Lexus LC 500 Vs Lexus RC F....Is The LC 500 a Scam?

[@MeynMotorGroup]

See my 2020 RC F Review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3-pmYGiiKxjhMU I know this was a long one but hopefully you found value with it regardless. Too many people out here who think both cars are the same. But, leave your thoughts below on what you think about each car. Also, follow me on insta and twitter @exhaustsports or you may become a Patreon member for more updates. Thanks again for stopping by.

[@SergCarReviews]

Sooo different!! LC though all day 👌

[@swiftmovers3827]

The LC is the only reason I ever started looking at Lexus in the first place. It's not just a car, it's a work of art on wheels.

[@zippmth6786]

My take on the comparison after owning 2020 RC-F for a year and driving 2021 LC500 (both with top packages & coupes): looks are subjective but LC 9.5, RCF 8, Engine sound: LC 9, RCF 7.5, Dash/Touch Places/Tech: LC 8.5, RCF 8, Handling: LC 8, RCF 9, Speed: LC 7.5, RCF 8.5, Cabin Space: Front LC 9, RCF 9, Back Seats: LC 3, RCF 7, Trunk: LC 4, RCF 8, Attention Gathering from bystanders: LC 10, RCF 7.5. To me, RCF is more sports car than LC, accelerates/breaks better in real world, can push in corners with more confidence (subjective) and you sit in more natural position. If you are buying with carbon roof you will feel you are in a submarine in LC vs RCF you still have some head room to feel comfy (I am 5.11 not even 6ft...etc.). LC is lowered to accommodate the weight/size but you are getting a sculpture art piece versus driving machine. LC s looks, feels, longer, bigger without any space given back to your cabin or trunk. LC's back seats are for insurance or babies, you can't even put toddlers there. RCF you can put kids back seats for short trips without protest (school pickup ...etc.) and can carry your luggage to airport. If I do all over again, I will still go for the RCF but with fuji track edition, the car looks so much better in that form...

[@BeesonsCars]

The LC has to be one of the most beautiful cars of all time. Just stunning. It’s somehow even better in person.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I agree def better in person

[@seinundzeiten]

Yes I saw one in person...it is like a work of Art....a sculpted masterpiece-

[@craigmak]

Yep, LC 500 and previous V8 Vantage are the best looking cars ever.

[@Mike.3GS]

broo the back of it🥵😩😩

[@BeesonsCars]

ツ_Riftz she thicc as hell

[@cargueone1971]

LC is worth every penny

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Definitely haha

[@Midwest..]

And RCF I like both 😎👍

[@cargueone1971]

@@friendlyghost116 I'm talking quality, style, and refinement. There's no AMG GT close to that price, they are much more expensive and is a different buyer altogether. The C8 is a completely different car, and it's customer based is looking at different things. Yes a mustang has the power, but none of the refinement, style and sophistication. It takes a special buyer to see the specialness of the LC. So for what it offers, it's worth the price.

[@BobbyDigital_100]

Amen! Worth every penny and more!😎

[@jimmylang7234]

Init it’s made for luxury

[@cbgavin]

One of the best real world reviews of these 2 coupes. Personally ended up with the RCF mainly because of the seat accommodation. Glad you pointed that part out since 99% of reviewers fail to mention their size and shape relative to the seat of the car. I’m 6 ‘2” and 250lbs, as much as the LC blows the RCF out of the water in most aspects I wasn’t comfortable sitting in it after 20-30 minutes. Now if they put the RCF’s seats in the LC500, then its definitely game over.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Appreciate it my friend! And massive congrats on the RC F truly an epic machine I hope you put an exhaust on yours

[@guillermoverde81]

Adelgazar no esta en tus planes?

[@danielmiller9012]

Damn i feel for ya haha I'm 6 ft 2 180 lbs but the LC seats are perfect for me

[@wespower133]

Just bought an RCF yesterday, didn’t quite have LC money, but man am I impressed! I love this car

[@fastfixelectronics7253]

Just bought a Lexus certified LC . Finally purchased my dream car

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Massive congrats you wont be disappointed

[@90snino89]

Thank you! When people say it's just an expensive Toyota I just have to laugh in their face. Thing is they've never driven one either 😂

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Correct my friend that's the main thing, the people running their yap on the internet have zero experience and most likely don't even have a drivers license. The Lexus cars are amazing to drive on the road, not just their performance cars

[@SkylineLofe]

@@MeynMotorGroup I can confess to this. My family owns a 2005 Lexus RX330 Thundercloud Edition. No joke, thing is really fun to drive. Even took it to the track once. It was really really fun.

[@TheDavcrz5]

When people tell me my Lexus is just Toyota that's when I tell them then Cadillac is GM, Porsche are just Volkswagen, Lamborghini Huracan are just Audi. Just bunch of haters.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Exactly

[@ayremax]

@@TheDavcrz5 Lambo > Audi > Volkwagen, just goes back down too. I love your "Camry" =P

[@prasiddha1986]

Beautiful rides, both of them. LC is crazy good looking.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I agree my friend thanks again for stopping by!

[@DLPTonyATL]

I’m not generally a coupe fan, but the LC500 speaks to me. Once I finally got the chance to drive it at an event sponsored by Lexus, it became my lottery car. (all options/packages) When I’m done with my ‘16 IS350 FSport and the 4th gen IS, the Structural Blue LC500 will be next in my stable. 💙

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yes def an emotional car for sure. The RC 350 and IS 350 F sport cars are super rewarding still out on the road but would love to see you in that blue LC my friend you will have it!

[@dontcare563]

That color was limited production and my understanding is they sold out! Sorry!

[@craigmak]

Just wait a few years and they will be under $40k. The 2018 has already gone down from $100k to $60k in the used market.

[@AlexSchwartzATV]

Man Lexus just really fucking gets it with the LC. Im soooo happy they didnt go for a spec sheet car or a super fast top performer. The combination of elegance, style, sounds... just everything. its a dream. like a Japanese Aston but a bit more slick.

[@craigmak]

Alex Schwartz yep, my thoughts exactly. It’s a reliable Aston V8 Vantage. I had my eye on that car until the LC 500 came out. I just wish there was a manual option.

[@xro1589]

The LC is one of the most beautiful cars ever made

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I agree!

[@xro1589]

Naturally aspirated beauty VS turbo... You don't make sense, but ok.

[@learcaniahell989]

I think LFA is better

[@BPoweredLove]

I say that too but always add "by man" or "in all of mankind" just to punch the sentiment up a little. There have been times that I thought the LC500 is so beautiful that I don't deserve to own one and drive it.

[@Radhit-1316]

@@xro1589 turbo makes the car unstable when exit the corners

[@Zero8880]

Totally agree about not modifying the LC 500. Definitely if it's their car to do with what they want, but many of the modded LC's that I've seen lost all of it's magnificence in it's stock form. Adding the ground effects and aftermarket spoilers, and partial wraps, it all makes the LC look like a modded IS or R. The elegance of it's natural form is unmatched imo.

[@TheNickhammond]

What about adding armytrix exhaust? that is my dillema

[@Zero8880]

@@TheNickhammond That is one mod that I definitely makes the LC looks so much nicer. I think the stock exhaust tips should be a staggered quad exhaust just like the armytrix tips. It's a crime that they are hidden away. Don't get me wrong, I still love the look of current setup, especially when the chrome contrasts seamlessly against my Caviar Black paint, but those quad tips are just gorgeous and sound amazing on the LC 500. I just don't think I'm willing to drop $5k on it, given that I may have to upgrade to a larger vehicle in a year or two.

[@Zero8880]

@@TheNickhammond But if money isn't an issue, and you are keeping the car for a while, I would definitely do it! I don't know how that affects your warranty though. I would look into it if you have a bit of time remaining on your warranty.

[@TheNickhammond]

I have a 2018 and purchased a 4 year added warranty. 5k is steep but if I save I might get it. I can keep original pipes and swap out with a newer model in a couple years would be my plan. There’s also the Yamaha performance dampeners. I have the performance pack and it’s a bit stiff. I heard the dampeners are nice. Not sure if I could add those or should with the performance pack.

[@Zero8880]

@@TheNickhammond Nice!! Enjoy your new baby and get ready to have people staring at your car everywhere you go! This car definitely borders on the level of "exotic", just bc most people have no idea what it is unless they actively research it. I've owned mine for half a year now, and I still have yet to see another one on the road. Compare that to the C8, which is also a beautiful car, but I see them literally EVERYWHERE now. I only mention this bc, before I bought my LC, I narrowed my decision down to the C8 and LC. I'm glad I went with the LC, besides it being more practical as an everyday driver car, it is much more rare.

[@moneyhunter6019]

Drove an LC 500 for the first time last week; life changing. Definitely on the top of my list sans super cars now. A truly unique driving experience and interior feel. The quality is A1.

[@alanhung1428]

The RCF is like the Lexus version of C63 AMG coupe where as thr LC500 is closer to the CL / SL500 from Mercedes. LC has way more class hands down

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I guess you can look at it like that but these cars feel so unique for the respective classes they just feel like they're in their own world lol. I love both if bought at the right price

[@MeynMotorGroup]

So I did get the torsen but unfortunately I have not driven an LC without to tell you if there is a difference. But the option only costs like 300 dollars so pretty much every LC comes with the Torsen. I don't have the performance package though and I have not driven a car that has it

[@cybertron1000s]

The LC is Lexus trying to make an Aston Martin.

[@RubberChickenMan007]

This is interesting. I have a friend that bought the LC500 after owning the RC for 2 years. His opinion is the rc felt more raw and he actually preferred it. I now own his rc, it's a fantastic car. The fact it gets 30 mpg on the freeway is amazing. The trunk on the rc is also larger.

[@Tanfo77]

Huh? The RCF does 30 on highway? I have the RC 350 that has lower HP and always have eco mode, I just best @ 25 mpg doiing 65-70 mph.

[@RubberChickenMan007]

@@Tanfo77 yes. Toyota put in 2 different cams in the engine that run on different cycles. Basically one is for performance and the other for fuel economy. If I regularly drive long road trips I typically average 30-32 mpg. If I drive like a baboon I get 13-16 mpg.

[@noddlecak3279]

@@RubberChickenMan007 like a baboon 💀😭

[@Tanfo77]

@@RubberChickenMan007 So you have the RCF? I'm calling BS on the 30mpg on this.

[@RubberChickenMan007]

@@Tanfo77 yeah I do. Call bs all you want, the car can do 30 mpg in eco mode.

[@BobbyDigital_100]

This video reminds me how everything I’ve done to my LC has made it less comfy and daily driveable lowering, wide wheels,etc😂 love it even more 🔥😍

[@coolme241]

First 20 seconds and I want the lc500

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Lolol 😆 yea I understand

[@RandenMontalvo]

For me driving both much prefer the RCF because it’s designed for the race track and fuel purpose. The LC is more ambience. If Lexus never made F cars I would’ve never picked up a LC and went German so for me a LC maybe for when I get older and hit the golf courses but just gives me SC430 vibes in terms of purpose.

[@Desertduleler_88]

I started taking notice of the Lexus RX350 on well the fit and finish is, then I saw the LC500....... That's in a world of it's own, a very under rated car.

[@cagada]

The RCF looks so nice in white 🤩

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I know right and it has a nice pearl effect

[@jettaboi2k]

The LC500 is just on a different level on sound and especially style. I currently own a customized 2015 IS350 FSPORT that is on my KZbin Page but the LC is going to be replacing my IS. Good Job on the video man, wasn't annoying and very informative.

[@PlayafromtheHimalayas]

Did you ever get the LC?

[@jettaboi2k]

@@PlayafromtheHimalayas I decided to wait and let this car market chill out 😃

[@courtneybarnes7092]

A few points: the RCF, GSF, and LC500 are dropping in value quickly. I would never buy or lease these cars new. No point to throwing that money away. Of the 3, my guess is that the LC500 will definitely be a classic one day!!

[@danielbec4287]

No they are not.

[@SlowWhip]

Both LC500 and RC-F are gorgeous. LC looks like a supercar and I like what they did to RC-F for 2020. LC definitely sounds better stock. Do you daily drive the LC? If I had an LC, I’ll probably drive it only on Sunday because there are so many idiots here in Florida who can’t even properly park a car. Great review as always.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea I'm poor this is the only car I own lol so I need to shove the LC in between all of the idiots on the road haha

[@davem1708]

@@MeynMotorGroup poor but you own an LC500 lol

[@MeynMotorGroup]

@@davem1708 that's the reason why I'm poor, because I have the lc lolol 😅

[@Graphics_Card]

Florida 💀 I deal with it everyday! This state is a crazy state

[@dr.toanvo1770]

Lol "some guy in a tesla was busting his whole neck staring at this thing". Not sure why your sense of humor cracks me up more than it should. Well done on all your reviews, earned another sub good sir

[@MeynMotorGroup]

😅😂 appreciate it my friend and thank you so much for your support

[@MaddNomad1015]

RCF is just the older and smaller brother that was pretty athletic in High School but never took sports too seriously, where the LC is the younger, naturally athletic brother with straight A’s. Cant really lose either way as a Lexus fan

[@mattbarr2321]

37 minutes of Lexus content??

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha oh man I am humbled thanks so much my friend hope you found value

[@DarkFlare]

Nice video, I've been watching for a while and you got great content. I love all these vehicles and drive a 3rd gen GS 300 myself, 150k miles and still drives like new. Zero complaints with that purchase.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thanks so much and that is awesome! Love the older model GS cars they look great and they really do age the best great choice would love to find one to review

[@descendinggod9740]

Savage Geese did a perfect video comparison of these vehicles. Basically what I took away from that video and this, is the contrast of form over function. RC F is perfect function with horrible sound, non-luxury like feeling, and playful like RWD. LC 500 is a beauty of form, sounds absolutely amazing, perfect luxury like feeling, and is the grip like RWD.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

All of his videos are perfect lol. And yea I think he is literally the only other person aside from me to actually appreciate the Lexus performance cars. Primarily because we have a similar pragmatic understanding of cars and we never refer to spec sheets. Love both the LC and the RC F for sure. Thanks again for stopping by

[@KLRGT500KR]

You are full of it! RCF sounds amazing. Yes, it has piped in noise, but it still sounds incredible.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea Idk where the horrible sound came from but everything else sure 😆

[@KLRGT500KR]

@@MeynMotorGroup I agree with his form over function analogy for the RCF, but the interior totally feels like a $80+ K luxury car even if it shares some of the center stack with the IS350. The seats, fit, finish and quality are second to none.

[@aramboyd3906]

@@MeynMotorGroup Hey man I thoroughly enjoyed this comparison and I love your passion for Lexus vehicles especially these particular vehicles since they are my favorites of the Lexus line up. However I would love for you to do reviews on the AMG GT C and AMG GT R Coupes and also maybe a comparison between the base model AMG GT and ur LC 500 since they have a similar amount of power.

[@iheartgs400]

Being a Toyota/Lexus purist myself The LC500 is really a true spiritual successor to the 1st Generation SC300/400 Z30/Soarer. The RC-F is more akin to the A70 Supra/Mark 3 Supra. Great video once again Kevin, can’t wait to see the RC-F drops down in price in future. Also if you get a chance you should review the GS-F as well.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea that's a solid take on it RC F is kind of the closest thing to a Toyota built Supra. I prefer a V8 to a turbo anything any day.

[@KLRGT500KR]

Totally agree, but the 1st gen Soarer was in the era of the A80 MK4 Supra. A70 MK3 Supra was not built go quick around turns.RCF had a very high focus on turing capabilities as it needed to compete with other cars in this segment.

[@iheartgs400]

Exhaust Sports Auto I absolutely agree on this one I once had a A70 Supra Turbo as one of my first project cars turbos once they age are pita to maintain.

[@iheartgs400]

2ZZGE100 your right different eras.

[@tylerhowe7828]

Yo brother i watched all your videos on the LC (and no joke, hours of other review vids on it as well) and just pulled the trigger on one today. So fuckin stoked for it to come in. Just seems like such a work of art that I’m looking forward to holding for 10-20 years

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Tyler my friend massive congrats on your purchase Im so freaking happy for you! Man what an accomplishment, I know you won't be disappointed! Would you share with me what spec you got?

[@tylerhowe7828]

@@MeynMotorGroup so I was back and forth on color between Smoky granite mica and the nori green, but went with the smoky granite as that was my original preference and I think it makes the car look a bit more menacing. Had to go with the toasted caramel interior. And I got the performance package, mark levinson audio, all weather (wheel and mats), and the HUD. And of course it’s a 2021, went for the coupe instead of the vert.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Stunning absolutely stunning massive congrats 👏 2021 rides like butter! Enjoy!

[@lrod312]

In the long run I can see the LC become somewhat more valuable in the future. You don’t even have to mod the LC at all unless you’re going for the crazy big money ricer look. The only thing I’m not a fan of personally is the chrome rims. I wish they had a black option for the rims.

[@Llando]

I wanted the LC for years now, and I just recently got my placeholder RC350 which I actually absolutely love.

[@alanarzate93]

Definitely getting an rc in the future I want that v8 sound lc500 is on another level👌

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You should!

[@workoutguru3211]

Hey bro just in case ur curious the reason why the Lexus lc500 gets a better engine sound on the cabin as compared to the rcf is cuz the LC has dual intakes whereas the rest of the Lexus F cars lineup (rcf, isf and gsf) only has a single intake

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Ahh yes very good point totally forgot to mention that thank you!

[@cottagegymfun]

I will finally sell my beloved SC400 and get the LC500. Can't describe how satisfied I am with the SC. The LC is ridiculously at another level.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I've been looking everywhere for an SC to review lol. Such a rare and cool car but you will love the LC my friend, it will not disappoint let me know when you get it

[@mechanicalintentions5431]

@@MeynMotorGroup would love to see the grand dad SC430 on the channel. If I was close I would definitely give it up you for a review.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Search the channel! I already did one

[@mechanicalintentions5431]

@@MeynMotorGroup sorry! I am new to you but loving it so far. Will look through it all

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Haha 😄 no worries my friend I've done a lot of reviews hard to sort through them all but I'm super humbled to have your support! Thank you

[@workoutguru3211]

Thank u so much for uploading this video. I'm sure a lotta subscribers wanted this badly

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Appreciate that my friend thank you

[@llavero5]

25:33 LC transmision is not double clutch, like PDK, so is slower, and PDK is smooth so cant be better than a PDK. In fact i read 0,4" for the Aisin gearbox of the LC500 and 0,09" for a GT3 PDK. But for me the biggest handicap of the LC500 is the poor sport performance, but still a top level GT. And cant explain how a 4.77m car dont have usable rear seats :S and too wide, it can be a nightmare for park in a city. So te biggest problem of this car is the 911.

[@puravida5683]

I was torn between the 2021 BMW Z4 40i, and the 2021 Lexis LC500. Once I drove and experienced the luxurious interior of the LC500, I knew it was the car I was going to buy! Now, I'm torn between the coupe and the convertible!

[@tonymykhaylovsky7505]

Which did you end up picking? I'm leaning toward the coupe in some wild color (yellow at this point)

[@TeutonicSpeedracer]

LC is beautiful and luxurious GT--Nothing else looks like it in person. RC F is more sporty, lighter. Own a GS F. Wish the RC F and GS F got the 10spd.--But both are track ready with oil coolers, etc. Savage Geese!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea I'm def still satisfied with the RC F for sure 8 speed does perform great in the Sport Plus manual mode. Would love to try a GS F as well. Great underrated performance cars that normal people can buy into and keep for the long haul thanks again for watching!

[@2010ngojo]

I have no idea why a coupe would weigh 300 pounds more than a sedan. It has the same V8 engine, so what the heck? It's unnecessary heavy.

[@carsonkidd9375]

Personally the RC F looks a lot meaner and better than the LC in my opinion, but the LC looks more luxurious and sounds better, i’d still take the RC F over the LC 500

[@amazingamazigh6847]

You’re delusional

[@danielmiller9012]

LC has better ride quality, looks better, and has better interior.

[@FAUNASO]

I was in love with the LC 500, exterior and interior but I was a tiny bit disappointed with the exhaust, it sounded great but only about 25% louder than a regular RC F. Once I found out about the RC F Track edition, I was sold. Backseats are actually usable, titanium exhaust has a great tone to it, the lightweight carbon ceramic brakes and rotors make a huge difference in handling and braking and the matte color is just badass. Basically it's the closest that an RC comes to being on par with an LC but with noticeably better driving dynamics and usability although LC still has it beat in the interior department!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Very nice my friend that’s epic I haven’t been able to try the track edition but I believe it is An amazing car. Enjoy & cheers

[@FAUNASO]

@@MeynMotorGroup Thank you! LC is still often in my mind and trying to convince my brother to buy a perf pkg so I can enjoy it every once in a while lol!

[@dumbdoms]

*Saying both cars are the 'same' because they share the same engine is like saying siblings are basically the same because they share the same parents* If you have siblings or have seen how siblings act, no two siblings are exactly the same despite having the same parents.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

That's a great way to describe it lol

[@Radhit-1316]

**please lower volume** Me: MAXIMUM VOLUME!!!!

[@rossgoodwin2700]

Honestly seems like a very biast review , lc500 is a gentleman's continental tourer the rcf Is a local everyday sporty type vehicle. Its like reviewing or comparing a BMW m4 to a BMW 845ci. ,- still great comparison and fair play for doing the clip

[@durtymisfit9454]

Subbed !! Thanks for this review, I have an ISF and getting an LC or RCF next year, this will help.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks and God Bless my friend I'm sure you will love either car IS F is already a great vehicle 👍

[@dru4135]

You've convinced me. I own a '19 GT-R but want a second car and LC seems like it's going to be the one.

[@jordanbuttkevitz6895]

Eh... at the end of the day the RCF and GSF are actual track cars - no different than M or AMG. The LC500 is missing the F marque for a reason - it’s not a bad thing but that it appeals to different buyers.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

For most people, their track is Gran Turismo/Forza :)

[@lostalx]

LC 500 is a league of it's own due to the price bracket its over 110K for a bespoke which is the only variant worth buying as there are a ton of convertibles in general market vs Coupe which is one to get. RC F handling is much better than LC 500, the F car is built across the race tracks to make it a homologation for GT3 program, LC 500 is built on an TNGA-L LS platform, due to that high weight it is not suited for track that means not that you are going to track these but the vehicle is not upto the mark for the Track performance that means - No auxiliary oil and trans coolers, no TVD. LSD is good but not spectacular. The body of RCF is also bespoke as its built around 3 cars to give that stability at high speeds and high G cornering vs the LC 500, boat. For most of the folks RC F is the way to go, IS 500 has bumper sag and it won't be anywhere close to an F car. Many bemoan how AA80E is slow vs LC 10 spd, it's not true at all. S+ with M mode in RC F will get you in jail or an accident, many idiots on YT claim how ZF in BMW is superior or whatever BS they say about DCT, the thing is Aisin unit is built like a tank and won't let you down at all. LC 500 10 spd hunts for gears and too damn heavy too, and it has a plastic pan like ZF units in BMW. CF option in RCF is best as it skips the moonroof BUT the metal roof in RC F is very solidly made and helps a lot with rigidity too and better road noise, summer, winter months. That said I love my RC F, beautiful car has a sport history, built on track. IMSA GT3 wins and it even won in LeMans GT3 class beating 911s, Corvettes, BMWs.

[@jamessheldon2410]

Though, both are about offering combination between performance and luxury, if one evaluated the cars on performance/capabilities/quickness first then RCF especially with the TVD would be the better choice especially on the track while LC500 is the better high performance/luxury car that you can use daily as a luxury/street car. It has the better bespoke engineering.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

For sure only one problem tho, even the spec sheet heros won't take their cars to a track. Their idea of a track is Gran Turismo :)

[@fredgen4811]

Great job as always, Nice comparison, the RCF on the track will go sideways than the LC is more stable. You need to drive the GSF. It's another kind of beast, and on the road course it feels very well balanced.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thanks again sir and yes! Def want to try the GS F heard great things about it especially since it is on its own dedicated platform. Longer wheelbase wheel help with stability as well although RC F was very stable too. Thanks again hope to try a GS F soon

[@fredgen4811]

Hi Kevin I am trying to buy an LC500 2021 Green and toasted caramel for my birthday here in California, the dealers aren't making it easy to negotiate, they don't want to lower the price I guess I might have to look out of state.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Nice let me know when you get it! And I'm surprised Cali is usually the best place to negotiate a car. My car is a 2020 so I got a 9k discount off MSRP but this is back in May so the 2021 was around the corner. I'm guessing on a 2021 the most discount you could get right now is 5-6k off sticker unless you wanted to wait a bit but who knows also I leased my car so that may have something to do with it

[@Sarcastic_Asmodeus]

Damn I wish I had waited a few more years and bought the LC500. Well, at least I finished paying off my RCF. 😭

[@hansennaidoo9833]

would love to see you review the lexus lfa!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

If God willing my friend!

[@ilgwent8061]

DA MOST SENSUAL COUPE IN ITS CLASS AND BEYOND

[@alexandermonday3017]

Good detail review no nonsense ✌🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thank you my friend!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Thanx bro will be watching this whole video as usual real soon just wanted to give a quick thumbs up and shoutout 👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Bro thanks again and this is a long one too apologies there

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Exhaust Sports Auto apologies stop bro lol the more the better especially with Lexus cars u already know 😎👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Your support is on another stratosphere brother cant thank you enough!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Exhaust Sports Auto Never a problem to support u and your channel bro your the Truth

[@BamaScorpio69]

I can look at these two cars and tell they are completely different. That said, I would be proud to own an RC although the LC has a killer look!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Absolutely! I would be ecstatic to even own an RC 350 F Sport phenomenal street car.

[@craigmak]

I wouldn’t want to settle for an RC and then see the LC 500. It would make me too jelly. Gotta go top shelf.

[@tonymykhaylovsky7505]

@@craigmak this

[@aurorajones8481]

Not to mention the car is made by Takumi masters. I mean that's awesome when you know whats involved in that title. The history of the plant the LC's are made in. If you factor ALL that in combined with the actual car itself. Your left with this world class item. Next level and those who don't know...personally it makes it that much better to me cause you don't know but I do.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Very true

[@atanasvasilev3228]

LC500 is actually the best car made to this date in history. No other car combines design, performance, high quality, luxury, super reliability, acceptable price like Lc500. It is the best of the best! Amazing car! Always stunned when I see her.

[@ZS-xi4xk]

I actually think the RC-F looks better, but the interior is miles ahead on the LC.

[@KLRGT500KR]

Another little known weird difference. The engines are tuned very differently. RCF's 2UR is rev-limited at 7400 rpm (7300 rpm redline) while the LC500 hits the rev limiter at 7100 rpm. Not sure why Lexus did it. I just saw in videos it hits rev limiter much earlier than the RCF. The rev limiter seems to hit at 7100 rpm on LC500. Also, RCF's chassis is a phenomenal chassis even if it was not created from the ground-up. It is the platform of choice for Lexus racing where the RCF GT3 has been winning endurance races with it. All with modified form of the same chassis and engine.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

RCF has a good chassis especially for a street car its too much on the road but when you experience cars like the LC and M3 there's just no comparison but RC F is comfortable and smooth still that matters a lot on the street

[@KLRGT500KR]

@@MeynMotorGroup Yes, I have driven both of these other cars. I get the LC500 chassis is considered the stifest in Lexus, but the RCF platform is race-proven and instrumental in its track capabilities. It is so rigid that Lexus said that they could make a convertible without any need for additional reinforcements. It is hard for me to isolate just the chassis when comparing to cars since the driver experiences the whole package together so I cannot compare chassis for chassis between LC500 and RCF because they feel so different like you said in the review. From that perspective, I experience RCF overall as a coherent package while exploiting the limits. I recorded frequent 1.2 - 1.4G instantaneous turns in my RCF G-meter. Considering RCF is less aggressively tuned than the M4 and is also heavier, it really speaks to the brilliance of the chassis and suspension balance that the gaps is not that big.

[@karraral-bahathly6990]

@@KLRGT500KR Would the carbon package be worth it in terms of look and weight?

[@Stiffler1109]

Just guessing, but the LC might have the rev limiter a bit lower due to the unique tranny's closer gear ratios in the lower gears. I'm envisioning the rpms climbing quicker after every shift. If shifting right at the redline to the next gear, the rpms aren't dropping much once in the next gear and so the engineers might see the higher potential for the engine to rev too far above the redline. Again, only guessing. I don't own one (thinking about it, hence, watching a lot of LC reviews), so only going by a couple of other LC reviews vids that spoke of the first 6 gears being fairly close to "normal" (maybe equally spread?), and that the last 4 are...well, didn't quite understand the explanation, maybe because the reviewer wasn't sure either. The other one who commented on the gear ratios said pretty much the same thing about the first 6 gears, and he definitely didn't know what was happening with the last 4. Something in the tranny's observed behavior had him thinking maybe gears 7-10 were all used only at freeway cruising speeds, shifting between them to optimize fuel economy. Anway, I understand the LC's 10-speed tranny was designed for and used only in the LC. I'd bet the gear ratios between the RC F and LC are different, which might be the reason the LC's rev limiter is set lower. Or...depending on how you want to look at it, the RC F's can be set higher because its tranny's characteristics allow it. I've seen some articles/vids claim the LC's redline is 7,300 and at least one other that stated it as being 7,100. I'm thinking either one of them was mistaken, or that Lexus made revisions to the later models. If that's the case, I'm curious why. Could be they revised the gear ratios in later model years, which in turn led to the revised redline. Or, they discovered either A) After the car's got significant miles on it, an issue or concern was revealed/realized that might have been due to the redline being set a bit too high, or the opposite. Maybe Lexus discovered that early production models were easily tolerating 7,100 rpms, giving them confidence that they could raise it a smidge. A couple of reviewers were saying peak hp doesn't develop until the top of the rpm range. If they later learned the engine can easily handle higher rpms than originally limited to, upping it 300 would allow it to produce a smidge more power. Obviously, just thinking out loud. If I ever learn the actual reasons, I'll try to remember to come back here let you know.

[@panarachhang9866]

Great video my friend. I watched your video viewing the LC500 that's why I bought mine last week and I love everything about it..got lots of heads turned every time I passed by or parked in lot.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Wow massive congrats my friend! I'm humbled my vids could help but I'm always so happy for the people that message me and tell me they bought an LC. If you have time, please share with me what specs and options you got on your new ride. Thanks again for all your support too

[@Graphics_Card]

Does this thing pick up speed?

[@ITunes02]

The LC will still have this futuristic look even after 10 years

[@courtneybarnes7092]

Second point, I can just about afford a 2016 GSF now. However, I’m thinking I might hold off and wait for the LC500’s to drop to into the 40’s. I might have to wait 5 years for that though. Luv the GSF though❤️❤️

[@princejames287]

Just seen the LC today and had to find out more. At first on Lexus website , i thought the RC was the car i seen. But no, it was the LC. LC or nothing. No disrespect to anyone with any type of RC. But for me it has to be a LC or nothing. ✌️ PS: I actually wanted a C8, but i think the LC has better headroom then the C8. So real talk, the LC is better then a C8. PSS: And i have always HATED Lexus. So coming from a dude that had ALWAYS hated Lexus. And NEVER have wanted a Lexus. And actually planned on getting a C8. But for the first time randomly seeing a LC today. I even told my family, that i need to get that car, not even knowing the name of it. Its that good looking.

[@EpicTube84]

Nice video and comparisons

[@thomastran9713]

I would get the LC if the backseats were a little bigger. Can’t fit a baby seat back there unlike my RCF 😭

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yes RC F is deceptively usable both the rear seats and the trunk im so happy you got one fantastic ride

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

The LC is such a pretty car, one of the prettiest on the road. The problem for me is that it’s a fairly aggressive looking car, with a great NA motor and sound, but because of the weight, suspension, transmission, and look, it just lacks that 10 percent that makes it really unique and tempting. It’s kind of like having the M 650, but knowing there is a M6 that you missed out on (speaking of which, how does one come up with it driving like a $250k car? Seems to me like it drives very similar to the........$100k car that it is, which is nothing to be ashamed of, but it isn’t a Bentley, rolls on one side, and it isn’t a 488, GT2RS, Aventador, etc.....so what $250k does it drive like?). At any rate, would be amazing if Toyota could do an F version of the car, gunmetal grill, carbon bits on interior, more aggressive wheels, slightly lower stance, squeeze another 50-70 HP, firmer suspension and maybe save 300-400lbs. Btw, you also called it a “sport car” and then you talk about how great the weight is. Lots of mixed messages. Let’s be honest, it’s a luxury coupe for a wealthy 70 year old that’s a “smart alternative” (reliable) to a car like the 6 series or SL, etc. nothing to be ashamed of, but man, this guy is trying to sell this thing. Ohhhh and superior transmission to the PDK? Ok, I’m just to that point in the video, I’m done, you obviously don’t drive a lot of real sports cars, I’m out and off to driving my 911. Lol. Later

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You're the typical Euro fan boy I don't blame you 99% of people are like you. You're too fixated on numbers to understand the nuances of driving feel. Not even worth the energy trying to explain it I'm not going to get anything out of "convincing" you out of the 0-60 mindset

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

@@MeynMotorGroup actually couldn’t be further from the truth. Family happens to be in the dealership business, most of the dealers are Acura and Honda and other Japanese brands. Actually the only euro brand we carry is VW. Lol. My brother also happens to work for Toyota corp in Texas. I really love and respect Japanese cars more than Euro cars. In fact, 99% of the people that drive mercs, BMWs, etc, ONLY do it for the badge. Yes, I’ve owned an M3, I now have a 911 In the stable. I always maintain that if it isn’t an M, I wouldnt touch a BMW and if it isn’t an AMG, I wouldn’t touch a Merc and if it isn’t an RS, I wouldn’t touch an Audi, the baseline cars simply aren’t that special and everyone acts like they are because they are German 🤦🏼‍♂️. That being said, I think your missing the truly special quality of the sport versions of those cars. For the most part, the Japanese haven’t matched it (NSX is the closest thing, very underrated). I’d probably rather have the LC than an SL or a 640, but if we are talking about an AMG GTR, M6, or any 911 Variant, they really can’t match it. But the thing that blew me away is when you say things like the shifter is “better” than a PDK. I don’t know any auto journalist on the planet that would make that claim, NONE. Oh, and when talking performance, weight is NEVER a good thing, never! Is it OK as far as luxury? Yep! Not performance. It just isn’t. Basic physics.

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

@@MeynMotorGroup btw, also, if you mention nuances of driving, my whole drum that I beat is driving dynamics. That’s why I am a huge proponent of the Pcars sticking with proper manuals. Yea, my 911 is a manual and I won’t have it any other way. Driving dynamics and “nuances” when comparing a 2 ton luxury car in an auto vs a real sports car at 3000lbs, rear or mid engine, etc etc. I think we are defining “nuances” differently. And yep, I’m looking at numbers, cause I race cars and karts and i live in a world a tenth of a second at a time. We do a ton of practice and also tuning to find .2-.3 tenths of a second. But I’m all about performance and couldn’t give AF about luxury outside of basic leather interior. Lol

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Read my response to you on the other vid, hopefully it makes more sense. Complicated subject to explain I made 2 40 min vids now on the LC but honestly just a waste of time nobody really understands 😆 whatever. My problem with M cars is their catastrophic ride quality it's just never fun on the street honestly I think most Euro cars feel soulless on the street. But that's just me, I agree with none of these mainstream journalists, they're to fixated on brand cache and specs. I will never deny the capabilities of something like an M car or 911 it's def there but for a street car I find my wants to be more complex.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yep 2 totally different perspectives what makes a great street car Will never make for a great race car, great race car would blow on the streets such as life

[@snowcountry322]

Should I get the carbon roof and spoiler for the RC F or do you think they are at odds with the styling of the car?

[@countspankulots4024]

Is this like comparing an Jaguar F-Type R and an XKR? Like one is smaller, more nimble and an agressive car while the other is larger, smoother and more elegant?

[@teemagict1175]

Good video, Well put together, I like how you deliver the information and your honesty 👏👏👏 🤜🤛

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I appreciate that!

[@AbzAden]

We all know the LC is the big daddy but if I can’t get a used one in the market I’m definitely gonna get a CPO RCF

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You will love the RC F! Get a CPO one for around 45k and you will be very happy with it

[@handymani4502]

The LC is a display of Art, Music, And a very unique driving Sensation that can be comparable to driving around smooth canyon roads at sunset with clear chilly air flowing into the cabin with the compliments of the engine growl.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Eloquently put 😊

[@jbm0866]

Totally agree, the LC 500 is in a class of it's own, a very different car than the RC-F even though they share the same engine/trans. In my opinion the LC 500 is the coolest looking 2 door grand touring coupe you can buy brand new. Not the fastest, not the best handling...but the best all around in whatever segment it competes in. A guy in my parking garage has a black LC 500 coupe and parks 3 spaces away from my '21 Mazda 3 Turbo hatch. We have by far the coolest looking cars on our row, but I'd say he upstages me by quite a bit.😂 Edit- forgot the LC 500 has the 10 speed trannie, and I believe it's the only Lexus/Toyota product that uses it? That's pretty special...the 8 speed of the RWD LS/GS/IS wasn't quite quick shifting enough so they hooked the LC up with a 10 speed and magnesium shift paddles..magnificent!

[@rickmcdowell9550]

Just checked Auto Trader -- low mileage CPO 2018 LC 500's start in low $70k's and low mileage CPO 2019 LC 500's starting low $80k's -- no doubt a much better choice than a new 2020 or 2021 RC F.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Yea especially since Lexus CPO programs are so good but I guess some people just have to have a new car

[@jordanbuttkevitz6895]

I bought a 2016 GSF for 53k that had 5k miles. IMO if you manage to find a used one, it is a better option than an RCF - the supercar level of rarity alone (less than 3000 registered in US for all years ) will hopefully help it to become a classic. That being said I would not buy a new RCF/GSF - there are far too many better options at that price range including the LC500 (> $80k).

[@ogmechsftw]

@@2ZZGE100 i usually hear the GSF's handling is more balanced, while the RCF tends to plow.

[@ogmechsftw]

@@2ZZGE100 gotcha.

[@grapeshot23]

Great review, I also like the LC and RC ones. Trying to make up my own mind! 15:14 “meaty thrust”

[@landlubber42069]

Love the RC F but the LC500 is on another level

[@fuckkartoon4856]

the subtitles said [music] every time the lc revved 💀

[@drj2039]

I've gotta own something with a 2UR engine one day...

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You will my friend

[@gamerclips1882]

20k difference though, rcf is a beast for what it’s priced at especially in the used market

[@abcdLeeXY]

The RC was a low budget product forced by Lexus. While the LC is a precision crafted product envisioned by Lexus. The design, chassis, transmission and just overall detail of the LC is just 👌

[@ryanni1913]

I don’t really get the people about the trunk and back seat space. If you’re buying a 70-100k car, I am going to assume you have another car for trips or kids because you should be in the 150k income range. If you’re only going to have the one car, LC or RC, then you should probably be someone who is single or a bachelor.

[@abcdLeeXY]

People who can afford the LC would not prefer the style of the RCF

[@germanv8s877]

This is the best platform to build a 1000hp Toyota. 5.0 V8 which easily handle a RR supercharger, E85 and Upgraded fuel/pulley systems. This RCF is now 3900 pounds, with those back seats out it’s like 3600-3700 pounds which is the same as a GTI. Imo RCF is iNSANE!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

I would like my warranty intact 😆 or buy German for high horsepower crap since they seem to be at war with each other over spec sheets

[@bluecrimson6841]

Hey Kevin! So first time commenting on one of your videos but I’ve pretty much watched all your LC500 videos . I was about to place an order on a 2021 corvette C8 this month I’m but having second thoughts after all your LC500 videos haha. First time I saw a Lc500 IRL I was in awe , just looks out of this world, just how when I first got my first car a 2002 trd celica gts that I still have and caught my eye. Still haven’t seen a C8 in person so can’t compare. So one thing I had been wishing I could do was test drive both the C8/LC500 to really know for myself what I like based on the driving experience but know it’s almost impossible to test drive either of those.So if I go the LC500 route I might get it used, maybe a 2018 or 2019 with performance package if possible, but I’m also wondering if the little refinements/upgrades ( like suspension, tuning etc) each year make the 18/19 feel way different compared to a 2020 or 2021? Would you know? And also if I go the C8 route I might just wait for the ZO6 variant and hope it feels more connected. Just stuck between these two and can’t make up my mind since I feel like I’ll only be able to get one or the other and have it for 10 plus years or more hopefully . PS: Thanks for the little facts of how low the corvette C8 is compared to the lc500, good real world information to take into account.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Hey thanks so much my friend for being a supporter! And yes C8 and LC on paper two very different cars but both cars are the flashiest cars you can get for the money that is the most attention grabbing if that is important haha. I'm sure you know this but I am not Bias towards any car and when I drove my friends C8 I really wanted to like that car. I had so much hope and respect for that car, a 60k starting price mid engine car that real humans can afford, and all the reviews made it sound like it was hand made by Jesus Christ. I absolutely hated driving the C8, one of the worst cars very boring to drive because this first generation, they programed it that way. Lot of understeer so people won't crash, and the motor feels like nothing when you wring it out, I would rather have an RC F. Here's what the C8 is good at, it's comfortable, not as much as the 2019 and up LC with 21" rims but still very good. It also looks awesome to everyone in the outside world. Very wide and low, C8 attracts a tad more attention than LC primarily its the newest thing. This is why my friend likes the C8, he doesn't care about driving, he only wants to look cool and get girls and he never exceeds the speed limit. For that the C8 is perfect. If you want to feel anything and have an emotional connection LC is far better. Also build quality is no compromise of course, no panel gaps, no hoods flying off, interior is bank vault solid and LC will be a safer car to be in. Just my observations buying a 2019 CPO car is a good idea, no changes for 2020. 2021 is where they brought in a lot more changes and refinement so if you want to leass 2021 all day. Hope this helps

[@bluecrimson6841]

Exhaust Sports Auto No thank you for the detailed response and keeping it unbiased, I really appreciate it. And you are right, everybody praises it, it’s like stocks/stock market, like that saying that says when people are greedy and buying and buying be doubtful and fearful because a crash or dip is coming. And yeah I know people like that too that get cars or toys just to impress other people, for me if I get something it’s for me and for me to enjoy and experience. I asked my gf which one she likes between the 2 and just says the c8 looks like a toy car while the LC looks more manly and classy haha. And very good points on the last paragraph , I’ve heard of those issues with the C8 and it’s worrying , that a brand new car would have those issues especially at 60k -85k car. And I’d definitely want something that would last a very long time and is safe so thanks for mentioning those points too!

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Of course sir, both very important cars and when spending that much for a car, anyone deserves to be happy with it so I wanted to make sure I explained to the best of my ability what the two cars are like. I'm sure you could do an extensive test drive with the LC, Ive had it for about 2 months and Im not bored with it nor do I look at other cars on cargurus or autotrader, not even for fun lol Other cars worth looking into that I like are the F type Jag and C63s Amg. There will be sacrifice in interioe quality but C63s is a bit cheaper. CPO Porsche 911 cars hold value as well. And yes, always best to be cautious of hyped up cars. Best of luck my friend. Stay blessed

[@MarkScottAdams1]

Nice NC State hat BTW, go pack!...I’m considering the LC....beautiful car. Thanks for the review

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Appreciate that sir! Yes LC is amazing I know it will not disappoint. Thanks again for stopping by

[@marwanedits]

I can't own any of them so i have to wait until to get job to buy supra

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You will def get it my friend I know you will Supra seems really promising don't worry about the people that haven't driven one talking nonsense about it, I'm sure it drives amazing

[@marwanedits]

@@MeynMotorGroup Thanks Bro i can't wait to see more your LC 500 videos 🙌 😀

[@doughouston7840]

Great review. I should have counted the times you said "next level".

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Your engine sounds beautiful bro like a sound of pure art 😍👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

Thanks again brother your motor is a whole other from of art smooth as silk!

[@theodoreyoung8777]

Exhaust Sports Auto Thanks bro we can’t go wrong with Lexus relaxing of the mind body and repair bills lol 👊🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@MeynMotorGroup]

So true lol

[@speedtab215]

Doesn’t the RC have a v8? It sounds like a 4 banger

[@davidcoronado5512]

Right now an LC500 2019 base is worth about as much as an RC of the next year(still used). RC f is just not worth it if you want high end Lexus

[@s.z.x.01]

People who think LC is a scam would be one big idiot. Personally having one of that is way cooler than having those regular Supercars.

[@MeynMotorGroup]

You would be surprised at how many reviewers I've seen that say the LC basically feels like an RC F....that couldn't be further from the truth. The difference between these two cars is like the distance between heaven and earth

[@Chorizomicks]

Biggest difference IMO is the oil coolers in the RCf. LC500 doesn’t have it. Kinda sucks

[@MeynMotorGroup]

True but for driving to starbucks I don't think we will need any coolers lol

[@AbsolutMassager]

The more n more I see the LC500 around in my fb feed the more and more I’m considering it as long as it’s a 2021+ with dynamic handling package, get a new rear diffuser with quad tip exhaust from a good sounding aftermarket exhaust company then tint the car, put protection on, and keep it til it gets murdered by a semi truck like what happened to my 2012 ISF I had (RIP Lexi!)

[@PlayafromtheHimalayas]

I'm hearing there will be an F sport LC for 2023

[@coxfreight7156]

After driving an LC I don't think you'll find anything that drives like it, once you understand the LC, it seems you understand it, it called your name

[@alexkid408]

Both are wonderful. lexus LC 1st and RC 2nd in term of beauty. Both have indestructible NA V8❤

[@researchcapt]

Great review. Thanks

[@BMTATX]

I like RC F over LC 500 . RC F look like a man car.

[@s2krookie]

Don't get either if you want performance. And if you're going for looks, get the LC. the rcf looks just like the gsf or isf. And they depreciate in value very quickly.

[@senorbonbon]

Then what should I get for performance

[@Vendetta987]

bro what are u talking about?? RCF is such a good car in looks a decent performance for its price point.

[@a.f.s.3004]

LC is a very nice Grand Tourer….not the fastest, not the best handling, but a very elegant vehicle.