The first person to finally do a video comparing these tvs in GAME MODE!! Thank you 🙏
@MM-OfficialАй бұрын
Wise first minute and very kind piece of advice, thanks for that warm reminder, i hope you doing well Bro .
@westibbsАй бұрын
The difference in sharpness is simply due to the different relative sharpness levels you’ve set, not the TVs themselves. Also, correctly calibrated system level HGiG on the G4 will allow the most highlight detail and correct tone mapping versus the other two that don’t have true HGIG. Your settings are just inaccurate and incorrect. It would be very helpful if you correctly set the TVs to their most accurate modes first, then compared. This is an apples to oranges comparison since the settings are inaccurate for each set.
@asole100Ай бұрын
I don't get why TV reviewers don't ever touch reality creation on the Sony for better sharpness. It's night, and day when adjusted, and set to manual from my own experience with the X90L which makes my base PS4 look way better (still trying to decide if to upgrade to the base PS5 or the PRO)
@FlaviusPaulАй бұрын
Bingo. Reality Creation need to put between 30-40 to feel that extra crips clear details. But users are to lazy.
@xen1-o6hАй бұрын
Awesome video. When it comes to gaming, is overall clarity and 3D pop better on the G4 or S90D?
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@xen1-o6h Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. They have a different approach to a 3d effect. It looks like the S90d has better sharpness and edge isolation but the g4 has better fine details that can bring out a more 3d effect between foreground and background but not as sharp looking. Plus the s90d color science being so vibrant helps the tv look very 3d in certain games.
@xen1-o6hАй бұрын
@ thanks for the reply. I ended up going with the G4. Try turning on super resolution to medium in game mode. Makes it a bit sharper and still retains the 3D pop. I wonder how that would compare to the S90D
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
❤❤❤ love your videos 😊
@sergeantsnugglez3228Ай бұрын
Well considering the S90d 77 can be bought for 2k or less right now is a pretty big advantage. I think the Sony looks the best, but is insanely the most expensive.
@christophercharles3426Ай бұрын
Great vid looking forward to your movie comparison and will be watching listening closely as thats all I'm interested in and use my tv for but.. looking to go 77 or 83 when I move.. currently have a panasonic 65hz2000 but am open to other brands if they can compare in the cinematic department... great vid all the best from the uk 🇬🇧 👍🏾
@beammeupscottsp7952Ай бұрын
So would you say s90d sharpness is a lot better than prior models? I know youve had the s95c, is it a better processor this year since you are saying its almost as sharp at the g4?
@garryj6311Ай бұрын
Make sure you set the G4 to HGIG tone mapping to avoid the highlights getting blown out.
@westibbsАй бұрын
The G4 correctly calibrated with HGIG is the only TV with “correct” creator intent tone mapping, including the most highlight detail. His settings are just wrong and nerfing the G4
@SKLLZTHATKILLZАй бұрын
I have the G4 and much prefer the look with dynamic tone mapping set to on. HGIG looks fairly dim (atleast in BO6)
@westibbsАй бұрын
@@SKLLZTHATKILLZ you are preferring the raised mid tones, but the trade off will be blown out highlight detail.
@SKLLZTHATKILLZАй бұрын
@westibbs surely must depend on the game. Only area i can notice detail lost in CoD is in the clouds but this is not a game where you are ever paying attention to the skybox.
@pboissieАй бұрын
@@SKLLZTHATKILLZsame here, i just got the G4, and i thought using hgig on my previous C9 made it dim, colors look less vibrant etc, almost like you put dark sunglasses 🕶️ on. Thought the high nit G4 would offset hgig dark filter look but it does not. Besides i hear only 4 or 5 games truly support hgig.
@PichoniixАй бұрын
I have the S90D and the G4. I play Street Fighter 6 the G4 gives me more in terms of Smooth picture I love how the CAs look on the G4 I can see everything like Terry's CA or Akuma's CA look outstanding
@TheGabrielSevero123Ай бұрын
i have a question to you man if you don't mind, i want to buy a TV for the PS5 Pro, and i'm thinking in the S90d and the G4, in terms of picture quality overall what's your experience? HDR, SDR, Colors etc..
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@TheGabrielSevero123 i think that the g4 can pull more details put can blowout highlight details when in dtm. Motion is smoother with the g4. Gaming menu is pretty equal but I'll give the edge to the g4 by a small margin. Colors go to the s90d hands down.
@ptshotsunАй бұрын
I appreciate the humblesness and information! This was the video I needed to help me decide. I have a sony 900H. Would you upgrade this year or wait a few more years? Thanks
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
absolutely UPGRADE ! Don’t wait . Since X900H tv Market has FLIPPED 15 yrs in 😮3-5 yrs ! For example X900H contrast - ---5700:1 Hisense H9G-10000:1 SamsungQ80T-10000:1 that year ! 2023 Sony x95L--200000:1 X93L ----- 72000:1 X90L-----42000:1 Hisense UX- 400000:1 Hisense U8K- 165000:1 TCL QM8---110000:1 2024 UX-- unknown (d Linus Tech tip video 110”) SONY Bravia 9 -388000:1 Hisense U8N--290000:1 Bravia7-----100000:1 Qm851-----161000:1 Samsung Q90D-166000:1 S90D so cheap also . Get whatever u can find that’s GLOSSY :):) all Win :)
@ptshotsunАй бұрын
Thanks for the information! What TV do you have at home?
@Tomek1OkoАй бұрын
I don’t play just rachet type games and I care a lot about colour accuracy in game mode, that’s why I will get G4 on Black Friday. Cannot wait
@MichelleAlexandria-EMАй бұрын
I just got the G4 83 on a BB Flash Sale for $4,500 and I had some credit, so got a great deal on it. I'm enjoying it. I do miss the QD Oled Colors, but my S90C looks too flat and yellow that I can't "calibrate" out and it has really aggressive ABL. I want a TV that's a happy medium between a G4 and QD Oled in terms of color.
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@MichelleAlexandria-EM. WOW congratulations. That 83inch must look amazing. I wanted to get i just got the 77inch. I wish it was the price that it is now when it was released lol.
@jeffrhonemus3650Ай бұрын
Question- why does antenna watching programs look better on older LG oled than the G4 oled?
@beammeupscottsp7952Ай бұрын
Whats the sharpness are using on the s90d?
@duffsman316Ай бұрын
Do the HDR colour highlights (eg cyberpunk neons, especially reds) look more white on the G4 compared to the other 2?
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@duffsman316 Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. Means allot. I definitely don't think they look red but they can look a little more soft or washed out.
@duffsman316Ай бұрын
@ thanks for the reply, means a lot as not many people on here are doing seriously lengthy in depth comparisons. So would you say the neons look marginally more colourful on the QD OLEDs or significantly more colourful/washed out?
@MellstoyMemShortsАй бұрын
Hello! When you do film test and low quality video on this TV?
@slsmasterАй бұрын
If Main use case are Netflix Streaming and 4K Blu Rays: G4 or A95L?
@DarkLionn83Ай бұрын
Is the G4 better with HGIG TM? I am gaming on the S95C, and before that on the G2. Awesome tvs all of them
@dante19890Ай бұрын
Ye G4 is better with HGIG in a dark room. HGIG removes any tonemapping the tv does and lets the source (ex ps5) do the tonemapping. On s95C you always have some tonemapping going on even in its HGIG mode.
@milunbosiljcicАй бұрын
Can you calibrate G4 to have more contrast than what it comes with out of the box. It just seems to me it can do with a bit more contrast.
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
Hey ! Get Bravia 9 !!! I 😮can u do B9 vs A95L-G4 in bright room ? I have seen it ! It’s MADE to be flagship for reason . In bright room, it look 2X price of A95L they r insane in visual !
@RKoen2006Ай бұрын
Bravia 9 is a very good tv but Sony A95L is a better tv it has more color palette than the Bravia 9. Bravia 9 get Brighter than A95L that's why you like it better both tv are great but the A95L is King of 2024 it beat all the tv at the shootout in New York.
@TheAntifluencerАй бұрын
Bravia 9 has bad contrast, it's just MiniLED, bruh.
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
@ it has significant BETTER contrast than A95L . The -- “ OLED/PLASMA= best contrast is HOAX myth! “ 🩷there said by our beautiful Research 🔬 scientist professor . Those r 70 year research focus on Human biology. How -- on the Receving end HUMAN sees -- contrast ! In fact contrast is Dictated by Brain 🧠 not black n white . Its d diff SHADEs - Density of Color Volune 🥮 🍁🐦🔥🌺🥬🍑🪼cast on brightness 🔆 vs Thin Color🍡🎾🌸🌷 /or Dim 🪹🥦🫑🪁🛝🎣🦕 -- BLACK -> white metho has CAP how MUCH contrast it can create! In fact the Plasma/OLED as best is MYTH . It does NOT have Infinit contrast but ACTUALL INFERIOR to high end LEDs Not demo: but when in film/ real life image background /Shadow details 🩵💠🧼👗🪣🛻🥾🪖🪲👛🌸 🩱 🦕 🥾 🥦 🎀 A95L has -- SDR 500nits leak . That’s good 👍🏻. Just Quite Dim when comparing to Hisense U9N/U8N/ Bravia9/ TCL Qm851 . Contrast is detected by -- brain 🧠 on d human side . D TV industry r laser focused on Hardware .
@FlaviusPaulАй бұрын
Bravia 9 ...blooming in complete dark space. IT WILL NEVER have the perfect micro contrast like a QD Oled can have.
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
@@TheAntifluencer wish it’s true . Human eyes see images by BRAIN . Not the eyes . D completely black is redundant . In black room , the eye sensors for black/White going FULL Tilt __20 X stronger than Color Sensors (RGB) cones. U do not see much color at all . Also Oled has Sever UN realistic proportion of BLUE. Human eyes have 2X red /Green sensors than Blue . Since what we see is Dictated by what eye (acting as camera ) to capture . Content information loss that helps Brain to SEE - (Process ) Any WOLED is no compressing to High end QD-OLED (not entry ) or High end LED. Brain processing kicks in u will not notice any blooming in real content outside of demo when Rich color cast on brightness , the brain will Process that Next to d brightness/Vibrancy as DARKER grey or Black .
@kendalljackson1162Ай бұрын
Thank you for a honest review
@FlaviusPaulАй бұрын
@ogcod The A95L have that detaild and sharp only when you activate Reality Creation and play between 30-40 interval. Otherwise you will feel to soft, play with that setting.
@anthonyalexander7964Ай бұрын
Hey ogcod, if it's not too much trouble are you able to do a comparison of the G4 in SDR gaming similar to what you did with the G3 in game mode? Thanks
@BRD2502Ай бұрын
I’m looking to get one of these 3 tv’s or the S95D, just not sure about the matte screen on the S95D, in 77”. Which would you recommend for movies/tv shows in 4k and hdr as that’s what I will do most. Which for gaming as I will do some gaming as well, but mainly movies/tv shows??
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
A95L or U9N or Bravia9. I HAVE seen all of those in person . For years I live 4 min walk from BestBuy .😊 I am soooo Absolutely shocked Bravia9 looks better than A95L next to it . When I approached I thought at first A95L was A80L !😊 that’s how stunning Bravia9 look in person !!😮
@TheAntifluencerАй бұрын
S90D really surprises in Gaming, it can definetly hang in there with the A95L for half the price. Movies is another story entirely though. QD Oled for Gaming is just a Must at this point, as I'am a heavy Gamer I've decided to avoid the pale looking G4 for that reason, Colors are just too important in Games...
@riolmoore5418Ай бұрын
Can anyone verify if the G4 actually received a brightness boost in Game Mode with the recent update??? (Version 23.20.41)
@JD-op6vnАй бұрын
That’s what I’m hearing too. Haven’t seen actual confirmation yet though.
@Yoga_Tv_buyingАй бұрын
❤❤A95L absolutely BEST ! I have seen all of them in store ! S90D too dim , G4 is bright but Thin Color 😮! Tinty
@Kakuz98Ай бұрын
Try S95D
@uusrikasАй бұрын
S90d is supper bright with service menu tweaks
@MRSTEEL15Ай бұрын
Understand the TRICKS of selling TVs in store. If I'm looking to sell a particular brand cause I have overstock and NEED TOO? I'll adjust the settings on the others so the one I'm trying to sell first, looks way more marvelous.......Don't trust so quickly at a store in person.........This is called BUSINESS
@adamdooley3044Ай бұрын
A95L isn't worth the price difference. Plus you need to see them after calibration.
@manuel5586Ай бұрын
Everyone has there brightness preference but the s90d is far from being dim. In gaming I have the brightness set to 30 so it doesn't hurt my eyes.
@myquietreviewsАй бұрын
I want to get the 77 inch or 65 inch Samsung S90D but I'm paranoid of Quality Control issues 😱😱😱🤦🏿🤷🏿
@giotorres9848Ай бұрын
can you do a settings video for the g4
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@giotorres9848. Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. I can but when I do that, there's always someone that is going to say in the comments how wrong or bad they are etc etc. And there is no wrong or right to this. These tvs are developed and made so that you can customize them to your personal liking. People seem to forget what the word customize means these days lol.
@giotorres9848Ай бұрын
@consumerreview2k screw them lol i just got the g4 and honestlt im not all that impressed coming from a q90t and c1
@franciscobeltran4913Ай бұрын
A95L best tv ever!
@X4PiperАй бұрын
The Sony has Dolby vision for gaming??
@asole100Ай бұрын
Yes it has Dolby Vision but for gaming you would need the Xbox with that feature.
@mankat6562Ай бұрын
the s90da here in greece is woled . Shame to samsung that does say that the panels here are from lg. Even the b4 is better than the s90d here
@myquietreviewsАй бұрын
Yeah I'm just gonna swallow my fears & get the S90D along with a 5 year Best Buy Geek Squad warranty but now I just can't decide if I should get the 65 inch or 77 inch 😂😂😂🤦🏿🤷🏿
@williamc4309Ай бұрын
Done loads of research I’ve heard Depending on your location I believe Samsung models the 65 inch is a QD OLED the 77 is only a WOLED like the smaller 48 55 inch sizes. ( just my opinion, I will be gladly be proved wrong if I made a wrong statement )
@myquietreviewsАй бұрын
@williamc4309 I'm in Washington State so the 55 65 & 77 inch should all be QD-OLED panels
@GinopinzonАй бұрын
Definitely quality control issues on the S90D and S95D.. S90D is recommended for Best Value for your money... A95L is definitely better quality and A lot more features including More control over thermal throttling, better Upscaling, DTS-X, Dolby Atmos etc...If you notice in the beginning of this video the S90D was already dimming down and getting darker
@montanaomerАй бұрын
Lg g4 is the beast. LG G4 is better in everything. I have both TVs at home
@Kushking_KravenАй бұрын
@@montanaomer sorry side by side I'm taking the Sony
@montanaomerАй бұрын
@Kushking_Kraven It's a matter of taste but both TVs are great
@FlaviusPaulАй бұрын
I had both TV also, Yes, sometimes G4 has a better contrast and brigthness in special in SDR, but at the end of the day , the A95L has someting which is making a more pleasent and good image, over S95d and G4, that someting extra which you can nout describe in words or in videos on YT.
@joywonderful5804Ай бұрын
The 2024 shootout makes it the No. 1 title by excluding Sony's weakness: games. It's a Sony fanboy contest. In the German Shootout, s95d got the highest score in the game.
@RKoen2006Ай бұрын
Are you talking about the shootout in New York at Vaule Electronic? They sell all brands there they are not fan boys the tv which come closest to the professional monitor win every year. Samsung came close to Sony because they used the same panel but Samsung doesn't care about accurate color that's why they lose every year but it's still a very good tv only the best gets in the contest.
@mayday6880Ай бұрын
11:20 check the stone wall in the background. Here G4 wins because of best near black level, but g4 has a smooth green tint, and that can be corrected, I think you didn't yet 😉 For me on darker content Woled wins, and bright images QD wins because of better colors
@СНСАЛЕКСАНДАРВУЧИЋАй бұрын
QD OLED not has better colors, QD OLED has enhanced and warmer colors, LG G4 has realistic colors
@mayday68806 күн бұрын
OK, then I'll put it another way: QD OLED, for technical reasons, produces richer colors at high brightness levels than White-OLED. Whether that's good or bad, oversaturated or not, is in the eye of the beholder.
@mayday68806 күн бұрын
LG G4 has more realistivc colors because the TV is better factory 6500k color calibrated
@markstorts8303Ай бұрын
I wanna get one my issue is with the smart tvs is there a camera in it. Cause i want my privacy. Heard samsung got busted years ago for infregment on peoples privacy
@sandrocarannante4996Ай бұрын
hi, why did you choose the Samsung s90d and not the Samsung s95d? . I don't know which one to get, I'm worried that the s95d has the same black screen problems as the s95c, what would you recommend?
@crowntotheundergroudАй бұрын
u referring to raised blacks in a bright room? The s95d probably has that too. I don't see why it wouldn't. The quantum dots get excited by ambient light. Pretty major flaw, but it still performs better than woled where it matters, in a dark room. 2-3 times more color volume for everything other than white.
@sandrocarannante4996Ай бұрын
no, I was referring to the fact that when I played with console or PC I had black screens lasting about 2 or 3 seconds every 20-30 minutes due to the one connect box
@crowntotheundergroudАй бұрын
@@sandrocarannante4996 no kidding? that's a bummer. I've heard lots of not so great things about the one connect box. Honestly, if I was going to get a qd-oled, I would go with the s90d, or s90c and modify the service menu to increase brightness. It's obviously more risky to do so, but you'll get similar pq for way cheaper. I don't know if you have a Microcenter around you, but mine sells refurbished TVs. I got my 77" s90cd from them for $1400. I saw a 65" s90c for $750, and right now they have several 65" s95c for $1000. They have the 77" s90c for $1350 and the 77" s90cd for $1300. I've gotten 4 of Microcenter's refurbished oleds and they were all practically like-new. I had to peel off the plastic screen protector off 3 of them and the 1 that didn't have it was still completely scratch free. No complaints whatsoever
@dillon599Ай бұрын
Everyone saying the s90d is better than the s95d for gaming I have the s90d and is amazing
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@dillon599 Hey thank you for the comment and checking out the video. I don't have personal experience with the s95d. But I do woth the S90D. My understanding is that the S95D is the same as the S90D when gaming but brighter and even more vibrant as it can get to an overall brightness level that is higher compared to the S90D.
@dillon599Ай бұрын
@@consumerreview2kit doesn’t look as good tho cuz of the matte finish that’s what I heard but yea the s90d is a really good tv for the price
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@dillon599 I only saw it at best buy on display and I noticed the matte finish right away but the picture on it still looked really good. How it looks in a home could be very different
@dillon599Ай бұрын
@@consumerreview2kyea it’s A pretty good but for the money, the S 90 D is probably the best TV to get 100 percent
@dillon599Ай бұрын
@@consumerreview2kI’m trying to figure out the settings for the S 90d I have quantumtv settings on now, but the skin tone looks sunburnt but when I switch my color tone from native to auto, it looks better, but it loses a bunch of color
@GinopinzonАй бұрын
Sony needs More brightness, larger screen sizes, More 2.1 Inputs and the LG G4 processor
@BeatelementhePiHАй бұрын
What you are actuslly saying is that LG needs QD OLED 😅
@GinopinzonАй бұрын
@@BeatelementhePiH....Yes... 😂
@Kivancli79Ай бұрын
I guess we'll know more come CES2025 when Sony (hopefuly) shows us the A95M ... it should come with 4x hdmi 2.1 this time, 144hz and an updated Game Mode.
@BeatelementhePiHАй бұрын
@Kivancli79 Yeah, this is why I got the G4 this year. The Sony A95M will break all price records and I have to pay off my house 🏠😃
@GinopinzonАй бұрын
I hear Samsung is supposed to release 83" QD-Oled 2025... That would be awesome...
@MISTERMASTER1234Ай бұрын
A95L👍👍
@saiyan_jt1339Ай бұрын
Anyone have proble.s eith black crush on s90d? Im thinking of returning it for g4. Never had a problem with black crush on lg. The colors are so nice though.
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@@saiyan_jt1339 raising up shadow can help a little
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@saiyan_jt1339 they day that after a couple hundred hours of usage the black crush will normalize. You can always go to settings and change them too.
@saiyan_jt1339Ай бұрын
@consumerreview2k thanks for the reply. I've only owned lg oleds, but the game modes have been so dim and dull, so I got the s90d. They never had problems with black crush.
@consumerreview2kАй бұрын
@saiyan_jt1339 the nice thing about the lg oleds is you have a very high level of black level controls on game mode. The g5 in game is brighter then the S90D. But I believe when the g4 is comapred to the S95D, particularly in game mode, the G4 and the S95D can look similar in overall brightness but the S95D has the advantage with color brightness just naturally due to it being a qd oled as they produce a more pure color vibrance and have a wider color gamut compared to the LG G4. This is the main reason why people love the qd oleds. So if you want to just mess around with the shadow detail settings a little and see what you think you may find it would help with black crush.
@saiyan_jt1339Ай бұрын
@consumerreview2k yeah I'll mess with the shadow details a bit. But if I see no improvement I'm gonna swap it for the g4. I like lg ui more than samsung anyway. I do love the colors on s90d though. Thanks for all your input.
@dante19890Ай бұрын
Switch off the DTM on G4 to HGIG.
@riolmoore5418Ай бұрын
What are your setting? Because mine seems pretty dim with Dynamic tone mapping on HGIG.
@dante19890Ай бұрын
@@riolmoore5418 Ehh, you can only use either HGIG or DTM not both at the same time.
@bridewАй бұрын
@@riolmoore5418it's normal to be dim in hgig, I always use dtm never hgig
@dante19890Ай бұрын
@@bridew in dark room you should always use HGIG for a better more accurate HDR picture. DTM will fuck up the EOTF curve.
@bridewАй бұрын
@@dante19890 in my opinion still looks better eventhough it doesn't respect the curve. I guess oleds are still not bright enough. I play with brightness settings ingame to lower a little Gamma to counter balance dtm overexposed highlights but overall brightness is way better.
@TheAntifluencerАй бұрын
The S90D is especially better in SD Gaming like Nintendo Switch, where the A95L just looks too dim...
@E1.laa.Ай бұрын
LG G4 WINER 👍👍
@bigcdubАй бұрын
Except it isn’t. He prefers the S90D for gaming overall…
@TheAntifluencerАй бұрын
@@bigcdub I may as well get the S95E next year and ditch A95L/A95M... honestly the SD Gaming Brightness of Sony's Oleds is shockingly low, as I'am planning to get a Nintendo Switch 2 next year 1080p Gaming will be on the Menu for me.
@TheAntifluencerАй бұрын
Bravia 10 will look excellent in SD Gaming tho
@bigcdubАй бұрын
@ Yeah, I actually do most gaming on my S95C. I just hope the Switch 2 can do 4K/60 through HDMI…
@SPG8989Ай бұрын
@@bigcdub lol are you dumb?
@reljazАй бұрын
Be careful with conclusions - that S90D can be easily with WOLED panel. Maybe post model number (e.g. QE77S90DAEXXH) so we can have more insight what panel have you got
@FlaviusPaulАй бұрын
He is SUA, they have QD panel at that size
@michaelwyckoff7593Ай бұрын
Yo bro.😊😮
@AccondaАй бұрын
When things get too bright in real life, you lose detail, just the way it works. Nothing wrong with the LG, if you stare a a super bright torch you ain’t seeing any details other than glare lol
@WilsonWilson-m4dАй бұрын
Beautiful review
@muhammadismail-tj8cmАй бұрын
LG G4
@GalvatronTypeRАй бұрын
During the Value Electronics 2024 shootout, the G4 got trounced by the S95D and A95L. The LG did not win one single picture quality category and finished a distant third behind the Samsung and Sony (while the Samsung finishing only one point behind the Sony despite the wide price delta). The only conclusion is until micro LED hits mainstream pricing, QD OLED is the future and WOLED is obsolete. MLA ain’t gonna cut it, LG really needs new tech to compete against quantum dot OLED.
@dante19890Ай бұрын
The metric for winning that shootout is to best resemble to reference monitor. ITs not what tv can get the brightest.
@sammydamanАй бұрын
Stop right there!!!!!! The flower or whatever it is in the background on the G4 is orange when on the 2 other TVs it is clearly RED. So the G4 is terrible in color accuracy. FACT. Time 1:38