Lets learn DBFZ! - All about Safe Jumps

[@Rooflemonger]

By request, a video covering safe jumps as a concept in and of itself! I have spoken about safejumps in one way or another in various other videos but never a video dedicated to it directly! If you already know your safejumps well... Maybe use the timestamps to skip ahead to some character specific examples and maybe you might learn something new!

[@halfstrike721]

rooflemonger can we see more vids of you playing? Need to see that Broly!!!!

[@Rooflemonger]

@@halfstrike721 Yeah i wanna get another compilation together at some point but I need to be sharp! Been not hardcore on dbfz lately due to the doa stuff.

[@raymondtablnte5466]

Ummm next time could you leave your buttons on during your safe jumps so I can understand inputs a bit better

[@tamashiieater1889]

Lmao I was teaching my son safe jumps yesterday.

[@elliotterodriguez]

Awww ☺😁 that's awesome dude

[@samsonfgc3472]

adult gohan actually gets a kind of insane easy 4ish way meaty mixup off of level 3 in the corner and a safejump. he has the standard safejump setup. because he has the fast fall, he can fast fall at the last second and hit them with a meaty low. fastfall into DR is now a thing that looks almost identical to the meaty low. fastfall into DP is now a thing that beats sparking and looks almost identical to the meaty low. the third one is nice because if you show the meaty low, they might be more inclined to reflect immediately because now they're dealing with a true high/low 50/50. No amount of mashing light will ever beat you. (thinking more across the length of a match than in one game). The last one is risky and only really works when they try to spark or mash, but that's not the most uncommon thing.

[@phdbot4483]

I like doing safejumps! They can punish wakeup lv3s while maintaining pressure! I like that I'm seeing character-specific Safejumps in this vid as well! ^^

[@seranthonybeatty4959]

I can thank you so much for your in depth tutorials! They are so amazing and easy to understand

[@curioustrout]

I just got back into FighterZ last week and your guides along with streamers like DotoDoya and jmcrofts have really helped me grow. I hit SSJ3 last night and I'm still climbing! I settled on Nappa/Base Vegeta/Bardock. I'm holding out hope to replace Bardock with Raditz!

[@user-iv2df5ed4y]

how do you do it? i instant air dash by holding diagonal jump and R2 and then i spam heavy after that, the heavy never connects

[@Polopollo75]

Thank you! I had a hard time to practice them!!! And I was trying with Goku blue lol, that explains!!!

[@juicy2376]

I can finally be good at fighterz thanks I’ve been in frieza clan for so long thanks

[@BlueGamerCast]

Never understood this until now, thanks 🙏

[@Zeldaboy97]

Other characters can do safe jumps after other moves, like 2H with a j.H SKD or doing something after vanish. I've got 3 videos on my account showing off some setups as Jiren and Frieza. If you'd like to check out the vids, feel free to do so. Hopefully they can help as well.

[@semja]

I was literally just practicing these in training mode

[@aka_dust]

So, it’s basically a short hop, IAD, *H or M*, cancel into block?

[@Rooflemonger]

thats about one option out of about 10+ options depending on the character yes. Its the most common option.

[@mgs1398]

Still waiting on that Hit guide. *sigh*

[@Rooflemonger]

😰

[@legendofLINK445]

Spam light attack and Lv.1 super. Done.

[@josevega12093]

Hit is a counter based character just like he is in the anime he is annoying with his “S” . He can do 3 overheads . He can come from either side to hit you . He can be really good when you do resets cause it is hard to tell where he will hit from

[@jamalvsworld7294]

ReadySetRekt so true

[@chriswise4954]

I was about to ask for this too! thanks

[@chriswise4954]

but there is one question I have, do characters have different walk or dash speeds and different jump heights?

[@Rooflemonger]

@@chriswise4954 everyone jumps the same height. I believe everyone walks and runs the same speed but I guess I never though of it? This isn't really a game about keeping your feet on the ground to omuch

[@chriswise4954]

@@Rooflemonger yeah I was just in the lab and the question just popped in my head but I couldnt find anything on it

[@MyTardisGoWhoosh]

Thank you so much for what you do

[@stayt2dg]

safe jumps can still be reflected as well right?

[@DarkThomy]

...Whaaaat?? So the secret for yamcha's spirit ball wasn't on the timing but rather the fact that you can CHOOSE where it comes from??

[@Rooflemonger]

yessir you have full control over the angles

[@paccacio2935]

Hey man could make a combo tutorial video using the assists,you know explaining how to call em out without switching characters then keep going with the combo im gerring hurt with that,a lot

[@BlueFlash94]

Thanks so much Rooflemonger, I’ve personally been waiting for a vid like this. Question for ya: are there any potential safejumps for Android 16 as I know that you’re a 16 main too?

[@Rooflemonger]

16 level 3 got hit with a hammer but he can still instant air dash M as a safe jump after a lvl 3

[@BlueFlash94]

rooflemonger Nice, thank you

[@Vherstinae]

If there's a DBFZ season 3 or a sequel game, I fully expect to see a new version of Cooler. Thus far, aside from 21, Cooler is the only non-canon character on the cast. Pre-super Broly is also non-canon, but he's a non-canon version of a now canon character. I'm thinking that Cooler being added to the DBFZ roster is heralding a future movie with Frieza's brother.

[@TheShayminGamer]

Timing is strict, but you actually can hold up forward on Goku blue’s level 3! You can hit them with jump ki blast. Obviously you don’t hit them overhead, but it is safe.

[@Rooflemonger]

yeah but there's no pressure/combo after so its not very viable.

[@TheShayminGamer]

@@Rooflemonger I thought you got a combo after on hit but I could be wrong. Great vid roofle

[@Johten]

I know this is legit a year ago, but question. Is it more based on the timing of the actually heavy input? Cause I always try to do a safe jump but then get 2h'd in the face. I also didnt realize you could just hold up-foward to get a safe jump. I kept IADing which considering I'm bad at IAD I think i keep screwing up the heavy timing.

[@Rooflemonger]

Nope the timing of a safe jump is all when you start the jump. Some heavys that are slower to start but more active(like coolers) you hit the button earlier but thats about it.

[@Johten]

@@Rooflemonger ok, thanks dude. My friend keeps trash talking me cause I never use my oki lol

[@Kira-pc4mq]

how's this for safe jump tech do it properly and get hit forgetting to hold back and for broly, short combo into light throw, dash, land, iad H. ANYWHERE on screen and they literally don't get to play if done properly

[@davidstubbs2361]

So IAD overheard or empty jump low is the go to after a HK in the corner right? Can the same be done for midscreen?

[@fourbladex]

Yeah pretty much... or use a dragon rush, but that isn't a safe jump variation. At mid screen you can sometimes get a cross up too (depending on character and type of KD).

[@Rooflemonger]

well a character with an iad safe jump wont have a regular jump mix. But yeah for IAD characters after HKD its basically just iad into move or empty jump low/throw, basic mixes.

[@ArtFr0g0]

The safest of jumps.

[@hyperviper9888]

You make my Broly better. I like you

[@marcoramirez2858]

Can you please do a character specific tips and tricks/ combo guide for Captain Ginyu? I am trying to learn how to use him as a pressure/ point character.

[@Rooflemonger]

Ginyu is one of the 4 characters I have never covered yet. I do want to get around to everyone i can in time but there is no ginyu guide in the near future I am sorry to say

[@raymondtablnte5466]

I needed this!!!

[@gogozeppeli9267]

Jump and press triangle or circle right?

[@ishdelacruz8356]

Is the timing for sliding knockdowns fixed as well? Minus the delay get up? Also can you delay up tech sliding knockdowns? I hear you can and some say you can't.

[@aaronbenno1849]

yes, you can delay all the grounded tech options.

[@ThatOneMinority]

So this is faster than getting hit by the 2H if the opponent tried it??

[@semja]

How about from like a sliding knockdown off of a launcher? Just wait till you see wake up frames and IAD?

[@Rooflemonger]

Some people do indeed have safejump setups from a sliding knockdown but its a lot less universal than off a level 3

[@dokee2770]

Nice vid dude

[@MonkeyWithSkillz]

Can you make a video about in which situations are you able to reflect or relfecting on wake up

[@Rooflemonger]

You are always allowed to reflect on wakeup, nothing can stop you from doing it!

[@reflectiveperspect]

Was wondering this myself, thanks roof!

[@KingDragon66]

Trying to build a team with jiren. What you guys think. Vegito,jiren,black?

[@MohammedAli-tx7om]

that team does kinda work, jiren is a good mid, you can go bardock jiren vegeta for a solid neutral / mixups / lockdown / conversions

[@user-fz9ln6os6j]

What a cancerous team.

[@Ender41948]

Does the Yamcha safejump work with a different Spirit Ball combo, as long as that spirit ball combo can lead into a level 3 in the corner and isn't just mashing someone's lights out?

[@Rooflemonger]

well that specific setup will work with a level 3 in the corner too. You need the exact combo to get the right frame advantage to get that setup

[@Ender41948]

@@Rooflemonger So it has to be that specific pattern, not just a generic "Level 1 to Level 3 in the corner, only sans Level 3"?

[@Rooflemonger]

@@Ender41948 yeah has to be a specific pattern. The higher up they are when you do the final hit it takes them loner to fall, but yamcha recovers at the exact same rate regardless of where the enemy is. Therefore higher up = more yamcha advantage.

[@davidstubbs2361]

Also what is the timing of the IAD after a hk? Is it immediately when you’re in control again or do you wait until the opponent is gettig up?

[@Rooflemonger]

just immediate

[@davidstubbs2361]

ok so hold 9 then move to 6 as soon as I move up right? @Moogle Sennin

[@hyunnimitsu]

can I random ask how to punish broly's reversal lvl 3?

[@Rooflemonger]

block and homing dash

[@tejgumaste5011]

I think u shud have talked about thr gokus OS...ps it works on Kid buu as well

[@felipeherrera2922]

great video ;) black can get a safe jump everywhere thanks to his light teleport right?, after a sliding knockdown

[@Rooflemonger]

It is a safejump against reversals but it can put you in a bad spot depending if they up teched on wakeup

[@felipeherrera2922]

@@Rooflemonger thank you for the answer 😁

[@josevega12093]

So rooflemonger how would feel if Grand Priest Goku came to Dbfz ? Do you think people would complain about “another” Goku ? His outfit is slim looks amazing and gives a new feel to Goku

[@illustriousinc8608]

No more Goku...

[@ninjafaceify]

Yeah, no more Goku please. I get he's the main character but like, half the cast is Goku in some way. We don't need more Goku, we have plenty thank you.

[@RandoBox]

Is Frieza's/Videl's wake up lvl 3 safe jumpable?

[@Rooflemonger]

Startup is pretty slow on those but I guess I don't know for sure offhand just kinda never comes up

[@kitneko]

I didn't understand what safe jump is...

[@Rooflemonger]

well, hopefully now you do!

[@kitneko]

@@Rooflemonger I continue not understanding :(

[@Rooflemonger]

@@kitneko well as you can tell in the video, its a jump that lets you safely attack without fear of reprisal from a reversal. It is safe, to jump

[@KingOfGameworld]

Safe jumps also lose to Sparking and Trunks lvl3. Learned that last one the hard way. :/

[@shadowclonemaster]

You stream correct?

[@Rooflemonger]

wed thurs and fridays yes twitch name same as channel name

[@videosyarego]

please talk about how to hit super dashes correctly

[@MrconsistentFGC]

Special plus heavy

[@WesHartgrove]

just hit R2 lol

[@MrconsistentFGC]

@@WesHartgrove he might be on stick

[@fourbladex]

Only real way to deal with super dashing is to use 2H at the right time.

[@HealthyFather]

I'm so trash at this game lol. Roof has to teach me daily lol

[@Rooflemonger]

As long as you are learning then its forward progress friend!

[@Donzaloon]

If you been playing this game for over a year and haven't been safe jumping.. you need to put the game down lol.

[@PiinkBoye]

Tfw when you SJFFL in DBFZ

[@micha-elhorus5799]

I would prefer fighterz without safe jump

[@ninjafaceify]

Don't mash. Learn how to block/reflect. Congratulations, safe jump is no longer a problem for you

[@Greggers1516]

i swaer to god i get pushed in the corner and i dont press any buttons, i hold back, you know, to fucking block, and it doesnt block and he gets me even though i was blocking, i cant play this game because im gettting cheated

[@plazmamasta193]

You might be hitting a button by mistake even if you hold assist change you are able to get hit out of it also just up tech or delay wake up

[@LightningCayo]

I’ve been so busy with Smash Ultimate, I kinda forgot about FighterZ entirely

[@Rooflemonger]

😰

[@seranthonybeatty4959]

First baby