LG C4 vs LG G4: How Much Better is MLA?

[@EhNothing]

Thanks rtings. Appreciate your testing and data. Edit: what happened to the blooper reel at the end? Is Abby just no longer making any mistakes and getting it all in 1 take every time, or are we being punished for doing something wrong? We need those bloopers!

[@RTINGSdotcom]

There will still be bloopers to come! Sometimes we have some other things we want to point people towards is all 😄 Happy to hear you enjoy the blooper reels though!

[@phizix215]

I just picked up the 65” G4 a couple days ago for my living room. It’s incredible. I’m an avid gamer and have a PC built for my living room as well and playing Ghost of Tsushima on this thing IN 4K with HDR on is absolutely stunning. Also have watched a couple of my 4k Blu Rays and I realize I never truly experienced HDR until I got this TV as I was coming from a 5+ year old basic Samsung LCD TV (non QLED). Mind blowing. Zero regrets.

[@trewright1482]

Shame as QD OLED is better

[@danbeaman1115]

@@trewright1482shame the Samsung Matt screen destroys image quality and the Sony isn’t a good gaming TV

[@joaogoulart29]

Just wait a couple of years haha (burn in)

[@phizix215]

@@joaogoulart29 QD OLED is what tends to get burn in. LG’s WOLEDs are far less susceptible. I have multiple friends with LG OLED TVs. They’ve been using them for years without a single issue. This G4 also comes with a 5 year warranty that includes burn in protection which proves their confidence in the quality of their product.

[@mihirojha4475]

​@@joaogoulart29 WOLED has less risk of burn in I guess but yes. The anxiety is real.

[@futureaceone3971]

LG states "the green tint on Rtings C4 is within manufacturing tolerances", thus making it sound like a minor panel lottery issue. However the Sony Bravia 8 that Rtings reviewed had the identical green tint problem, which can be seen in the off angle viewing video and Chroma and Hue graphs. That both TVs from different brands have the identical problem and virtually identical measurements suggests more than a manufacturing tolerance issue. The panel for both TVs is made by LG Display (a separate entity from LG Electronics) and it appears that they have screwed up their non-MLA panels this year? Thoughts?

[@jcadvanced]

Forget the C this yr. G would have my $ if I was on the market this yr.

[@paulcox2447]

@@jcadvanced G3 OVER C4 ALL DAY

[@timetodeliverapizzaball]

My 55 c4 has no green tint yet the one on display at the store did (it still looked good wasn't too noticeable). Purchased in Australia.

[@sprungrobin9978]

Always something.. i have a c1 then it was pink tint

[@meekmeads]

LG wnats you to buy the G4. LGE and LGD, might be different companies, but they are still part of the same parent company LG Corp. in Seoul, South Korea.

[@xGaLoSx]

This is exactly the video i was looking for! Thanks!

[@N.BR500]

Love the reviews(as always!). And from what I learned watching this channels for quite some times, those Brighter OLEDs TV gonna pop up some Burn-In faster, specially w/ red colors. So my choice would be C4 for way cheaper prices (and ready to return + get another if I won the lottery of Bad Batches and get super Green Tint issue)

[@philipadastra]

Colour volume on the G4 is better too. The MLA layer increase’s the G4's ability to make colours brighter. Also it seems a lot of reviewers are talking about how the G4 seems to have more depth almost like a 3D effect in the picture.

[@JayJay-jx3zg]

I was looking for this. Trying to figure out if the Bravia 8 would be better for color vs the C4/G4, while upscaling for SDR/KZbin TV better? I'm in a dark room, so the brightness isn't that big of a factor for me.

[@freedomutilities9240]

If you're planning to buy some great TV to become monitor with PC mode, I recommended LG 42 C4, it's not only C4 but also 42 inch version of it, because its all 4K TVs, so 42 (smaller one) has more Pixel per inch (PPI) than any other unit, Don't forget to using ISF mode to getting the most accurate color possible, and when you're using it as monitor and looking at the screen from monitor distance, so hard to tell which one has MLA, but you definitely can tell which screen is sharper because of LG 42 C4 has 103,39 PPI, while 55 G4 (smallest size of G4 series) only has 80,58 PPI.

[@romainbousquet5770]

Yes i agree. What do you thing about 48 inch to play on pc in ultrawide 21:9? Better than 42?

[@peacefulutilities8972]

​@@romainbousquet5770In my opinion if you're already satisfied with 42 inch, it's enough, getting 48 inch also reduce PPI, but if you're planning for tripple A gaming as example, you can pick 21:9, but for prices to performance, LG 42 C series always win, because monitor market on 21:9 is always more expensive to buy.

[@michaelwyckoff7593]

Hi Abby. Money no object the G4 is the way to go but not everyone has deep pockets for a G4. The C series has always seemed to be the TV most people get.😊

[@BigFenny]

Shallow pockets here, I just purchased the C4 OLED yesterday. After watching the 2010 model 4k Plasma Panasonic, I'm in no way bitching on any of the features. I'm still in "WOW Mode", but don't know if I should watch College Football or get back to RDR II on the xBox 1X? Love the Review. PS, I hung it on the wall and it looks great.

[@SamW604]

Excellent comparison review. Thank you.

[@actuallypaulstanley]

Have bought the G4 65” wall-mount version from Richer Sounds UK as they included the £1,200 LG US90TY Dolby Atmos soundbar and sub in their Black Friday deal, so saved money on the sound and wall mount… Arrives Wednesday and we cannot wait!

[@TheFbiFilesRepeat]

Happy?

[@actuallypaulstanley]

@@TheFbiFilesRepeat great, vibrant colour with quality colour separation. The lie-flat wall bracket was a pain to install, there is a cardboard box they use to hold the bracket open when placing the TV onto it… The screen is much brighter than the Panasonic OLED it is replacing; much more detail in the picture quality. I would say it is more sensitive to the input signal, but is excellent with a full 4K input signal. The soundbar looks good under the TV, but the sound is not as good as the Sonos Arc and sub

[@userbosco]

Great review. Happy to say that our 2015 LG OLED is still doing great (knock wood), but good to keep up in case she decides to call it quits on us. I guess paying $2,500+ on a 65" TV today is in line for what we paid in 2015 - for quality and reliability.

[@AlexanderHuzar]

Amazing work as always! Please keep it up!

[@masomaf]

I heard cinematic/movies the processing on G4 is much better now (than other models): Fluid motions when pan shots/drone shots: less judder/stutter without getting soap opera, even without the cinematic motion option ON. With cinematic motion on, soap opera is minimized while pan shots are even more fluid. The G3 needed cinematic motion for more fluid pan shots while the G4 did not need it. Source : stop fomo and brians tech therapy compare test. But whatabout c4???

[@ShiningBOT]

Dont they have the same processor

[@masomaf]

@@ShiningBOT a11 on g4 is different c4 uses a9

[@SunRiseInTheFuture]

what video did they say this in?

[@masomaf]

@@SunRiseInTheFuture kzbin.infoFBvf-TrDds8?si=hjJaXxTbbcWhtkjC From 1h 39 min cinematic motions sections

[@benskidmore6523]

​@@ShiningBOT In previous years the C and G models used the same CPU but this year they are different.

[@mattevanst4967]

I just got a brand new 55 inch C3 in europe as my first OLED and it was half the price the C4 is going for and i'm insanely happy. Seeing everything about C4, it's just not worth it, unless you have infinite money (in which case you go for the G series anyway lol). Thanks for all your work Rtings!

[@sushi3722]

@mattevanst4967 How are you liking it so far? Is 55" sufficient for a bedroom? Because I intend to get it in 65". 😊

[@Qwickxilver]

Am getting the c4 I am batman 🗿

[@Aberusugi]

C4/G4 will come down in price over time, just like all their equivalent predecessors.

[@friedzombie4]

I did the same when the C3 came out with the C2, for $900 I got a 5yr warranty for a 55' model. happy camper.

[@acadiachair]

I have a CX. I haven’t wanted or been interested in actually buying a new TV since. I still like to keep track of what is going on in this space. I haven’t seen anything particularly interesting. The extra brightness and color levels is nice, but I don’t feel like I am missing much.

[@allmtbnzscottbrownhill2896]

I love my 77 G4, panel spec was only part of my decision making. The G4 got my pick because it is so much thinner for wall mounting.

[@markmd9]

Everybody knows G4 is better but does it worth paying more?

[@MSDOGS1976]

Depends on the individual. Not imo.

[@JefftheLandShark001]

no

[@wolfura]

No.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

That's part of what this video is for! 😄

[@stopostospec]

Just get a C3 if you're tight for cash

[@Codestud]

I bought a G4 recently and thought it was worth it for that bit of extra brightness. I could have saved a little and bought the C4 but at the end of the day this is a TV I want to live with for years.

[@Adrianek81]

@@Codestud you picked amazing tv,i do the same,i always pick the best and highest model,we buy tv for 5-8 years and want enjoy fully watching everything✌️🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

@@Adrianek81 We buy all the best and highest end models and upgrade yearly (usually). Sometimes I'll replace in two years if the next year's models is a small, incremental upgrade.

[@Adrianek81]

@@vgnvideogameninja2930 i see ok,the lastest tech and the best one😜✌️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@AncientYouth64]

until the G5 😉

[@shanew7361]

Enjoy your complimentary burn in 😂

[@yankeesfan2726]

Just ordered a 77" G4 today from LG Members for $2300 out the door. I’m pumped.

[@TruTechnoGamer]

Good video here. Keep in mind that there is more to the "Brightness Booster Max" technology on the G4 than just the MLA layer. Several pieces of software accompany that technology overall and it clearly makes the G4 brighter than the C4. The interesting thing here is what the 97" G4 will look like without MLA? On the surface, it should fall somewhere between a C4 and smaller G4 w/MLA. But it still may have some of the brightness boosting software, still has the enhanced A11 processor, still has a heatsink, and still uses a G4 panel. What will it be lacking compared to the smaller sizes in PQ? For light controlled rooms, if it's just missing a few extra nits it shouldn't be a factor.

[@roco9504]

Similar to last year with the 83” G3 since it didn’t use MLA. It still had higher brightness in highlights than the C4. I wish I was ready to buy a tv I would’ve gotten it.

[@j3tl3]

Great comparison review! I bought the 65 c4 during black Friday. I’m upgrading from a vizio led. This will be my first oled. I couldn’t justify spending $700 more for the g4. I do plan on gaming but i’d say watching media 70% and gaming 30%. Hope i’m not disappointed in the c4.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

The C4 is still an amazing TV, hope you enjoy your purchase and first OLED experience! 😄

[@kelvintse1421]

My brand new LG C4 has colour non-uniformity issue and noticeable green tint on one side when viewing at ZERO ANGLE. LG customer service told me this problem is normal with their OLED and refused to exchange or refund it. 🙁 I'm so upset by it.

[@jaboutt]

How's it doing

[@nielsb90]

Same with my C3. I won't touch LG products in the future. My previous Panasonic OLED was so much better than this junk.

[@BennyTygohome]

Excellent review comparing these. Helped me understand the differences. Thank you 👍🏻

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Happy to hear you found this helpful! Thanks for watching 😄

[@midnitepostman]

Usually game at night in a dark room. C4 has been great

[@jonathantiggs4628]

Thanks

[@needle3572]

Same. Except I have an LG C2 48’. HDR calibrated + Game Optimizer and my Series X = No complaints.📺🎮💚

[@kristiangurholt59]

What’s with the obsession over max brightness these days?There are so many aspects of picture quality that are more important, like light quality and colour accuracy.

[@superbn0va]

This 💯 who cares about nits if upscaling, pq, colors are worse..

[@ElliotMcDonell]

It's about the HDR not typical 'brightness'. Gives more depth and contrast if the screen can make more light, for HDR viewing. On standard content the brightness doesn't help.

[@bigpesoproductions1413]

It’s because that’s Oleds big weakness

[@Relic5150]

More brightness makes the entire picture looks better. Literally everything about it.

[@kristiangurholt59]

@@Relic5150 I’m guessing you’ve never seen a reference CRT or plasma display like a VT60, PF50 or 500M. These are not bright by today’s standards, but still deliver better picture quality in SDR than most, if not all, modern displays. Still, my reset, voltage tweaked, calibrated and ABL-adjusted 500M will easily get bright enough to cause discomfort in a dark room if you for some reason wanted to.

[@RatimirRS]

Nice simple and easy-to-understand review. Good job!

[@rollinsoundz771]

Thanks for the review its much appreciated 👍👍👍

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Thanks for watching! 😄

[@Bajablast_scuba_cat]

The question I really need answered is if SDR, HDR and brightness overall is the G4’s selling point, am I leaving anything on the table buying the C4 when all I do is play games and watch movies in a pitch black basement? I feel as though I’m going to need to turn the brightness down on either to make it even viewable in said environment? Maybe I’m crazy, but the price is substantially different haha

[@motoryzen]

No you're not crazy in fact reading your comment you made reasonable real-world in user intelligent points to consider. That's why I thumbs up your comment

[@Kivancli79]

Its a shame Samsung dont use their best processors on the QD oled models, otherwise the choice would had been pretty clear cut, especially when it comes to gaming. So, now we are stuck with "Should i go with LG cause of the better processing + DV & DTS, or should i go with Samsung because of color brightness and better game mode 🤔" torment ...

[@masomaf]

Lg g series 5 yr warranty is also a thing I consider.

[@mattspeer01]

But Samsung's TVs are garbage quality, regardless of how good the tech is. Terrible software and long-term reliability.

[@masomaf]

@@mattspeer01 i hear that a lot people were returning the s95b a lot on forums Samsung might be cheap after a few months.. they always do weird things with pricing on their products But I like quality and good software

[@ZyliceLiddell]

Samsung tvs have always been sluggish. I’ve had 3.

[@z00ey]

Thank you so much - very helpful 🙏

[@dogsbark5750]

Bought a 77in G3 on clearance for $2280 with the stand, such s great deal. The C4 looks great, but the G3 and G4 look amazing. IMO get a G3 if you can find one and save.

[@paulcox2447]

this.

[@crowntotheundergroud]

It’s probably the same as a G4 once u mess with the settings. G4 is a marginal increase.

[@Dasher498]

Bro where did u find this deal at

[@dogsbark5750]

@@Dasher498 best buy in the philly suburbs

[@crowntotheundergroud]

@@Dasher498 Microcenter has refurbished 77” s90c and s90cd for $1350 and $1300 respectively

[@wolfura]

The one who comes out victorious is the G3 which is cheaper and better money-wise. Shame they are running out of stock.

[@alexbradeni]

O have my eyes in the g3 77 here in the UK but is out of stock for months on the LG website

[@enzopied3015]

G3 is vastly inferior to g4 or qd oled

[@pieflies]

@@enzopied3015vastly is an overstatement. It’s incrementally better.

[@rycmrc]

My C4 doesn't have those green tint though

[@johns4920]

Thank you. Another great comparison! Really appreciate your comprehensive reviews and I love when you can add humor to the discussion! Consider a showdown video... if I had a $1000 in a bright room- what would you buy?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Thank you, we're glad you like them! We don't have a full showdown, but this is the closest we have to it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5SWd5qLnpuhpbc We'll consider a more official shootout video though!

[@AE-us5nc]

Can you please do a LG G3 VS C4 comparison video? I'm seriously debating between the two because of pricing while the G3 is still available

[@paulcox2447]

it's not close, get the g3. The g3 has mla. The C series barely changes year to year. Same panel just tweaking the software. The g4 is just a g3 with a new processor. It is very good this year, but it's not like last year was bad. Great last year even better this year. C4 processing isn't better than the g3. Take advantage of "last years model". An idea that is only viewed negatively because of corporations making us think we need a new one every year or that the tech even meaningfully changes. Last year, but 2nd best LG model for 1k cheaper than the g4.

[@carlosmartinez3020]

@@paulcox2447that’s a lie, because even RTINGS even said the G3 is worse in colour banding, when compared to the C4, also the C4 has better 4k upscaling and has better audio, all while having the same hardware, so how is that possible then ?? It’s because they improved the processor and that’s why you getting better sounds from the C4 over lasts both C3/G3, image processing on the C4 is noticeably better when compared to both last years models G/C maybe research before speaking then you won’t be embarrassed or told off for lying

[@trevhib]

@@paulcox2447 The G3 was and is great but it should be said the MLA layer has changed between G3 and G4, the game mode brightness issue from the G3 has been sorted, tinting and banding has improved on the G4, the G4 is guaranteed 5yrs of WebOS updates (in addition to the new processor). By all accounts this year's model is a good step forward.

[@vicentecabrera696]

abby you are the best I just bought the 77 C 4 hope don’t be regretting

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Congrats! Hope you enjoy the purchase! 😄

[@KarimJovian]

Wait what about VRR and does it have that flickering issue when turning on VRR in gaming

[@chibbyylol]

Wonder where MLA or QD-OLED goes from here

[@CalebPerez]

There’s no reason they couldn’t be combined, right?

[@chibbyylol]

@@CalebPerez The only reason LG uses MLA is because the woled panel itself if very inefficient since it's scatters light a lot (which is why MLA is there to 'focus' it) whereas QD-OLED is efficient where it doesn't scatter much. It'd probably just end up being a big price jump to implement for little benefit

[@verttisyrjala2897]

Maybe we will move to pholed or qdel in a year or two?

[@masomaf]

@@chibbyylolbut qd oled burns faster and have different pixel layout giving less sharpness Each technique has pros and cons

[@hastensavoir7782]

@@verttisyrjala2897what are those?

[@Netsuko]

I wish the G4 came in 42" so I can use it as monitor. I would replace my C2 in a heartbeat.

[@Riskkyy]

Do you think the c5 will be in 42 too?

[@Neckreg]

I have the C4 and I don´t see a green tint. I think you get a bad panal and I think this is a production flaw of the panal and is not present in all models.

[@nielsb90]

But they are present in some. Mine has terrible green tint like in the video and LG won't do anything about it. Personally I'm done with LG. The TV is too expensive to be a lottery..

[@snoopdagg7900]

bought a g4 65” today for 2000€ in europe. super excited. my seat is around 3meters from the tv. i dont know if the 65” is too big or not… lets see

[@AbalMarius]

Too small, 77 should be minimum to experience some immersion from this far

[@dandresaldi]

I just bought a 65` C4 because I found a very good deal & also because I wont use it in a bright room or for gaming & I think the price difference was not worth paying for my situation (a room with not too much light & not for gaming)

[@grimdawg83]

All this and im tears of happy with my upgrade from my 2015 ju7500 Samsung curved lcd lol. I got a C4 55"

[@TheStrayHALOMAN]

I use a 65 inch G3 as a gaming PC monitor in my bedroom and I seriously don't think anything is going to get that big of an edge over it for a long time picture wise. By the time I replace it we'll probably have 240hrz ultrawide curved TV's lol. Playing Doom 3 on this thing with my original xbox's native HDMI port makes the game look alot newer than it is. This is true for many older games on this G3, you can get alot more out of the color and see much better in darker games like Thief 1/2, System Shock 2 and Deus Ex.

[@AXJ23]

Still rocking my b8

[@IncredibleJohn]

You mentioned quickly about a LG M4, is it the same quality in picture etc as G4 the one difference being it’s wireless? Anyway I can’t really find that tv for sale, maybe it’s for special needs for a small group of people

[@alexbradeni]

How big is the picture quality difference 🎉between those 2 in a complete dark room, just on 4k hdr movies?

[@MichelleAlexandria-EM]

No green tint on my LG C4 83 Inch. I am leaning towards returning it because I think the picture is just lacking in color vibrancy.

[@christisdale9977]

Thank you for the video.Isn't there a difference in warranty?

[@2Greenlid]

Maybe someone else can confirm but I am pretty sure the G4 had a 5 yr warranty ! Big difference…..

[@ericadams7834]

At 83 inch, my desired size, the G4 is $1600 more on sale now. Is that worth it for a .2 rating difference? #nope

[@wayner-model5880]

Thank you! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@F14foreverF14]

G4-OLED is king 👑 Last year's G3-OLED with MLA a viable alternative if you can snag one at discounted price.

[@vgnvideogameninja2930]

Actually A95L and Bravia 9 are the kings. 👑

[@TheEdmaster87]

Maybe in peak brightness, but the prices ans availability is scarse

[@ZackSNetwork]

@@vgnvideogameninja2930For movies you are correct. For gaming and price to performance the LG G4 is the best.

[@yaroslavchernyshov3725]

At the time of me writing my comment the price of 77 g3 was 4300 and 77 c4 had a huge sale for 2k online.

[@denissssss8579]

Why didn’t u even mention Color volume and Color gamut? Isn’t that one of the biggest advantages of the G4 and MLA tech?

[@haukionkannel]

Same panel, so no difference in color volume. Samsung qoled vs kg has color volume difference because kg use while less that reduce the color volume in bright scenes

[@denissssss8579]

@@haukionkannel what about Color gamut.

[@crowntotheundergroud]

Color gamut is the same. Color gamut refers to the amount of colors they’re capable of covering. The g4 has better color volume because it’s able to achieve brighter colors.

[@denissssss8579]

@@crowntotheundergroud True so why didn’t they mention it then man.

[@crowntotheundergroud]

@@denissssss8579 I don't know dude. It's one of the most important aspects of a display. They should show their actual measurements, but they're still weak compared to qd-oled, so maybe that's why?

[@FatalityDiablo]

Do you need game optimizer on c4 in order to activate freesync in amd drivers on PC?

[@damianshaw8456]

I was going to get a C series based on the initial C3 vs G3 reviews being like "it's only a little brighter", then I saw them both in real life and the C3 was fine but the G3 blew me away. Point is, I really don't think these reviews of hardened TV reviewers capture the subjective experience of seeing these TVs in real life. Maybe you also think MLA isn't worth it, but I strongly advise you see panels in real life to get that feeling of whether or not it is worth it to you.

[@leejmoffatt]

absolutely agree with this. Talk specs and tech all you like. Go and see the tv's in person in a shop. the G4 stands out much more than any other TV I've seen to be honest.

[@18yearsoldnot]

Very true. I honestly think Abby doesn’t even care and reads the numbers only

[@djdud132]

Was slightly confused to see the c4 cheaper than the g4 when i bought the c2 new it was the opposite lol

[@MichelleAlexandria-EM]

While I'd rather have the 83 G4 over an 83 C4. The crazy price difference just for a little more brightness. i wish there was an 83 inch QD Oled that was reasonably priced.

[@brenttitus2134]

It’s not just a little bit more brightness. It’s a big difference between the two. Not even close.

[@Shampun_Dlya_Paha_Ot_Sallaxa]

OMG, at 3:24 when comparing HDR brightness, why is there a photo of a subway in Tashkent, Uzbekistan? 😂

[@AliBekirKlckaya]

C4 has almost ruler flat frequency response compared to G4. Especiallt in low volume levels where most consumers will use the TVs. Both tvs have similar low cut off frequency. Why did you give G4 higher score? 🤣 @rtings

[@paulcox2447]

the bass hump, the thing is, that bass hump in room will sound better. It's even just a raised shelf, nice and even but increased volume. The TV doesn't have low bass so an extra bit of kick at 100-300hz, midbass, is the next best thing. A bit more emphasis on the lowest notes it CAN hit. It'll subjectively sound better, no question, as someone who is very into audio and measurements to a flat response that doesn't go any lower. Small speakers in a big room.

[@AliBekirKlckaya]

@@paulcox2447 I’m a TV soun designer myself and I have countless hours on this subject. What you say is true for music but it can make the dialogue muddy, so I can partially agree with you. The point is that I want the return from rtings. Because they’re running the Tv’s room calibration beforehand, wnich is expected to correct FR. So If we’re going to evalute subjectively, then why rtings is providing in depth audio test measurmenets? Are their result objective + subjective? Then why I cant see the objective and subjective scores seperately?

[@BobRooney290]

thanks for the review. i'll stick with the C4. it's bright enough. i dont need to damage my eyesight with more brightness.

[@theflyingbrompton4787]

Agree 100%. As a diabetic, my eyesight fluctuates daily and bright monitors/TVs can make my condition worse.

[@Hunspikey75]

Too bad that you have not mentioned one of the most important aspect of the G4: it supposed to have a much larger color volume due to the MLA panel. Which means that it should be able to cover a much larger area of the rec. 2020 color space.

[@PankajJoshi-21]

Hi, is there a Comparision between C4 and G3? If there is can you please do that?

[@georgecav]

I have the 55inch G4 and imo it is underwhelming paricularly its supposed superior upscaling which was why I bought it and not the samsung given that the sony a95 has mysteriously been withdrawn from sale in Australia. The upscaling is totally underwhelming given that on a panel with such high resolution low res files really look bad without good upscaling. I can see every fault. The other issue is webos which I have never been a fan of. I try and navigate menus to improve the picture but incredibly frustratingly come to a dead end when colour adjust and sharpen adjust are greyed out even in personal picture mode. Dont have that problem with my Phillips and particularly not with my old Pana Oled which runs the discontinued firefox os which is breathtakingly intuitive and simple to use. I would take it back if I could and yes, there is that greenish hue. If anyone can tell me how to adjust that I would appreciate it. I believe I saw an adjustment somewhere but the menu is so not intuitive I haven’t come across it again.

[@gaminggarbage22]

I'd be curious how brighter G4 effects the life cycle of the Tv.

[@rameshwarkhandare5096]

G4 55in. Rs??

[@JCTiggs1]

In my region, for the 65" size the G4 is almost $800 CAD more than the C4 (with taxes). 👀

[@arielis78]

Can Rtings do a Hisense U8N vs. TCL QM8 2024?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

👀👀

[@ryanb6994]

I wonder if Rtings has any opinion on the tv shootout king of tvs that just happened where the G4 came in far behind the A95L and s95D. I'd be curious because they have the g4 and a95L tied for the best they've tested

[@masomaf]

The shootout only talked panels performance with some scenes. Not overall experience of the tv. Dolby vision was not tested Not mentioned input lags Not tested game modes Not tested system software Not compared number of inputs Not compared pass trough options. Not mentioned lg 5 yr warranty. Not compared sound quality(but advanced users will buy extra sound hardware). In general the g4 was sharper due to different pixel texture of woled vs qd. Samsung in other reviews was mentioned to have poorer motion processing. Lg out of the box in DV barely needs tweaking according to other reviews. So g4 is still not a bad tv. But it al depends on needs

[@ryanb6994]

@masomaf yeah I have the g4 and love it. Was just curious if they had an opinion cuz alot of ppl are returning the bravia 9 and so forth because of it apparently

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We looked at all three of those TVs for ourselves in our video here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/a5SWd5qLnpuhpbc

[@steveyoungquist9199]

I have a 77 inch C4 and an 83 inch G4 . I do have the G4 in a brighter room and it looks pretty good. But honestly I wonder if I should have went with a Bravia 9. LG is a joke with custom service. I have some big Apple TV issues on the G4 .

[@hoodaguy]

MLA has blooming for me and sometimes it's pretty bad. I have a G3 and whenever there is a sunlit window or a big light it takes over the screen making the areas around it significantly brighter and washed out.

[@garyausten5939]

I got my G4 a few weeks ago and have been experimenting with various settings. How much more energy does the G4 use in "normal" or "auto" mode verses if energy savings is off. I definitely notice a difference in pixel brightness between the settings.

[@Mdaftz]

Is there a G3 vs G4 comparison? I've seen some killer deals on the G3 and since I'm shopping 77in+ the price differences really makes me wonder if i should pay the premium for the G4

[@Vetteman6363]

The g3 is just as good I think.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We currently don't have a video for it, but you can use our comparison tool to look deeper into the numbers here: www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/lg-g3-oled-vs-lg-g4-oled/37849/49542?usage=1&threshold=0.10

[@wolfura]

Go with the G3.

[@Mdaftz]

@@wolfura I'm going to pick up the 77 if its too small, i'll take it back for the 84 G4. I want the MLA tech

[@vnitto]

Bringing back the baseball tee. I like it

[@Pandemonium088]

My G4 has a reddish tint around 1/4 of the bottom, a greenish tint in the middle. This tint shifts depending on how far I am from the screen or if I am standing or sitting.

[@HiKielLiHi]

can you see it when viewing content?

[@Pandemonium088]

@@HiKielLiHi visible on anime or when gaming if therr is a large portion of solid colors like snow in RDR2 or some games that have a full screen map with its own background of a single shade, like Ghost of Tsushima

[@HiKielLiHi]

@@Pandemonium088 …so is every LG G4 panel affected by this because I really wanted a G4..a Sony A95L is another good choice but I hear they’re plagued with bad vertical banding?

[@Pandemonium088]

@@HiKielLiHi I have no idea.

[@alexanderstefanov6474]

Panasonic and Philips have models z95a and 909 with an even brighter version of the g4 panel, and they both do better processing, unfortunately both TVs are very expensive

[@gregxx6977]

Lmao have u even Got g4 ,g4 is great

[@majstorringo]

If you look strictly on paper, the S90d is brighter. I personally had the opportunity to watch both TVs side by side. And I can say that the C4 is actually brighter, in hdr and sdr mode. I don't know why it is like that, maybe because of picture processing or something else.

[@Deltax5]

We have a OLED C1. The price was insane. for the computer and consoles. has HDR. they said HDR 10. idk ps5 doesn't say anything about HDR 10. I don't think it ever says. They said it is. doubly vision is there. Gsync freesync and those features help with no tear. don't know if it ever mattered. Pretty much the internet said to put the color temperature to 50 warm. For some reason we noticed that at first it to hot then it auto adjusts. RRating settings we used. We liked to put the brightness a bit higher. idk maybe the room. Why did they decide taking out 3d with the glasses out? there was plenty of movies. Like Aviator. First top end 4k TV i got. From the covid pidemic, idk people took me to do odd things. got me this old TV. This is be a keeper for a long time. No choice really. Still waiting on a good receiver. why are they all half 4k and half 8k? or is that just how it's labeled. there is a brand that makes smaller sized receivers. Would of been nice if they more HDMI's in. maybe the speaker connections in.

[@jcadvanced]

But is the G4 better than the S90D? 🤔

[@MISTERMASTER1234]

Nope, QD OLED is superior.

[@rollinsoundz771]

S90D slightly better

[@gregxx6977]

​​@@MISTERMASTER1234 lmao only with colour volume

[@Brice78000]

Of course it is

[@wobble108]

Wished the G range had a 48inch.

[@darthyautja3442]

I prefer the stand on the C4, how low does the G4 stand go down? looks a little too high, of course if you get a soundbar won't be as much of an issue.

[@t4imz]

I wonder if they made C4 bad for gaming on purpose. I saw several comparisons and C4 just looks bad in game mode

[@enekomh]

I haven't noticed any green tint on my C4. Must've been either lucky or the manufacturer for the European version uses different components

[@KAT-pi3pk]

I have an LG A2. 99% of the usage is for watching streamed content (mostly sports) which is sent at 720P, 30 and sometimes 60 FPS. Would there be a noticeable difference stepping up to a C4?

[@ChicagoBulls1984]

I always wondered this. For 60fps content I'd think the A series is more than good enough.

[@oziejah]

Why do the greens look artificial on both of the tvs, it is just a camera thing?

[@AllisonRoadWest]

Poor processing. The LG ranked WORST brand overall by a huge margin in the annual king 👑 of TV shootout in NY by value electronics.

[@kouroupettos_1772]

C4 and G4 have 300 dollars difference now with some discounts in my country (black firday started). i guess its 100% worth going that extra mile to get the g4 ?

[@franck-s7w]

dommage que vous testiez pas des panasonic ( z95 mz2000 )

[@TheBucsAnthem]

You're only going to notice that shift in Brightness in the G4 with gaming and certain HDR content......it's ashame LG nerfs the C4 in game mode/HDR for Brightness. I don't even think it's worth it to buy the C4 currently as the C3 picture is almost identical minus the green tint of the C4.......buy the G3 or C3 and save yourself some $$$$$$.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

And to, The G4 might be over bright and washing out the image which if your turning down brightness you might as well get a C series. But no one talks about that

[@TheBucsAnthem]

​@DETERMINOLOGY true, but the 99% aren't videophiles like me & you and won't notice the little differences we do.....

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

@@TheBucsAnthem I’m not going to pay 500+ for that difference either. G4 betta goto the moon or something which it doesn’t. I’m sure it’s better then c4 but it’s not that crazy of a difference

[@weskerend507]

Yes, C4 owner here, save money and get the C3. I'm happy with my C4 but wish I had picked the cheaper C3.

[@paulcox2447]

@@DETERMINOLOGY go for a g3. You still get mla, no green tint and wayy cheaper than the g4.

[@spursdynasty7378]

Anyone on here have issues with hdmi port 2 ? I’ve read lots of users pissed with this problem on the C2, 3 -4 and both G series. Why the F hasn’t fixed this problem…if I’m not mistaken that’s the arc port. I’m looking at the Sony Bravia 9 instead for my living room.

[@SickSiderzCrew]

I use G4 ❤ tq for Sharing

[@kendokaaa]

Gotta love how LG also had a phone named G4 so some search results are for the phone and not the TV. They couldn't afford a unique name for the TV :'(

[@StonedRambo01]

C4 vs G3 please. Does the G3 suffer from the same game optimizer issues?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

The LG G3 OLED does get a bit dimmer in Game Mode. It's especially noticeable with smaller highlights, which are significantly dimmer than they are out of Game Mode. Bright full-screen scenes, for their part, aren't impacted!

[@Frostbite351]

Oleds dull with a auto bright limit you can't turn off. With only a half life compared to a direct lit tv, you have to have it on stand by.

[@motoryzen]

Okay let's seriously no sarcasm no insults meant consider your comment to be fact. The problem with your comment is that you left out a specific detail in that which generation of OLED and which panels are you talking about in particular that have that problem because that can matter. Thorough Details Matter

[@joeb3167]

@ 85ish inch size I can't decide between Sony Bravia 9 vs LG G4.

[@adriankelmendi3245]

Rtings, would you help me decide between 77' LG C4 and 65' LG G4, same price, 10 feet viewing distance, no gaming, YT and Netflix, many thanks, keep up a good work

[@Allmotorzl1]

Not sure what you ended up getting, but i was in the same position. 10ft viewing distance too. 65” was not going to cut it, and C4 was not bright enough for my living room. So i payed the extra money and got the 77” g4.

[@Shini1984]

I wish g4 came in 42 inch size.

[@CarlosDiaz-is8cu]

whats the workaround for the C4 game mode for brightness? id love to try it!

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Thanks!

[@magicmulder]

The G4 in 42" would be amazing as PC monitor. Or as a 40" 21:9 5120x2160.

[@TornadoBarrage]

My room is mostly dark, Does MLA matter for me? Might get the C4 instead of the G4

[@faultless18]

The G4 picture has better highlights than C4. If you have the money go with the G4 but you’ll be happy with the C4 as well or for almost about the same price. Go with the G3 instead.

[@Risouso]

Does the brigtness matter in game mode, if i sitt inside my basement in a dark Cinema room? or shoukd i go for the G4?

[@motoryzen]

Unless you literally have to play your games in professional studio Quality Lighting in your room little league as bright as the damn son, then if your budget doesn't allow for two grand or more get the C4 and you will be plenty happy

[@rcmp09]

How does brightness compare when BFI is enabled?