Lets Talk eScooter/ eBike/ PEV Regulations and Bans... | Nami Klima Night Ride POV [4K]

[@eyebahnrides]

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[@JB360_NYC]

Great talking point here Ivan! Not going to lie, with the popularity of the Surron in California (especially when it first came out) it gave kids the ability to purchase 45+ mph bikes and run them through the streets without any type of license. Over the past years, more and more California counties have been seizing Surrons + Talarias as the number of ebike accidents by minors has become more apparent resulting in e-bike laws and regulations over there. NJ will be an interesting one as requiring insurance and registration will hurt A LOT of small business not only in the food delivery space but also bike shops that sell and inventory PEVs which is why there will be definite push back on this. The one in Florida was honestly a freak accident ( the woman that died was a key figure in that community) which is why the ban in that town was so sudden. RIP to her family but I don't agree banning something just because of something like that. It doesn't solve anything. It's like if someone was killed by lawnmower, are we banning lawnmowers as well? Where do we draw the line for bans and money-hungry get rich schemes by States? The public (news outlets mainly) is too lazy to educate or even have a conversation with community members to come up with a solution but would rather throw the "ebike" name in for more clicks. All in all, cities will enforce shit like this to draw money from commuters any way they can since they look at us like low-hanging fruit.

[@burn1gotbeats]

i feel the same way agreed👆🏽

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this ride and thanks for chiming in JB! I agree with what you wrote there and thanks for clarifying some of the things that are going on . Honestly, this all seems like a heavy handed response made to satisfy the media, the loud minority of PEV haters, and the industries that are lobbying to get rid of PEVs while turning it into a cash grab for the local governments that are looking for new source of cashflow...

[@LessLethalOptions-82323]

I agree with everything you say, except when it comes to licensing, registration and insurance. Why are Pev riders entitled to ride what amounts to E- mopeds or E-motorcycles (no matter the form( EUC, ESK8, E-Bike, E-Scooter) that go 30 -70+ mph unregulated, just because they are electric? What the PEV community should be doing is taking the lead in how PEVs are regulated, to insure low prices and fees, new speed categories, the broadening of the Moped definition, etc.. If we don't take the lead, it will be done by bearcats who are clueless about the whole Pev scene. I was into Pevs from 2000 - 2005 no push pack or regulations. Then thousands of "Gas powered "Gopeds" and clones hit the streets, bike paths, and sidewalks of Philadelphia. There were a very visible number of reckless riders. The pedestrians, cyclist pushed back and got "all" scooters, e-powered included, banned. Within a few weeks of Draconian enforcement Pevs, along with gas powered scooters disappeared for the next two decades. Sound familiar? Better when define our regulation, than others.

[@BoozySZN]

I thought it was bad over here in the UK. But what you guys do on them streets around cars, pretending to hit the cars and swerve last second....a lot of reckless ride outs over in the states, I know as I watch people like One Way Corey, John Hicks, and many more don't respect road users and always cause issues. Now, that ruins it for people. What don't wanna brake laws and act like idiots. Its not all roses and creme you know, a lot of careles riders It's going to get so many restrictions that they'll make it illegal to sell high powered scooters, that would suck as that's a easy thing to regulate, don't follow and you lose your trading licenes etc

[@JB360_NYC]

@@LessLethalOptions-82323 yea it's crazy how things have come full circle. Some of our community leaders have already begun education fire department officials on the safety and handling of lithium ion batteries. I'm hoping the same can be done with educating the public on PEV safety and operation rather than regulate something they don't understand.

[@marktheshark99]

My city has extended its scooter program, unchanged for an additional 3 years, was the reason i purchased mine. Love your channel. Hope your state pulls its self together.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel Mark! Congrats on having that scooter program extended, thats huge. NY & NYC is so deep in the pockets of the lobbyists that they managed to kill off congestion pricing and certain infrastructure repairs/ changes that could really help alleviate some issues we have in the city. So I'm not too optimistic with what's going on here lol

[@JohnnyPrimeCC]

I can't wait to dig into all of your comments here. I was just saying to a friend that the city is sending us mixed messages on ebikes. On the one hand, they're making task forces to shut down businesses and cracking down on batteries in buildings... but on the other hand, they're also building out more greenways and creating public charging spaces. It's a confusing balancing act that's going on right now.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for the ride! The comments section has been really wild on this video but there have been some really interesting points shared, so enjoy going through them! I know what you mean with NYC's confusing approach. With certain things, they're so heavy handed and don't care about how their actions will harm legitimate businesses. On the other hand, they're quite receptive to working with the delivery unions. I'm curious to see if what they're doing is a permanent solution that will eventually roll out or if its just a "political stunt pilot program" like that stupid robot in TSQ lol.

[@taisan7928]

Keep up the good work buddy. You’re doing a great service to the PEV community not only thru product reviews but also trying to educate us regarding recent issues that surrounds us. I bet It will be a whole lot of changes in the PEV world, regulations and so forth. At least im ahead of the game registering my high powered bikes and its coming SOON whether we like it or not. 👍

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride and listening along! I know its a small platform but I still want to be able to use this channel to promote how amazing PEV's are when we take care of them correctly and ride respectfully. I believe it's possible to be responsible and still enjoy this hobby. There's definitely going to be some major changes coming this year and I support the changes that make sense. On the other hand, some of the heavy handed responses designed to "make an example" of the community I don't support. I'm glad you did that because you'll be able to continue riding regardless of what happens! I have to start looking into those types of things soon.

[@taisan7928]

@@eyebahnridesAgree. I think i have to follow your suit getting an M1 license

[@eyebahnrides]

@@taisan7928 you should! Honestly, it was super easy to do so. Just find an MSF Basic Rider course in your area and do the weekend course. I still have to actually go to the DMV to finalize my M License. It's just been hard to find time to do it with work taking up so much of my time!

[@ErockRodz]

Glad to see you doing better. Was worried about you when I didn’t see your regularly scheduled program. 😅 Great topic to discuss, it’s been on my mind and I agree with you on everything you are saying. Things are drastically going to change soon. Not sure how it’s going to impact everything, but all I can say is I am somewhat worried and I guess only time will tell at this point. Time to start thinking of branching out into new ventures like you mentioned. Good luck to you!

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks homie! I'm definitely feeling better but still trying to get to 100%. Now I'm trying to play catch up with the channel to make sure we're back on track because we all know that the Algorithm isn't going to be happy that I took 2 weeks off over the course of 2 months lol. I really wanted to make a different video for today, but I thought it was important to share what was going on and my thoughts on it. All of us NYC Enthusiasts are going to get hammered if the city decides to drop the hammer on us, so good luck to us all. Maybe we can do eMTB content on those trails in NJ. Though I've never actually done any MTBing on dirt in my life, my thoughts are " how hard can it be"😭. Pivoting the channel is going to suck but I hope folks are willing to follow regardless of what we do🙏🏼

[@ssoffshore5111]

Hope you're back to 100% now! While I'm completely against regulations, with these scooters getting so fast and powerful, I'm personally not against requiring a MC license to operate these things above say 25 mph. Sadly we all know lots of future regulations will be coming for these things in the future, too many yahoos being completely irresponsible on them and it will kill it for everyone... It will be tragic too since these things make so much sense and solve so many problems! BTW, I laid up the PEV's for the winter, but took the board out a few times last week during the warm-up, it felt so good to get out on it again!

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us again and welcome back! Yea it's unfortunate that a few idiots being reckless and all the idiots that think they're MacGyver are ruining it for the majority of people that just want to get around in a fun cost effective way. Like you said, it really makes sense in so many different situations. Ahhh, I don't blame you for putting them away during the winter lol. I totally understand that feeling of getting back on the board on a nice warm day. It's freaking incredible. I can't wait for a bit warmer weather so I can start to practice again

[@ShawnGuffey]

I'm so jealous of all your city's dedicated bicycle paths. In Denver, we have to pick and choose our route and meander between streets and paths and sidewalks and it's quite difficult to navigate.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this more serious video as well! The infrastructure is getting better but it also looks much better than it normally is because of the cold and it’s past rush hour. During rush hour is when your really see how taxed and overflowing it is. Also, with the warmer weather here, it’ll be pushed further past its limit. With all that, it still sounds better than attempting to navigate high speed roads with no bike infrastructure while searching for a path through! 😂

[@thetribalthief6330]

while fire and safety concerns are legit, you gotta expect there's a lot of politics and lobbying involve against e-scooters and e-bikes. More people using PEVs = cuts into the margin of automakers, public transportation and subway system.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel! I'm 10000000% on board with everything you just brought up there. All this exposure from the media, all the pressure from the politicians, and all the pressure from the landlords is just too well timed with the introduction of congestion fees and potential increases in public transport fares. I know I sound like that guy from the "aliens meme", but the timing is just too convenient...

[@applechili2848]

I’ll say, be careful what you wish for & be proactive WRT the policies that may or may not change as a result. As soon as the city finds a way to regulate & tax e-bike commerce, they will. Don’t make yourself an easy target for the ramifications.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome back to the comments section, I appreciate you chiming in for this one. Yea, that's the thing when it comes to these. One day you see NYC trying to shut everything down, the next minute they're building charging stations for ebikes lol. Honestly, I do hope they find a way to regulate some of those online sales since alot of the more dangerous products can still be purchased online even if they shut down the chop shops. Unfortunately, there are a lot of companies selling products with poorly constructed batteries to unsuspecting people and those have been the culprits behind most of the fires. However, like you said, I do have to be careful with that wish because what will the govt try to control next if they manage to regulate those online sales. At what point does it become an infringement on our rights? That's a rabbit hole that I'm ill equipped to talk about lol

[@cueist1963]

I like the placement of your rearview mirrors. I recently purchased a Solar FF Lite. I bought a mirror for the left side off amazon but am not happy with it. What mirrors do you have? and to place them on the bottom do you put the left on the right, and right on left? Thanks. A link to the mirrors would be great thank you.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! First congrats on your new scooter. Second, I'm glad my mirrors and its placement could help you with your build! I had to go through a ton of mirrors before finding these ones. I actually saw it on another guys scooter at a group ride and picked them up from amazon that night. They're generic aluminum mirrors but they have great clarity, they're compact, and the design works well for my dashboard. There isn't a left or a right so you can just adjust them as you see fit. Here is the link Klima Mirrors: amzn.to/3GoxZwN Btw, if you ever see anything on my builds and you want to pick it up for yourself. I'll usually have a link to the items in the descriptions of all my videos. The bigger affiliate links are always pinned as a comment. I hope this helps!

[@Darryl.Harris]

Good stuff. I live in the Midwest and so far Wisconsin especially Madison and Milwaukee have been PEV super friendly. I hope more states will follow. Thx for the video.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Darryl, glad you enjoyed it. That's nice bit of good news there. I'm glad to see that there are cities and states that are still PEV friendly and not jumping on the hate bandwagon. It's such a breathe of fresh air like the news of ebike rebates in Connecticut! Maybe when I start making content full time for this channel, my wife and I can consider raising a family out there!

[@theweldonator]

Yo Ivan my guy... I'm not going anywhere. It's all about the ride and chat. On another note, I'm glad you're feeling better. Excellent chat and talking points and I hope it doesn't get crazy for you. Ride That Tasty Wave

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks Weldon, your support is always appreciated homie! Definitely feeling better so doing my best to get the release schedule back on track, I think we might be a bit off the next couple of weeks but I'm sure we'll be back to the usual Friday release eventually lol. Though the Wednesday release did so well, I may not go back to Fridays! Yea man. It's getting crazy everywhere. The messaged is so mixed that we don't really know how to respond. One minute they're trying to shut you down the next minute the city is introducing charging stations and swappable battery stations for delivery people.... But it is what it is. Like one of the commenters said "its the growing pains of a new industry that experienced growth faster than the regulations could keep up"

[@HalAltman]

YOOOOO love you eyebahn. It's slow at work right now so I like to kick some time watching new pov vid

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching Hal! Even though it’s a little late, I’m glad I was able to get this one out. I used to do the same thing at work when I had more down time. It was nice to watch ridevlogs to take my mind off the monotony and insanity of work 😂

[@LessLethalOptions-82323]

Everything you said about bearcats making villains out of PEVs as distraction from their short comings in other areas is true. So is the magnification of Pevs problems versus all other vehicles, especially cars and trucks. But, what PEVs riders are blind to, is their sense of entitlement to ride vehicles capable of speeds of many gas powered scooters, anywhere they wish to ride, and in any manner they wish to ride, without proof of competency, knowledge of traffic laws, or any means to identify their vehicles when they are in accidents or breaking the traffic laws. If the PEVs industry had kept PEVs as Pevs, and not greedily chased the lust for power and speed by enthusiast, Pevs would be fulfilling their purpose everywhere, without very much push back. On a "true" Pev, no one would have to wear anything more than bike/skateboard helmet. The fact that many Pevs are unlicensed MCs is clearly shown by the riders wearing MC protective gear. Some one has to get a MC license, register and insure a gas powered scooter with a top speed of 40 mph, while some one riding a so called Pev can be on a vehicle that goes 40 to 70+ mph, with no requirements other than to have the money to buy it. How long did people think this was going to fly?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video amd welcome to the channel! I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts. I agree with all the points that you made. I'll be the first to admit, as an enthusiast, that I too fell into the trap of chasing power and the next coolest release. I've always told the story that I went from a Xiaomi to a Nami Burn E in a span of 8 weeks because I kept wanting to go bigger and faster. I've also always said that these machines are overkill for almost all forms of riding since I stay between 15-30mph most of the time. The only time the top end speeds really came in to play is during group rides where you're talking shop with the guys. Other than that, it was mostly about bragging rights. Now that I've spent several years in the PEV community and 1 year creating content in the PEV space, I find myself going the opposite direction of the community. While there's an arms race to who can build the fastest custom PEV, I'm really enjoying Class 2-3 ebikes along side esk8 and my Nami Klima. In my video where I took the MSF course so that I can get my M endorsement for my license, the concern you expressed is almost identical to the one I expressed in that video. I knew that we were one bad accident and a few fires away from heavy regulations. It's always worried me that all you needed was money (or parents with money) to get a high performance machine. Honestly, I welcome any "license based regulations" that they have coming and I also welcome stricter regulations on batteries. I just wish that they would go about it differently. I've reached out to my representatives to introduce them to community leaders and offer my perspective for future townhall meetings so we'll see where that goes. In the event that it all goes downhill, I'm quite happy to make Specialized eMTB content and eMotorcycle conent! I just hope my channel's supporters will come along for that adventure lol.

[@truthiscensored]

Speed isn't the issue. The main reason PEV have a bad name is because of the E-Scooter and E-bike rental companies. Those only go like 15 mph yet most most of the accidents and "deletions" happen on them. Speed can be a safety feature on roads. But everywhere else speed should be about 25 mph, about the speed regular cyclists ride on a slight incline. And all traffic laws should be obeyed safely

[@AndersCaous]

Good to see you back on your feet. I live in Sweden and since 23rd of december 2023 all e scooters with a weight over 14kg (31 lbs) or faster than 20 km/h (12,4 m/h) have to have a traffic insurance. I ride a Klima and the cost for it is $ 7,64/month. I can live with that. Thank you for the great videos.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us on this ride and thanks for chiming in Anders. It feels good to be back. Even though I'm not 100% yet, I'm doing my best to try to get the channel back on track with it's release schedule! That's quite reasonable to have that cost of traffic insurance for the Klima. Personally, I wouldn't mind paying that kind of price. However, in a "Classic Broken American System" type of way, I can see them charging $50-100 a year to register it with NYC, with $50 in testing fees, and a traffic insurance of $25/ month lol

[@OhGawdHesGotAGun]

Is the insurance expensive? Does it 'bundle' with your home/renter's insurance?

[@AndersCaous]

@@OhGawdHesGotAGun As I said $7,64/month which I find reasonable and it bundles with home insurance otherwise it would be a couple more dollars. Sorry for answering so long after your question.

[@nunyabusiness3082]

​@@eyebahnrideswhy were you gone? And not permanently! I hope you have a great ☠️

[@Ghost-sz7uo]

thanks for bringing up this discussion! like with any relatively new space, there is naturally going to be some push back. the few bad apples like with any community is going to ruin it for the rest of us; whether it's buying cheap e-bikes with no name batteries, robbing people using unregistered mopeds, etc. there's no way for them to distinguish the good ones from the bad ones so this is just what we're going to have to deal with until things get straightened out. it is what it is. 🤷‍♂ we just have to be as understanding as possible until pev's become the new normal.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride and chiming in. It wasn't what I had planned but this was such an important topic that I felt the needed to get it off my chest. I agree with you. We have to approach this knowing that logic doesn't really apply anymore and we need to understand that things are no longer in our control. Just like the legitimate small businesses that might get wiped out because of the chop shops/ illegal moped shops, we're just going to be "necessary collateral damage" for what ever the city decides to do because of the few bad apples.

[@dw3370]

Nice video, nice weather and scenery for pec riding, I’m getting the Nami blast in a couple of weeks after watching your review of it, only thing I’m worried about is the thumb throttle as my current Escooter is a finger throttle, are you using the stock throttle or different one ? Thanks

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel DW! Despite the heavy topic, this ride as alot of fun. The weather and road conditions have been terrible lately so getting a ride in like this is always a blessing. Congratulations on your new scooter! The blast is in incredible so I hope you enjoy it. Just make sure to take your time getting to know it and to gear up when you're riding. Life changing injuries can happen at the speeds we travel at so anything that can help increase your chances of getting home to your loved ones is worth the investment. The thumb throttle is pretty good but I use a trigger throttle called the "polish throttle". I bought it locally from my retailer and had them install it as well. If you don't have access to FFR in Brooklyn, there's a link for it in the Official Nami FB Group. If you search for "polish throttle" in the group, you'll see the EU distributors that sell it. I love this throttle but keep in mind it can be very sensitive. However, it gives you incredible control over the scooter once you get used to it. I hope this helps!

[@fightorfright]

Fun ride, thanks for the vid! How do you like those heated gloves?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on the ride and welcome to the channel! It was definitely a fun route despite the heavy topic lol. I really like these heated gloves because it allows me to ride comfortably despite the cold. This was my second winter using them and they've kept my hands warm even on the days where it felt like it was below 0 degrees F. The only thing is, the battery doesn't last as long after a year. Also, they make doing mine motor functions like operating the signal switches and operating an esk8 remote difficult since they're thick as heck lol

[@fightorfright]

@@eyebahnrides thanks! I have been trying to find a good pair. So far I have been just using two pairs of gloves with some hot hands smashed in between them but my fingers still can get numb at times. Thank again for the fun ride!

[@eyebahnrides]

@@fightorfright you’re welcome, I was doing the same thing for years! I even tried doing the handlebar mitts with the hand warmers in them lol. Im quite happy with the gloves tho I may have to replace them in the next 2 years. Thanks for coming along on the ride!

[@brilliantart6420]

Thanks for sharing such informative content! I'm here in NJ, thinking about selling my car and diving into the world of E-scooters for the first time. Luckily, I stumbled upon your video while pondering my decision. (Reasons why I want scooter: No register, NO gas, No license, No insurance, Perfect for commuting, Cheaper than bus or train, Easy to sell, Easy to store, Fun, going to gym or grocery market ETC.) Do you think it's a bad idea to get an electric scooter in NJ at the moment? Should I wait until the laws change? I'd love to hear your thoughts. I'm thinking about buying the Vsett10+.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel Andrew! I'm glad to hear that you found this video informative! My goal was to deliver the information as concisely as I could while sharing my real time thoughts on what's going on. I do understand where all of this is coming from and I do agree that regulations need to be implemented, however, I don't agree with how they're doing it. It seems more like a political stunt made to make the loud angry mob happy than an actual solution. Honestly, I'm not sure how to respond to whether its a good or bad idea to get a scooter this year. The reason is I'd hate for you to miss out on the joy of riding scooter like the 10+ and maximizing your time & money. I'd also hate for you to purchase one only to have it banned by the end of the year. I personally believe that the bans/ regulations are mostly focused on ebikes since scooters live in a more "legally gray area". So I think we have more time on the escooter front. If I were you, I'd create a pros/ cons list and make a decision from there. If you feel that pros are enough for you to risk an investment into a PEV, do it and do it proudly. If not, I would hold off till next year. Obviously, people like me are heavily invested in this (not just because of the channel but I'm emotionally and financially invested in to my PEV's and the community). So I'm a bit more cautiously optimistic. I also don't mind paying a small registration fee so that I can continue to operate my PEVs so regulations and bans aren't as scary as they seem. Apologies if this wasn't the response you're looking for but I hope it helps

[@brilliantart6420]

@@eyebahnrides Wow, Thanks for your thoughtful response! I appreciate your guidance. I'm eager to dive into the joy of scooter riding, but I reckon it's wise to hold off for now. If I was eyeing a scooter like Max G2, I might've bought it already. But for now, getting a speedy one like Vsett 10+ seems a bit risky I think. I'll wait to see how strict the regulations in New Jersey turn out to be. (If this bill ultimately passes, the cops might start pulling over riders more often.) Thanks a bunch, Ivan:)

[@eyebahnrides]

@@brilliantart6420 anytime! Glad I could help

[@capcom4eva]

Just found this channel. Cool channel. Subscribed. I got a Ninebot max g2, I’m in NYC too.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and thanks for subscribing! Welcome to the channel and I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos. That G2 is a monster! A neighbor of mind has put 8000 miles on his riding in the city all year round and its still keeping on!

[@capcom4eva]

@@eyebahnrides definitely 👍🏽 let’s ride someday. Do you know if they allow electric scooters over the tap pan zee now? I know they didn’t allow electric skateboards a while back.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@capcom4eva yea man, if we still have group rides this upcoming season hope to see you there! I'm only going to support the ones that aren't so reckless so I won't be on too many of them this year. Honestly, I'm not sure about the Tappan zee. I just looked it up and I didn't even know there was a bike path on the new bridge, I'd love to ride that path on the Super73 one day!

[@capcom4eva]

@@eyebahnrides cool! I haven’t walked or ridden on the new tappan zee pedestrian path, but it’s something I always wanted to do on a group ride. I once did a bicycle meetup of all the nyc bridges. That was a lot of fun. I think it was 13 bridges & pedestrian paths. Small groups are fun, but when it gets too large, it gets chaotic.

[@capcom4eva]

@@eyebahnrides any maintenance needed after all those miles? Tires replaced? Thanks, brother.

[@QQ251647742]

What about those one wheel electric unicycles? Any regulations for them coming?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! Anything that's self balancing like EUCs and One Wheels have always been illegal in NYC. They will generally let you ride around as long as you're not being a menace on the road. However, if you encounter a police checkpoint where the officers are going to be jerks about it, they will stop you and fine you. I learned this the hard way when I was commuting on the V11. At that time I didn't know it was illegal. When I got stopped at a checkpoint designed to catch mopeds in the bike lane, the officer was very confrontational of the bat and gave me a ticket (which lead to points on my license) for riding an EUC. After he wrote me the ticket, I remember he said "all you people are the problem, you're not special. Take the subway like the rest of us."

[@QQ251647742]

@@eyebahnrides Omg, 😮 thank you for sharing your real life experience. I'll just take the risk and hope that I won't encounter such police jerk, because I just love riding my EUC.

[@вечная_мерзлота]

what is the reason you have your mirrors mounted at the bottom rather than sides?

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video! Since the Nami Klima's handlebars are quite wide, adding the mirrors to the ends would make them even wider. Since we generally have to squeeze through tight gaps on the road or on the bike lane, it just doesn't make sense for me to have them at the end. Having them on the bottom also keeps my line of sight cleaner and looking down isn't that bad. I hope this helps answer the question!

[@Jean-sp9gl]

I know this is off-topic, but where do you get side mirrors from?

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching! The mirrors are aluminum cnc ones from Amazon. I have link to them in the video’s description. They’re great because they have great clarity and have are low profile. My only Complaint is I wish it had that blue tint that helps reduce glare from the headlights

[@mylifepoetic]

Is any of the regulations surprising? Did anyone NOT see this coming? Does anyone think it's NOT going to get worse?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. Nope, we all saw this coming. I personally welcome regulations and standards to the industry. Dangerous PEV companies have been getting away with selling products of poor quality for insane prices for personal gain for far too long. Some of the responses are a bit too heavy handed for me and seem to be trying to push an agenda. It always seems like there's alot of issues related to PEVs but that's only because the news outlets are riding the wave for exposure. Just like the way we can't judge a whole country for the actions of a few bad apples, we can't judge a whole community for the actions of a few. I personally wish that they would approach more pressing issues we have with the same intensity. I think tackling theft, homelessness, violent crime, rampant drug use, ghost cars, dirtbike/ atv gangs, housing crisis, infrastructure, a failing healthcare system, education budget shortage, etc would be better use of my tax dollars but that's just me lol

[@sabaki16]

Hey Ivan. Glad to hear you're feeling bettet. Really take care of your health. The new rules on PEVs is a bummer. Kinda saw it coming with all the accidents and fires happening over the years. Doesn't help that there was a recent PEV fire in the Bronx. First one of the year 😢 I'm down for getting some form of licence since I love escooters. Hoping it doesn't come to that, but gotta do what is necessary to keep up your hobby. Not down with getting insurance tho, at least not in NYC 😂 . But if we're gonna go that far, then NYC needs to open up more parking lot spaces now that many apartment buildings are banning them, including mine. I have until April 1st to remove it from the premise. Probably will have to sell, then get a new one later this year once I can find parking accommodations.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride Sabaki! I'm feeling much better but still on the up and up so trying to ease into things while also trying to get the channel back on track lol. I know the algorithm is gonna punish the heck out of me for basically missing another week but it is what it is. Yea, all these guys that are blasting recklessly around the city without considering those around them and the fires are ruining things for everyone. Damnnnn.... thats crazy, I'm sorry to hear about the scooter ban in your building. Another thing that I find quite interesting with the timing of these restrictions and building bans is how well it lines up with the upcoming Congestion Fees + Potential MTA fare hikes. IMHO I just think it comes down to the city politicians and their lobbyist buddies are seeing how much they're losing to the rise of PEVs and they're taking measures to counteract it. Shenzhen, China and other places that have embraced the transition to electric are perfect example that it's possible to make changes as long as infrastructure and policies support it. Alongside that, Amsterdam and Tokyo have proven that people will pay for secure underground parking for bikes and alternative transport. I agree with you. If they're going to ask for all this money, we better damn see our money go into better infrastructure for both commuting and parking....

[@sabaki16]

@@eyebahnrides Yeah I agree with the timing of the PEV restrictions, and how certain groups would be opposed of a cost-efficent alternative transportation. When it comes down to a business level, those who feel they have the most to lose will capitalize on any chance to drive away the competition. In this case, it's probably MTA and other public transportation groups that look at PEVs as hurting their business. Been going around my neighborhood and have found good places to park my PEVs outside that seem safe. But indoor parking lots are the way to go. Can imagine the cost is more cheaper overseas, but in big cities like NYC it will be expensive if it becomes standard practice.

[@ridesharebiz5317]

Battery and ebike riding safety is the new norm for lawmakers. There will probably come a day all eike owners will need a license and registration to operate their bikes. Don't punish all ebike owners who obey the rules and regulations of ebike safety. Too many irresponsible owners are not following the rules to protect the health, safety, and welfare of the community they live in. Revenue will decrease from ebike and scooter companies. This will take fun out of buying an electric bike or scooter. Enjoy it while it lasts, folks.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching this video and welcome back to the comments section! I appreciate you chiming in. I agree with everything you wrote there. It's an easy target for them and unfortunately the irresponsible ones are only making it easier for them. We keep riding them while we can and we keep fighting to improve the public perception of PEVs while were at it.

[@CarelessKingdom]

Great video - I think you're right about if they shut it down there's going to be a much larger amateur market out there fixing scooters. Good stuff bro! 🌻

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the comments section! I'm glad you liked it and I appreciate you chiming in. I think the amateur "black market" is going to be much more dangerous and will lead to more fires than what we have now so I hope they find a way to revise their approach! At the end of the day, I want safer homes and roads but they gotta go about it the right way!

[@CarelessKingdom]

@@eyebahnrides Same, and overall I think the "black market", and amateurs working on their scooters themselves is going to do nothing but cause more house fires and a potential ban on all of our toys...

[@Sean74218]

Im planning to get the Nami Klima Max around May but I see the new models no longer have the iconic tail light, which is a bummer. Hopefully they roll out a new design on the original tail light. Also great vid as always

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this ride Sean, I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I'm coming out with an "updated 750 mile review" of the Klima Max some time in March. One of the topics I plan to talk about is balancing the aesthetics of the old tail light design vs. the pain of constantly trying to prevent the brake sensors from locking out. I'm at this point where I may get rid of the old tail light all together just so that I can have the peace of mind that my scooter wont freeze on me when riding!

[@FargoTownie]

No need to apologize for being sick. We're all human and get sick.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thank you for your support, I truly appreciate it! I'm pretty hard on myself and I end up taking things a bit too seriously sometimes. I always end up feeling bad for not being able to hit my self imposed deadlines for KZbin lol.

[@neilvarel]

Do you use single lens mode or both on the insta x3?

[@eyebahnrides]

In this video I'm using the 360 mode. That's why the clarity isn't as high as my other videos. I was also experimenting with a few other settings on this one as well causing it to be a bit shakier than usual

[@Petty-Polite1019]

Question? Does this apply to the enclosed mobility scooters as well?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! Honestly, that's a great question. I'm not quite sure if those are legal to operate in NYC since I've never seen an enclosed mobility scooter. Based on my quick google search, these may fall under automotive guidelines instead of PEV regulations. I know the huge companies like Amazon are developing something like this but we haven't seen them around yet!

[@Petty-Polite1019]

@eyebahnrides I asked because I am disabled. It's legal to own an enclosed mobility scooter as long as it has handlebars instead of the steering wheel. Thank you for taking the time to answer my question, and please stay safe 🤘🏿

[@eyebahnrides]

@@Petty-Polite1019 you're very welcome, my apologies it took me so long to answer. I'm just getting back from a trip with the family so I'm finally catching up to the comments! Also, thanks for sharing that bit of info! It's good to know that EMS are legal. I believe anything that involves electric mobility devices for those with disabilities will remain untouched. I don't think NYC want's to deal with the consequences and lawsuits caused by accidentally crossing the line while trying to regulate EMS batteries.

[@Petty-Polite1019]

@eyebahnrides please don't apologize to me, for your time being busy. I appreciate that you answered or even communicated back to me. I value time and for you to take your time to even read my question. From my heart, thank you from me, Denise. Time is something you can never get back and you took that time to even answer me. I appreciate your channel because it makes me feel like I am mobile. Thank you for making me feel alive for a few minutes you post from my heart.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Most people at my Amazon warehouse.,. 3,500 employees give ot take, have never seen or have any idea what e bikes are all about.. no PEV people here where i am south of Detroit. So bicycles, cars and motorcycles have been around for well over 100 years. Safety rules and regulations are implemented and in place solidly. Billion's of dollars in making up safe motoring for everyone.. E vihicles are all new to most people.. These are times of trial and error. We will just have to wait and see what happens. Roll with it!

[@eyebahnrides]

absolutely correct! These are unfortunately the growing pains of a new industry that grew faster than the regulations. In a few years, we're gonna look back on this video and be like "damn, ivan was mad dramatic... it wasn't even that bad" lol.

[@floydb9100]

damn those head lights are sick. what are they ?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video Floyd! The headlights I have are the stock one sthat come on the Nami. I actually didn't have my second headlights on in this video. Those are the Gemini Titan Oled 4000!

[@reubenbridges]

I have no problem with regulating the sell and repair of batteries. As a business owner you have to make sure your business is up to code, if you’re providing service. Neglecting having to your business up to code when repairing batteries is just to make it harder. As for the accident in Florida, the woman that dead was not wearing her helmet while riding her bicycle when she collided with the person on his e-bike. So there’s a 60 day ban on e-bikes, still don’t know who was at fault for the accident. Food delivery workers have to be more careful, NYC accommodates cars and large vehicles more than bikes and PEVs. Navigating the streets while delivering food, dealing with traffic and people is a challenge. But breaking traffic laws to get the customer’s food to its destination, puts everyone at risk. Excellent video, welcome back.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for the ride and thanks for chiming in! I appreciate you clarifying whats going on in FL since I only heard about it from a fellow rider. I agree with everything you said. We ride the way that we do since the city isn't designed to accommodate bikes let alone PEVs. If they took this level of intensity and applied it to improving infrastructure and public transportation, they might actually be able to find a solution for the problem at hand. That's a lack of protected public storage, lack of alternative transportation infrastructure, and a lack of responsibility being taken by companies (manufacturer of products and the delivery companies). Like I was saying to another commenter, Shenzhen and other cities in China have proven that going electric and creating infrastructure around it can be done safely and has tremendous benefits. Amsterdam and Tokyo have shown us that protected public parking for Bikes/PEV's can be built into the city so that people have a safe place to keep their vehicles outside of their homes.

[@reubenbridges]

You’re welcome, I heard about the case in Florida on Mike Fede’s channel for e-bike news. He posts a lot video on e-bike laws and bans happening in different states.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@reubenbridges I'll check him out. I read up on it occasionally but I try to stay away from any heavy dosage of the news. It stresses me out lol. This is my escape from stress and I don't want too ruin it!

[@reubenbridges]

@@eyebahnrides Nope, not trying to add stress 🤣

[@DarkFoxV]

Are there any links to make our voices heard? O.O

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video! There were a few links floating around IG where folks were signing don't ban ebike petitions. But I think our best bet is to reach out to our local representatives. Hopefully, they're willing to listen to all their constituents instead of the loud minority of anti PEV people

[@BoozySZN]

Awesome video again bro. Did you see what happened to Andrew at freshly charged, his rion snapped!

[@cocoabiscuits]

whoa what?!!

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video Ryan, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 👀 damn, I definitely missed that. I've also been completely unplugged from KZbin while I was sick so I'm catching up now. Lemme go check it out later because that's crazy news for Rion

[@BoozySZN]

@eyebahnrides it's crazy over there at the fb group right now

[@eyebahnrides]

@@BoozySZN I could imagine.. they must be doing huge amounts of damage control since FC is a massive channel!

[@slimdunkin117]

Some states have already had an age limit..and some states needed a drivers license (only 2 states that I can think of)..none of this is new and no one cares anyway. It’s the same thing with faa registrations for the drones..forgotten about in 2 years

[@eyebahnrides]

facts... once the hype dies down and they find something else to hate and "fix", all these people will move on

[@wissker202]

I got an E scooter to save money if the regulations start costing me money I'm leaving NY. BTW I noticed you upgraded the throttle on your Nami does Fluidfreerides provide that service if not where can i purchase the throttle for my Nami Klima

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and thanks for chiming in Nigel! Facts on facts. That along with saving time on commutes is one of the biggest selling points to PEVs. I think CT might be the only state in the tristate area that isn't looking to impose any type of regulations or fees. In fact, they were doing ebike rebates last spring! I actually bought my throttle from Chuck at FFR BK back when I had a Nami Burn E. Back then, Ed had to modify the "Polish Throttle" to work with the Nami. Now I believe they're plug and play. If for some reason FFR BK doesn't have them, you can go to the official Nami FB group and search it for "Polish Throttle". You can order it from one of the retailers in Europe and they'll ship it to you. Just keep in mind the throttle is really sensitive but it gives you amazing control over the scooter once you master it!

[@eBoard3R]

*Say no to bans* 😭😭 ⚡️⚡️⚡️ eBike fires due to unreliable mods/customs is what is most likely to attract bans everywhere. Please choose modders/vendors carefully people!

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching, I appreciate you chiming in! 100% agreed. Killing a whole community is never the answer to a problem... Such a heavy handed response with no real solution just goes to show that it's all for the optics and what it means for them politically. I second choosing modders/ vendors more carefully. I'll just add also choose the best product that you can afford at that time and make sure it's from a reputable company. Avoid the "Burn Your House Down Special" that these bs companies are peddling. The extra effort could save a life!

[@nyc_dancer_j]

I'm gonna get my nami hopefully tomorrow I'm going to Brooklyn I'm excited 😁

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride! Ayeeeeeeee early congratulations! I wish I could be there to see your first ride on the Nami. Just remember, have Ed or Chuck give you the full run down on how to safely operate it and take your time getting to know the scooter. It's alot more powerful than most people expect so ride safe out there. Also, make sure you gear up (helmet/ gloves at a minimum, helmet/ gloves/ body armor is recommended). Life altering injuries can happen at the speeds we ride at so investing into things that will help you get home to your loved ones is always worth it. 🙏🏼 Other than that. I'm so excited for you! I know this was in the works for a while👊🏼

[@cocoabiscuits]

awesome! I recently got mine too few months ago. You'll love it!

[@wilc7290]

What a timely video lol. These are sad times. Just today, one of the government agencies here in the Philippines just released their initial plan to ban every electric vehicle (besides cars) from the major roads which would pretty much render PEVs useless in the Metro. Effective on April. Reason being there are a lot of delinquent "e-trike" users who lack road discipline and accidents happen pretty much every single day. It has been chaotic over the year as we already have a lot of issues between cars and motorcycles. Unfortunate that the authorities don't seem to be working with the community as well when said people used to promote the use of PEVs. All of us have been clueless as to their plans. Some are panic-selling their electric bikes even. Fires related to lithium batteries are rare over here and have not been a concern so far despite seeing a lot of battery builders who build out of scrapped batteries. Guess we'll just hope for the best. Might just have my Fiido Q1S as a display when I do ship it to NJ if things don't go as planned.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride Wil, glad you got something out of the video! Yea man, the timing is pretty crazy and I kind of wish that we didn't have to talk about topics like these lol. That's pretty insane they would ban PEVs in the the city... If there's a city that needs it more than NYC it's places like Manila. It was an absolute nightmare when we were there last. To be fair though, everyone rides/drives like crap and everyone was crashing into each other way before PEVs lol. So banning PEVs isn't going to solve anything. They need to put all that effort into finding a way to improve the actual infrastructure of the city and finding a way to limit the access of cars since the city wasn't designed to deal with that volume of vehicular traffic. That's a really interesting point you made there where there aren't as many fires. Do you think that it's just not important enough for the ratings that the news isn't covering it? Here in NYC, you would think that every building is burning down every second of the day. It's almost as if they're being incentivized to do so. I hope the Fiido will be ok too!

[@wilc7290]

@@eyebahnrides I appreciate your time reading and replying to the comments here man. The law has not been finalized yet but now it seems like multiple agencies are contradicting each other's statements which turned out to be funny. Now, one thing's for sure the small 2-wheelers will be allowed in the bike lane for major roads. The transportation system does indeed suck in Manila which led to the popularity of PEVs. Gas prices are jacked up everywhere. As to the fires, the ones that got on the news were lead acid batteries from the imported Chinese ebikes/etrikes as a result of heat/moisture here. I have not seen news in our groups about lithium batteries exploding. If there was, knowing the community, it would be viral.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@wilc7290 anytime man. The channel is still small so I can still get to all the comments atleast one time through. Though it's been tough to keep up with all the comments on this video, but I'm glad people have alot to say about the topic!

[@mustbee-bike994]

Here in Canada if you already have a driver license you don't need nothing more but if you are under 18 you need a gas scooter permit at minimum

[@eyebahnrides]

I don't mind something like this along with the age restrictions. Some of the dumbest things I've seen on the road were done by kids on these high powered "edirtbikes". You can tell they've never taken a road test and they don't really know what they're doing on the road. However, I must admit ive seen adults ( myself included) do some dumbthings on the road too lol.

[@SciD1]

If the US does it, Canada will too.

[@AftrBurNr]

Is the Nami Klima Max UL certified? I bought one in June.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! Even though the Klima Max's battery is well constructed and comprised of quality cells and has a failsafe, it is unfortunately not UL Certified. I'm hoping that Michael Sha will start to have them UL Certified going forward. If he wants to continue to do business in NYC and potentially across the US, Nami is going to have to get their products UL Certified.

[@AftrBurNr]

Yeah I bought the Max partially because of the quality cells. Thanks for the info. This is the Wild West of PEVs. I’ve seen scooters being listed online where they stated they had to sell it because their building banned them. That sucks.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@AftrBurNr unfortunately, NYC has become a wild west sht show, and that definitely sucks lol. If you own it already, I don't see how the city can do anything about it. The only problem is the landlords. Me and a group of PEV owners are constantly fighting for our right to have one in our building. I wish I had the financial capability to just buy a home so that we don't have to deal with the nonsense of landlord politics... If the hedgefunds don't buy all the homes and interest rates come down, I hope that I can be a homeowner one day lol

[@nyc_pev]

Ivan, come visit us when you’re in Kips Bay. NYCPEV on 25th btn 1st & 2nd

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I'll definitely drop by one of these days. Hopefully my work schedule will calm down in the next couple of weeks so I have time to. I appreciate the invite!

[@nicholasmorrison6572]

One thing that they could fix is require all batteries that are shipped to New York City. You are listed that would get rid of half of the trash UPP batteries. And it's just good luck dealing with random people making batteries in their apartments that have no idea what they're doing or are too cheap to do it the right way because anyone can make a battery even safer than UL standards. But you have to put in time and money to do so.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel! Great suggestion. One of the biggest loopholes that i forgot to mention in the video is people can still secure whatever uncertified PEVs they want from the internet. If they really want to make changes they need to go after these BS companies that are selling dangerous products to unsuspecting consumers as a cash grab. Even with that, you're absolutely right about trying to find all these DIY people trying to work on dangerous materials in their apartments. You can tell they didn't really think about any of this and it's just a stunt to make it seem like something is being done...

[@DerekChan-h5x]

NYC is unable to enforce basic, longstanding laws on cars. Laws like "have a license plate" or "don't run reds". There is zero chance that NYC will pass and enforce regulation on emobility. The bigger risk is landlord building bans. Those are actually enforceable.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this ride and I appreciate you chiming in on this one. I 100% agree with your point on enforcement. Honestly, I don't see them banning things because the city relies on emobility. My concern is still their blanket approach to the business and how they may force legitimate retailers and repair shops out of the city. If that happens, we all know that underground shops that are far more dangerous will replace the legitimate businesses. Then we have more fires leading to more landlord bans. To your point, those are enforceable. It's almost as if thats what they want lol.

[@DerekChan-h5x]

But what is a "legitimate" repair shop? Brakes, swapping out BMS units, fine. I don't think those guys are at risk. But I'm not sure I want people replacing dead Li-ion cells and stringing together frankenbattery packs. Sometimes, it's time to just buy a new OEM battery pack from LG. I will tell you that when I charge my own scooters, I don't charge when I'm away, I don't charge if the scooter is wet, I don't charge overnight, and I don't put scooters where they would block an exit. Fires from the things is scary.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@DerekChan-h5x By legitimate shops I mean like LastMileNYC, Voro, Fluid, NYCPEV, etc... I don't think they'll be shut down directly because they operate with in the legal limit. My concern was, if you cut a shops available product and implement expensive changes to their fire code, it might force them to move outside of NYC forcing people to do their own maintenance work or go to an underground repair shop. I don't see how a retail brick and mortar can survive something like that. I completely agree. I should probably make a best practices video in the near future. Fire's are definitely scary and I want to do my best to share what I do because all of us responsible owners will do the same things. Unfortunately, some folks are just unaware.

[@DerekChan-h5x]

@@eyebahnrides I dont think retailers and basic maintenance/repair shops are the problem. The problem are the shops that recondition Li-ion battery packs. I'm not a battery expert, but my understanding is that to do it properly, you need to disassemble the entire pack, test each cell, select all the good cells, then put in new cells and re-wire the entire pack serially with a spot welder, then reseal the whole pack. Even after all of this, when it's done "correctly", you still have a pack that contains cells of different ages, with different internal impedance, capacity, and temperature charge profiles, etc. The battery pack reconditioning servicers exist in order to serve cash-strapped deliveristas, who dont want to pay $500-1000 for a new OEM battery pack. I'm sorry, but some activities are just too dangerous to let people DIY in settings where bad workmanship could result in a catastrophic fire. I'm totally fine with just closing down battery repair places, and forcing the deliveristas and commuters to buy new OEM and UL-certified packs (maybe even subsidized ones).

[@LittleBunnyFeet]

Where I live escooter/ebike regulations are really tight. If your escooter/ebike goes over 25 km/h it's classified as a moped. And if it goes over 45 km/h, it's classified as a lightweight motorcycle. Also EU banned cruise control on escooters few years ago, and soon escooters that weigh more than 25kg need to be insured. But anyways, I'm happy to hear you're feeling better, and thanks for the great video like always!

[@christopherwilliams9815]

Love it ….. u always talk about safety first. That’s why I’m part of ur family…. I wish more KZbinrs use this platform . I get it , it’s all good when you talk about a scooter and what it does , and how fast it goes. We must emphasize how dangerous it can be and how dangerous the road are . Don’t stop!!!!! Keep preaching the message

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this one as well @LittleBunnyFeet , I'm glad you enjoyed it! Wow those are some pretty intense regulations they have there. If you didn't mention it here, I would've never known because I've seen some pretty crazy powerful scooters/ ebikes from the EU in the forums/ KZbin. I'm glad to be back up and running! Though I'm not 100%, I'm well enough to be grinding out some videos to get the channel back on track. I know the algorithm is going to crush me for basically missing 2 weeks worth of content in the last 2 months lol. It doesn't like it when you take time off or get sick hahaha. @ChristopherWilliams9815 thanks for joining us for this ride as well! Like I was telling my friend @taisan7928 , I get that my platform on KZbin is quite small. However, I still want to be able to promote how awesome this hobby is when you take care of your PEV and when your ride respectfully. I really believe that it's possible to enjoy this hobby without being an absolute menace to society.

[@bobk18]

Sure different than Canada and we are different from the USA.

[@LittleBunnyFeet]

@@eyebahnrides Yeah. Many people here like to avoid these regulations by installing speed limiters just in case a cop pulls them over. And I'm 100% fine with that as long as they don't put others in danger with the high speeds. And yeah, youtube algorithm is kinda cruel, but don't stress that too much. Always prioritize your health 💙

[@ZZTalkZZ]

I like the idea of having different speed limits with the highest being regulated, DMV and insurance with the current motor-cycle? Lets say (Class 4) 27-55mph needs all the “Road-Usage” stuff as a EV motorcycle; except if a PEV is in “Class 3” 17.5-27mph or “bike & trail”; then we should overlap max:Min with “Class 2” with a 20 Max; 12 for “Class 1” and a “Class P” for pedestrian mode whos max & min should be Binary zero or 3 (stability). 50 points if you give me a “dog run/walk/stop” modes. 😂

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this chat and welcome to the channel! I appreciate that you took the time to chime in with such a detailed response. I completely agree with this approach would love to see it implemented. Personally, I wouldn't mind being required to register and insure any of my high powered PEVs and being allowed to operate without any of that stuff on my class 2/ class 3 ebikes. 😂 would love to see a company implement those modes. That sounds like a sure fire way to land new clients!

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

Could put battery facility inside fireworks warehouse. 😂

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video and welcome back to the comments section! hahaha my suggestion would be put those fireworks in the factories where the sht products with crappy batteries and no failsafes are made. I'm sure those BS factories would change their practices real quick. Hmmmm... or maybe not since they were ready to let someone light their building on fire by selling it lol

[@lucklessleenyc]

Honestly happy I switched to gas. The whole thing was giving me to much anxiety because of the back and forth. I hope things get better for PEV though. CAKE went out of business apparently… shocker.

[@eyebahnrides]

Leeeeee, hope you've been well homie! I'm about to finalize my M-Class license when I have free time to go to the DMV. The back and forth is anxiety inducing and every time I see an idiot doing dumb things on the road, my soul dies a little. I hope it get's better but I'll be ready to pivot the content on the channel if 💩 really hits the fan. Yea Cake went under and I hear Onyx is on its last breathe.

[@BummySheep]

Not surprised about cake. The whole PEV space just feels like a cash grab. Why would I pay close to 10k for those specs and range. And it's not just cake....

[@eyebahnrides]

@@BummySheep Yea, especially when you can get a Ryvid Anthem for basically half the price of some of their models. Honestly, I may just bite the bullet and get myself an eMoto when the time comes.

[@user-ly2cp8or2w]

Damnnnn I wonder what powerful lithium is gonna do about this??😞😞 I still want to buy a battery from them for my rev1

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel A4! Luckily PL is based in Jersey City and they wont be affected by the regulations in NYC. Unless NJ decides to follow along with NYC, they'll be safe!

[@terrycotton4933]

I have been riding electric scooters for years now and in my opinion the general population doesn’t like the PEV (personal electric vehicle) community. Cyclists do not like us bike lanes and bike trails. Automobile drivers do not like us especially in a city. Lastly pedestrians, walker, runners, joggers do not like us. I am grateful that I have been able to ride unregulated for years. It’s not like we didn’t see this coming. I used to tell people you don’t like me riding my scooter don’t worry soon you’ll be able to vote against it. And they will. For years waiting in traffic has been for that other guy and I really don’t want to go back being that guy. Anyway great video. Great perspective.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Terry! I appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective with us. As a long time eScooter rider, I completely agree with your points there. Over the years, I knew that we were a few bad accidents and a few fires away from heavy regulations because we all know how heavy handed a legislative response can be especially when they're trying to calm down their supporters. I'll continue to try and be a voice or reason on this platform and I'll continue to offer my time to my representatives should they need a pro PEV voice in a townhall meeting about regulations. I still believe that it's possible to make batteries safer, make the roads safer, and satisfy both the pro/ anti PEV groups. I just hope that they're willing to listen and we as a community is willing to comply with a compromise. At the end of the day, like you, I'd hate to be sitting in traffic or I'd hate to have to use our run down MTA system again, so a smaller regulated PEV is better than a full ban!

[@Lanae8199]

Don’t accept this people. Stand up for what you believe to be right.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thank you for watching and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you chiming in on the video. Agreed. We as a community have to make our voices heard by contacting our local representatives!

[@fireoil]

i'm from Paris France and enjoy your video for not long time. Your're for now far from here with a obligatory insurance and the 25 km/h, no cruise control limit. If you go upper you considered illegal and the police can fine you 1500€ AND retrieve your scooter for DESTRUCTION , not even put again in homolagated status, simply destroyed. I own a Honda Monkey 125 in my studio and i'm waiting my Nami Klima MAX. since almost a year and my new job, i tried everything from motorcycle to subway and escooters and the last is the best. I wanted to commute with my 125 monkey witch is a more pleasant ride when everything is fine and it's homolgated. but the mayor of Paris is chasing all gas vehicules and make their life difficult. so traffic jam is immense and i found dangerous to gymkana between cars to just moving. It's so much safer to ride a Escooter with all the parts closed to active traffic, also getting out my monkey from my studio even on first flor is much longer due to weight and doors i have to go through with a 107 kg machine, still very small. EScooter is just a joy and a feel free experience. But blocked to 25 km/h ( 15,6 mPh ) is sometimes dangerous for all the part on the road with traffic, i have also a road racing bike with street configuration and i can faster than this and accelerate if i need too. a Escooter blocked in downhill also at 15,6 is simply ridiculous and dangerous. so it's either a choice to take personal safety risk or being at risk at aggraved accident and for police task force also that have targeted operation against esccoters. for now it seems they have bigger fish to fry and recently Paris ( through a biased vote of the population witch less than 10% decide to BAN all rentals escooters ) you feel that only few people and fans like you and me ride eScooters, they for the most ride well i found, the monowheel as well and skaters. They are just this retarded with no helmet, no lights than drive super fast and like they have stolen it that putting mess, for now i don't see strict application even if the police saw you going over 25 km/h, if you respect the basic law and drive safely. but with the Olympics Games, it's gonna be different and there will be some PEV operation i'm pretty sure. So i gonna be carefull until that. drive safe and hope all that regulation would keep you vlog and enjoy still your commute on your PEV's !

[@eyebahnrides]

thank you for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you taking the time to share your experience and points with such detail! It sounds like the Mayor of Paris and the Mayor of NYC have the same agenda lol. They're goal is to make your life more difficult instead of trying to improve the quality of life in the city. Congratulations on your new Klima and I hope it will improve your commuting experience compared to the Monkey. Just like all communities, most users of PEVs are normal everyday folks that just want a convenient and enjoyable way to navigate their area. It really is a very small percentage of the community that is reckless and stupid with the way they handle things. It's just unfortunate that we all have to pay for their actions. I hope that we can continue to ride PEVs in the future. However, if things change and it get banned, I'd like to own an Ryvid Electric motorcycle or build my dream electric Vintage Vespa! Good luck with the upcoming Olymipics and ride safe out there!

[@grazz7865]

Most, if not all states have some kind of regulation on ebikes and escooters. NY for example limits them to 20mph, 750 watts and under 100lbs. Is a cop going to put it on a scale or take the motor apart to find out the wattage? No. But if you ride responsibly (keep to the right as much as possible, don’t dart in and out of traffic, don’t impede traffic, obey traffic rules, wear a helmet) you should be fine. It’s the dangerous riders that are ruining it for the rest of us.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you sharing with us. You're right, there have always been base regulations that came out along with the legalization of ebikes and escooters in NYC. For all the years I've ridden, I've never had a negative encounter with law enforcement because I don't ride like an jerk. Like you said, as long as you are respectful of those around you and you follow the rules of the road, we'll be ok. That's why I get so upset when i see people doing dumb things like going the wrong way at 20mph on a citibike or riding a high powered scooter through rush hour traffic at 40mph. The only times I've been stopped and fined was for operating an EUC

[@grazz7865]

@@eyebahnrides exactly. I have even gone so far as to get off and walk the scooter past a cop that pulled over some car and had two teenagers sitting in handcuffs on the curb. Probably DWI. Same thing around pedestrians. I’ll ride at walking speed near pedestrians.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@grazz7865 thats great. I know I take alot of heat for riding like a NYer and operating within the unspoken rules of the city, however, I always talk about doing gentle overtakes and being respectful of those around you. There's a certain flow to the way things move in the city and people may not like it but that's just the way things are lol.

[@grazz7865]

@@eyebahnrides I hear you and as much as I agree I have to disagree. The more you piss people off, the more they will hate scooters and ebikes. What I’m saying is if you want people off your back you have to kiss their ass even if you don’t really mean it.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@grazz7865 those are facts right there!

[@jorgeluisvazquez1975]

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[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching Jorge!

[@koolsometimes]

Great video bud. Watched the entire thing. Very interesting topic. Of course where I live none of this is an issue so maybe I don't have a horse to enter but here is my take. So there is another thing that I like that on a regular basis gets a bad rap because of knee jerk reactions from the uninformed. So I know where you are coming from. In reality it's your politicians listening to the louder voices. The only way to combat it is to be the louder voice with facts that can back your claims. Doing it on KZbin is a start but we all in the community need to go further if we want it to last. The one thing that absolutely doesn't help are those who do the clearly illegal riding on KZbin. I will still watch bud if you go to an emotorcycle but don't sound like the fight is over. Dude it has just begun.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for the video and thanks for chiming in! You're absolutely right. At the end of the day, the politicians will listen to the loud angry minority who they feel could benefit their chances for re-election in the long term instead of thinking of the longterm success of our cities. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for regulations to hold manufacturers and the delivery companies responsible for what they're creating. I'm all for safer homes and safer roads. We as a community just want to see them take a fair and balanced approach instead of a heavy handed knee jerk response that we've seen so far. Instead of only listening to the anti PEV folks and escorting anyone that disagrees with them out, listen to both sides and make policies that can keep the cities on track for their green initiatives while making the angry people feel better. You're right, it's just begun and we have to do our part. An Emoto and EMTB sounds like a ton of fun lol. I can even take it on the highway at that point!

[@koolsometimes]

@@eyebahnrides Heck yeah eyebahn that's why you sir are the best.

[@NatsumeKonno]

All they need to do is let sur ron type bike be a moped 40mph. Anything higher treat it as a motorcycle. How can something that can reach 50mph have no registration, insurance or license. While my actual electric motorcycle does.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you chiming. I know it's its an unpopular point of view especially from those that own the surron style edirtbikes, but I agree with this. That's one of the reasons I took the MSF course and did the video on it. I felt that there was something to learn from a course designed to help people become better riders. Also, I wanted my M License just incase something happens. Best case scenario things stay as they are and they implement a few restrictions and we have to register high powered PEVs. Worst case scenario, I buy an emotorcycle (maybe a Ryvid or a Super73) and start making highway riding content. As additional content, I'll still make the commuter videos on my UL certified Specialized eMTB or something!

[@DarkFoxV]

11:00 fr!

[@ltdeditioncobba6382]

I hope to God the laws and regulations don't turn out anything like Australia's PEV laws

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride and thanks for chiming in as well. I really hope we don't get to the point of the laws/ regulations like they have in Australia and the EU. I wouldn't mind having to register my scooter, having age restrictions, requiring a driver's license, and stricter battery standards. However, things like excessive restrictions on power and all out bans would be overkill in my opinion.

[@ltdeditioncobba6382]

@@eyebahnrides Oh I agree, if I had to register my scooter in order to ride on the road im all for it. But because of the Australian Design Rules, E scooters cannot be registered for road use here. Unless the Government decide to change those rules im afraid we'll still be held back

[@ltdeditioncobba6382]

Unfortunately with the fear of lithium battery fires on the rise and the idiots on hire scooters behaving like absolute morons causing accidents, there are alot of people here trying to get PEVs banned. This makes it difficult for those of us who follow the rules and rely on our PEVs to commute to work or to just generally get around

[@truthiscensored]

It is gonna take a huge fight to make PEVs legal and standard. Too many things related to cars directly or indirectly profit from cars. Car makers, Car Dealers, Car Repair, Car Towing, Bank Car loans, Car insurance DMV Licenses, Registration LE tickets, fines Drivers Ed. Courses Smog Certification Streets and Highway infrastructure Toll Roads Parking Gas Stations Big O.i.l Companies Auto Parts Marker Auto Part stores Mechanic Entertainment The above spent over 100 years to get things they way they are and they aren't going down without a fight and major push back

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you chiming in with such a detailed response and I agree with your point. In NYC we would add MTA into the list of organizations that are probably pushing for these regulations and bans. I've told this story a few times but it's worth repeating. I was once stopped at a checkpoint while commuting to work for riding a PEV. From the beginning of the interaction the officer that stopped me was already combative and rude. I'll never forget what he said as he handed me the ticket. " You people are the problem. Get off those things and take the MTA like the rest of us". The moment I became aware of this "push" everything started to connect in my head and I knew there was something larger pushing the narrative that constantly played on the news.

[@bombblast1298]

Well I hope there are other people content creators who are standing up for the e-bike community and not just give up😡

[@eyebahnrides]

I hope they're actually standing up for the community and not pretending like they are for the views. We all fight in our own ways and it's not always visible because not everything is posted on these platforms. Some of us have actually submitted our information to our local government representatives in the event they want to work with PEV enthusiasts in townhall meetings about regulations. I know some people that prefer to do a picket protest outside government buildings but my work schedule won't permit me to participate like that. I don't think anyone is giving up. We just have to work with the current situation and act in a way that doesn't hurt our chances of getting what we want as a community.

[@kevinnashskitchen3517]

What did people do to get food delivered back in 1980? That is the answer to todays delivery dilemma.😂

[@eyebahnrides]

If we had less cars on the road in NYC we could still do that but returning to analog bikes wouldn't be a bad thing either. I just think that consumers are so used to getting their things so quick that poop would hit the fan if that happens!

[@davecook81]

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[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this one as well Dave!

[@Zooted247]

It’s always the stupid ones who mess it up for the rest of the good people

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us on this ride and welcome to the channel Zooted! It's a shame that whether it's with the fires or the reckless riding, it's the few bad ones that mess it up for the majority that's just trying to do theyre thing....

[@Zooted247]

@@eyebahnrides thank you! I actually been watching your stuff for a while, but never able to comment cause I’m watching from the PS5….Hopefully I can ride out with ya one day! I seen people on your videos that i know lmao!

[@eyebahnrides]

@@Zooted247 i appreciate the long time support! It really is a small world out there if you're seeing people that you know on the videos lol. People have even spotted themselves while watching my commute videos. It's pretty trippy for them lol

[@mylifepoetic]

The irony of this video, is that while I do enjoy your videos, even within THIS video you display the reasoning for regulation. I get it. I do. I have fun on my bike too. However, @10:18 near sideswipe, @11:18 just decided to breeze through the red light, @12:20 blowing by pedestrians going 27 plus. Again I get it. But none of what's happening should be surprising.

[@Febreeezin]

Man.. if you see me ride you'll lose your mind.

[@mylifepoetic]

@Febreeezin It's not about "losing my mind". However in about a year, when the overall consensus is ebikes now have to be registered and insured, don't act surprised.

[@Febreeezin]

I agree. What I meant was you put timestamps of "whatever you wanna call it riding or endangering or whatever". If it was me riding you'd have 10000 lol

[@eyebahnrides]

Yea, I'm definitely one of the most conservative riders in NYC. Yall should've seen us back in the glory days of fixed gear riding in NYC. It was definitely the wild west. I think there are still channels that still showcase that insanity but I wanna make it home to my wife so I'm not doing that lol. But I get how seeing a NYer flow with the city and observing the unspoken rules of the road for NYC can be seen as needing to be regulated. I'm the first to admit that its crazy out here. Most of my concerns in the video are about the regulations around fires. That's because I really think they're shooting themselves in the foot by going after legitimate repair shops and physical retail locations. The first thing they should've taken care of are the ecommerce sites that will sell a "burn your house down special PEV" directly to a buyer. Even if you force brick and mortar locations to comply, it means nothing if folks can still access dangerous low quality products.

[@mylifepoetic]

@@eyebahnrides Born and raised in NY my dude, again nothing personal. I've watched quite a bit of your videos. I would never call you a conservative rider. Nor are the majority of riders in most places. I can speak of riding in NY, in PA, in OH, in TX. Regulations have been long approaching.

[@flitsies]

Why not just swap from lithium ion batteries to lifpo 4 batteries until a better battery tech comes along.

[@NatsumeKonno]

Lifpo4 are far weaker but are much safer. Just like how lipo is much more powerful smaller but tend to catch fire easily l.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I think we're all hopeful that safer options that deliver as much power at a smaller/ lighter form will be available to us sooner. For now, as much as certifications don't really mean much, the UL certifying existing batteries Every time they do one of those expos and tradeshows, I'm praying to see a break through in the battery technology

[@flitsies]

@@eyebahnrides It's a compromise that may help to get the authorities off our back, one that some may be OK with.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@flitsies agreed. When I heard Honda had a breakthrough at the end of last year on an all solid state battery, I was excited. I know they said the capacity isnt enough for EVs like cars, trucks, and motorcycles, but I couldn't help but wonder are they enough for PEVs lol

[@psocretes8183]

From a European perspective you were driving recklessly on combined pedestrian cycle paths past a guy. You were also crossing what we call zebra crossings for pedestrians when they still had right of way. Vary bad form. The speeds you are going at are similar to a moped/small motorbike. In Europe the maximum power for an ebike is 250 watts and 15.5 MPH. Anything more powerful than that and it is classed as a moped at least and needs insurance and a type class. You must not 'over volt' the motor to make it go faster. So if your bike comes with a 36 volt battery you must not put a 52 or higher volted battery on to make it go faster. I can see the authorities bringing in similar legislation in the USA.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. I appreciate you taking the time to share that insight. I'm the first to admit that watching NYers navigate the city in general can be anxiety inducing for those on the outside looking in. Especially if they're coming from a place that runs well and has reasonable infrastructure! I can see something like that eventually being implemented. Honestly, I don't mind registering my PEV in order to operate at higher speeds with traffic and I really want safer batteries. So some type of government regulation will help

[@BummySheep]

Think you're not being honest with yourself here cause you yourself like you said are so invested in the PEV space. With spring approaching and the mega ride season starting its honestly only a matter of time. Even last year cops would give me dirty looks when I'm on my Talaria, come to find out there was a mega ride that weekend before. You made a good point about "All the kids" and a lot of the stigma are young dumbass kids being hooligans on these high speed death traps. The fact that this shit is unregulated is mind boggling, that a 14 year old can hop on a Surron or Nami and do 40mph without any gear or wits about any traffic laws. Honestly this all stems from just lack of knowledge, any joe smoe can get a scooter ebike but these same people have never driven a car before at the minimum to even know how to behave on the streets where they are supposed to be...not the side walk. My commute to work is getting crazier every day cause of idiots on scooters and ebikes just doing the dumbest shit and not obeying any traffic laws. At the end of the day if you're a responsible person you'll register and go by the books to continue doing what you do.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome back to the comments section! I appreciate you chiming in. You're right, as an enthusiast and as a creator in the space, I'm quite invested in the PEV community. I would love to see a more balanced approach to the regulations since I'm all for safer batteries and safer roads. There's definitely a stigma to the usage of PEVs. I spoke about it in my Motorcycle Safety Foundation video and said that its scary that anyone with money or any kid with parents with can buy a high powered death trap even though they have no experience being on the roads. That's why I've always wished that they would require atleast a learner's permit or a license to own and operate any high powered PEVs (anything that can exceed 20mph). You're also right about the commute being complete and utter chaos. Now that I have to be in the office much earlier, I'm catching the morning rush hour and it's a freaking free for all with the delivery folks on the ebikes, the folks on the mopeds, the citibikers, the oblivious cyclists/ pedestrians, and the PEV guys that are treating the commute like the Isle of Man TT... The crazy thing is, we haven't even factored the vehicle traffic there yet lol. If we have to register and pay, I'm probably going to do it and I'll remain as a voice of reason for the community. If they ever open up a townhall or they're looking for input in the community, I'll be there for that as well.

[@snoopysrc]

Nice scooter

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome back to the comments section! I'm glad you like the scooter because I'm definitely enjoying the heck out of it!

[@Claud_us]

They always going for 2 things, law abiding citizens and easy money grab. They don't care or don't want to bother with gangs, ghost plates or anything that. Like you said they should sit and work with professionals and legit businesses to create rules with safety in mind. I understand point about UL certification. But do they know the cost of it and how much a company would need to spend to obtain UL for battery and each PEV individually they have to offer? Accidents happen on everything and everywhere, somehow no county baned cars. Banning is not a solution. Back in a days we had bicycle card in the country I'm coming from, similar to driver license allowing you to operate bicycle on the streets. It worked. It was cancelled once my country became part of EU since they didn't have such a thing, but that was before they created bicycle lanes and paths.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and thank you for your response Claud! I appreciate you sharing your experience with the bicycle card, that's really interesting! Also, as you already know, I agree with the other points you mentioned. It's interesting you also mentioned "law abiding citizens and money grabs" because thats what some of the police checkpoints on the bridge seem like. The only reason I got a ticket riding an EUC on the bridge was because I stopped and felt like I had nothing to hide as a law abiding citizen. They took advantage of a routine stop to issue me a ticket and told me "you should get off that crap and ride the subways". I didn't see them go after all the guys dodging the checkpoints on their mopeds and surrons...

[@Claud_us]

This is exactly what I'm talking about especially the fact they said you should use subway.

[@eyebahnrides]

@@Claud_us yea man, it's hard not to try and connect the dots here when it's clear they're trying to push us in a particular direction

[@paddleboarddog]

Think of the children as your rights are stripped away.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel, I appreciate you chiming in! You've got a point there, it always starts with the small things.

[@brilliantart6420]

I'm fine with registration, to be honest. It's still much cheaper than owning a car. I think if riders are treated almost equally to drivers and follow traffic laws, they might even be legally protected. (That could shut up the people who badmouth innocent scooter riders. we can say, "This is a legally registered vehicle.") BTW, I'm against kids riding scooters without knowing the basic traffic laws. But here's my concern: The cop didn't bother about the scooters' potential speed in the past. But if scooter registration and insurance become mandatory requirements, we might not be able to lie about the scooter's specs. If e-bikes going up to 28mph are considered Class 3 bicycles, I'm uncertain how scooters going over 40-50mph would be categorized. Without clear guidelines, I'm not sure if they'd be outright illegal. So, if fast scooters can't be registered, should I opt for one that goes under 20mph?

[@eyebahnrides]

Yup, that's pretty much what I said in my response to your other comment. I'm sure it'll be a much smaller fee compared to most vehicle. I also 100% agree to requiring atleast a learner's permit to operate a high performance scooter. I hate sounding like one of those angry "older folks", but some of the dumbest and most dangerous things I've seen are from these kids riding bikes, surrons, and escooters. Not only don't they know the basic traffic laws, they're also trying to do things to "impress each other" and go viral. Just look at these kids subway surfing. As for the "measuring performance", I believe they have a way of doing that now in Europe that may make its way over. The only problem with that is the argument of " just because it goes that fast doesnt mean it's operated at that speed". So it's really tough to see where that goes. The under 20mph scooters will generally lack the range and speed to survive anything other than flat pavement so those may not be worth it. If you're gonna do sub 20mph, ebikes with pedal assist may give you more value.

[@brilliantart6420]

@@eyebahnrides Yeah, I'm totally on board with that. Clueless folks seem to be ruining the entire image of PEV.😮‍💨

[@eyebahnrides]

@@brilliantart6420 facts on facts. Some people are trying to relive their reckless ganster days. I'm just trying to enjoy my ride to work while saving money and time lol.

[@Febreeezin]

I almost feel bad for riding like a demon on my scooter after watching your ride and monolog.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel Shaf! I appreciate you chiming in here. hahaha never feel bad man, we all have our riding styles. I'm quite conservative now but I still know how to flow with traffic so I get places faster than most people think lol. As long as you make it home safe and those around you are doing the same, do what you gotta do!

[@Febreeezin]

​@eyebahnrides almost feel bad .. almost lol. Watched a few other videos and love em! Your talking points are interesting and love the scenery. You should join a group ride in NYC. East Coast Scooters hosts the best ones. 👌

[@RaiderNation-North]

Nobody should be ‘working on batteries’. When a battery is done, it should be properly disposed of and a NEW battery purchased.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video, I appreciate you chiming in here. I 10000000% agree. Nobody should be working or finessing these things and you would think that's common sense... I get that it's expensive but that's where holding the delivery companies responsible to helping subsidize the cost of replacement comes in to play. Especially, if the person is a delivery worker that's contributed to the bonus checks of the execs...

[@Zooted247]

And the more people use PEVs the more the city wants to make MONEY!

[@eyebahnrides]

you know what at the end of the day, we all know that's what all this comes down to. Money. They want to force people back on to the subway and on the roads so they can capitalize on the new Congestion Fees and potential Fare increases. For those that still want to avoid that, they'll want to collect it on the registration end...

[@Zooted247]

@@eyebahnrides I wouldn’t doubt the city starts putting tolls on the bike lanes lmao

[@eyebahnrides]

@@Zooted247 lol I mentioned that in my last eskateboard video. They're counting all the dollars they're losing in congestion pricing for every person that's on an ebike. They're already going to hit motorcyclists, I can already see them setting up an ezpass tag on ebikes, escooters, and regular bikes lol

[@edrictorres7809]

The UL certification for batteries needed to happen. Too many of these cheap unsafe batteries flowing into the city. As far as regulations for EBikes, illegal EBikes like Sur Ron’s, mopeds and emotorcycles do not belong on cycling infrastructure, they belong on the street with other motor vehicles. That is the group that is bringing unnecessary heat to people with EBikes. Get them off the bike lanes. If the bike exceeds the class 3 designation, it should be registered. Stick to the 3 class system and those of us who utilize PEVs will be just fine.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us on this rant session of mine and welcome to the channel! I 1000000% agree with everything you put up there. I don’t mind the registration process as long as I can still continue to use my PEVs. I would like them to require a drivers license (not an M license) to operate anything higher than class 2 because some of the most dangerous dumb things I see are these kids on surrons…

[@edrictorres7809]

@@eyebahnrides Love your channel man, you make great content! Don’t get me wrong, I have no issue with PEVs that exceed class 3 specs, I just want them off the cycling infrastructure. I really don’t even feel like most people use them inappropriately. Some of the bad apples who use them recklessly ruin it for everyone, small group big problem. I was on the Brooklyn bridge the other day pumping away at 25mph and some dude blew right past me, had to be twice my speed at least. It’s dangerous going at highways speeds on a bike lane. Someone will get hurt or worse and then we’ll have a knee jerk reaction to ALL PEVs in the city. Well end up with some stupid law where you can’t exceed 15mph , which means nobody will be using them because you can literally go way faster on an acoustic bike. Agree with the license point, you shouldn’t need an M license. I do not want registration for PEVs that comply with the 3 class system. EBikes that are in compliance are more like acoustic bikes. And once that cats out of the bag the city will want everything that rolls on wheels to be registered so they can make us pay for the privilege. Never underestimate the greed of NYC, let’s do a better job of following the existing rules that work if followed, if not we will end up with draconian restrictive laws that are imposed on us by people who are clueless.

[@dutchbicyclerides-ss1ko]

Many just seem to want to avoid what should be normal. Batteries can be a danger even more in a city where a local fire in one home can effect others. So make sure they are certified the rest of the world does it there is no good reason you would allow crap that brings danger to your loved ones. Second just admit (even in this video i didn't see you or anyone peddle or go bicycle speed) you own a moped/electric scooter. Again fine they can help a city like NY a lot but given the speeds and where you drive them also makes perfect sense you need to follow the same rules. Thats what we do in most of europe ebikes are not really considered any different. They need to be safe and not blow up, if they act like a bicycle the law will see them as bicycle and if they act like moped/scooter they be seen by law as a moped/scooter. All these videos on 'they bad law is trying to take away our toys' without much reason seems to only hurt you. Now i don't know you and i am partly reacting to the look at mine does 40/50/60mph, and look i can do wheelies all day and it has 3000watts and why do i need to follow any rules videos i see online complaining about rules that seem not that weird and compares to other products in the same space.

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for joining us for this ride and welcome to the channel. I appreciate you chiming in and sharing with us! I've always been a supporter of tighter regulations when it comes to batteries. I've always wanted these shops that make tons of money by selling dangerous products to unsuspecting shoppers and the chop shops that do illegal battery repair fined and shut down. We as a community in NYC are aware of that and the last thing we want to see is our friends and loved ones hurt because of those businesses. As stated in the video, my concern is NYC's blanket approach may force legitimate retailers and repair shops out of NYC. That's a problem because underground repair shops will replace them and its going to lead to more issues in the long term. Also, they need to gain control over ecommerce sites that will sell people a "burn your house down special PEV" with poorly made battery and a non existent BMS or safety measures along with checking in on the brick and mortar retailers. If people still have access to these poorly made products and you only have "illegal repair shops", I can only see the problem getting worse. This isn't one of those "boohoo... fight the power and dont take away our toys" videos. I wanted to just share my perspective as to why the city needs to work with the community so that a better solution can be found. This channel was created to show that the pev community isn't just a bunch of hooligans punching babies while doing wheelies (I'm fully aware of NYC's reputation as the capital of the "hooligan riding style"). I wanted to show that there are professionals and normal everyday people that enjoy the PEV hobby and we're just trying to go about our business. To be fair to our community, the PEV isn't the only community that have a few bad apples that post themselves doing dumb things because they think they're above the law. I see a ton of content with drivers, motorcyclists, rollerbladers, and cyclists doing equally bad, if not worse, things than the PEV community. A whole community of people should not be defined by their worst.

[@dutchbicyclerides-ss1ko]

@@eyebahnrides When i was writing and watching i already got the feeling you where slightly different and more on the side of reason but slowing things down and giving the lobby against more air because some of the good shops will be in trouble can't be the best way the solution has to be a reasonable stands on these types of rule and educate the public. I wonder why this doesn't really happen much over here and i don't have a clear answer it might be because bicycles are seen as toys and people using them as odd instead of just a way to commute, it might be the somewhat build in muscle car wants of mostly young male adults no idea. I feel your pain and react to many of these videos (more than i should) since so much can be lost a good ebike in both areas (in the bicycle space and moped/scooter space) can help so much going forward. To me its clear part of the issue is the name ebike itself that covers a too wide range of devices. I know we are lucky in the netherlands there are too many ebikes sold (more than 50% of all bicycles) and laws are already in place and we have the infrastructure and decades of getting used to this rebalance of carbicyclepublic transport space. I do feel looking at your bike, driving style and speeds you are more a scooter than a bicycle and why would you be scared of some added rules and demands on them?

[@eyebahnrides]

@@dutchbicyclerides-ss1ko hahaha yea, I spend too much time replying to comments and also reacting to other videos on youtube. I do enjoy the conversation and it's fun to hear perspective of others around the world. I don't mind paying to be able to operate at higher speeds with a registration and my motorcycle license on the roads. I welcome rules and regulations that will finally define that. On certain parts of my commute (specifically the bridges), I've operated my scooter with traffic only to be told that I need to be in the bike lanes. I've been told be law enforcement verbatim " I don't care what the f*ck you do in the bike lane, stay the f*ck off the roads". If they really wanted to do the city some good, I would like them to work on adapting our dilapidated infrastructure to support modern transporting solutions. Just like most, if not all, American cities, our infrastructure is so car-centric that everyone else is just fighting for their share of what's left. I used to operate a fixed gear bike in the city for decades and the lack of speed is terrifying and dangerous because vehicles will literally try to push you off the road in to the pedestrians. If we can build a bike lane structure close to what they have in the EU, I honestly wouldn't mind downgrading to a Specialized Tero X for commuting and upgrading my scooter to a full eMotorcycle for joyriding outside of the city! When I have kids, I would love to have one of those cargo ebikes so that I can transport them around the city! But unfortunately, that's only a dream since the automotive legislative lobby is quite strong and this is " Murrica land of the Cars" lol

[@toadster20000]

Creat a certified course and have a license to repair battery

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and I would love to see something like that. Unfortunately, it'll probably never happen since it requires the government to come up with real solutions and have regulatory oversight lol

[@SciD1]

A few idiots ruined it for the rest of us, simple as that.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel! I agree with you. Your profile picture is literally what I do every time I see, read, or hear about the dumb stuff people are doing on the roads and the dumbthings people are doing to batteries...🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jimjr9143]

We all knew these restrictions where on it way . 99% of e-ride videos showcase seriously reckless behavior . Rides above legal power and speed limits , riding on sidewalks and bike lanes on these very powerful , very fast rides . All illegal in all states but they do it anyway . Wheelies on public roads , swerving in and out of traffic and even riding into oncoming traffic lanes . To make matters worse showing proof of all this by posting there videos of these things all over KZbin . So yes , something has to be done , but out right ban is obviously very silly . Others have pointed out then that would mean then that we need to ban cars . So a very silly way to handle it . Registration of these i think is a good direction . With required visible plate to identify those riding above the law . Now sure someone could possibly make up there own plate but overall that would be rare and would help make sure that if the owner loaned out his e-ride, scooter to make the borrower aware of what can come back on him if the borrower rides reckless . I see many KZbin videos of those modifying there rides to thousands of watts . Those should obviously require a liscence , registration and insurance . Mopeds of this power have always required these things so obviously if an e-ride has that kind of power it is no longer in any stretch considered under E-bike classification.

[@eyebahnrides]

yup, we all saw this coming. Like I said in the video, I don't mind the stricter regulations on batteries and requiring, at minimum a driver's license, to operate a high performance PEV. That's the biggest reason I opted to go for my motorcycle license. As far as the stupid stuff on social media, I think everyone is guilty of posting proof of dumb stuff from pedestrians, to cars, to motorcyclists, and i think the worst folks are the bike riders in NYC. To your point, it's stupid to do a blanket ban because that doesn't solve anything and just forces more shady builds as the owners move to "underground places" to get their work done. After reading an article lately that talks about the push of the automotive/ fossil fuel industry to fight EV industry by controlling news narratives and supporting anti EV politicians, I'm thinking that the ones really behind the heavy handed things in NYC is the MTA and those industry. I hate sounding like a conspiracy theorist but that's just the way it looks as the brain begins to connect the dots.

[@Zooted247]

Fingers are pointed… Yet some states are allowing children to rent these citi bikes riding in traffic!

[@eyebahnrides]

you should see some of the kids on edirtbikes along side the kids that stole the citibikes riding around doing dumb stuff!

[@Zooted247]

@@eyebahnrides def see them, I’m in the city!

[@jamieturnage9511]

they are treating riders like they are treating trump unfairly. people like mayor adams is destroying new york

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I hate to take things there but Mayor Adams has some work ahead of him to help make this city better...

[@DarkFoxV]

Anything besides gas-powered automobiles is threatening :/

[@eyebahnrides]

aint that the truth. I feel like anything that threatens that industry is always labeled as "dangerous" lol

[@jerrodgamble5686]

This is something that the pev community needs to protest. We can’t just lay down and let them steel this from us. U don’t sound willing to fight these laws, it’s kind disappointing to me. Content creators should be the ones leading this fight.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching and welcome to the channel. We all fight these things in our own way behind the scenes. I've doing my part in my building by educating ownership and preventing them from banning them all together and I try to teach people (that are willing to listen) how to do that as well. Unfortunately, due to my work schedule, I won't be picketing outside of a press conference to fight. If they do have open floor Town Hall meetings about it, I will be there to speak for the community. I also continue to do my part on here to be a positive outlet for the PEV community on this platform.

[@jimjr9143]

Ironically its the pev community which is causing this . Literally everyone stated that because of the huge amount of reckless amount of riding these and modding them with thousands of watts that restrictions where on there way and here we are

[@Petty-Polite1019]

Oh 1 more thing, as a native New Yorker. I am voting every last Democrat out of office. For the 1st time in my life. Starting with the Council members, Governor, Mayor, Hakeem Jefferie's and then the President. All of them must be voted out. Idc if i jave to vote alone, I am no longer voting Democrat. Their laws make absolutely 0 sense to me at all smfh. I'll vote 3rd party before I'll vote for a Democrat ever again.

[@eyebahnrides]

our whole system definitely needs an overhaul 🙏🏼

[@DarkFoxV]

Send letters!!

[@ianreed4636]

More of our wasted Tax dollars in my opinion !

[@eyebahnrides]

Thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel Ian! I 100% agree with you. Yes, I admit that regulations need to happen with the quality of the batteries and thats something that the govt should be tackling on a higher level with the manufacturers and retailers. Yes, I admit that I want safer streets. However, I can think of better ways to spend the money they're blowing through on these political stunts. God knows, NYC has a ton of other problems that are more pressing lol

[@bombblast1298]

Everything is in the Uproar because of some stupid town in Florida what's so special about this town have a age restriction and that's it .I don't need police stopping me to check if my ebike is up to code asking me for a license or registration insurance what the.... miners are riding these e-bikes it's the parents responsibility and should be liable

[@eyebahnrides]

Apparently the accident in FL involved a community leader who was riding their bike without and she was hit by a minor on an ebike who was wearing protective gear. The anger seems to stem from months of frustration from their community dealing with folks on PEVs and all of it came to a head in the accident. I'm saddened to see a death as a result of what happened. Like you said, parents need to be responsible for teaching their kids how to safely operate high powered ebikes at a young age.

[@robnaugle4149]

Lol at saying NYC can't operate without ebike delivery riders. The business is a net-negative for the economy and society. Totally unnecessary service and literally relies on illegal immigrants who are more or less indentured servants for it's workforce.

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks watching the video and welcome to the channel. That may be the case, but that industry isn't the only industry built on the backs of overworked and underpaid labor (third world labor, illegal immigrants, legal immigrants, and citizens). I'm sure the city can go back to operating on analog bikes/ cars to handle delivery and messenger services, but I'm sure people won't be happy with the longer wait times and higher prices now that they're used to it (especially with congestion fees coming in a few months). Again, I'm not defending the industry because I think it needs to be fixed at all levels just like everything else in this city lol.

[@bombblast1298]

No I disagree I don't think we should just sit back and do nothing yes they should be a age limit but what gives them the right put a Ban and decide what regulation they should have for e-bikes there are more car fatalities than bikes there people who can't afford Transportation that's the luxury of having a e-bike scooter it's a one time a payment with no worries unlike having a car

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video and welcome to the channel! I appreciate you chiming in. I agree that the age restriction should've been in place already or at least implement performance restrictions for the minors. Saving money and time is definitely one of the biggest selling points for PEVs. Alot of the issues we run into in a congested city like NYC is due to the vehicle-centric infrastructure that prioritizes cars while making pedestrians and alternative transportation an after thought. We're all fighting for a place in this city =(

[@mustbee-bike994]

we all have lives like you we understand no biggie, love your content so your pardon 😎🤟

[@eyebahnrides]

thank you for understanding, I appreciate your continued support 🙏🏼!

[@DaveG-ur1wm]

Are all the Nami scooters 🛴 UL certified?

[@eyebahnrides]

thanks for watching the video Dave. Unfortunately, none of the Namis are UL Certified. The higher end version of each model will use quality brand name cells along with a quality BMS & fail safes. The base models will have generic cells that are built to the same standard with the same BMS and fail safes.

[@DaveG-ur1wm]

@@eyebahnridesDo you think 🧐 we will see all PEV companies adopt the UL safety laws if those states in mention pass a making in mandatory?