Mark Zuckerberg: First Interview in the Metaverse | Lex Fridman Podcast

[@lexfridman]

Thank you for listening ❤ Here are the timestamps: Transcript: lexfridman.com/mark-zuckerberg-3-transcript 0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions: 0:52 - Metaverse 15:27 - Quest 3 30:16 - Nature of reality 34:54 - AI in the Metaverse 51:51 - Large language models 57:49 - Future of humanity Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast: - LMNT: drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - InsideTracker: insidetracker.com/lex to get 20% off - Eight Sleep: www.eightsleep.com/lex to get special savings - AG1: drinkag1.com/lex to get 1 month supply of fish oil - NetSuite: netsuite.com/lex to get free product tour

[@averagegeek3957]

Having only watched the first few minutes so far: The intro is really cool

[@TaraKerr711]

Are you considering uploading another reading list? The first one was very good and Im always looking for something else to add to my collection :)

[@threewishes777]

Unless this can make me feel another person emotions while we pair up. A simple phone call or video chat will do sir.

[@ishtar0077]

If this feels real. I want to see my dogs ❤

[@gabrielborboa7872]

Weirdos

[@derek_jesio]

The most unrealistic thing about this VR projection is that Lex isn’t wearing a suit and tie

[@ktxed]

that comes with a dlc that you can pay with meta's shitcoin

[@dacronicspotgaming6104]

😂😂

[@MaxUgly]

@@ktxed lmao!

[@oqwewr2]

hahahaha

[@juliehartley3652]

🤣🤣🤣

[@NefariousEpoch]

Mark and Lex have finally revealed their true form.

[@willh69]

😆

[@hafeezhmha]

😂😂

[@cracklingsoda]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@akashthomas3124]

😂😂😂😂

[@LifeofthePRTY]

Top comment

[@joegibbskins]

Lex leaning into Mark and going “and it’s not awkward to be close to you” and Mark going “no, it does. I moved you back”. Was a very funny opening

[@benjaminjohnson4181]

LOL...agreed. That got me, too!

[@soggybiscuit6098]

"Lex, im not wearing pants"

[@gabrielbetancourt2698]

seriously

[@Safar_Galimzyanov]

01:19

[@jamesabbott1551]

Lex keeps blinking like he is trying not to nut ewww

[@alejandrohernandez7340]

Nice to see that Lex and Mark are thriving in their natural environment

[@MrSkme]

Joking/teasing is transformed into bullying when it is repeated over and over. This joke has literally been made millions of times. Pls stop.

[@LoneTornado]

​@@MrSkmeit's just banter man it's really not that serious

[@MrSkme]

@@LoneTornado No. You can say that when its being said once or twice. When you repeat it over and over til they start believing its called bullying or gaslighting.

[@Croco_G]

bro it's not that serious@@MrSkme

[@twitch-xjuiceboxtwitch2088]

@@MrSkmeHYBRID-REPTILIANS

[@blenderguru]

Everyone clowns on Meta but this tech is nothing short of incredible.

[@설리-o2w]

You’re such a doughnut ❤ but I love meta never understand why people clown them.

[@xerograde]

needs more donuts

[@psyantologist]

too bad Meta ruined the brand by starting with the clown crap as if it was anywhere near this

[@雪鷹魚英語培訓的領航]

Meta did some incredibly evil censorship the last few years. Mark's enthusiasm for tech always warms my heart though.

[@skies988]

donut

[@setshkrkrlenv]

Good to see lex in his native environment

[@gmancolo]

Zuck too.

[@Monkeyabroad]

hahahaha

[@nonavailable1755]

lmao he acknowledges its gonna be a meme at 10:05

[@JYLee-rr1sy]

LOL

[@AledLewis]

😂

[@beejme9time]

Timestamps: 1:05 Lex is astounded, thinks this is so great 1:31 Lex thinks this is incredible 1:52 Lex thinks this is the most incredible thing he's ever seen 2:08 Lex thinks this is just really incredible 2:19 Lex thinks this is truly truly incredible 2:34 Lex thinks this is really really incredible 8:16 Lex is just almost at a loss for words this is just so incredible this is truly incredible he hopes that people like watching this can get a glimpse of like how incredible it is 11:42 Lex thinks this is an incredible transition to something else 13:55 Lex's mind is blown he's literally at a loss for words cuz its very difficult to convey how incredible this is 14:13 Lex thinks this is awesome 29:54 Lex thinks this is totally a game changer he can see himself sticking with this for a long time 30:15 Lex is already forgetting that Mark is not real, like this really.. its novel 44:45 Lex is getting his mind blown and is just really excited 57:51 Lex and Mark are talking about AI but Lex is still blown away 1:03:26 For Lex this is really really exciting. He's really excited for this future 1:03:51 Lex is getting his mind blown and can't quite express/ would love to measure his heart rate 1:04:11 This really blew Lex's mind and its one of the most incredible experiences of his life 1:04:24 Lex thinks this is so, so amazing. This is so amazing

[@clintontheross]

Hahaha spot on!

[@loyalcarlon]

Underrated comment 😂

[@JohnFoval]

Coming here to comment this exact same thing lol. You win

[@sosnovskihvadim]

это лучший комментарий

[@vKingLouie]

😂😂

[@dansfishing]

Lex's smile at the beginning says it all. He's made it back home. 😄

[@GabeE3195]

E.T. got home!

[@karasira2696]

🤣🤣

[@bogdan.b]

😂

[@DoNotForget45180]

Cold comment 🥲

[@matt-tq2dp]

Perfect comment 🤣🤣🤣

[@ACGreviews]

Dear god this is amazing. 2 robots in a cyberworld, with copied real life faces pasted BACK onto them. Lex always bringing the awesome

[@manyamaggot]

Should i buy the metaverse googles or wait for a sale?

[@MartyLeonXIIIGaming]

One day we'll watch your reviews in a similar format?!

[@ACGreviews]

@@manyamaggot Wait for sale for sure. Currently needs a patch or 2

[@ACGreviews]

This is true @@MartyLeonXIIIGaming

[@italianmiltyfriedman6264]

you are easily amazed. like a small child

[@adriansullivan4433]

Lex and Mark are the perfect AI’s to test this new technology with

[@geoffteehan4112]

See 10:05

[@johnnylego807]

@@geoffteehan4112what abt it?

[@GamerBoyRobby]

@@johnnylego807 they pretty much joke about how they are monotone/emotionless i.e. an AI

[@ErenYeager0607]

​@@GamerBoyRobbyWell stoicism is a thing

[@GamerBoyRobby]

@Light_Yagami_0607 stoicism is great. I started listening to the epictetus audio book, never finished it though. Might go back to it

[@WesTheWizard]

I wish they would release a version of this as a VR video. I would definitely throw on my Quest to watch it that way.

[@egrytznr8893]

Ewwww🤢🤮

[@MAandS]

Missed opportunity

[@egrytznr8893]

I don't want to see their pores close up in VR, if I'm going to be up in someone's creepy face that close they better be pretty (no offense to Lex he's not too horrible to look at, it's Zuckerberg who creeps me out)

[@glenmerwyn5195]

That would be awesome. The future - to some degree ?

[@jkizer75]

Why is this better than being on a video call with a real person than having a fake avatar of yourself?

[@brandonsmith8235]

Imagine a podcast where you, the listener, are the third seat at the table and you can convincingly be in the same room as the two people talking.

[@Faux-losophy]

Someone already created a app where you can ask Siri a question while you are listening to a podcast. And the person talking will answer it with an AI generated voice of them. So building off what you are saying. You could be a third party in the conversation, but actually interject with questions about what you have just heard the podcaster say, and have them respond to you in their voice and with their facial movements. Before continuing on with the podcast as normal.

[@teepaint6076]

🤯🎯🤯

[@julius43461]

Now imagine when you are the third person in the room talking, when it's not even you but your image and your voice on a mission to discredit you.

[@davidferrer6771]

Amazing to be part of the podcast is the future, so many possibilities!

[@jacquesduplessis6175]

Yes, you can build up your knowledge, build up your reputation, then you can get invited to be on one of the podcasts and have it stream out to millions of people. Or, you can pay someone to play the podcast game😂😂

[@BrockCovington]

The most shocking part is Lex not wearing his iconic suit and tie

[@parasocialbondsmetaswvoits9078]

well he's at home environment after all

[@alengm]

That's it! I felt that something was off but couldn't put my finger onto it.

[@aga5109]

His true colours 😂

[@ihavetubes]

He could always wear one in the virtual world like you would in a video game.

[@wes3493]

Infamous? That's not interchangeable with famous.

[@thefilminformer]

When Mark said “I am real.” I almost believed it!

[@Tricia-Tricia]

It's amazing how advanced technology has become, and sometimes it can feel like AI is almost human-like.

[@aki7162]

​@@w花bbut then he corrected himself and said "I AM a human"

[@satan3347]

The pretense to realness is the root of all evil that this tech will do to the world by masking the sheer amount of abstraction, intermediation, manipulations, frictions & deceptions.

[@julianselser3755]

how are you doing fellow humans?

[@smeagols_smelliest_smuggler]

Just got the Quest 3: • *Hand tracking* is incredible. After a while though, I go back to the controllers because there's a slight latency between my physical hand and the virtual hand - a little annoying. • *Passthrough* nothing too spectacular on its own, but boy is it cool to see virtual objects overlayed on top of your living room (referring to the First Encounters demo here). • *Resolution* is pretty freakin good. Sure, Meta apps are gonna look better than 3rd-party ones, but they'll soon catch up over the next couple of years. I'm stoked for the day Meta can implement eye-tracking onto an MR headset. At that point, being able to click on things just by looking at them and then tapping your fingers AND being able to see your surrounding physical environment just... blows my mind.

[@JohnBurrell-mm2ot]

I’m thinking of buying my little sister one

[@DatThiccGinger]

Meta should host these types of interviews with 3d recordings so you could sit next to them and listen to the conversation in VR. That would be surreal.

[@3styFekt]

This comment doesn't have enough TU. Great idea that I think Meta would totally be able to create even for Q2 users.

[@ironheavenz]

Judging by the different views, there is a high chance they actually have the data to actually build that for the case of this interview, maybe we'll get to experience that soon

[@beastybear4499]

Patience my child….

[@ElJebetequa]

wow! then it will REALLY feel like I'm hanging out with friends when I'm listening to a podcast

[@piter239]

absolutely! this would be soooo much better than just listening to Lex repeating "that's incredible!" :) Because it really is!

[@ZombiesSpreadAids]

This is insane. Mark looks more real than he does in real life.

[@DeepThinkersClub]

Real life is a simulation. Time to face reality, bro.

[@akshaytakkar6747]

Honestly, he still looks like an NPC

[@Dreamaster2012]

STOP Now 😂 Don't even 😤

[@kurtkabat203]

I’m impressed and imagining all the possibilities including integrating metaverse technology / augmented reality with other platforms, apps and AI. We’re in for some amazing times! I embrace technology and excited for what the future holds

[@iluhaanimator]

Photoshoped face textures)

[@clownhands]

This is insane. It’s not a video feed. It’s a digital stream of your real-time expressions projected onto static facial scans. Wild stuff.

[@luminousfractal420]

great so now were mopy fish

[@thomashauer6804]

zuckerberg is like the christian bale character in christopher nolans movie prestige..he kept his face expression mechanic all his life just for this moment so the VR Immersion is perfect..it is him

[@jordanlyon3850]

I’ve had inventions for the last 9 that society is finally ready, this video is proof.

[@patt8223]

I think the dangers outweigh the advantages. The potential for impostors is actually pretty scary. No good will come from this I fear.

[@chrismenezes]

@@patt8223nobody cares

[@dezunne]

definitely saving lots of bandwidth on transmitting facial expressions with this pair 😂

[@anneis8319]

😂😅

[@scose]

lmao

[@mattinterweb]

lol

[@Argethus]

Hahaha😂

[@davefellows]

Damn, your IQ must be off the charts, that's genius! 😂

[@jimmyeatshoe]

It’s like watching two hostages tied up in a dark basement having a chat.

[@jerrickapeters3607]

Especially given the fact that none of this even makes sense - the AI doesn’t know how to give us any angle other than this one? Why are they in weird rooms, if they were just chilling? Where is the background? Where are the rest of their bodies? Why doesn’t the interview ever go to first person? What do they see? Where the hell did this angle come from??? Like wat?

[@HalWinstonFletcher]

@@jerrickapeters3607 5:23 is an example of a POV shot 👍

[@dzenacs2011]

​@@jerrickapeters3607 where ? In the times where computers will be more powerful and videogames like this will be less demanding

[@rano12321]

As a 3D arist and dev, I'm blown away by the realtime body and facial mocap and the flawless retargetting. This is bonkers.

[@JoJoZaka]

its been around awhile. even some vtubers use it. where have you been?

[@ved3275]

​@@JoJoZakavtubers use a 3d motion mapping suit and machine vision, but this uses a computer model to identify & understand the motion difference and changes virtual 3d model with those differences in frames. It will require far less hardware and bandwidth. The mocap suits cost a fortune even the less accurate inertial motion one. Meaning you just buy a meta quest pro for the price of an iPhone Max while delivering a professional quality.

[@tannar4607]

what vtubers? from what ive seen those are all animated while this is hyper realistic. I am also a 3d artist and this is scary good, like ready player one good. definitely a possibility everyone will be living in this to escape reality.@@JoJoZaka

[@Gallowglass7]

@@JoJoZaka This is nothing like 'Vtubers' ...

[@jt8251]

Isn't Zoom or standard video conferencing a better solution for something like an interview? Why is all this whizbang technology necessary for such a simple use case?

[@GPR3]

This is one of the dopest things I’ve ever seen! I’m huge into technology and this makes me so excited! Good job, Mark & team 👏🏼

[@polymloth]

This should’ve been captured as 3D video so people could sit in the same room and follow the conversation in VR. How cool would that be!

[@calvincarpenter1896]

100x this!

[@NathanGrubbs]

In theory, it would be trivial to record the entire meeting and actually "attend" the meeting later on within a 3D space using a VR/AR headset. In fact, that must be exactly what happened here, as the perspective changes throughout, and I suspect this was done in post production.

[@Fussfackel]

agreed! missed chance really

[@jpa_fasty3997]

You've just come up with a truly genius idea there my friend

[@JoshBuckm]

It would require a football stadium sized venue! Some sort of sorting algorithm to put us in smaller rooms might be useful.

[@gdok6088]

It looks amazing in 2-D so the full 3-D immersive experience must feel incredible. I guess Lex's reaction gives a good clue to how mind blowing this must be.

[@casaamaril]

Zuckerberg couldn't have wished for a better advertising campaign than the Lex Fridman podcast, this is next level

[@Johnny_Savage]

wonder how much lex got paid for this 1h ad. he even faked emotions so it must have been pretty tough to do

[@ehhhhhhhhhh]

@@marcchampagnephilosopher All talk shows are advertisements, this is not some conspiracy.

[@casaamaril]

@@marcchampagnephilosopher good point

[@imaliazhar]

@@ehhhhhhhhhh This is reductive to the point to being a strawman. There's no difference between journalist grilling a politician and a podcast host singing praises about a product?

[@leslieviljoen]

And will the Quest 3 even be able to do with without eye tracking? I doubt it. But that's not mentioned.

[@lemoln]

I just imagine using this as a physics tutor, you can create a surrounding area with objects, which have physically accurate interactions, and demonstrate anything while being face to face with your student, regardless of the distance between you. Absolutely amazing.

[@Spamkromite]

That's has already been done since years, using Unreal Engine 5 for colleges, shows and other symposiums 😕

[@gabrielegagliardi3956]

@@Spamkromite I think he meant in a virtual reality space with real time photorealistic results, which is still pretty far, if you use quixel megascans in VR is like kicking your system in the balls, that's why vr graphics looks so childish and minimalistic compared to classic videogames. And btw this video with lex and Zuckerberg is impressive but the normal map glitching while they move shows how the post "only avatar" phase will be painful and will take at least 10/15 years to be significantly improved (I'm taking about a believable vr photorealistic experience where you can actually do something instead of being a talking head).

[@dishwasher69]

​@@Spamkromitethat is still not as intimate as this one

[@OmarDaily]

@@gabrielegagliardi395610/15 years is way too long, 3-5 years is more like it, especially once mainstream companies start pouring money into it, this will accelerate R&D. Meta and Apple are making strides in this field. The introduction of the Vision Pro, iPhones able to capture spatial video and the Apple Watch using gestures to control it, Meta’s glasses having people use AI to interact with the real world. Once the ecosystems are built, this will take off and I really don’t think it will take more than 5 years to create.

[@MalrickEQ2]

Realtime physics simulations are still kind of janky - they work well for simple things - but errors start creeping in with more complex stuff.

[@doingstuffwithsteve]

This interview may have changed my mind on the Metaverse. This is pretty awesome.

[@fightme5543]

The vision has always been there, just not enough proof to justify it. That's changing fast! Check out two minute papers!

[@Johnny_Savage]

don't be fooled by the zuck

[@smohan123]

same

[@eirickbuckley9998]

Which is what makes this feel so much like an advertisement. How many times did Lex exclaim, "I'm blown away! So intimate! My heart is racing(weird one here)" Ask Mark what he plans on doing with all the facial expression data he collects. Point blank, will he collect telemetry. What will he use telemetry for. Such a fluff piece.

[@rjgallman4916]

Yeah... buy land in the metaverse! 🤣🤡

[@KittyThePreppingCat.]

Within 10 seconds I am hooked. Omg. I'm an original Star Trek fan at 61, and this is, without a doubt, the best interview I've ever seen! Both my younger son, 24 and I are high functioning, and this would be great for us!!! 😁😁😁

[@PAWGmoth]

Ur so cool lol I hope you guys both get cool vr sets

[@emumist]

What do you mean high functioning, and in what way would this be great for you both?

[@el_nino1]

@@emumisthigh functioning autism presumably

[@sebber12891289]

@@emumistWhat do you even mean?

[@nicolasramirez3944]

Wow! Mark somehow manages to look more real in the metaverse than real life.

[@spurezurko]

right? He actually has more complexion to him than in 'reality'...lols

[@mappingthevoid]

That's because it has produced a better 3D effect than typical video.

[@mikemccarthy1638]

Too bad w/ all his attention to the visual, that he still has that non-haircut. My Mom cudda given him that cut in :15 when he was eight - including the time it wudda took to chase him down & put his skinny/ass butt in his brother’s high chair 😮 The incomprehension comes from how incredibly easy it is to fix. Maybe a center part, a La, Gen. Curtis LeMay, gently-streaked, like he actually gets out in the sun !! 😅

[@x1expert1x]

@@mikemccarthy1638 it's a classic haircut of Rome. He sees himself as a modern day emperor (even though he's way more powerful than that sadly).

[@poxer1]

hahahahah. This is actually true

[@VTgamer14]

Was half expecting Mark to drop the bombshell at the end that Lex had indeed been speaking to the AI Zuckerberg the whole time. That would’ve been badass

[@pcproffy]

Anyone notice that Zuckerberg's avatar seems more human than his real form?

[@mattm2353]

i can honestly see Zuck or anyone in general just using this and disappearing. imagine if we neve see zuck in real life and he only ever shows himself in the metaverse

[@JacobWilson777]

​@@pcproffyhe not as pale

[@allisonal]

@@pcproffy Partway through the interview he mentioned that one of the benefits of using avatars could be getting to express emotions in ways that are more in line with what people expect to see. So I’m sure he’s fully cognizant of that!

[@adam2956]

When Lex was looking at Mark and started describing how the imperfections like freckles and variations in colour are amazing and Mark, looking at Lex replied with "yeah- wrinkles, facial asymmetry"

[@RealGusOnDemand]

😂😂

[@deep_fried_analysis]

Mark is separated from normality on a comical level at this point.

[@sinnwalker]

​​​​@@deep_fried_analysisIt's funny. But He's just super into technology and not really into ppl, I feel that. Also he's most likely autistic, we cannot express the same way regular ppl do sometimes

[@YuriMomoiro]

@@deep_fried_analysis People always want groups they want to point at and say they are better than the group, regardless of individual achievements. This is a manifestation of insecurity

[@stenbiller99]

“Sitting in a dark room which is familiar for your podcast “ lol

[@pradyumna4980]

😂😅😂

[@ztarzcream]

Can't wait to avoid eye contact in the Metaverse! Probably gonna be "offline" to avoid social interaction. What a time to be alive!

[@Roadmannerism-cc]

outside is the original offline man

[@duck8280]

Yeah… we will get to a point where no one will want to be in the real world anymore. Once we die out, and the new generations come in- this will be the new normal. Atlas- ready player 1, and dystopian future takes place

[@MojKanal-cz1iz]

@@duck8280This is why I don't understand people who wanna have children. I am only around 30 years old and can't even imagine how fucked up world will be before I die let alone if I had children. Poor kids these days. They will be brainwashed with retarded shit from the very moment they are aware of themselves and even more enslaved and controlled than we ever were or could even imagine being. I always wished I grew up in 80s but now I am just glad I am not born this year lol

[@duck8280]

@@shreeeze Aaaaaa it’s definitely dystopian my friend. Everyone’s going to live in trailers with poor living conditions strapped to a headset. I like your positive outlook on gaming, but unfortunately that won’t be the case. Those don’t sound like fun mechanics, and if people don’t play- well then it’s a bad game and people will do something else.

[@RA1NBOWC0RN69]

it is the complete opposite of how we should be communicating with each other because some are not capable of have these same interactions face to face

[@alalalavaladu3670]

It's weird to see lex and mark more emotive than they usually are.

[@nuxetcrux]

Hopefully they stay inside

[@glenn-younger]

I know, right? That's what I was thinking about Mark Zuckerberg.

[@lukatore123]

They are in their "natural" enviroment

[@editelh]

It’s fake. I’m not in favor.

[@Johnny_Savage]

lex being "emotional" was the effect of the big pile of cash zuck gave him for the 1h advertisement

[@fotgaxton]

Honestly for once I'm actually impressed, this is incredible

[@devonjackdavidmatheson6505]

How is it any better than face timing

[@kangaroomax8198]

@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505 You think there's no different between talking with someone face to face and doing a video call?

[@ihaxcookies]

@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505this is like it’s early stages, give it a couple years and imagine how you could customize the background/scenery however you like

[@fillpattanamontri8698]

@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505wait till skin sensors come in bro

[@mytwosatoshis4052]

@@devonjackdavidmatheson6505common sense would have 100’s of reason

[@iPhD-Intelligence]

God, Lex is a genius for bringing this to light. A true gem to the world. Mark looks more human through his avatar than through his real face. 😅

[@tomaAlex2001]

Lex *almost crying and close to getting a cardiac arrest*: "This really blew my mind. One of the most incredible experiences of my life, so thank you for giving that to me" Mark *trying to make up a virtual smile*: "Glad that you got to check it out. It's always fun to talk"

[@Johnny_Savage]

that's just because he never tried an isolation tank

[@PierreSeattle]

I would show this to any adolescent to observe Lex faculty of enthusiasm with a youthful spirit, which is the primary skill to embark on any activity, especially studying. I have observed that so many times in his previous podcast. But here it’s paroxismal experience😂 let’s call it an intellectual orgasm

[@musictheorytree]

I am absolutely astonished. I would be chuckling and struggling to keep my composure because of how incredible this is.

[@joshisajedi2461]

Everyone laughed at the Metaverse when Mark first showed it off. This is next level.

[@boneroaster88j7]

Still laughing, shit is goofy.

[@crypticallegory]

I have no mouth and I must laugh.

[@Fussfackel]

they still can't do legs

[@cvx8279]

And you're a bot lol

[@Swarm509]

It was a joke at first, the Wii cartoon graphics were not helping it at all. It is an interesting idea, and I think even if this doesn't work something like it will eventually happen. Going to the real graphics and fascial expressions is a major step up, and in the right direction.

[@TheItalianoAssassino]

Imagine graduating highschool and then getting a degree just to sit in a meeting with Bob, the AI. 😂😂😂

[@dethbeat]

Feels like this podcast will become a real landmark moment.

[@Mikaelajorko]

Yup.

[@peterfazio9306]

I think so, too. This is huge.

[@jeffwangvids]

definitely will

[@JonahNelson7]

What are these comments. This is crazy

[@grimendancehall]

ahahahaha yoooo wtfff Irobot shit

[@tonymendestv]

Have to admit.. this is pretty freakin awesome. I can totaly picture everybody communicating like this on a daily basis.

[@tylere.8436]

It always starts it awesome, admittedly this is quite a feat; However as time goes on people take it too far and then the regulations ruin everything. Just being realistic here, but I could be wrong.

[@Mu5icPr0ducer]

Most people, young and old, aren’t even comfortable FaceTiming or going on video on Zoom. Most people will still want to do real life stuff, not be in computers.

[@Southforthewinter]

@@tylere.8436it can get so good and so awesome that ppl will be couch potatoes as a result of preferring this over real encounters and experiences. Think about being able to have a beautiful dinner date with your partner ocean side in some unrealistic Italian restaurant. But both of you are actually in two separate apartments in Akron Ohio. It always starts awesome… The amount of dopamine imbalance ppl will experience when they go from putting the glasses on to taking them off and having to go clock in and do your shift so you can get off and come back and put them on. Then some industries will be able to hire and have ppl work from home through the glasses. And then now you never have to leave, unless it’s for food and bathroom. Once they bring in touch sensitive technology to it it’s game over lol

[@beachtroll4023]

Well if Ai Replace a lots of jobs this will be a certain alternative. Just imagine Cvd-19 with this technology@@Mu5icPr0ducer

[@PeteQuad]

@@Mu5icPr0ducer Yes real life is better. But as an old(er) person, I would be totally up for talking with distant family members this way, and I have zero interest in facetime (and not much interest in phone calls either).

[@Andybandy]

Zuckerberg has more emotional range in the Metaverse than in the real world

[@jamesnguyen7069]

[@Mintyseden]

I was thinking the same!!

[@Arivva777]

I think him rolling on mats made him more human for sure

[@lindaohanraha-hanrahan2817]

Came to say that. 😂

[@alexanderpike1641]

He spends more time there than the real world

[@adambartlett6277]

This is historic. Speaks volumes that this historic moment happened on KZbin rather than legacy media

[@andersemil5541]

This is the first time in recorded history that Lex has ever kept eye contact

[@zxLoneWolf]

Lmao true. Eye contact is overrated anyways

[@deep_fried_analysis]

@@zxLoneWolf Spoken like a true beta.

[@KonamiKonami]

betas love eye contact with other men. @@deep_fried_analysis

[@akiotatsuki2621]

I think Lone Wolves are Omegas not Betas@@deep_fried_analysis

[@klimenkor]

wow! that's true :)))

[@bp56789]

30:16 it makes me laugh every time Mark has to assure us that he is a real person.

[@BrianMosleyUK]

The matrix nailed this by showing everyone inside the matrix as their beautiful avatar.

[@leospektor1]

YEAH that's lol

[@ItsTheTravellingTrio]

😂😂😂

[@dntwantgglplus]

Mark and Lex are looking more and more lifelike. Great work, engineering team!

[@zbyszanna]

Why is this video not available as a VR video?

[@link5175]

This moment feels like a leap into the future. Mark and Lex embody the potential of the Metaverse, blurring the lines between virtual and reality. The level of authenticity is surreal. Can't wait to see how this shapes our digital experiences! 🚀🌌

[@TwiStedReality1313]

A digital prison, how nice. We really all will be pod people with the amount of support this is getting. Regardless of its positives, human nature tells me this will not be used for anything good.

[@Claude_van]

I can imagine a lot of people throw away their digital devices and start living real lives. This digital crap and all their manipulation and power is going much too far.👋

[@b_i_l_l_w_i_l_l_i_a_m_s_o_n]

Oh you think this is going to be good? Uh oh

[@link5175]

I appreciate the cautionary perspectives, it's crucial to consider the impact of new tech on our lives. The Metaverse undoubtedly raises important questions. Let's work together to ensure it enhances, rather than hinders, our human experiences. A balance is key! 🤝🌐

[@bradbecker8982]

The virtual is reality… but reality isn’t virtual

[@InternetHuman16]

This interview belongs to the history books.

[@jamesnguyen7069]

👎

[@jack-o_lantern]

@@jamesnguyen7069👎 to your “👎”

[@jack-o_lantern]

@@jamesnguyen7069also, liking your own comment is pretty depressing.

[@stokkejanraggio9091]

@@jack-o_lantern everything you post is liked already or else you wouldnt post it right :P

[@jack-o_lantern]

⁠@@stokkejanraggio9091 I think you need to try again with that sentence. Lol Edit: added “I think” since I’m not your mother and you can do as you please.

[@rideroftheweek]

Marc actually looks way more human than normal in the metaverse

[@123shotas]

Still raprilian futures showing 😂

[@ethanwasme4307]

both of them look more human 😂😂

[@Kevin-bg3wu]

He's fully tuned

[@psykonauta]

Human zuck is actually a projection of the metaverse one.

[@unemployedgringo]

It's because he's in his native environment 😂

[@MattHunX]

Right from the beginning this discussion reminded of Ghost in the Shell. Which I recently had the pleasure of watching/binging for the first time. And it was incredible. Thought-provoking and just ahead of its time. In it, even television news anchors had virtual avatars representing them on-screen. Meetings between business men and politicians happened as one was sitting in a limo, suited up, while the other sat at some, in their underwear, but their avatar displayed to the other participant(s) of the conversation was of them fully dressed, showing up either on a separate screen that was physically in their immediate environment or it was displayed, as far as I recall, in their retinas, through a cybernetic implant, that practically projected an image across their personal field of vision, as if it was an overlay of augmented reality, which only they could see. ... 32:15 On the question of what identity, the protagonist of Ghost in Shell has been using a full cyborg body since before puberty, because of an accident. She never even menstruated. And that part definitely made me think, as it also resonated with today's culture war about gender-identity and what even makes someone either what they biologically are or what they see themselves as. What is a woman? If having a vagina and menstruating doesn't make one a woman, as some proponents of trans-rights claim, then why are some people convinced that putting on a dress, make-up and a wig can make them one? The fully cyberized people in the world of Ghost in the Shell are, as the series' name suggests, digitized individuals/souls/ghosts housed in ultimately meaningless artificial shells that could be custom-made, with any physique, genitalia, if the latter even mattered to some. Now, obviously, the main character Motoko Kusanagi is a woman, considers herself as such, is referred to as such. There's never actually a discussion about how her brain was already digitized and uploaded into a fully cybernetic body since childhood, because of an accident, and how that affected her maturing mind. The series didn't need to delve into that, but it can definitely provoke some serious reflections on certain things. In that universe, because of the level of technology and what it allows, the difference between what could be considered a man or a woman, by whatever convention, truly matters very little; or more accurately, people are able to identify however they view themselves to be, as technology allows them to match their custom-made physical bodies and all of its function to it, tailored to their detailed preferences. Similarly to the series Altered Carbon, which I also often bring up as an example to illustrate how it is presently impossible for people to be so cavalier about what they identify as and demand society to conform to their whims, as we are very much still limited by both biology and technology. That doesn't stop some from mentally already living in such a (presently fictional) utopia where merely being in a certain state mentally can be completely translated into being in it physically. No one can yet claim that they are 100% what they identify as, man or woman, both or neither, because they cannot physically/biologically completely be so, no matter how they see themselves and identify as, no matter how liberated it makes them feel, no matter the dysphoria that causes it, no matter the language and terms used. Their physical reality cannot yet be made to completely match the one in their head. If we had technology that allowed people to transfer their selves into a body of their preference, and lived in that body, either since before puberty or even starting after, they could say they're a 100% what they believe they are, because they could be, with all the biological functions, and other physical, physiological characteristic that came with it. However, were not there yet. Acknowledging that shouldn't be transphobic. It shouldn't constitute an attack, an invalidation. It is an uncomfortable, but honest reality-check. ... And about AIs in chat-rooms and video-games. It is already making waves in Skyrim, through a downloadable companion that functions through ChatGPT. And the conversation in can cobble together from all the information/lore of the game is SCARY IMPRESSIVE. At this point, pretty much the only thing they need to work on is the still rather robotic tone of its voice. If they can somehow program it to sound more natural, they're done. In games AI could definitely offer a completely and constantly fresh experience that could revolutionize replayability for just about any genre of video-game where they could work it in. In chat-rooms, and social platforms, I can definitely see how it could, perhaps, help people with social phobias and even disabilities it could stem from by offering them virtual connections they could use, akin to exposure therapy, to strip away their anxiety. It could also help people study, prep for tests by having it pose questions to them quizzing them, acting as a tutor. The only real criticism I can level at it is that in a virtual room full of people, an AI would still be just that. No matter eerily human-like it could get, it would still be fake. Granted, nobody is a real person on the internet, in the sense that everyone can and does hide part of themselves behind an avatar and username. Many actually act braver and with less consideration than they would in person, which doesn't translate well into the real-world, where, if they eventually find themselves in they'll be ill-prepared to interact with other people in person. That's already happening! So, it'll have its drawbacks. Maybe it'll draw people already addicted to cyberspace, with a virtual (re)presentation of themselves, further into it. Another series that utilizes this concept is a show called Gen:LOCK. Now, the first seasons is amazing, and it actually has a gender-fluid character whose reveal and presentation it handles very cleverly, with the technology of its world. Of course that's just a footnote. The plot itself and characterization is interesting.

[@slarti42uk]

I think it would be fantastic to watch a podcast or interview content like this actually in VR, as if youre watching a live on stage interview, or being a third person at the table.

[@JordanMillsTracks]

Yes!

[@curiouslyeternal]

3rd person at the table would be incredible

[@eddiehumphreys2486]

I wonder if they will ever release the VR version? I would pay for that

[@CoolInOlympia]

For sure!

[@KuyaQuatro]

There's a few vr180 interview type of content. Carl Mclarty does a lot of man-on-the-street kinda interviews in vr180, which you can access via youtube vr or deovr. I only got a couple up on my page; but point is, it can be hit or miss. If the interview is engaging, yeah it's cool. But it's hard to sit through one for longer than 5-6 min unless things change up a lot cause in VR, you're LOCKED IN to that viewing environment. Which is why I hope that XR/Mixed Reality viewing will help introduce casual viewing, so ppl can look at their phone, grab a drink, etc, just like how one does when watching a youtube video at home.

[@josh70924]

They should have recorded this as something that we could experience in the meta verse. I think it'd be dope to be able to basically be sitting there with them

[@mason6538]

with my goat hanging out

[@johnbarreca6759]

that’d be kinda weird sitting in a room of people having a convo and not participating

[@MrLowkeynz]

@@johnbarreca6759 welcome to being an introvert

[@eyeTHC]

@@mason6538lmfao

[@romellosorvino112]

That would be great. This is smart however. It’s accessible to everyone. Most people out there probably can’t afford all the vr needs. But yes. This is amazing and the future is scary yet intriguing. Be well everyone out there.

[@architectinth]

Straight-up, this is a completely different level. It definitely translates 2d incredibly well. Total game changer. I wonder what Meta's stock will do in the next week.

[@Thomashisacount]

I don't think people will understand the impact atm

[@netcoded]

@@Thomashisacountwhats the impact

[@thesus4499]

Most people on wall st are unaware of Lex. Consider yourself an insider

[@00zo18]

Question is if adult content can be scanned in the meta and allowed in the future, if so its a big winner.

[@SamBekn]

This is not some magic they invented this technology existed for years and its used by film makers and alot of CG or CGI softwares

[@globofgreen]

That technology is pretty crazy. I couldn’t tell it was an avatar at first.

[@FrankValchiria]

never seen lex this expressive ever, he took his final form

[@KungFuChess]

Amazing to see two actual AI's talking to each other in human form

[@camaycama7479]

It is not AI

[@erenkruger849]

srs?@@camaycama7479

[@The_Quaalude]

@@camaycama7479 /r wooosh

[@gtrdxz]

Thats the joke...@@camaycama7479

[@mmsk2010]

It's close@@camaycama7479

[@flamingpaxtsc]

It’s incredible that this is ACTUALLY a thing that is REALLY HAPPENING. It seems like just yesterday that my mind was blown at the fact that a virtual headset could even exist, but THIS?! This is something else.

[@lukaloncar1999]

Please don't be offended can you share why you think that? My opinion is completly opposite I won't say it cause then I will be a boomer, but I would like to know why you think that?

[@flamingpaxtsc]

@@lukaloncar1999 It’s because the graphics look so realistic to real life. I still can’t really comprehend things like VR chat, let alone this new Metaverse

[@colors3037]

Omg I AGREE so much WITH what you are SAYING we are like TWINS so DEADASS

[@JesusFollower596]

Relax it’s not that serious, ya’ll some nerds

[@GuacSause]

@@JesusFollower596”yall some nerds” trynna act cool on a literal nerdy podcast. Goofy af lmao, and it will be a big deal. There’s a reason every major tech company is investing into AR and VR lil bro.

[@BLAISEDAHL96]

Given all the recent hype reviews of Apple Vision, you have to admit that the quality of these face renderings are impressive

[@Vermilion2049]

I love how Mark understands people think his expression is monotone

[@tubeyou6794]

what do you love about it?

[@eugeniorivera4818]

we love to see an agi gaining self awareness lol @@tubeyou6794

[@clive_the_fat_cat]

​@@tubeyou6794the fact that if he won the lotto he would sound like his cats died

[@leslieviljoen]

I think he expressed himself very well here - and through an avatar!

[@jessecraft1199]

He’s a lizard, not an idiot.

[@locke2517]

The tech in 10 years is gonna be absurd. This is genuinely incredible, and frightening

[@thephilosopher7173]

Definitely frightening because it’s happening faster than we as humans can possible grow into.

[@sieteLineas]

@@thephilosopher7173 don´t underestimate how flexible we are. we can live in a desert, the north pole, or even in space. we are way better than most animals when it comes to adapting to a new enviroment.

[@nicocence3369]

@@thephilosopher7173what do you even mean by that?? We don’t have to physically adapt to this

[@eafanboyssuck]

Online client meetings are gonna be crazy

[@mrbust999]

Not really lol. It's all going to crash.

[@Null-o7j]

Stunning turnaround of Metaverse by Mark. This actually has potential.

[@АлексейСтаценко-р1м]

Mostly for sexual purposes. Imagine a "gamer girl" having a paid meet-up with her subs all at once, so to everyone it feels like 1 on 1 conversation

[@Astra2]

@@АлексейСтаценко-р1м I'd just create an AI powered gamer girl for free using an LLM.

[@oliviervanleeuwen6867]

@@АлексейСтаценко-р1м why the fuck is that your first thought

[@ironheavenz]

I don't think this is a turnaround, his vision has been to be to eventually be able to do this for quite a while now, Mark and Meta as a whole probably got a bit too overexited at the results they were getting since they were finally building it and probably oversold the current state of it after being silent about this for a long time

[@jackson11mce]

@@ironheavenz agreed

[@storiesforniamh..]

What device are they using. And what programme. I bought a meta quest 3 today thinking thins was possible but I don't think it is.

[@Schwing27]

This is actually pretty mind blowing. How far technology has come over the past few years alone is legit absolutely insane. I can’t wait to see the future of VR/AR/Mixed reality headsets.

[@dealincat933]

Exactly. I’d love to hate on Meta but … this is extremely impressive

[@andrewgiovannini6613]

It's a dog and pony show. They spent a lot of time and money creating these avatars. It's far from being viable at the consumer level.

[@Schwing27]

@@andrewgiovannini6613 Well I’m not sure what you mean dog and pony show.. but yes, it’s mentioned in the beginning of the podcast the process they did to get their avatars. You are correct it’s not at a casual consumer level yet. They mentioned that as well. But within a few years it will be. And that’s going to be incredible.

[@robsmith5434]

@@andrewgiovannini6613not viable… yet. In a couple years, you’ll be able to do the photo scans with your phone and this will be available to everyone.

[@QU1KS1LVAR]

Wow! This takes VR to another level. I don’t want cartoony avatars for business meetings or even on video calls with loved ones, I want to be present with others and this is a huge step towards that

[@willd.8040]

Yeah the future of Face Time-like calls is going to be insane. You will feel like your friends or family are right in front of you. Imagine watching a football game with someone, or just hanging out with friends like this? Wow!

[@XQZ9789]

Utter bullshit. Da fuck you need to look at some random fucks during the game?

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

You will give your full bodyscan for free, and you will be happy

[@QU1KS1LVAR]

@@willd.8040 I have lived on the other side of the world, away from my family for over 20 years. It would mean so much to be able to be with my folks like this, I cant wait!

[@Jadenity]

This is incredible. How has the Metaverse come this far in such a short time? It feels like yesterday we were memeing about the cartoon avatars. Simply amazing.

[@BebeSoule]

It's A.I

[@dixonhill1108]

The cartoon avatars were always a temp thing. PS4 had better graphics in 2016.

[@nhymz]

It is only with hindsight do we see that it was always their plan to fail forward

[@kazioo2]

Codec avatars were already shown YEARS ago. Those who are interested in VR tech knew everything just from following progress on social media, but they were drowned out by ignorant masses screaming with memes. It's always like this with new tech - first it's mocked and then "surprise Pikachu".

[@TwiStedReality1313]

​@nhymz just like the fight between him and musk. All you're supposedly fighting for is which digital space you prefer. They still have you in the mindest of supporting it regardless of who you choose.

[@lewismtdev]

Even after Lex revealed it was CGI, I still couldn't wrap my head around it because the subtle facial animations are soo realistic

[@Damdebase]

It's still not fooling levels of realistic, you can tell it's off right away, but it's getting close!

[@WesTheWizard]

Lex looks better than Mark, IMHO.

[@brandondelahoussaye8323]

This is absolutely amazing. Did not feel weird watching at all. The audio being very clear had a bigger impact than many would think i believe. Loved the intermingling of the 3 views together too.

[@byronweisfeld6939]

thats cuz the entire video content of this interview was a great example of "metaverse NPCs" that zuck wont stfu about

[@byronweisfeld6939]

the video content of this one is literally a tracing of hours of both these guys at one static angle, also we cant even see what lex and mark saw under the headsets and i dont trust mark or meta he literally admitted to this being a glorified series of tracings in a 3d flip book crafted by chatGPT

[@carfish]

Despite my personal opinions of the Zuck and his companies, I just realized that Lex’s series of interviews with him may be my favorite. As someone who is very interested in technology, I can appreciate and applaud any big tech CEO that can sit down for an open, honest conversation while giving a slight peek behind the curtain, so to speak. And that ‘avatar codec’ tech is unbelievable. Thanks Lex!

[@thephilosopher7173]

Gary vee ( say what you will lol) said for years that Zucks and FB was underrated. I never felt anything personal against him but it’s good that ppl are waking up on how to judge someone. Honest ppl aren’t quick to hide (unless it’s from ignorant judgement).

[@noiseforthealgorithm4668]

I think the word "honest" next to Zuck might collapse the universe. He's arguably the most evil person of our century. Lex is either a dummy or an hypocrite. You pick. I can't really decide. Always promoting his void naive childish message about LOVE and goodness in the World, and then considering Zuckerberg his friend...what a s***t show

[@aladdin8623]

Many people may not like Zucker, but meta produces some respectable amount of open source projects like zstd. 11:28 i noticed that full detailed smiling translation is not completely there yet. Nonetheless that approach to realism beats easily everything i've ever seen in realtime graphics.

[@noiseforthealgorithm4668]

oh wow the realism yes great, in the meantime they worked algos to get us addicted as much as possible to void dumb content that doesn't give us anything more then dopamine hits, waisting our lives - while selling our data to companies like Cambridge Analytica. LMAO yes great resolution though @@aladdin8623

[@aladdin8623]

@@geosdev LoL i am aware of his controversial decisions. But doesn't everybody deserve a chance to rehabilitate?

[@Michaelbesomeone]

Who did the intro? It’s awesome! Did meta put that together for him?

[@Travisb238]

I'm far from a fan of Zuck but this is truly incredible. What an insane time to be alive to see inventions like this.

[@il-conte]

Incredible and scary... think that with a full scan, AI could completely replace you in a meeting. It already can in videos with deepfake, but with this it can do real time...

[@DanCortes]

@@il-conteI can just send my AI avatar to work for me? Sign me up!

[@Jdb63]

​@@DanCortes😂

[@HeadsetHistorian]

​@@il-conteWhy is that scary? Genuinely asking, I don't understand. You mean like a company would fire you and keep an AI clone instead?

[@FerrisMcLaren]

@@HeadsetHistorianNothing is completely secure. Someone could hack meta, steal your biometrics, and make you say something you never said. Maybe you're then arrested for threatening a president or canceled for an opinion you don't actually share. Joe Rogan had his voice stolen to promote a fake ad against his will. Think more about how this data could be used maliciously. Look up Joan is Awful.

[@shalasalazar4930]

I love seeing the contrast between just how at home Zuck looks compared to Lex. I wonder how many hours he's spent in Metaverse. Love how blown away Lex is. Just extraordinary!

[@micro2cool]

Zuck is a genius, everyone was doubting meta but this is the future

[@01_SPACE_C0WB0Y]

Yeah I honestly have came to a more positive opinion about him and meta after listening to him on this and JRE

[@JCBCoin]

😂 duuuurrrr

[@iakobkv271]

lets fucking gooo

[@Johnny_Savage]

he wants to steal all your biometric data

[@David.Alberg]

​@@Johnny_Savagelol bro if you are worried about that shit than don't own a phone like wtf 😂

[@Gatitdone]

If at all possible, how do you become a great conversationalist like Mark? I can listen to him talk all day long

[@MiguelTrujillo1]

I think that the key is practice. Zuckerberg is the voice of Meta, so he is talking all the time (i.e., to investors, news reporters, politicians, direct reports within Meta) and having conversations all day long.

[@Vampyr_000]

He's not perfect. He has had mess ups. To become articulate, you can start writing daily, practice thinking critically when it comes to formulating language, and have a lot of conversations.

[@ShadyRonin]

Lex: “and it doesn’t feel awkward to be really close to you” Zuck: “no it does…”

[@MosesMatsepane]

😂😂😂😂 At least we know Mark ain’t Sus.

[@jacobfrye996]

Wow, I am absolutely blown away by the accuracy of Lex's face. They have crossed the uncanny valley. Mark's isn't quite as good, too many reflections, but still incredible

[@poseurlol]

mark's face is just inherently uncanny

[@francomenotti191]

mark was too sweaty while scanning i bet🤣

[@deep_fried_analysis]

It's probably because there are innumerably more video footage of Lex and all positions of his face compared to Mark. We are pretty much looking at 3d video footage on a 2d screen. Or in their perspective, they are looking at 3d within 3d.

[@nuckfugget3415]

Technology isn't quite to where "Mark" a cyborg can be 100% realistic

[@dhdhskkAndbfhkdkzmxnx]

Absolutely insane. The timing is perfect as well to show it. This summer Apple presents blurry videos on Facetime using their headset and Mark casually drops this out of future tech. Best I've seen so far even though I can experience it only in 1080p

[@louistulloch1159]

You can trust it's a money move.

[@glenmerwyn5195]

I'm 51. I joined Facebook in 2009, and I've never seen, or heard, Mark Zuckerberg before, except a video of him speaking to Congress (I'm a Kiwi / NZ in NZ). I appreciate Mark doing this interview.

[@tomamerman7699]

This is insane. Kudos to Mark and the Meta team.

[@holonaut]

imagine the possibilities on onlyfans

[@frankjonestba]

Totally!

[@threeofeight197]

Yeah. Wow. 👏👏👏

[@jacheto]

I have to be honest, this is the first time in all those metaverse bullshit years that I am actually 'wow...this might actually be good'

[@ReachTea]

But this is just Video call on steroids, what the metaverse is actually is just a giant business opportunity

[@Makyah]

this is really fuckin cool

[@ChristopherCricketWallace]

Has no one seen Star Wars (or half of the futuristic sci-fi movies in the last century)? Yeah this could be cool (and terrifying) if done right.

[@tbd407]

it's been like 2 years, you must be like 15 haha

[@dcap09876]

They just basically made hologram phone calls like star wars

[@SuperBitmouse]

This might sound weird, but, for the first time I have empathy and/or compassion for Mark Zuckerberg. Like, I think I get it now.

[@Skip2MeLou1]

Me too it's weird

[@mikew466]

I also think it helps that there are so many more awful CEO's and businesses out there at the moment. So Meta is becoming an almost lesser of two evils kind of thing.

[@freeweezybitches]

I get what you mean. This ended up way more incredible than I think we expected it to. Pretty remarkable

[@coppersky]

Just remember it was a bunch of old dudes that were putting him in a negative light.

[@credman]

Turns out thinking you know someone based on a few impressions of them in the media is silly. Who knew?

[@godparticle1470]

Great interview, Lex! You both made some great points, very thought provoking.

[@AetherSummers]

This is absolutely incredible. Thanks for putting it all together!

[@WesterLundWorld]

This is fascinating! Lex's podcast is really full of landmark episodes

[@armanpakan]

Lex maintaining eye contact with the guest, It's so uncanny!

[@bilalazhar4495]

loll this comment man

[@bromspad2387]

for real. There's no where else to look!

[@scottthomas5261]

Pretty unreal how fast things are moving.

[@stanschloesser6725]

Mark is extremely fortunate to have someone like Lex to present this to the world. Knowing the troubles that meta has been encountering should help sell this to stockholders. Lex just saved him around 400 million dollars. Lol

[@artseye00]

🎯

[@АлексейСтаценко-р1м]

Digital robot-lizards watch eachother's backs

[@kanej7572]

Facts lol

[@joshuahyde5534]

Buying Long OTM calls Monday 😂

[@VinOnline]

I had no idea the 3D was this advanced, this is actually insane.

[@thephilosopher7173]

Keep in mind they spent a lot of money to make this happen. So it’s definitely there, it just takes a while before it’s commercialized

[@SIgor420]

3D in general is far far far more advanced then you see it here.

[@jayrain8602]

This is like a hologram

[@beemrmem3]

The 3D. Haha

[@Tricia-Tricia]

Yes, the evolution of 3D technology in recent years has been truly amazing. With advances in computer hardware, software, and graphics processing power, 3D technology has become incredibly immersive and realistic.

[@jangruber42]

I am grinning ear to ear right now. This is absolutely amazing! No words...

[@Saeder]

I was absolutely grinning, too, for the first several minutes! ☺️

[@DeonCarr-dd7el]

I have a Quest Pro, what app are you guys using to dot this?

[@JackKolesar]

Blown away. Absolutely blown away. I cannot believe the level of detail on emotion capture. I have never been a fan of FB but this is absolutely next level. I even have a couple Oculus headsets and I was super impressed by the tech. But damn...this is nuts.

[@kthxbye1132]

The level of detail is impressive but the actual expressions and micromovements are little dampened.

[@joos3D]

@@kthxbye1132 I agree but I wonder how much of that is due to the resolution of the footage. It's not as crisp as the camera footage, but considering how Lex is reacting I'm assuming it looks more compelling in VR. But with how convincing the shading looks it could just be that the added 3D element takes it so much further.

[@kthxbye1132]

@@joos3DIt's compelling and convincing in VR but it's not the full story of facial motion capture. Take a look at the comparison with playbackspeed 0.5 and you'll see that sometimes the mouth is more open than from the avatar.

[@Xechor]

11:50 I'm blown away by this system's capacity to accurately portray Lex's squint when thinking of a question. Very impressive rendition of such a complex emote!

[@archaeologistify]

"Do you have a timeline..." Deep

[@JamesWitte]

even zuck is taking it in haha

[@mariobudal8850]

It's funny, though; how it made it look like he was checking his notes, as he does from time to time in regular episodes.

[@janimalius]

I think they prerecorded a number of expressions and the system is playing them back (it's a sort of playback and not simulation), but yea the effect is neat.

[@archaeologistify]

@@janimaliusYea from what I understand it is a combination of pre-recorded expressions + actual in real time expression adjustments. Very cool tech

[@Lorendrawn]

Imagine a VR podcast where you're sitting at the old JRE table listening to Joey Diaz go off on your right and Rogan dying of laughter ahead of you

[@lights369]

And they’re ai replicas that allow you to join in on the conversation

[@ToniusPlays]

You can bet this will be the future of podcasts.

[@Danuxsy]

This tech would be great for people with social anxiety to practice speaking with real looking people

[@AfonsoMiranda22]

Lex is reading my mind on what questions to ask.

[@Dan-yh8qp]

This is seriously historic. Are you going to release the next interview in VR compatible form so we can experience this as well? Crazy few years ahead!

[@abrahamdomingo8239]

I’m so glad to be young today, I wonder sometimes about what technology will be like in 4 or 5 decades

[@moonlightning8269]

@@abrahamdomingo8239i often think of when the iphone came out when i was a young teen, and how dramatically different the world is now, less than 20 years later. Things are gonna get real weird

[@pomonoli]

Oh shit I didn't even think about that, that would be insane! And don't forget rule 34!

[@hankagura5355]

@@abrahamdomingo8239Gotta stay healthy and pray to experience everything we can 😅

[@Tedi652]

​@@pomonolithat makes everything worse.

[@meditationhealingfrequenci2944]

Crazy that even Lex's feeling of awe and child-like joy comes across through his avatar!

[@Butterflieslove2]

🤮🤮🤮

[@Joseph-on7nf]

Lex has become the most powerful person in the world. In three short (or long) conversations he's changed the zuck's image for millions around the world. Lex what are you going to do with so much power? Can only hope it'll be for good.

[@jin6000]

Yea, great, why don’t we get war criminals on next and make people love them too? Wont that be great? 🎉

[@threeofeight197]

He is definitely good but his AI duplicate is another story. 😬😬😬

[@indigo7301]

Only Lex can make Mark seem human