LG G3 vs LG C3 | MLA OLED vs Conventional OLED 4K 2023 TV Comparison

How big of a difference does MLA make over the traditional OLED TVs you are used to? How different is the C3 and G3 OLED TVs from LG?
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[@steadychaosproductions3376]

I think the G series needs to start coming with a stand. Kinda silly a TV would come with zero stand.

[@legionmartin]

Not including a stand is just stupid. LG is making a huge assumption that most people who can afford the G3 will be mounting the TV on the wall. This is just not true.

[@irfanpatel564]

​@Legionmartin I disagree. I had specifically purchased the LG G1 over the C1 due to the included wall stand as I was looking to wall mount it as it mounts flushed against the wall. 3rd party wall mounts generally have a larger gap and the included LG wall mount is actually indented to the back of the TV. Of course I would have preferred to have both but I'm guessing it would increase the cost of the TV by around £200 by including. So LG would rather provide it as a independent extra. Logically speaking, it is the Galllery Series, and it's made specifically for wall mounting anyway.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

Yep. Hate this. They act like the ONLY people who are going to pay the price for them are ALL going to wall mount. Even when LG does offer an optional stand, so far with the G1 and G2 they have been garbage tier. The G1 had those stupid legs, and the G2 caused the TV to slant backwards.

[@irfanpatel564]

@@Neonmirrorblack I do agree that the optional table top stand for the G1 is not a pleasant one. LG need to improve this 100%. I prefer the table top that fits centrally like the S95B. However due to the thickness of modern oleds they do appear to be more flimsy introducing wobble. I wouldn't recommend if you have small children and wall mounting would be the better choice.

[@JuanJohn013]

Then it wouldn’t be called a G series

[@dreamaster9000]

I just saw a C3 at Best Buy and couldn't BELIEVE how it popped. These "dimmer models" are still SO much brighter than OLED's used to be.

[@thatdrh]

they have them on demo mode... Also you didn't have an old model right next to the new one playing the same exact content.. I have a C9 here, next to C3 42" and the s95c. I just took the samsung back after seeing that all the font had little rainbow edges (well lot of the font) due to the sub- pixel(s) orientation. So then I mirrored the image of the C3 to the C9. The game mode on these newer models kills the TV... This clearly wasn't as aggressive on the older models.. My C9 looks better than the C3...definately not worth it for me... I am going to try the G3 in 3 days when it gets here..

[@ChadAltDelete]

​@thatdrh how is the g3 so far?

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Actually not really. C series from LG did not move up in brightness since C9 came out, in 2019... NO C series can hit 1000 nits which is the holy grail of HDR on OLED (Pretty much every HDR video is mastered for 1000 nits peak). Im NEVER again going OLED with less than 1000 nits peak brightness after having QD-OLED for 1½ years now. Had C9 and G1 before it, and it is not even close in terms of brightness but the colors on QD-OLED is what really stands out, simply insane difference. The color volume on QD-OLED is just way better, something MLA did not fix at all. More _white_ brightness alone is not what we really want, just drowns the rgb subpixels. Even G2 had this problem. As long as LG insists on WRGB config, they NEED to boost RGB brightness, or I won't buy LG OLED again.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

@@thatdrh Wow really? That's unfortunate if true and that it's not a user error kind of thing (not saying it is, but saying it could be). I have a used 77'' C9 that I got last December for an extremely good price, only to find out it had a really obnoxious defect in it where on the bottom right hand side of the screen there's a cluster of pixels that will "flash" white every sixty seconds when that area is supposed to be pure black (meaning "off") as though either those pixels are not getting enough power, or they are simply dying. Had been planning on replacing it with a G3 sometime in the near future with the store credit I'll get from the C9 since it had a five year warranty. If the picture on the C3 is actually *worse* due to the different pixel orientation, then I'm wondering what that means for the G3.

[@thatdrh]

@@Neonmirrorblack I never ended up going back for the G3 after I took both the c3 and s95c back. From my understanding the G3 will be a noticeable difference from the C9 (that I still have). At this point, I decided to wait yet another year and see what they release for 2024.

[@bobbydazzler1780]

Given the price difference I’m leaning towards the C3 as I’m only a watcher of TV, Discs and KZbin. I don’t game or even watch that much TV to up the price to the skies. The C3 can be had for a decent discount these days and the 65inch seems to be the sweet spot bang for the buck TV. I normally connect optical through a Marantz amp into a decent Hifi and that’s good enough for me.

[@vukicdamir6485]

Even c1 or c2 is for you , no big difrence on c1,c2 , c3

[@bobbydazzler1780]

@@vukicdamir6485 bought the C3. Very happy with it. So for those looking at more expensive brighter options remember that in real life you end up toning down the brightness to expert low light settings otherwise it’s too harsh in a darkened evening room and would most likely disturb your sleep looking at a very bright image around midnight.

[@Keji839]

Replaced my C2 with a G3. It’s the brightest tv I ever owned. I like my brightness to sear my pupils

[@epadrong]

ohh I was looking for someone who had C2 and upgraded to G3. Could you help me? I will buy my first oled evo tv. Do you think is better to start from G3 or start from C2 is enough? In my country there is a big difference between them of $2,000 dls. I think is a lot. it's still worth it?

[@Keji839]

@@epadrong for me , the C2 was nowhere as bright as my older Sony x90J mini LED TV. The G3 is INCREDIBLY BRIGHT. has 5 year warranty and is always sold out. It is so worth it.

[@victorhogvall2065]

I got the c3 and in a completely dark room I wouldn’t want it to be any brighter, just hurts my eyes. It is quite close to me though.

[@tronalddump404]

Recieved my 77" G3 today, coming from 77" GX. It is breathtaking!!!😍 Significantly better than the GX, both in brightness and processing. So happy!

[@starwatcher73]

that’s a heavy price tag 😮

[@Mr.Honest247]

Lucky ass. Must be nice being able to afford shit.

[@tronalddump404]

@@starwatcher73 been saving for 3 years 😀

[@fatcatattack]

@@tronalddump404 How you liking it? I'm debating between a 77 inch C3, 65 inch G3, or say screw it and go crazy with a 77 G3. Only thing is I'm not trying to wall mount it so the C3 has the edge in that department.

[@tronalddump404]

@@fatcatattack ​@fatcatattack I can only say go for the G3 with MLA tech and next level processing. It still amazes me every day. There has been some good updates too. Not a minute regret on this purchase.

[@Mr.Honest247]

They should have the option to buy the G series with a stand or without it depending on your preferences.

[@TheSlyDragon93]

no they should just include the freaking stand and not be difficult in the first place.

[@Reginald_Harrison]

It would be nice to have the option. Mounting is cool but can be a hassle for renters or people who may want to shift their living room around a bit in the future. Also, the stand that LG sells for the G Series has a tilt to it and is a bit wobbly. The lack of a solid stand option is making my TV choice much harder than it should be. I’d buy the G3 right now if it had a stand for the brightness boost and the 5 year warranty.

[@MM-Official]

on sound part, you're right, some reviews reveal that even G2 sound great than G3(i have a theory, i think may be they sacrifice some audio space to make room for more thicker heatsink i guess)

[@Joker-TMF]

2 days I was watching c3 vs g3 on KZbin. My choice was C3 until I go directly to Best Buy and see the g3 in face . Ok in real life the difference is real so I bought the G3 and was only 300$ more than c3 . This is a beast! But if I have 2k more to spend A95L x1000 . Happy with the G3

[@Daily_Internet_Insight]

Did you see the noticable difference between the c3 and g3?

[@beammeupscottsp7952]

Yeah ​@@Daily_Internet_Insight

[@Dagotur]

@@Daily_Internet_Insightcan’t you read?

[@yo_g72]

Curious to see a comparison of a G2 vs C3

[@Cochino_LA]

I work at best buy and a lot of people like the g2 because you can turn off the dimming mode. The new models are brighter but you can not turn off the dimming and get the G3 as bright as it should be, but that's how they offer the manufacturer warranty on their panel. Thy just reduce your overall capabilities.

[@darkwinduck3009]

​@@Cochino_LAisn't the dimming fixed with latest software update

[@mikebing1230]

They are basically the same TV. C3 actually a little better. C3 is fuckin amazing

[@raven89k]

I see a blurry/stuttery motion on the C3 at 5:13....this is kinda strange because I never saw this on my C1....

[@TheMerlin1984]

Still no stand with the g3. Just can’t understand their reasoning for that. Have the option of both. It would also generate more sales.

[@shawnaldqdrumpf3952]

they know that the people who buy the G3 has more money so they won't mind paying for a stand extra. Simple.

[@cavalli821]

Hi, this is a great video! I just saw this after posting a comment/asking for advice regarding the C3 vs the G3. Thanks again!

[@ericj1385]

Well my set of 👀 says the C3 looks brighter..more vivid..greater depth perception...🙆🏾💥

[@hudsonjairosantosdemedeiros]

I would like to know the RAM memory of the TV. And the TV's internal storage too. The AIDA64 APP can help inform these issues.

[@excellins]

got last year's model. I'm pleased.

[@anony88]

I need MLA on the 42" C series. Hopefully it'll come in 2024.

[@louaiempire8943]

With my discount I get the C3 77 for 2500$ and the G3 65 for 2300$ and I saw both tvs side to side at bestbuy they look 95% identical so I'm really thinking about getting the C3.

[@janduller4722]

lg g3 is so much brighter mate. the destroy the lg c3!

[@louaiempire8943]

@@janduller4722 did u see the C3 and the G3 side to side it is brighter but not to the point you imagine

[@janduller4722]

@@louaiempire8943 yes. and g3 is 3 class better. i enjoy my 77 inch lg g3. mindblowing tv!

[@louaiempire8943]

@@janduller4722 wow I can't afford g3 77 😢 happy for u though

[@AEROXEO]

The only reason you need a TV that bright is for bright hotel lobbies and whatnot. Also, KZbin compression with bright images is very inaccurate.

[@GrimReaper86107]

Sup KG. Just a suggestion, but can you do a guide video on best picture mode settings for movies, tvs shows, & gaming for LG & Samsung premium tvs? I know some people don't touch any settings in picture mode but for those like me that want to tweak picture settings but don't know what's the best setting, would appreciate you doing a picture mode guide video

[@TechWithKG]

I’ve got a few up on this channel like this but I’ll do some for these recent TVs in the future.

[@GrimReaper86107]

@@TechWithKG Cool. Looking forward to those videos

[@CJ-nm8sw]

I'm really considering getting a G3 for gaming. I wish I could try them back to back. I'm conflicted though, since I could save a chunk of change with the C3.

[@TheSlyDragon93]

same...I think to myself money I save is what I could put toward a soundbar, cus the tv sound is terrible regardless except for the sony

[@XradheyaX]

​@@TheSlyDragon93obviamente sea la TV qué sea nada supera a buen sistema 5.1 👻

[@JohnnyBitcoin]

C3 probably better bang for your buck if used for gaming. I noticed games always look great vs movies and video content. But if you want the best for everything you need the G3. Or wait a year for the G3 to drop in price

[@Cons2911]

I think c3 has good value, but g3..from what I’ve seen shows more details in darker areas (crushed black, is that the term?) vs c3. I know it’s probably not really related to gaming though

[@jamilvints]

Personally, I'd get the cheapest deal out there. 2024 will be OLED monitor year.

[@getoveryourself2212]

why’re the colors different? which one is the correct colors? I don’t want something with the wrong color coordination which one has the correct color saturation, correct helpful shading the g3 seems to over-brighten shaded areas (the batman video game was an example) if it’s supposed to be a dark area, it exaggerates the very minimal lightened areas..

[@DennisSchmitz]

The LG G3 kills it with anything that has bright colors. Like worlds apart.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah huge difference

[@starlite3597]

but he is using a bigger screen?

[@FBudo]

I have c3 size 65 .. amazing…go for c3 65

[@sportsunplugged009]

I am still using LG C9 and it's good I play ps5 on it..

[@Leo-zf7ne]

Jus got a floor model g3 open box at Best Buy. Saved a little... but now I have an oled that has wifi problems. It does not keep a steady connection.. I am taking back to best buy tommorow to have them "fix" it. But if they just offer credit towerds a new g3. Im going that route

[@AK-gc9ce]

Hey. Which one would you recommend? For first smart tv? I will hang it in my room. Gonna use it mostly at night time. G3 is 350$ more expe sive here. Worths?

[@glenn1964]

Hi, I would like to see a comparison between the Panasonic TX-MZ800 and the LG C3

[@marcopignone9386]

I'm seeing more brightness in many of the earlier scenes you show on the C3, but far higher contrast in the G3. Some of the later scenes, the higher brightness in the G3 is apparent.

[@janduller4722]

i have the lg g3 77 inch. its so great tv. watching john wick on it in 4k hdr. its mindblowing mate. on youtube it`s shit. because the camera cant capture the better shadow details and brightness from the lg g3!

[@user-3zx739]

Better to wait and take g4

[@archonblaze]

On an iphone 14 (with its OLED screen) the difference between these two tv's is very apparent. On my desktop PC with a standard TN panel... not so much. I could barely tell the difference. Keep that in mind when watching this, IRL the G3 kills it and is worth the extra money.

[@Mikreen]

For me its clearly not worth it, but yea your right it depends on the screen your watching it on.

[@LeviAllen]

Went with the C3. The G3 is oversaturated.

[@yinyang9109]

Sure, the G3 definitely brighter but the C3 is more natural to my eyes.

[@hoodaguy]

I have the a95k and the black levels are not as deep as I thought and there is some blooming. Does MLA technology do that? Thank you :-)

[@shuckylad]

I got a 65” g3 3 months ago, wish now I’d of gone for the c3/c4. In sdr content which is 90% of what I watch I find the picture very unbalanced, whites are almost blown out with darks crushing, it gives me eye strain really fast. My 3 other oleds in the house don’t do this. Oh well £2000 wasted. 😩

[@adblaz]

I don't If it's the camera at 05:04 This is exactly what you are going to lose when drive an WOLED To high peak brightness the luminosity of the colors start to fade, yes, the C3 is definitely dimmer here but look at the grass the saturation is on point. Where as the g3 looks washed out. I'm not saying just because I don't like the LG g3. I have a G2 and CX at home personally i love the CX much better compared to the G2. The colors are so intense on the CX. The white subpixel being driven hard causes this. Going forward I don't think LG will not have a choice but to go for Samsung Displays QD-OLED panels if they want to drive the panels to 2000 nits or so forth . I can't imagine how bad the WOLED will look at that high level of brightness

[@roco9504]

At 1st seeing the thumbnail I thought it was a 83” vs 77” G3 comparison since the 83” doesn’t have MLA, then I realize on the bottom it’s g3 vs c3. But it’s not just MLA anymore at that point making the difference

[@PowerfulRift]

Great video. I’m thinking the LG C3 Oled is pretty good for gaming, I’m not a fan of wall mounted tvs like the G3 Oled and the stand you can buy for it separately wobbles. I also think the G3 is a little bit too oversaturated in it’s colours.

[@nanoki441]

OLED sucks for gaming because its way too dimm, also certain content such as animes are dimmed down all the time also. Its not even good for dark movies/games because of excessive black crush, unless they fixed it this generation, which I doubt.

[@PowerfulRift]

@@nanoki441 Ok, I don’t watch anime though.

[@nanoki441]

@@PowerfulRift Its the most extreme test to see that OLED is garbage. But you can of course apply that to any kind of bright content. QLEDs from 2018 are better than any OLED in 90% of scenes.

[@PowerfulRift]

@@nanoki441 Yeah good point.

[@jaketapper8910]

@@nanoki441 Lmao my S95B is not dim in gaming. You must be wearing sunglasses.

[@Tasaras2]

Hello! Very nice review. I have a question, does inches affect brightness on c3 series. I want to buy a c3 42’ inches and i want to know if it can give the same brightness as a 55’ lg c3.

[@TechWithKG]

Not much I’ve seen 48 and 42 next to a 55 and I couldn’t tell the difference.

[@Tasaras2]

Thank you!!!@@TechWithKG

[@Neonmirrorblack]

You can already see the difference with tone mapping off. Look at the differences at 1:38 between the two signs with the woman. Huge difference. The TV's should actually look more different than similar with tone mapping OFF anyway, not ON. Tone mapping really only lets the TV push itself to the highest highlights it can produce while keeping the rest of the image "accurate". What most people actually care about is the full screen APL, not a 10% or 5% window. If both of theses TVs were actually calibrated, it's super easy to spot the differences with ton mapping off. Besides that, by many of the more respected calibrators, you don't actually want to be using dynamic tone mapping if you want the best picture without sacrificing true accuracy. Dynamic metadata like Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are good, but they don't work the same as what dynamic tone mapping from the TV, which is how many people think it works. If a movie was mastered at 1000 nits, keep DTM OFF. If it was mastered at 4K, user discretion is advised, since it can in some cases preserve highlights that would be blown out otherwise. The G3 is all about preserving color saturation at higher brightness levels, and HDR content. In most use cases, it should always look better than the C3. Whether or not it's worth the price difference + optional stand is another matter.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah when they are next to each other you will see the difference within highlights no matter what mode it is in.

[@thatdrh]

I know this is a hard thing to judge over the youtubUlous... Its clear on game mode the G3 has more detail still. Also another thing: ( I know this is a silly way to do this) but as you're playing the game... No matter where I click pause, the G3 seem to have no stutter... So does that mean the G3 is faster than your camera, or the camera is faster than the C3... Either way... I'll have one here in a couple days... I just sent back the C3 and the s95c... Great video.... MAKE MORE!!!!!

[@Gaurav18nov]

I recently compared C3 with Sony X80L (entry level direct lcd) in a show room. Something that shocked me was dimmer & cheaper (with inferior tech) sony X80L had more colour brightness (not screen brightness) and sharpness in image. C3 was much better in contrast and overall screen brightness but everything else (that was hugely noticeable like colour pop, colour brightness and sharpness was better on Sony’s entry level tv. Thats why I am struggling decide on getting LG G4. My X90L makes SDR content look like HDR even in standard picture mode. Specular highlights pop and colour depth & colour brightness is unlike I’ve ever seen on any tv. Please help me in deciding if G4 has colour luminance and depth like sony TVs.

[@DaDa-pc8ew]

Why are the Black Level better on LG C3 as LG G3

[@karlos5885]

more bright lg g3 black down

[@Cedo86]

Maybe because it shouldn't be black in the first place, with C3 every dark scene is almost black, no much details, G3 shows much more shades so you can see details in dark scenes.

[@jaimedejesus759]

Hi KG. Thanks for this comparison. Any chance you can compare the LG C3 vs the LG B3?

[@AexoeroV]

Hey KG, in a video of the 2023 TV shoutout D-Nice said that he went back from the G3 to the G2 because of some issues he found in the G3 but he didn't elaborate. Do you know what issues he was talking about? A friend of mine said that in 1080p SDR the G3's colors look washed out compared to the C3, he also mentioned some hazy look on the G3 where the C3 he said had no problems. HDR material he said that looked better color wise and of course more bright that the C3. I wanted to buy a G3 at the BF deals but im kinda worried about what he said and why would D-Nice go back and use the last years G2, worry some! Whats your opinion? Thanks!!

[@miguelcassam468]

Why nobody compare the lg g2 vs c3 ?

[@davidb-h6709]

Does anyone know if the black crush on dolby vision HDR content for the LG G3 is patched/fixed yet? I won't buy it unless this is patched. Am I picky? Yes. But for a pricepoint that high I should be imo.

[@Mr.Honest247]

So is the difference just brightness or what?? How is that worth an extra $1,700 over the C2 with its heavy discount? I never had that much issue with the brightness of these TV’s. They’re bright enough in most cases I’d say. If that’s all the difference between these newer models then that’s kind of a waste of money.

[@mickey-neo]

its not the only difference, because all is naturally better. check the color, you will see more punch too

[@SagarRT]

5:11 Play and pause the video 5-6 times to see how the gaming character is a little slow in C3 than G3 "FPS" wise.

[@Nithin_Coorg]

Nice comparison! Can u put link to these sample videos link to watch! To see on my C2 65!

[@TechWithKG]

Thanks. If you search HDR Demo like "LG HDR Demo" or "Sony HDR Demo" on KZbin there are a lot

[@bobbah8]

When you turned on DTM were you still in Filmmaker mode? I’d be interested to see how Cinema Home compares between the two with DTM on and off

[@TechWithKG]

For the examples DTM on was in cinema home because I wanted to show off the brightness capabilities for the TVs. DTM off was in filmmaker mode.

[@djejpro]

Question about the side by side of these; at around the 6min mark, if you pause the video when the camera is doing fast/quick camera pans it seams like the C3 frames are doubled/blurred vs the same frame on the G3 (I also noticed this on your s90c vs C3 video, where the s90c looks clearer during sudden quick pans). Anywhere in the video during quick pans this can be seen, it's just very clear to see what I'm talking about during that 3rd person game footage. It almost looks like the C3 has black frame insertion on or something causing a very easy to spot doubling. I would assume that the G3 and C3 panels are very similar minus the MLA. Just wondering why the C3 always looks like this? I know these 2 OLEDs in particular should be theoretically equal in the motion category...thoughts?

[@GERRaze]

Different settings

[@bigjonb6778]

Nice video I was wondering if you have or could do a video on the best picture settings on the g3. I just got my 77in g3 today. It looks awesome but would like to hear some better video settings

[@TechWithKG]

I will see what I can do

[@Mr.Honest247]

Lucky ass. You have no idea how lucky you are to have one of those. I’d kill to have that tv in my house right now.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Imo brighter colors isnt better when it hurts darker deeper colors. This is why qd oled is king.

[@TechWithKG]

G3 and C3 both suffer with colors in mind in certain areas. MLA seems to magnify not only the good but also the bad with WOLED. I will say even with that the G3 in comparison to the C3 colors definitely looked much better and more complete at higher brightness but yes it still doesn’t stack up to QD OLED.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

@@TechWithKG nice thanks man

[@maciejszambelan6520]

Great video. Guys, I can get C3 65 inch or G3 55 inch, same price. Which one would you choose? Thanks.

[@ArturKaplin]

Посмотри about tuch всегда лучше взять больше взял для 2.7 метров 65, жалею что не взял 77 c3

[@Cons2911]

Does it get hot? The g3

[@masomaf]

But how fast would each burn in? I have the C7 bought feb 2018, burn in nov 2023 (subtitle region). Daily to weekly useage.

[@vincentroy5093]

I notice that the reds in high luminance scenes are more saturated on the G3, and more orange on the C3. Blues and greens less so. KG is this fair to say?

[@naththoau]

We need to find out more from calman measurement to see how accurate white balance, colour saturation sweep and how much is the gamut coverage and volume coverage, greyscale tracking. I have feeling with MLA it will improve the colour gamut/volume coverage, so it may show up more saturation and more shades of colours than without MLA. Camera doesn't do justice much on that.

[@TechWithKG]

Yeah I noticed this too, G3 definitely is more saturated in the reds over the C3.

[@bucclao209]

Is the pop out more like 3D looks on C3 & G3? Or S95c has 3d pops too? What tv had more shiny on screen? Thx

[@bang1102]

If the room is bright and has many windows is this TV still watchable? In daylight.

[@TechWithKG]

G3 seems to have a better anti-reflective coating it should be fine because the TV gets very bright id skip the C3 in a bright room however as it doesn't get bright enough.

[@TheQxY]

Wtf is MLA technology? Would be good if you could have explained it. The images in the video look basically identical to me.

[@torevenheim9607]

B3 vs G2 same prize, what would you buy

[@johanmelis12]

Over here atm g3 and s90c prices are the same Looks like samsung is much cheaper in USA then in Europe ?

[@highdefnews]

I definitely agree about the S90C being a better buy compared to the C3. I just saw it at Costco & thought it was a QLED before I read the tag.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

By far. LG is gimping C series too much, year after year, it's more like a mid-end series. G series is awesome tho. I like colors on QD-OLED more tho, however I like both and use both WOLED and QD-OLED myself.

[@D3ZG1978]

So it looked rubbish? 😂

[@janduller4722]

@@Dr.WhetFarts samsung qd oled colors are so cartoonish. weak tizen shit software. no dolby vision. i have the lg g3 77 inch. mindblowing. c3 also great tv, but less more brightness. because no mla panel

[@Deskjet2772]

G3 is better but you hardly ever will notice the difference if not side by side

[@ottokern1001]

Great review. Im looking to upgrade from 77 inch c1. Its a dark room tv only so im just using fmm. Im looking into s90c 77 inch. However im wondering if it makes sense since high end oleds like g3 and s90c seem to be quite close to midtier oleds like c3 in more accurate modes. What are your thoughts on this?

[@janduller4722]

have the cx 65 inch. nice tv. but to dark with dolby vision movies etc. also blackcrush in dark scenes. i want go for the lg g3 77 inch or here in the netherlands the s93c. same panel as the s95c. only for the s95c you paid 800 euro more for the one connect box. same processor also i think. would love to seen a comparison between the s93c and s95c. in usa its called the s90c and use older panels, same panel as the s95b i reading at avsforums!

[@janduller4722]

@@joywonderful5804 ok. seen at samsung site that it has same processing also. same neutral processor. only not the atmos speakers in the tv i think and no connect box. it dont botter me. because i have a great setup. waiting till reviews and after firmware updates. then i buy the s93c or the lg g3. no dolby vision is a bit sad

[@DedricSilva]

Same here. I like to get an MLA OLED or QD OLED for my bright living room

[@janduller4722]

@@joywonderful5804 lg processing is better then the samsung mate. samsung oversaturated the colors also. yes its qd oled. but on the sony a95k it looks also more natural then on the samsung qd oled! better buy is the lg g3. also 5 year panel warranty

[@ottokern1001]

@@janduller4722 hi. So i also got s95b but in my living room as my main tv. If you compare c1 and s95b in dark room in terms of apl they loom very similar ie the samsung in hdr 10 is just as dark as the c1 in dolby vision. The only difference is bright highlights like the sun. In my use case which is primarily dark room viewing the difference is small. If the s90c is your daily driver its definitely better in bright room.

[@timdefrank3641]

But is it 1k difference worthy?

[@grod6998]

Can anyone answer this? what would be the recommendation for a TV that is capable of producing a good image when streaming sports via a live tv app like DirecTV or KZbin TV but also watches a good amount of netflix and games on occasions? Is the G3 the one for this or would the SC90 be the better option? I've heard the image processing isnt as good on the Samsung and that would be a deal breaker for me.

[@TechWithKG]

G4 is the best I’ve seen for sports G3, S95C and A95L are also very solid.

[@rickystafford7433]

Let’s be honest, anyone would be thrilled with either one of these sets.

[@simonkammeyer4334]

Which has lowest input lag?

[@Marco-em2in]

In my opinion Lg made the C3 too dark they should have at least brought it up on par with the S90c. This is why the C3 did not stand out this year but I guess Lg wanted its G3 to stand out allot so they neglected the C3 a little in the brightness department.

[@XxItzkenExX]

can u make a comparison the 83” inch on both G3 & C3 ? I want to know how much brighter from the G3 and the C3 without the MLA tech ! Thanks bro !

[@TechWithKG]

I don’t have space or budget for that sorry but I can tell you It’s the same panel so don’t waste your money on G3 83”

[@josephenmajuscule1360.]

Ça manque toujours de luminosité. Je suis assez déçu par LG, je voulais passer du 77CX au 77C2 car à 2500€, finalement je préfère m'orienter vers Panasonic, voir Sony.... Pour les contenus SDR 1080p, si la qualité est moyenne, l'image est affreuse sur 77 pouces. Je pense carrément revenir à du 65 pouces.....

[@chr1za43]

Hi Guys, i was considering buying the top notch g4 or g3 but after seeing all the reviews and comparisons i dont really think the price difference of nearly 1200 G3 to 1600 G4 is worth going for. especially i would mostly watch movies on streaming or panasonic 4k blue ray and cause I m pc gamer anyways. Am I right? (coming from an oldie 7 year old 55 inch lg led)

[@equilibrium-tech]

Hey, did you notice DSE (dirty screen effect) on MLA/conventional OLED??

[@ejdhdjejejebdnem]

yeah, that's the problem with this reviewers, they don't tend to keep their oled tv's for to long just to see that will be a huge problem with that auto dimming after 2 years and soon after that pixel wear and ultimately burn ins (learned the hard way) so getting recommendations for gaming based on just picture preference is absurd. samsung and C3 is a no go on the long run for gaming. Look for oleds with heatsink and Heavy resistance on ABL. so the G2, G3 or the Sony A95L will be your safer choice. G2 is the best option for gaming as it is proven that hat less image retention than the G3

[@Ben-fq1lj]

I'm so confused..... HDTVtest showed that the G3 was significantly brighter when comparing the two with filmmaker mode, but here, it seems like the C3 is barely different until dtm is turned on. What profile did you use?

[@TechWithKG]

FMM mode thats the point I was trying to make on the video, it is very content dependent especially in something like filmmaker mode. No doubt about it the G3 is significantly brighter but that wont always be evident unless you got content that pushes the brightness level or you are in a mode intended to inflate the HDR impact.

[@Ben-fq1lj]

@@TechWithKG Gotcha. Its a shame you still don't have the tvs; I'd love to see a bright snow scene to see how they compare.

[@MM-Official]

Thanks KG, G3 is awesome choice with it's 5Y warranty and heatsink as bonus, peace of mind guaranted, C3 also is a great choice for bigger size without putting a lot of money

[@kalumander]

C3 isn't a great choice, C2 is.

[@Cons2911]

Hmm..need to check if we have the same 5yr warranty here

[@MM-Official]

@@kalumander C3 support DTS and C2 doesn't

[@kalumander]

@@MM-Official C2 is 700-800$, C3 is 1400$ = C3 isn't worth it. When I say worth it, I mean price to performance wise, not ego wise or "I wanna spend more money" wise.

[@MM-Official]

@@kalumander sure, don't buy it now simply, wait for C3 to drop in price

[@Bassic778]

Thank you for a very good review!!! I'm seriously considering buying the G3 65 or the C3 65.

[@WhisCODM]

G3 better 900nits vs 1500nits

[@Bassic778]

@@WhisCODM I agree!!!

[@alphaj9]

I wish the g3 came in a 48” 😢

[@19thpar3]

So I have a bright room and am replacing a 10yr old high end plasma. I don’t game and am a movie and picture purest. I don’t like artificial enhancements, so is g3 brightness more artificially enhanced or does it look natural just brighter. I saw them in Best Buy , but it’s hard to tell as the content is pristine . Amy input would be great.

[@beastmode3776]

would even tend to the Sony A95L if you mostly watch movies etc(no gaming).

[@Ps-we3pp]

what was your recommendation when you said QD-OLED?

[@TechWithKG]

Mid range: S90C Premium: A95L

[@patrolman602]

How is the off angle viewing on the G3? Does the MLA make it worse? Also, is the pink tint better on the C3, G3, or are both the same? I've heard the pink tint is about gone on the C3 compared to the C2

[@dreamaster9000]

Pink tint is gone on the G3 because of the MLA. C3 still has it but to be honest I only see it when I'm at close to 80 degrees off axis and the screen width looks like it's 6 inches wide, LOL.

[@shanemsb2]

LG Z2 77” or G3 83”. Which to buy

[@karlos5885]

g3 83 no mla

[@opoaloas9563]

Brightness is important for my but the difference of Price C3-G3 only for that 😮

[@Jirupt]

What's the video for the comparison?

[@TechWithKG]

Which one?

[@Jirupt]

@@TechWithKG2mins in the vid

[@TechWithKG]

@@Jirupt Search youtube "LG Chess HDR Demo"

[@filipborch-solem1354]

Can MLA be used in Qd-OLED? Theoretically.

[@reviewforthetube6485]

Maybe but it's not needed qd oled has less layers already. The issue with wrgb oled is they get blocked so the holes and reflection now bounces out instead of being trapped with wrgb. Qd oled doesn't need it and won't. What I think lg did wrong is instead of allowing just the new panel structure to shine they then pushes the panels even harder which in turn has really messed up its low luminance performance. It's clear they wanted it as bright as qd oled but they clearly didn't account for the flaws it brings in play. While qd oled can hit these brighrnesses and get all of the benefits an oled is king at low luminance performance. Since it's not just being pushed passed its limits.

[@GetUrOwnHandle]

Theoretically, yes. Would it bring the same level of improvement in a QD-OLED panel? That remains to be seen.

[@mickey-neo]

@@reviewforthetube6485 qdoled have burnin, so MLA can halp to preserve the panel because naturally brighter. and less consumption always a good thing, and so can less ABL effect too (because abl is to have less consumption too)

[@PcGamingForFun]

why is c3 motion is blurry compare to g3 here

[@SidorovichJr]

Lcds are dead I assume even yhough each year they are improved and brighter?

[@WhiskeryMage61]

depends on your needs. if you have a high end one with 2500 nits, you will get an HDR and punch that no OLED can match with any sort of ambient light present. For a completely dark room, yes, LCD cannot compete with the new generation of OLED. I have an LED LCD TV for my bright living room (Sony ZH8) and a QD OLED for my back room (S95b). The Sony is overall the better TV for anything outside HDR gaming where VRR is required and interestingly mainly for menus and black horizontal bands when watching movies. For actual content, I am on the fence, and Netflix looks better on LED LCD. For stable 60fps games I would say it is a tie, but especially PS5 games seem to be optimized for the ZH8 so games like Final Fantasy 7 or Horizon are just stunning on the LED LCD even when comparing with OLED.

[@NexGenTek]

​@@WhiskeryMage61 idk the same set up here. I prefer my S95B it's pre updated so idk what firmware you're on. Games like ff7 and horizon on PS5 look insane but I go back to the oled at the end of the day contrast is key

[@NexGenTek]

@@TheAntifluencer X95L isn't doing anything with oled especially QD oled. The S95C beat the Z9K in the majority of scenes. Contrast is key and OLEDs are best at it

[@NexGenTek]

@@TheAntifluencer The C2 is a beginner oled the S95C destroyed the X95K max compared them both. The S95C has an on par if not better processing. Sorry your trying to defend led but they can't be compared they've gotten better but there's still blooming and DSE let's be real lol. The Z9K got destroyed by oled. The comparison has already been done true 8K is on an oled. Also the QN95B and QN95C and the S95C and S95B all have the same processor carried over from last year like sony lmfao! How are you this misinformed 😂. Go away and do research then return because this is silly. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[@WhiskeryMage61]

@@TheAntifluencer to give some perspective: I own a ZH8 (predecessor to the Z9K) and a S95b. The ZH8, a TV from 2020, eats the s95b for breakfast in 90 percent of content: Bright scenes, snow scenes, near black scenes, high contrast scenes without true black (S95b tends to crash a lot of the details unless you overbrighten the APL via shadow detail or gamma settings), sports, gaming (when VRR is not needed), Game mode (which is too dark on the samsung unless you switch of game hdr and hdr10+ options and darken shadow detail to broaden the colour spectrum), SDR content (S95b is a joke and as far as I know LG is even worse), upscaling (e.g. Wii or Switch games upscaled to 8k), cinema (HBO, Netflix, Disney+), smooth gradation (again Samsung is a mess versus the Sony on low setting), better natural motion blur, blackframe insertion that actually works, and accurate white colour (not slightly pink as Samsung or slightly green as LG). The s95b is better only when contrast needs to be against absolute black which does not occur often in real content (generally menus in games (Zelda load menu looks spectacular on S95b as it is fully black and white or red and black), subtitles or black horizontal band during movies), when VRR is needed, movies in playing in space (e.g. Gravity), youtube demoscreens (though even in the famous Las Vegas demo of Sony or chess demo of LG the superiority of the OLED tv is not that clear cut) and the sony processing cannot handle some vertical thin lines in certain scenes (I encountered this issue on 5 occassions in both gaming, youtube and cinema content). I agree it is all about the contrast. But contrast between a 2500 nit TV versus near black real life content versus a 1500 nit TV versus near black real life content. I don't say that there is no content where the Samsung looks better, my point is that it actually does not happen that often.

[@jamesbond007colt45]

I have a C2 and BX.the C2 is a bit brighter .But I don't have either at max brightness because white on pure black is an eye strain. G3 is actually a down grade.

[@nics8040]

I’m still trying to decide if which one to get. I realize the g3 is better but is it worth $1100 more

[@fawkkyutuu8851]

#1. Sony A95L (or X95L miniLED for 85 inches). #2. Samsung S95C (or S90C 77 inch). #3. Sony A95K. #4. LG G3 (or G2). #5. Samsung QN900C / QN95C.

[@sixmillbaby]

Considering upgrading my 77 inch G1 to an 83 inch G3 but is it $1,500 better than the 83 inch G2 (still available new on clearance) knowing it doesn’t have MLA?

[@TechWithKG]

Nah 83 inch will be pretty much the same as far as overall picture quality for all W-OLEDs so choose the cheapest one with the best features you need.

[@sixmillbaby]

@@TechWithKG Thank you sir! Boy I’m glad I decided to do some extra research before spending $5,500!

[@huicho50able]

i feel like the differences are minimal when it comes to picture quality

[@TechPanther7]

The difference is the brightness, burn in protection and anti flare of the G3. In a bright room the G3 is insanely better and you are fully covered for any panel issues for 5 years unlike the C3

[@flipmanonline]

They dont look like the same size?

[@tmr2757]

What about the sound quality

[@tusharshyoran3233]

I am confused between 55 and 65 inch g3 considering the price difference. Is 55 too small to enjoy the visuals on movies and content?

[@TechWithKG]

Depends how far you sit from it

[@tusharshyoran3233]

@@TechWithKG usually at 7ft-8ft from the screen

[@TechWithKG]

@@tusharshyoran3233 Definitely think at 7-8 ft you would be struggling to enjoy a 55" TV at its full potential you need at least 65 for that distance IMO.

[@sj460162]

KG would you say that mini led is off the table now as im really struggling to jump at a purchase...im just about to pull the trigger on the QN95C but then I hear that upscaling on a qled isnt as good as oled!! Arrrgh! Then G3 is brighter in bright scenes than S95C but worse with gaming....it just goes on.... KG im actually thinking you could save my life here when you get the QN95C because I know you appreciate led aswell. That will be my favourite video of the year...QN95C vs G3/S95C? Thanks mate

[@Somedudeonyoutube123]

OLED is really the future and the only way

[@sj460162]

@@Somedudeonyoutube123 Sony think mini led...

[@Pacooo123]

Hey guys! I’m wondering if the C3 is better than the G2!? I debating to buy either one until the 4th of July sale at Best Buy is over.

[@isiah401able]

When is the sale gonna be over

[@Pacooo123]

@@isiah401able don’t know. It’s still there. I think probably tomorrow. I’m surprised the sale is still there

[@isiah401able]

@@Pacooo123 yea not gone lie that c3 got a good sale going on yea I’m new to lg I never own one before not gone lie that g3 looking by side by side looking kinda 🔥🔥

[@sairama9248]

Why TCL came when you compare LG

[@volkantanryasukur1236]

Yan yana izlemeyecekseniz C3 yeterli 😅 Ben C3 77” aldım. Çok memnunum 😊

[@lancealex382]

Almost no point in getting a none MLA woled in 2023 until the prices come down to 2022 sale prices

[@mickey-neo]

i think in few month the prices will be lower