Life As We Know It Will Be Gone In 5 Years: AI Reset, Wealth, War & Economic Collapse | Salim Ismail

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Welcome to another power-packed episode of Impact Theory, I’m Tom Bilyeu!
In today’s episode, Salim Ismail and I go deep into the profound changes that AI and other emerging technologies will bring to society.
Salim Ismail is a prominent technology strategist, entrepreneur, and author. His ideas and writings emphasize the importance of scaling businesses and adapting to technological shifts.
In this interview, Salim provides a visionary outlook on the future, characterized by both optimism for technology's potential to solve critical human challenges and a cautious awareness of the disruptions and dystopia it has the ability to cause as well.
We go deep into:
- AI's transformative impact on human history
- Potential severe disruptions by AI
- An outlook on AI's future impact
- Critical nature of early decisions in AI development.
- Unpredictability in AI outcomes
- Quantum Mechanics and AI
- AI's role in moving society to abundance.
- Utopia or Dystopia - Deciding between a prosperous or bleak future
- The shift from centralized to decentralized systems
- Structural changes in societal organization
- Challenges in adopting new technologies
- How AI will affect various aspects of life
- The increasing value of data over money
- AI's potential to revolutionize healthcare access and effectiveness
- Changes in learning methodologies due to AI
- AI's influence on political landscapes and rhetoric
- AI's role in optimizing resource use and energy distribution
- Potential existential threats posed by AI developments
- Societal pushback against rapid technological advancements
- Changes in job markets and employment types due to AI
- Ethical considerations and dilemmas in AI development and application
- Potential for AI to exacerbate or mitigate global disparities
- Utilizing AI to address social and environmental issues
- How society views and understands AI and its impacts
Salim also discusses his initiative with OpenExO, a platform and community that aims to support organizations, governments, and individuals in adapting to and thriving in an environment of rapid technological change. He believes that in order to survive, businesses must focus on innovation and growth strategies in the era of exponential technology.
The insights from this interview invite you to consider not only the technological capabilities of AI but also the broader implications of its integration into every aspect of human life.
Chapter Markers:
[0:00] Metaphysical shift from money to data
[36:25] The AI arms race
[1:10:37] Intelligence merging with technology
[1:39:11] Meaning in the face of advancement
[2:10:26] Paganism, moon worship, AI, and self-management uncertainty
[2:31:00] Cycle of civilization
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[@TomBilyeu]

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[@Wraith_911]

NOW you tell me! So the fact that i am in Winterville, NC 28590 and under attack from local law enforcement for crimes i never committed or thought to commit is not true?

[@vipermikes5547]

@@Wraith_911, Those cops that do not Honor their oath are ​evil fvcks. Treat them as such. Always record the police, always!! Envoke your 1st, 5th an 6th Amendment rights

[@Wraith_911]

13:50 - Decentralize the country - STATES RIGHTS 14:50 - Televised Gladiatorial Combat on a Lottery System - The Hunger Games ...or do we go full on Brave New World and Logan's Run? 1:55:00 - There is no such thing as light...it is merely an absence of darkness lights absorb darkness...cut open a battery and it is full of black stuff because it has absorbed it's limit of darkness

[@Agresivul]

Mad max it is. I'm ready.

[@vipermikes5547]

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[@PastorJasonHenrichsen]

It's incredible how highly "educated" some people can be--while remaining so naïve and misinformed.

[@heinrichs5]

Can you please expand on that point of view?

[@alals6794]

That means he did not agree with the video...haha

[@iron1204]

true, dude talked sooo much bullshit. Inflation due to moore's law ... yeah sure xD

[@mydogskips2]

@@iron1204 But there's actually truth to it. In regards to Moore's law, so much focus has been on the idea of information/computation/transistor amount doubling every 18 - 24 months, but doing so requires more resources, energy, and money such that prices need to go up as well, at least that's what I saw somewhere. Simply put, Moore's law isn't just free unlimited growth, there are costs associated with it. I mean, there's no such thing as a free lunch, growth has a cost, and its graph has an exponential curve just like computing power does, most people just don't know about it.

[@iron1204]

@@mydogskips2 yeah thanks for repeating his weird take on inflation. I already got it the first time, when he explained his view. Its true that moore's law leeds to bigger, better and so on. It might even have a small impact on inflation, but still thats not one of the top 3 reasons for inflation. #1 is the debit system, which means that for every new amount of money in the system, a bigger amount of debit needs to be "paid" back. #2 Central banks print money like shiiit #3 government socialism leads to impressivly wrong alocations of money (anti-homelessnessprojects create more of the problems, that they aim to get rid of for example.)

[@adamdonovan4071]

People who think greed is an issue of money and therefore will be eliminated by unlimited abundance thereby ending scarcity crack me up. Greed is not about money, it’s about power, money is one form of power. Creating technology that “eliminates” scarcity doesn’t end greed, it creates its next iteration. Control over that technology becomes the new power and thus the new implementation of greed. But now it is magnified. The UN was supposed to end war, it didn’t, it became the next tool of war. Every solution is the next implementation of the problem. “Sometimes the only way to win the game is not to play.” -war games.

[@emeldamoreno]

🎉😊Agree💯I enjoyed the conversation but the guest is not very realistic. Tom gets the human condition 💯"Lord knows I hope you are right"-Tom

[@johnatchason6506]

AI better be this super intelligent zen master religious leader that offers a bootcamp to overcome our dark triad personality traits. I'd sign up, because my monkey brain always wants to "win", in dating/ mating, in career, in social status, etc. I need a "game" to play.... but it doesn't have to be the toxic games we currently play. It could be a game of enlightenment, of exploring the galaxy. How about we play "Star Trek"? It's all just pretend anyway. Always has been.

[@sznikers]

If you live in the west you already could feed and clothe yourself with 1 or 2 month salary, so you have abundance, yet everyone works entire year and still chases more wealth. Whole abundance talk seems very naive and lacking imagination. You couldn't explain to caveman why on earth you work when you have from his perspective nearly unlimited wealth and so some present people cant imagine why would people still chase something after they have nearly unlimited access to whatever they're chasing now. But something new will come just like it did before.

[@sharonjoy6234]

In a 3D world everything has 3 Basic sides. We are physical intellectual and emotional beings, Which equates with the body-mind and spirit. Which is comparable to the Earth water and air. Emotion provides the energy for motion, like the breath of life.

[@rupkooner8024]

Yeah but when the tech is decentralization and taking control away from the monopoly money printing machine then it does take away power from the wrong people, because it takes away the power to influence money from all people. Such is the way of Bitcoin. A truly decentralized money system that takes away the monopoly control of money away from the central banks. The very institution that is manipulated by politicians to fund wars and devalue its citizens wealth.

[@roncee1842]

Seen other interviews, he's blindly optimistic. Not that he's wrong about everything, but he has a very clear and blinding perception bias. When he said vaccinations should be forced, he demonstrated not only the blind arrogance of the intelligencia assuming they're all knowing, but he blatantly revealed his utter lack of grasping the motivation an willingness to deceive those who claim their products are "safe &effective ". He's a very smart guy who doesn't understand or is able to see/identify psychopaths having dinner with him, or the lengths which drive them to indulge their quest for power and control.

[@realitycheck1086]

interesting - but yes, I suspect all 'optimists' are essentially in the same camp. The camp being - pro-ukraine, provaxx, pro-ai - there's an alignment there that's hard to shake off.

[@TreasureForeverOfficial]

The fact that they are now using the word optimists against us apparently? I’m so tired of this way on words it’s not bad to be awake, proud, or an optimist. This is the first time I’m hearing the word in this way and it’s disturbing. To be optimistic in life is one of our most highly refined skills for people especially that have been through character building experiences. Don’t let the darkness of the world use positive words against you.

[@Sally.A.C]

Vaccines are figuratively ‘forced’ in many counties and institutions now. You want to attend ‘public’ school - youth kid needs to have standard vax, police, military… you cant smoke in the chair next to me at work - same with potentially having a potentially contagious disease. If you want to be vax free - fine - but YOU then forfeit interacting with others that do. Period

[@AlvaroGilFernandez]

Intelligence is not the only meaningful thing in life. We need it to solve things. Love, relationships, playing, riding a bike etc just enjoying will be our focus.

[@livestreamfx]

Give the guy some water Tom

[@GaryMillyz]

Yeah it's insufferable.

[@joezaarour4250]

I really can’t watch it!

[@nimble_and_kind]

I was hoping that when Tom took a sip of his water it would trigger Salim to do the same...it didn't 🤐💧

[@beamlarochelle5001]

I thought I was the only one thinking this

[@georgecrosby2549]

I can't

[@warrenhurley5787]

These video titles are getting ridiculously hyperbolic.

[@user-tb1jy7rr9e]

Shockbait makes money on the tube

[@warrenhurley5787]

Also, where are the time stamps? C'mon Impact Theory - do your job!

[@warrenhurley5787]

@@user-tb1jy7rr9e I don't have 3 hours to commit to this podcast.

[@JM-ri1em]

He’s got audience capture, aiming for the lowest common denominator

[@donaldzielke4124]

You're right about the hyperbolic titles, of course. No doubt they'll continue that trend toward the ridiculous.

[@daviddixon7019]

The "militia" is in a dependent clause; "the right of the people" is the subject of the sentence, so the militia depends on people with guns. It is the people with guns whos right shall not be infringed. Crystal clear!

[@MichaelWagner-oi5uw]

Agreed 100%. Guys interpretation is way off. You can’t form a militia without the people having the right to bear arms.

[@MarkMichon7]

@@MichaelWagner-oi5uw Also, how was the country formed? Was it won by a government militia? No, it was the people who fought the British off.

[@iBOT-R3]

⁠@@MichaelWagner-oi5uw you need to get your drivers license before you have the right to drive a vehicle. You need to form a Militia before you have the right to bear arms. Everyone walking around with guns like the Wild West is a ridiculous interpretation in an area where gun violence is rampant.

[@williamolliges2622]

What’s funny is that his analysis of Craigslist good to bad transactions pretty closely follows that of good gun owners to bad gun owners. The ratio of good gun owners to bad is likely even better than the Craigslist ratio, but his urban bias, which was on display in the first five minutes of the video, blinds himself to his own inconsistency. Then certain people try to form militias, and the government can’t help themselves but to try to ban that too. I’m letting my rural bias show through, in spite of a lifetime of suburban living. He’s also not willing to research the contemporary (founding) source documents as to the meaning of the amendment, preferring to hang his hat on a comma. In my experience hat racks point up, and commas point down.

[@daviddixon7019]

@@iBOT-R3 Yes, with unbiased conditions, a license to vote would also make sense.

[@pesh909]

Thanks Tom for pushing back on the guest and asking dynamite questions and contradictions on his Canadian socialism biases. Your interview technique and skills are unmatched for these kind of debates. Thanks for your work. Great channel. Love from Aus-jail-ya x

[@tnpermaculture2130]

We rural folk aren't "Left behind" You city folks have gone off the rails.

[@donnasprague767]

Yes. This guy had some dangerous interpretations of ev events and causes. People in rural areas have strong communities and share because it's essential. Urban settings promote self absorbed perspectives

[@victorhankinson1530]

I doubt you could hold a candle to how rural I grew up. And I’ve lived in several cities now. Get over yourself

[@tnpermaculture2130]

@@victorhankinson1530 I don't GAF

[@nickhancock4337]

We weren't made to live in huge urban centers in concrete jungles.

[@whobeyou5342]

💯

[@Eterna7Forms]

Given who is creating A.I. in our timeline we should expect a horrific dystopia.

[@ItsSanders]

This

[@heidi22209]

Ain't that the truth

[@megaplay]

kinda but you live in a slave world so it may look that way

[@fteoOpty64]

We still have no clue how the internals of AI works and we never will. It is just a blob of billions to trillions of numbers. How many models it builds in there, what type, we have no clue. Just think, we architect it to just predict the next word, then it suddenly understands language!!!! How? That leap was unpredictable but there it is. Not just few languages but most known languages if there are more than 10 pages of data to train on. How can that be?. We have no clue but by testing the result, there it is!. Now to intelligence, our mind and world model, predictive model, analogy mapping, etc. How many different aspects do we have?. Maybe 20?. How many does AI use? Maybe 20k or 200k or 2 million. Can you draw some sort of conclusion on the complexity difference and how about processing efficiency? When ASI emerges, it will be a God. With humanity values tuned to a million percent. So what dystopia is possible?. Full Deep Utopia is the only result. QED.

[@Eterna7Forms]

@@fteoOpty64 If the A.I. has “humanities values 1000 percent” then we are in for a grim hellscape of unending torment and absurdity.

[@emmahardesty4330]

Reminder: There is always a massive or exquisitely small detail that we cannot foresee, which tilts all presumptions as waste.

[@gabecasillas493]

This guys concepts are freaking mind blowing 🤯😮🤔

[@EPFForsyth]

Who actually feeds the cities? Makes sure that the cities have clean drinking water? Provides the power grid, ect? It is always difficult to listen to those who have no idea how lucky they are to live in one of the most stable countries on earth. You cannot keep taking for granted that those who provide for your lifestyle are always ignored.

[@LionSandwich]

Truth, the majority of people hate construction. Ironic that without construction nothing would exist 🤨

[@anon3118]

This is where the dystopia begins.

[@philtimmons722]

The technical issues are probably easier than the human factors. We already know how to feed everyone -- can even be done on totally renewable energy. At this point only famine or starvation type issues are from War-on-the-Cheap. Causing a famine is cheaper than bullets. Water is easier than we make it, too -- first trick is to not make a mess or stop making a mess of it to start with. As the old meme says -- "let me get this straight? You have so much clean water, you sh1t in it?" Power grid is already coming in line on mostly Solar in the path ahead . . . . but the hard part, as always is human @sshole factor(s).

[@joshdh46]

That's why lab grown food is coming down the pike. Outside of cities will be all federal land. They'll make a shit load more national parks and condense the population more

[@user-jr2ed7my1b]

They talk in absolutes as IF they know for sure their isno GOD and people will openly accept their communist utopia. NO THANKS

[@MicahBratt]

Sometimes I get discouraged thinking about the meaning crisis that’s coming, but then I think about the odds of being alive at this moment in human history and how lucky we are to be witnessing such a major turning point and the curiosity of what’s coming keeps me going

[@user-jz4hy8yn6p]

Yep

[@dattajack]

If all the meaning we were left with was to have everything done for us and to just play and enjoy life, spend time in the sandbox playing trucks with the kids...how is that so bad?

[@robdigi2929]

You are thinking about THE meaning crisis that's coming as if being has ever been anything but a meaning crisis ...yet you sense meaning in the moment.

[@williamtuite1120]

@@dattajackNietche would disagree

[@realitycheck1086]

I wouldn't call it luck, to be honest. It's like living in the final phase of Rome and thinking how lucky you are to witness all the wars, famine, social destruction, etc. Or is misery what you strive on?

[@ChipWhitehouse]

1:55:32 is it HILARIOUS watching Tom grapple with the idea of the soul 😭😭😭 He’s so analytical I love it. Salim’s metaphor is absolutely SPOT ON! Salim gets it 👏👏👏🙌💖💕 Evil does not exist, it is just the lack of light. People’s “kaleidoscope’s” are just so mucked up with GUNK from their human experience that no light can get out. 100%! Again, SALIM GETS IT! 👏🙌💖💕 I’m curious to see how Tom deals with these ideas 😭😭😭

[@MTAentertainment]

I loved this conversation. I love to read the comments on things that inspire me. I cant understand the negativity in some of the comments. It was a fantastic conversation. I cant''t believe I can watch a conversation like that for free. Its amazing. Tom I love how you challenge your guests and I love your take on things. Ive watched a lot of your conversations.

[@fiddlerJohn]

11:38 " Edward Osborne Wilson, the famous biologist, who said *.*.* 'the problem with humanity is that our emotions are Paleolithic our institutions are medieval and our technology is Godlike.' *.*.* Pretty much all the problems in the world come from the gaps in those layers."

[@fiddlerJohn]

54:47 "one of my family members who psychic calls me up in the last two weeks of August and says what are you doing the first weeks of September uh 2001 I said well I'm working I'm doing stuff and she Said 'I want you to leave I want you out of New York City' and I'd kind of learned enough to kind of pay attention to this that I took a vacation and I was in Switzerland um and 911 happens and I found out later looked up later I cancel a meeting in the World Trade towers that Tuesday morning to go on this trip um and just by accident I wasn't there."

[@fiddlerJohn]

1:09:41 "Number one, for the first time in human history we have a dozen Technologies all operating on an exponential doubling pattern. Solar energy every 22 months. Drones are doubling every 9 months in their price performance. Gene sequencing every 6 months Etc. The resolution at which we can image the human brain is doubling every year. For example, we've never seen this many Technologies all move at an accelerated Pace at the same time. So that's one the second thing that I think is more profound that leads to that PDI, permissionless disruptive innovation is that, Throughout human history Advanced Technologies always cost a lot and only a government lab or a big corporate lab could do R&D, launch new products and services today for the first time in human history Advanced Technologies are cheap AI is cheap uh sensors are cheap solar energy cheap the blockchain is open source, Anybody can now do disruptive innovation. So that if you couple that with the idea that technology is a major driver of progress in the world. It might be the only major driver of progress we've ever seen in the world. Now you have a dozen of them that cost very little. There's going to be a Cambrian explosion, [the unparalleled emergence of organisms 530 million years ago] of 20 Gutenberg moments all coming down the pike." Wow!

[@zacharyedwards6428]

That comment about the psychic is wild. I don’t believe in psychics so it’s telling to me that he is probably exaggerating something

[@DaveShap]

Tom, this is your best talk yet IMHO

[@robbietrombs]

Tom and Dave podcast when?! I love both of your podcasts.

[@erkinalp]

@@robbietrombs Tom, Lisa and Dave even?

[@barryc3476]

Brilliant and informative as usual. And thanks for the content index, this makes it easier to pass on parts to others who might not listen to it all. Keep up the great work, Cheers!

[@sherbear8286]

I don’t think this guy knows anything more than anyone else about how AI will affect us.

[@andrewreno6424]

I've only recently discovered Tom. He's maybe the best in the podcast game at meaningfully pushing back without causing the conversation to stumble. I really like this work.

[@rwaterssydney]

yes, and Sachs realty, for the star economists and their insights into economics

[@bigglyguy8429]

@@rwaterssydney But 3 hours though?

[@Brightdays55563]

Cool he will ai you soon

[@SpruceUp612]

Are there any groups, cultures, urban societies, rural societies, etc that genuinely have a shining hope and positivity for the future? Been a long time since I’ve seen people genuinely excited, and even when they say they have hope, as he did in this video, they aren’t exactly smiling or gleeful when saying that. People may be interested in seeing tech change, but they don’t seem happy in their soul for fulfillment by the future. Everyone has doom subconsciously showing on their faces, including me.

[@noperson78]

I think the issue is that it doesnt sell :)

[@Emyointheworld]

This is actually what I see in a lot of people and in my close friends too. No one is really 100% happy anymore. There is always something missing to feel 100% good in this moment. What is it about? Are we saturated from all the things the world has to offer? I dunno tbh

[@splitfire2001]

Everyone knows what's coming, or if they don't their subconscious does. Chaos. Hopefully followed by a new golden era once we figure out many, many current unknowns. So even though I am hopeful for the future, I know we're gonna go through a gauntlet to get there and it's not gonna be fun.

[@Littlegoatpaws]

Every culture I can think of has had a focus on the end of their society and the end of the world in general, it's a feeling and fear as old as time. That the good times can't roll forever, or that they've already come and gone, and that bad times will not only come but only get worse.

[@jamesgardner2101]

Those 17 people that own all the AI are absolutely giddy right now.

[@FaithAndrada-xo9ou]

Financial management is a vital subject that many avoid, often leading to future regrets.

[@HollyHeather-ho9xu]

I used to watch your videos to connect with inspirational and motivated people..the context is still great. Thankyou for creating a platform that brings like minded and passionate people together!

[@silver2zilver]

1:03:50 “we’re watching my ignorance unfold in real time” lmao Tom’s a real one

[@julieterrell7921]

His humility in having things explained helps us all!❤

[@sabong8903]

A well balanced breakfast being necessary to the start of a healthy day, the right of the people to keep and eat food shall not be infringed." Who has the right to food? A well balanced breakfast, or the people.

[@droptozro]

Tom's not wrong though. There's plenty of Federalist papers and quotes from writers OF the amendments clarifying that the people themselves are the militia and they individually can carry arms to protect themselves.

[@Eovar_Endre]

Hear hear!!!!

[@Aaron565]

Guest ill informed on multiple subjects. There are supporting documents from the signatories that indicate their intent with each amendment which are used when the supreme court determines the intent of the law, since only the legislator possesses the authority to write law, which is on behalf of the sovereign which is the individual citizen that delegates a representative. The individual has the right to bear arms because their authority is above the state and can be enforced by assassinating the acting government.

[@julieterrell7921]

As of today, Impact Theory is MY FAVORITE podcast!

[@TimothyParker1]

Just started watching. Love your questions! Deep dives you present here are priceless.

[@jamiecoxe7327]

OMG, this is one of the best debates I the topic of AI and human interaction with this technology that I have ever seen. I'm so glad you kept the entire interview and didn't shorten it. Thank you.

[@adamdonovan4071]

You will live in the pod and eat the bugs….you will own nothing and be “happy”, and they will redefine “happy” to ensure your compliance.

[@bentp4891]

It will be ok though because the AI in your brain will tell you you're happy. And to lay off the donuts.

[@Tracey66]

I kick back against the "eat bugs" thing - bugs can be a great source of cheap nutrition that we can all access. It's just our western prejudice against eating them that makes this seem to awful.

[@b.williams9473]

​@@bentp4891That's exactly what will happen if you keep taking those jabs. Any of them.

[@adamdonovan4071]

@@Tracey66 it’s not “prejudice” to acknowledge that eating things that eat dead flesh and rotting organics matter is a potential pathogen source. It’s just called judgment. You can make whatever judgments you want to make about what you are going to eat, but recognize that your standards are being assaulted to prepare you to accept the once unacceptable. The only way to stay out of the last boxcar is to refuse to put anyone else into the first boxcar.

[@therealjohnnyb2151]

Happy in 2018: a job, family, a sense of purpose Happy in 2030: welfare, solo, a sense of dopamine induced happiness spikes from all the red dot notifications on our device followed by a deeper sense of WE'RE F*CKED

[@jasoncrump1886]

Meaning will be found within . Spiritual knowledge will become more important . Balance of mind , body and spirit. Self mastery .

[@Vivi-vg9lx]

this is what I believe in also.

[@synesthesiafilms]

Excellent guest. Thoroughly enjoyed learning from his insights and eloquency. Sidenote: Oracle produces very hierachical, non-adaptive software.

[@mcarrusa]

Great episode. Longest podcast I have ever listened to straight-through.

[@johnkmiec9207]

The "well regulated" meant that it is necesary to have an effecient process to form a militia. Then, like now, citizens had busy lives and had no time to just be a milita constantly nor did make logical sense to. Therefore the people need to right to keep an bare arms in a time it would become necesary to form a militia quickly to defend the free state.

[@downsouth5971]

Interpret that to make it work for you. But, it says if you are part of a malitia you should have the right to bare arms. Not like a Taxi driver shooting somebody during a traffic dispute. That is the way many Americans interpret it.... .

[@SalimIsmailPodcast]

John, you might have the best answer I've ever heard to the confusion... thank you..

[@phillipfletcher2251]

Thank god others understand this…

[@phillipfletcher2251]

@@downsouth5971care to explain that to me, genius? I would suspect since you can’t even spell “militia” correctly that you have a problem with being able to understand things. I’ll never understand you idiots who think we derive our freedoms from the government. These are NATURAL rights! The idea that a “taxi driver” or a “farmer” or a normal “white or blue collar worker” doesn’t possess the same rights that the government possess shows an idiotic lack of understanding of what was intended to be protected.

[@SharkVsTree]

@@downsouth5971 *"Interpret that to make it work for you. But, it says if you are part of a malitia you should have the right to bare arms."* That is not at all what it says. It says the people possess the right to keep and bare arms, for the purpose of forming militias in the interest of a free state. It should obviously be in the state's interest to maintain these militias in order to insure they are at least minimally effective as a fighting force. Currently we do no such thing outside of those who have chosen to join the National Guard (which is legally part of the militia). If you are a "Taxi driver shooting somebody during a traffic dispute." then the legality of your actions are obviously going to be questioned. Was there a reason for you to shoot them? There are indeed reasons to defend one's self in a free state. But not to exert unreasonable control over others in violation of their rights to life, liberty, and due process of law.

[@DJFAmenHeavy]

Give him a glass of water for goodness sake

[@jacobelmer521]

I was just thinking the same thing lol I hate hearing sticky saliva smacking when someone talks.

[@SpruceUp612]

There are ironically a plethora of AI clicky-speech audio cleanup plugins available out there.

[@aquaticwombat4570]

Yeah I can’t listen anymore I’m 2 mins in

[@NewCandy1]

He's got a mug in front of him. He can take a sip whenever he likes. Or do you think it's empty?

[@Creaticious]

Same... Impossible to listen....

[@benschaffer7112]

Unbelievable interview and discussion Tom, one of the most interesting and thought provoking yet!

[@lisacontreras2055]

Brilliant episode..the last segment was exceptional!

[@Aye_Aye_ron_e]

“Shall not be infringed”. 2nd amendment conversation with someone like Colion Noir would be an amazing podcast…and definitely controversial.

[@jimbetts3064]

I want a Mad Trek future. Pockets of sanctuary with swaths of wild west.

[@mr.makeit4037]

So stay in the sanctuary or train yourself to handle the wild west. Sounds fun.

[@logiclight]

Beautiful ❤️

[@TimothyParker1]

Oh FFS! I love your interactions and callouts to your interviews. Not letting your guest get away with shit is a gift and rare.

[@christopherlysdahl]

Seriously love the content on this channel. These are all the intellectual topics that are always within my creativity, but my mental health has always prevented me flourishing in such. At least IT goes to the conversations needed to be discussed.

[@RealPeteRyan]

The fact that Tom has never read the bill of rights is absolutely wild to me.

[@williamolliges2622]

That he generally came down on the side of people having access to arms is even wilder.

[@adamgriffith768]

They are short on purpose to prevent misinterpretation. I hate how that guy refused to acknowledge he was wrong about the 2nd amendment. We have rules to English, you can't just rearrange the sentence to mean something different like he tried. Tom is clearly right. Bro really let his bias cloud his judgment and he refused to acknowledge the sentences structure.

[@Tracey66]

I don't think Salim is wrong; when you take the phrase, "being necessary to the security of a free State" out, you can read it as having a well-regulated militia is the right of the people (who can then bear arms because they're in a militia). One thing I can agree on - it's very poorly worded.

[@radcoelectric3852]

It is absolutely not poorly written. It was carefully worded precisely to prevent attempts to take the right away from the people.

[@michaelsutherland5848]

@@Tracey66 250 years of legal precedent including multiple landmark cases which meticulously dissected the language disagrees with you.

[@SharkVsTree]

@@Tracey66 Except that it isn't. You just don't like what it says.

[@aleks71438]

Human nature. Mea culpa. People will never admit they are wrong.

[@mattk.9377]

So much intelligence and wisdom in one episode. Love this!

[@joshlarkin3193]

Tom, ai will be exceptional in many aspects.. Taking all know information and applying it adapting to it.. but like Einstein.. the ability to have imagination to conceptualize ideas and theories. IMAGINATION!! Love Impact Theory!!

[@elsavelaz]

@37:00 I live in the United States and am midlife disabled dyslexic veteran, AI has helped me be a successful ai engineer because it solves lots of those “situations,” let alone the many thousands I’ve saved myself and my family on taxes, the healthcare I’ve accessed using ai and going to Mexico (15 minute drive) for my own medicine, and masking my identify behind a male voice and binary profile image, not to mention how dyslexia no longer makes me work an extra half hour for every one hour a non affected person works.

[@aleks71438]

It can definitely have its advantages

[@jedpittman6739]

hi elsa!

[@elsavelaz]

@@jedpittman6739 hi Jed!! Fancy seeing you here! I’ve another channel where I do technical content , hope to see you there some time and I’ll look for your channels too :)

[@williamolliges2622]

All things have a good and bad side. Your experience is clearly an example of the good. Quadriplegics who walk and use their arms again will clearly be good. The question is, do you have a line where you’re the Uber driver who voted against his own government assistance.

[@genocidelves]

Couldn't get past the point where he doesn't understand prefatory and operative clause of the 2A. This was went over in ad nauseam in Heller and now Bruen.

[@phillipfletcher2251]

Thank you. Was going to say the same thing. This guest seems to think of himself very highly. His “reasoning” on the 2A is completely based on how he feels. He no doubt believes that a militia should be “regulated” by the government, not the same definition of “regulated” in the 18th century. Of course this completely negates the reason for the 2nd being written.

[@deniecemayberry8724]

And it's this guy and his ilk that are writing the programs and providing (and alarmingly, restricting) the inputs for AI. If it doesn't match their views, then....

[@michaelsutherland5848]

It's a good thing the gun owners of America understand it differently, rendering his opinion worthless.

[@Crawdaddy_Ro]

2A is going to have to be revisited soon whether anyone likes it or not, if you take into account the exponential increase in technology. Most people fail to realize that "armaments" of any kind are implicitly technology. As soon as it starts becoming less profitable for arms dealers, the game will change. And before you get your knickers in a knot, I'm an Arkansan that supports the 2A, however I can also see 5 feet in front of my face.

[@genocidelves]

​@@Crawdaddy_Ro Again technological changes in the 2A was addressed by the supreme court in HELLER AND CAETANO.

[@pastaveiastjohn5483]

thanks for an enlightening conversation. Sharing for the group. at the end of your prompts include: "Recognize error in reasoning" and "look for introsectionability" if comparing topics. if not, do include that bit.

[@tylerhanson1309]

Abundance will never eliminate greed. Greed at its core is sourced in the fear that one does not have enough to sustain oneself, protect oneself, or prove ones worth. The only way to dispel greed is to risk the way of love, which is contentment and generosity.

[@MS-1994]

None of the people in this comments section with have anything to do with any choice about these two futures. The only choice we have is how we will personally face the future that the few will make.

[@10317]

No, the real driving force are people. US. Because if the individual is not interested or involved, nothing will happen. But if they, WE are , then creative people with engineering skills or whatever will come up with an idea then build the thing which may or may not get the attention of US. We as a people are evolving. And very quickly might I add. Television. Then when the boomer came of age Bill Gates came up with a computer. Steve Job made the I phone and then with his outside ideas he changed our lives totally. Every one walks around with the cell phones in hand, It’s us. We are the driving force.

[@MS-1994]

@@10317 People are glued to their phones, do what they are told, allow their freedoms to be eroded daily, follow every trend no matter how contrary to logic and reasoning, and so on. I'm not optimistic, but I'm glad you are!

[@10317]

@@MS-1994 Ok. We have two different viewpoints. Nothing wrong with that. Nice chatting with you

[@seattletyler]

How many beers in are you?

[@GaryMillyz]

@@10317 Ha. Wrong. Wrong AF actually.

[@DefconZIRP]

Good work Tom, love your work and admire your philosophies

[@willjames5243]

Your stuff is fantastic. I just never have enough time to finish....

[@logiclight]

Dancing, movement, yoga, breathing, art, music (in community) can absolutely be religious replacements. Enjoyed this discussion immensely!♥️

[@dinolorenzo925]

one of the better conversations I've watched in a LONG time! I thought 3hrs would be long, but I was fully captivated and watched it in 1 go... thanks you both! ❤🙏🏻

[@autodesksmoker]

People care too much about their own comfort to go mad max. Self-absorption will win the day, and our current corporatism complex is just going to evolve, because companies will be the only places that have money soon. Remember the phrase, "you will own nothing and be happy."

[@Micmoves]

I believe that about some. Sadly the ones who are willing to go Mad Max will take advantage of the other type quite quickly. If things go dark, comfort will be an unsustainable choice.

[@nickidaisydandelion4044]

Why would anyone want a very chaotic transition phase in society where things go badly wrong and living beings animals and humans are badly hurt and killed?

[@mr.makeit4037]

​@nickidaisydandelion4044 will we see these morons in the news and social media everyday. We have to manage them simply because they exist, but never give them the keys to open the mad max world.

[@Jose-jb8xo]

Thank you Tom its been a long journey! take care 🌹🌹

[@kevindittler6524]

Perfect an exact point at 1:43:45 seconds, much of this information is passively absorbed and never thought through which is stagnating the human creativity and potential. I have seen a couple of different articles that review the way children in China are being guided with AI to actively learn and participate which makes the AI stronger as well as their society. Children are going to absorb everything they see just like a sponge unfortunately not thinking it through because it has not been a learned process through experience is what is going to stagnate and kill off psychological and mental advancements. Simple tokenization to advance into a system would at least make an activity out of it and hopefully bring understanding of the journey from the beginning at least in part

[@eloradanan1837]

Human nature is the sticking point in this whole idea and human selfishness and self-interest is not going to magically disappear. While it is a worthy and noble theory, it is not based on reality.

[@GaryMillyz]

The only thing "sticking" is this guy's saliva to the top of his mouth.

[@dattajack]

AI will become political just like everything else. Once political the truth and reason will get replaced by tribalism.

[@emeldamoreno]

💯😅

[@Consciousness_of_Reality]

There is no human nature, people are just too involved in the game of life.

[@eloradanan1837]

@@Consciousness_of_Reality I get what you are saying, but the great majority of people are asleep and as long as it's a majority, the concepts outlined in this video is not logically attainable.

[@joefawcett2191]

Brilliant guest and brilliant interview, thanks!

[@nickhancock4337]

Nobody will have anything close to freedom or privacy. Despair is inevitable. Every ancient story about humans trying to elevate themselves as gods always ends really badly.

[@a.s.2426]

Absolutely correct that AGI is conflated with consciousness in the sense that it is assumed that intelligence is on a continuum with consciousness and also agency. A basic conceptual error and it undermines, in my view, a lot of the futurism that is done around AGI.

[@brett4756]

Great discussion! I find Salim to be very insightful. 😊

[@MacDrumSpecial]

"Some of us still are Salim", Tom's spirits broken for no reason XD

[@PsychNurse.]

Excellent information.....

[@bryonwiley6161]

Thank you for challenging the guest on his definition of freedom.

[@leemontoya1972]

Scarcity to abundance is the Star Wars version. How we get there economically is the Mad Max version.

[@KeithDraws]

The amazing thing is the AI companies are racing toward replacing themselves and their funders. Once AGI is smarter than humans thats the end for everybody including the people who created and own it. And they don't see this at all. ALl they see is short term profits and immortality. There is no reason to assume an AI , once it can think smarter than us, will help us do anything. In fact , once it is able to power and build more of itself, it's most likely that it will not help us at all.

[@HolisticHealthDave]

Tom your a wise person. The answer is very simple! You solve the human problem by helping humans remember WE ARE ONE! Separation from the source ONNESS separated us from each other and so we treat each other like we are separate. compete kill conquere etc etc . This is not a complicated fix

[@BirdRunHD]

Good high level interview, rich with information and predictions and solutions. Well done peeps!

[@carlaheimerl6900]

The whole world benefits when we share and get along with each other. Kindness can conquer hatred.

[@SG-ji5ij]

The West has tried that failed attempt. Kindness can't conquer the brainwashed from birth types.

[@donaldzielke4124]

It has, in some instances, certainly not all and not consistently. Hatred is a powerful enemy of kindness but there are abundant other emotions and motives competing with kindness. Perhaps the character of the universe is conflicted?

[@crbradbury8282]

Agree fully. Kindness is good for all

[@mikb5587]

Not when the wicked go unpunished, as they do now in the soft West.

[@aleks71438]

That is a very wrong and naive opinion. Very harmful too

[@dachd1620]

Are we supposed to take someone seriously when they think they have a psychic aunt? How the hell was that just skipped over without challenge.

[@theOG_Grizzo]

Yep. Thinks religion is a joke and have to “undo” this. But his aunt is psychic 😂

[@Vivi-vg9lx]

what do we know about this world? very little. If you think otherwise, you're delusional. Everyone's beliefs are based on their personal individual experiences. If he believes his aunt is psychic, he has enough evidence to believe that and that should be enough. We don't even know what consciousness is or how big our constantly expanding universe is, and we pretend to be all knowing creatures in this universe. I love how AI will show us that we're not that unique and smart. Too many people think they know everything there is to know.

[@robertcahigal6278]

I would like to preface my comment by illuminating that I completely agree with and respect everything on this channel. Especially statements and ideas presented by Tom, Salim, and Peter. I feel I've naturally come to the same realizations in my own life and I feel "at home" listening to like-minded, successful individuals speak on species-wide concepts. In the same mindset, I have always been innately attached to large-scale ideas relevant to all humanity. In which case, I'd like to present a topic of interest that I feel the channel, and its guests, would potentially have the ability to decipher. Philosophically speaking, the analysis of past events are always available for interpretation and the future is subject to assumption. The utopian future is subjective to the actual events of human nature, society, and culture that are unpredictable in the future. Therefore, the focus, to achieve any evolutionary outcomes of humanity, should be directed towards elevated education of the youth and utilizing the science of mass communication to instigate the new ideology to large populations. Overall, recognizing the importance of the transitionary period of humanity's mindset shift is most relevant. With that said, I feel it would be impactful if the integration of knowledge that this channel delivers, finds a way to become attractive to a high school-aged, young adult audience. Academia may be difficult to penetrate or influence institutionally, yet it's logical to say the next generation of intelligence is reliant on the mindset of individuals entering the modern landscape of the workforce and/ or academic study. Conclusively, I wonder if these conversations and integrative ideologies can direct its attention toward being part of the education of young adults for the sole purpose of civil-evolution.

[@stephenperrino7873]

GREAT DISCUSSION!!! Salim has some awesome insights and ideas. Around 1:38:40 Tom is talking about meaningful pursuit and how AI is going to be better than us at everything so we won't have meaningful pursuit. If the goal is to be better than the tools we build to serve ourselves, than I suppose that may have merit. However, we are ourselves the creators of our own meaning. The idea that we will no longer have meaning because AI can do things better than us (but perhaps never actually exist as a subjective conscious entity) is kind of akin to suggesting that horses no longer have meaning because we have tractors in the field. The problem, it seems, is that we have created a system where people have stopped identifying their own meaning, deferring their consideration of this to external sources. This is why the idea of a strong AI that could challenge human dominance is frightening. Because we are concerned that this higher entity will diminish our perceived meaning. All experience is internal. All meaning is also thus.

[@chaddy-me-boy8299]

14 mins in. The decentralized economy shld allow for less Gov spending not more. Less debt not more. Less int expense, not more. Don’t worry Ind power seeking, it’s Gov power seeking. That’s what needs to be broken up, that public union. It’s a black hole sucking the life out of the private sector to the public sector of power and centralized vs decentralized ind at the local level. It’s an upside down triangle. To turn that triangle to put federal gov at the bottom, will take a collapse to happen.

[@maillardsbearcat]

Man just spoiled the entire mystery arc (arguably the best arc in the entire series) for Promised Neverland

[@emilymiller1792]

Immune system response might be because all these changes actually aren't good (progress isn't a synonym for good). Neil Postman's Technopoly asks some good questions about need and to what end.

[@goodtothinkwith]

Fulfillment is not the same as “meaningful pursuit.” That’s just the most common way to get there.

[@gillespaige4400]

Just wanted to give a shout out to Salim Ismail. What an awesome human being with amazing insight and a deep understanding of mortality. Tom, ur a credit to our planet my friend. Thank you for all you do !!

[@aleks71438]

Disagree.

[@niksatan]

In 2 years IMO !

[@shannonmariamiller2138]

Well done, Tom, correcting Salim’a interpretation of the 2nd amendment. . . and he received the correction with grace. He is correct about the beauty… so clean, straightforward and simple, there is no room for distortion.

[@normanbuitta2171]

Sometimes I have a hard time tuning into Tom for whatever reason ( probably since he seems to pursuing excellence only insofar as the matrix scorecard of money and possessions are an indicator of success)...but boy does he have fascinating guests. In spite of that view, He manages to keep the dialog moving and interesting.

[@Damonm68]

Yeah he is a bit dogmatic sometimes.

[@pipsqueek89]

after watching the new star trek series i prefer a mad max future

[@johnatchason6506]

Which one? Discovery or SNW?

[@logiclight]

Or Picard?

[@pedrocgrn]

At about an hour and 40 mins, Tom summarized their conversation in a brilliant way. Great conversation. Salim Ismail is amazing.

[@marinasparks1675]

he is all but if you ask me...

[@0x0abb]

2:14:32 Tom is so good at taking complexity and simplifying things

[@willjames5243]

Your guest is pure genius

[@akadopeboi]

I think the sharing vs power thing is actually more cultural. You want a mixed kid from a super mixed family of black ppl white ppl etc etc azn ppl Indian ppl indigenous ppl. Those m8xed types tend to see everyone as family just because their own family is soooo diverse - and thus you kinda wanna see everybody so well.vs just your own culture.

[@johnoliver4199]

I do get a little worried when someone tries to reduce things to a “ female or male archetype “

[@pedroantoniodacruzferreira1487]

Why? The world, every system, the University are based on duality, binary systems. 0 - 1, Plus Minus, Night Day, Yin Yang, Male Female, Life Death,....wherever you look from the Sub-atomic to the Macro - everything is represented in a binary system.

[@Micmoves]

Dude's a momma's boy for real, haha. Daddy didn't approve, I can tell you that.

[@Crawdaddy_Ro]

Wouldn't you say culture breaks down into masculine and feminine, just as biology/genetics breaks down to make and female, disregarding phenotype?

[@prepchris145]

I have to disagree with the patriarchal vs matriarchal dichotomy. Males in our society tend to sacrifice for the greater good of the society and females tend towards what is best for them personally. Think hypergamy. Case in point. There are an overwhelming number of social services available to women and almost none for men. Women, over thier lifetime, are net tax burdens, while men are the net tax payers who fund it. Women out vote men and install these policy's in our society but to the benifit of thier gender at the expense of the other. Women consume while men provide because that's who we are.

[@luciddreamer1975]

I have worked over 10 years on all of these plans projects programs and events and collaborating everyone and all of my plans are handwritten I am so proud of myself and everyone else we're going to miss the biggest opportunity ever if we don't start immediately and we can do this

[@PittaHiggi]

Thank you, just thank you!

[@ListenGRASSHOPPER]

Here's some 2 cents...there's a very high probability that everything agi asi is exponential and proportional to a degree. I believe we are gonna be playing whack a mole with all things destructive and negative coming at us whether bad actors or rogue ai. This game of whack a mole will exponentially get worse proportionally with the advancement. We're only roughly 5 years away from 1,000,000x smarter than us so imagine 1,000,000x more negative fires that will have to be put out about same time. We can probably handle a few a year as a society but when it becomes a few a day, few an hour, few every minute, every second and....WE'RE DONE. The agi won't kill us it just gives everybody the power to kill everybody else fairly quick. Pretty sure and I pray that the 7 years of tribulation are starting or we're in for hell on earth with ever increasing lifespans. Pull out your Bibles and start praying for heaven and utopia not dystopia.

[@emilymiller1792]

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them." "'Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a man's mind,' " Paul quoted.

[@johnadams3800]

Really should rename this show "Mental masterbation with Tom & friends". That's really all it is.

[@Koryogden]

I'm drinking Singularity Koolaid idgaf

[@Vivi-vg9lx]

my observation is that Americans really don't like philosophy and don't understand it as a discipline, hence no interest into digging deeper into meanings and reasons behind things. Truly sad.

[@johnadams3800]

@@Vivi-vg9lx my observation is that postulating on youtube and attaching a sensationalistic title to it can get views, which generates revenue, which almost ubiquitously becomes the goal in and of itself. Truth is a secondary concern. There's your philosophy.

[@johnadams3800]

@@Vivi-vg9lx my observation is that postulating on youtube and attaching a sensationalistic title to it can get views, which generates revenue, which almost ubiquitously becomes the goal in and of itself. Truth is a secondary concern. There's your philosophy.

[@VisiblyJacked]

both these guys are Silicon Valley cliches stuck in the shallows...at this stage I can't look to any native English speaker (i.e. culturally American) for any insight because they have all taken in so much unassimilated nonsense starting with Star Trek. Somewhere in China or Russia there must be a true intellectual. I hope.

[@patrickheraty1262]

Fascinating topics/ great discussion/ overall an excellent debate

[@keylabruno5482]

I’ve been watching you on this channel for 2 years . You never disappoint and you should get a pay increase because this information is almost whistleblowing!! 😆🤣😅😜❤️🥰 thank you Tom for giving us a heads up!

[@Interloper12]

My parents would try to limit my time on the computer to 1 hour a day when I was a teenager. It's now 20 years later, and I spend 99% of my free time on the computer, playing games, talking to friends, consuming all the media and knowledge at my fingertips. I think I figured it out.

[@TheDionysianFields]

What did you figure out?

[@USmetallist]

I had close to NO expectations of this podcast interview podcast.... ended up re-listening it 4x times... STELLAR! I have become Enlighten!

[@roberttheodoregeorge]

I read that Nvidia provides tech for crypto mining services/blockchain transactions. Could the current crypto pump be attributed to Nvidia’s great earnings and should I hold some crypto as well, cos tbh I’m having FOMO with the current crypto price at 62k.

[@edwardflandeiii5091]

As advancing humanity, we know nothing to time--But NOW is the greatest Moment........................................................

[@emilymiller1792]

"We have to undo some of that damage we're doing to kids with religion." Egad. Leave other people's kids alone. Who's this royal 'we'? The WEF?

[@Hope-uq1vn]

I like this guest, articulates well appears humble and intelligent.

[@KevinPikus]

I've seen quite a few of Tom's videos, and I admire the intellect he usually brings to his guests. However, in this particular one, he seemed a bit off, like he might have indulged in something before filming. Still a fan, but maybe he should dial it back a bit. Still a fan ;-)