Lightyear - Is It Good or Nah? (Pixar Review)

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[@C.D.Pooper]

No wonders why Andy gave away his Buzz Lightyear toy so easily after growing up

[@gentikeri8236]

Lol

[@AnimatedCarl]

Because he grew up and didn't need his toys anymore? He gave all of his toys away at the end of Toy Story 3.

[@FFKonoko]

​@@AnimatedCarl you might be a kid, but you get it better. Especially since lightyear was the origin, star command came after, Andy wouldn't have known or cared about the original "live action" movie

[@Depth217]

@@AnimatedCarl the point went right over your head kid

[@sakuradabp6400]

@@AnimatedCarl Dude, this is a joke, don't take it serious

[@dawashingmachine9158]

This isn’t the movie Andy watched that made him want a Buzz action figure, this is the soulless live action reboot cash-grab Andy watched when he was 20 something and complained about on Twitter for not being as good as the original cartoon

[@wallyhackenslacker]

I think I read somewhere that either the producer or the director, don't remember who right now, had stated that in universe, ie. to Andy, Lightyear is meant to be a live action film.

[@Borderose]

@@wallyhackenslacker Live Action or animated--the problem is the same: no way was this the movie that inspired the toy.

[@redpanda6497]

Andy the Redditor.

[@yuukihollow]

Exactly! I'm glad you mentioned the animated series. Much better than this movie.

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

You said it

[@jeang6588]

There's no way everyone forgot that Andy DID NOT BUY BUZZ but was instead gifted to him. Every single review I've seen mentions that Andy bought him and I'm just like huh??

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

True, but I bet Andy demanded the toy, like every other kid would do, so I can see their perspectives here.

[@solid_rooster4587]

@@shigerumiyamoto9612 it was gifted to him by a friend in his birthday, he didn't ask for it

[@haleywalker1640]

@@solid_rooster4587 I thought it was a surprise final present from his mother.

[@cradica]

I was confused about that too

[@shigerumiyamoto9612]

@@solid_rooster4587 no... okay long time i saw the film but didnt his mum give buzz as a final surprise gift???

[@zanethezaniest274]

The worst part about the ending is that it didn’t show like an adult Andy watching the movie with like his kid, and just saying “What a cash grab.”

[@chileanyways196]

Lmaoo

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

To add more salt in the wound Andy should have been a sleep

[@finishhim6663]

Genius

[@LordLucario12]

The fact they did NOTHING with the post credit scenes is a perfect summation of how phoned in this was

[@Jacob_G9]

That would have made it WORTH THE WATCH.

[@loganwendigo937]

The best part about this movie is how it has led to people remembering the Buzz Lightyear cartoon. The exact opposite reaction Pixar probably intended

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

Task failed successfully. I ended up hearing stories from the older generation and looked it up myself and watched old episodes leaked on KZbin. It's total class and gold. Really original and so much love put into it. No, I am not describing the movie.

[@rellek4053]

I watched that as a kid and can’t remember a thing about it! I thought I was crazy thinking Buzz had a cartoon that already portrayed him way better

[@madmanvarietyshow9605]

Fucking loved that show as a kid. Lasseter for some reason hated it and it makes no sense. Because it was great! Tons of fun, lots of comedy and entertaining villains, even some light horror with the NOS-4-A2 and Wirewolf episodes. The pilot movie was fun too! So tbh I'm still gonna hope we get all that on Disney+ some day. I doubt it, but I'd be happy.

[@TheMaestroMizerous]

I hear from people that Pixar hates the cartoon.

[@datzfatz2368]

​@@TheMaestroMizerous yeah but y tho?^^

[@traviswilliams2348]

The whole "shot down and denied followed by huge pay off" joke bit was actually done pretty well by the lego movie, the astronaut guy wanting to make a spaceship the whole movie and all that.

[@Maddiedoggie]

I love Benny the spaceship guy

[@nicolaskhoury2144]

Or Rico getting to use explosives and Go Boom with the Madagascar penguins after being told not to

[@johnleonard9102]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Spaceship guy finally got to make his spaceship.

[@wars4bricks]

That brings me to the lego movie 2 where the villain, emmet from the future “REX DANGERVEST” is literally SPOILER ALERT. future Buzz (zurg) in this movie. There stories are so damn similar.

[@ihaveseenthings0]

“Build away! Whatever your name is...”

[@Kable10]

I don't understand why they didn't use Buzz Lightyear's theme from the Toy Story movies, it's so good

[@derekhofstetler3998]

They did, in the credits.

[@Polomance862]

@@derekhofstetler3998 That really doesn’t count

[@iloveallred-headedcharacte7809]

They actually did it was just a bit remixed

[@SuperLuis225]

KARATE CHOP ACTION!!

[@IAmInfinitus208]

Heck the Buzz Lightyear of Star Command Movie/TV series theme is more memorable than this theme! Giacchino sounds really tired here, even though yes, he's a great composer but even his scores not enough to save this movie!

[@Shinycrafted]

Pixar really could’ve had a cool post credits scene with Andy watching the movie. Totally fumbled the bag

[@FragglevisionReturns]

I attended the advance screening on Wednesday and got a cool art print of Andy and his toys watching the movie in the theater. So there's that I guess.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Andy would have likely been a sleep midway through the film

[@jessicagreenfield6584]

Aw they didn't do that? I haven't seen the film yet but I was literally thinking about this before the movie came out. Sucks they didn't do that then. It would have been cool

[@IcyDiamond]

Yeah that was such a missed opportunity, he could’ve been in the theater with his Mom begging for a Buzz Lightyear for his birthday

[@mrcwillis6970]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@MrMgkman13]

The idea of “This is the movie that Andy loved” is an awesome idea in my opinion. The problem was that this does not feel like the movie Andy would have fallen in love with.

[@methanf1]

couldn't have said it better myself

[@BigMac87963]

This movie isn’t a flop, it’s failing with style

[@evanellis7543]

More like… without style

[@MrGamernova]

It's falling from style.

[@evanellis7543]

@@MrGamernova ah yes that’s it

[@lordkaijux5262]

@@MrGamernova It's falling from grace apparently.

[@LoveMyUnusual]

Years of academy training wasted!

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

Wall-e being a movie that exists and made by Pixar would make you think Pixar of all people would know better about how to make an interesting Sci-Fi movie. I’m not expecting something as gutsy as a movie that has no dialogue for a good chunk of the movie but still.

[@lockerbuddy2039]

@don't be surprised Everybody gangsta till the bot suddenly gains enough sentience to agree with a movie review.

[@beyond-journeys-end]

@@lockerbuddy2039 I feel like they are everywhere today. .

[@planety2021]

I know right lmao

[@maxschreck9988]

Yeah, but this was early 1990s Live Action. Either Star Wars never happened and this was the decade late alternative, or this was a really, really bad copy.

[@redpanda6497]

@@lockerbuddy2039 Lol

[@TheLobsterCopter5000]

4:19 That's the entire point of the movie though. Buzz is so occupied with trying to correct his mistake that he becomes blinded to the fact that things turned out mostly ok for everyone in spite of it. He's so determined to change the past, that he completely misses out on the present, and that's why future Buzz is only interested in traveling back in time and undoing his mistake, and isn't interested in present Buzz's concerns about all the things that will be erased if he does so. That's effectively the turning point of the movie for present Buzz, and the point that he realises his real mistake was being so obsessed with what he views as his big mistake.

[@g.d.graham2446]

So it's kinda like a "Meet the Robinsons" in 2022?

[@27mosquitoes]

This is it! He tries to do what he thinks is best for everyone. Near the end he figures out that maybe the best wasn't what he thought all along (IE going back to earth) and I don't think the story gets enough credit for that.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

There is a problem herer in of otself. His friends family should not be possible. The ship crashed and somehow they have the tech on board to allow 2 females to have a kid? No this movie was solely about the message which is why they refused to use Tim Allen. Disney is fillednwith people lore concern about the message turn telling a good story.

[@madridistasejati5358]

I mean when you got people to doesn't really care about Buzz motives, they would not care for the change too. This is what exactly the problem of Lightyear. There's no reason to care for his character at all. Also the idea of future buzz being Zurg kinda lame.

[@RandomDragonEXE]

So basically "that was his mistake!" but in movie form? Got it.

[@GarrettPetersen]

I always assumed Buzz was from a funner, sillier Star Wars kind of movie. Everything I've seen from this movie is aesthetically very gritty. It feels off.

[@masterdeetectiv9520]

Yeah hes literally a star wars parody In toy story two theres a ‘i am your father’ scene

[@II-jz1zo]

Movie is full of Star Wars references, which was fun and I loved the cat so i overall enjoyed it but felt like the movie was too short to completely work. I forgot the names of the two side characters and I understood the importance of what happened but it felt like the movie didn’t let it sink in enough. Like the trauma of having your close partner grow older and die while you only just spent a few days is very serious but the movie just moved to fast to really see how he feels.

[@wallyhackenslacker]

It gives me a feel like the Buzz from Toy Story is Christopher Reeve's Superman, while this Buzz is Henry Cavill's Superman. It's not that the idea is bad per se, but the differences in tone are so stark it becomes quite off putting at first. If only this movie had a better script I could totally see it become something of a sleeper hit later on as people got more used to a different, less comedic take on Buzz. Though, imho, Lightyear's take on Zurg is so bad and dumb I really can't see that happening.

[@antusFireNova]

@@masterdeetectiv9520 maybe not a specific parody to star wars, rather a parody of the sci-fi franchises that spawned off because of it

[@masterdeetectiv9520]

@@antusFireNova true

[@lonebattledroid4474]

They should’ve gotten Patrick Warburton to voice Zurg. It’d be a great reference to the cartoon/foreshadowing since he voiced Buzz in the show

[@Mr_bukowski4435]

AY PETER

[@miketrapper0464]

Hey I liked the movie and the secret of who zurg is is James Brolin, brother of Josh brolin, Thanos, he sounded like him I liked it

[@silashurd3597]

I liked the voice acting James Brolin did for Zurg, I think it worked.

[@yugiohgames104]

Ranking for Buzz Lightyear voice acting 1. Tim Allen 2. Chris Evans 3. Patrick Warbuton

[@reikun86]

@@miketrapper0464 I thought James Brolin was Josh Brolin's father.

[@Dr_Smash]

Seems like Disney also wants to forget there was already a fun Lightyear movie based in the Toy Story universe way back during the VHS days. It was goofy and didn't take itself too seriously. But it actually knew what it was, unlike 2022's snoozefest.

[@wallyhackenslacker]

John Lasseter famously hated the cartoon for who knows what reason.

[@TheShinyFeraligatr]

@@wallyhackenslacker Because he didn't work on it, has a massive ego, and that was during that period of time when Disney and Pixar didn't really like each other and made by Disney.

[@dutchmansmine9053]

Oh yeah, they want to forget it alright.

[@AntiVillain26845]

@@dutchmansmine9053 And tried replacing it with a version we want to forget.

[@camoking3609]

​@AntiVillain26845 True irony In trying to create a buzz lightyear movie to forget the original exists, all it does is make us remember how much better the original was

[@Depth217]

The brilliance of Zurg in TS2 is that you know he’s not an actual threat. But he’s designed so well, the lighting is so great, and he’s played up so well that you actually gasp when he arrives in the elevator. You could put Duel of the Fates there and it’d be even better.

[@megarakadmea]

I looked it up. You’re right.

[@getfricked6977]

The best part is that everyone probably forgot about Zurg at that point because of all the other stuff that happens, so him showing up is even more shocking

[@Depth217]

@@getfricked6977 agreed!!! Like the main plot is going into maximum overdrive because of the dramatic reveal of Prospector, Woody finally coming to terms with everything after his great argument with Buzz, and the ticking clock of Al heading for the airport. And none of the characters even knew he was coming! Only Utility Buzz and Rex took him seriously as a threat, the former because he’s still deluded and the latter because he’s Rex. The others seem to realize this Zurg isn’t really a threat and carry on with the mission, but it’s played so well for Utility Buzz and Rex that you feel it’s real. And even if he’s not a direct threat to the group as a whole, he’s still an obstacle that could jeopardize rescuing Woody. But it’s still so freaking cool. You can hear the “KORRRAAAAAAAA” the moment his elevator arrives on their level.

[@Madame_Talos]

I really wanna see that scene with Duel of the Fates now, thank you

[@Depth217]

@Switchblade1013 he was clearly a parody of Vader.

[@enviisyk]

"He was so enthusiastic about using it but everyone kept shooting him down and when the time finally came for him to use it it would have so much payoff" so benny with his spaceship in the lego movie

[@liamphibia]

No kidding that it's like Benny!

[@pop_tato]

benny supremacy

[@abrahamcoronelbeltran6033]

Spaceship🛐

[@brainlessappendix4369]

Damm nice observation.

[@dynomite9524]

Thats the exact thing that came to mind for me too

[@lightray9264]

Sox was the best part of the film. He was honestly a really funny and charming character and it’s really easy to screw that up and make him annoying, but not once did I feel that way.

[@kennel878Xx]

just watched, can confirm sox is my favorite character

[@Theboredgod]

sox and zurg for me

[@cdangelo1843]

But it does make you wonder why Andy would want a Buzz toy after this instead of a Sox toy.

[@disneyvillainsfan1666]

I wish that precious robot cat was in a better movie.

[@empirebeach]

hes cute, sure, but i feel like they just made him so they could turn him into marketable toys

[@TheChozoOne]

Wow, if I had a nickel for every time Chris Evans played a character who went forward in time but didn’t age while also forming a relationship with an old and deceased friend’s relative, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice, right?

[@falcon8105]

Well he didn't kiss this one, so let's be thankful about that

[@g.t.3186]

@@falcon8105 Everytime they had a somewhat intimate moment I could feel myself tense up lmao let's be thankful indeed

[@falcon8105]

@@g.t.3186 yeah, I think it was around the middle end is where I was going like "bruh no"

[@Thunderbender18830]

Top tier comment

[@nybergsgarage]

I understood that reference.

[@morganbrewer6455]

the movie feels like the cinematic reboot of the Saturday morning cartoon Andy watched as a kid. A movie reboot that college-age Andy showed up for the midnight premier to watch and left feeling unsatisfied, and then had to ask 'was the movie BAD, or am I just not the target audience, anymore?' Which, naturally just leads him to re-watch the cartoon to see if it's as good as he remembers it. Since the Toy Story franchise has largely been about themes of nostalgia and the ways we relate to our childhood via the toys in our lives, and the worth we place on these nostalgic objects, I think it would have been more interesting to make a movie with parallel stories: Andy revisiting the TV show of his childhood, and Buzz Lightyear's evolution through media and time.

[@mrlaz9011]

So andy is gonna become a review youtuber?

[@sebastiansandoval4861]

@@Raya-ir4tm Nope, they definitely didn't say the movie being bad was justified. They said they think the feeling the movie gave them would have worked if it intertwined with andy revisiting his childhood.

[@serenityjoy1872]

@@Raya-ir4tm I disagree. While not every show or movie was good, we had a lot of good ones. Sticking with Disney (though many other creators count for good content), the Renaissance era of movies are agreed to be great. Disney doesn't understand what makes them great and keeps making soulless reboots and tie ins. On the other hand, there are some excellent new things like Encanto. I haven't watched all of the new stuff, but I did watch Turning Red and it was decent. It's probably going to take some more flops before Disney realizes that they just can't bank on brand recognition alone. I am looking forward to either new things or if they just have to do a tie in, putting more effort into writing something interesting.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Should've just gotten Toy Story B4

[@BababooeyGooey]

And then a mid-credits scene of Toy Buzz Lightyear and his group watching the credits roll and Buzz furiously picking apart the movie to the amusement of his friends

[@n19ntendods]

Considering how surreal this movie was, I’m just gonna pretend it was apart of Ducky & Bunny’s imagination.

[@KgEclispe252]

This is officially my headcanon xD

[@NigelLam375]

the scene where zurg says "it's zurgin time" along with buzz saying "it's buzzing time" really made this movie more impactful than it should've!!!

[@FFKonoko]

oh no not again

[@jasonguarnieri4127]

The scene when Sox says "it's Soxxin' time", I felt that

[@PK-Radio]

I like the part where Zurg was like “it’s time to go zurg mode” and then zurg’d

[@miketrapper0464]

This is not morbius nothing will ever be morbius, schaff should review morbius

[@lukegavin124]

Ok unpopular opinion here but it's just not funny anymore

[@funnyvideoguy3216]

To be fair I can relate to buzz in the whole "fixing a mistake that no one really cares about but me" thing

[@squidsurge71]

I really agree. If I, like, break a glass, no one in my family cares, but I am super stressed and depressed for the rest of the day

[@joelmole3157]

And I think his arc was learning to let go of his guilt.

[@lylelylecrocodile2538]

I can totally relate to that

[@wdcain1]

Starting out as a perfectionist and learning to relax could mirror toy Buzz in the first movie. It would even fit with Zurg since as a robot, he would want things to be perfect too.

[@user-lr1rt3sz9u]

he was greatly relatable

[@mikahlameman5897]

my biggest problem of this movie is how Buzz learns everyone loves the life on the planet and they don't really need to leave, then later in the movie he learns he hasn't actually been living because he dedicated his life to the mission but still continues to do missions at the end. I wish they would've shown him start to make a life than continuing being a space ranger

[@josh_jacobb]

Well the difference is that he's no longer fixated on finishing missions to the point that he stops caring about everyone and everything around him. When he and his team start their next mission at the end, he doesn't take it as seriously and is happy that he has friends that care about him and he can rely on - an indicator of his development into a truly heroic space ranger.

[@danshakulawrence983]

I was COMPLETELY expecting this to be Pixar's most ambitious project yet. Normally whenever they start something, they research their inspiration HEAVILY so they know what they're doing. I thought this would've been an extremely interesting process because they would not only have to research Buzz Lightyear as a character that THEY created, but then dig even deeper and discover that inspiration that created the Buzz character. Basically, I was expecting this to culminate in what most people were expecting: A huge, well-written 90s sci-fi parody that goes well with the caricature that we see in the Toy Story movies. But... no. I didn't feel like this was the same Buzz Lightyear that the toy was based off of. To be honest, there were some things that I liked from this movie. But in terms of living up to the legacy of Buzz Lightyear, Space Ranger of Star Command... it didn't really do that. Oh well. Time to find where to watch Buzz Lightyear of Star Command.

[@averageboi]

If you ever find out which streaming service it's on, please let me know; I really wanna watch that show now

[@ransacked]

@@averageboi watch it on kisscartoon dude. Why would you pay a streaming service to watch it...

[@ransacked]

Kisscartoon, WCO and other cartoon websites.

[@lonebattledroid4474]

A lot of its free on KZbin

[@averageboi]

@@lonebattledroid4474 oh, sick! Thanks!

[@zanethezaniest274]

I was really hoping the end of the movie would somehow connect to the old Buzz cartoon like in the third act he meets this galactic org of space rangers that help him slightly and he ends up joining them. And since his space colony friends seem to be vibing, he could feel contempt on leaving them, they seemed pretty indifferent on whether the mission would succeed or fail. Buzz could end up carving his own path and finally help people that actually need it.

[@Quincy_Morris]

Disney respecting established canon? That really would be them going to infinity and beyond.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

Bruh Disney is trying so hard to ignore the existance of the Og Buzz movie

[@the-NITRON]

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 not Disney, Pixar themselves. If they don't acknowledge the cartoon's existence, Disney won't either. And we won't get to see the star command series on disney+ any time soon because apparently there would be A LOT of paperwork involved with using their previous television division. At least all of it in on youtube

[@lightningprince2134]

Damn that sounds great.

[@legoroan9866]

SPOILERS I mean, he starts up a new space ranger group at the end sooo it kinda does. Granted they aren’t the same crew but he coklr meet them later.

[@ClancyTwoThirtyEight]

The funny thing is that Turning Red WAS supposed to be in theaters but Disney just said "eehhhhh throw it on to Disney+ instead". I mean, I'm fine with that, but I really, REALLY wanted to have a reason to see a movie on the big screen again bc I actually worked at a movie theater and I just kept seeing that poster every day and I kept saying 'funny red panda' because it looked really interesting to me. I haven't watched Lightyear yet, but I feel like I don't really have a push to see it. It's also strange that pretty much all the ads I was spammed with about the movie had Buzz lamenting on the fact that they're all stranded on "this planet" because of him, but to hear that all the people that were on the planet weren't really affected just kinda soured my expectations because THAT WAS THE ONLY DAMN THING I HEARD OUT OF BUZZ'S MOUTH FOR THE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF ADS I WAS SPAMMED WITH ON KZbin. I feel like for this to be a more compelling movie, Zurg should've had a bigger focus and honestly one idea I had for maybe giving everyone a reason to be angry at Buzz for stranding them on "this planet" is what if Buzz was pursuing Zurg for a personal stake and he took a big risk to take him down by jeopardizing his crew. That would certainly make the dynamic a little more fleshed out as now his crew has mistrust for Buzz and doubts if he's able to fix everything. You could even leave Buzz's reason for trying to go after Zurg as a bit of a secret so it makes his inner struggle more interesting to watch as you wonder why he has this motivation and why he was willing to even let his crew potentially die for his own personal gain. I don't know. Maybe the scenario I just gave entirely wrecked Buzz's character, so I'm not sure if it should be a thing or not. Take my opinions with a huge handful of salt because I haven't seen it.

[@staringcorgi6475]

Love it or hate it turning red deserved to be in theators more than this

[@Rifyy]

fInally, ItS heRe kzbin.info/www/bejne/honUlHufZ8uejqs

[@KazuhaEien]

Remember when we thought Turning Red was going to be a mediocre, forgettable, Illumination-tier flick and Lightyear was going to be a great, beautiful, and enjoyable film among the league of Soul and Inside Out? Well here we are, where Turning Red is a cute, enjoyable, and fun movie and Lightyear is a mostly disliked disappointment. FR though, I’m still super salty that Disney allowed Raya and Encanto to come to the theatres while Luca and Turning Red get sent direct to video. Like, why not give them and Soul theatrical re-releases? I swear to god, I hope Pixar doesn’t suffer the same fate as Blue Sky, even if it’s super unlikely to happen….

[@staringcorgi6475]

@@KazuhaEien that was going to happen in the mid 2000s when eisner was in control but iger fixed the relationship with jobs by buying his company

[@jacobthesomething]

u cant wreck his character anymore than this movie did tbh

[@unknown_limes]

I'm gonna always accept the idea that in-universe, the Buzz Lightyear toy Andy got was based off the Star Command show we got in the 00s, and this was nostalgia bait that came out decades later.

[@RavenStarMedia]

I remember hearing that the Star Command series is meant to be a spin-off of this movie, so maybe it was a case of "more popular spin-off" in the Toy Story universe?

[@kotobookie]

@@RavenStarMedia maybe this film is like the prequels....and the clone wars is star command. lmao

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

And Andy has become a angry nerd commenting about how this movie ruined his childhood.

[@FFKonoko]

yeah, other way around makes more sense. Star command spin off when it gets popular with kids like Andy. so Andy probably has more of a "wow, I almost forgot there was a live action movie before the cartoon"

[@odderoutlet]

The fact that Lightyear got to be in theaters before three original Pixar movies that were ultimately better than this just hurts

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

That's Disney's new Pixar policy: put original movies on Disney Plus for subscriber growth and release movies based on popular IP in theaters for money.

[@scricraft4764]

That's Disney for you

[@JinxTheLooneyToon915]

@@scricraft4764 Yup

[@i_likemen5614]

The scene where buzz says "I'm gonna buzz you" really made me feel. This is definitely the most movie of all time

[@befuhs]

agree

[@carsonfowler3182]

Disney already made a “movie that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy” back in 2000. Buzz Lightyear of Star Command is a really funny and cool 2D animated movie that 100% feels like a Saturday morning cartoon from the 80s

[@carlotta4th]

And there's also the animated tv show, too! (not nearly as good as the full length intro film, but still has some good parts).

[@nicolasriveros943]

they even start the film with THE TOYS WATCHING THE VHS of the film, so you even have that meta element in there.

[@jadencore]

It also doesn't make much sense either. Buzz was made to capitalise on the excitement around astronauts going to space, they even say as much in the second movie. Why can't he just be a creative astronaut toy?

[@digishade7583]

Yeah I remember having that movie on VHS and I would watch it constantly

[@nickpels5772]

I haven't seen this yet, but the fact that this fictional movie came out in 1995 and doesn't seem anything like a 90's movie really bothers me.

[@spongemaster]

That fact alone makes me convinced that they had no idea what they were doing and solely made this film because of the name recognition. Its strange because you'd think they'd lean heavily into the whole 90s nostalgia angle as that seems to be current trend.

[@Chosen1Creator]

It might have made more sense if this were a modern "live action" adaptation that Andy sees as an adult with his own kid. Kinda like how Michael Bay's Transformers was a modern version of the classic cartoons. It would explain why the personalities and looks are so different between old and modern Buzz.

[@the_prado]

I will never forgive Disney to not release Turning Red instead in cinemas, it would have been a much better payoff

[@alejandrovelez6358]

IKR. Like dump a flawless but phenomenal masterpiece of a Pixar original movie like Turning Red to Disney+, yet they send a movie of an existing franchise to theaters to force bad diversity into the movie. Goes to show that Disney doesn’t want to stop living in the past and try new things, because they think those new movies will bomb, but look where they got themselves into.😐😑 I will cut the Pixar executives some slack tho. This movie feels like it was forced by Disney to not let Pixar release entirely new original movies into the theaters which’s very sad. 😞

[@MiximumDennis]

In some countries it was in cinema

[@mainstreetsaint36]

I enjoyed Lightyear a lot, but I'm still bummed that Turning Red was made streaming only.

[@redpanda6497]

Yes!

[@the_honored_one_06]

But they didn't talk about 9/11 so it's a bad movie obviously/s

[@kingsleycy3450]

I could have sworn Pixar said this movie was about the astronaut that inspired the Buzz Lightyear toy. I wonder if it was in the similar situation as "Brave", where it was pitched as one thing, came out another.

[@birdboy16]

Out of curiosity, what WAS Brave’s original pitch?

[@GardenGD]

@@birdboy16 idk about the original pitch, but for the majority of the film-making progress the movie seemed to be about Merida's Struggle with societal norms. Then suddenly bears were introduced.

[@lonebattledroid4474]

@@birdboy16 eliquorice made a video about it.

[@seacliff217]

I got the same vibe as well. Either it changed direction partway into development, or it seemed like "A movie within the toy story universe" was too complicated for them to pitch.

[@Rurike]

Feel like the story has changed a number of times

[@aidancode]

The biggest problem with Lightyear is that it set up a lot of conflicts that could have been much more interesting. The fact that Buzz hardly gets any time to express concern about how he's wasting his time with his friends away... I feel like something similar to the beginning of Up, where the theme was just, "how did time pass so fast", would have been a good idea to explore more.

[@PeeperSnail]

While I agree it's ridiculous this is the return to theatres for Pixar, at the same time I can't really dislike the movie for that. Getting shafted by Disney for three movies in a row has been extensively reported to be extremely demoralizing to Pixar as a studio. The poor bastars aren't even represented in the Animator's Guild. Good for them for finally seeing the light of day again.

[@g.d.graham2446]

Agreed

[@g.d.graham2446]

Amen to that

[@ThemeParkAvenue]

I must say, animation in 1995 looked really good if this is Andy’s favorite movie from 1995.

[@cheatsykoopa98]

I think its meant to be "live action" in toy story universe, like star wars is to us

[@Meatfrequency]

I think it’s supposed to be live-action within the toy story universe, but yeah the special effects would be mind boggling for that time

[@olleselin]

Insane

[@AwesmFilms]

I had an idea after leaving the movie that what if an animation studio made a movie that was stylized to look like 80s and 90s movies. I’m thinking recreating the “crappy” looking Sith lightning in the medium of 3D animation. I think it’d be cool to have an entire animated movie with modern technology seeking to imitate decades old effects

[@kingsleycy3450]

Should have framed it as a reboot of a franchise Andy used to like. That way we could at least imagined Andy's raged reaction.

[@nathanielwindsor7679]

I'm not sure why pixar thought it would be a good idea to have a movie about a SPACE ranger who flies a SPACEship and fights an evil SPACE emperor and his SPACE minions across SPACE take place entirely on one planet and have the entire story be about him trying to leave that one planet

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

LOL Even the average Star Wars movie has the cast of characters hopping around from one planet to another casually.

[@LordReskiy]

That's not so crazy. A police officer can get kidnapped, no?

[@casetech2793]

Honestly in my head canon, I think the movie Andy went to see that inspired him to get a Buzz toy was Buzz Lightyear Star Command.

[@johnnygallagher5718]

The Adventure Begins.

[@GrievousReborn]

I think originally was supposed to be that way but they had to retcon it just so they could make this movie

[@RavenStarMedia]

I remember hearing that in-universe-wise, Buzz Lightyear of Star Command was a spin-off of Lightyear. So maybe Lightyear was live-action for Andy, then the cartoon came out and made Buzz even more popular and then he wanted the toy?

[@maxkennedy7430]

Yes! Star Command tv show is proper brilliant and slaps very hard!

[@amarikristopher8409]

Bless you for remembering that movie/show 🙏🏾💙

[@reservoir4798]

Honestly I enjoyed this movie and the first 15 minutes is the best part to me. The way Buzz loses himself zipping through time is just so gripping for me and seeing his partner die fulfilled with life while Buzz stays trapped in his own delusions is really nice to me. The rest of the movie was fun but it was super fast paced

[@weavilefrost7034]

Good lord thank you someone else that likes it. Seriously, I've talked with my partner (we saw it together and we adore it), and literally we feel the entire reason for people complaining is that's it's a lightyear movie. That's it. I personally like to call it Pixar's Interstellar.

[@mangaprofilepicture5820]

@@weavilefrost7034 -i think schaf already went over those points in this video. thats not to say that you’re not allowed to like it, but valid points of criticism can still be made about the movie-

[@TheRandCrews]

Yeah they should’ve prolonged it abit cause the fast pacing made the reflection of each character made it a bit too fast to get over it or accept their shortcomings.

[@TheDramacist]

Spoilers

[@dcbandit]

I loved it myself, and I really don't understand why people don't like it. I think the idea was to make it like a live action sci fi from something like Universal, rather than a traditional Pixar film, and I don't think the toy is based on the movie, but the spin off cartoon series loosely inspired by the movie (along those lines). Or maybe it is a live action adaptation of a video game? We know a Buzz Lightyear video game exists in the toy story universe, what if the movie and the cartoon are both based on that? Like with Sonic the Hedgehog.

[@ErichoTTA]

The creators said Sox toys outsold Buzz Lightyear toys in the "Toy Story" universe and Andy's mom just couldn't find a Sox toy.

[@It_Is_Oylenox]

Makes sense to me

[@goiabexp]

But wouldn't Buzz be worried about Sox when he still thought he was a real Space Ranger?

[@jakethedragonymaster1235]

In the 10 years Andy had Buzz in until the events of the third movie, he never found one?

[@PXLFrosty84]

@@goiabexp they’re making an excuse for making up new characters

[@sonicfan9144]

Well no wonder the entire Buzz Lightyear aisle in Al’s Toy Barn was filled to the brim with Buzz’s instead of Sox toys.

[@aidenp6001]

Y’now, even if it doesn’t turn out to be good, I would like to see Pixar try their hands at a “Woody’s Roundup” show on Disney+, not presented as new content, like this movie, but rather as old archived footage of the original tv show, complete with black-and-white color scheme and marionettes. And even if they never intended to resolve the cliffhanger left when the series was originally cancelled, I’m kinda curious to see them try. Anyone else agree?

[@antusFireNova]

That sounds fun

[@kaspianepps7946]

Actually would be hilarious if they didn't resolve the cliffhanger and just stopped at the canon final episode.

[@BILLCIPHER8]

Heard that they are making a movie for woody actually. Don't know if it's gonna be good or not.

[@bradleyhauertheedtruncanfa5020]

That Woody's Roundup show sounds very fun. I would love to see Stinky Pete again. Also, we need Waternoose to appear in Monsters at Work Season 2, please, Disney, WE WANT WATERNOOSE!

[@yugiohgames104]

Jim Hanks can voice Woody. Tom was great but I think we should let Jim do it.

[@compatriot852]

Lightyear feels like a movie equivalent of a side quest in a video game

[@MartianManHunter2258]

@chhah go away

[@hajilee4539]

@its Time Shut the ever loving heck up.

[@horricule451]

That's an insult to games like fallout new vegas whose sidequests are better than the entirety of this movie

[@Hutch2Much]

this movie had a lot of funny and heartfelt moments, but the pacing was just so _weird_

[@falcon8105]

The runtime for this movie felt standard and could have been longer but the pacing made it quick, without answering some questions

[@josemelicoff]

You mean... the spacing? Ha...

[@HydraSpectre1138]

The Cat Returns does a much better job at the whole “in universe story spinoff” idea. It’s basically the story (or one of the stories) Shizuku wrote after the events of Whisper of the Heart.

[@toucoon]

Oh wow, someone knows this film exists? Genuinely love The Cat Returns, while everyone sees it as mediocre, you just reminded me of it.

[@itspeachiie]

yesss i love that movie sm!

[@beyondt9800]

Ghiblifest here in North America just occurred and lo and behold the Cat Returns was the film this session. Watched it and Lightyear one day after each other, The Cat Returns is so much better. It’s kind of cheesy, but the film is genuine and feels like a proper structured enjoyable kids film. For what it is, it’s executed nye perfectly. Lightyear tries to be this grand thoughtful epic that doesn’t succeed or execute well enough on all its ambitions. This makes the film disappointing and unsatisfying. I’m not mad at the films existence, even though I don’t like the ending. I just know this film could have been incredible had the concept been better fulfilled.

[@jomama5406]

Probably saw this movie 100 times as a kid hard to believe it was barely over an hour long and told a great and complete story

[@KazuhaEien]

I watched The Cat Returns this year with my friends and I found it cool and funny. I remember me, my friend, and my mom happily laughing at the part where the cats were walking down the street to her house, like, 20 minutes into the movie. The parts where the girl turned into an anthro cat and when the cat she saved from the truck stood on two and formally thanked her were also funny. 😄

[@stephankarakezi9866]

My Problems With Lightyear: 1. For the most part all of the characters were weak and annoying (mainly looking at you “pen guy” and old lady). The Only character that I liked was Sox but let’s be honest he was made to sell toys and is used as a get out jail free card for numerous times in the plot that it becomes laughable 2. Weak story for a Pixar movie. I found myself checking my watch throughout the second half of the move waiting for it to end. As an animated kids movie, it’s fine. But this is Pixar which for the most part has had a high standard of storytelling. I should be left thinking about aspects of the movie and how they may or may not have deeper meanings; not rolling my eyes every few minutes because the dorky sidekick has a pen. 3. The villain (spoilers) - I somewhat understand what they were trying to do with future Buzz being the main antagonist Zurg. But I feel that it went out of its way to do this when the prior source material has already stated that Zurg is an evil emperor of an alien/robot race. Not to mention that the movie completely doesn’t provide any explanation to how older Buzz gets this advanced technology other than “I’m borrowing it” - that’s just lazy writing. After a fun conversation with a friend of mine after the film, we brainstormed and came up with a better villain that I feel is more compelling and told a better story. Bonus: Fixing the Villain (after a few drinks). Keep Zurg and the robot Army but introduce a new element - Commander Burnside. It is well stated that Burnside wants to go full force with his Lazer shield when he steps into power. Of course Buzz doesn’t trust Burnside when he comes back from trial to see that his best friend has passed away and replaced by Burnside who clearly doesn’t hold the same values as Buzz leading him to go against orders and try one last mission himself. For the 20 years that Buzz was gone on his successful trial, Burnside could have been pulling strings to make his lazer dream a reality. However, most of the citizens of the base did not think the same way as Burnside and threw his idea aside many times (reminds me of a certain barrier that one political leader was very found of…). This leads to Burnside conducting a secret project to create a robot army which will pretend to attack the base with intent to harm all that stand in their way. When people see the “threat” the robots face, they completely change sides and support the Lazer Shield idea. HOWEVER, like most science fiction properties that use robots, Burnsides new army develop enhanced intelligence and turn on him and go on creating a more advanced civilization and even creating more advanced such as their Evil Emperor Zurg. This could all revealed in the third act with Buzz finding out the horrible truth at the parts depot and when going to confront Burnside, he could show remorse for his actions. Something along the lines of “I didn’t mean for things to go this far. I only did it to protect our people, they wouldn’t listen to me and this was the only way to show them this was what we needed”, etc. This being somewhat of a commentary on how using fear in a position of power on those you are supposed to be leading to ultimately get what you want isn’t sustainable and typically leads to even more problems and division (something that both sides of the political landscape do and as a result successfully turn us against each other to gain the upper hand in “public opinions”). Burnside could then learn from the error in his ways and help Buzz and his friends find a way to stop the robots in the climax of the film. In my opinion this would have been way more affective and would also tie in to any future movies/properties they would plan to make while also keeping Buzz Lightyear Cannon (if that even is a thing?). They obviously want to do more with this film seeing that it had post credit scenes with the last one showing that Zurg (old Buzz) is still alive. Anyways, thanks for reading and let me know what you think of my idea :)

[@Graylikethecolornotgrace]

I like your third act idea. I think that's the problem with a lot of movies honestly, the third act falls apart so fast because they either try too hard to make the twist or there's just not enough build up.

[@SuperMechSonic]

Pen guy and the old lady were only there for "haha funny goofy ahh" When literally no one in the theater laughed at them

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

So in General this movie is boring,bland and souless

[@frosty2x798]

Bro this vid just came out why do u have a paragraph written

[@aadipie]

I like your third act a lot, really nice take

[@PhoxphorusKitKat]

The big issue I have with the movie is how it felt like characterization happened too quickly if that makes sense. Like when Buzz met the group of misfits, it feels like he went from distant to a team too quickly. Same with his change of heart at the villain monologue scene. The change in heart feels too sudden to me. Above all else tho, I think it was enjoyable. I think I loved the nostalgia pandering maybe a little too much.

[@AnimatedTerror]

The film was to me, ok. Too often are we seemingly skewed towards either total love or total hate when it comes to our criticisms. We sometimes forget that a film can just be, ok. Mediocre. Nothing special, not terrible. But not amazing. Middle of the road. It did not offend me or my tastes. Nor did it inspire me and leave me thinking about it after. I’d put it on in the background as white noise. It was fine.

[@Yoshinator]

Yep, the $200 million equivalent of white noise. That's how I love my movies.

[@Kevo6492]

I dunno I think there's been more acknowledgement that spectularly bad films aren't as common these days because there's a baseline competance that's acheieved with filmmaking that produces medicore films.

[@willmungas8964]

It was pretty and had some action. Good to just watch without super analyzing it, because if you do things get a little crazy fast.

[@motherplayer]

True, but there is also the logic of how the worst thing something can be is okay. At least being really good or bad can elicit some kind of response, but just being okay, especially at spending 200 Million when there are movies that evoke something good or bad at a 10th of that, is worth considering.

[@Antasma1]

Pretty underwhelming considering the premise and marketing

[@JFtheLOLZOR]

it’s a little odd that of Pixar’s last few movies, including a fun romp through Italy and a thought-provoking and existential movie, they chose to release a just okay spin-off to Toy Story in theaters if Elemental is pushed to Disney+, we’ll know what Disney prioritises more

[@motherplayer]

Not odd. By all accounts, everything about this movie should at the very least have a better built in audience and promotions, given the ties and all. And yet, somehow that still couldn't help. It's one thing being an original property that doesn't catch on, it's entirely another when you've got the built-in potential audience.

[@voltzxd530]

Wait existential movie I forgot which movie was that

[@redpanda6497]

@@voltzxd530 Soul.

[@kaitoh4047]

@@voltzxd530 that would be “Soul”

[@sketchyjulia]

Cause Brand recognition

[@briannarigdon65]

Lightyear really struck me as a script that existed already, and wanted to be it's own story, but got hitched to the Toy Story wagon and replaced elements of the story and specifically the main character to make it a brand extension. Or like you said, they started with the brand extension first and then tried to stick a story around it, which is a shame since Buzz Lightyear of Star Command already existed as a brand extension and was WAY more fun than Lightyear. Even if the story wasn't A+ on that show, it was just fun, which can take something flawed a much longer way than something with heavier tones

[@trinaq]

Hasn't this premise technically already been done in "Buzz Lightyear of Star Command", that TV show from the early 2000's? It was arguably done so much better there!

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

It was cheesy,charming and awesome something this movie lacked

[@Undomaranel]

The Disney Execs hate the show though. I haven't met a single person who dislikes it, and honestly Mira was Ahsoka before Ahsoka. But they refuse to put it out for sale or reruns because they didn't get their way with the show, there's some adult humor in it that wouldn't fly today, etc. But I agree, we already got the movie Buzz Lightyear of Star Command, we got an amazingly sarcastic cartoon series, and now they rebooted it with a talking cat robot and pointless romance when it's an action series smh.

[@dariusmcclain5584]

@@Undomaranel In RebelTaxi’s review of the movie he mentions how the TV Series is partially owned by Viacom, so that’s probably why they refuse to acknowledge its existence now

[@ferminmarkpousada1455]

Some Pixar staff disown that creation. Tho, the director said the tv movie and the show would be created after three movies of Lightyear in the Toy Story universe

[@bigboi5545]

@@Undomaranel Disney's refusal to acknowledge Star Command's existence is primarily due to legal issues surrounding it. Viacom (Paramount) is believed to own some rights.

[@toanuva6178]

What’s weird about the framing device, is that it was already done before with that TV show that Pixar apparently wants to forget for some reason despite the show being a banger

[@jacobnitti906]

phraming?

[@funtimemarioman]

Headcanon- the tv show is the in-universe version of the clone wars tv show where people think the show is better than the movie

[@maverickdarkrath4780]

just exes being jealous a B team made something just as good as there A team

[@guilhermeteodosio40]

Me and my friends watched this movie on theater and we had an absolutely blast with this movie. We found it so entertaining, every character (besides pen guy) made us laugh and the future Buzz twist was so BAD that it was honestly kind of hilarious. Overall, 8/10 worth watching with your friends!

[@QuintaFeira12]

I mean, me and my friends also like Meg, but we'd be pretty fucking stupid to rate it any higher than 2/10. "with friends" is a really poor metric most of the time.

[@guilhermeteodosio40]

@@QuintaFeira12 "2/10" reads as "boring" or "unfunny" for me, I'd never rate an ironically entertaining movie below 3/10

[@g.d.graham2446]

Agreed

[@IrishBoy317]

I think the movie was way better than everyone else thinks

[@falcon8105]

@@guilhermeteodosio40 same here, I was originally gonna rate this movie as 7.5/10 but after just watching it, I think it's a 6.5/10. It's watchable but they really needed to make a proper structure to the story

[@yellowtitan6040]

I didn't mind the villain too much. SPOILERS I mean he literally has shot through time past everyone he knew. He has no friends. He just has his mission as a space ranger. Especially once he starts traveling back through time, he literally has no identity outside of fixing his mistake and finishing the job. I get that he could've let go eventually, but it's not hard to imagine him letting it consume his entire life too, especially after he's gone so far.

[@ladypool1404]

Your right but using an armor, controlling robots and changing his name is weird :S Why would Buzz do that? It won't help him to complete his mission. I doubt the robots would make him less depressed or lonely either; they don't talk much and doesn't seams to have emotions. At least Buzz got Sox so he's not entirely alone. I'm surprised the robot cat didn't comfort him or make him realise that what he's doing is wrong! Maybe the cat tries and fails cause Buzz is stubborn and crazy?

[@theresarodriguez5413]

@@noahmarkow867 I was thinking of the Lego Movie 2

[@friendlyelites]

the problem is the movie establishes that what he's doing in the current timeline isn't actually affecting him, so Buzz could've just let him leave with the fuel because by the movie's time travel logic it wouldn't matter

[@kaspianepps7946]

@@ladypool1404 His mission was to get everyone where they were initially going (iirc the original intended destination isn't clear). Zerg has decided to go back to before the original accident and prevent it - which would allow the original passengers to reach their destination. But to do that he needs main Buzz's hyperfuel, and the armour and robots help with that. Human beings will talk to inanimate objects - even when other people are present. If you were isolated from all other humans and talking to robots whose main response was to mispronounce your name, you may very well just go with their pronunciation. Sox was shown to be ineffective from the start. He was supposed to help Buzz come to terms with the fact that the hyperfuel project had been suspended - he very obviously failed at that. When Buzz told him to do calculations to find the correct ratios for hyperfuel Sox just did what he was told - he didn't try to change Buzz's mind about that being a good course of action.

[@yderga8707]

@@ladypool1404 They explained the reason he was called Zurg was that the robots couldn't pronounce "Buzz" which i felt was just as stupid of an excuse as not having one at all

[@Scorponox93]

My biggest issue is how Buzz literally spent the whole first 2 arcs of the movie talking about "finishing the mission" and then again in the third act. And we never even know what the mission is! He only slightly hints at it in the intro by saying "take these people home" or something, but that completely nullifies everything else in the movie basically? First, why are they exploring some planet and assessing habitability if their passengers already have a "home", and then, once the commander has had a son and grows up there's already an entire generation of people who are home, and then literally all the people who weren't "home" are dead anyway. Even when the movie addresses this, it only barely scratches the surface. And then the fricking crystal, the whole point of the cat "fixing" the crystal was to avoid time dilation, and yet his crystal doesn't actually do that. We also never even touch on why the cat was able to solve the formula in 67 years but the robots and scientists working on the actual rockets don't. Literally nothing in the script makes sense, it's just scenes to move the plot to other scenes to move the plot to other scenes....

[@Nightman221k]

Great points. I also thought another point that made no sense was Zurg’s origin. Multiverse/Time-travel is difficult enough to understand but they glossed over it in such a lazy way that I have no clue what they were going for. It was like they wanted to copy Up’s villain but didn’t care how to make it work.

[@Poefred]

@@JasonTodd-RedHood-GothamKnight That seems to be a lot of the critique with this movie. A whole lot of people seemingly intentionally missing the point and answering their own question in their explanation. It lulls a bit in the middle with the kinda generic beginner squad but it was generally pretty decent I thought.

[@games_on_phone89]

you literally answered your own question, chucklenuts; the mission IS to take everybody home it's not that the script doesn't makes sense, it's that you either didn't pay attention or are intentionally ignoring the main fucking plot point that's beaten over god knows how many times just to shit in the movie, both possibilities leave you looking dumb

[@lmproductions183]

You literally just answered your own question

[@joshuakim5240]

@@JasonTodd-RedHood-GothamKnight The thing that i don't understand about Zurg is how his mission turned him into Zurg at all from the baseline character he transforms from. He wasn't portrayed as someone obsessive enough with enough of a grudge to become Zurg in any capacity, which is ironic since those traits if present would have made for a much more interesting protagonist and antagonist in a much more thematically fitting way too. He's so salty that everyone else moved on but him that he became a galactic warlord of destruction? I feel like there are several much easier and sensible reasons in the exact same setting that could result in the same Zurg but less stupidly and pettily so. What if he found out that Star Command was lying about returning home being possible at all and regularly sacrifices people to keep up the illusion as a way to retain power, and that made him hate Star Command enough to want to topple it and become Zurg with a robot army to do so? It would have also fit into the thematic concept of moving on, since Zurg's inability to forgive and forget injustices would make him the ultimate culmination of those flaws.

[@Fan-imator]

The pen joke that you brought up was also like Benny in the Lego Movie wanting to make a “SPACESHIP”

[@n19ntendods]

Oh, yeah! In that movie, the joke actually works, but Benny himself enthusiastically recommends he can build a spaceship for the final time and the right time.

[@Fan-imator]

@@n19ntendods yeah, for most younger kids (and me) thats Benny's best moment ever, he doesn't do enough in the sequel honestly

[@edgarleft]

interesting question, is Lightyear an animated movie, or live-action from Andy's perspective?

[@wallyhackenslacker]

IIRC either the producer or the director stated that from Andy's perspective it would be live-action.

[@bfp909]

I think it’s def a live action, I remember it was mentioned somewhere by Pixar

[@ThePrince-p9b]

Bro I was just thinking that

[@Stage-Fryte]

There is one thing you missed that I loved. The landscapes are AMAZING. I'm a sucker for 3D renders so I'm definitely Biased, but I didn't even notice the issues with the story because the whole time I was thinking: "Yep, this is one the best looking movies I've seen in a hot minute."

[@zapatocryz5866]

Blah

[@Stage-Fryte]

@oogaBooga That’s fair, I’m not saying the movie is good, I’m just pointing out something I found enjoyable about the film that schaff didn’t really talk about.

[@wallyhackenslacker]

That's pretty much a Pixar staple. I see you, to me the best part of The Good Dinosaur, as forgettable as it was, was the majestic landscape renders.

[@Anasuper1850]

they were gorgeous indeed but i spent the whole movie thinking i already saw those in star wars

[@armorend1334]

I'm not going to go see it, but just watching this review, all I could think was "holy shit the lighting effects. Even the lights on the buttons glow!" It looks really cool. Again, not "theatre ticket + popcorn + drink" cool, or even "free trial Disney+ to watch eventually" cool, but... Cool.

[@ichigowayix8924]

I think another thing worth mentioning about the film is how often the supporting characters emphazise that Buzz should embrace teamwork. It reminded me a lot of Raya and The Last Dragon, where it seems like every 5 to 10 minutes the film needs to remind you what the moral of the story is. It could've been handled a lot more subtly, and (in my opinion), it would've been nice to see Buzz undergo a similar arc as Woody or Lightning McQueen in the first installment of their franchises, where the transition from who they are in the first act to who they are in the third act is much smoother and well-blended into the story.

[@hello_bye708]

If I were cowboy obsessed Andy living in 1995 and went to see this movie. I would be so bored out of my mind and stick with cowboys. Now if we’re talking the Buzzlightyear animated series of the early naughts, that’s a whole other animal altogether.

[@Batterskull]

It’s a real shame because after how Buzz was treated in Toy Story 4 I was really looking forward to seeing a solo outing focused on him.

[@dislecsyk991]

When I saw the trailer, I expected it to be the story a child imagined whilst playing with their toys. The robot cat just seemed so out of place, I expected it to be a random toy that the child was using to be an extra character whilst playing. Feels quite boring to think that it's actually a movie within a movie. And it's rubbish that it doesn't fit. And that it's bad.

[@KazuhaEien]

This movie would be a lot cooler if it was a story a kid made up with their toys.

[@CapitanJorge24]

THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT OF TOO i imagined that it could be that the story is actually just smth andy did with his toys as a kid and it would've been shown by the end of the movie

[@ShonkTeHonktalks]

Man, this sure is one of the Pixar movies of all time. With one of the Voice Acting in history

[@MrFancyDragon]

Stop the morbius memes

[@lizardlord4k]

I loved Lightyear. The part when he went its Morbin time and morbed all over the place was the best.

[@Antasma1]

I think you're thinking of Doctor Strange

[@mainstreetsaint36]

@@Antasma1 Not, it was No Way Home!

[@julianensor4416]

Apparently people have been saying that the Zurg in this film isn't the real one, and that the suit belonged to something or someone else. If there is any validity to it, than maybe the post-credit scene hinted to us that the real Zurg is still out there.... plotting.

[@wesleyem3]

The Zurg reveal was just... Ugh. Literally the LAMEST villain reveal of all time. Just an old Buzz Lightyear from a different timeline. How lazy can you be to create a villain, hype him up in the trailers, just for it to be that? And I feel like there was a massive missed opportunity to explore how this evil Buzz truly came to hate Star Command. Show the Space Rangers becoming more and more frustrated with Buzz becoming so tunnel-visioned on his mission to return home. Have people confront him and make him more determined by sheer ignorance and spite. At least then I could MAYBE buy this villain's motivation.

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

Exactly, the trailers showed me how cool Zurg's design looks but what the movie did to his character is just a massive letdown.

[@spongemaster]

Not to mention The Lego Movie 2 already did this same exact concept in a much better way three years prior.

[@uglybad4]

@@spongemaster for real, my dense ass didn't even clue into the fact that Rex was also voiced by Chris Pratt and the reveal actually got me good lol

[@legoreddead]

@@spongemaster yeah it was so good in there

[@Cheerwine091]

My perspective is that Zurg’s motives aren’t the point. He can’t just “get over it” because his entire life was dedicated to one thing, and when he succeeded, he nearly got arrested. Spoilers ahead Zurg being Buzz was an interesting idea. And as for why he can’t let it go, he was trained all his life under one phrase: “Finish the mission”. It’s kinda hard to let that go when you don’t get the realization that Not-Zurg Buzz got, which is that life on the planet was worth living, not just abandoning. That line of “Everyone lived a life on this planet… except for us.” Actually hit with me decently hard. The movie isn’t amazing, but it’s not the worst. The pacing was a major problem, but honestly, I don’t mind that. It’s jokes didn’t always land, but I thought the pen gag’s climax was well executed.

[@sweetdreams1028]

I'm very happy to hear you admit you were too harsh on Turning Red, I really agree with you on this film. Sox was amazing and my audience in the theater actually all gasped as he almost fell into space. And I did really like Sox helping Izzy during her most anxious part in the film. But yeah Zurg was just *sigh*. Seriously? Why couldn't he be Buzz's father, like that reference in Toy Story 2? I really loved the first twenty minutes of it but the rest of it (aside from Sox) felt really lacking.

[@ateniet]

You've described my opinion on this movie perfectly.

[@zachnoland155]

I think you've missed a point here: yes no one ever expresses disappointment with buzz over his mistake but they don't need to. Buzz is fixated on his mission for his own sake (to matter again) not others'. This is compounded by him never actually living on the planet and getting to see the lives his friends made for themselves. He just wasn't paying attention to anyone but himself

[@pinkajou656]

Yeah, that’s what I thought

[@santiagoacosta3372]

this movie would be so much cool if it was a 90s sci-fi parody, just like the original buzz lightyear

[@NinjaTyler]

Look for the original buzz light-year of star command movie/pilot and TV show, it's exactly what you're wanting, a Saturday morning campy sci-fi adventure with great comedy and action and bits of more mature content we appreciate as we get older like light horror and adult moments, plus Zurg is a balance of campy humor and menacing threat. Where it's clear only buzz and his crew can regularly defeat him so he's not incompetent since he leads a successful evil empire.

[@ricodvorsky3844]

I'm not gonna lie I really enjoyed this movie. It wasn't perfect but I was never bored and it was beautifully animated.

[@picklenik9658]

The Surfshark joke about Canada having it “too good for too long” is extra hilarious considering it’s that our Disney+ is literally better. For a year it’s had like 95% of Hulu content included at really no extra cost.

[@chiangkai-shrek1575]

Yeah, and Indian Disney+ has HBO Max content as well lol. It's funny to me that Luca and Succession are on the same streaming service

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

Haven’t watched it yet, but from the looks of it, this is just another one of those movies where people think the graphics alone are worthy of a 7/10.

[@katlyndobransky2419]

TLOU2 lmao

[@a17yearoldonyoutubeluigi]

Ok I watched it, and yeah, it sucked.

[@jakemurray4235]

this movie was so good. I absolutely loved the part where Zurg grabs Buzz with his inspector Gadget arm only to then say "its Zurgin time" and then proceeds to instant Transition the heck outa there back onto the ship. absolutely genius writing.

[@alonsorojas7885]

The early 2000's direct to VHS Buzz Lightyear movie is a masterpiece compared to this.

[@nerdsquid9951]

Its a masterpiece regardless

[@Graylikethecolornotgrace]

Can't say I'm really interested to see the movie. I will absolutely watch like 20 reviews for it though.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

The News around this movie are insane seriously this movie already got banned by 14 countries

[@daniellavaladez7820]

Same

[@Graylikethecolornotgrace]

@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 It w h a t

[@elirichard8331]

@@Graylikethecolornotgrace yh it got banned for having a gay kiss scene lol

[@Graylikethecolornotgrace]

@@elirichard8331 ohhhh yeah I forgot the gay kiss was a thing lol

[@SuperLuis225]

Feel they missed a trick by not having the ending be buzz waking up on Andys bed with woody introducing himself kicking off Buzz's mindset for the first toy story.... AH well

[@mxb3ar69]

That would’ve been dope

[@jacktoma21]

I feel like even as a kid, I’d be disappointed that this is what we got from a Buzz Lightyear movie

[@judiciousjayel]

I hope you do these video suggestions someday: . Tangled review . Top 10 Disney and Pixar Villains . Disney Remakes ranked . Illumination movies ranked . Chicken Little bad review

[@foxtoons1999]

I’d also like these: - Happy Feet review (teased in his ranking the animated Oscar winners video) - Dear Evan Hansen in depth review (teased in his short video on the movie) - PnF Across the 2nd Dimension review - reviewing the 3 SpongeBob movies

[@zonk1580]

He teased an illumination ranking in his blue sky ranking, sort of

[@TransformersBoss]

The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command tv series fills the role of “being the show Andy would’ve watched” much better.

[@GojimusPrime200]

Haven't seen the movie but considering how little we saw Zurg in the trailers, I wasn't expecting he would be in the movie for that much.

[@dehydratedwater90]

you compared the pen joke to a running bit from Bojack but what immediately came to my mind was Benny and his spaceeship from the LEGO movie and thinking about that gave me a laugh

[@snowy2747]

What's even funnier is that Sox has managed to be the most popular character from the film, so his lack of inclusion in past Toy Story movies just makes this film all the more incoherent to the Toy Story universe.

[@HelenaIsis616]

Honestly, the fact that this is the first Pixar movie that hit theaters since the plague, but not Turning Red or Luca…? I feel like Disney was really banking on nostalgia for Toy Story to work like gangbusters and so far…not really.🤷🏾‍♀️

[@abnormallylargemonkey9334]

Or trying to make more money

[@jessicagreenfield6584]

That's what I was thinking. I'd have loved to see Luca and turning red in theaters. Luca especially became my comfort film since it came out. It's sad that they probably released this in theaters just because it's technically a toy story film and to make more money :(

[@Labyrinth6000]

People are fine with the series, Pixar needs to let it go.

[@Aryam007]

Notice how he criticized the whole movie without mentioning the kissing scene. I just find it hilarious how people are saying it failed because of that one scene.

[@sammyboi12]

Seriously. Just stick with traditional. Don’t add a gay scene to purposefully make it controversial therefore getting more hype/talk.

[@quetsie0]

@@sammyboi12 that’s a bad take, they most likely didn’t add it to make it controversial, it was a harmless artistic vision during a time when same sex relationships are being demonized that was shot down by disney pixar so of course they would complain

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

@@quetsie0 I'm glad you are so reasonable.

[@spencermiller2032]

That’s because Schaff isn’t a cuckservative who freaks out over every little bit of representation.

[@Aryam007]

@@spencermiller2032 I hope cuckservative sticks on, I’ve been using it for a while now but no luck yet.

[@n19ntendods]

I’ll never get over the fact that Sox is voiced by Peter Sohn, who also played Emile the Rat and Scott “Smoothie” Squibbles.

[@DCT-tt8ib]

Thought that first teaser looked really promising, but as more trailers rolled out (And once the cat robot was shown off) it became more and more clear to me that this movie was gonna be really safe, generic, and/or mediocre.

[@turntprophet7960]

Yeah once I saw Sox, I lost all interest.

[@FFKonoko]

weird, I liked sox in the trailers. It was just off kilter seeming with some of its deadpan tone.

[@ghouliepops]

Turning Red definitely deserved a theatrical release over Lightyear. IMHO Lightyear is the first Pixar movie that really could’ve been released on Disney+ without it being missed on the big screen.

[@StarBeam500]

Honestly my worst problem with it was that it was too predictable, confusing, and forgettable. The only parts I can remember are the parts that were confusing. Like that whole time warp speed thing didn't really make sense, like, if your trying to go fast, why try something that takes you forward in time, therefore slowing down your speed for everyone else. Also they didn't realize it until after buzz skipped 4 years despite actually seeming to have known before then.

[@Awesomemay]

this felt like the most random pixar movie to come out, and probably the first pixar movie i wasn't really excited to see that being said its still better than i thought it would be

[@wespapes2054]

@Freesmart I think 4 is better. That movie is very personal for me as it came out when I was facing possibly the worst depression of my life. TS4 connected with so much that I do get a little defensive.

[@wespapes2054]

I was personally stoked to see it, and I had fun. Not amazing, but not truly awful. I plan on not only seeing it again but doing a video about at some point.

[@themoviecritic1092]

​@Freesmart Toy Story 4 gets too much hate imo

[@josiahtheawkward6008]

2:36 you basically described Charlie Day’s Benny Spaceship joke in the Lego Movie and now I wanna watch those movies again

[@Morfe02]

Why Buzz face is giant but the rest of characters are normal ? Disney knows they are making a film animated or a ULTRA realistic movie

[@TheHuskyK9]

If I had to describe Lightyear in one word, I’d say “average”. It wasn’t bad, but it wasn’t good. And was I the only one that thought the beginning was kinda lazy? They had to explain that this was the movie that Andy watched that inspired him to get a Buzz Lightyear toy, so how did they explain it? With white text that fades in and out that lasted about 10 seconds… Sox was the best character

[@sillygoosetaur]

ngl i just took the white text as a star wars type of thing

[@petros6013]

I have a hard time believing that Andy watched this movie and it made him want a Buzz Lightyear toy. Because I thought that Andy was into western and it wasn’t until he got Buzz that he started showing an interest in space.

[@Mr_bukowski4435]

Nice Dumbsville pfp

[@AnimatedCarl]

Andy was a child. I dunno about you, but even when I was crazy into one thing as a kid, that didn't mean I couldn't not be into something else. I loved Harry Potter and that was basically everything I wanted to do. When I started getting into Star Wars later on, I then also wanted a bunch of Star Wars toys and merchandise. For any complaints anyone has about this movie, it's beyond believable that a kid watched this movie and wanted a toy from it. Even in my theater there were a bunch of kids already asking their parents for a toy from it.

[@Poefred]

That logic doesn't even contradict anything. He watched a movie, wanted a toy from the movie, and as soon as he started getting merch from the movie he began getting more and more. The ties to the actual toy story universe are very flimsy but people really do be feeling the need to invent beef with this movie that isn't there.

[@floricel_112]

1:00 you're right. Buzz Lightyear of Star command is an amazing movie because of it. Unfortunately, we're not talking about it today

[@danielbland1951]

The 2000 2D animated movie was better. Didn't take itself too seriously yet still had better realised plot and character than this one. This movie copies the original a lot but failed especially with Zurg. Also there was no in built arm laser or jetpack which was what made the old one cool to me as a kid.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

Lol what? He DID have a arm laser in the movie, did you not see it at all?

[@danielbland1951]

@@Gadget-Walkmen Yeah but it's supposed to be in his glove right? Not the clunky thing they had.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@danielbland1951 it’s not a “glove” it’s his arm brace that has a laser on it. They have to make it look more “realistic” and functional-looking compared to it being on a toy buzz.

[@danielbland1951]

@@Gadget-Walkmen But it's a cartoon. Nothing else in the movie is realistic, like using a crystal to reach lightspeed so it doesn't really matter.

[@Gadget-Walkmen]

@@danielbland1951 it doesn’t have to “realistic” just a lot more functional in its more real art direction as all the tech as the look at least plausible In it’s sci-fi setting. And using a fictional crystal to reach light speed is a lot more plausible than not giving any explanation like in Star Wars. Lol

[@drunk_vampire]

See the thing is- If you saw it in theaters on the first day it came out, you could get an exclusive poster. The poster features an illustration of Andy at the movies with his toys. But i honestly feel like if would've been cool if they turned it into an end credits scene.

[@lmillard724]

i actually really enjoyed this film! and although i get that aspects of it were definitely cash-grabby, i feel like it’s important to remember that even though this should be enjoyable for the people who grew up watching the toy story films when they first came out, at the end of the day this is a film for kids now. and they’ll be way more familiar with modern sci fi films and tropes, so for them it’s probably super cool seeing buzz in that sort of setting! walking in, everyone knows that a large purpose of this film is to make more money from the toy story franchise, so that’s just a given. but i actually thought that looking past this aspect and the continuity errors that came with it (i.e. marketable characters that we never see in the original toy story films), it had a really good message about learning to forgive yourself and work with others! buzz’s criticism and guilt never comes from those around him, it’s always from himself and his own insecurity, which i think is a deliberate choice and something i know i can definitely relate to, and would’ve been able to relate to and understand had i watched this as a kid. so, tldr, yes i definitely agree that it could’ve been improved upon in some ways, and this video had some really interesting observations, but i really do think it was a pretty good and nostalgic film

[@FunkyKnightGames]

I agree! I justes watched it and really liked it. Ya, it wasn’t really what I was expecting but I liked buzz light years growth. It’s wasn’t really hero-y but I like it.

[@GDNashit]

Nuff said

[@g.d.graham2446]

Agreed

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Exceptnitnis not for kids alot of parerns hate it because it forces a talk the parent felt the kid wasn't ready for. In addition if this was the movie Andy saw it would be differebt. There is mo way thisnis made in the early ninties

[@lmillard724]

@@paulrasmussen8953 “a talk the kid wasn’t ready for” i can only assume is referring to the queer kiss. if kids aren’t ready to “talk about” or see that onscreen, then they shouldn’t be allowed to watch any films with straight romances in either. these points and arguments that kids shouldn’t see scenes like that at a young age only ever come up when it’s a gay relationship, because homophobes immediately sexualise anything queer. you can correct me if i’m wrong about what you were referring to, but if not please keep comments like that to yourself. onscreen representation for young queer people is important and that should not be a topic of discourse.

[@johnsmith651]

The Buzz Lightyear of Star Command cartoon does what this movie tries to do a lot better. It will always be the real Buzz Lightyear spin-off