Thanks for this very informative contribution! This 73 year old native speaker just learned something interesting about English.
@oxanatrobyuk5647 Жыл бұрын
I can't help but enjoy your way of teaching the language. Bravo!
@guillaumeromain6694 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Gideon for following up on this. You are brilliant. I love the content you put out.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
You're too kind
@Хунвейбин666 Жыл бұрын
I'm always extremely delighted when I have an opportunity to watch your new videos. The recent ones are just marvelous. Keep it up, Gideon!
@Rh0mbusАй бұрын
As an American the formal register sounds way more formal than anything I see in any context here even in white collar work. It almost sounds joking because it is so formal, comes across nearly sarcastic. I wonder if it is different in different countries.
@OceanChild75 Жыл бұрын
This was so interesting, thank you so much! I had never realised that politicians tend to use neutral register, I will pay attention to it - well apart from Jacob Rees-Mogg but he is definitely not trying to me "a man of the people" is he? 😂 I guess most native English speakers change register without realising it to match the situation they find themselves in but it can be challenging for non-native speakers to gauge whether or not a word is too "formal". I know I do struggle, but I also think being a native French speaker push me to use words of French origin, which tend to be formal from my understanding. The second part of your video was very amusing! 😂 You are excellent at finding the right balance between informative and fun. It is always a pleasure seeing new videos on your channel, although I do hope you haven’t been overworking yourself as you have published quite a lot recently
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
You're very kind thanks. In addition to making videos I have a full-time job so, yes, a little overworked but enjoying it just the same.
@davidlinehat4657 Жыл бұрын
Maybe academic formality differs with the field of study? I have degree in History and we were taught to use the active voice. The mother of my children has doctorate in Social Work and tends to use the more passive form
@terencedenman702Ай бұрын
There is no need for ‘academic’ style even in academia. People should write in a natural conversational style as if talking to the reader in a classroom. Any technical words should be joined by natural, conversational words for the most part. Absolutely convinced of this.
@philosophyofiron968622 күн бұрын
it feels to me like there are substantive distinctions of formality, tone, vocabulary, grammar etc. to be made within the registers mentioned here. Like, the style of phrasing it is normative to use when we speak to shop employees or ask strangers for directions is markedly different from the way journalists and pundits speak to audiences and to each other. When I was learning Mandarin, we learned this oxymoronic-sounding term that translates to "formal colloquial" to denote the register of news publications and journalists. I think this term actually works remarkably well to describe how this same milieu speaks in English (both in the US and UK, even if the US is permissive of a bit higher degree of informality). What especially makes the term "formal colloquial" sound right, is that the language journalists and pundits use is, in my experience, barely distinguishable at all from the way groups of educated, non-intimate /not-especially close friends and associates speak with each other in casual conversation. The exact same idioms, fixed expressions and collocations arise in these contexts as to do when watching the news (ex. "shot over the bow," "tip the scales," "make headway," "full disclosure," "red herring," "groundswell," "card-carrying," "persona non grata," "abject failure," etc.)
@konradm6514 Жыл бұрын
If somebody in bank talks to you " sit down love we can chat about your loan" you are in West Yorkshire.😄 And I loved this when I was living there for 12 years. Best wishes from Poland to all on this wonderful channel. Thank you Gideon. By the way may I ask if your ancestors are of French origin ?
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
it's true in West Yorkshire they do sound like that. I know because I lived in Leeds for a while.
@caraboska Жыл бұрын
Honestly? What you term "formal register" here sounds like pretty ordinary dinner table conversation or e-mail correspondence with my family. The "medium" version sounded like a discreetly simplified version for the benefit of English learners who might not yet be at C2 level. My idea of "formal register" would be something like this: Praise the Lord. On the occasion of his 16th birthday, I have the pleasure to wish His Royal Highness Marcel Hairy Icchak Ebenezer Filemon, Prince Racławicki a long, happy and healthy life, as well as to extend him my most sincere gratitude for his love, friendship and companionship. May God bless you today and always HRH Ludwika Elizabeth Małgorzata Iman Hatszepsut, Princess Pędzichowska, Princess Consort Racławicka PS Yes, I really do say such things as "He has vastly more experience than I" or even just "It is I" in ordinary conversation. Your illustration of "He's got considerably more experience than I _have_ " showcases perfectly why this is the correct usage :) PPS I don't remember the exact details of my conversation with my parents about adopting a vegan diet, but I had already been a vegetarian for some years when it took place. So, that final dialogue could have played out as follows: Mom: Hello, [name]. Would you be available to visit us for lunch on Sunday? [Yours truly]: Certainly. However, before we proceed, I need to give you a heads-up: I have recently adopted a vegan diet. Mom: OK, I'm sure we can come up with something appropriate. Now, I assume that means no more milk products or eggs. What about honey? Do bees count as animals too? [Yours truly]: Yes, they do :) Mom: OK, duly noted :)
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
If you use the formal register Gideon used in the video at an ordinary table conversation you're quite a posh person. It's too cumbersome and unnatural for me.
@caraboska Жыл бұрын
@@soundscape26 I suspect that the term "posh" is inapplicable here, in that my family comes from the United States, and my parents live there to this day. I think that age and education probably have more to do with how our English came to be the way it is: - I date from the tail end of the Baby Boom; and my parents, from the period right around the beginning of World War II; - All of us hold degrees from institutions to be found on the first page of the Times World University Rankings. Be that as it may, my parents were very careful never to speak "baby talk" to me, so what I like to call "Ivy English" is pretty much all I knew until I graduated from university and entered the work force.
@Kehich Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Thank you, Gideon, for explanation and clarification of this important topic! I must admit, I never knew there are four Registers, although I knew about Informal and Formal already.
@schitlipzАй бұрын
Sounds like situational scripts from psychology. We all behave (and talk) according to the present roll we're in. Often speech isn't involved, like waiting in a line - the script is move, pause, move, pause. Register is a good word for it.
@josecarrales2842 Жыл бұрын
As an example. When talking to close friends one can almost sound insulting. In the intimate register you can get away with... "Don't be an idiot, hit the damn books!" Versus... "If you wanted to know this, you might study it a bit more." Versus... "If one wished to be aware of the matter, one would make it an area of academic pursuit."
@whiskeylullaby1592 Жыл бұрын
thank you gideon this is video that i’ve been looking
@KamalKumar-bw4sv Жыл бұрын
Something exciting to learn,indeed....thank u so much,🙏
@vania698 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@whiskeylullaby1592 Жыл бұрын
we need more video like this
@cleancoder383820 күн бұрын
A good salesman/woman adapts his/her register to the kind of person whom he/she is selling something to be more successful. (That's part of NLP)
@user-bf8ud9vt5b Жыл бұрын
Registers of English language formality: Formal Informal Australian
@exdejesusАй бұрын
Very interesting! Makes so much sense.
@kadowaluna1 Жыл бұрын
Hello, Gideon, that’s better, wow! As usual very creative, greetings from Sendai Jp from a Mexican living here, ‘Ta
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
Cheers, gracias, arigato. Glad you liked the video.
@elainebelzDetroit Жыл бұрын
Is it bad that the toaster one had me thinking of Fry & Laurie (I could hear a Stephen Fry character selling the toaster in the formal register), Red Dwarf (that one should be obvious), & Dr Who (w/a bit of editing: "Who looks at a toaster & thinks, 'Ooh, this could be a little more wi-fi'?")?
@Middle-Road.Kim.K Жыл бұрын
I'm wondering if you should cover sarcasm? I remember learning that the most common way we insinuate sarcasm is by changing register (with the exception of 'dead-panning'). English sarcasm should probably be a course in and of itself. 😆
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
I will cover sarcasm in a video coming up very soon. Stay tuned.
@Middle-Road.Kim.K Жыл бұрын
@@LetThemTalkTV Thank you! I tried to explain sarcasm to my son when he was little and failed miserably. I'm looking forward to watching how you explain such a nuanced aspect of English. 🤔
@АлексейЛоринов Жыл бұрын
What a music english English is! Thanks a lot mr Gideon.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
My pleasure
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
So interesting. I guess this is something we learn unconsciously in our native languages. The casual register is my formal register, very rarely do I need to go higher and whenever I do I sound like a posh snobbish person. Also... "If I were you", not "If I was you"... I can't be you.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
yes but..."if he was here yesterday", or "if he were here yesterday"? then it's not so easy.
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
@@LetThemTalkTV The way I learnt is that "were" is for hypothetical situations so whenever there's an "if" I go with "were". But of course since you say it's not easy there's more to it I'm sure.
@nHans Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the "mood"-yet another dimension of English grammar. There are 3 moods: subjunctive, indicative, and imperative. The subjunctive is used for hypothetical situations, as in your example. But I guess that's a topic for another day, eh Gideon? My 2¢ on _"if he _*_was_*_ here yesterday"_ v. _"if he _*_were_*_ here yesterday":_ ➔ _"If he _*_was_*_ here yesterday, he couldn't have been in New York committing the murder."_ - logical deduction; indicative mood. ➔ _"If he _*_were_*_ here yesterday, he could've proposed to her before Brian did."_ - wishful thinking; subjunctive mood. Strictly speaking, it's wrong to use "was" for hypotheticals. But that usage has become so common that it's considered acceptable for everyday speech. Unless you're pedantic, like Sheldon Cooper. 🤣 Here's Jim Morrison of _The Doors_ singing the highly popular lyrics _"You know that I would be a liar / If I _*_was_*_ to say to you / Girl, we couldn't get much higher."_ Grates on my ears-but that's only because I'm not a native English speaker. I was formally trained in English by old-school matrons of the _"don't spare the rod"_ variety. How I wish they had whacked _his_ knuckles mercilessly with a ruler's edge for saying "was"!
@anonymous-cq7wj7 ай бұрын
I don't think the formal register is learned unconsciously by most people. If you weren't raised/educated by your family to speak formally, you probably had to learn consciously in school or even later in life (especially for less well off people whose education did not prepare them to use the formal register properly.)
@rickebuschcatherine2729 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Gideon....
@ghlscitel6714Ай бұрын
Register #5: Confrontational Yes or no?
@laszloleka751 Жыл бұрын
Mum: Yes, the register was much more appropriate but vegan? Not even fish!? Still no money coming to you son! Very good episode, it was good fun to watch!
@NinaFelwitchАй бұрын
I like "unfortunately" way too much to only use it in formal speech :D
@lucycarrington355910 ай бұрын
Loved it!!
@benbrown3778 Жыл бұрын
If you're not a native English speaker, and you like learning the language from TV, a courtroom drama will usually have the lot. Something like a Soap will not show you a realistic portrayal. Just my two penn’orth.
@lucacolombo7603 Жыл бұрын
That's the hardest aspect of the language to nail
@williamduncan7401 Жыл бұрын
It is paramount that I shall hereby happen to inform you that after extensive and thorough investigation of the aforementioned linguistic matter, it has been concluded unanimously that it most definitely is one of the aspects of the utmost difficulty that one can attempt to perfect.
@soundscape26 Жыл бұрын
When in doubt... go neutral. 😄
@katharinaangelazafarani7220Ай бұрын
in any language, I might add...
@edgarrodriguez8973 Жыл бұрын
Registers are difficult in every language, pragmatics is not easy. Even in my mother tongue, Spanish, I have the tendency to be quite formal, only in family or couple situations do I not use formal words or structures. Ahhh and when speaking in Brazilian Portuguese!
@lenyaeger9969Ай бұрын
While both are grammatically correct, "you know your wife better than me" means something completely different than "you know your wife better than I."
@mamymimma Жыл бұрын
Both interesting and amusing, which is the best combination to me 😊
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
Happy to hear you think that.
@besacciaestebanАй бұрын
Formal: "The officers failed to act to prevent fatalities" Informal/Real: "The police stood watching as people died"
@callaway5148Ай бұрын
Is spelling a different subject than grammar?
@norridinabdulkarim8633 Жыл бұрын
Hi teacher how are you.nice to see you
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
nice to see you too.
@cavesalamander6308 Жыл бұрын
He-he, I believe all of that dialogs (both initial and improved editions) are the result of AI creative work, aren't they? 🙂 Thank you for the video, excellent as always!
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
This time they were written by humans but the AI bot videos are coming soon.
@jari2018 Жыл бұрын
@@LetThemTalkTV - Ai would make the content less interesting
@michellef52011 ай бұрын
Anyone have a transcript? This as none
@IBakeBread Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your lessons. May i ask,if its not a secret, do you have any Armenian relatives in your family?
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I will ask them.
@manjirabanerjee7169 Жыл бұрын
Sir Gideon ,what should we do while checking students' answers? I have told them by far not to use object pronouns in sentences like the ones you mentioned -- those me and I issues.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
OK, answer this question: "Who's there?" is the answer "it's me" or "it is I"? The grammar "rule" says "it is I" is correct but absolutely nobody says that. It's more complex that saying "me" is wrong and "I" is correct
@manjirabanerjee7169 Жыл бұрын
@@LetThemTalkTV Thank you Sir . The problem is --most schools in my country ( India) still follow the traditional grammar book replete with 'rules' , and hence, both pupils and teachers get baffled from time to time.
@Nunaromedus Жыл бұрын
Thanks. I thought it were only 3 Registers. I forgot about the Intimate one.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
Actually there are more than four. You have for example the "frozen" or "ceremonial" register but I didn't cover them because they are almost never used in conversation.
@freddiemercury8700 Жыл бұрын
Gideon's new toster that comes with Wi-Fi is the dog's bollocks, it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's no brainer, I am having one. Now let's get to the nitty gritty ! How much do you want for it r kid ?
@OceanChild75 Жыл бұрын
Salam Alekum Baba 😂 you always slay me with your comments! I hope you are well & everything is alright in Casablanca x
@freddiemercury8700 Жыл бұрын
Ahhh! Look what the cat dragged in! The woman from birkenhead ! O'right luv ? Lovely jubbly ! Always a pleasure to hear from you. I am missing New Brighton ☹ Thanks for dropping a line. Much obliged and appreciated. Ta-ra and take care for now. Au revoir 👋
@OceanChild75 Жыл бұрын
@@freddiemercury8700 hahaha 🤣 believe me mate, that time a year you don’t wanna be in grey, cold and damp New Brighton! I’d rather be in sunny Morocco right now that’s for sure. Great victory for LFC on Sunday, Scousers were proper made up! Last time LFC played against United was in August and we got battered
@freddiemercury8700 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I was gonna mention it, but since you're a lady, I thought you wouldn't be interested in footy. Mo salah, oh Mo salah, is the handsome king of Scousers' land. Check Agadir weather for this weekend coming, the temperature will hit 32°C and it's only mid of March. The summer is already here! Happy days 😎😉🕺💃🕺💃 Shall I send you some scirocco from Morocco ? 😛😜😝
@OceanChild75 Жыл бұрын
@@freddiemercury8700 my husband is a Kopite so even though I’m not a fan of football I am very much aware of it hahaha 🤣 I do like Mo Salah, Konaté (he is from my neck of the woods you know haha my local boy) and Jurgen Klopp! I’ve heard rumours about Mo leaving LFC for PSG, I’d be gutted if he went. 32 degrees?! No way, I’m jealous mate!! I hope you make the most of it ☀️ It was quite sunny in Birko today though fairly cold 🥶 I had to wear my woolly hat, scarf and gloves! We got hail last night and it looks like it may snow later this week! What is a "scirocco"? I just googled it and all I found was a German car haha
@Juanvmailbox Жыл бұрын
Dear teacher: when I studied English decades ago, the infinitive form was done with the use of "to", e. g. "to be or not to be". Also the ing ending had the same function, e. g. "going to walk is healthy". But using both was a big mistake: "I like to going there", it was wrong for every teacher. Nevertheless, the last decade all native speakers are saying that: "I prefer to riding my bike". Everybody, including presidents and you are saying what was considered a mistake before. Do you have a video about it?
@hudsonsilver4482Ай бұрын
Probably one bluetooth toaster should be a better offer than a wifi toaster
@dingodog5677Ай бұрын
Informal register is not aloud in the modern workplace. Too many chances to get called out for a major thought crime and sacked or sent to jail.
@dingodog5677Ай бұрын
@@terencedenman702 oops I meant “not allowed aloud”😂🤣
@johnmbradfordАй бұрын
It's not a phrase - it's a sentence!
@Sauvageonne Жыл бұрын
I remember when MS Word was marking passive voice as incorrect all the time (as too convoluted). MS has lost this battle.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
it's true that the passive is overused, so I understand why Word flagged it.
@cleancoder383821 күн бұрын
4:46 "posisition" is no valid English word. I Wonder who else caught that (And I am no native English speaker)
@shakerbanumyrzakhanova6321 Жыл бұрын
👍👍👏👏
@ralphmarlow6627 Жыл бұрын
Speaking to politicians you use the term "Bigly" no?
@braidybecket8946Ай бұрын
What's a "Laartay"? 😁
@ildarmingazov2304 Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I am so in feel with those poor vegan boy that can't eat a food made by hand of his mum. Really.
@LetThemTalkTV Жыл бұрын
it's true but the animals are happy.
@helenemelonАй бұрын
Is register the same as code switching?
@leopard36cat Жыл бұрын
What he harping on bout now, Oi once walked under a ladder, an the very next day lorst a good litter o' pig an arl because oi fergot to crorse me fingers!. Yew take moi tip, marster, an alwis crorses yer finger under a ladder! yew all sat in that there reading room chapsing all the noight, an' when they finished arping they aint said nothing!. anyhows thar'll be rain afore midnight, yew see if thar ain't. dang cold march as they says A wet march makes a sad harvest!.
@lynnodonnell4764 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely never of that term, register. Was there a differant term Boomers would have learned in school?
@unarmoredwtf Жыл бұрын
i'll give you a thumbdown for the stupid wristband
@kerbicz Жыл бұрын
I'm giving you a thumb down for a stupid comment.
@vasylysapre8059 Жыл бұрын
Better give yourself two fingers, dear
@AMWE-gh7ti Жыл бұрын
I had to turn on captions to understand this guy is saying "Part one", horrible ☠️