercules

[@viktor1master]

We have megasonic in new featured is not that enough?

[@CastleFrank0819]

He definitely needs to be nerfed even more specifically his sp1 either that or his “killer instinct”

[@normalnormansizzle]

Theres no reason to have to take damage from dexing an attack, thats what dex is supposed to be

[@faustoutloud]

They should have reduced his block damage from sp1 and given him passive furys when we use him on offense lol or something to make him better on offense and a bit less when hes on D lol.

[@dtm2112]

Should've just removed the instant bleed on dex overall, not just on basics. Maybe he gets a fury if you dex it, but taking damage when you don't get hit is just a terrible mechanic. He'd still has the guaranteed crits and instant bleeds even through block and his Killer Instinct which i think is more than enough

[@indigo1868]

i rly wish they buffed bullseye by increasing the fury potency and duration, when fighting against bullseye, if ur playing correctly he shouldn't ever get his fury as he only gets that when he evades, so it won't rly make him more annoying on defence unless u mess up which i think is fine, if u mess up, being punished by a hard defender is fine and it'll make him so much better on attack and the way i would fix bullseye on defence is each time he causes a bleed through block, the bleed damage is reduced for a small amount of time, this way u can block all of his sp1 and the bleeds will get weaker every hit meaning he still inflicts the bleed damage and the crit damage but now it's manageable for non bleed immunes

[@dabeast8991]

its an ok change, if they took away his damage on sp1, bullseye becomes a nothing defender. the dex thing with no bleed is actually helpful cause sometimes the bullseye ai straight up refuses to throw sp1 and on champs like sunspot its annoying to parry him to bait out the sp1

[@slinger5206]

I mean I guess, there are plenty of other defenders that require you to really have a specific counter to take them, but I am not hearing a ton of let's nerf them. There are several really good counts that can't take Bullseye. Not sure why it's such a big deal when we have other champs that are pretty much the samething.

[@jeanfigueroa9637]

Right, especially when you consider champs like dust,onslaught, maestro, or the serpent. Nobody complains about them so I don’t understand why people want bullseye to get more nerfed. Especially when there is counters towards him (bleed immune champs for example)

[@slinger5206]

@@jeanfigueroa9637 exactly

[@muxie4877]

@@jeanfigueroa9637 You can take any onslaught in BGs in about 60s with 90%+ health with any good attacker, you cannot do the same with bullseye. As for the serpent, ppl complain about him all the time: he is worse to fight than bullseye. I want only one thing: if I can perfect dex his sp1 (it's not easy) I should take no dmg regardless of champion I use.

[@jeanfigueroa9637]

@@muxie4877 the problem with onslaught is he can play super passive and get you as soon as you try to punish him. His AI is just as bad (or worse) than bullseye. This isn’t new that there’s champs you can’t dex there specials, considering photon (when her thing activates), punisher 2099, apocalypse (sp1 it’s somewhat avoidable), I can’t think of more champs that are hard to dex when it comes to specials but I understand your point, my point is there will always be champs who’s sps are just impossible to dex. It’s all about counters in the end of the day, if you can’t handle bullseye then simply ban him on BG (I understand the issue isn’t just in BG, but AW as well. But there you can bring a specific counter against him.)

[@muxie4877]

​@@jeanfigueroa9637 I agree that there are issues with AI, but they are separate from the discussion about the champions themselves. The thing is, there is nothing inherently busted about onslaught, while the same cannot be said about bullseye. The core issue is not that his sp1 is almost impossible to dex, but that the punishment we, players receive when we are facing him is too great. In essence the issue with bullseye is the same as with magik back in the day: you can play perfectly and you will still receive dmg most of the time. It's just a sign of lazy design. Look at a golden standard of the defenders: korg. He has been super strong on defense for ages but you can get him down with full yellow bar with ANY champ in the game. This means that his kit leaves a lot of room for skill expression while facing him. I'm okay with hard defenders, but at least make it possible (I'm not saying it should be easy) to finish without taking dmg. I would even be fine with them BUFFING bullseye in some other way but delete the stupid bleed on dex, I sould never get punished for doing the right thing. Ofc, it doesn't matter cuz Kabam as per ususal will do nothing, and just continue to release new champs scientifically designed to counter the problems they have created.

[@Omaal8x]

Thats a good nerf, now i can nuke him with Stark Spidey

[@germancamposmunguia7260]

7* Will be ok after the nerf

[@TheGentleman1911]

Mr. Sinister

[@faustoutloud]

😅😅😅 they call this a nerf ? Lol what about the million damage we take in the block from his sp1 lol not sure if it's the new meta but my bishop is taking alot more damage then usual idk lol

[@sorealbhadoria]

People need to understand there is more to the game than battlegrounds. Stun immune Bullseye boss used to do a lot of damage when trying to find an opening to attack. Not anymore.

[@nickvin7447]

He wasn't nerfed, actually he was buffed.

[@barbar1an_]

I dont think he needed nerfs to begin with

[@C000DY]

When I play against bullseye... I've never even remotely been able to push him to sp2.. never. Why create a champ that constantly sp1s.. ? It's fkn dumb.. literally every other champ.. you have to be careful you don't push them to sp3.. Allllll off them.. why create a kit that does t even run through his sps?? And more often then not you can't even stun him. So how is it even a match, or a fight.. when the a.i. does the same fkn shit.. it's boring..and honestly.. if you sp when his green eye pops up, or if you do somthin.. doesnt matter.. I think it should fall off somehow.. give the opponent somthing to make it fall off..

[@Daddygram1]

Everybody in this cs likes crying lmao. Learn how to counter him, stop crying👍. Bullseye literally has 6+ counters. There are players that kill bullseye and remain with 99 health

[@jeanfigueroa9637]

Facts bro

[@muxie4877]

You mean exactly 3 players that can perfect dex his sp1 using a bleed immune champ? No one is saying he cannot be countered, only that he is TOO HARD to counter. That is not an opinion but a fact that Kabam agrees with (hence the nerf). The issue is that this change does not address the main issue ppl have lol.