Richard Dawkins: Evolution, Intelligence, Simulation, and Memes | Lex Fridman Podcast #87

[@lexfridman]

I really enjoyed this conversation with Richard. Here's the outline: 0:00 - Introduction 2:31 - Intelligent life in the universe 5:03 - Engineering intelligence (are there shortcuts?) 7:06 - Is the evolutionary process efficient? 10:39 - Human brain and AGI 15:31 - Memes 26:37 - Does society need religion? 33:10 - Conspiracy theories 39:10 - Where do morals come from in humans? 46:10 - AI began with the ancient wish to forge the gods 49:18 - Simulation 56:58 - Books that influenced you 1:02:53 - Meaning of life

[@MarcosBiga]

After this interview I am confident to say I love you Lex. You are a great asset to the civilization.

[@zazen69]

Do you regret singing that terrible "Joe Rogan" song yet?

[@randallr2174]

Lex, If you get Putin you will be the greatest Podcaster to ever live. This will define you as a man who potentially saved us from ourselves. You should use everything you can to get this done.

[@bkb04g]

Let me guess, you ‘really enjoyed your conversation with Richard’....?

[@avimohan6594]

*The Blind Watchmaker* is one of my all time favorite books! Thank you so much for this interview.

[@viaMac]

At this rate, I wouldn't be surprised if Lex interviews God himself for his 100th podcast

[@pooyakhodaparast9962]

Imagine if Feynman were alive!

[@Aleamanic]

I think that the ultimate Turing test will be an AGI fooling Lex in an interview ;-)

[@macraevallery3797]

I know, right

[@ianboelts]

lmaooo

[@katiemiaana]

For a lot of atheists he just has!

[@OrganicGreens]

You can tell Richard enjoyed the conversation by how he says thank you at the end. Not to mention his enthusiasm throughout. Great job

[@prof.m.ottozeeejcdecs9998]

He really did, didn't he?!

[@black_jack_meghav]

@Chris p true

[@eaglenebula2172]

Yeah I suppose Richard would be fine as long as he doesn't have to deal with stubborn flagrant ignorance & stupidity 😂

[@dud3man6969]

Lex has a great way of keeping the focus on his guests. He always comes across humble and non threatening to his guests.

[@beemo9]

After doing hundreds of interviews, saying "thank you" enthusiastically is automated . Having never heard of Lex before, i noticed Richard didn't seem particularly stimulated with many of the questions, especially the generic ones he gets asked a lot. Lex's slow rate of speech seemed to frustrate Richard at times.

[@TenzinT]

What a great quote: “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” ― Mark Twain

[@michaelb9940]

😂😂😂😂 be careful what you wish for!

[@user-cy9vd7rl4h]

A non sequitur and an antagonistic use of emojis, typifying an arrogant person of low intelligence and high immaturity.

[@ScottLive1]

Mark Twain

[@TheDifference862]

That does not make much sense to me. In order for something to be dead, it needs to be alive first. *Death is the moment something goes from alive to dead. The fear of death exists only when you are alive. You could not have known what it means or feels to be dead, since you didn't exist before. There was nothing to be had, nothing to be lost, which is the case when you live. And this were that fear comes from.

[@arnotheron6057]

Then Mark Twain was a fool.

[@johnames1987]

Came here following the Peterson "discussion" with Dawkins. Lex, you are an excellent interviewer. Thank you for letting Dr Dawkins hold the mike for almost the whole thing whilst probing and encouraging him to go deeper in interesting ways. Masterful, really. Thank you.

[@geoffreyhall2034]

I agree Lex Friedman is a great interviewer... he has humility honesty curiosity

[@gadpivs]

So basically, Lex's podcast is the "I like JRE but I don't watch it for the comedians or fighters" podcast. This is like when you're into a genre of music, but only for certain moments of certain songs, and then you discover an entire subgenre dedicated to just those moments. Nice.

[@rryanreid]

He interviewed Ryan hall......twice lol

[@funfun5656]

He and Joe actually both have very different styles but I like them both for different reasons as well as on the basis of mutual authenticity.

[@benlewis5312]

Lex loves martial arts almost as much as Joe does. He interviews plenty of fighters

[@tonyduncan9852]

Nice point.

[@Bminutes]

Yes this exactly lol

[@druthenberg01]

When I first listened to Lex on JRE i mistakenly thought he was boring and drab but now he's almost the only podcast I listen to now. He is actually super thoughtful and is able to speak on the same level as the great minds that come on the podcast. The mutual respect really creates a great atmosphere and allows the distinguished guests to feel at ease with going deep into their particular subject matter which is superb. Thank you Lex!

[@faiz.shaikh]

Lex has filled the hole created by jre leaving youtube

[@druthenberg01]

@@faiz.shaikh Exactly mate, spot on. I sometimes go over to spotify to see whats on JRE but tbh I was bored of the comedians and MMA guys anyway.

[@markb8468]

Totally agree! I love his guests

[@markb8468]

Honestly I thought he was either not overly intelligent (inspite of his position at MIT) or socially awkward. But he's thoughtful and relatable upon further listening. A good lesson.....don't make judgements about someone or something based upon 1st impressions.

[@Imightberiding]

I have had a similar conversion to belief in Lex Fridman.

[@nadesmond6029]

Man, I love the way Lex can precisely grasp what is being said and his ability to reiterate his point of view or his personal interpretations. And so the chain of thought doesn't just cut, and the conversation becomes one continuous wave from start to end. I don't think I've ever witnessed this before to this extent. And it's just so satisfying to watch-what a rare Gem.

[@scottwarren4998]

Dawkins is so obsessed with death and god. I used to like him but i start to dislike him more and more. Besides there are much more interesting things than evolution in my opinion.

[@timwatts9371]

@@scottwarren4998 Why are you posting that whiny little rant over and over again. Posting it once was pathetic enough

[@akjohnny5997]

@@scottwarren4998 what else is there really to talk about? chores?

[@scottwarren4998]

@@akjohnny5997 And why talk about evolution of all billions of things that exist in life?

[@akjohnny5997]

@@scottwarren4998 idk maybe cause its the origin of life? if that doesn't interest you go watch some anime or something 🤷

[@Nauct]

I appreciate your work, love the interviews you do with scientists. I watch you instead of Joe Rogan now

[@KaninTuzi]

That sounds like a wise trade

[@JR41174]

Why not both lol

[@MXC-hc7jm]

Jr is cringy and stupid af

[@phutureproof]

I watch both for that more balanced take on things.

[@vincentjoyhere]

JR is much more articulate in his questions and guiding the topic; an area where Lex is very weak. Often times I understand what the guests are speaking, but not what Lex is asking.

[@HecmarJayam]

79 years old and sharper than ever. Thanks for this interview!

[@Dubs2]

Lex Fridman is how old?! /s

[@fengshuimma9160]

Ninety seven I heard.

[@ssotkow]

Agreed, I'd dare say sharper and more eloquent than most of Lex's guests. Love Sir Richard Dawkins. His books God Delusion and Selfish Gene were the nails in coffin... closing my previous life of irrational, superstitious mindsets instilled by mainstream religiosity. Dawkins' introduced a more scientific, evidence based, and rational mode of thinking which liberated me from the conditioning of theological false narratives, and to think/live beyond the egocentric self. Sam Harris' literature also reinforced the unharnessing revelation to embrace and appreciate the life at the present moment.

[@lrfpv5292]

@@ssotkow Haha you are very funny, only fools say that there is no God.

[@lrfpv5292]

@Kitalia the kitsune ok boomer

[@EvaMillerKapKaDesign]

I wish this one was longer. Thank you Lex for all the podcasts. You are an incredible human being!

[@zachmccaleb7281]

Did u hear that last quote?? What he said he’d rather spend eternity under a general anesthetic which is what it will be… doesn’t this sound just like the mental programming of the movie the matrix?? I’d rather be delivered up in the tribulation than to live forever in this help

[@UnknownUser-nu8ny]

⁠@@zachmccaleb7281haha that’s not what he meant. General anesthetic is death. It is general because we all will face death, it is an anesthetic because it relives us of the pain and strife that one endured while a live. I hope this explanation was useful. What he said was pretty straightforward I think you may have overdone it with the analysis of it.

[@normanthrelfall2646]

Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” disappears before his eyes. Famous Evangelical atheist Richard Dawkins used to teach that the “best evidence for evolution” was that organisms; which were similar to each other have similar DNA. This is pure supposition and absolute speculation driven by a passion to obliterate God from the equation of life. Richard Dawkins claimed that genetic research proved Darwin’s tree of life; nothing could be further from the truth. These claims were made before we learned more about DNA and RNA and in 2009 he got his book published: “The Greatest Show on Earth” in which he taught that Darwin’s Tree of Life was supported by the pattern of resemblances, that you see when you compare genes. The fossil record does not support Darwin’s Tree of Life, because there is no evidence of transitional fossils in the actual earth’s geology demonstrating evolution. There is no evidence that plants and animals diversified from a Common Ancestor over millions of years, being due to imaginary evolution. In 2009, the same year, New Scientist magazine ran an article with the title: “Why Darwin was wrong about the Tree of Life.” In it, scientists stated that the Tree of Life was “mis-leading” because Darwin’s theory limits and even obscures the study of organisms and their ancestries end of quote. The “best evidence for creation” is the fossil record, finding only fully formed organisms in Cambrian rocks. Our technology has advanced to such a stage that we can now “read” the genes of many different species and it is even clearer now that Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” does not exist. Now scientists have sequenced a great number of genomes belonging to different organisms. Casey Luskin, Associated Director of the Center for Science and Culture, wrote for Evolution News, that Dawkins was wrong! Every gene does not deliver approximately the same Tree of Life end of quote. DNA research does not show a Tree of Life. But what is described as “bushes of life” meaning no branching as in Darwin’s Tree of Life, but organisms that reflect the fossil record throughout time with minor variations, these are attributed to kinds within species due to genetic variety until they went extinct. “Genes are dissimilar in their development and unique as they form into the embryos of different organisms. Ernest Haeckel German scientist tried it on; by drawing fraudulent embryos making them look alike, because he loved Darwin’s theory of evolution. At the University of Jena he was convicted of fraud in 1875. When asked why he had lied, he said it is necessary for us to believe in spontaneous generation: that everything made itself by random chance, because the alternative is Creation and that is unthinkable! A lot of people have a similar mind-set today, this is why evolution will not go away as a theory and be buried. It should be disqualified by the “scientific method” today, but there is wide spread indoctrination through the education system with the theory of evolution which should be abandoned, because there is no evidence to support such a theory which has outlived its usefulness. The indoctrination of evolution through the education system is a “back door” to promoting immoral behaviour within the populace. This is the aim and plan of the globalists to bring about chaos, anarchy and confusion, in short lawlessness, whereby they have a legitimate reason to use modern technology to mark and control the masses. It is simple, if you teach students there is no God to answer too, then why bother to behave! Create fear among the populace and they will be happy to except electronic monitoring by those in authority, but first they must create the environment and the people will look to those in authority for a solution: it is called Cause and Effect. The general public need to waken up and smell the coffee as there is a lot of corrupt manipulation going on by the elite billionaires, who are now controlling bank accounts, politics and the education system, where people are taught what to think, not how to think critically. There is a desire to take away your freedom of speech in relation to telling the truth.

[@rabbitskywalk3r]

it's somewhat nice to hear this humble conversation instead of seeing dawkins debating

[@ofAwxen]

You should see the one with Joe Rogan as well. It's a pretty friendly chat like this one.

[@Big_Red_Dork]

His discussions with Sam Harris are good too

[@meehoonoelfx1205]

@@ofAwxen 000

[@woody7652]

You can tell Richard really enjoyed this interview. Well done, Lex!

[@R.Tafolla]

The father of the memes! One of the four horsemen! The OG!

[@avimohan6594]

We shall, forever miss the inimitable Christopher Hitchens.

[@garthhamp-adams2346]

@@avimohan6594 Yes Sir!

[@thusspokeshabistari]

Rip Christopher, dearly missed horsemen

[@iamwhoyousayiam6773]

Looking around, I wonder if he has any regrets

[@mcd5778]

The Four Dorks*

[@leccy9901]

Coming back to watch this 2 years after I watched it was not a mistake. Lex asks great questions, gets the most out of richard. Really enjoyed Joe's podcast with him, but lex to me asked more poignant questions, and Richard seemed to enjoy the slightly more intelligent line of questions. Lex and Joe together have brought so much information, and great people to us all. I'm forever grateful.

[@danielmccarthy2445]

Same here, rewatching 2 years later ;-)

[@inga18256]

Same here :)

[@alexryan2521]

Well said

[@SpocksBro]

Richard, we're eagerly waiting for "Richards Dawkins reads friendly fan email" part 3.

[@markkeeper7771]

I'd pay for it

[@TheCommun3]

Lol ive been waiting for this moment half of my life

[@fredriksundberg4624]

@SpocksBro : And also wathing him reading up recieving hatemails is being funny as well. :-)

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

@@TheCommun3 How old are you? I'm not sure the math on that checks out.

[@BlockchainGhost]

Lex, you manage to have those intellectual giants mostly enjoy talking to you while educating the word. That by itself is a magnificent achievement. Congrats and thank you!!

[@subangovender1673]

lex is the worst iv seen..

[@caterinadelgalles8783]

Dawkins' mum is 100; may he live to that age!

[@PBL-50]

Thought the same thing! She died in 2019 one month before her 103rd birthday. Let's hope her son will have a similarly long life

[@qeva_]

I hope so, we really love this man

[@alexoolau]

As typical people of higher intelligence, Richard Dawkins suffers dunning kruger effect, who assumes everybody else can understand what he understands. Also low mental ability makes people think they are smarter than everybody else.

[@shadowdawg04]

Can't wait til he's fertilizer... 💩🤡💩

[@peterdembowy4459]

This man helped me leave religion. Thank you for having him on. 🙏

[@222ableVelo]

So now you're religiously non-religious. 😏

[@peterdembowy4459]

@@222ableVelo that makes absolutely zero sense. I am not religious in any way or in any sense of the word.

[@222ableVelo]

@@peterdembowy4459 Of course you're religious. You now belong to the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices -- namely the belief that all the religions are false. It usually entails the belief in evolution, but that's not always necessarily the case. I am curious, do you believe in evolution?

[@peterdembowy4459]

@@222ableVelo You’re changing the definition of religious to for your criteria… I am not religious in any traditional sense of the word. I don’t “believe” in anything. Evolution by natural selection is a scientific consensus, all the evidence I’m aware of points towards evolution being a fact, therefor I accept it as the most plausible explanation for the diversity of life on earth…

[@222ableVelo]

@@peterdembowy4459 Yes, you believe in evolution.

[@HenningBoerstad]

the random bottle of soy sauce in the background has a special place in my heart

[@justinoheat2]

racking my brain trying to think of what richard orders when he gets takeout sushi

[@nealtauss1715]

....Random.... how..?

[@JoakimWesterbring]

I was looking for this comment:)

[@maciejglodek2277]

kinda annoys me. might be some low ocd kicking in

[@pavel9652]

I noticed that too, lol, kikkoman ;) I switched to low sodium, the one with green cap. There is too much salt in Thai cuisine.

[@ded5736]

Missed the opportunity to ask him what his favorite memes are.

[@fermentedfruit]

@@UniverseWillProvide 🤣 fuck I wish I could’ve seen that

[@karimshebeika8010]

I guess "God" ? ^^

[@tord1508]

Imagine not asking the father of memes what his favorite meme is.

[@williamgill5286]

Aw piss I would eat one for 20 psshh

[@giotto_4503]

I wish Hitchens is still alive to speak on Podcasts like these.

[@Waywind420]

he is.

[@toucheturtle3840]

Christopher said enough

[@shadowdawg04]

Sadly we are left with this greenhouse gas bag Dawkins...💩🤡💩

[@glennmartin4043]

Richard always delivers such a beautiful delivery of the english language.

[@Buddfox]

See also: Christopher Hitchens.👌

[@phutureproof]

@@Buddfox You read my mind! I miss his insight to be honest, top bloke.

[@trinawebb1705]

Love me some Richard Dawkins....his voice is like music to my brain.

[@toniokettner4821]

@@Buddfox hitchens doesn't stand a chance

[@robertpreston7272]

'delivering a delivery' is pretty tasty English too.

[@dallinjc3]

Even as he gets into advanced age, Dawkins is still just as eloquent and well spoken as ever. Just a pleasure to listen to him speak on these topics.

[@michaelb9940]

Ok

[@macias7125]

nah he sounds like any typical college teacher using long words to sound smart even tho anything he says can literally be understood by anyone lol

[@rando_guy]

@@macias7125 i can see where you're coming from tbh idk much about him to know a lot i was reading one of his books tho, and it's pretty interesting it's nothing groundbreaking in my opinion but a good collection of thoughts and ideas on the topic

[@joegordon-p6x]

@@macias7125 only smart people understand Dawkins, the religious retreat into their bullshit world of idiotic explanations

[@ramakrishnagodugunur195]

What a great teacher! Thanks a lot Lex and Richard Dawkins. Dawkins rekindles our desire for wonder in nature everytime.

[@TerryRosen]

I have watched countless interviews with Richard Dawkins. Rarely do I hear such interesting questions. Richard’s enthusiasm was refreshing to see as well. This was a pleasure to watch, Lex I hope you get to interview Prof. Dawkins again. PS. the natural light where you recorded this is nice.

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[@cynic252]

really, he has been asked these questions many times

[@nenmaster5218]

"I like Dawkins but he keeps saying the same stuff all the time. Nothing ever new." Well, yeah, then watch Professor Dave Explains and his amazing videos, doing things like catching Con-Artists, debunking Science-Denial, spreading Truth.

[@piertinence]

@@nenmaster5218 A Darwinian evolutionary creation myth is. a religious belief in its own right. According to Darwinist evangelist Dawkins natural selection, the modern pagan cult main deity, would have taken some bacterial life forms through billions of years of an evolutionary journey, resulting in the creation of all living creatures on earth, Here is a lecture by the darwinist evangelist as to how the atheistic miracle was made possible. "Far from being a difficulty peculiar to Darwinism, the astronomic improbability of eyes and knees, enzymes and elbow joints and all the other living wonders is precisely the problem that any theory of life must solve, and that Darwinism uniquely does solve. It solves it by breaking the improbability up into small, manageable parts, smearing out the luck needed, going round the back of Mount Improbable and crawling up the gentle slopes, inch by million-year inch." Pretending that billions of years would solve the issue the astronomic improbability is clearly unscientific nonsense. Dawkins pretending that the human eye, the human heart and other organs in our body would only be presenting an illusion of design is also beyond stupid.

[@nenmaster5218]

@@piertinence Yeah, Evolution isnt a Religion, only the silliest of people think so. Here, if you have intellectual INtegrity, surely you will view and examine and take a deep, long Look at my Proof, right? As Proof, i cite Professor Dave Explains and his various videos, starting with his video on the Discovery Institute and on James Tour. But i also rest my Case with theMention of Forrest valkai.

[@adamplusanon]

I'm in awe of how this dude manages to get all the big guys on his show. Incredible

[@bradIeyyy]

He’s Jewish

[@skiboltskie]

@@bradIeyyy whats that got to do with anything?

[@davidbanner6230]

David Banner An ’Upside’ of Atheism. A question sometimes asked, by people probing the motivation of Atheists is : Why, if as they claim, they care enough to want to bring “truth” to misguided followers of religion, yet their caring is not enough involve them charitable work? Such work is almost exclusively left to people of religious persuasion? However, there may be a facet to Atheism which seems to have escaped the reasoning of Atheist, in their public debates, defending the Atheist position? It is this: Setting aside the Charlatans who pretend Atheism as a convenient way of being important, there is something noble about Atheists who are sincere in what they believe, yet still do good works, knowing that there can be no spiritual rewards for what they do, as they do not believe in anything….

[@timwatts9371]

@@davidbanner6230 You’re spouting the usual smug, lying nonsense that self regarding Christians always do about charity. In fact the majority of aid and charity is dispensed by secular organisations but religious people tend to be incredibly self regarding and pompous so they make much more of a big deal about any charity work they do. Your repellent arrogance was also displayed by the moronic comment about atheists not believing in anything. The fact we don’t share your comforting religious delusions does not mean we don’t believe in anything. There, I’ve put you right on two issues now. No need to thank me.

[@Itskahuna]

@@davidbanner6230 Interesting position - although I have always found the argument that religious persons are inherently more charitable to likely be incorrect, or at best, misguided. I would absolutely concur that data supports the position that religious persons tend to both donate financially and volunteer their time in support of charity at a rate higher than that of atheists. Data seems to suggest this rate is in the single digits - but I don't think the variance is where the argument falls apart. It's who they contribute to - and in that regard, religious persons tend to donate a majority of their overall contributions to their retrospective religious institutions and their time. This seems to be less of an act of pure altruism, and perhaps a bit more self-serving, whereas this bias in selection does not hold. So, even in that small percentage of high contributions by religious persons, based upon the overall rate of their average donations to their own religious institutions - one could easily posit that the entirety of the difference between their contributions vs those of atheists is entirely to their own religious institution and self-serving contributions.

[@legopunk2655]

What I love about Dawkins most is he's savagely cold hearted. This man has not one second for spirituality. EVERYTHING in us can be explained by evolution from the liver to the love of music to the seeking of god. He's 100% right 100% of the time because he says nothing that is not supported by fact. The ULTIMATE scientist. A truly magnificent intelligence. Oh, and he likes soy sauce.

[@lunabetul9590]

You know what, everybody's making looongest long podcasts and videos but none of them outlines the phases for the audience. Its very indulgent and smart to add that. I dont click to long videos because of this reason. I think you're great communicator, good job.

[@onestopcop2077]

i didnt know you could note the times in the video and separate the timeline like that, good organisational work dude! :)

[@rvh9876]

Lex seems to be very aware of our limited time and he just wants to be a beacon to express interesting ideas to move us forward. I honestly believe if that if he could find a way to to get thoughtful answers from his guests in context without being on camera he would do it.

[@Powerofthepickle]

What a legend. Dawkins has shaped perspectives on religion and intelligent life for me and many others

[@danxdanx8877]

He's a disgusting leftist though, he does a lot of damage to society.

[@TadValente]

@@danxdanx8877 how?

[@RobotNinjaDestroyer]

Atheism is a religion. The definition of atheism is a lack of a belief in God. If it was just that it wouldn't be a religion, but it's not just that. Atheism goes well beyond that. Atheists have their own holy book, Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion. Atheists have their own church, reason rally and atheist clubs at college. They have their own preachers, youtube atheists. They have their own evangelists, youtube atheists. They have their own denominations, atheism plus, anti theists, skeptics, humanists. They have their own belief in miracles, the big bang theory. They have their own propaganda. They have their own political agenda, taking in God we trust off of money, teaching evolution in schools, gay rights, abortion. Richard Dawkins wrote a 500 page book about how much he doesn't believe in God. That's like writing a book about not collecting stamps.

[@jazzochannel]

@Connor CookI have never heard or read Dawkins' arguments as being pro-eugenigs. You are conjuring this up. With that said - people are not created equal. Get over it and make the best of it. Don't deny it.

[@TrueThanny]

@Connor Cook You've been reading far beyond your capacity for understanding. He said nothing whatsoever like what you're describing.

[@HughWoo]

Richard is such an incredible man and thinker. If only everyone on the planet was had as smart as he we would be in such better shape.

[@normanthrelfall2646]

Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” disappears before his eyes. Famous Evangelical atheist Richard Dawkins used to teach that the “best evidence for evolution” was that organisms; which were similar to each other have similar DNA. This is pure supposition and absolute speculation driven by a passion to obliterate God from the equation of life. Richard Dawkins claimed that genetic research proved Darwin’s tree of life; nothing could be further from the truth. These claims were made before we learned more about DNA and RNA and in 2009 he got his book published: “The Greatest Show on Earth” in which he taught that Darwin’s Tree of Life was supported by the pattern of resemblances, that you see when you compare genes. The fossil record does not support Darwin’s Tree of Life, because there is no evidence of transitional fossils in the actual earth’s geology demonstrating evolution. There is no evidence that plants and animals diversified from a Common Ancestor over millions of years, being due to imaginary evolution. In 2009, the same year, New Scientist magazine ran an article with the title: “Why Darwin was wrong about the Tree of Life.” In it, scientists stated that the Tree of Life was “mis-leading” because Darwin’s theory limits and even obscures the study of organisms and their ancestries end of quote. The “best evidence for creation” is the fossil record, finding only fully formed organisms in Cambrian rocks. Our technology has advanced to such a stage that we can now “read” the genes of many different species and it is even clearer now that Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” does not exist. Now scientists have sequenced a great number of genomes belonging to different organisms. Casey Luskin, Associated Director of the Center for Science and Culture, wrote for Evolution News, that Dawkins was wrong! Every gene does not deliver approximately the same Tree of Life end of quote. DNA research does not show a Tree of Life. But what is described as “bushes of life” meaning no branching as in Darwin’s Tree of Life, but organisms that reflect the fossil record throughout time with minor variations, these are attributed to kinds within species due to genetic variety until they went extinct. “Genes are dissimilar in their development and unique as they form into the embryos of different organisms. Ernest Haeckel German scientist tried it on; by drawing fraudulent embryos making them look alike, because he loved Darwin’s theory of evolution. At the University of Jena he was convicted of fraud in 1875. When asked why he had lied, he said it is necessary for us to believe in spontaneous generation: that everything made itself by random chance, because the alternative is Creation and that is unthinkable! A lot of people have a similar mind-set today, this is why evolution will not go away as a theory and be buried. It should be disqualified by the “scientific method” today, but there is wide spread indoctrination through the education system with the theory of evolution which should be abandoned, because there is no evidence to support such a theory which has outlived its usefulness. The indoctrination of evolution through the education system is a “back door” to promoting immoral behaviour within the populace. This is the aim and plan of the globalists to bring about chaos, anarchy and confusion, in short lawlessness, whereby they have a legitimate reason to use modern technology to mark and control the masses. It is simple, if you teach students there is no God to answer too, then why bother to behave! Create fear among the populace and they will be happy to except electronic monitoring by those in authority, but first they must create the environment and the people will look to those in authority for a solution: it is called Cause and Effect. The general public need to waken up and smell the coffee as there is a lot of corrupt manipulation going on by the elite billionaires, who are now controlling bank accounts, politics and the education system, where people are taught what to think, not how to think critically. There is a desire to take away your freedom of speech in relation to telling the truth.

[@bombrman1994]

Richard Dawkins filled up a void in my life. I never experienced having a grandpa and he was here on youtube felt so much love, care, and honesty. Imagine having Richard Dawkins as your grandpa, I would spend all weekends and after school at his place. Finish homework and start bombarding him with questions. I know for sure he would never say stop asking questions.

[@BOZ_11]

"I never experienced having a grandpa and he was here on youtube felt so much love, care, and honesty" - Touch grass

[@thesprawl2361]

@@Anus88 Richard is a nerd himself. That's a very weird thing to post.

[@thesprawl2361]

@@BOZ_11 'sincerity is gay huh huh'

[@bombrman1994]

@@Isaiah-wt1fg and what do yo I suggest a holy book or divine power 😂

[@proudatheist2042]

I am glad that you found Dr. Dawkins to fill the void in your life.

[@nebulag5197]

Can we please take a moment to appreciate how far our guy Lex has come over the past few months!👌

[@dr.heisenberg3707]

Richard Dawkins is a world treasure. A living Legend. Been 5years since I came across his works and his life...I can't admire him more for his contributions to science and our society and our civilization as a whole.

[@rhysknight8681]

I'm so glad this is a common opinion in this crowd

[@shadowdawg04]

@@rhysknight8681 It's not fanboy..

[@shadowdawg04]

The world has a chance to move into broad sunlit uplands... upon his demise - and hopefully soon!

[@rhysknight8681]

@@shadowdawg04 Sorry, when I'm said "this crowd" I meant intelligent, thoughtful people. I wasn't referring to you.

[@shpongle7322]

Lex this is legitimately one of Richards best interviews. Great job man

[@karimshebeika8010]

I feel like Lex misses a few important points during the meme section. Or he at least doesnt ask the right questions. It is not an easy topic to understand so I dont blame him, but I guess if he prepared a little better this section could have been awesome

[@ObjectiveZoomer]

Holy s***. How do you on your 87th podcast get a world renowned figure like Richard Dawkins? You're really doing something right!

[@MrChannelnamehere]

Lex is on a roll. According to his reveal on Rogan's podcast recently, he has a 3 hour interview with Eric Weinstein coming up soon too. Yesssss so good

[@DaNuker]

"The non random survival of randomly generated codes" thats a cool way of putting it.

[@raresmircea]

D.Numesh Another cool way of putting it would be to say: *it’s as if nature constantly throws out hypotheses about what design is best suited to survive and make viable copies of itself given various local conditions. These hypotheses are empirically (and mercilessly) tested leaving behind only those that stood the requirements of the environment.* Luckily evolution itself evolves, and the rules by which new patterns are created are destined to suffer modifications. If we are to believe the majority of scientists, there’s nothing special about brain matter as opposed to all other matter, meaning that in theory we can eventually make healthy happy beings without having to put everything through the savage test of survival. Perhaps the noblest goal of civilization is to transcend the paradigm of the "randomly generated" and achieve "intelligently and wisely generated".

[@williamseaton6730]

This “theory” is raw philosophy, supported by very limited empirical information, with most adherents unwilling to consider the option of “I don’t know” as a viable response as to the “mechanism” that caused and supports life.

[@RobotNinjaDestroyer]

Atheism is a religion. The definition of atheism is a lack of a belief in God. If it was just that it wouldn't be a religion, but it's not just that. Atheism goes well beyond that. Atheists have their own holy book, Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion. Atheists have their own church, reason rally and atheist clubs at college. They have their own preachers, youtube atheists. They have their own evangelists, youtube atheists. They have their own denominations, atheism plus, anti theists, skeptics, humanists. They have their own belief in miracles, the big bang theory. They have their own propaganda. They have their own political agenda, taking in God we trust off of money, teaching evolution in schools, gay rights, abortion. Richard Dawkins wrote a 500 page book about how much he doesn't believe in God. That's like writing a book about not collecting stamps.

[@raresmircea]

William Seaton Evolution isn’t concerning itself with the cause of life. For that you should search for the work of people like Jeremy England or Terrence Deacon who use physics, mainly thermodynamics, to explain the emergence of living organisms. It’s a nascent field but it points to the fact that life emerges *precisely* due to entropy, not in spite of it. Knowing history (how science plowed again and again and again through all the neigh-sayers who maintained that nothing can be understood because everything is divine magic) it’s only common sense to believe that abiogenesis is likely to have a scientific explanation within a few decades to a few centuries.

[@williamlowry8809]

@SpongeBob Imagination thanks you for the insight "SpongeBob Imagination"

[@blipstat]

Lex Fridman is so sharp and intelligent a person. There are few interviewers that can hold their ground with Dawkins. Enjoyable to see one that really can meet Richard on a good and interesting level.

[@tactileslut]

Why does he sound bored, maybe stoned?

[@plica06]

I've watched a lot of Richard Dawkins interviews. This might be the most satisfying. Lex creates a kind of calm energy with Richard so the conversation just flows.

[@TheKrazyLobster]

I have no idea why it took me so long to learn about Lex's existence, but I've been binging this channel for two days.

[@billybobobenner]

Microsoft will be happy.

[@anshulrai6261]

You've outdone yourself, Lex!

[@ashlierenefahl]

Favorite experience listening to a conversation. Every time something was said that created a question or new thought in my mind, one of you immediately followed in addressing that next thought. Felt so immersive.

[@ansarikashif7]

Absolutely mesmerizing to listen to Richard Dawkins. Thanks Lex for bringing this to us.

[@gregspeers1215]

Awesome to see Dawkins feisty self again. He had a huge impact on world view in my 20s that continue to guide me today.

[@hameem6845]

I think this is probably the best interview of Richard Dawkins that I've seen. Mostly it's just him having to interact with idiots who are questioning facts, so this was refreshing.

[@dakrontu]

I am amazed by how many interviews Lex Friedman has done and look forward to watching them all. Lex has the advantage, as an interviewer, of being very intelligent, understanding what the interviewees will be talking about, and also doing the due diligence, preparing himself well for the interviews.

[@hamodi20091]

I didn’t forward the ad at the beginning because of the respect he’s showing for viewers

[@curiosguy9852]

This is the one I've been waiting for!! Only Ray Kurzweil left now.

[@prraoable]

@@TheReferrer72 That would be amazing - it would be interesting to see how they carry it out though because Geoff Hinton never sits down

[@pazuzil]

Lex got Ray on his show about 2 years ago

[@DUTYcallsMRswift]

Lex, my boy, you are really killing the game man. I love your podcasts, keep it up!!

[@travisgrant5608]

Richard Dawkins ... One of the most brilliant minds on planet earth today. Thank you Lex! 💓👍💓

[@JR-ju3kj]

Well said.I love listening to people who are smarter than me talk! It's a great way to make yourself smarter- if that makes any sense! Ha! Ha!

[@JR-ju3kj]

@#ILoveAsianWomen Why is it a low standard? You would disagree with the statement that Dawkins is one of the most brilliant minds on planet earth today?

[@ceceroxy2227]

@@JR-ju3kj Dawkins is certainly not a brilliant mind in the least, he is a popularizer, he is an absolute joke when it comes to actually any intellectual philosophical discourse. He just plays to the choir for the atheists that desire a Godless world.

[@osp69420]

This was the first ever lex posdact i 'rewound' and listened to again in full. Get Dawkins back on sometime in the near future :)

[@KillerChickn]

This has been one of the best youtube channels I've ever found. Thank you Lex, for your interviews, guests, and great interviewing process with such interesting questions.

[@stojadinovicdushan]

Dawkins is my hero, I feel privileged that I’ve come across him when God Delusion aired on BBC. He took me on an intellectual journey lasting decades, introduced me to late Christopher Hitchens who also had a life-changing influence on me and I am SO chuffed to for the first time ever discover that Dawkins ALSO thinks that Contact is an important book to read - literally beyond any doubt the most important piece of fiction I have ever read!

[@vipersb1]

Dawkins, Hitches, and Harris are my holy Trinity. I haven't read Contact, but your comment has inspired me to read it. I thank you.

[@RayZde]

All my heroes

[@ceceroxy2227]

@@vipersb1 In the end, like everyone they will meet their maker. All self absorbed naive arrogant fools in the end.

[@mikeymyers9617]

@@ceceroxy2227 What maker would that be?

[@-ChrisD]

​@@vipersb1 *Unholy

[@karlosjeffers4791]

Just stop and take a minute to truly appreciate existence of EVERYTHING, even the stupendous improbability of your very own existence based on what we know about the natural world and the universe. Everything that had to happen for you to be even here today. It is truly mind blowing. Science is the only reason I can appreciate life in this way and I thank inspirational people like Richard Dawkins for this gift.

[@userwl2850]

We are going to die.. and that makes us the lucky ones.

[@LoisSharbel]

What a marvelous gift this interview is! Thank you for all your work and for stretching our minds with these discussions.

[@normanthrelfall2646]

Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” disappears before his eyes. Famous Evangelical atheist Richard Dawkins used to teach that the “best evidence for evolution” was that organisms; which were similar to each other have similar DNA. This is pure supposition and absolute speculation driven by a passion to obliterate God from the equation of life. Richard Dawkins claimed that genetic research proved Darwin’s tree of life; nothing could be further from the truth. These claims were made before we learned more about DNA and RNA and in 2009 he got his book published: “The Greatest Show on Earth” in which he taught that Darwin’s Tree of Life was supported by the pattern of resemblances, that you see when you compare genes. The fossil record does not support Darwin’s Tree of Life, because there is no evidence of transitional fossils in the actual earth’s geology demonstrating evolution. There is no evidence that plants and animals diversified from a Common Ancestor over millions of years, being due to imaginary evolution. In 2009, the same year, New Scientist magazine ran an article with the title: “Why Darwin was wrong about the Tree of Life.” In it, scientists stated that the Tree of Life was “mis-leading” because Darwin’s theory limits and even obscures the study of organisms and their ancestries end of quote. The “best evidence for creation” is the fossil record, finding only fully formed organisms in Cambrian rocks. Our technology has advanced to such a stage that we can now “read” the genes of many different species and it is even clearer now that Dawkins’ “Best Evidence for Evolution” does not exist. Now scientists have sequenced a great number of genomes belonging to different organisms. Casey Luskin, Associated Director of the Center for Science and Culture, wrote for Evolution News, that Dawkins was wrong! Every gene does not deliver approximately the same Tree of Life end of quote. DNA research does not show a Tree of Life. But what is described as “bushes of life” meaning no branching as in Darwin’s Tree of Life, but organisms that reflect the fossil record throughout time with minor variations, these are attributed to kinds within species due to genetic variety until they went extinct. “Genes are dissimilar in their development and unique as they form into the embryos of different organisms. Ernest Haeckel German scientist tried it on; by drawing fraudulent embryos making them look alike, because he loved Darwin’s theory of evolution. At the University of Jena he was convicted of fraud in 1875. When asked why he had lied, he said it is necessary for us to believe in spontaneous generation: that everything made itself by random chance, because the alternative is Creation and that is unthinkable! A lot of people have a similar mind-set today, this is why evolution will not go away as a theory and be buried. It should be disqualified by the “scientific method” today, but there is wide spread indoctrination through the education system with the theory of evolution which should be abandoned, because there is no evidence to support such a theory which has outlived its usefulness. The indoctrination of evolution through the education system is a “back door” to promoting immoral behaviour within the populace. This is the aim and plan of the globalists to bring about chaos, anarchy and confusion, in short lawlessness, whereby they have a legitimate reason to use modern technology to mark and control the masses. It is simple, if you teach students there is no God to answer too, then why bother to behave! Create fear among the populace and they will be happy to except electronic monitoring by those in authority, but first they must create the environment and the people will look to those in authority for a solution: it is called Cause and Effect. The general public need to waken up and smell the coffee as there is a lot of corrupt manipulation going on by the elite billionaires, who are now controlling bank accounts, politics and the education system, where people are taught what to think, not how to think critically. There is a desire to take away your freedom of speech in relation to telling the truth.

[@tonysuffolk]

One of the smartest men of our time.

[@primeminister1040]

Nope

[@maxrophage8384]

“One of the smartest men of our time who denies the idea of a creator but endorsed the validity of a simulation theory which would have to be programmed and all intelligence and thought is actually not within us but is part of some transcendent intelligence but not God” lmao he’s so diluted he can’t see his own hypocrisy

[@samuelbaker6661]

Diluted

[@Sha-dukes]

@@maxrophage8384 Misguided Dawkins over here labeling other misguided people as misguided. No moon landings. Its not even debatable.

[@redpanda2961]

Nope

[@Maridsp]

I just wanna let you know how much you inspire me every single day when I watch your podcast. I send to my friends and they all love you, You are humble and fascinating smart. I am you fan and I love hearing you! I wish there was more people like you on this planet. Thank you for existing!

[@swamashijudbedolofritt4448]

When it comes to biology prof Dawkins has a way to explain nature in a way that is so eye opening. Love all his books. A true ambassador to science and a true inspiration.

[@Itskahuna]

I truly loved that you ended this podcast with the opening paragraph of Unweaving The Rainbow - albeit not the first of Dawkin's books I had read (The God Delusion takes that slot) it was the second, and more importantly,, the most influential. Not influential solely by its content or profoundness, I would argue this award goes to The Selfish Gene, but because reading it led me to read all of his other works. This paragraph so greatly moved me - I regularly pick up my copy off the shelf and read just this opening. There is something profoundly beautiful about it

[@thesprawl2361]

TGD changed my life. It made me realise how unsatisfied I'd been with the received way of looking at the world, and how many niggling frustrations there were when I heard people talk about things like religion, morality, science, truth, even politics. It's like there had been a pebble in my shoe, but I had never noticed it because it had always been there. And I read the book and said to myself...'what the fuck am I doing walking around with this pebble in my shoe? Why haven't I taken it out?'.

[@armpitwigs]

Totally agree about the ending, very powerful words (albeit abridged by Fridman) that always bring a lump to my throat. Often recite them (now memorised) during philosophical discussions with friends - everyone goes very quiet. It was written as a eulogy and I've asked for it to be read at my funeral too.

[@Basieeee]

Man I love Richard Dawkins. Him and Christopher Hitchens are great minds. I remember listening to hours of their videos/speeches, and realized we are really in this bitch materialistically, and how crazy evolution is.

[@handsomemonkeyking5299]

Dawkins and Hitchens appreciators are the best kind of people

[@singlecellorganism13]

@@handsomemonkeyking5299 especially the theistic ones

[@michil75]

Highly recommend Dawkins' book - the God Delusion. Even when you are a religious person, especially when you are a religious person. Thank you Lex and Richard !!

[@champ6277]

no thanks

[@categories5066]

That book is an embarrasment. His main arguement is "who created God?". Like seriously, that's what kids in 3rd grade ask. That's the best Dawkins has to offer in his massive book. EVen atheist philosophers said that that book is "horrible". Dawkins needs to stay in his expertize of biology and stay out of philosophy and religion

[@timwatts9371]

@@categories5066 " His main arguement is "who created God?" Don't be so stupid. That is just one of the point he raises. It's painfully obvious you were too lazy to actually read the book and you're just repeating the angry whining from Christians that the book generated. Talk about something being an embarrassment. And contrary to your infantile sneering the question of who created God is entirely pertinent and is never truly addressed by theists. As you prove so well by just spewing out a pathetic sneer at the question. But I love the snivelling about Dawkins staying within his expertise when we are constantly inundated with laughably stupid and ignorant comments about science from theists who know nothing about it.

[@geraldbutler5484]

@@champ6277 Don’t be scared it will enlighten you. Take away societal and parental indoctrination and religion ceases to exist. Grow up in the woods or the remote desert and a god Is irrelevant to your life.

[@geraldbutler5484]

@@champ6277 Don’t be scared it will enlighten you. Take away societal and parental indoctrination and religion ceases to exist. Grow up in the woods or the remote desert and a god Is irrelevant to your life.

[@Agnes135]

Crazy to think Dawkins coined the term MEME. Yes, a weird yet wonderful fact

[@Loddfafnisodr]

No shittlord better fitting.

[@Agnes135]

@@aleks-wy6uf Well it is actually true, the selfish gene was published in 1976.

[@aseri93]

@@aleks-wy6uf pretty wack ay

[@bmxt939]

You can also call him Dankins. I will now find my way out...of a gene pool.

[@PhilippeLarcher]

this word is a meme on its own

[@Dave004]

Always admired and appreciated Richard Dawkins and his work.

[@scottwarren4998]

Dawkins is so obsessed with death and god. I used to like him but i start to dislike him more and more. Besides there are much more interesting things than evolution in my opinion.

[@timwatts9371]

@@scottwarren4998 You’re humiliating yourself little fella

[@scottwarren4998]

​@@timwatts9371 Are you fat or something, my "big" fella?

[@shadowdawg04]

@@timwatts9371 Says the simp! 💩🤡💩

[@annier6835]

@@scottwarren4998 Is that what you’re hearing? Maybe death and god are your “obsessions” not his.

[@appLord1]

Lex sounds like his voice is trying to put his face to sleep

[@grantm6514]

Hit the > key and he wakes up, and Richard sounds younger. (1.25 speed)

[@tanhtsung961]

UPDATE: some technical difficulties.. Link and promo code COMING SOON!!

[@richardmaness3499]

@@grantm6514 Great advice. That made it much better.

[@seanmichael8202]

@@grantm6514; Haha, dude. That’s amazing 👍

[@boblevine104]

I was about to comment that Lex sounded kinda “slurry”. 1.25 x speed sounds much better

[@jesseleavitt2818]

This podcast continues to exceed my expectations

[@kylemaritz4673]

The selfish gene was one of the most profound science books I have ever read - a complete decoupling of my spiritual livelihood.

[@profkg6613]

This is a thundering discussion, esp for someone who is listening to Dawkins for the first time.

[@yourself88xbl]

Lex I love how you keep such an open mind about science. I've always felt like science was one of the most powerful tools we have but not a language which we can reduce all the phenomenon in the universe.

[@FrankReif]

Hi Lex, get David Sloan Wilson on your podcast to talk about Multilevel Selection. Dawkins is on the gene level selection end of the spectrum, Wilson on the group level side of the debate. It's mindblowing to think of human intelligence as being a function of ever larger and more co-operative groups being able to outcompete smaller or less co-operative groups through cultural evolution - starting from strands of DNA to multiceluar organism (where gene centric Dawkins stops), up through tribes, city states, nation states etc via cultural evolution. With different cultures allowing for larger more co-operative group being able to outcompete smaller groups or less co-operative groups - so you get a selection pressure. Religion can be seen as a form in group identity to compete with out groups despite them not being factually true. The end point of human evolution would be when our species becomes a fully eusocial species that cooperating at the world level. Perfect content for your channel.

[@zabity]

through atoms, particles, things, bodies, groups, corporations, cities, states, alliences, ideologies, global societies, interplanetary civilisations, systems, galaxies, universa, to... don't know, infinitely small particles in something other and so on both ways and all that in just 3 dimensions with added time function

[@marzx13]

Thanks Lex, really appreciate these amazing guests you keep lining up. Would love to know your process for outreach and sourcing them. I can't believe the caliber and quality - keep it up

[@dashifoo]

Always enjoy listening to Professor Dawkins.

[@Terraproject]

You have become my favorite podcaster to listen to while doing analytical chemistry homework, your intellect and that of your guest somehow helps me focus on tedious work. Thanks Lex!

[@francmittelo6731]

"They (Flat Earth People) talk the same nonsense to each other" LOL

[@FactChitanda]

You can read his contempt for religion and flat earthers from the words he uses to describe them. :(

[@marcosanaya9540]

its like they have their own language

[@birlove1471]

A superb interview .. maybe the most relaxed and engaging I've ever seen the great Richard Dawkins, he appeared open to exploring alternative ideas too with Lex, simply as he recognised that the man is a thoughtful intelligent good guy and wasn't poking fun in any way, just curious. I loved watching this conversation I must say. Thank you.

[@Griimbergen]

K lnA sa vno

[@Griimbergen]

I’ve

[@MikkoRantalainen]

30:10 I currently think that the major selling point of all religions is to not to have to say "we don't know". For some reason introducing supernatural as the "explanation" is less frightening for many people than saying "we don't know".

[@koodauskanava9096]

Oh wow. I thought Dawkins stopped doing interviews. Must watch.

[@LouisGedo]

*Excellent interview with one of the most insightful scientists in the world*

[@williamsutherland1175]

Lex, you are in point of fact the future of “smart people talking to smart people” media. You own the space if ya want it. One note- if ya could rock the Charlie Rose aesthetic with the empty, black background of the intro into the interview, your work would pop in a real and true way.

[@doctor_owl]

I wish I could pin this comment myself. This is a fantastic idea. I hope Lex will take the black background into consideration!

[@V1kte]

I think that would be more trouble than it's worth. Now he's filming the interviews wherever is convenient for him and the guest. To have a blank background, he'd either need look for a relatively blank space for filming, or to put a lot of effort into editing. Since the podcast is his secondary passion, I don't think that would be a good use of his effort.

[@badrdaki1554]

You think Richard is smart

[@kevinn1158]

I love Richard. He's just so bloody sharp. Clean, & logical. That's why I loved watching Carl Sagan talk.

[@darrello9478]

A creator behind everything is more logical than big bang and evolution. All Dawkins do is to speculate.

[@kevinn1158]

@@darrello9478 oh ok. I'd call it incredibly lazy.

[@darrello9478]

@@kevinn1158 I see your point

[@kevinn1158]

@@darrello9478 think about the how the people thousands of years ago saw their world and the limited technology they had. Even now, we are still just starting to have the capability of seeing far into the universe. And millions have died over their belief that maybe a book written who knows when has everything right… books full of hatred toward others. People just seem desperate for east answers to the immense complexity of our existence.

[@darrello9478]

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[@DeadJoe]

One of the greatest conversations I have ever seen, thank you Lex and Richard.

[@drewtuten1562]

This was one of my favorite discussions. Richard has such a unique view on human behavior and his observations on ideas resembling both genetic and viral transmission was mind-blowing. Ive never thought of it quite like that.. Folks, take this to heart and understand how important it is to get your data from reliable sources and most things that seem highly improbable, probably are just that. Fanciful stories are great, I love The Lord of the Rings, it doesn’t mean I want us all to start toting swords and looking to attack Mordor.

[@neo70]

Thanks for being you Lex! You've captured my interest in AI and I'm now enrolling in a BSCI in Computer Science

[@matt-g-recovers]

The fact that consistently people will say to Lex that he has a good point or he will stump them for a minute is awesome :) Great interview both and thank you.

[@anttihilja]

I have to mention the soy sauce in the background.

[@miriam7779]

Kikkoman soy sause👍

[@zachmcclure8814]

Glad I found your comment because I couldn't believe no one would mention it

[@TonezzUK]

@@zachmcclure8814 Same

[@dividendwave]

was looking for the comment on that Kikkoman bottle. Sushi for lunch? Non random evolutionary selection from randomly generated food from around the world?

[@GH29111]

Lex is trying to up his estrogen intake

[@casamir1]

Lex asking amazing questions here. This is Dawkins brain content I've never seen anywhere else.

[@chrisbirch4150]

Yeah he even touched on Darwin a few times

[@MKTElM]

Dawkins is a great mind, sharp, intelligent and with laudable humility. One has to admire him regardless if one agrees or disagrees with him.

[@jaroslavcech225]

As always, an absolutely fantastic conversation! Thank you for asking great questions, Lex!

[@pavelchorda8425]

The shortness of view of this guest is amazing, specially in the abstract level.

[@SingularityAGI]

Lex you should ask all your guests what books has a great impact on their life. Will get few book recommendations to read 😝

[@khj5582]

Good idea, but as you can see, it becomes tedious to listen to.

[@zeljjko70766]

Selfish gene is one of those books that everybody should read at earliest opportunity ..then go from there

[@budd2nd]

P S Have you read it then?

[@Khusrav96]

More so than The God Delusion?

[@budd2nd]

Khusrav96 I’ve not read that, as I’m not religious or in a religious country.

[@jamesalan1900]

Well said I Agree

[@primeminister1040]

I did read it, not very interesting, full of contradictions and baseless assumptions

[@volkhen0]

That was a great discussion! I would love to talk with such a brilliant minds from time to time.

[@MD-yp7im]

Please have him on again. I loved this!

[@amirshahnazar6674]

"Eternity is a frightening prospect and so the best way to spend it is under a general anesthetic."~ Richard Dawkins

[@andreavanda4722]

He's frightened because he doesn't believe in anything but himself.

[@TheClayCoKid]

@@andreavanda4722 eternity is a ridiculous concept.

[@dominickschrute3084]

@@TheClayCoKid Just because something is beyond your ken, doesn't make it ridiculous. You, I, and every human is fundamentally ignorant.

[@dnbjedi]

Study with Watts and Dass and you will develop a perspective that transcends ‘belief’.

[@dreamer2260]

@GenXer Yes. Wish there was more fantasy/science fiction that dealt in a complex, deep and serious way with ideas of immortality, because I think it's such a fascinating and potentially moving, powerful and resonant concept.

[@alchemist_one]

This was fantastic, especially the final 15 minutes!

[@drumsticksusa]

A brilliant interview. I made a special effort to see Richard Dawkins speak in Washington DC several years ago. Thanks to both gentlemen for this discussion that can be accessed again and again.

[@nickinskeep]

Damn, you attract a lot of KZbin graduates. Keep it up! Your interviews are wonderful and your comment section is entertaining

[@2000brisk]

How does Lex get all these high profile guests? How is he so well connected?

[@rodrigobraz2]

Having almost a million subscribers probably helps. Also, he seems to be a very good and intelligent interviewer, which probably works in his favor.

[@weedmastersr]

He's a Jew.

[@prathyusha5393]

This is the single most humbling thing I have experienced in the longest time ! Thanks Lex !

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[@bobwelham8792]

As you say, Lex, there are a surprising number of flat earth believers. They can be found all over the globe.

[@favoriteblueshirt]

Interesting and unfortunate that Dawkins puts people who don't believe the official 9/11 press handout in the same boat as the flat earth society. Sad.

[@Jamie-Russell-CME]

maybe they fly in a globe all.across the plane? where buff aloes Rome?

[@jumpingeezus5080]

Bob Welham Why haven't they all found the edge yet? Oh, and jumped off to prove their claim?

[@nigecheshire9854]

Why aren’t they intelligent enough to build an aeroplane or unmanned solar powered vehicle to take pictures😁

[@Quantum_015]

I’m a Flat Earther . Might switch back when the next moon landing ever occurs ...

[@rosh70]

I'm not an atheist, but I follow and listen to almost every talk Richard Dawkins has given. I wish I had someone like that in my family, who would decode mysteries of life to the extent possible for me...genius!