Lightning McQueen COULD'VE Beat Jackson Storm In Disney's Cars 3, Here's How

[@logooniguy1426]

I think that the draft use ending would have been much more satisfying. Seeing McQueen end off in a good note would have felt so much better imo.

[@Sahil-to4wj]

And the current ending could act as a great plot for Cars 4 with some tweaks

[@XhoiZhuleku]

​@@Sahil-to4wjnah, this plot would have felt too much like a middle child.

[@Ollie.H-23]

McQueen's speed before the crash was 198 Mph and that's because he's gotten older and he's also been in many wrecks before, even in just that season. So he's not exactly in perfect condition. After his crash at the 2016 Los Angeles 500, it's the worst he's been yet and all if his broken and worn parts are replaced, restoring him to his rookie speed, which was 212.5 Mph. (There's a video calculating exactly that, I can add a link to the video if necessary). Now, come the 2017 season and the Florida 500, McQueen has learned new tactics, like drafting, and he's now only 1.5 Mph slower than Storm. That is a negligible speed difference and because McQueen has more experience, he should be able to win, if he really tried. I mean, look at the 64 laps McQueen races at the start of the races. There are 35 cars in the race and in just 50 laps, he's now in 17th, and even after that when Smokey starts talking to him, he passes another 4 to 6 cars, meaning that when Smokey says "keep this up and you'll finish in the top 10" he's pretty much already in the top 10. Compared to Cruz, it took her over 450 laps to reach the top 10, and it took McQueen about 55. Here's the video calculating the speed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZiok3Wbos2thKcsi=07jRmMHDlM5rPE-Z

[@Grape_y]

Damn

[@thinkwithvideos2238]

Mcqueen is a veteran, while Cruz is a rookie. So the lap difference shouldn't be a surprise.

[@Ollie.H-23]

@@thinkwithvideos2238 exactly! McQueen could've easily won it if Cruz could

[@brandonkeith628]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Ollie.H-23Actually, there were 40 cars in total, and it was almost halfway through the race when the wreck in turn 2 happened, and by then Lightning was somewhere between 10th and 30th, so he didn’t reach the top 10 before swapping out. Cruz came in at almost lap 250. It probably took her between 200 and 240 laps to get into the top 10, and by the time she got into Storm’s slipstream, there were at most 5-10 laps to go. Had Lightning stayed in the race, he would indeed have made it into the top 10, but he would not have been able to get past Storm, cuz his top speed was still down at 198 MPH even after his crash and thus could only exceed 200 MPH by drafting, and even then, he could only get up to 210 MPH, which would not be enough. However, like you said, if Lightning had gotten a complete overhaul, his top speed would be back to what it was in 2006, at 212 MPH, and then slipstreaming other racers would push him up to around 220 MPH, which is probably the same speed Storm and the other next gen racers would get to while in a slipstream. With that in mind, ignoring the rest of the top 10, he would have made it into Storm’s slipstream in less than 100 laps, and would have won easily.

[@Ollie.H-23]

@brandonkeith628 most of that information is wrong. There are only 35 Cars, I can list them all out if you want. And McQueen was restored back to 212 Mph after the crash. I calculated that again by looking at the final race around Thomasville before they head off for Florida. Thomasville is based on North Wilkesboro Speedway which is 0.625 miles. McQueen travels approximately half the track in about 5.31 seconds. Which means his speed was 211.86 Mph, and considering this is on dirt, he was slowed down a little bit by that. The crash in Turn 2 happens on lap 64. Cruz enters a lap later, lap 65 and she reaches the top 10 by about lap 480. 480 - 65 = 415. Perhaps I was wrong when saying it took 450 laps, but even still, it was 400 laps minimum for her to reach the top 10. Also, I rewatched the scene just before the crash and McQueen is shown to be in about 18th, which is still nearly half the field and considering these cars are meant to be better in every way, that is very impressive. I think it's possible McQueen could have won, especially taking into account the deleted alternate ending, but even if he didn't win, no doubt he would finish in the top 5, but then add drafting, he probably gets top 3, maybe even 1st. List of all the racers present for the Florida 500. 1. Flip Dover 2. J.D McPillar 3. Eric Braker 4. Bubba Wheelhouse 5. Chris Roamin 6. Harvey Rodcap 7. Daniel Swervez 8. Jackson Storm 9. Ryan Laney 10. Chase Racelott 11. Tim Treadless 12. Cam Spinner 13. Ed Truncan 14. Steve LePage 15. Rich Mixon 16. Michael Rotor 17. Aaron Clocker 18. George New-Win 19. Herb Curbler 20. Barry DePedal 21. Jim Reverick 22. H.J Hollis 23. Richie Gunzit 24. Michael "M Fast" Fong 25. Will Rusch 26. Dan Carcia 27. Conrad Camber 28. J.P Drive 29. Paul Conrev 30. Sheldon Shifter 31. Nick Shift 32. Lightning McQueen 33. Spikey Fillups 34. Noah Gocek 35. Jonas Carvers

[@Sir_FerrariDaytonaSp3]

It would've made more sense if Mcqueen actually beat Storm himself, and once Mcqueen finally did what he wanted to do, he would've gone to retire and tell Cruz to replace him and he becomes her crew chief. Then we get some scenes Mcqueen coaching Cruz blah blah blah, and then happy ending

[@justcody6068]

I mean to be honest the ending made sense on why he counts as the winner

[@Mike_BT]

Actually w

[@TheEyelessOne]

We NEED a Cars 4 with Cruz as the villain! Like, she become cocky, “Ok boomer” style, and McQueen has to remind her that HE’S the on that got her into the game.

[@savanthsajil7857]

Wow that's a great idea

[@RobloxAndToilets]

@TheEyelessOne I agree! Jackson Storm and Lightning McQueen would team up and Cruz Ramirez would come in third and McQueen in first and Storm in second.

[@dennis-ju1gm]

Brilliant

[@TheEyelessOne]

@@dennis-ju1gm Thanks!

[@legendarygodzilla14]

Add the new stuff about her from Cars on the Road, where she now has a whole bunch of new skills, and that really works!

[@ksk6275]

The fact the we haven't seen McQueen win piston cup on screen😱

[@Matylde_25]

No but we seen him win world grand prix and triple piston cup win

[@openingshift7070]

It doesn’t take away his greatness and he still won 7 Piston Cups

[@CypherSomari]

Cars The Videogame:

[@WelcomedBison93]

except in the game

[@aquilessd2536]

​@@Matylde_25not 3, lightning won 7 piston cups

[@Funcrashmalej]

6:57 This SHOULD have happened

[@DecMakesARec]

The funny thing is we never saw McQueen win a piston cup on screen *and it’s terrible*

[@3disme]

1:56 this also contains a scene that’s pretty dark for PG rated movie. Cars 2: 👀 And yes, I think cars two is the best of the franchise. I don’t care what anyone says.

[@LightBloxVidsYT]

That movie was not as bad as people say

[@3disme]

@@LightBloxVidsYT it’s my favorite so

[@GTLH44]

Same here I don't care either

[@3disme]

@@GTLH44 nice

[@emeraldphoenix5868]

I personally agree with you.

[@notcancelledanymoreraff]

0:57 cars 2 is actually that one i like the most in the series.

[@RobloxAndToilets]

it’s good

[@TheEncoreHedgehog]

It's not, mater is annoying & the spy thriller makes no sense, & IT BROUGHT THE NO LOGIC OF HOW EVERYTHING WORKS AT THE SERIES NOW, AND I HATE I- But aleast we got the world grand prix which aleast makes this movie better.

[@leroyjenkins7968]

My 3yr old son loves it. Cars was after my time so I don't really have an opinion on any.

[@DDestroyer10]

Cars 2 was really good in my opinion

[@rgodzz1242]

the animation quality going up for the crash Made it ten times more impactful

[@shahriar5570]

Fans didn't totally connected with cruz as much as they did with McQueen

[@margirisvandam6571]

Cars 3 is a great movie, though I really would have preferred the cut ending instead he one that made it into the film. It would have been great to have seen lightning finally winning the piston cup and defeating jackson storm. The ending with cruise doesn't feel as satisfying.

[@EliasRoy]

True

[@Aviationcrashesfacts10]

Fr

[@StrikerEureka13]

He won multiple piston cups, we just never see it on screen

[@JonJonFan0237]

Thats why it doesnt feel as satisfying​@@StrikerEureka13

[@Fabtendo_X2]

eventually it comes cars 4 and ligtning can defeat Cruz. in Cars on the road you can see Cars can drive with Rocket Mater and rocket Mater must be more speed than jackson

[@otb.devonte4276]

I had a feeling McQueen could’ve defeated storm. But no matter what, he’ll always be the fastest and best racecar to me 🥲

[@SirNether5000]

Imagine if Cars 4 is Mater absolutely trashing Storm somehow

[@Epicboy099]

They should've gone with a mix of crash and drafting tbh, storm could've got drafted by mcqueen and crashed while trying to overtake him again out of pure spite.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

The Alternative Ending would’ve been very interesting. But a way better ending and climax would be that Lightning McQueen wins the race because Storm and Cruz just suddenly crashed and Lightning slowed down before the crash happened, and the revelation being that the crash happened because those two were being too cocky and overestimated their own capabilities. Lightning McQueen actually wins the big race because of the lessons that he actually learned from the Trilogy which is *ultimately to understand his own limitations and to learn to slow down.* That would’ve made for a fantastic conclusion to the Cars Trilogy…

[@NexXxu]

Anyway, i hope for Cars 4 we have S R X A R C, or for now the I R O C A R C. Imagine, the true World Grand Prix, but just with the retired guys and some new generation. The entry list - McQueen - Strip Weathers - Chick Hicks - Dale Jr (why not LOL) - Francesco Bernouli - Jeff Gorvette - Jackson Storm - Cruz Ramires No side plot, just pure Racing.

[@Musabaig551]

MAN MCQUEEN can definitely beat Jackson storm in 2 ways well 1 is not nesesary, just for better progress 1 If Doc would be alive and coach him 2 If he would get the upgrade which he got in part 2 of Cars and he is never gonna get old for me, because I looooooovvvvvveeee MCQUEEN like if you stand with me

[@Musabaig551]

LIKE IF YOUR WITH ME

[@fhenja]

We also can't ignore the fact that mcqueen got rebuilt with a brand new engine and brand new parts so he could reach the speed of his prime with proper training. His old parts and engine were worn out after endless racing so there is no suprise that he became slighly slower over the years it's just not age. Mcqueen in his prime was 212mph while storm sits at 214mph at his absolute best so with drafting and using all the things he learned from smokeyb he could have easily taken the win with little effort

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

But because of plot and also because of Feminism…

[@rjshadow4321]

it completes the storyline of McQueen to coach Cruz movie 1 he's a young hotshot who uses what he learned from Doc and Mater to be top dog in movie 2 but now in movie 3 he's getting old and a whole new generation has come in so he becomes Cruzs Doc to pass on what he learned to her.

[@Skywalker8510Too]

They could’ve still had him retire after winning against storm with the third ending to go coach Cruz

[@Itz_Puxe]

Don't get me wrong I did enjoy cars 2 at the time when I was a kid because there was a lot of action, but the older I got I honestly didn't realize how they just completely changed the tone of the movie series BECAUSE HOW DID IT GO FROM MCQUEEN LEARNING HOW TO RAISE BETTER TO MATER SAVING LONDON?

[@GENYRED]

why I hate the Cars 3 is because it feels like the McQueen reverted to his rookie self, its almost like all the character development we had in Cars 1 was lost

[@raphaelultimo1425]

You do realize that Lightning Mcqueen got older and slower?

[@GENYRED]

@raphaelultimo1425 that has nothing to do with my point and comment, can you elaborate

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@GENYRED Yeah. They very much regressed Lightning’s character arc all in the name of feminism. Lightning’s story arc was completely undermined by Cruz anyway because Cruz just completely surpasses Lightning McQueen. She’s Lightning McQueen Plus…

[@DanyaZwiegelaar]

6:50 It would've been amazing see McQueen race for Team Dinoco and win (hope he would've done the same move as Doc and Cruz did)!

[@Sovietunion233]

How fast was McQueen at the alternate ending when he beat storm? Was he still the same speed

[@ganpatguru9178]

I just walked off the moment they switched, it would've have been better that after the crash mcqueen would have retired after the crash and went to find his successor and train her

[@evanholloway1692]

But if McQueen was still in there, Cruz wouldn’t become a racer at all. And Sterling would probably still hold McQueen back. And she wouldn’t start her racing school or even mention it at Mato and Mateo’s wedding.

[@jamiegioca9448]

That’s not what the deleted ending shows us, though

[@Dar_ishere]

In the original ending Cruz would wear the number 95 and rusteze cause sterling would basically fire McQueen then Tex and Smokey give him the number 51 and dinoco and cruz and McQueen still raced and won McQueen came first and Cruz came second

[@Akkingsk0007]

Cars 2 220 MPH to 198 in cars 3

[@safe_lol]

I don't know why so many people dislike Cars 2. It's a complete different movie than Cars 3.. we can't always have the same thing. Cars 3 isn't simular to Cars 1 either, it's closer, but not simular. Cars 2 is my favourite Cars movie, definetly.

[@_Turtle_420]

Cars 2 was necessary for world building. We got amazing races and the plot and it actually coincided.

[@mora103]

Dang the other ending with dinoco would have been better. We got cheated on that 🤦

[@AaronPawsay2019]

In cars 2 Mcqueen's speed is unknown but someone said that his speed is 230mph

[@justcody6068]

I mean you got to remember he ages so to be honest he must’ve hit a point where his body can’t do what it use to do back then.

[@kyezun]

@@justcody6068 the crash where his entire body was destroyed and he was completely rebuilt:

[@AaronPawsay2019]

im cars 4 He might be alot faster then jackson storm if he was in his 2011 From

[@magicjellybnm]

@@AaronPawsay2019 the reason they didnt do that is because those modifications wouldnt have fit the guidelines

[@marekgaming8456]

@@magicjellybnm then why can storm race when it doesn`t fit the guidelines

[@scott.truesdale]

Imagine if doc had recorded a message for mcqueen before he died to teach mcqueen how to beat someone faster than him. Maybe even a recording to coach him through his race as he was racing. Telling him when to pit, when to push etc. Obviously it wouldn't be able to happen because doc's voice actor died but I think it would have been a beautiful last send off for doc and it would give mcqueen a good reason to retire after that race to coach cruise

[@EnderPengu]

I really wish the cut ending was the ending that did make it through, because its just a good look on what disney is, and a much more satisfying ending

[@ise5356]

We were robbed of this ending

[@adrianlouis2108]

To be honest it was for the plot. I mean dont tell me McQueen couldnt get better parts or a better aerodynamics redesign to beat Jackson.

[@TheSnowBerry]

Let’s just hope all the next gens don’t go flying into the air like a certain nascsr car from 2007-2012 (Texas 2008)

[@TheSnowBerry]

Also btw you forgot another way for lightning McQueen beating storm that being a poorly timed cation happening (it’s happened before)

[@lbsublime2450]

I liked the original ending, the theater movie ending I didn’t care for.

[@OliverThulinWulcan]

Cars 2 is my fav cars movie it has bangar music cool race car and cool race tracks

[@MutePenguin1155]

Word

[@_mr.j_]

It really is the most underrated in the franchise

[@RawsonproductionsYT]

Yes sir best one

[@mountainteavii7]

@@_mr.j_i would say 3 is Cars 2 was definitely loved especially the video game

[@j.j.oliphant9794]

cars 2 was not bad just aimed at a younger audience. One of the things that made Cars 1 so epic is that it appealed to all ages but cars two was really just for kids. This seems to happen a lot with movies like this where the sequels audience is much more focused and less inclusive than the original.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

That’s just lame

[@j.j.oliphant9794]

I agree, at least with cars the 3rd one chose a much deeper theme and played to all ages again.

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@j.j.oliphant9794 They downplayed the idea of Lightning McQueen dealing with his own mortality and also being past his prime

[@j.j.oliphant9794]

@@TiagoGomez-hb9te That is very true. I find it funny that so many people in the comments think it would have been better for Lighting McQueen to have straight up won the race himself. I think the movie could have done a better job of showing him passing the baton and moving on to couching. I completely agree with you.

[@MaDwsalot]

who re watched the crash scene after jake paul vs mike tyson

[@Theo_chill]

Meee

[@PanAm747Clipper]

i dont need to watch the video, i know that the first rule in stockcar racing is to learn how to wreck some1 without wrecking yourself

[@the_desert_hobo6965]

So all he had to do was shake and bake

[@Shrihan_Bhattachryya]

"mcqueens crash was bad", meanwhile romain grosjean

[@LloydSheliverock]

0:57 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀☠️☠️☠️😂😂😅😅😆😆😭😭😭 The face

[@zinoxdyt1644]

Not funny

[@el_henricko]

what if McQueen used the 2010 WGP Spec?

[@ZUnknownFox]

My real complaint with the 3rd movie outside lightning not officially winning is that as he got older he got slower, but they're cars. wouldn't it be wise for say Rusty's to keep Lightning in his best condition to guarantee a win? I mean like He got slower as time went on. he was much faster in the first and second film.

[@JohnHite-i1m]

Why the hell did they scrap that

[@AjAnthonyMagnaye]

Cars 2 is my fav cars movie i like the story

[@RawsonproductionsYT]

Honestly the best

[@yzdmarrackech7702]

Cars 2 was the least good it was far from the story and focused more of the action cars 1 and cars 3 are better

[@justssj4chillin8]

​@@yzdmarrackech7702 True, but I do think cars 2 was to also introduce more characters, and areas ( that you won't see from cars 1 or 3 ) cars 3 does show different tracks sure, but areas and, such? Not really. Even though it's canon to cars 1 which I do enjoy. But I like the idea of what cars 2 was doing introducing more in depth into the cars world, and how other countries work, I find that really cool

[@engineerbeta1515]

I don't know much about racing but assuming McQueen's top speed is 196 or 198 mph, he can't go past that without losing control (Reason why he crashed in Cars 3) or risking his head gasket blowing up (or other severe mechanical failures). His engine simply can't produce enough power and his rpm is probably redlining. He is also a custom built racecar so I don't think he can lose anymore weight to go faster. He really just had to retire.

[@WelcomedBison93]

the end tho

[@debashishsamantray7629]

It would have more sence if lighting mq queen didnt crash since he was the most experienced car there and his top speed before crash was 220mph not 196mph and on the first appearance of storm it was clear that mq queen was going easy on him but after crash he wasnt

[@JasonBle]

Super Mario Odyssey music in the background for the entire video

[@bengrant9316]

McQueen by the end of 3 was faster than storm it made me so mad when he let Cruz take his place I almost left the whole theater

[@johnharris6655]

So question, if everyone has to Qualify, how did they not know that Jackson Storm was on the track.

[@paulbutcher2265]

McQueen can go 235mph now

[@UzairAhmed-rg4sy]

How?

[@marquesakpamgbo4094]

He never went 235 his highest top speed in cars 2 was 200

[@UzairAhmed-rg4sy]

@@marquesakpamgbo4094 you think that he had an overdrive?

[@marquesakpamgbo4094]

@ maybe but it wouldn’t really make sense for him to do that cause wgp laps are shorter than piston cup races but I personally think the reason why he was able to beat Francesco was by doing a nascar technique which is side drafting which allows you to slow down a car ahead and pull you forward

[@UzairAhmed-rg4sy]

@@marquesakpamgbo4094 I see what you mean

[@swedishplayz]

I mean, has anyone seeing Lightning Mcqueen's eyes here. They are gone "2:15" 💀 But in the next shot, his eyes aren't gone but are closed

[@Ronald_JonesMinakoHamlinfan]

7:14 😆 😂

[@johnharris6655]

Can we talk about the Car Pope in Cars 2. If there is a Car pope, does that mean there was a Car Jesus. Was he crucified by Pontus Pontiac.

[@stephenxd4590]

I hate the ending hahahaha

[@ItsCarlHomieChillOut]

But what if the mcqueen from cars 2 came to cars 3 (Note:His speed was 220)

[@marquesakpamgbo4094]

His speed wasn’t 220 thats Francesco lightnings speed is 200 In cars 2

[@kaitliningram3715]

Why wouldn’t he just get upgraded to where you can get faster people in real life do it all the time?

[@ytb9soko599]

nice respect

[@chinmaykishor102]

They shouldve upgraded mcqueen on several levels ahead

[@klaeborneteed683]

im sure if we watched the rest of the season Cruz would suck at every track besides superspeedways as she was basically thrown into the top series. I wonder where I've seen this before 🤔

[@lordkiwiz1535]

I don't get it why Cars 2 is bad, except Mater being main character and that girlfriend joke, please explain me why people think it's bad... Honestly asking because I loved Cars having weapons and basically Mater being important!

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

Mater just wasn’t written well in Cars 2 and the movie keeps undermining its own premise…

[@lordkiwiz1535]

@TiagoGomez-hb9te Okay, I maybe think about the first point but if you think Cars should only be about McQueen or Racing, sorry bud, I like guns more than tire screeches...

[@TiagoGomez-hb9te]

@@lordkiwiz1535 Cars 2 wasted its genius premise so badly. The Cars series in general is just wasted potential

[@lordkiwiz1535]

@TiagoGomez-hb9te Hmm... Cars 3? Sure... But Cars 2 tried to do something unique, and I didn't find it bad though... Still choices change person to person... But yeah I'll need in depth information on HOW, did it mess up..?

[@Richard-Gore]

I guess for audience, Cars 1 is what define the whole series: racing, friendship, and the growth of McQueen's mindset. Just like Porsche 996 (Sally) is a beautiful car, but many 911 fans just don't think it's a good 911. They think frog eye is a key element, and shouldn't be changed. I like cars 2 too, but it looks weird between Cars 1 and Cars 3. Maybe it could be a side series, like or something. I'm looking forward to the next And I don't think cars 2 ruins the potential of Cars series, even if it does, Cars 3 saves it all.

[@drumsofberk]

The governing body of The Hudson Hornet Cup is really dropping the ball... er... gasket. If they are to be like Nascar, they would not have let this slide because of parody. All the cars have to be the same. So either everyone must be restricted to allow the generation of cars like McQueen to catch up, or have the cars like McQueen be able to upgrade to catch up to the next gen cars. McQueen should just go make his own league and they would garner more fans and ratings on TV then the boring next gen cars... Kind of sounds familiar... The Xfinity series on average had better quality of racing than what the Cup series had. So, McQueen could start something similar and still be able to race

[@noahstromsmoe2227]

I could watch cars 2 endlessly

[@itzyaboiernesst]

Didn't Mater had rockets which the speed was way faster than Storm? And McQueen could still keep up in Cars 2?

[@kyleruffin5048]

cars 2 is so good idk what u mean

[@badyoutuber1986]

Wasn't McQueen in his mid 30s near the end of his career where physical decline is expected? I've excepted that he is no longer the best.

[@mountainteavii7]

I disagree with you on that man Cars 2 the best one out of the trilogy. Lighting racing the world and matter as a spy living the spy life. Nah Cars 2 amazing movie man I prefer it then 1 and 3 I always go back and watch it. Cars 2 10/10 man fire 🔥

[@infernoplexx9562]

I agree i re-watched it today lol

[@Axelotl17]

i love cars 2...

[@cenasaturn5205]

Fun Fact: Jackson Storm is a Tesla

[@CarEnthusiast-m4f]

Also storm is electric not gas

[@v3xo-]

Cars 2 is my fav- 💀

[@sujitbonthala8688]

The original ending was much better ngl

[@shobhitasingh841]

Mcqueen would have beat storm if he didn't demotivated him and would have reach the speed of his rookie time.Like if you agree

[@djsharva6348]

The only disturbing thing is that they are AI cars.

[@Theo_chill]

What

[@axpex7777]

CARS 2 WAS THE BEST CARS MOVIE OF ALL TIME

[@PauloGabriel-q5o]

Not even gonna lie tô you this movie makes 0 sense

[@tbjuiceboi954]

Or build him to be better

[@KAMI_1911]

Bro is THE cope-er

[@ianquadros1843]

6:02

[@KAMI_1911]

So feminism made mc"queen" lose the race

[@Slippin306]

Cars 2 is good

[@Ogeomanwankwo]

O my God

[@Fortnitegames-x9m]

Nahhhh

[@Ogeomanwankwo]

😅😅😅