Lets REALLY TEST the GoPro Hero 10 Black

[@GoPro]

Stoked you're enjoying your HERO10 Black! Thanks for the review, we cant wait to see more footy

[@VinOnline]

Great tech, good job GoPro!

[@PL-fh8cz]

In the first shot where you have the 9 and the 10 side by side, I was able to pick the 10 and it wasn't a 50:50 guess. I thought the Hero 10 had better peripheral image quality.

[@Krageesh]

Yeah totally, it's way sharper/clearer. Contrast is better too. Saw it immediately.

[@MTBGarage]

I know Ryan is a big fan of 24fps, but I came across this on Reddit, which seems to be inline with my own feeling that I could never tell the difference between 24/30 in the motion blur department: "Just to add to this, from the Hero 8 all the cameras use a single clock rate sensor. This is why the lowest shutter speed is 1/30 as the sensor is running at 30hz. To get 24fps the camera is just performing a frame rate pull down on the recorded file so there is no advantage to the lower frame rate. The older cameras could be set to PAL (25fps) and get a lower shutter speed."

[@theaveragerider2084]

What are you using as a cover at 8:20 ?

[@4xmatt]

For the dual camera mount, if you know anyone with a 3d printer you could probably get something going there. Congrats on the new channel!

[@4xmatt]

I’d offer to send you one but am just learning my printer, so I’m a few weeks out from making anything quality!

[@runthejoules]

Thanks! And good call about 3D printing the mount.

[@4xmatt]

@@runthejoules There's a few that look pretty good on thingiverse - once I finish building my cabinet I will try one out on my older gopros just for fun.

[@ThatMountainMoment]

I agree with the 9 being a very frustrating camera with glitches, sd card corruption, and sound. When it's working well it produces incredible results for sure and it's impressive to see that in such a small durable package but I swear at this one more than all the previous models I've owned. Having to buy recovery software due to corrupted files or shots that glitched is not an expense I planned. As a channel that makes multi day adventures, it was a neccessary purchase to connect a specific timeline for the viewers. Hoping they fixed this on the 10 with the new GP2 but I'm hesitant to spend again. Great review been following Loam Ranger since its inception. Diggin' the new one.

[@TNW84]

Would like to get some setting recommendations for a Phoenix, AZ rider. Lots of full sun and cloudless skies! Thanks

[@danp2509]

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[@therealridedmc]

I did not see a big enough improvement to warrant replacing my 9 with a 10. But I do think GoPro is moving in the right direction. Maybe I’ll take the same approach as I have with my iPhone - upgrade it every other year. 😂

[@gerrygadget]

Did the firmware update(s) change anything? I heard there was a big update planned for November 2021? Battery life or hypersmooth changed at all in update?

[@megavirus1706]

Cool video. Looking forward to the long-term review and also curious to see what competitors hash out. I’m still rolling on a hero session 5 and need to upgrade ASAP (like yesterday)

[@natesoutdooradventures8075]

What size is the video? It looks a little wider than 16:9.

[@TheLoamRanger]

Good eye! Its 18:9, or 2:1. It’s made to fit most smartphone screens perfectly. 👌

[@natesoutdooradventures8075]

@@TheLoamRanger Thanks, man!

[@Coolcmsc]

Yey! Love this new channel 😊 Tell us a little more about the upcoming lens mod in the 10 please 👌

[@barryhodgins7999]

Worried about battery life. Trekking for five months in Nepal often far from electricity. How do we optimize battery life??

[@runthejoules]

I'd recommend the Enduro batteries from GoPro in this case. Bring as many as you can, or bring a decent sized battery bank to plug into. Film in the lowest resolution and frame rate you're comfortable with. Higher frame rates really chew through battery life, in my experience. Have a great trip!

[@smithgov]

Great video and looking forward to the new channel. Can you tell me how I can achieve the color grading that is making your videos so much nicer looking? Thank you, Robert

[@damonhuffman20]

Will the hero 8 battery work in the 10?

[@SunSnowGravity]

Good luck with your new channel! Love the old one.

[@sanduskyohiobro]

Can u Facebook live with both cameras?

[@gerrygadget]

What does "Color Graded" mean?

[@dar-kos]

I'm interested in this knowing how long i can record while using no battery but 5000 mah powerbank with 128 gb memory card. Will camera overheats and shut down after like 20 minutes while riding bike with camera mounted on chesty. I recording bike marathon races that last over 90 minutes.

[@danp2509]

Ryan, are you going to be using the natural colour mode on the hero 10 or are you going to continue colour correcting footage as before?

[@runthejoules]

I’ll definitely be using “flat” still. Maximum dynamic range takes priority over convenience for me.

[@HrvojeMihajlic]

so basically, the camera does everything the nine was advertised for, but a year later and for more money? cool.

[@meepcheep314]

more resolution features and 4k 120fps on the hero 10 so you are getting more stuff

[@thedero3]

Would you recommend the same settings from your GoPro 9 setup video on Loam Ranger for the Hero10 as well?

[@runthejoules]

Pretty much, ya. I can’t think of any differences off the top of my head.

[@thedero3]

@@runthejoules thanks very much 🙏🏻!

[@doubletrackdodger2512]

Considering the 8 is 300$ brand new, unless your a professional, idk if it’s worth it

[@deisen123]

I've had the 8 for 2 years now. Minus the annoyingly slow touch interface, its outstanding.

[@povteer]

is the hero 10 lens cover compatible with the 9?..thinking to buy the hero 10 replacement lens cover and put in on my 9 for that sweet hydrophobic lens

[@KevGoesRiding]

its backwards compatible

[@runthejoules]

Yep, as Kevin said pretty much everything can be swapped back and forth between the 10 and the 9. That hydrophobic lens is definitely worth upgrading to on the 9!

[@danp2509]

@@runthejoules could u guys test some different hydrophobic sprays and such made for goggles or motorcycle visors on the 9 and see how they compare as a temporary solution

[@JakeMarcin]

Love the GP10 but finding the sharpening a bit strange, The medium setting seems to sharp but the low seems not sharp enough. How have you guys found it? What have you been using?

[@KevGoesRiding]

i agree with this btw. I dont like post processing my files but i have to choice because leaving sharpening in medium just looks too digital still, so i am forced to shoot in low sharpening and add a little sharpening later on

[@runthejoules]

Agreed. Not sure why GoPro does this to such a heavy extent. It’s to the point where there’s so much sharpening that it’s starting to break down the image.

[@midlifeshredder]

But would you spend the money to upgrade from the 9 to the 10? I'm not convinced until I see what resolutions and frame rates are offered when they adapt the lens mod in November. Since it's the same size sensor I would bet the increase, if any, will not be substantial from the current 2.7k on the 9. Thoughts?

[@runthejoules]

If your 9 is solid and you won’t use the new features, may as well stick with the one you’ve got. From what I know, GoPro will not be adding a higher resolution option for the Max Lens, but things could always change.

[@midlifeshredder]

@@runthejoules Would definitely like to try the new color profile, love the new lens coating (but I typically use the max lens mod anyway) and would love the new higher rez settings but not sure it’s worth another $400… I’ll keep pondering. Good work guys!

[@veers0r]

Nice test. I'm surprised that you had trouble keeping footage from the two cameras apart. The local tone mapping/local contrast enhancement on the 10 seems to be quite clearly visible to me. Whether it makes things better or not is subjective of course. What would have been interesting to see is how it performs at higher sensitivities than ISO 1600. At least from my perspective a bit more noise is often the lesser evil than the motion blur due to vibrations at slower shutter speeds (which the digital stabilization can't deal with). So I tend to push it farther there.

[@runthejoules]

It’s interesting about the tone mapping part. Looking at clips from both cameras, side by side using scopes in Davinci Resolve shows essentially identical contrast/luminance. I spent a while staring at those scopes like a madman trying to find a situation where the two cameras would differ, but it never happened. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@veers0r]

@@runthejoules Since it's local tone mapping the effects on the scope probably aren't going to be that big, it's more or less like trying to see sharpening in the scopes (but with a bigger radius). Could also be that it was less obvious in your footage because GoPro might have coupled it to the sharpening setting which was on low but that's pure speculation. Didn't get my hands on one so far so I'm just going on the full res videos people have shared so far. :)

[@michaellee348]

Smashed that 1k in a month goal!

[@brendan1]

Try a USWE backpack with their GoPro chest mount. They're really great. I ride with one.

[@runthejoules]

I’ve heard those work well! I typically use the Camelbak sternum protector/action cam chesty and it’s rock solid, but I wanted to make the whole experience as terrible as possible for these two cameras 😂

[@voges14]

Hey guys. I’m considering getting my first go pro soon to mainly film my mountain biking. I have no intention on creating “pro” videos at all, just personal use. I ride the same trails that you do and was wondering what camera you would suggest. Also I believe in a previous video you said that a chest mount is better than a helmet mount. Would the chest mount that go pro sells do the job, or is there one that provides more stability that doesn’t cost a fortune? Thanks and keep up the great content on both channels!

[@4KMTBRider]

You can't go wrong with either the Hero 8,9 or 10 but the 9/10 have a larger battery over the 8. the 8 is more compact and less wait which is ideal for mounting to a helmet. The Gopro chesty mount (padded version) is what most mtb riders use including myself and it is very good but not perfect. If you have a waterproof jacket on for example, the chest mount can slide around and cause the Gopro to have a hard time stabilising the video. Hope that's some use to you!

[@surfingmoose]

Appears the 10 is $100+ more than the 9 was last year. Do you think that price hike is justified? I have the 9 but am putting money aside to purchase the 10 in the next few months. Really like the content of your new channel.

[@FenrirFerocity]

I Just think of the 8,9,10 as the White,Silver, and Black and when every new gopro comes out the New One becomes the {Black} and the previous takes the next space Dont know why Gopro Stoped making White & Silver Levels but i guess with the annual Cameras now it makes sense the way ive been thinking about it Even if i just upgraded to a 10 from a Hero 4 Black edition.

[@goncalooliveira-mtb2474]

What is the last music?

[@Ruffest]

Decent video guys. Probably deserve more subs 🤘

[@runthejoules]

Thanks! Much appreciated.

[@simonwyndham]

The HERO10 produces more detail. You'll need to look at your original footage, but you should notice the H10 producing more detail in grass and gravel detail while in motion than the H9. Another notable thing is that if you put the cameras in a 16:9 mode (not inc Superview) such as 5.3K on the H10 and 5K on the H9, with both set to Hypersmooth Boost, you'll see that the H10 has a wider FOV.

[@runthejoules]

As far as detail while in motion, given both cameras have the same lens and sensor, the only differentiating factor would be shutter speed. If the 10 leans towards faster shutter speeds than the 9, then you’d see more sharp detail while in motion, but I wouldn’t say that’s a bonus for the 10. Looking at the footage on my calibrated, 5k monitor, I don’t see that difference either way. I’ll have to check out that field of view difference you mentioned! The wide the crop, the better, as long as the stabilization is just as good, so I’m into that! Cheers - Ryan

[@simonwyndham]

@@runthejoules Thanks for the reply! The detail difference is definitely there. If you shot some grass for example, detail is reproduced much better on the H10, and I think it's down to the compression system. Files off the 10 seem more efficient, and I think it's doing a better job of dealing with the detail. I noticed that on a side by side test the H9 files were often larger despite not containing quite as much detail. I've noticed areas of image on mine (viewed on a 32" 4K reference grading monitor) where the H9 smooths out and 'mushes' the detail, while the H10 shows fine detail, and it's definitely not due to shutter speed. Regarding the FOV, remember when testing it that the extra FOV is only in 16:9 modes (not Superview since that is at heart a stretched 4:3 mode). It's due to the camera using a wider sensor area than the H9, so it doesn't need to crop in as much for the HyperSmooth margin as the 10. I have an example of the extra FOV I my own review, but I won't hijack your channel to link to that! On that note, great new channel BTW!

[@shilohevans9223]

What’s the name of that trail? Looked pretty sick

[@runthejoules]

It’s a fun one! It’s called Reclaimer (in Canmore Alberta)

[@mtbville]

Quality vids continues 🤩🤟🔥

[@vigneshsrao]

Couple of questions or may be in your next review of 10 you can cover these… 1. Have you tried continuous recording for over 20m while riding with higher FPS (may be even a timewrap)? Coz I’m hearing it auto shuts down due to overheating 2. I have seen your colour grading videos of the past, does it still apply if you use the Natural colour option of the 10?

[@daveao686]

If you riding then you will have the airflow going over the camera to cool it.

[@vigneshsrao]

@@daveao686 agreed… but someone needs to test it b4 concluding … coz apparently it’s worse than 9 … I take a lot of timewraps with my 8 … was thinking to upgrade but hearing the overheating issue and then Loam Ranger mentioning the high batt consumption when recording 4K 120..is it worth upgrading? 🤔

[@TheDangals]

If you already have a Hero 8 is it worth upgrading to the 10? Love the stuff as detail as usual.

[@runthejoules]

I love the 8! I’d say it’s only worth upgrading if you need/want the additional frame rates or cold-weather battery life. Otherwise, that 8 is kinda the sweet spot for overall value.

[@RyandeMilliano]

I appreciate the summary of this new GoPro, thank you! I’m super curious what resolutions will be available with the Max lens. I currently run a MAX and Hero 8. Ive had no reason to update from the 8 since I run at 2.7k to preserve battery and have no need for 5.3k. Keep up the good work, looking forward to new reviews.

[@bluray561]

Great vid. The Hero10 is such a pleasure to use and in all modes is the camera that rules them all. Must have.👍

[@silasridesbikes8222]

THE HERO 10 IS SICK!!!!

[@boisebroncoadventures]

Hero 9.5

[@su1raM]

Hero 9 pro 😄

[@whistlerbikeparkpov4830]

Second first comment

[@kashima3626]

Haha ignoring the fact that it's overheating after 14 minutes and get useless... you guys are not reliable

[@runthejoules]

Not ignoring it. It's just not actually relevant to normal use, IMO. If you film in your house at 5.3K for long periods of time without moving the camera at all to create any kind of airflow, I guess you would care about the one or two people reporting the overheating issue... but I don't know of one single person who would do that, so. **shrugging shoulders emoji** - Ryan