How At The Drive-in Changed Post-Hardcore

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INFO: From 1994 to 2001 a post-hardcore band from El Paso, Texas grinded their way from venue to venue to escape the boredom of their hometown. After going through a series of line-up changes, issues dealing with record labels, and an insanely hectic touring schedule they eventually achieved rock stardom.because they were the band that bands would talk about. The odd thing is that it all happened so suddenly. With the release of their third album Relationship of Command they re-invented the post-hardcore genre.

[@LieLikesMusic]

What band/artist should be next?

[@frederikjohannsen9470]

time for some chris cornell! :D

[@flightnesssnowbirb8318]

How about Pavement? I'd be cool with that

[@thegloriouspyrocheems2277]

M A N I C S

[@nemodollaz4120]

Denzel Curry

[@TyNakamura]

Sublime !

[@zigotina]

I MUST HAVE READ A THOUSAND FACES

[@saviourself676]

and I’m surrounded by the cunts

[@Jennamarbles121]

I MUST HAVE ROBBED THEM OF THEIR CAUSE

[@Ocidad]

dude everytime i hear/read at the drive in... that line instantly playing in my head 😅

[@wowimhigh]

@@Jennamarbles121 SICKENED THIRST, SICKENED THIRST, KEEPS IT TOGETHER!

[@MVenk]

@@wowimhigh SOFT WHITE GLOVE IN THE CRANIUM A BULLSEYE MADE SEDATED

[@soumyasarkar4459]

The mainstream success of post-hardcore, in my opinion, began with the formation and success of Fugazi. They stood on the platform Fugazi built and went further with it.

[@LieLikesMusic]

That's true. Fugazi were able to tour worldwide. From what i've heard they had one of the most dedicated fan-bases ever.

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

Hell yeah fugazi is one of my favorite bands ever as well as ATDI and there are a lot of parallels with these 2 bands both musically and otherwise.

[@mikkos9982]

Yes and also Refused was before At the Drive In

[@deadsailorian]

@@mikkos9982 a dream show would be Thursday, glassjaw, ATDI, refused and fugazi. I got to see refused when they got back together a few years ago and it was amazing. After all these years, they still had it.

[@nickpharvey]

I agree - any discussion of post-hardcore needs to include Fugazi

[@michaelgraham9774]

Relationship of Command is a life changing album.

[@brandocalrissian3294]

It was one of 3 that changed mine.

[@michaelgraham9774]

@@brandocalrissian3294 What's the other two?

[@axelhorb1223]

@@michaelgraham9774 PIXIES TROMPE LE MONDE

[@deucerichards502]

@@michaelgraham9774 "The Devil and God are Raging Inside Me" and "You'll Be Fine"

[@Pr0x1mo]

@@michaelgraham9774 A pinback album and Mars Volta's first album

[@nausicaa2213]

Cedric is my tia’s son from my grandmas side he’s my cousin I learned when my grandma showed me pictures I’ve never met him personally but I’m proud that my family here in El Paso made it through creativity and music 💪🏼

[@sheepishlysly]

What’s a tia

[@nausicaa2213]

Alyx Oberfeld a aunt

[@Smokechaser92]

Have you met him yet?

[@critiquemytechnique1135]

I literally moved from cali to el paso and urged my dad to have us enrolled in coranado hs because someone in the youtube comment section said omar and Cedric went to that school. I still dont know, but still love them

[@killemall69]

Eww

[@whoiseeg]

I am from El Paso and can confirm that it is boring af

[@doorsheets2637]

Me too, man. Me too 😧

[@gemineye76]

@@slackercake Lived in El Paso for 10 years, personally hung out with Radio La Chusma, I don't recall any of their shit ever resembling Post Hardcore whatsoever. Just saying, awesome band regardless. Are they doing hard shit these days? Or were you just mentioning other El Paso acts, not so much as relevant to the ...Post Hardcore... in the title?

[@UDstudios42]

El Paso, much like every other city, has a punk and hardcore scene. It's definitely not common knowledge, but apartment 512 and neon rose host the most thrash and death metal along with punk and hardcore. If you think your scene is dying, then be apart of it

[@pjtello4640]

I am from the rgv....fuck the rgv lol

[@daniels1293]

Id bet any Midwest small town has you beat, we can't even skateboard without almost getting tazed by a cop or some shit

[@LoganAves]

I loved at the drive in in high school and as a black girl with an afro id be lying if i dint acknowledge seeing afros in this genre made me really happy. It made me feel like mine was fucking cooooool and could be rock too

[@emanuilspasov3678]

You were always cool

[@-solidsnake-]

I’m white af and I wanted a Latin style Afro cuz I thought these dudes looked so damn cool 😂

[@blackspring3207]

Love this

[@ilovecody7514]

Anything Omar and Cedric related I click immediately.

[@LieLikesMusic]

I'd do the same!

[@AerialPriestess]

SAAAAAAAAME!

[@feralharmony5927]

Saaame

[@maxinallcool]

every time 🙋‍♂️🙋‍♂️😂

[@alexhennigh5242]

Wanna maybe shed a tear? Check out "Our Last Dance" by Nobody featuring Cedric. I watched that video for the first time at the peak of an intense acid trip and it fucking broke me entirely. In a good way though. Twas a much needed release.

[@tobiasadams1504]

Bad Brains 🤘

[@LieLikesMusic]

Hell yeah! Might be a video topic for the future

[@austindorf83]

I second this

[@alexhennigh5242]

Like 1000%

[@am5790]

agree

[@Lunatic4Bizcas]

I'm pretty sure that Bad Brains and Black Flag were from DC and not part of the LA Hardcore/Punk Rock scene.

[@jackbrown4697]

Such an amazing band, Relationship of Command is easily one of the best albums of the 2000s

[@brandocalrissian3294]

That, art of drowning by AFI and Jane doe by converge.

[@jackbrown4697]

@brandocalrissian3294 Yeah Jane Doe is heavy af 🤘

[@yaboyreege7158]

@@brandocalrissian3294propagandhi-todays empires tomorrow ashes is another fantastic album to add to the list

[@jameshowes9716]

I dug this video a lot, I thought the history of the band was really well realised, but I’d love to have seen a bit more about the influence they actually had on bands after Relationship. Felt as though there were 3 or 4 minutes missing showing what their legacy has done for the movement since.

[@levnix1835]

When I was in High School in El Paso, it was all about, "how do you know At The Drive-In?" Every single one of their tracks was amazing to me.

[@rockk9753]

Me too, I was at Andres highschool

[@victormeursault]

Loved the video, just one thing, Nevermind was released on 91 not 94 (4:24)

[@LieLikesMusic]

Yupp, sorry about that! I have no idea how i got that wrong.

[@Tictac-s2e]

Wow, that's despicable! I'm sorry I even checked this channel out. I'm guessing he's under the age of 30, if he made such a heinous error!

[@goodman8601]

@@Tictac-s2e WHOA!!! calm down there fisty pants. How about you go put together a video regarding one of the greatest bands of our time,. Write, edit and piece the thing together than come back let us know about heinous errors. You're those type of people that complain about the cheese not fully melted on your 99 cent burger aren't cha!!

[@nrvs99]

Calm down, son. Damn. You'll do your feelings an injure.

[@Francis3acon]

@@goodman8601 how 2 put a troll in his place.

[@jimjilliker2890]

I saw them a few years ago. It was awesome to finally get to see them. A dream. As good as the show was; sorry they just are not ATDI without Jim. It can’t be done. He is a necessary ingredient to the band. Irreplaceable.

[@nicoraba]

In 2002 i was going to a SOAD gig, and the guy who was driven the car put on stereo Relationship of Command the whole time of the trip. The next day i bought the cd. Amazing work.

[@LieLikesMusic]

It doesn't take more than that to become a fan really. They were such an incredible band.

[@rafiansyaharya5817]

Please do Ian mckaye from minor threat and fugazi

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

^

[@iwillnevergetone5]

don't forget Embrace and Egghunt

[@BrainstormForTuesday]

Please do i just found Fugazi 3 months ago and im so in love wtf

[@NP-lz2bx]

@@BrainstormForTuesday make sure to watch some live performances, they'll make you love them even more!

[@vanyagorkov8438]

@@BrainstormForTuesday Check out the trocadero shows in philedephia those are great

[@jacobr5627]

Nevermind by Nirvana was released in 1991 not 1994.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Wow.... Fuck me.

[@Tictac-s2e]

@@LieLikesMusic yeah, seriously. F*** you

[@DrasticTimesInc]

I love this thread

[@shaft9000]

@@LieLikesMusic yeah...you might want to back off of topics that you weren't around to experience first-hand when they happened. Or disclose from the get-go that you're not in any way being definitive.

[@chirongodemperorof4127]

Yes but In Utero was released Sep 1993 and Kurt died in Apr 1994. I think thats where the confusion lies.

[@fuckyougeorgebush]

Cedric Bixler-Zavala changed the way I view words, not just lyrics.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Yes he certainly has a strange way of using them in his songs. It just shows that music can be incredibly good despite of being gibberish haha.

[@ExMeroMotu9]

Aesop Rock was the one who totally changed my perception on words as a whole. Pure genius. Please check him out.

[@dpclerks09]

Folding Time and Space

[@Smouse168]

This is so accurate

[@EekZombies]

Ima simple girl.. I see At the Drive In, I click.

[@LieLikesMusic]

I like that ;) Thanks

[@jeremyeutis7245]

not to be THAT guy.... the misfits were/are from new jersey.

[@LieLikesMusic]

That's okay. My bad for not getting the facts right.

[@KR0NIC]

Can you do a video on Frank Zappa

[@LieLikesMusic]

Sure can. Can't promise anything for the close future though

[@vanyagorkov8438]

fugazi

[@sodgape]

Fugazi are shit though.

[@ptcrusa]

Fugazi are awesome. I'm more impressed that they mentioned The Hated though, that is a really influential but almost unheard of band

[@skramzboi]

@@sodgape shit taste. Fugazi are gods

[@adeptdamage3669]

Do the Blood Brothers.

[@DrasticTimesInc]

+1

[@snowrider4495]

Who the fook is that?

[@lessthanpinochet]

Yes please.

[@alexhennigh5242]

@@snowrider4495 I do hope you ended up looking them up. You're doing yourself a disservice if you havent.

[@CathaterW]

I can really see the genuine effort, hard work, and research that went into making this video and I really just want to say the viewers appreciate it! This is outstanding and insightful content, the fact that you made a further in-depth pdf and a playlist of the band is going above and beyond. Keep up this great work, it's so interest. Additionally, I'd love to see you talk more about the 80's punk scene, I'm new viewer so I may have missed previous videos but I'll be sure to look into it

[@LieLikesMusic]

Thanks for seeing and appreciating the hard work i put into this. This band has given me so much over the past 6 years so hopefully this can give them something back. In terms of your request, i'm not a huge fan of 80s punk music. But i'd love to get more familiar with it of course. So we'll see what happens. Cheers from Norway.

[@SaintKines]

Ross Robinson is a Ghostbuster. Hes captured the ghost so many times with so many bands.

[@juancamilo1300]

Hey man can you please do a king crimson episode? also have you listened to a band called the blue stones?

[@LieLikesMusic]

Never heard of Blue Stones before. What type of music do they play? And yes i've been meaning to do King Crimson for a while now. But i'll have to buy physical copies of their music first.

[@danopticon]

Lie Likes Music - Their entire catalog is available to buy as AACs on the iTunes Store, just not to stream via subscription to Apple Music. (Although curiously several live King Crimson albums are up on Apple Music.) Love your series, KC would be a great addition!

[@Forest_Witch.]

sunny day real estate and the impact they had on EMO with their debut record DIARY would be a really interesting video

[@LieLikesMusic]

It would! Always been interested in that band, but never taken the chance to really read up or listen. Think i got interested when i found put that the rhythm section of that band went on to play with Foo Fighters. Love em

[@shanehunsicker103]

Definitely. Great idea. For me the biggest emo album was clarity by jimmy eat world. I know sunny day gets the accolades for being first, and ill put drive like jehu as a band i saw that changed music, but nothing compared to clarity. Thats when i became emo

[@Forest_Witch.]

shane hunsicker clarity is an amazing album as well imo the bands that really innovated the emo sound were BRAID and The Promise Ring after I heard those two I was forever hooked

[@shanehunsicker103]

@@Forest_Witch. totally agree. Promise ring really got me started, i should give them more credit. My brothers really loved them. Texas is the reason can be mentioned too. I remember hearing them thinking this was something new. Braid is so fantastic, i hate to say this but i was dismissive of them back in the day and never gave them a real listen until about 10 years ago. My bro also loved braid, shoulda listened to him haha. Mineral is legit too. An album that also had a huge influence on me was samiam clumsy. My music world changed. Growing up in the 90s was great.

[@Forest_Witch.]

shane hunsicker We can’t forget Christie Front Drive they took the sunny day real estate sounds and just completely made it their own that’s another band that definitely inspired a lot of bands as far as instrumentally goes. I’d have to say that Tell all your friends by Taking back Sunday was another big album for me same goes with this small band called karate who came out with a self titled back in the 90s and I can’t leave out The Get up Kids something to write home about. I’m only 20 so I’ve had to go back and do my research but it sounds like growing up in the 90s and finding all these bands at the time they came out is just something else! Either way I’m just glad I know of them haha

[@HockeyPwnsBaseball]

ATDI was my favorite band on the planet when I was a teenager. I would say ATDI is the reason why I started exploring music beyond what MTV/VH1 was playing.

[@LieLikesMusic]

How cool. I was barely a toddler when they were big. I was 6 years old in november of 2000 hehe. So i basically grew up with streaming and youtube as a teenager. ATDI and TMV are still bands that have left a huge mark on me though.

[@marcusmoya6716]

Please do Siouxsie and The Banshees

[@ThePhantom4516]

that would be cool, they're actually more interesting than a lot of people give them credit for

[@1anonymousb]

Excellent suggestion!

[@marcusmoya6716]

gum ball Agreed!!

[@andreidavidmatiut5559]

Fuck yeah!

[@sheepnoisebah]

why is the mars volta in the thumbnail?

[@ascannerdarkly8076]

Omar Rodriguez Lopez and Cedric Bixler-Zavala created the mars volta

[@LieLikesMusic]

@@ascannerdarkly8076 Did you know they had a band before The Mars Volta?

[@ascannerdarkly8076]

@@LieLikesMusic no did not know

[@ascannerdarkly8076]

@@LieLikesMusic was it de facto the dub band

[@sheepnoisebah]

the picture is from the mars volta era isn't it?

[@philyates7670]

Relationship of Command remains solidly in my top ten albums of all time. I've been lucky enough to see ATDI live twice since they reformed and they didn't disappoint, which was great as I had a ticket for the Relationship of Command tour but they imploded and split up before I got to see them.

[@timeslikethese52]

What happened to the Mars Volta series?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

[@grimmgrimes3565]

Hi the pdf isnt available anymore. I need it peas.

[@jacobfranzgrote]

In/Casino/Out doesn't get enough credit honestly

[@BigRedMu1e]

Do a My Chemical Romance video, but without mentioning the word "emo"

[@elderly_gentleman9489]

Even though they're not emo, the word "emo" definitely had an influence on how they were perceived by the masses. I'm afraid that they are kinda inseparable from the word at the moment...

[@LieLikesMusic]

Any specific MCR album or song i should check out first?

[@elderly_gentleman9489]

Of course their most critically acclaimed album would be Welcome to the Black Parade- but any music from anywhere that you hear after that would just pale in comparison. Three Cheers For Sweet Revenge is another well- polished album that has a defined, interesting concept. I personally think all their songs sound amazing, but I am- of course- biased:)

[@BigRedMu1e]

​@@LieLikesMusic Black Parade is their magnum opus. Three Cheers is what made them famous. The albums that came before (I gave you my bullets) and after (Danger Days) I think are still great.... I'd start on Black Parade. Theres a lot of Pink Floyd influence on there (Mama//The Trial, Black Parade//Happiest Days of their lives). AND WE ARE ALL STILL WAITING FOR A REUNION TOUR.

[@burning666corpses]

BigRedMu1e we’re gonna be waiting for a long fucking time for that reunion lmao. and i thought the same thing when i heard the wall for the first time! i went back and listened to the black parade and put two and two together. it was definitely influenced by the wall.

[@TheseBitchesWantNikes]

I’d love to see a video for Glassjaw and Thursday.

[@luispereztasso]

HOLY SHIT. MAN IF YOU MAKE A COMPILATION OF PHYSICAL FORM OF THAT PDF OF ALL THE BANDS YO'VE BEEN TALKING, I'M TOTALLY BUYING IT!

[@Ivan-mr1fq]

Apart from all the factors that you have listed as contributing to success of the band, you forgot to mention the most important: immense musical talent and creativity of the band members, and particularly Omar and Cedric. Their later band Mars Volta hugely impacted all Rock, Progressive and Metal genres in 2000-s.

[@JustinVachon]

Jim Ward too and Sparta along with his other projects. He's a true musician. Just saw Jim and Sparta last month and they still slay your face off.

[@jmathews4765]

If you can find the ATD-I playing at Jools Holland, their performance of One Armed Scissor is what I think defines them entirely

[@burning666corpses]

i’m from el paso, and when i saw this i started freaking out. we fucking did it boys, they finally noticed the band that made it out of this motown dump.

[@MightyGumpa]

Yeah El Paso is pretty bad

[@burning666corpses]

Moses Guevara you’re telling me, i’ve been living here for the past 19 years. i’ve come to hate it, and the music scene is fucking horrible. everyone is just copying each other’s sound, no one wants to be original.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Hmm sure sounds like a crappy place to live. Too bad it's still like that 2 decades after ATDI said the same.

[@burning666corpses]

Lie Likes Music okay first off i can’t believe you actually replied to me holy shit, and yeah i’m in a band with my friends right now and we all think/feel the same way about the scene here. everyone is more worried about how popular they want to be or how good they wanna look, no one really cares about the music and everyone in the scene could be labeled a narcissists, i haven’t met one band that actually has a humble intention. maybe a member or two here and there, but overall everyone is just focused on their popularity, reputation, or image. there’s no genuine feeling behind their music. they same chords strummed, same lyrical plot, same keys, same bass lines, it all sounds the same. there is little to no originality in this town. like i said, everyone just copies everyone, it’s a depressing sight.

[@javierperea8954]

Please leave. Thanks have a nice day

[@FabrizioPedrotti]

Man, I couldn't download the PDF and I need it for a research. Can you please re-upload it? Thank you kindly, great channel

[@nosaedebor8332]

Good luck finding a basement in Texas.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Why aren't there basements in Texas?

[@CompaRipperALV_CDB]

@@LieLikesMusic cuz it's hot

[@leam89]

@@LieLikesMusic no basements in florida either

[@strikewithchaosproductions2806]

OMG do the Blood Brothers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@archy3737]

Strike With Chaos Productions Yes!!

[@DrasticTimesInc]

@@archy3737 They really don't get the praise they deserve, oh the pictures they paint in your head of human depravity..

[@Savisoundman1]

Red light sting after blood brothers

[@bodylan11]

I love your BLOOD BROS Shoutout

[@DrasticTimesInc]

Was thinking the same, I got too stoked for that

[@bodylan11]

Im a much bigger fan of theirs than i am ATDI so my attention peaked right there. Haha

[@youngsuit]

can you update the pdf link?

[@haigaiz19]

This is dope! I did a presentation on at the drive-in for my final senior project like 10 years ago. Time flies man.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Thanks :) How cool. I never got the opportunity to talk about bands during presentations. You were lucky!

[@TheSSS-eh3ko]

Seriously, i understand that cedric and omar are extremely important for the band, but dont mention jim ward any time, giving all the creative credits to omar and cedric, even if jim is the guy that created the band and instrumentally speaking much more important for the creative proccess than omar (making him quite literally one of the main reasons why at the drive in changed post hardcore along with cedric vocals, paul incredible raw bass and tony unique angular drums) Its kinda lame, Looks like you just made that video to lick some balls along with other videos that you ironically posted about these two guys.

[@nicoladitolve951]

Fugazi

[@kreep182]

Please do a video on the 90's shoegaze music, and include "lush" and "pale saints" in it. I would be very grateful.

[@austintrousdale2397]

Mohammed Kortam This genre gets so little love 🌧

[@kreep182]

@@austintrousdale2397 I honestly dont know why. This genre is absolutely brilliant. When i first discovered it, the music took me by storm. Its not like the bands keep copying each other either. Every one is so unique. I can gush for hours over how much I like this genre in particular. But no one wants to read that :)

[@davidinman2788]

Slowdive

[@adriansvarela]

I’m actually from El Paso trying to bring shoegaze with my band. I love lush. Good stuff man

[@firechilde2341]

Our drummer was in a band with Myke Terry so our band is gonna recommend Volumes.

[@joshuaburns4797]

Fire Childe no one listens to djent anymore

[@theheritic209]

Good Shepherd idk if thats 100% true

[@Zamir87]

Misfits come from NY scene, but there technically from NJ

[@kool_thing]

Understanding Unwound, please.

[@jan279]

Please do Television, Marquee Moon is a monumental album.

[@lucanreynolds947]

Why is Key and Peele on the thumbnail?

[@LieLikesMusic]

They're not that similar eheh

[@OpaqueVisions47]

Ha! Never made that connection, now I can't unsee it.

[@edfire5777]

I asure you this country song isn't racist.

[@humbertopino]

hi... i entered to the pdf page but shows me the next message "This account has expired. If you are the site owner, click below to login." :(

[@corneliuspalahniuk345]

RATATAT

[@LorcaLoca]

Good video and that pdf is a really cool idea but I disagree with the premise that they changed the trajectory of punk. You missed out a lot of early important 90s post -hardcore bands who At the Drive based their sound on. Most notable - Drive Like Jehu. In that sense they are just like Nirvana, simply combining the styles of an era in a cohesive way. I feel the same way about Refused too, who are probably the face of post-hardcore.

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

Yeah drive like jehu is so similar to at the drive-in and I remember Cedric saying that if there was no drive like jehu there would be no relationship of command.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Thanks for informing me about this. The next time i make a video related to ATDI i'll be sure to take this into account. Cheers guys.

[@DarthTacoJedi]

I'd say Fugazi are arguably the face of post hardcore

[@matthewr7593]

You could argue though that by their popularity and stage show alone they still changed the trajectory of punk/emo/whatever. There's something to be said about bringing a sound to the masses and the way it influences a genre and also influences people to get into a genre. Hell, look at your Nirvana example. The amount of people that started bands because of them alone is an argument they changed things. Also, ATDI was very similar to Jehu, but also much looser and much less mathy-second wave emo. ATDI musically certainly was easier to grasp than Jehu.

[@ae6480]

Drive Like Jehu are great but Relationship of Command is an outright masterpiece, it transcends the genre completely, honestly similar to how Nirvana did with Nevermind. They did it better than anyone else and nobody has done it better since.

[@SkySplitterInk]

All about this video, but Nevermind of course came out in 91 not 94.

[@Tictac-s2e]

I always thought they sounded like a cross between Fugazi and Rage Against the Machine. I know that sounds weird LOL . The album Vaya was my favorite!

[@pizzafreak1175]

Oh my God, please, I need that PDF. Can someone share it with me, please?

[@taywimzzz]

Definitely do Frank Zappa. I'm surprised you haven't already done him.

[@hogpsking33]

Is this PDF still available somewhere?

[@GyroLamb]

There's something not right about Fred durst listening to ATDI

[@KenBeeKJV]

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut occasionally, just cuz his own music sucks doesn't mean he can't recognize better artists.

[@lessthanpinochet]

Fred Durst, believe it or not, has quite good taste in music. He's just hopelessly untalented himself.

[@DaveLampton]

Their story reminds me of a saying in the music industry, that (on average) "it takes seven years to become an overnight success".

[@LieLikesMusic]

Well said! I think that saying goes for a lot of industries and fields of mastery.

[@DaveLampton]

@@LieLikesMusic Very true. 90% hard work and 10% good luck... BOTH are required.

[@edmess6372]

They were ok. But I really do have to say this. The Mars Volta were so much better.

[@americanliving4473]

Awesome job mentioning Glassjaw. Their new album is really good if you haven’t listened.

[@diomiherrington]

Disappointing, as much as it kills me to say it- I thought it sucked. It’s flat and lacks the explosive melodic choruses that Glassjaw was known for. While the lack of separation and dynamics could partially be the result of the dreaded overuse of compression in modern music recording, I feel like the song writing is mostly to blame. Felt like Justin Beck was kind of just jamming and entertaining only himself. It’s just boring. I WANT to like it but I can’t.

[@LieLikesMusic]

There are a few songs on their second album that i really dig. But it's not all that good imo.

[@americanliving4473]

Diomi idk man. I’ve been listening to these dudes since 99-00, some years before ape dos mil and they were a really aggressive band. Their live shows were amazing. I agree they had explosive choruses but that’s only on their more well known songs. I think they did a good job getting back to their roots and it’s only 3 of the original or early day members. I may be biased due to my GJ tat as one of my most influential bands growing up. That band changed my mind and introduced me to and underground scene when I was 14. Do I play type of music, no. Still a huge influence just like RX Bandits really impacted me on my views on life. When it comes down to it as a musician I’d rather sound like John Lennon but I’ve still got much respect and love for Glassjaw. That band was built around energy during the days of spaz-core. Either way I’m just glad they put out a full length again. Coloring book was awesome but not enough material. lol.

[@carlossantiagogomez888]

New album oh snapp

[@ayeb0ss]

@@LieLikesMusic Damn bro you're trippin lol worship and tribute is a classic

[@davydexterzaide3047]

is there any chance that I can still have a copy of the PDF of their story? the link says it is already expired THANK YOU! awesome vid man BTW

[@anchorsawiegh669]

Do The Refused please, love you, thank you, cool thanks, looking forward to it!

[@mutilux9302]

“...Hard work ethic, and their-“ (Ad) “-timing.”

[@davidellis5141]

The The or Talk Talk or both !

[@LieLikesMusic]

Interesting choices of bands when seeing that they both have the same word mentioned twice in their name.

[@BigRedMu1e]

@@LieLikesMusic I'd love to see a vid on The The

[@robertaugustine9022]

The The would be lovely

[@davidellis5141]

@@LieLikesMusic Probably my mind at work. The The are doing a reunion tour as I write so they are still relevant. Johnny Marr on guitar.

[@Bixler4]

ArcArsenal is the greatest ATDI song ever. 🔥👌

[@philyates7670]

Enfilade

[@vk6554]

Please do something from math rock or midwest emo. Like Tiny Moving Parts

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

Coheed and Cambria

[@chillondickson8904]

You said husker du wrong. They have umlauts. You also forgot Fear and emerging post hard-core Botch. According my husband. He's has an insane mental band/music/ Iyric history of music. Wish he would do a podcast.

[@MrMikkyn]

I hope he explains all these genres and their evolutions. No Wave, noise rock, math rock, hardcore, post-hardcore, post-punk, pop-punk, grunge, jangle, indie-rock, alternative rock, djent, metalcore, omg.

[@sheepishlysly]

Every time I listen to Napoleon Solo or Invalid litter dept., I chill. At the Drive-in makes you relive a full spectrum of emotions without a cliffhanger; it doesn’t leave you angry or anxious or sad or happy, but it can take you from a state of emergency to the pure calm in one song; that’s exactly what art should do.

[@Jennamarbles121]

u said it perfectly

[@sheepishlysly]

@@Jennamarbles121 thank you

[@mikefelber5129]

At 11:15- Fred Durst is a better face for nu-metal, deftones are still releasing quality albums & shouldn’t be lumped in with that genre

[@LieLikesMusic]

I guess so. Limp Bizkit were way bigger than Deftones. But i still think both bands fit to the genre label. Deftones mixed metal with shoegaze and electronic music. That was very "nu" at the time.

[@Casey3-P-O]

I personally really like Acrobatic Tenement a lot. Maybe cuz it was the first ATDI album I had and also, something about listening to music in high school, it really sticks with you. I just really liked the songs. But all their other stuff is amazing too. My second favorite is Vaya. I love that. And the Mars Volta, I love all of their stuff. I've learned lots of Omar's guitar parts. I never really got into sparta though. Maybe i should give them another shot.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Yes when you're young it's easy to get stuck in your tracks musically. It's the same for me. I still listen to music that i was introduced to at that time. YESS Vaya is fucking amazing. Their best EP imo. And yes it seems like we have the same taste then. TMV is also one of my favorites. Omar's solo stuff is a bit too weird for me in most cases.

[@Casey3-P-O]

Lie Likes Music lol yes exactly. I haven’t gotten into Omar’s solo stuff. maybe it’s because it’s too weird, but i’m also thinking it just might be because he has so much solo stuff. it’s hard to know where to start. it’s almost overwhelming how much stuff he puts out, so i guess i haven’t given it a proper chance. and yea i think we definitely have a similar taste in music. pretty much every video you put out are bands that i listen to.

[@FangsFirst]

If you want to hit Sparta running, it's probably Porcelain, imo. Most cohesive record they did. If cohesion isn't a thing to you, Wiretap Scars works as well.

[@Casey3-P-O]

FangsFirst hmm alright i’ll start with Porcelain. i really always loved Jim Ward’s vocals along with Cedric’s old style...so maybe i’ll like Sparta. ima listen to them right now actually. thanks.

[@lessthanpinochet]

Definitely check out Wiretap Scars from Sparta, its excellent especially if you like the more melodic ATDI songs. And the drummer on Acrobatic Tenement was incredible, he's what made that album for me.

[@internetbadboy7053]

What was the Ramones sing in the begging

[@CholoBeavis]

GLASSJAW CHANGES POST HARDCORE.

[@theclassicmanila-style8435]

Facts 🔥🔥🔥 to this day glassjaw first 2 albums are still full of energy,

[@blednost.]

Grande glassjaw! 199

[@Slappaccino]

Well...Glassjaw and Thursday, At the Drive In, and Sunny Day Real Estate.

[@djsoulfilter]

I second this!!

[@bambi8315]

Glassjaw and ATDI changed my life. I'm almost 30 and when it comes to music, I've never felt again what I felt the first time I heard those albums when I was a teenager.

[@helpimabug]

Great band, even better timing: 1. They were better and less self-serious than the Quicksands/Jawboxes of the mid-nineties 2. They got publicity and radio airplay from the booming nu-metal scene of the early 00s, and that audience had never heard any post-hardcore 3. They were melancholy enough to jive with the third-wave emo onslaught that came in the mid-00's. But I always doubted that the Taking Back Sunday and Dashboard Confessional fans every really listened to their music when they said they did.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Some good points here! If i had known before, i would add this to the video. Did you grow up with this music or did you read about this somewhere on the web? Just curious how you know this.

[@flmalegre]

What a coincidence, just barely about a week and a half ago i got to see them live for the first time. This station is, no doubts about it, now operational.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Hahah that sure is good timing. Did you dig the show?

[@flmalegre]

@@LieLikesMusic I dunno it if was objectively good or not, because this was, to me, the climax of a build up ten years in the making. But I had a motherfucking BLAST man, it was great.

[@Sunny-lu9un]

They're still playing?

[@sambajane]

the pdf link is broken

[@dannylorean8825]

You showed bad brains numerous times but never mentioned them or gave them cred as being pioneers in the hardcore scene... although, my wife did just jump out of the shower and I got a little distracted, maybe I missed something?

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

Nope no verbal mention.

[@LieLikesMusic]

I'll honor their work sometime in the future. Don't worry

[@gorillaump5869]

Is there pics of the wife, or is this just a tease?

[@Discotraxx16]

@@gorillaump5869 LMAO!!!

[@finnstewart4820]

Nevermind did not come out in 94

[@daliend]

Thank you so much for this, I've recently witnessed their last concerts here in Brazil. I never would have thought that someday I´d seen them live. 18 years waiting. The importance of this band will never be acknowledge or even matched.

[@kupk6125]

that concert was bat shit crazy everybody was singing!!!! 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽

[@hollowify_tensa_zangetsu]

THE STOOGES ARE PUNK ROCK. Okay, you dam red coat!🤗

[@Limerick.]

What?

[@adamsherif8323]

i gotta say the visuals in this video are really well done

[@LieLikesMusic]

Thank you! Yes i tried to put a little more effort into this one.

[@rotocope2]

Misfits are NOT from New York. They are from Lodi, New Jersey.

[@LieLikesMusic]

That's true. Sorry for getting this wrong.

[@jesperbc]

Jus tone comment: It's a mistake using Deftones as a reference to nu metal at around 11:15. They were never nu metal, just shoehorned in with the nu metal bands by their label.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Well i guess it depends how you define Nu Metal. What's your definition of it?

[@DGD4Landy]

@@LieLikesMusic everything/everyone else but Deftones.

[@boyman7823]

@@DGD4Landy slipknot also isnt nu-metal

[@Ozzlord666]

@@boyman7823 fist álbum from Deftoned is Nu Metal, also Slipknot First álbum too.

[@cuteasxtreme]

So Nirvana wasn't grunge cause it was just a media label meant to shoehorn them into a category? That's just what genres are bud.

[@25skatelive]

Y’all it’s crazy that I just discovered this band

[@callumcrossley7926]

I know you’ve already done Damon Albarn, but it would be really cool to see a full video on blur. They were huge in the UK at the time, so it would be interesting to hear about them from someone outside of the UK!

[@anti-ethniccleansing465]

Does anyone remember At the Drive-In performing in Southern California in the very late 90s (MAYBE early 2000s at the very latest, but my memory says late 90s), at a small festival show called “At the Picnic” or something like that? I went there just for them. Such a great performance!

[@BeriaDzerzhinsky]

Zen Arcade is a masterpiece still holds up to this day

[@deadlightdrifter3462]

Very solid album.

[@LieLikesMusic]

Still haven't listened all the way through. But my first impression is pretty good.

[@ptcrusa]

That and it's follow up New Day Rising are some of the most groundbreaking records of the 80s.

[@maidanon]

NEVERMIND were released on 94????????????? Mannnn in that year they edited "MTV Unplugged in New York"!!! Nevermind were edited on 1991... By the way; ATDI were formed in 1993. There are many problems with the time...

[@daviddoodles8736]

Love At the drive in

[@LieLikesMusic]

Ditto

[@daviddoodles8736]

Have you heard of alt-j ?

[@sudiptoaichbhowmik]

I know you have made a video but you should make another video about NINE INCH NAILS

[@koenwieringa1904]

Wow, this is a great video! Big fan of ATDI here, very cool stuff! As for the next band? I dunno, ATDI is one of my favorites. I'd like to see a video on Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer or Interpol. Keep up the great vids, Lie! :)

[@LieLikesMusic]

Smashing Pumpkins seems to be a popular request. So i'll most likely do one about them. Thanks for the feedback dude! I'm a big fan of ATDI too so i had a blast making this. Cheers from Norway!

[@koenwieringa1904]

@@LieLikesMusic Hehehe, just take your pick. I don't like people pushing for their band to see. I'd like to see your favorites, because sometimes that gets me into music I didn't know before. Cheers from The Netherlands! (According to Norway's own Ylvis our language doesn't exist, hahahaha - Oh, come to think of it: Understanding Ylvis? :P :P :P)

[@dandosapershing6103]

BAAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAAAA BAAAAAAAAA

[@ebm93]

DO TOM WAITS

[@MrMikkyn]

Husker Du, Glassjaw and At The Drive in are posthardcore and early proponents, but they are so different from eachother. Zen Arcade sounds like punky garage, noise rock, kinda beatlesy, post-punkish with their track “What’s Going On”, almost Krautrocky, kind of Alternative Rock-ish with their track “Whatever” REM vibes. Relationship of Command. Their first track Arcasanal gives of a funky salsa prog. Amost like a salsa-esque screaming version of Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Pattern Against The User gives off a punk vibe, One Armed Scissor gives off a djenty esque situation, Sleepwalk gives me a posthardcore vibe, Invalid Litter gives me post-punk vibe, Mannequin Republic gives me a punk vibe, Enfilade gives me a Bossa Nova meets Linkin Park vibe, Quarantined gives me a dub rock vibe. 13 Songs by Fugazi. Track one gives me a dub reggae vibe, almost funk but not funk. Grungy. Nirvana almost, I knownit was before Nirvana, so proto-Nirvana. Bulldog Front reminds me of Silversun Pickups, obviously they were before them, Bad Mouth almost sounds like pop-rock, Burning gives me an dark ambient industrial vibe. Give me the cure, not sure how to categorise this - experimental. Suggestion gives of a funk-esque vibe, Killing in the Name of Rage Against the Macchine vibes. Cursive’s Domestica gives me a grungy vibe. And then later bands sound nothing like these experimental bands. Bands like Jimmie Eat World, Hawthorne Heights, From First to Last, Thrice, Emery, Sleeping with Sirens, Saosin, Scary Kids Scaring Kids, Amity Affliction. I am actually confused on what “pure” post-hardcore is. Are the later more polished and melodic bands post-hardcore, or is it pop-punk, djent, what? And then the earlier ones are they “real” post hardcore because of the obscure melodies, and the angular chord progressions? I don’t know. I will never know. I need a full blown analysis. Lol