Let's talk some "The Acolyte" (Episodes 1 & 2) with Thor & Naboo

[@PixelKatana]

I agree about Sol. He was the standout for me.

[@sailornaboo5725]

A+ character!

[@azean84]

I'm in awe of how good his English is having learnt it to be in this. I know plenty of fellow Brits that can't speak the language that well 🤣

[@abthedragon4921]

"I hate the little droid" Hey! "He can't walk around" Alright fair enough

[@shinymk6562]

Ok something I just realized is a big problem: if Yord is supposed to be hot headed and barely knighted two years ago, why would you send a relatively young knight and their oadawan to detail someone you believed killed a high ranking Jedi Master. There should be at least a council member and another knight for backup.

[@cipher48]

Yeah. The jedi sent two high ranking masters to investigate that murder on Raxus on Tales of the Jedi. Dooku and Windu are the best of what the order had to offer, and the jedi murdered wasn't even on the council

[@miragewizard]

Hey Thor, since one of the main characters of The Acolyte is OSHA, is Disney making a statement about the Occupational Safety and Health Administration with this show?

[@thorskywalkerplus]

Well, it is interesting to note that Osha is a 'mechnek' and that it's apparently a very dangerous job and one that is not approved of by the Republic...

[@miragewizard]

@@thorskywalkerplus ROFL!

[@masterswordwielder]

​@@miragewizardwhat administration is ROFL an acronym of?

[@miragewizard]

@@masterswordwielder The Clinton Administration

[@DildoDaggins69]

@@thorskywalkerplus The twist is: Osha became an advocate for the installation of handrails throughout the SW galaxy, and came so close to passing a galactic safety law guaranteeing handrails for all the galaxy's citizens, but, the Republic balked at the bill and they worked in collusion with the Sith to have her assassinated. This is why you never hear about OSHA or see a handrail in the OT.

[@PixelKatana]

I can’t get over a swiss army knife being more lethal than 2 lightsaber stabs.

[@presidentmillardfillmore1329]

Idk, that feels more of a problem with Ahsoka, not with the Acoytle

[@PixelKatana]

@@presidentmillardfillmore1329 It's a problem with the loremasters at Lucasfilm who should be checking for goofy things like that being introduced into canon.

[@joshbourne9679]

I mean I’m hoping in this show the lightsabers will be lethal lolll

[@JoRoq1]

@@presidentmillardfillmore1329Maul and Reva (twice) happened before Sabine. And even Fennec survived a gut shot over a long journey across a desert to make it to a modder to save her life, also before Sabine. Sabine is actually the (relatively) most believable survival, as Ahsoka was already on the way before the fight and had both training and supplies on hand to apply battlefield first aid.

[@guilhermepupo2840]

this is a problem with acolyte? this is more problem with ahsoka

[@LumVaughan]

Seeing Osha rip the droid's head off to pick a lock was a bit alarming. The suicide Jedi (floaty Jedi is better!) seemed a bit odd. He just goes to a 'local Jedi temple' (according to subtitle) and hovers all day? And is Mae going to proclaim her challenge to all four of the Jedi ('Attack me with all of your strength!')? It's odd that if you look on-line, Amandla Stenberg is listed as portraying Mae, but Osha was not mentioned, at least not on the IMDb database. Since it isn't a big secret, why wouldn't they credit her with Osha, since she has more airtime than Mae? The acting was really rather bad, I'm not sure why the obnoxious Jedi with the crazy hair had his robes off (what was he doing?) but since he seems so ignorant, he'll probably turn out to be one of the big bad guys. All the males in the first two episodes, except for Master Sol, come across as fools or idiots. Floaty Jedi kills himself -- so much for enlightenment. Osha's character seems like it was pulled out of a kid's Star Wars video game an the droid has to be the most pitiful thing I've ever seen. It makes Lola (Leia's droid on Kenobi) look much better. The poor thing is a paraplegic droid! The aliens do look quite good, especially the Jedi aliens. But Jecki is really as obnoxious as Yord and she comes across too 'goody goody' and as a suck-up to Master Sol. I would not be surprised to see that she is actually working for the Sith (or whatever) by the end of the season. The whole thing is a bit amateurish feeling and hasn't grabbed me yet. It's funny that the best acting has been from the Korean guy that had to learn English for the role!

[@cipher48]

For comparison, in House of the Dragon, Jefferson Hall portrays identical twins and he is listed in imdb for doing both characters: Jason and Tyland Lannister

[@Bradical204]

Wouldn't the trade federation ship be able to easily prove Oshas innocence by proving she didn't leave their ship since she wouldn't have access to their hyperdrive and (if they did have smaller ships docked she could have taken) checking logs to see if any of them were taken at any point? Also there wasn't any security cameras anywhere inside or around the bar?

[@spearhead4800]

They were given leave for the weekend and allowed to go down to nar shada so technically she could of just hired a ship and get back in time (potentially)

[@JoRoq1]

The lack of cameras is actually a rare consistency in the franchise, though in this case I think it’s more an accident from the writing rather than a deliberate consideration. The concept of pervasive high-quality digital cameras is very current day, and far removed from the then-familiar aesthetic of the 1970s and 1980s when security camera systems were expensive, cumbersome (requiring a lot of physical space for hardware and manpower to manage), and only provided low-quality images.

[@cloudmaster182]

​@JoRoq1 so star wars has consistently lacked security cameras (other than the jedi temple in episode 3 for somereason) and you think in THIS instance they just forgot to include them???

[@Bradical204]

@spearhead4800 Then check for records for any ship that docked with the trade ship between when her friends left and when she was seen again.

[@Cortesevasive]

Trade federation dont give a f about expendable workers. Probably dont keep records too , if they work illegally outside.

[@tremontefr5617]

I really don't understand what they are trying to do with this franchise anymore. These two episodes are absolutely boring. I don't know if its the script or the acting or both but with the exception of Sol it all seems fake or forced. I am tired of this franchise that was a pop culture phenomenon put through the gutter. Seriously if these stories were made and are still made for “children,” as I’m always reminded. Fine I do not expect the series to be Game of Thrones, but can we make them Harry Potter good? Why are people settling for Nickelodeon? At this point they are trolling fans with having people impaled with Lightsabers living but a dagger is more lethal. Or the sets so cheap that we have a person using binoculars to watch a fight two meters away. What happen to the Padawan ?

[@sparrow4207]

This show lost me almost immediately. Carrie Ann Moss's character KNEW that the assassin was going to use the bystander as a decoy and did nothing to counter the attack, almost like she let it happen. The next Jedi master died by committing suicide. That's two Jedi Master's who essentially killed themselves. The show seems to be hinting that 4 jedi were part of something bad that happened in the past and might be experiencing some type of guilt about it. The writer's of these Disney Star Wars projects seem to SEVERELY lack the understanding of what it means to be a Jedi MASTER. This is akin to seeing Obi Wan , another Jedi Master having ptsd and struggling with fear and cutting himself off from the force. Jedi Master's are trained from childhood to let go and be beyond these base human instincts.

[@JoRoq1]

It’s not lack of understanding, it’s deliberate. In interviews they said that this show was about power and institutions (which from the progressive activist view, institutions and the people who support them are bad). The Jedi are the institution in this series, so they are being portrayed according to that point of view.

[@ultimate8550]

Here is the twist I think might happen: Mae ends up being killed by the Jedi, and the Jedi for political reasons try to cover up the death (perhaps she is killed while unarmed or after surrendering). This betrayal starts Osha down the dark path. The actual "acolyte" is going to be Osha, by the end of the season. It would be a great way of foreshadowing how the Jedi are already beginning to allow political motivations to guide their actions, as opposed to the will of the force or doing the right thing. I think the outcome of this story will also go towards explaining why the Jedi in the prequels are so hesitant to take on older Padawan's that already have established connections with their family. Even though Mae is a murderer, Osha will always be more loyal to her sister than the Jedi. Just as Anakin would eventually be more loyal to those he loved than the Jedi. The other theory is that the Jedi council throws Sol under the bus somehow, and that this also pushes Osha away from the light. In either case, I think that some kind of short sighted political move is going to bite the Jedi in the ass and result in Osha falling to the darkside.

[@Hlbkomer]

You’ve put way more thought into this than the show creators. It would be really interesting. So it definitely won’t happen.

[@ultimate8550]

@@Hlbkomer I really hope you are wrong lol.

[@Hlbkomer]

@@ultimate8550 I’ll bet you one ruined franchise :)

[@edyz0r]

nah, it will be something way more dumber and lazier

[@rogerpalsgrove9678]

Thor: as long as it doesn't suck. Me going into it: as long as I don't hate it.

[@vehnashur2771]

If you just drop the culture war anti-woke nonsense and watch The Acolyte, you will probably enjoy it. I think the lead and Yord are pretty good in this. Well everyone is.

[@tom2gunzbombadil689]

Funny...I felt the complete opposite. I liked Osha and didn't like Mae.

[@tobywareing6435]

"Gayest star wars ever" "C3P0 is not straight" "R2D2 is a lesbian" the director saying this lets me know all I need to about this terrible show, not watching a single second of it.

[@jspthesecond0723]

The show is written very bad. "BUt I EnjOyEd It" Those are two different things. Silly plot full of contrivances, I think the writers believe us viewers to be idiots. Poor pacing, unnecessary travel time then dialogue to tell us things we learned moments earlier. This makes Kenobi look great.

[@tanisparker1282]

I was raised a fan. For sakes my brother's name is Anakin and of course his son's name is Luke.... It's getting embarrassing to be associated with stars wars

[@larryjones1333]

It’s trash, Poorly written, poorly acted, not Star Wars

[@worthyvix7654]

“You put the Jedi killer in with Gen Pop?!?!”😂😂😂

[@Paul_LaSalle]

Hey Thor, I’m on the same wavelength with your wife. She seems to be a bit more positive on all things Star Wars I like her take and her thought process and her attitude towards the series seems like she’s really giving it a chance. After seeing so many overwhelmingly harsh critiques, it’s nice to hear somebody have a positive take, because I enjoyed what I saw so far.

[@sailornaboo5725]

Awe thanks!

[@cloudmaster182]

George Lucas compared the Jedi to US Marshalls. The Samurai were the main police force in feudal Japan. Knights enforced laws passed down by feudal lords. I think the police comparison is minimal, but also not entirely out of place. The Jedi were never supposed to be perfect. I just wish this show would demonstrate the transition from the Jedi of old into becoming this rather than starting them out here. But this ks basically the end of the High Republic period. Ig it makes sense for lore and timelines. But doesnt rly help the show too much

[@rosidaze8681]

So far I’m kinda liking it. I know a lot of folk seem pretty mixed, but it feels very much so George Lucas Star Wars, for better or for worse. I know some people don't like the dialogue, and yeah it’s not great (a lot better than the stilted and staring dialogue in Ahsoka though I’ll give it that) it’s reminiscent of the prequels. The action scenes feel really good, seeing Force Kung-Fu is sick Very interested in who the master is, and what exactly happened on Brendok that causes Mae, Osha and all of the jedi involved so much trauma. What was so bad that Torbin killed himself over it?

[@randall5411]

I can’t wait for the masked sith character to be one of their moms. That’s my big guess for the season. They’ll drop an “I am your mother” line.

[@MedalionDS9]

Still not watching the show, but if y'all like it... that's cool... I would probably say to savor these moments while you can because I hear it goes downhill pretty faster after this

[@achaudhari101]

Sounds like you didn’t want to be wrong.

[@Cheattoe]

Look we can all have creative differences and all…. But you named a character Osha….. Please make her more interesting than the government agency

[@cosette289]

I am thinking more right now that Manny Jacinto/Qimir is the Apprentice, but we will be led to believe he is the master. I am pretty sure he is the masked Sith from the end of Ep1 but he is in reality the apprentice to the true Sith of the time. Just like Mae has her task of killing Jedi without a weapon, I think likewise he has been assigned a task to kill Jedi without fighting them, and he has manipulated this entire situation with Mae/ Osha to kill Jedi without himself being directly involved. We will eventually get the big trailer fight from the forest so obviously he reveals himself at some point, but even if he slaughters every Jedi there his being discovered at all would be considered a failure by his master. I see a scenario where he gets this huge moment where he slaughters all the Jedi and we are like 'wow this dude is for real' only for his Master to come in after and dominate him in turn, showing us that as strong as we think we know the Sith are, they are actually even stronger. In the end I think Mae/Osha are just tools in a grander scheme that don't realize how truly unimportant they are while Mae at least believes she is part of something bigger.

[@ImagineMaker0]

I like it so far, Mae and Sol are the only profound characters, all the others are basically archetype, which can be a good think, but some writing choices are pretty strange (Osha reaching the dead Jedi first). Hoping it's getting better

[@zigurdur92]

Hey Thor What is our standard is it New Hope, Empire strikes back, Clone Wars, Andor level of goodness = A Return of the Jedi, R1, Revenge of Sith, Mandalorian S1 + S2, Rebels = B Phantom Menace, Revenge of Sith, Last Jedi, Force Awakens, Solo, Mandalorian S3= C Ahskoka, Book of Boba Fett; Attack of The Clones, Rise of the Skywalker = D Do all new shows / movies need to A or is it ok for shows / movies to be B& C

[@fredlusyk6741]

《The Acolyte: Season Two~ Dumb & Dumber??》 🎶The Force Police They live inside of my head (live inside of my head)🎶 🎶The Force Police They come to me in my bed (come to me in my bed)🎶 🎶The Force Police They're coming to arrest me, ohh nooo!!!🎶 《Napoleon Dynamite 2: Vote For Yoda!!!》 👽 🖖 🤖

[@sarah42e]

I don't think the show was THAT bad, but all youtube channels are trashing it since talking negatively about it gives them more views, following this logic its impossible for a SW movie/show to be good.

[@sailornaboo5725]

I believe that we are being fair to the show here on this channel. I think the show isn't bad and want to see where it goes. The fact that I want to see more is boding well so far.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

"Its impossible for a SW movie/ show to be good" So are you implying that the fans are to blame for this? 90% of the Disney SW media has been terrible. The writing is lacking to just awful, the characters aren’t interesting and Disney always tries to shove whatever social message they want to down everyone’s throats. It’s not about people being negative just for views. It’s because people are genuinely tired of Disney and their failed attempts to make good SW stories. The Acolyte trailer was bombed to cinders for a reason. Also… Andor is a thing and it was pretty good.

[@sarah42e]

@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 "So are you implying that the fans are to blame for this?" No, but if you refuse to understand what i meant there is nothing more i can say to you.

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

@@sarah42e What did I refuse to understand?

[@sarah42e]

@@ArcticWolf00Alpha0 Then i ask you, did you understand what i meant to say ?

[@MechaTrekAD]

The whole prison ship thing made no sense to me. What good guys - the Jedi or the High Republic - are hiring a bunch of Mad Max Cyborgs on a dirty transport to bring a possible Jedi killer to justice? Did I mention they're the High Republic. High. Seemed like the High Republic looked up Low Life Prison Transportation in the galactic yellow pages. Plus, how did that one guy deactivate the droids? He flicked his fingers on either side of his forehead and then zap. Is he a Force User? Wouldn't a show like this point that out or address it at least? If not was he a cyborg or using some device? Did I just miss something obvious? It was wrong in so many ways it just threw me off.

[@wilhud]

Really Liked: Master Indara's skills and sacrifice, Qimir's subtle shiftiness, Sol's view of the world, Kelnacca on the rampage, the aliens and droids Liked: Sol's fight sequences, Jecki questioning her master and her dislike of Yord, the scene setting of the environments, the overall storyline and the in episode titles Disliked: Mae & Osha because the actress does okay with both but doesn't fully encompass either, Jedi Suicide, too little Carrie Anne Moss, Stupidity of the Jedi Really Disliked: dialogue in many scenes felt uninspired, the voiceover at the end of the first episode, the general predicability so far

[@john2001plus]

My first problem with The Acolyte is that the Disney+ streaming appeared low-resolution. The scenes looked blurry. So I found a different way to watch the program. My second problem with The Acolyte is that the first two episodes don't feel that original. George Lucas's Star Wars always felt unique, different, and alien. The show takes us to several worlds that weren't that distinct from one another. The story and the characters haven't wowed me yet. I'm interested, but they feel routine. The first few episodes of The Mandalorian felt much more unique and alien. How is The Acolyte better than Kenobi?

[@TrueKoalaKnight]

Wow. I didn't catch that bit of terrible writing. We have to keep this quite. Hey, look!! It's the Jedi Killer!! That was really stupid.

[@randyclark6010]

There won’t be any fans after episode 3. Apparently we’re going to reinvent what the force is. And not in a good way.

[@anarionelendili8961]

The fire-extinguisher trick: You can pack a lot of gas under higher pressure or something. Granted, it makes the droid's body into a borderline pressure bomb and heavy as hell, but you can do it... The other question is, how is that fire happening in space?

[@-AtomsPhere-]

Hey Thor, at some point should we stop seeing so many new alien species in Star Wars? This is something I’ve been thinking about. It feels like every new movie and tv show makes this effort to design all new alien species. I get that it’s a massive galaxy and there should be variety, but I also don’t think any of the new species have been particularly memorable. I think it’s really when we see Rhodians, Twilek, Gungans, Wookies, etc (basically aliens that were from the Lucas years) that it really starts to feel like the Star Wars universe. Should they stop making new alien species and just start developing characters in the species we’re already most familiar with? I’d love to hear your thoughts.

[@Mr_Mcgee_]

This episode was absolutely hilarious! I can’t wait for Thorsday night chat!

[@cahe6161]

This show made wonder if the only good writers Lucasfilm/Disney has are only allowed to work on Andor exculisvely

[@MildandLazyGuy]

Old Master Suicifodeus. Mystery what happened to him...

[@Manterok]

Osha ending up being the bad is too complex for these writers lmao Also, I hate it. I fuckin hate it. It is bad. There's nothing good about it.

[@nichlaschristensson1055]

I like Sol and Jecki best Sol is really a good character and Jecki I think is a interesting padawan. Otherwise I don't really care so much. Like the Wookie haven't learned his name yet.

[@Darthraion]

I love this take because 90% of people watching this are saying the same thing. This is so stupid. This is what happens when people are incompetent at writing a story or putting logic into a story. Same thing happened in Rings of Power cut from one scene suddenly they're in another part of the world without explanation like they walked around a corner.

[@intuitivealchemist]

How the hell did the Jedi / authorities instantly bring the prisoners to the Jedi Temple the scene after the crash, while not going "hmm, maybe we should check the crash for survivors" and having to have a whole separate mission for the crash?

[@markkipanga1933]

After watching the Acolyte myself. It seems supa boring and low budget. I don't know how anyone could find this show good .

[@MandalorSkyrd]

I feel like Yord is a good enough jedi, neither great nor bad, but the show wants us to think he's the dumbest jedi ever

[@therevanchist8508]

Basically, your opinion is that every Jedi should be a god-man of virtue? We literally see the Jedi being arrogant dummies in the PT

[@zachschmitt3654]

Really? My brother and another SW KZbinr think she’s better at playing Osha over Mae

[@zacharyclark3693]

I have family members who’ve not paid attention to the online chatter and controversy about the Acolyte, and have no idea who the director and actors are, and their reaction to watching the first two episodes is anywhere from “it’s decent” to “it’s uninteresting.” I haven’t watched them yet, as I’ve been on vacation, so I’ll have to see what I think.

[@DuncanColeman]

Hey thor love your videos, first time commeting. These first two episodes were hands down the worse star wars ever. Trying to give this show a chance. But it was painful 😢

[@sophieamandaleitontoomey9343]

To be nice to the show for a second, I actually really like Sol. He has that compassionate and patient temperament that a Jedi is supposed to have down to a T. He feels like he could really fit into the world and I remain still so impressed Lee Jung Jae as an actor.

[@toegrit]

There's a lot to say about the first two episodes, so far I think "dumb" is a good summary. It's not Kenobi bad I guess?

[@wolvewick4414]

i dont agree that makes sense so far. if its a iniciation to kill a jedi without a weapon, then Mae complete iniciation after kill master Indara. the other 3 is only Mae revenge, not Sith i think. if its "to kill a dream" like make jedi look bad in people eyes, or to show what jedi did wrong. Mae have kill 2 jedis and didnt let no clues or anything to show what this jedis did that was so horrible, to make people, inside the show, to start losing trust on jedis. i think the writers are doings things for doing things, like thor said if not that unwatchble then is ok nowday for us star wars fans.

[@table697]

I’m enjoying it and am intrigued, so far…

[@ghiggs8389]

The fake beard. It dominated my attention. It was worse than Kenobi's in episode 2. I understand the need for fake beards. But at that budget at least make it look good.

[@wesley8616]

The odd thing is so many Jedi have survived far worse than Andara and a MASTER is killed by a dinky little knife. What level of medical care is there during this time period? The writing has so many holes.

[@ryankwon8785]

Can you name some of the Jedi. I’m curious.

[@wesley8616]

@@ryankwon8785 Anakin is the big one, Obi wan and Rey just to name a few.

[@ryankwon8785]

@@wesley8616 To be fair, I don’t think all Jedi masters across history were beasts like Anakin and Obi-Wan. I mean Jedi Master Adi Gallia was easily killed by Savage Oppress.

[@wesley8616]

@@ryankwon8785 lol true. I'm enjoying the show so far. It's nice to see content outside of the trilogies.

[@sethzorzi]

yord - yet another Disney + male character they made a big dummy, while they make a female padawan, which is not his, and tell him what to do, multiple times. (at least she is competent)

[@StarlingInSpace]

The fact the Jedi didn’t arrest qimir after he gave them recorded evidence of his involvement and had information on the dark side master is just plain stupid. So many conveniences and no logic

[@maxwell29op3]

Jedi started the fire to get the girls from their parents

[@edyz0r]

yep, lame as fuck plot, smh

[@ArcticWolf00Alpha0]

6:50 Oh come on… We KNOW why she’s being rude to Yord…and we KNOW why they have her one up him. I’ll give you a hint. Strong Independent Woman > Male Character.

[@wolvewick4414]

i feel the same on master Yord and padawan Jecki dont think their acting is very good or fluid, looks very fake and stiff so far, hope theres a improvement on their part next episodes.

[@skylor8541]

I enjoyed it even if it isn't without its faults. I wasn't sold on the twins thing until up to the moment they actually saw one another face to face, thought there could be some dissociative personality disorder thing going on or events happening out of order but they quashed that prett quick. Interested to see where they go with it, it seems like Mae is out for revenge against the Jedi she blames for her sister's death except her sister... isn't dead. So then what is she fighting them for? Obviously Osha missed her shot on purpose at the end, and I am still not 100% sold on her being innocent and think she may know more than she is letting on or even is involved somehow. Sucks that Indara went out so quickly but Mae killed her the only way she could by threatening others around her and distracting her enough to deal a killing blow. She has been shown to be completely outmatched in all of her fights so far so l do wonder how things will shake out for her moving forward. Love the apocathary guy, and he definitely has more to him than he is letting on. He acts like a drunk and an incompetent, and yet he overpowers Mae almost immediately when she attacks him. Definitely something more going on there, not to mention him quoting the Sith Code and Mae seeming annoyed by it and possibly not understanding its importance. Sol is great, has a real aura to him that commands respect but you can tell he carries a lot of guilt and pain as well. Obviously something happened on that night Mae/Osha lost their family that no one is talking about which heavily affected all of them. Also realizing now that when Indara said "you.." in there fight it was be she recognized it was Mae, and not Osha like we were meant to believe. I like Sol's padawan quite a bit and she seems to still be stuck in that phase between being a kid and being a Jedi, she feels more emotive and outgoing than a Jedi of the time is meant to be. The other overly-confident Jedi is gonna get humbled HARD at some point, calling it now, possibly/probably fatally SO. The meditating Jedi was weird. I get something obviously happened on that night where Mae/Osha lost everything but i guess he had just been floating there for a decade and Mae shows up, cant touch him, then comes back with poison and says hey drink this and he is just like okay cool guess I'll die now. Also idk maybe it is just me but it was weird seeing an overweight Jedi in that temple, just seems to go against how they carry themselves. Anyways this was a good conversation with Thor and Naboo and cant wait for next week’s discussion!

[@roadhouse2476]

I was 100% sure I was going to hate this show, and yes it does have its problems but so far it's better than Boba, kenobi, andor and the last season of Mando

[@newt2942]

With Trinity, she was not on the press tour, which is always a, DEAD, giveaway.

[@worthyvix7654]

“YODA’s on SABBATICAL” this video is HILARIOUS

[@jasonmcewen436]

Given the apparent parallels between the Jedi and law enforcement of the real world, what are the chances that we hear "defund the Jedi"? 😂😂😂

[@22infection]

Look when the show was written and who it was written by and all the promo material/interviews and you'll get a idea on how this show will pan out. Plus how woke disney and Leslie headland is.

[@liberTvalance]

Fans trying to make disney SW make sense... when are you going to learn that youre putting more thought into this than anyone at lucas?

[@roskelld]

With the potential twists that this mystery is trying to do it’s really showing how out of her depth the writer is. The show feels like a first draft script.

[@jordan1savage]

If May is actually the good twin all I want to say is that “Simpsons did it!”

[@aurorauplinks]

I appreciate how theres no white guys in this and if they do show up they take poison to get out quickly. less chance to make them do awful things to besmirch males. I feel sad for the multicultural actors, Yord? Yord..deserves better. That said the show does look good. but i feel they could have done so much more to actually... world build the characters up. violence in a show is fun, however... the opening could have featured ... build up who the characters are in the opening and then skip to the future. flashbacks are kinda frustrating.

[@aurorauplinks]

oh well either way its sort of a interesting show etc

[@jessecalliham6974]

Hey Thor, Hey Naboo do you two make freash pickles?

[@Loki_Yogi]

I really don't get all of the praise that was hailed over Dafne Keen's character Jecki in all the promotional interviews and ehat not. She was the most obnoxiously bland character of them all.

[@qtindavis433]

in character terms sol > indara >maes boyfriend >x23> yords padwan>mae > yord > ohsa>

[@jabberdouche]

Over all, I enjoyed both episodes. One part that really kind of bothered me though was when Vorg followed Ex Jedi chick, she was with the floating Jedi for like 5 minutes and gave him poison and everything. So was Zorg just sitting there behind the wall peeking at them and watching her poison this Jedi Master!?!? Like, why on Earth wouldn't he step in and stop it!?

[@toddblankenship7164]

you gots that scene wrong. he wasnt watching teh kiler but did follow the good sister.

[@jabberdouche]

@@toddblankenship7164 Right ... the ex jedi chick. Sister is an ex jedi

[@johnweems4586]

I got the impression that Jecki has crush on Yord.

[@Ann-xt4qi]

Killing off the most talented and famous actress in the first 10 minutes is peak Disney

[@toddblankenship7164]

or shes a sith

[@EagleLeader1]

Probably to save money. I doubt she's lowered her Matrix star level price and Disney hasn't exactly been doing well financially to justify her minutes on a streaming show. We may get another short flashback but they're tighter with their wallets than before. Reminds me of the complaints about the poor special effects in the Obi Wan series. They hired 2 movie actors, one of which is still popular (Ewan McGregor). Probably not enough left in the budget after them. Just my guess.

[@g.t.werber4476]

Guys, you need to stop watching these Disney shows

[@randall5411]

I think Yord and sol are the best characters so far.

[@cklambo]

The torbin death had so many holes.

[@TriggerJim88]

Yord is overzealous in his desire to prove himself a good Jedi Knight, being as by the book as possible. Jeckie's smart, she also enters the back of the shop when they go to question the poisoner, which I liked - showing rather than telling. But they also try to make her... cool? or charismatic? But she's too young so those lines fall flat and hurt the character. Sol is cool because he handles Vernestra with humility, is reassuring with Yord, listens to Jeckie's smart idea, accepts his own mistake when reunited with Osha and can perceive the larger threat when investigating Mae. A true Jedi Master and I hope they don't assassinate his character. The worst offences this series has done so far is to give the Jedi more of a political agenda. They serve the Republic and even then, there is often much debate and consideration about how much they should intervene. The other thing was having a Jedi unalive himself, particularly after being in meditation for years?! wtf was that!?!? Completely ridiculous.

[@oXRaptorzXo]

Sol is the best I agree. Jeckie is also awesome though. The show doesn’t try to make her cool. She wants to be like that, like her master. She’s trying to convey that same presence as him. Also I didn’t think anything was wrong with Torbins deaths. Your severely simplifying the scenario

[@TriggerJim88]

@@oXRaptorzXo So Jeckie's supposed to miss the mark when she tells Yord to put his clothes on? We're laughing at her, not with her? A Jedi who's been meditating for a decade is doing that as penance. His mind isn't switched off during that time, he's dealing with his inner turmoil and this show makes it seem like he's completely shut down. Jedi don't kill themselves, it is that simple. And unaliving oneself being acceptable is not something that Disney should be pushing. I was simplifying it because I didn't think i needed to explain in detail how fundamentally wrong it is both for Jedi and in Star Wars.

[@JohnSmith-pm3ew]

​@PaletteWIngs The only reason why Mae would know of a weakness from a random Jedi like that is if she knows what he and those other Jedi she's trying to kill did. They severely fucked up or went against the code and killed/murdered Mae's parents and tried to kill Mae. Think about it: force sensitive twins? So much potential, but if they are already 8 by the time you discover them, it's really too late to train them. But they are still powerful, and without training they might end up being threats. So.... however they reasoned it, the Jedi wanted them separated. Hence the attempted killing/assassination. So they could control the one twin better by having them think their only family is the Jedi. Except doing this is wildly against the Jedi code. That isn't the only reason why someone would go into a meditative state for 10 years, but it does explain how someone could feel guilty enough to off themselves even after a decade.

[@TriggerJim88]

@@JohnSmith-pm3ew If you think unaliving oneself is acceptable for a Jedi, acceptable in the Star Wars universe and is an acceptable message for Disney to be pushing then you're as deluded as they are.

[@JohnSmith-pm3ew]

@@TriggerJim88 That's both a non-answer and also not what I said. What do you think I said? I ask because there's nothing else to say if a speaker can't communicate with a listener.

[@zeropyrex6260]

I think the twist will be the sith killing everyone (including Mae) then takes osha as his apprentice

[@fallenjedi9446]

It's time we Boycott Star wars.

[@drmaxwellandminecddp1116]

✝️Fellowship invite

[@paulgibbons887]

Is it just me or does Yord look like a Yorkie?

[@Politebanana1]

Nothing to discuss here. The show is woke cringy gay garbage.

[@discobroccoli198]

Cry

[@discobroccoli198]

I already like the characters, mainly Sol, Osha, Jecki, Qimir, and Yord.

[@N8TheGreatG]

😂 🤣 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

[@discobroccoli198]

@@N8TheGreatG Weirdo

[@zachschmitt3654]

I liked Jecky alot

[@Cheattoe]

Hey Thor Osha started the fire sounds like a meme now 😂

[@gator7082]

More proof that people will watch anything as long as the Star Wars label is slapped on it.

[@butcherpete2286]

It's not that bad. Hell it's better than Kenobi.

[@Hlbkomer]

@@butcherpete2286that says nothing

[@butcherpete2286]

@@Hlbkomer your original comment says nothing. What about the show makes it so terrible to watch? And don't you dare start in with "the show runners are woke the actors said something stupid in interviews" or anything that ISNT what's being shown to you in the series itself. Because that is not a criticism of the art, it's a criticism of the artist.

[@Hlbkomer]

@@butcherpete2286 So you think Disney is doing a great job with Star Wars? Look, the shows are bad. If you enjoy them, that’s good for you. But other people have higher standards and expect more.

[@butcherpete2286]

@@Hlbkomer "others have higher standards" no. They have impossible standards. They've complained and moaned about EVERY SINGLE piece of Star wars media since Empire. All of it. Everything. Every time. And I don't think Disney is doing a "good" job. I didn't say that. But I did say that you can't complain about the plot/writing/acting of a series you're actively not watching and only basing your opinion off of the sociopolitical views of it's creators. Find a real criticism. And don't tell me how others have "higher standards" that's a hasty generalization based on the fact you're drawing from a limited and incredibly biased opinion.

[@Lumber91]

The “SS” 💀

[@magnusmotor1364]

Objectively, from the sample we had, this series will score very high in the Bechtel test. This means it will focus on relationships between female characters (like Barbie or Killing Eve) and this leads to... the Keen & Stenberg characters coupling!??! Charlie Barnett is the "Ken" of this tv series: he will become Obi Wan "Ken"-obi. :D

[@jn-xw3cq]

I agree with Sol being the best character to me. I feel like the writing for both characters and dialogue is quite spotty. Episode 1 was alright, but I especially wasn't a fan of the writing in episode 2. Some lines were redundant (like Sol telling the fellow Jedi that Osha was a jedi when he gives her a stun gun when they all already knew that). The bar scene dialogue was quite badly written (especially for Mae's lines for the first half of scene) and the scene was longer than it needed to be. And the dealer almost giving Mae the poison before putting a cap on it was stupid. It was just a "ooh, eerie but looks cool" moment that really meant nothing and added 5 seconds of screen time for nothing. You'd think he took the poison back to put a cap on it and then shake it for it to be ready, but no. It was just to put a cap on it. I just feel that a good chunk of the writing didn't get as much revision from screenwriter editors as it should have. Redundancies or scenes or dialogue that doesn't add to the story should have been spotted in pre-production and not make the final output.

[@Rocco1332]

Will Venestra have a tie to Mea's master? That's the vibes I get...though it's probably just how she comes across. Pip droid is the Sonic Droid

[@65mustang978]

Hey Thor I’ve got a question about the force. Back in the day you were born with or without the force…until Sabine force pushes Ezra onto Thrawn’s ship after a few weeks training from padawan learner Ahsoka. Now Osha has totally lost her ability to use the force in just a few years. Ahsoka still acted like a Jedi after leaving and used her abilities everyday and was still powerful enough to hold her own battling Darth Vader. Assuming Osha was born with the force, Academy trained and continued to used her force abilities (even limited use hiding her ability from others) how did she lose the ability to move something as small as Pip?

[@yeetskeet7234]

It's just GP. NOBODY CALLS IT "gen-pop"😂😂😂

[@EpsilonThirteen]

[@lordcarnorjax8599]

"We've lowered our standards, if it doesn't suck, it's good." Disney Star Wars in a nutshell.

[@HeviNova]

The two best examples of how to act like Jedi for me is Qui Gon and Luke in RotJ. Both are stoic, wise and are listening to the force all the time being aware.

[@istari0]

I like Sol as well; he's the one character I have really enjoyed so far. Of course, if they actually made episodes of a decent length, we might know more about the other characters.

[@imyjustino]

Episode 3 Predictions: Mae and her sith master will go to the planet where the Jedi master Wookiee is based on, sol and osha will follow in pursuit, flash back scenes of Mae and osha as children on their home world Brendok being raised by their witch coven that view the force as literal female entity, Something will happen between the 4 Jedi stationed stationed at Brendok causing the witches to possess the Jedi Torbin to do something jeopardizing the jedis reasoning for being there which will lead to a fight between torbin and the wookie, reasons for torbins scars on episode two.

[@Loki_Yogi]

The coolest yet most frustrating scene was Master Torbin's meditation force field/suicidal moment. Cool being the idea of the impenetrable force field while meditating and frustrating being the idiotic choice to have Torbin drink poison.