Life of Early Japanese Women (So Much Cheating...) | History of Japan 38

Life of upper class women in the Japanese Heian court. Why did they stay indoors all the time, staring at the wall? How much cheating was going on?
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[@Linfamy]

Thank you to Tercero for doing the research for this video

[@hellokitty11432]

Thank you Tercero!

[@Linfamy]

Indeed :)

[@Dracopol]

Be sure to double-check on Tercero's research. A lot of people lie about sex, and a lot of anthropologists soak up those lies. Giddy Samoan teen girls told lots of lies to Margaret Mead, told her they had had many lovers, and she wrote that homosexualiy (lesbian) and adultery were no big deal. When Samoan students finally made it to Columbia University, they were shocked at the stories told. Homosexuality was frowned upon in Samoa as in elsewhere, and adultery carried a 2-year prison sentence.

[@Dracopol]

...so, I dunno man, you may bore and lose viewers if you get into abstruse pastimes like sex. Better to cover geopolitical stuff like the conquest of Northern Japan and why it has a different number of AC cycles per second than Southern Japan.

[@revolutionarycomrade]

Awesome vid, thanks Tercero!

[@BookishCat]

“Servant, tell the man i want to cheat with him.” “Ok, miss.”

[@withhopewellcope1866]

😂 😂 😂

[@JellyOnAPancakeAyyyy]

Lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao

[@rudhra5957]

Rwooooooossshhh

[@Kirukilmao]

@@rudhra5957 are you saying r/whoosh?

[@rudhra5957]

@@Kirukilmao Look, you completed me

[@n3gi_]

Ancient Japan: Sex, Sex, Sex..... Modern Japan: We don't do that here...........

[@Vysair]

Ancient Japan: Woman are sex doll Modern Japan: 2D wAmEn Is BeTtEr

[@zjoh1560]

Anonymous Modern Japan: We don’t do that here... ...we do it in our animus!

[@Light-jo9lp]

Modern japan :iku iku

[@khersi.6261]

Ha ha...r u perverted ?

[@rcksnxc361]

Anonymous Also Modern Japan: Love Hotels

[@marylove5170]

That's why when they fell in love, they get obsessed to the point that if that person died, they would rather die as well. Because in that extremely boring life, there was someone that gave them different kind of happiness.

[@abdullahbinjahed6900]

sounds pretty romantic to me tbh

[@tink6225]

@@abdullahbinjahed6900 word

[@abdullahbinjahed6900]

@Thomas Widding maybe to current generation ... not to me

[@Leo-yv6hl]

@@abdullahbinjahed6900 *to mentally sane people

[@Manas-co8wl]

@@florianflo9048 "Unhealthy" maybe. Abusive? Where?

[@brrman4089]

American people: Hey what do you do on your daily routine? Japanese heians: Oh staring at the air outside the balcony and then cheat on my husband

[@kidmoneymaker1]

American people is no better

[@LeafyPeach]

@@kidmoneymaker1he's joking obviously, all people were horrible in those days.

[@mfhouston3002]

@@kidmoneymaker1 americans have standards you know 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kidmoneymaker1]

@@mfhouston3002 MF DOOM the villain

[@toddstaples7019]

The tv is the great change to the old ways if you think about it .

[@Mavish11]

"Are you a boob or butt guy?" "Yea I'm more of a sleeve guy."

[@Linfamy]

🤣

[@guessmyname1246]

So many god dam sleeves

[@Jobe-13]

Sergio Perez 😂

[@HmmYesInteresting...]

Sleeve fetish

[@Ernest_XX]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[@Nikki-xb7yv]

“Girls who remained virgin for too long were possessed by spirits” Well I must be the Devil himself in that case *laughs in asexual*

[@blackpinkslave9969]

No worries someone special is out there for you 👍

[@Nikki-xb7yv]

Blackpink Slave thanx

[@annarchy200]

Titania, theCONQUERER well how old for you cause now most people wait to be 30 to have children

[@roaeden559]

Lol right

[@MrThistleMilk]

@@annarchy200 You can end your virginity without having children you know.

[@hyperealisticglass]

Nice now I can rephrase my quarantine life as “simulating Heian high class women”. Feels much better.

[@arjyabirhazra1135]

So you stare at a wall and cheat on your partner. Got it

[@bay413]

Pretty accurate tho

[@aradhyachoudhury3602]

@@arjyabirhazra1135 🤣...to the point.

[@justsomeguywithascarf8809]

"As expected from the country that created hentai"

[@Lili-cc7pz]

One fact that’s inaccurate - it wasn’t women never learned chinese, they were forbidden to use chinese in writings, so they created their own writing: hiragana

[@octapusxft]

When they say Chinese writing do they mean the Kanji?

[@Lili-cc7pz]

octapusxft yes. Kanji (漢字) literally means “word of the Han” Han is the majority Chinese ethnicity. In Chinese it is pronounced “Han zi”

[@Yokitomodati]

Writing kanji wasn't forbidden but if women wrote in kanji, she was possibly got reputation like "She doesn't know her limit. She should."

[@andalouchien]

He did say in the video that they probably knew Chinese, just had to pretend they didn't

[@phantomtq]

ohhh

[@boeuf-in9oe]

Sounds like paradise for an introvert. Just read and write and paint all day in your room.

[@theeasternmongoose]

As an introvert I agree

[@Nimish204]

As an introvert, I had go mad in a week. I need social interaction, just not too much

[@guilhermeferrao5968]

@@Nimish204 I think that if quarantine is teaching me something about my "introvertedness" it's that it has its limits. I miss being frustrated at friends inviting me to hang out sessions I can't really stand, just to end up going for fear of sounding rude

[@Katsunai]

It's not like your homes where you have phones, games and internet for various types of recreation.

[@muin_]

reading and writing kinda boring but if i had all the art stuff i need would enjoy it

[@justsomeotherguywithamusta9949]

"If she leaves for another, there is always her mother." - Sun Tzu.

[@appleslover]

-Monk, probably

[@frooty9508]

Opens Casket*

[@randomlad1157]

"What would you do in her situation?" "Draw the very 1st anime fanart alive"

[@nobunaga4720]

Certified hood classic..

[@V1_Ultrakrill]

*"I'll just sleep all day"*

[@ajjaudian6390]

@@ayyappanchithambaram4575 and women if you're a boy :D

[@markallieu7097]

Just like me but I'm sleeping alone, help

[@Eromanga_Sensei]

It's a joke btw..

[@satrn5496]

@@Eromanga_Sensei really?

[@tamchiheena9525]

Me too

[@nippon2003]

“You’re stuck at home” Sounds familiar to me.

[@yosephkamran1129]

this comment aged very well lmfao

[@epicgamer-ny4fj]

Is this Is this a homestuck reference

[@noxious9832]

#2020

[@afrogonaleaf]

you have no idea

[@thewildcardperson]

Poor bastards didnt know

[@kurthasedd7923]

That sounded like a terrible life until I realized 95% of people I know check off most of those boxes and they aren't even restricted. They do nothing, stay at home all day, they go to work but it's not like they interact with a whole lot of people where they work, they don't talk much etc. Their lives consist of essentially 2 spaces they will go back and forth from. Cheatings gross, I never got that and I never understood people who will cheat, go home, then sleep with their partners, dick move

[@samuelmatheson9655]

They have the Internet

[@dancingdohl]

Man, I had to live this life for a very short time. Moved back to my parents country and to avoid being kidnapped I was basically locked in the upper floor of the house when my dad was out. There were a few rooms and a huge outdoor lanai with a peacock so I wasn't like stuck in a tiny room. Two of the ladies that worked in the house would bring me food and collect and drop off my laundry... No internet or television and just a case full of books that I burned through immediately. Occasionally I would be able to have one of the ladies walk me to an Internet cafe like once a week for like 30 min. 🥲 It was a very empty and strange type of depression.

[@Linfamy]

What the heck, where were you?

[@dancingdohl]

@@Linfamy Haiti in the early 2000's. Most people just see the media pics of the extremely impoverished unfortunately. For those who have political standing, international money or are high ranked religious leaders life can be quite comfortable or even extravagant. If I wasn't in the main house in the city generally I got a little more freedom but couldn't be alone and people couldn't just come up and talk to me. A random guy snuck onto the property while I was swimming at the beach once and just stared at me from the pier... the image of him getting dragged away is still burned in my mind 😨 Lmao, sorry for the long story 😅

[@Linfamy]

@@dancingdohl wow, that's quite an experience!

[@Candyy248]

Avoid being kidnapped?

[@dancingdohl]

@@Candyy248 for ransom money. I know in other countries they kidnap women and children to be trafficked

[@yukariko487]

I’d make my servants turn my writings into live-action

[@oaktharas]

Yuka Riko I agree.. they seem to lack creativity

[@yogurLAPIZ]

@@oaktharas me too, or you can always let you imagination run wild and make some yaoi or Yuri. I mean anyways there is nothing more to do. 7(0_0)

[@Linfamy]

This is an amazing idea 🤣

[@gerloke914]

This is actually a thing that was possible

[@shadowwriter329]

even more if they made a love scene. they want to see how it looks before they tried it out with their next bed warmer.

[@nemeceka]

This is why embroidery and art became so popular. Poetry, flower arrangement, dance, song, and musical instruments. All things to pass the time.

[@plebthepebble3877]

mhm

[@willowtdog6449]

True for the wealthy people in most places. Especially prior to the printing press.

[@murimurimrui]

Along with tasting all the sausages. WWWWW

[@SILOPshuvambanerjee]

It explains a lot

[@hermystic_ways]

This is my first video here. Your channel is fascinating Thank you tisiro

[@deepanjalidas5800]

thank you Tercero, as always your contents are interesting.

[@Pikagirl541]

No socializing, no housework, no taking care of the kids, and privacy at all times? I'd paint if I had the supplies, probably write some plays, daydream a lot, and occasionally chat with a female servent about how the kids are doing. Not an ideal life, but not a bad one for the time period.

[@jondan111]

Xz, 7,u

[@92RB20Monster]

Correct

[@khadijahaidar4892]

Why my ideal life is exactly that ??

[@katiehubble7544]

You would have no will to live lol

[@HattieMcDanielonaMoon]

H0W DARE YOU CHAT WITH A SERVANT

[@DecimusYna]

*The Legend of the First Fanfiction Writer*

[@akstefan4712]

Being an introvert myself who hates socializing, this lifestyle sounds pretty cool to me😌

[@Danna-ek5hq]

I'm an introvert too but I got specific limits

[@Candyy248]

Highly doubt it v:

[@Len..K]

When you've been recommended the mabiki video and now you wanna write a story about it and you're obsessed with Japan and this channel-

[@SumDumGai5]

They played PlayStation all day.

[@Linfamy]

PlayStation *was* made in Japan after all.

[@Linfamy]

@FantomOmega 😅

[@fawadahmed9370]

Saga

[@niqqanamakekchuha5144]

@FantomOmega it is called a *JOYstick* after all :))

[@Linfamy]

@Long Jock love it

[@ObliviousBeet]

... I'd tell my husband every boring detail of every boring day. So we can be miserable together. Sharing is caring. Edit: Mostly so I can see who snaps first.

[@Linfamy]

Sharing misery until one person kills the other, it's what marriage is all about.

[@xhshsxbzhz341]

@@Linfamy that's dark

[@Linfamy]

A bit much? :p

[@ObliviousBeet]

And yet, it had me laughing. (I should, probably, maybe be ashamed? Nah. Laughs are always great.) My honest thoughts were along the lines of, " :'D Awww, yes. If you can get along that well. To the point you're not afraid to drive each other crazy enough to want to kill one another: it's a great relationship."

[@just_l846]

*Communist confirmed* *welcome to the soviet union* * *plays USSR athem*

[@holynightwingfan4510]

Just a tiny correction: though there are indeed derogatory parts of suttas about women (which researchers and monks consider later additions and therefore not trustworthy) it's not that a woman has to be reborn as a man to become enlightened, she still can and there ares some suttas that show some examples of enlightened women teaching lessons to men, but she couldn't become a Buda. A Buda is someone who has reached enlightenment without having any contact with the teachings through someone else, but he is still an enlightened being, who we call as "arahants". Arahants are enlightened beings, they have reached the peak of the practice as a buddhist; that's why a Buddha is also called an "arahant" in the suttas. Now, both have the same level of enlightenment; the only difference between them is that a Buda becomes the leader of the Sangha. And because of that you can see why in a single sutta some chauvinist monks made that rule of women having to be reborn as a man to become a Buda: becoming one would mean controlling the whole buddhist community, which would certainly be loads of power for a female (and that's why there is not an actual global leader in buddhism like the Pope: because there is no Buda yet). And when I mean 1 sutta, is indeed 1 (which makes even more suspicious) considering there are tons of them out there; some say around 38.000 even. Therefore both men and women can reach enlightenment and Nibbana, the ultimate objective of a buddhist. And in the case of a Buddha in my opinion, of course she can be a female. Even Dalai Lama said if he could, he would certainly be reborn as a female.

[@carrot7868]

Thanks for the info!

[@chayandas1521]

Yeah, But goddess Tara refused to be born as a male and was the first enlightened women.

[@khadeejahassen]

I'm not Buddhist but many leaders would change the narratives or scriptures to fit their mysogynistic veiws they were mostly in power for themselves not the religion

[@Multi2794]

awesome video 😊

[@felipe21279]

So, bored upper-class women are the precursors of all the crazy stuff you see at fanfiction websites? Seems logical.

[@morganrobinson8042]

Female StarTrek fanfiction writers reinvented male/male slash fiction with Kirk and Spock before the internet even existed. It is literally the same impulse from the same boredom to the same end. There's nothing new under the sun.

[@eubabemc5295]

"Tale of Genji" (Genji Monogatari) is allegedly the first Japanese novel, written by lady-in-waiting Murasaki Shikibu in the early years of the 11th century. It's a good read, following the life of a Japanese prince who could never pass up a sexual experience. This video explains a lot about why Lady Murasaki was inspired to take up brush and write what is a very long novel. Thank you, Linfamy!

[@Linfamy]

😁👍

[@eubabemc5295]

@Your Fickled Woman LOL! Nothing perverse about it. Genji just liked to do it. The work is considered the first Japanese novel, just as Tom Jones is considered the first English novel. The themes of both novels are so similar ... I could get philosophical here, so I won't.

[@guessmyname1246]

Oh yeah! I remember reading that for middle school.

[@poissony]

Don’t forget the Pillow Book, written by Murasaki’s rival/fellow lady-in-waiting Sei Shonagon

[@sandrahatherley2184]

The Tale of Genji also tells how women as they got older were more and more bored because fewer men came to visit them. At some point in their life they could either throw themselves in the sea or go to a monastery. Lower class woman could work and raise their children. It describes the upper class women's life perfectly that the video talks about.

[@smiththeinspiringanimator7042]

Awesome and cool! :)

[@leandromendoza5835]

Thank you tercero! Very cool

[@ominusomega7803]

There was also the fact that one of the world's first fiction novelist was a female aristocrat by the name of Murasaki Shikibu, who wrote Genji Monogatari.

[@Linfamy]

Ah yes, the first fiction writer that we know of, writing the first work of fiction.

[@Chraan]

What about the Bible though?

[@ominusomega7803]

@@Chraan I'm not sure the Bible is considered as a novel. What I meant is that Murasaki Shikibu is widely accepted as the first Fiction Novelist.

[@Chraan]

@Maulana Iskandar Who decides that, I consider the Bible a good Fantasy book, why shouldn't I be able to?

[@endless_tragedy7662]

That burn tho

[@WinterFogFilms]

Tbh, spending hours planning my outfits, taking care of my hair, writing anything I wanted, and having tons of sex seems.... yeah, about exactly what I'd do if I couldn't leave the house or talk to anyone

[@Slinkasoarus]

I couldn’t agree more.

[@morgiewthelord8648]

You’re old, aren’t you?

[@WinterFogFilms]

@@morgiewthelord8648 I'M 22 lmaoooo

[@loliprison7759]

@@WinterFogFilms sure granny, please take a seat

[@WinterFogFilms]

@@loliprison7759 ah fuck, I've been found out. Woulda gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids.

[@TheUntypicalGerman]

After watching this video I engaged in sharing. Lots and lots of sharing.

[@Linfamy]

;)

[@jotarokujo312]

Bruh I love this channel

[@Linfamy]

Woohoo

[@user-cr3pn7rk2v]

The funny thing is that Japan is still very casual about cheating. That part of Confucianism never really sank in

[@metabolismofindominable8219]

There is nothing casual about cuckery.

[@shefk7325]

Just because it's common in porn doesn't make it so irl

[@user-cr3pn7rk2v]

@@shefk7325 I lived in Japan. Its real. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3_WlIZ6hNiimqc

[@jonnyOysters]

@@shefk7325 have you seen interviews online? The attitude towards adultery is quite different to the west. I think men cheating was seen as a bit more acceptable. But a lot of women said they'd forgive. Where as I feel in the West cheating is taken alot more seriously.

[@jonnyOysters]

It's even more accepted than I thought. Check this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e3_WlIZ6hNiimqc

[@obits3]

In most cultures, the first born son is given priority because he was the only male child that a man could be relatively certain about. The idea of the “honeymoon” period of a marriage was to get your virgin wife pregnant as fast as possible before she could even think about straying. Heck, in the Bible, men were even given a year off military service to “make their wives happy” and insure their lineage.

[@Linfamy]

Neat! Didn't know that about the honeymoon

[@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia]

Tom Forge that’s because they had many wives to please

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Not generally true, as polygamy was not practiced in the Kingdom of Israel. (concubines were definitely a thing, but don't count because not married)

[@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia]

Io well I’m certain segments. Still some were practicing though the faith said one man for one woman etc in Jewish faith

[@Jupiter__001_]

@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia Yup, and in fact some ancient Israelites even practiced paganism, which resulted in several periods of conflict as the central government attempted to restore the nation to their original religion and destroy folk religion.

[@wasifabul2545]

I’d write enough poems to fill a room and read books without interruption and nap a lot and if I get bored talk to a maid and finally finish writing my first book with I am writing using a pen not a computer and I’d live a very happy life so practical speaking heaven

[@anonymouscausewhynot]

Thank you, Tercero!

[@blueram3063]

If i was like these women i would read a lot of books, learn to sing, to dance, to play some sort of instrument, learn astronomy and stare at the sky. Also i could learn more math and sciense. Also sewing....more hobies....painting.....aaaa....Redecorating the house a hundred times....learn woodcarving.....learn how to do a back flip, cardio workout routines...I could pretend to be a hairdresser and do the hair of my servents, put make up on them. I would defenetly want one friend-servant. And yes in the long run write poems and do theatre plays with the servants.

[@blueram3063]

Oh and leave the window open with the lights on so moths can enter....Start insect colection.

[@Linfamy]

You've put a lot of thought into this 👍

[@SmoothOthello]

Sounds like a interesting life, they simply didn't have your imagination:D

[@davidgumazon]

@@SmoothOthello nah, you get bored eventually just like if still vanilla Minecraft and never use mods.

[@unlacedshoe3696]

Blue Ram honestly I would just think about things

[@Laura-Yu]

I’m glad that the KZbin algorithm is doing at least something right by recommending me this video😂

[@Linfamy]

Woohoo, here's to KZbin's algorithm occasionally working 🥂

[@aheroforfun6030]

hi. .😍😍😍

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

Yes this was a recommendation and I can say thank you KZbin.

[@Linfamy]

@Carmelo Pappalardo yay!

[@RainingSaturn]

@Profit Glutton probably not.

[@christins.1481]

I'm an introvert born in '83 and lived out in the country. So I grew up with no internet and no one around except family and was homeschooled. I wrote and drew quite a bit.

[@intomyself000]

Thank you Tercero!!

[@sarahwanders1459]

"their experience of social interaction was like my interactions with sex. Rarely and when it did. It was over to quickly" hardcore relatable 🤣😭😂💔

[@Linfamy]

😅

[@sarahwanders1459]

Fixed it ಥ‿ಥ;;; still same tho ngl

[@GameLover45408]

@@Linfamy jokes on you, I have no sexual interaction

[@crunch15]

From what I know as a Japanese person, men of the heian ages got to marry many girls. Like that was publicly normal. Some had like legit fifteen or something I think. As far as I know, the wives basically had this ranking where the first person who married to the man was the official first wife, then the second wife, third wife, and so on. The earlier you were married, the more power you get. Now wives at that age had a huge rivalry, which was who can make the man come to them at night and who’s child will be man’s successor. Men who had many wives could get to choose who they wanted to sleep with, and could change each night. All wives tried to have more personality, more beauty, more wealth to get their husbands to come to them. This is another way how the girl’s family ties in. If you’re a girl from a wealthy family, they may send you gifts, more beautiful clothing (btw purple was the best color I think), that kind of things. Also, when the wife gets a child, they hoped it was a boy: a boy may be the husband’s successor. So even if you were the first wife if you only had girls and the second wife gave birth to a guy the second wife’s boy will be successor. But, if you were married to the man last but you were his favorite wife, there was a chance your son could become successor or the right hand man. Women communicated to others through poems. This was a huge thing back then, because your basically writing a love letter to someone you never met. The guy is always the first to write a letter to the girl, and the girl will have to reply with wit. Either accepting the flattery and flirting back or rejecting the guy, the girl had to think cleverly, have her way with words, and had to have perfect hand writing. The type of paper they wrote the poem on was also another thing the guys looked at - good paper, wealthy, perhaps cares about you. Family money was used like this for girls. Also, because women were supposed to always be behind the curtain, the relationships between women were strong strong bonds. Twenty maids, a person who gave you their milk when you were a baby (not your mother), your tutor, etc will be with you most of the time, just chatting. The two most famous books written in this era is called the makuranosoushi and genjimonogatari, both written by tutors of a wealthy woman who both married the same guy. The two tutors were also said to be rivals of their own. Anyway, the first one is a bunch of small essays about everyday life in the castle and it’s hilarious. For a young girl, becoming a maid or tutor or playmate for a wealthy girl gave you dreams. You came to the city, have freedom but still be kind of part of a wealthy family. Some say the maids once took home a hot guy and hid him in a casket since it was supposed to be all girls and wanted to chat and have some fun, but the guy was caught and thrown out of the huge home. Enough rambling lol hope these weird info help in any way. I can give more if anyone wants some! Also pls tell me if some of my info is wrong, most of this is memory based from my history classes in the last three years and what my mother taught me

[@Linfamy]

Love it. Thanks for writing such a long post full of info!

[@crunch15]

Linfamy thx!!!!! Ok I have another fact: Women could get outside of their house, but had to stay hidden within their carriage where they had another five or so maids. The curtain used for the carriage, as well as the curtains used at home so to not meet a man face to face, was called a misu and pretty beneficial for the women. From one side - women side - they could see the other side through the cracks of the curtain, but the men on the other side couldn’t see the inside by how the misu was made.

[@explorermike19]

In many cultures of the past including Japan and still in some cultures today, a man could have as many "wives" or concubines as he could afford.

[@gehtdichnichtsan2418]

@@explorermike19 Its funny how many comments hate on women for this "cheating" while completely ignoring the fact, that she was probably underage when married off and number 15 on the line. But sure "hurr durr typical evil woman".

[@flipkiller8521]

Slight correction: Sei Shonagon and Murasaki Shikibu served different ladies (Empress Sadako and Akiko) who were competing for the title of Empress Consort. Their rivalry was intense with Sei Shonagon writing disparaging remarks about Murasaki Shikibu's late husband and Murasaki Shikibu's hilarious but scathing remark about Sei Shonagon's writing (Murasaki Shikibu had the last laugh. Akiko became Empress Consort) Plus Murasaki Shikibu's writings about Minister Michinaga (Father of Akilo looks like a complaint at first but deeper readings reveals them to be her boasts about the most powerful man of Heian-era Japan simping for her.

[@isforme2789]

Finaly a life i would fit in. Reading painting and staring out the window. Thanks Tercero for your research 😁

[@TGo-n-Roscoe]

Dude you are absolutely hysterical.

[@Nakura-dj8mg]

4:26 Women confirmed to be the first manga writers

[@summersys]

What would you do if you were extremely bored, very wealthy, and repressed af.

[@Linfamy]

🤣

[@NC-hu3ti]

Let me ask my Saudi friends

[@Lala-fd6cf]

kiwirk c well..you know women are treated as slaves there, they can't do a simple thing as traveling outside the country without their husband permission..they wouldn't even take her word if she went to the airport, she is a property of her husband, and if he says no then she can't do anything but accept it

[@NC-hu3ti]

@@Lala-fd6cf yeah i'm aware of that, which why I made the original comment. Having said that, it's a bit of a joke and we shouldn't assume every woman belonging to a specific society to be repressed, same way I don't think every western woman is "liberated".

[@checkmattee222]

I would make a run for it, and just live a poor life. At least I would have freedom to do whatever the heck I want to.

[@jonquilgemstone]

Me, the only person I know who enjoyed lockdowns and loves writing: I see this as an absolute win.

[@cherylmaden5989]

Thanks tercero!😁

[@justicewarrior9187]

So you dedicate 10 seconds of the FREAKING VIDEO to the actual cheating part?? CLICK BAIT!!!

[@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851]

Justice Warrior virgin.

[@curiouswafi]

BEGONE YE EVIL SPIRIT!

[@TsunaXZ]

R.I.P my 8 mins and 4 seconds

[@juicebox2757]

Excommunication

[@lulu-vp2yc]

@@justicewarrior9187 i feel like you dont get to communicate with women a lot lmao

[@morningcoffee2471]

I just need books, do I won’t mind the lifestyle. My only issue would be not being able to choose the man that I want.

[@withhopewellcope1866]

Same here. I would love this king of life style. As long there is books. I am happy anywhere.

[@Introvertsan]

I wouldn't mind, I have my resources, get to stay home, write, read, etc

[@casagrande__2526]

I mean bruh, this was b4 the press so books were rare and youd only have japanese books cuz they dont like foreigners so you will only have whats seen as acceotable for young women to read aka boring shit. I doubt paper was even made of thress at the time so youd be barely able to write too unless ur family is part of the top money makers, literal limbo life style, i dont wish that for anyone ngl

[@morningcoffee2471]

@@casagrande__2526 I believe that in whatever era, there's always a behind-the-door deals and black markets...

[@muin_]

you guys are boring books make it more boring i would be careless if i dont have a man or not not trying to be rude just saying

[@fsp394]

Thank you Tercero!

[@richyboi2664]

"the fujiwara clan famously married their daughters..." this is just stuck in my head now. thanks.

[@caseyayeng3538]

omg. this one again.

[@nosauce338]

Takumi😳

[@obicodanvincent2051]

Hehe boi

[@betterthanyou2881]

@Mochi Mocha chika is the most underatted charcter and is best girl for me also i kanda wish they gave her an ark like they did for ishigami

[@deppresedemoji5019]

@Mochi Mocha well shes gonna marry her brother or uncle :)

[@octapusxft]

Wow that was a really weird life to live.I bet the noble ladies had to deal with some crippling depression from being locked up like that.I can see where the term "caged bird" that is used in anime often comes from.

[@MrMaike3009]

I can relate. Not to the rich part. The caged part. My mother is obessed with not letting me be independent and always keeping an eye on me. I'm 22 married and have a kid and still the months when I go stay with her I'm reduced to basically house imprisonment . Very nice and well fed imprisonment with unlimited WiFi but still. She will check up on me 3 or more times during the night , if I go out it's only if she's with me and she feels like it , and only to places she wants to go. I can't do anything , which to some people will probs sound like haven but let me tell you after a while it gets old having to ask permission to do basically any and everything . The no contact with the outside would thing also sucks balls. Man am I glad for the internet if not I really would have ZERO contact for months and months at a time.

[@Linfamy]

Wow! That sounds terrible. I don't know your situation, so why do you need to go stay with her? Have you sat her down and talked about it?

[@jok1626]

may khaing you just described my exact same situation. I’m 20 now and my mother is still the same towards me, not letting me do anything or talk to anyone. Even though I’m grateful for all I’ve been given in life I couldn’t help but see my beautiful childhood home as a “cage.”

[@MrMaike3009]

@@Linfamy you don't sit down and talk with an Asian mom dude. Espically not a crazy one like mine. The first thing she will do is call me crazy , then say I'm acting stupid again,how I never think before doing things , don't waste her time etc etc and then she's going to say all sorts of unpleasant things to start a fight. It's been like this since I was a wee lil thing , I don't think she even realize half the shit she sprout out of habit these days As for why I need to stay with her when my kid was born she didn't want people back home in my country to know I got married and had a kid but our main family have ties with the people in the government system ( one used to work in the system until they retired at old age with a high position ) . Once I go register all the rest of the family would have found out via those connections so to prevent that she forced me to make my baby take her father's citizenship. Which is cool and all BUT it basically created a situation where the baby and I cannot stay together in any same country without applying for a visa every month and paying heavy fees. Fees I can't afford to pay since I sure as hell ain't rich . She can't stay with her dad either because he is in the army 24/7 in Singapore ( he's a PR) me as the main and only care giver cannot stay with the baby unless we keep hopping countries back and forth - staying at Burma house two months then going to Singapore for two months ..repeat cycle. Until we can apply for a more permanent solution we are stuck with this expensive and seriously annoying situation , all because our mother was paranoid about what judgemental people would say. Those same people literally could not give less of a fuck about us even if we are from the same family since we are less well to do than them and some even actively plots against us. Basically I got caught in the middle of the older generation's plotting and scheming eachother .

[@Linfamy]

@Jo K yikes, I hear ya, I grew up in an Asian household too. The Americans have it right, kids should move out as soon as possible.

[@agastyapatidar9430]

u already know lets get strait to it

[@btwimmax]

THx TERCERO YOU ARE SOOO EPIC

[@dangduy9727]

So that's where Genji no Monogatari, a beast of super lengthy story about a guy and his love affair, was born. From bored women who had too much time

[@Linfamy]

🤣 but thank you to Heian women for writing

[@meetaverma8372]

Huh! A fanboi of murasaki shikibu exists, rare..

[@darnit1944]

MADA MADA

[@rambo32404]

Hmmmmmmmm i see u are a man of culture as well

[@Rickuo]

Genji no Monogatari was the Shades of Grey from Japan back then it seems.

[@karenagbayani1816]

I'm Japanese, and so glad I wasn't living during that time, rich or poor!

[@nhatho1723]

To be fair, most times in history sucked compared to now. Rich or poor.

[@ileana2901]

true but the art is pretty pog

[@oldrat1252]

Same

[@SamLeroSberg]

you can get rich from poop man

[@SamLeroSberg]

@@ileana2901 ahem, we have hentai now :troll:

[@kamanama3671]

thank you Tercero!

[@yourleftacrylicpinkynail7270]

Thank you Tercero.

[@Faze-2]

This is one of those channels that you know of going to blow up but can't figure out why it already hasn't. Keep up the good work. Eventually the KZbin algorithm will get this channel out there more.

[@Linfamy]

Haha thank you brother ❤

[@Linfamy]

Maybe it's because of Michael's comment 😮

[@Linfamy]

🤣

[@Firstname137]

Hmm. I happened to find this channel by pure accident, but yes. I agree, I don't know why this channel hasn't blown up yet, but it certainly will. I hope that when it does he doesn't forget us little people! 😔 #remembermesenpai

[@smeminem1258]

Nobody: Early japanese women:i am become cheater,commiter of adultery

[@ejhc9628]

Rules of Nature!!

[@punished7030]

gasp how scandalous

[@GuitmitreFabulous]

@Doramina Kyuu we all must chill!!!!!!!

[@lolanya00]

@Doramina Kyuu literally nobody asked.

[@TheJerbol]

You got me with the morse code poking lol

[@MR-uk7iy]

absolute gold

[@PradeepKari]

This guy just compared us all to early Japanese women. *Naisu jobbaru.*

[@Linfamy]

:p

[@drabb5133]

Man your Segway is on point speaking of point don't forget to PRESS the like button ✅

[@0istheanti-infinityco226]

All that I do is space out and think anyway. Imagination is an escape but at the same time, listening to what is happening around me can be both informative and amusing. I enjoy watching the world pass by as well as reflecting on my own thoughts and experiences. These wealthy women were so private and privileged, I guess they were quite active thinkers. I will have: Listened Learned Imagined Reflected Observed Applied support Spread gossip

[@lisaadora1507]

Japanese people or Japan changed drastically after the war . I'm amazed by their advancement and politeness. I fully respect them. I hope I could visit Japan in the future . (I hope my English isn't too bad)

[@zoegoldgideon1971]

No it’s not :)

[@samanthawhite2801]

Dont go to Japan thinking that their culture is perfect because its not. No culture is ever perfect and without problems.

[@alexanderguerrero1395]

This is talking about the Heian period, which was a LONG time ago, several more periods happened before WW2, in which things where not like in this video.

[@daland4920]

The cheating part didn't change at all.

[@user-ko1hi1fy9z]

@@daland4920 Never did, in any culture.

[@Linfamy]

What I learned from this comment section: NTR. Jeez, you guys 😅🤣

[@cryingwater]

Such pure specimen-! *wipes tears* Has been tainted *sigh of pity*

[@yuujikazami2242]

Linfamy you mean they cheat with fat ugly bastardss!!??

[@pitioti]

Oh my god!! I'm so sorry for your innocence XD

[@Linfamy]

@Crying Water 🤣

[@TheSonicfanx1]

You’re...welcome?

[@theoistrying9904]

I know it’s a few years late but thank you tocero

[@samiam2088]

Watching this in the post-COVID era is giving me flashback...

[@riches3581]

in the past (a long time ago) in my country if a girl had been a virgin or had not married for too long they would say "she is pickled" yes pickles , the food

[@Linfamy]

😱

[@croverns164]

I like pickles,can I have them?

[@serahkonner]

Awwww..

[@yeez3496]

I just got to this video and when you said, “If you were an imperial Japanese woman, what would you do.” I said immediately to myself, “Well I guess I’d have to write.” Then you went into your whole writing segment. That was pretty funny to me.

[@Linfamy]

You'd fit right into heian culture :D

[@yeez3496]

@@Linfamy Yeah, nice video by the way. It is the first one I actually watched from you. KZbin recommended it to me for some unknown reason.

[@Linfamy]

It was mostly due to bribery

[@yeez3496]

Linfamy Ah I see.

[@vutekoaalu4188]

Feels good to be back to this video after 2 years 🤓

[@Linfamy]

Wb!

[@vutekoaalu4188]

@@Linfamy Yay 🥴🎉

[@Lanlensana]

I love your voice.

[@karuskaltugov1992]

" The Fujiwara clan famously married their daughters into the Imperial family and secured 200 years of control over the government" Love is War fans: *iNtErEsTiNg*

[@AlexanderRM1000]

That moment when you realize Fujiwara Chika's family name was named after that clan because she's from a family of prominent Japanese politicians. Although she's also based on the 2nd suitor from the Tale of Princess Kaguya, according to the Kaguya wiki anyway.

[@Lemuel928]

Huh..

[@hektor6766]

Everybody's gangsta until Chika reveals her family name.

[@eila5388]

jesus christ that explains alot

[@dank7867.]

Takumi Fujiwara 😳

[@onicalcron3752]

If I were a woman in those times I'd invent weapons so unknown my enemies would not know how to combat them, develop a secretive army of highly trained assassins, and systematically take over the country to establish an empire as the empress.

[@Linfamy]

Ambitious, I like it 😉

[@onicalcron3752]

As a reply to Deserve not Desire: A Shogunate was not an empire it was sort of like a king of an area but what I am talking about is forcing all other kings of Japan into subjugation to rule all of Japan.

[@onicalcron3752]

@Deserve Not Desire Also as another note, if I develop an army in secret fast enough I would have the element of surprise, then attacking the biggest threat first would establish a fear in all other shogunates some will join willingly and I will annex them accordingly some will not and I will sweep through their territory with the biggest army Japan will have ever seen.

[@blackpinkslave9969]

I doubt it but since my niece has your name, I'd root for you Queen 👑👑👑 😂

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Jade Nguyen it would not go the way you expect it will, first women weren’t really highly respected back in that time period especially when it came to leading an army so there is no guarantee that your men would even be willing to follow you as soldiers, second where would you get the money and men to raise, arm and drill an army big enough to forge your supposed empire, like a woman of this time period wouldn’t have the wealth to feed, train and arm an army (armies are very expensive to raise and maintain) and she wouldn’t have enough men directly under her command that she could press into service, her husband on the other hand likely had a much much larger pool of peasants to impress into service in his army as levies, a woman of the Heian period clearly wouldn’t have enough men to make any force worth a damn. In the end I like your ambition but it is way too unrealistic, it would really only have any chance of working if you were a time travel from the future and/or you were male.

[@kierasnow7788]

My creative butt would be like. "I'm gonna write a story of my life as a peasant girl where I can do all the things!!"

[@cherryblossom-if2uy]

i wod be dead. love your vidos

[@lorib1696]

Interesting to think that we have boredom to thank for classics like the Tale of Genji.

[@Linfamy]

I've underestimated boredom, maybe it's a powerful force. A lot of KZbin videos are created because people are bored, are they not?

[@MrMortull]

Busy people with lots of important things to occupy their minds do not create much by way of art. Almost all cultural enrichment grows from bored rich people, and apparently Heian Japan was *overflowing* with bored rich women.

[@Linfamy]

@MrMortull indeed

[@shivamthapa7303]

To think that princesses, empresses and high Ranking women lived such lives well from where I come it is often said the more you chain a dog the more violent it gets and the more uncontrolled it gets when it is unleashed here it is used for children and teens but I see it implying in this case aswell.

[@Linfamy]

They got violent in the bedroom ;)

[@shivamthapa7303]

Haha indeed my lord indeed.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@Michal Blaszczak They're talking about high ranking women. High ranking men weren't disposable cannon fodder either, they have lower ranking soldiers for that.

[@itsalwayshalloweenexceptwh5118]

@Deserve Not DesireThere are pros and cons to being a lower ranking woman Vs a lower ranking man. Low ranking men could be forced into the army and be used as cannon fodder. As for low ranking women they were considered more valuable than men but also inferior. So men were seen as less valuable and more disposable, but they also had more authority within their respective community. Low ranking women could climb the social ladder quickly by catching the eye of a high ranking man, but they would end up in a sort of gilded cage (which is better than life as a low ranking woman, but still no authority). Low ranking men could climb the social ladder by involving themselves in government but that still didn't protect them from being used as cannon fodder. It's highly unlikely that a low ranking man would end up as a high ranking one, for women who were beautiful and had their wits about them it was more likely. If a low ranking man wanted to climb the social ladder and be safer during a war they could try to get a position for the government as a scribe/equivalent of cushy office job. But in order to do that they needed to be able to read and write and catch the eye of someone who is hiring. I don't know about the literacy statistics within lower ranking men during the Heian period though. What you would rather choose depends on what you think is more important. Some people would rather die free than be in a gilded cage. Best position to be in those times imo is a man at the top, but not the very top since people are always trying to murder the king/emperor. As for what I would choose between low ranking man Vs low ranking woman I do not know. It may depend on the specific circumstances. Both suck.

[@_Unoffical_Norahhh_]

Thank you Tercero

[@martingreet9169]

"And boom...she is swapping poems with the prince" lol caught me off guard

[@patrichausammann]

Thank you both, Tercero and Linfamy!

[@Linfamy]

And thank you Patric for watching ;)

[@patrichausammann]

@@Linfamy 🤗

[@poelaos6412]

Clickbait, you didn’ even elaborate the heavily emphasized cheating part

[@globertdasas2374]

@George Rome lol u didnt know the point

[@Mika88Kenichi]

True, oh well .... I'm sure the current modern Japanese inherited their tendency to cheat from their ancestors. I mean, loooots of celebrities are caught cheating and the common people do it a lot, too.

[@yournormalyoutubeuser7931]

I never new that quarantine existed in the Heian period.

[@mercinary001]

When I'm not making things I force my servants to become like audible. Reading to me any books I want on command.

[@Linfamy]

Lol

[@bobcharlie2337]

Knitting, drawing , weaving, and music. Stuff I already do cause I spend lots of time alone in my pre KZbin watching life. Thank you Tercero!!!

[@Linfamy]

Wow weaving, look at you all fancy

[@caragarcia2307]

When pressured for sex perfect reply: No thank you, I'm rather fond of my demon and would like to keep it.

[@Linfamy]

Nice

[@joseluismaldonado4577]

Thanks my G 👌🏼

[@GollakotaPrithvinath]

Thank you Tercero

[@tercero8027]

Great video as always Linfamy! And thanks for all the warm messages in the comments guys! 😄

[@Linfamy]

🎎

[@klientproby]

I love these little videos about Japanese history. I'm from Japan but it's still good to be reminded of our country's life stories, its culture then and now, the changes that happened through the centuries. I now live in Europe so it's a great way to introduce people from various European countries to what it was like to live in Japan against the backdrop of European history. Honto ni kansha o shitemasu. Arigato.

[@evelynfarfellwooosh1219]

Yeah be reminded of Ww2 which Japan don’t want to acknowledge.

[@maverick9357]

Especially the crap they did to China

[@vinnan6600]

If I were so bored, I'd probably start hanging up spoons on the clothing line like I used to do when I was 6. Probably

[@alperenbaytimur]

one more reason why all of those behaviours did not last, since it was absolutly not healthy for any human to live like that, just imagine how disgusting it must be to know that you wife or husban has been sleeping around before they married you and they keep on doing it even after marrying you, no wonder japanese men, arent interested in marriage and stuff like that anymore

[@checkmattee222]

Wow. That's just sad omg. Btw this was lowkey funny, "sleeve fetish was rampant"😂😂😂

[@Linfamy]

😅