Wish - Is It Good or Nah? (Disney Review)

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[@45darkrai]

From what I remember, there were original plans where both the King and Queen were meant to be evil together. Honestly, it would have been engaging with Disney to have an evil couple.

[@leroyjenkins1249]

Yep. Imagine a couple of the natures of Magnificient and The Horned King. Two evils who first fight together and then maybe fight each other. Two menaces both terrifying in their own right -Magic and Poison. Mind control and Control of Nature (or whatever else you could imagine). The entire movie just you bibbering at their shadows, with a Fantasia-style climax and happy ending.

[@axolotlfairy2473]

I have a big soft spot for the trope of “evil couple who are sappy and in love but still evil” so damn that would’ve been FUN

[@PuzzlePottage1390]

It's a shame to see how things played out as there were some very interesting ideas in Wish. King Magnifico had the potential to become a great Disney villain if the writers had just experimented with him a little more, especially given the implication that he's the original persona of the Magic Mirror from Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. The idea of the fate of a modern villain setting up the premise of the very first Disney film was an interesting concept for the centenary, but I just wish the script wasn't so fundamentally flawed. I could probably write a better story summary right here and now. In fact, here, let me do just that and you lot say if it sounds more interesting than the actual product we got: *AHEM* 'The Kingdom of Rosas is ruled by a seemingly benevolent king called Magnifico. However, he is in actuality an arrogant tyrant who hides his hubris in plain sight by using his prowess with magic to put on phony wish-granting ceremonies for his brainwashed subjects. The audience doesn't necessarily have to made aware of his evil nature straight away, but it has to be made obvious by at least the thirty minute mark rather than yet another last minute twist villain. Magnifico claims he will grant the wishes of a handful of individuals once a month, offering the opportunity to grant yours providing you willingly sacrifice your memory of it. His reasoning for this is that giving up your memory of the wish preventing any disappointment and potential unrest should it never be granted. Your memories will only return if either the wish is granted, or if you live long enough for Magnifico's magic to fade. However, you can always offer your remembered wish back to him for a second chance of it coming true. His lies work and his subjects adore him for his 'kindness'. However, the cost of giving up your memories for the chance of having your wish granted inadvertently creates a popular superstition throughout the kingdom: revealing your wish to someone else guarantees that it will never be granted. Meanwhile, Asha is a passionate seventeen-year-old girl who plans on wishing to become King Magnifico's apprentice once she turns eighteen. She wants this as she wants to try and help as many people achieve their own wishes as possible. Her desire only grew stronger after the recent passing of her grandfather at the age of one-hundred, his wish to inspire future generations sadly never being granted. His old age meant that he eventually regained his memory of the wish he had hoped Magnifico to grant, but due to his rapidly declining health, he thought it best not to bother offering it up again. When finally on his deathbed, he decided to ignore the infamous superstition of the kingdom and revealed the wish to his granddaughter, taking comfort in finally being able to tell someone else of his secret before passing away. So great is Asha's desire to help people like her late grandfather, she can't help but let her wish to also become public knowledge...even though it means she is now frequently told it will never come true. Asha is too stubborn to believe the superstition and believes Magnifico will grant it if she wishes hard enough. Eventually, her wish becomes so well-known in the local community that King Magnifico himself invites her to his castle, revealing that he's heard the rumours about her and agrees it's wise for him to start thinking about an apprentice. Asha asks why he doesn't simply wait one more year and grant the wish for her, but Magnifico claims being his apprentice is more than simply wishing for a title, so she'll need to prove to him that she has what it takes to one day succeed him. He claims to believe in the fundamentals of hard work and rewarding those who earn it, not simply those who ask for it. Asha asks if that's why her grandfather's wish was never granted, because he 'didn't deserve it', but Magnifico dismisses her by saying that wishes aren't special if everyone lives to see theirs come true. Although surprised at the dismissal, Asha remains respectful and agrees to Magnifico's proposal of training to become his apprentice. Things seem to be going well for a short while, and Magnifico shows her more and more of the wish-granting process, including his locked vault of bestowed wishes that only he may enter. If she succeeds in her training, she too will be granted access one day, but not a moment earlier. Later, Asha starts exploring the castle records and notices that all of the wishes that have been chosen over the years have all come back to benefit Magnifico in some way, such as allowing various previously ordinary subjects to wish for high positions who report back to the king (knights, advisors, tax collectors etc). The benefits to Magnifico started off relatively small at first, almost as if they were coincidental, but seem to have become more and more blatant with time. Not only do Magnifico's choices seem suspicious, but they seemingly contradict his previous concerns about people being granted titles without proving they deserve them or have what it takes to succeed. She goes to the forest to clear her head one night, which is when she meets Star (in his human form from the scrapped concept art). He says he was drawn to her as he's never known someone wish for something as hard as she does. When she reveals who she is and what Magnifico does, Star seems confused as that's not how the wishes work; he would know as he reveals that only his kind have the ability to grant wishes. Star proves what he says to be true by granting the goat the ability to speak (if he must), and this revelation causes Asha's suspicions of Magnifico to reach a crescendo. She decides to do the one thing she was told not to and enter the vault of bestowed wishes. She intends to see what other wishes Magnifico has denied in exchange for the ones he's granted, and now that she has a magical friend in Star, gaining access proves relatively simple. Once inside, she learns the horrible truth. Magnifico doesn't grant the wishes of his subjects. In reality, he uses his magic to steal the memories of those who offer up their wishes to him. He then replaces those memories with artificial ones of his own, allowing him to manipulate his own subjects into devoting themselves to him indefinitely. He's manipulated people into thinking that they wish to be his soldiers and his servants, that they wish to hold annual celebrations dedicated to him, that they wish to dedicate themselves to raising donations and preparing banquets for their beloved King Magnifico etc. Inside the vault is every wish Magnifico has collected over the years placed on its own pedestal, and each one is accompanied with an artificial one Magnifico intends to replace it with in due course. As the superstition about keeping your wish to yourself became more and more widespread, Magnifico realised he had an opportunity to grant increasingly bold wishes and claim them to be the deepest desires of his subjects. After all, the person having their 'wish granted' would have had their memory wiped, and everyone else would be ignorant to the truth as most believe in keeping their wishes to themselves out of fear of them never being granted. It seems as though Magnifico is even contemplating eventually using his magic to brainwash subjects into travelling across the seas and expand his own influence to other kingdoms. What horrifies Asha most of all is that she finds an empty pedestal with her name on it, and although that's because she's not yet bestowed a wish to him, Magnifico has already prepared a false memory for her. He really does intend for her to become his apprentice like he's been training her to, but he intends for her to become a willing participant in his schemes as it is becoming increasingly hard to keep the public ignorant to the truth the more wishes he grants. He needs someone he can rely on to help keep his secrets hidden forever. After Magnifco somehow realises that Asha has learnt the truth, he decides to silence her and her strange friend permanently. The pair go on the run whilst Magnifico holds a surprise wish-granting ceremony where he declares his intention of granting more wishes than ever before. Determined to kill Asha before she reveals what she knows, Magnifico takes off the gloves and claims that he has granted the wishes of all those who wanted to become his new group of loyalists dedicated to hunting down traitors such as Asha. He even brainwashes Asha's very own friends and family as his desperation to stop his secret from coming out means he has to target the people most likely to offer Asha aid. Asha and Star then spend the rest of the film evading Magnifico's loyalists, learning about the source of Magnifico's magic and how to break his spell over the hundreds of people he's brainwashed. They sing a few songs, crack some jokes and the goat doesn't reference being the founder of Zootopia, are you bloody kidding me?! It ends with Magnifico defeated and Star telling Asha that she was the one who ended up granting her grandfather's wish as he inspired her to become the person she is now. Asha realises the Magnifico was right about one thing: wishes are only special because not everyone will live to see theirs come true. However, that doesn't mean your wish can't live on through others, especially those who care for you. Very cute and sappy.' END Ok, I admit that I may have stopped trying by the end there, but I think we can all agree that the crude summary I wrote in about ten minutes was far more interesting than the film we actually got, even if it's not particularly well-written. Disney has some immensely talented people working for them, so to see them produce such offensively mediocre films like this frustrates me to no end.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@PuzzlePottage1390 His fate is both interesting and terrifying when you think about it. I was thinking about that on the drive home like "wow omg that's such a cool idea to tie it all togeth-OH MY GOD HE'S LITERALLY IN A MIRROR FOR ALL ETERNITY TF" lol and oh my god ASHA BEING THE "FAIRY GOD MOTHER"! That is also very nice way to celebrate the centennial too. Her cloak immediately made me go "ohhhh. Ohhh. Nice." lol

[@sandrahwu]

But would it be as good as in P&F where Alt. Dimension DoofxCharlene pretended to be divorced out of convenience and financial gain?

[@lospereye]

To quote C.S.Lewis, “A children's story that can only be enjoyed by children isn't a good children's story in the slightest.”

[@msk-qp6fn]

Truth

[@AVdE10000]

It's be real, disney has kind of become the trillion dollar variant of those awful "for kids" KZbin channels that crap out low effort content without a single care of its quality, as long as the content is just there and ready to be consumed. Only to drown in a sea of similar content afterwards, becoming more and more indistinguishable from the rest as time goes on.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

That's the whole reason they're called "family films", they're supposed to be for all ages not just to keep the babies busy.

[@drdewott9154]

@@PlatinumAltaria Yeah exactly! And heck if people want to find a different actually good family movie with the same themes and elements and then a whole lot of its own, then as many have already pointed out, DreamWorks put out Puss in Boots the last wish just a year ago!

[@hugoedelarosa]

Was he talking about his writing?

[@xKumei]

Disney using pop music writers for their anniversary honestly feels insulting. It shows such a disregard for their own history.

[@JonathanGaeta]

This makes me want to watch Chicken Little than Wish. Yes I’m dead serious, even though Chicken Little has a lot of bad crap in it **cough cough Buck Cluck** at least the licensed pop songs that’s in it are catchy, in Wish the songs sounds like pop songs specifically made for the TikTok people.

[@txwtw]

@@JonathanGaeta yeah, like Ain’t No Mountain High Enough is a banger. How can Chicken Little of all things have a better soundtrack than Disney’s 100th anniversary?!

[@ningenshikkaku2042]

@@JonathanGaeta Bro I'd much rather rewatch Shark Tale than to even bother watching Wish, lmao.

[@ZoobiethePopplio]

​​@@JonathanGaetaThat's insulting to pop songs made for Tik Tok. Circus by Fox SZN is pretty good.

[@supermariof0521]

Honestly using pop songs kinda feels like something Disney CHANNEL would've done. If Wish was a DCOM, nobody would really mind. But this is a high budget in house animated project from Disney's core A team meant to celebrate 100 years, and yet it feels like they weren't allowed to put effort into it.

[@darknessbobulus]

The worst part of this to me is that Magnifico has all the traits of a heroic but flawed king. Other than being conceited, he's a stand up guy. He was a normal guy, lost his family, taught himself powerful magic, made his own peaceful kingdom from scratch where everyone was welcome AND its free. He grants wishes that are good for the kingdom, aren't too vague as to back fire, and aren't impossible. He grants a wish for a woman who wants to make great clothes by giving her a magic pair of scissors so she still has to put the work in, just like he did. After all of his hard work, he should be allowed some pride and the belief that he should get some respect. He just randomly becomes evil bc Disney suddenly believes "Be careful what you wish for" is for boomers.

[@amyvasquez4268]

I have a feeling he was supposed be a non-villainous antagonist with good or at least understandable intentions, much like Abuela Alma, but then the execs saw that Disney fans were begging for real irredeemable villains, and changed him to be so.

[@elliotfinn]

Yeah, it's so free that he doesn't even charge you rent!

[@kirkengstrom917]

That woman could have gotten her Dream to make the finest dresses without wishing for it, though. He was basically just appointing her to a position, and she could have just worked hard and made the best dresses, anyway.

[@darknessbobulus]

@@kirkengstrom917 That is true, but he did give her magic scizzors to help so... better? I think?

[@xCoatlicuex]

@@kirkengstrom917 And the grandparent could just learn to play guitar,every citizen could have worked for their wishes but expect the king do all the work for them.

[@Maddin1313]

Disney celebrating its anniversary with Wish is like Gordon Ramsay celebrating his anniversary with a can of ravioli.

[@6618mushi]

He has a line of microwave dinners being sold at Walmart. According to Ratatouille logic - he sold out.

[@bennanbobales2358]

Couldn’t have said it better

[@MariusWales]

That's very disrespectful to ravioli.🤣

[@mergat2970]

Yea but chef boyardee ravioli slaps

[@thegreatfassad1987]

... like Sega celebrating Sonic with '06.

[@publiusnaso9473]

There's concept art from when Queen Amaya was evil, and the idea of a villainous power couple is rad and unique, a villain song duet could be awesome.

[@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario]

WE WERE ROBBED

[@revi6482]

That actually sounds quite interesting. I would have loved that especially if they genuine loved each other and were just evil and try to stay in control. Could have also been interesting since Asha now has to watch out for two people, but Disney probably thought kids heads would have exploded, so they took the easy way. I miss the old movies.

[@Ilicia_08]

They probably changed the queen from being evil so they could have the “girl power” moment with her running the kingdom in the end and everything being better now under her rule.

[@Sammy-S]

༼⁠;⁠´⁠༎ຶ⁠ ⁠۝ ⁠༎ຶ⁠༽ You're telling me we were robbed of a *villain POWER COUPLE?!*

[@matthewsimpson5529]

That could have also saved the King's characterization problem - one gets the semi-sympathetic motivation and backstory, while the other gets to be gleefully evil

[@XxdextriousxX]

My friend took her 4 year old daughter to see this and she kept asking to use the bathroom. Then finally admitted she just didn’t wanna continue watching and rather walk around the theater 💀💀💀💀

[@ravindrabisram137]

Bro you gotta be making this up 😂😂😂

[@XxdextriousxX]

@@ravindrabisram137 no really they’re at her beck and call lmao

[@jollipop09]

No way a *4 year old* who got tired of the movie? Damn, that's just saying a whole lot...

[@XxdextriousxX]

@@jollipop09 ok well maybe she isn’t 4 idk I just know she’s a child and can talk lol so maybe 6-8?

[@carrool]

@@XxdextriousxXhow could a 4-8 year old be walking around a theatre by themselves

[@itskevinolear]

Damn this movie’s got Schaf defending Raya AND Ralph Breaks the Internet. This is serious 🧐

[@amyvasquez4268]

I mean, he did say that they were worse and still bad at the beginning

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

Is it weird that I unironically enjoyed both Raya for its sense of adventure and Ralph Breaks the Internet's sense of introspection? Wish is hot garbage though.

[@memecliparchives2254]

​@@JohnPeacekeeperBoth sides represent how either movies oculd be seen as bad, whether they are the worst or just disappointing. Ralph Breaks the Internet and Raya are disappointing because of how they handled their otherwise great concepts. But Wish is just downright generic despite its also interesting concept.

[@Attaxalotl]

Raya fumbled the message but was otherwise a really good movie!

[@HypeVoiceActing]

I'm fully convinced that "Once Upon a Studio" was the *actual* 100 Year celebration, and that "Wish" was just a random bad movie they were making and just slapped the 100 Year thing onto it with no thought.

[@taydrabrookshire347]

It’s true

[@msk-qp6fn]

Same

[@cartoonishidealism582]

Nah. There’s way too many Easter eggs for Wish to not be intended as a 100 year anniversary story. There’s more Disney references than actual story in this movie

[@pepearown4968]

@@cartoonishidealism582I’m surprised how little he brought that up.

[@Kingdom850]

Wish literally exists because they wanted to make a story about the iconic wishing star in the Disney intro lol

[@chazjohannsen]

Puss in Boots The Last Wish is all the wish-based animated fairytale movie I need.

[@hyperturbofox17]

Spirited Away is even better

[@jeromealday614]

​@@hyperturbofox17what? How tf is Spirited away a wish based movie? It's more of a Alice in Wonderland

[@hyperturbofox17]

Spirited Away is actually a Isekai movie but the main protagonist Chihiro wish that she should obey her parents and turn them back to normal.

[@hoxiipoxii56]

​@@hyperturbofox17Sure it's a good movie but it's not a better wish themed movie imo

[@traewilson5127]

King Magnifico isn't 1/100th the villain Big Jack Horner is.

[@hanoh2904]

Hearing such a world recognized company teaching kids " I are" broke me as an English teacher

[@lynxone9434]

I don't even speak English natively and it broke me too

[@Glasshouse828]

I R Baboon apparently wrote the songs for this movie

[@stevethepocket]

You must loathe _Sesame Street_ for exposing children to Cookie Monster.

[@liammcnicholas918]

The infinite monkey theorem

[@d4-v1d22]

I remembered hearing a way that could be fixed. If Star could talk, have them make grammatical errors, since they aren’t 100% familiar with English. Then that line would be a bit less painful

[@hayleygrace6542]

The fact they didn’t get Alan Menken involved the 100 anniversary film is criminal.

[@amyvasquez4268]

They had SO many options. Alan, Lin, the Lopezes, or other song producers that have proven their work in musical theater. But instead they go with two pop artists who have zero experience with musicals…?

[@TheRealNTM]

How did he write for Sausage Party and not for Disney's 100 year anniversary film? What happened?

[@4deleDaz33m]

@@amyvasquez4268 I would've wanted Alan, Lin, and The Lopezs could actually collaborate together and make songs for this movie instead they went with someone else.....

[@Aurora-Welch]

Yes. Kinda criminal.

[@dimsumboy22]

cant have an old white man

[@huntercool2232]

The fact that people actually FORGOT this film was even out really says a lot about Disney’s current state.

[@MsRxses]

IT'S ALREADY OUT?? I THOUGHT ALL I WAS JUST WATCHING ARE THE TEASERS OR SOMETHING 😭😭😭

[@msk-qp6fn]

For real i didnt even know it even released

[@-WhatTheActualHay-]

I thought it was coming out in 2024

[@4deleDaz33m]

I knew this movie comes out on Thanksgiving as Disney has been doing this tradition where every year during Thanksgiving, there's always a new Disney animated movie but I wasn't all that interested. I saw the trailer twice when I went to see Taylor Swift concert movie and yet I still wasn't interested

[@PsycheTrance65]

Which is hilairous to me because every trip to the cinema I went to this year ran Wish's trailer. Which probably means it was so dreadfully mediocre that the trailer was ineffective.

[@georgemccartney8906]

Jeremy Jahns said it pretty well: "It doesn't feel like its celebrating 100 years of Disney, just the 100th year."

[@ScionStorm1]

Should have adapted Epic Mickey for the 100th anniversary.

[@evinnoelle1826]

​@@ScionStorm1if that happened, I would crap my pants, cry, call my parents, and buy tickets in one fell swoop

[@themoocow7718]

⁠@@ScionStorm1Would’ve loved that. Have some callbacks to Sorcerer's Apprentice

[@maddie_sarver]

I was going to watch Wish on the theaters but I ended up going shopping. Now I respect myself for dodging a bullet.

[@KittyTwitty9876]

​@@ScionStorm1bro that would bring back my loyalty faster than anything 😂😂 we know they have brilliant people working there having the same ideas, why aren't they being heard??

[@chimanruler15]

14:01 "...this movie lacks any real theme or significant message." You nailed it. That was EXACTLY how I felt after I watched the whole thing in theaters. Smh, Disney, wtf what were you doing?

[@diegonatan6301]

The message is: "Beware what you wish for" is for boomers, everyone that doesn't say immediately yes to your every whim is a villain.

[@glitterisok937]

i red wrong the first time with "That was EXACTLY how I felt after I watched the whole thing in tears." and honestly didn't see anything wrong with it 😂😂

[@chimanruler15]

@@glitterisok937 LOL! XD

[@aidan4472]

So… about those “used a deep learning model-with no capability to put effective thematic flare into a movie- to play a massive part in writing said movie” allegations…

[@josiaharaki7310]

Also, I know, in the circles I saw commenting on the film anyway, the way the king was depicted in the trailers was interpreted as having a heavy anti-religion undertone due to how the king seemed to be a straw man caricature of God.

[@huntercool2232]

Wish is the perfect example of targeting only one type of audience. As a wise man once said, “A children’s story that can only be enjoyed by children is not a good children’s story in the slightest.” -C.S. Lewis

[@cloudshines812]

Its like Disney is stuck in this Old Hollywood trend that we had decades ago. Nobody liked watching these kiddie, fantasy, musical films anymore because nobody was attracted to it. Even something like The Hunger Games and Godzilla Minus One, two films doomed for failure STILL had more attention and love

[@theboyinthedark6521]

@@cloudshines812they gotta learn by nect movie

[@theboyinthedark6521]

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[@enegizedadam]

​@@theboyinthedark6521they won't. Greed is you answer

[@theboyinthedark6521]

@@enegizedadam hopefully they will we can’t say they won’t they done got so much hate and pointing outs by fans on what they don’t like they were getting so much hate before this movie if the next movie is bad its for greed

[@haunted2882]

We need more flawed female character's like Megara, she never trusted anyone and always hid her emotions, but that showed us that being open isn't a weakness.

[@Cure_Hana]

I always loved Meg for how sarcastic and jaded she was. The movie even poked fun at this by giving her a classic Disney Princess scenario with a pair of cute critters (Pain and Panic in disguise), only for her to harshly call them “a couple of rodents looking for a theme park.” 😂

[@tentacurl8583]

Exactly. I’m so tired of the “innocent female protagonist whose a little ditzy/clumsy/“quirky”” trope.

[@msk-qp6fn]

More like we need more female characters and protagonists that are cynical and sarcastic without being evil.

[@ahstiasummers5583]

Agreed. More and more modern female characters tend to look and act like they were pulled from some random teen's self-insert fanfic. Pretty face, socially awkward, and never has to grapple with a paradigm shift to any degree. It's always someone else's fault things are screwed up, they never contributed to it even slightly/unwillingly

[@isabeanie81]

@@ahstiasummers5583All the writers are locked up in cells, only able to use fanfiction as research 😔

[@yeahidraw7068]

This movie is the definition of jangling the keys in front of Disney adults

[@Dora-xi5ob]

Why would Disney adults like this? Only little kids will like this thing I’m stupid. You meant the references to classic Disney. I thought you were saying that millennials are cringe so they would like a lame movie

[@yeahidraw7068]

@@Dora-xi5ob cause of all the references

[@BrianCannan-em1nk]

I saw someone saying, “If you don’t give this movie a chance, then you aren’t a real Disney fan!” This movie looks like the most generic movie ever invented. If I wanted to watch a paradigm-shifting movie that changes the boundaries of animation, I’d watch Across the Spider Verse. If I wanted to watch a fantasy romp with animation that looks good(I wouldn’t say wish’s animation looks good though), I could watch Nimona. If I wanted to watch the supposed swan song of a legendary creator of animated movies, I’d just wait for The Boy and The Heron.

[@tatltails3923]

"Jingle jangle jingle jangle, I said your favorite word, The Backrooms!"

[@albertanmotorcyclist6419]

@@Dora-xi5obI’m confused what your point is, Disney adults literally have kid brains, hence being Disney adults

[@rebeccahallett6442]

Dreamworks made Puss In Boots: The last Wish, which was a wish-based movie, and then Disney made their wish-based movie; Wish... I think Dreamworks won.

[@jwroot]

Yeah they won the wish aspect easily. There was so much heart and soul put into Puss in Boots 2 than... This.

[@ThePiachu]

Worse yet, for a movie called Wish, you see fewer wishes granted than in frigging Alladin, a movie about a genie with an explicit limit of wishes he can grant... The wishing star itself only granted one wish - the goat's desire to talk...

[@reidsneid2046]

Disney will NOT be dodging the AI songwriting allegations after lines like “I let you live here for free without even charging rent” for their main villains songs 💀💀

[@josephtafur]

That would be Juila Michaels

[@cakepann]

“I’m always there when you need to vent” come on now!

[@liv_the_warlock]

Oh 100%

[@hybridvenom9]

ai

[@4deleDaz33m]

Well that's a shame on Julia Michaels lol

[@Jonathan_Collins]

Do you know Walt Disney himself, and the company itself through 2010, would allow the writers MONTHS to work out the stories? Walt once threw out six months worth of work by his storyboard artists/writers when it became apparent to them and him the direction of the film wasn't working. (Pinocchio was delayed because they weren't happy with the character design). A writer on Toy Story 3 took six weeks to unknot a story problem and everyone was cool with that and liked his solution. Now, things are rushed through to feed the content pipeline and there's no time given to put something aside, ponder it, and rework it if necessary.

[@SpaceotterwithaMustache]

Slow and steady wins the race

[@jstarwars360]

Frozen was shelved TWICE because they couldn't crack the story. Good Dinosaur was delayed a year and a half to a full reworking of the film. I'm pretty Meet the Robinsons also got pushed back a year so they could redo more than half of the film.

[@goldengriffon]

Content over art.

[@koiloylo]

⁠@@jstarwars360and yet Frozen 2 was extremely rushed and unfinished

[@finnsmith9066]

I’m curious to know what the story problem was for toy story 3!

[@jonalban4349]

I don’t understand how anyone anywhere could think that it’s a bad thing to selectively grant wishes. Some wishes are bad. And some wishes just contradict each other, and so they can’t both be granted.

[@Raximus3000]

And some are vague as hell. LIke inspiring people... The phrase "be careful what you wish for" exists for a reason! The idea he was completely wrong is laughable also if i am not mistaken people were okay even without them... This sounds like a child who did not get his way making a movie why he should get his way.

[@amyvasquez4268]

Lol PiB The Last Wish’s climax, they literally HAD to destroy the star to stop Jack Horner to make a wish to control all magic…. this movie really doesn’t realize that some dreams can be deadly and/or selfish :/

[@Raximus3000]

@@amyvasquez4268 The comparison to PiB the last wish and wish feels like bullying. I will do it anyway, last wish had three main wishes the selfish villainous from Jack Horner, the one from Goldylocks which was heartly but in the end she had what she was after all along and the one from Puss which was effectively a matter of life and death. You have greed, heartbreaking desire and desperate need, those wishes are not on the same level but according to the idiotic wish logic all of them are the same, wish has a naive at best stupid at worst way at looking at things, even pre-schooler shows would not have such awful message.

[@Cam1417-TK]

What if two or more people wish to be the "best in the entire world" at the same thing? If there are multiple "number 1" at something at the same time, it means they are not "the best in the world" but "among the best", so technically their wishes weren't truly granted.

[@overlydramaticpanda]

I can't help but feel something that would have helped this immensely was if Asha was a literal child (like...10 years old max). At least then it would be somewhat understandable why she doesn't get that not granting every wish isn't in and of itself a bad thing.

[@ennaaizpuru663]

I have 2 theories about why they chose those two to make the music for wish: 1) they were the only ones who didn't participate on the strike 2) they were hoping for the music to have a similar impact that "Let it go" did, by choosing pop musicians they intended to produce a hit for "everyone".

[@MalakiaLaGattaNera]

Honestly, the "fix" for this movie sounds very simple to me. 1) Make both the king and queen evil. Villains need to bounce off someone, either a sidekick or servants (Iago, the hyenas, Lefou) and we never had a evil couple before, if we exclude Scar and Zira that never shared any screentime since she's a later addition. 2) Make the protagonist a kid and not a teen. No one will believe her when she discovers the evil plans of the rulers, which immediately makes the conflict more interesting and engaging than "adult quirky protagonist with a billion forgettable friends" 3) the star HAS to be a person. The star should've been the Princess/Fairy god mother type. That is what it was always intended to be since its inception in Pinocchio and Princess and the Frog paid a lovely homage to that by naming the star Evangeline. It writes itself: in the end, you have a kid helping this magical star-person who nobody believes in anymore (because the king and queen stole her wishes away) restore her power and save the day.

[@cubriffic172]

There's concept art of when the star was personified and it looks GORGEOUS. I'm so mad they didn't stick to it, they looked Peter Pan-esque and it really gave the vibes of old Disney (at least to me)

[@mayruuh]

when random internet users have better ideas at making a better movie than a billion dollar company you know you're lacking

[@joshuaW5621]

And also make Valentino tolerable.

[@diverman1023]

The star was hilarious as is, I completely disagree

[@MalakiaLaGattaNera]

@@diverman1023 be my guest.

[@AA-wn1ed]

What bothered me slightly at the end was the queen so easily discarding her husband. While I get he went evil and it was implied he would be stuck that way. She had no sense of loss or grief for losing the "love of her life." She just casually tells them to go to jail at the end and doesn't bat an eye. Wtf

[@eatatjoes6751]

If this is supposed to be a prequel to all the wishing star bullshit, then Amara changed her name to Gertrude and hunted down some German kid because she got old or sold her husband to Snow White's stepmom.

[@cartoonishidealism582]

Kinda feels like more evidence that Magnifico being pure evil was like, a hasty rewrite or something to appeal to the crowd that wants classic Disney villains again.

[@Shyontheinternet99]

@@cartoonishidealism582 I’ve heard that originally the queen was supposed to be evil too, so that’s another thing that was probably a hasty rewrite due to corporate meddling.

[@kirkginoabolafia3650]

Yeah she really seemed to genuinely care about him, like the part when he is beginning to consider the forbidden magic she had a genuinely heartfelt appeal to him.

[@kirbystar7474]

She has a line almost immediately before where she says that she tried to forgive because she loved him.

[@WobblesandBean]

13:00 If you want an AMAZING villain song that uses the same themes as "This is the thanks I get", go listen to "The Wanting Comes in Waves/Repaid" by The Decemberists. Shara Worden absolutely nails it with the passive aggressive evil mom guilt trip tone of "I raised you and this is how you repay me?" PLEASE go listen, it's so good. The whole album is a musical without a stage.

[@avacadotoast5571]

Oh my god, thank you SO much for the recommendation

[@ceratiidaedalus3709]

YES!! OH MY GOD, YES?? I CAN'T BELIEVE I'VE SPOTTED THE HAZARDS OF LOVE IN THE WILD. Top tier rock opera, The Wanting Comes in Waves/Repaid is my favorite song from it. I can absolutely vouch. (Do be aware of the content warnings if you're sensitive to certain topics, though.)

[@Glasshouse828]

Nice to see some Decembrists love, they’re my favorite Indie band and I think they’re quite underrated, “the island” is one of my top 25 favorite songs of all time

[@samuellund1377]

"Powerful person touched magical book and now they're EEEEVILLLLL" is such a lame cop out for writing an interesting motivation for a villain. They could have gone the "heavy is the head that wears the crown" route where the king has power, but has many rivals that threaten his power and that paranoia pushes him over the edge. Or something more interesting than this.

[@NintendodudeX]

My 6 year old niece saw this movie with her Mom and told me she loved the movie. When I asked her what she liked about it, she said, "The popcorn was delicious." 😂 Yeah, I think Disney is definitely in a rut if my own niece can't mention a single part she liked and just remembered the popcorn she ate. At least when I brought her to the Mario Movie, she was singing "Peaches" in the car ride home.

[@nailinthefashion]

She's 6, ask her again but actually about the movie and not generally. I love popcorn too, maybe she didn't think to mention a specific part of the film because .... she's 6 .. how much of it can she even remember other than the goat or star lmao

[@Itariatan]

​@@nailinthefashion6 years old is already school aged, get outta here talking like she's a baby lmao

[@nailinthefashion]

@@Itariatan I worked with kids ages 3-17 for over a decade. They aren't universally intelligent enough to understand you're asking "which scene was your favourite" vs "what was fun" A kid who likes food is gonna say popcorn, as I would most of the time, unless you're specific enough lmao

[@Itariatan]

@@nailinthefashion That's fair, my point is you have no way of knowing how the question was formulated, either. And I doubt a 6 year old wouldn't be smart enough to to say something like "I like the star" or "I like the princess"

[@nailinthefashion]

@@Itariatan they literally said they asked "what did you like about it" lol like I get what yall are saying but one 6 year old isn't a a sign of "Disney definitely being in a rut" but just one 6 year old who didn't care about it that much If I saw it at that age I'd say the star and songs, if I saw Snow White I'd say the popcorn. To each their own, yknow? These comments are so silly. Imma enjoy my fairy god mother variant origin story in peace tho y'all don't need to enjoy it since it already exists

[@moonlightrobbery]

I was under the impression that Asha was Magnifico's daughter at first, and I thought that it was a really neat twist to have the villain be the Princess's bio parent and not stepparent. Apparently that was too much for Disney.

[@eatatjoes6751]

I was too, but nope.

[@darkartsninja]

Wait, she's not?! Then why on earth call her a "Disney princess" if she's not, you know, a princess?

[@elijahbagaman276]

@@darkartsninja Mulan moment

[@X-SPONGED]

​@@darkartsninjabecause the requirements of being a "Disney princess" is making BUCKS at the box office. You don't have to be an actual princess, or struggle, or have compelling motivation, or be an actual character at all. Make Disney some cash at the cinemas and you're officially a Disney Princess™ now, congrats👏

[@eatatjoes6751]

@@darkartsninja Because it's part of the branding now.

[@justpeachy8811]

one big thing i had with the story is that everything Asha and the other hero characters do to “save” the day mean NOTHING. Because multiple times in the movie Magnifico just knows EVERYTHING. He immediately knows it’s Asha who wished on the star, he somehow just knows their whole plan at the end and captures them. And what ends up saving everyone is the typical “everyone sings and believes in themselves”. So you’re telling me, Asha wasted more than half the movie doing her whole “rescue the wishes” plan when ALL the had to do was sing and have the whole town “believe in themselves”??? it just makes a good chunk of the movie useless. They should have had SOMETHING come out of the heroes plans, SOME wins, so they have some merit, so that when the big loss comes, it has weight. Asha’s wins in the movie just seem like luck than merit.

[@z.mp3.wav2]

i feel like schaffrilas is the definitive critic, or rather a quality one at that. he knows the source material and is in touch with the medium, so case in point he knows what he’s talking about. let alone the fact he’s educated, he’s humble when he reviews a topic and gives his complete honest opinion and actually pays attention to minor details in older works the company or studio made and also notices the team that produced the movie to get a good basis as to what’s going on i’m not meatriding i swear

[@jacksykes4680]

It’s fine what you said is completely justified

[@vjbd2757]

If Disney wants to celebrate 100 years with an animated film then just do another Fantasia movie.

[@PsychoticWonders0725]

People don't like those too much.

[@rattyeely]

​@@PsychoticWonders0725they always flop, but they're great movies and it would be a nice tribute to the studio's history

[@tatltails3923]

People don't like this movie either, lol @@PsychoticWonders0725

[@taydrabrookshire347]

Or make Once Upon a Studio a whole feature film

[@alexisdorris272]

To be fair, to my knowledge, the Fantasia movies were just amalgams of unused / scrapped animations that disney cobbled together and sold for a quick buck. You can't really do that in 3d (which is all disney has anymore) because uh...most of that shit is scrapped in the pre-render phase when everything looks like a potato with teeth 😂 shit would be horrifying

[@MerciStarM]

“i let you live here for free and i don’t even charge you rent” was the most frustrating line for me. you wouldn’t be charging someone for rent anyways if they were already there for free!!

[@greatninja2590]

I assume its Tax.

[@hollowwoods7130]

Disney needs to learn the meaning of redundancy

[@bryanwigmore7224]

@@hollowwoods7130It's rapidly becoming their mission statement.

[@nightfall4434]

Ai can’t make a good song 🤷‍♂️

[@zenmasterorwhatever]

AI "songwriting" can be like that.

[@justinpassing4003]

*Disney:* Let's create a new fairy tale film that celebrates our 100th anniversary and harkens back to our roots. *Also Disney:* Let's hire pop songwriters instead of musical theatre songwriters like we've done in our past. What could possibly go wrong? *Me:* Oh, I don't know, how about _absolutely everything?_

[@reyo6353]

It really does date the movie really fast. There's nothing classic about it. ~n~

[@SonicSuper65]

That aint disney wish that is disney from wish 💀

[@jeremiahnoar7504]

The crazy thing is that it's not for the lack of resources. It's the largest entertainment company in the world. They could hire any talent anywhere around the world when ever they want. And this is the extent of their imagination when matched with their virtually unlimited resources.

[@amapola9202]

You know, your comment really made me have this small realization. Maybe having unlimited resources is stalling them. Limitations can be good for creativity, and it’s not like they don’t have them, but they’re the most powerful entertainment company in the world, so maybe they’re the closest to “unlimited” we’re ever gonna get. They also can get all the top talent they want but if they overwork them and give them no time to properly flesh out their ideas, they’re not gonna have good results either. It really is astounding how they can be so powerful yet miss the mark so much.

[@orangeslash1667]

@@amapola9202 Encanto was directed by Bryan Howard. He also did Zootopia and Tangled.

[@HolyTeacup-bc9uc]

I think a part of it is their work culture and how the expect Disney to be your life. Forget family. That's only for customers/guests. So even if they do have all of this money, it doesn't mean they can get anyone they want--because the people Disney really needs don't want to work at a place like Disney. They have enough skill, reputation, and know-how to navigate their career on their own terms without Disney, and Disney likely is not willing to be lax enough nor pay enough for their demands.

[@arlwiss5110]

capitalism

[@starchaser777]

they want to make more with less. basically what the commenter above me said lol

[@marcus3445]

Congratulations Disney for the first Disney Junior movie to get a theatrical release. Now seriously, this feels like a Disney Junior movie, and not just because of the art style.

[@WaksWorld05]

I just realized the artstyle looks like Sofia the First like wtf.

[@annamelvina216]

This almost feels like a disservice to Sofia. She at least feels like an original character.

[@noathern]

As weird as it is to say I'd consider this worse than a Sofia the first or Elena of avalon movie would be because yeah they're designed for kids and are very kiddie based shows but they still had stories to tell and an overarching story to follow

[@faeonie]

bruh sofia the first actually had great, thought-out lore and character devt for a disney junior show

[@TheUltimateLegend7]

​@noathern and they were actually entertaining. And the songs... my dad has never seen an episode of Elena of Avalor but he still sings it sometimes because he heard me and my siblings. It was so iconic

[@gryphonsong4082]

Magnifico is the embodiment of the executives. He takes really good wishes (concepts for stories) and either hides them away or grants the wish in a twisted form as not the original intention of the wish-maker.

[@gabrielcarrasco9078]

You know what wpuld have been a good idea? Making where Asha messes up the storybook endings and having them where the villains win. She and the King would have to go and correct the mistakes.

[@skylarroxanne6982]

Disney is honestly baffling me at this point. Are they trying to lose fans and money?? I genuinely don’t see how they’re going to come back from this mess.

[@josephtafur]

Bob Iger is at his Michael Eisner 2000s era

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Disney has always had highs and lows. This is nothing new

[@StickHits]

@@josephtafur Except that was nowhere near this bad lol, forgettable vs. an era Disney will wish was forgettable

[@josephtafur]

@@StickHits yeah

[@SobiTheRobot]

@@josephtafur Even Eisner didn't fuck up this bad. Say what you want, but Eisner was _trying_.

[@RavenStarMedia]

The original plan for this movie was for Star to be a shapeshifter with a personality like a fusion of Peter Pan and the Genie, and meant to be Asha's love interest. And the king and queen were going to be an evil couple. I would have preferred that to what we got.

[@naiveparsley2917]

My God that would have been interesting!

[@00ammy00]

That sounds SO much more interesting! I want that movie!

[@tiara9624]

Oh my god I’d definitely watch that. Why does Disney always have the best concepts but the worst executions??

[@carlotta4th]

So basically they were going to rip off Stardust.

[@silver_dusk]

Damn, that sounds like a great and much better concept for this movie, so disappointing they didn't go for that and made it mediocre instead

[@creakingskull7008]

The lack of creative uses for magic is something i also felt. Like, with Jafar and Maleficent you can come up with a boss fight moveset with how much cool shit they do

[@mrho7433]

It's honestly astounding that Toho, with a $15 million dollar budget, captured the essence, potency, and artistic value of Godzilla for its 70th anniversary than Disney's OVER $200 MILLION budget "celebration" of their CENTENNIAL anniversary!

[@HydragonofDeath]

Toho actually has a bit of a problem with the fact they refuse to actually spend money on godzilla.

[@Glasshouse828]

At first I was gonna say something about inflation and how it was still less expensive than wish but then I realized you were talking about the 2023 Godzilla film and not the 1954 original

[@tulip5210]

​@@Glasshouse828there was one made in like 2010 too.

[@SatyrToon]

I feel like "This is the Thanks I Get" could have been the crux of an actual theme. What if Magnifico started out using his power to try and help people and make the world a better place, but soon realized that giving people what they want all the time isn't good for society and it made people greedy, asking for more and more and more. He made the decision to stop granting wishes. This lead to outrage and riots and no one would listen to his reasoning. And him telling that story could have lead into the song. "I gave them everything they could ever want or need... but they were angry that I wouldn't give them more. So THIS is the thanks i get..." It would be a song about how people are lazy and greedy and how they cast him out in spite of all the good he'd done for them. And he'd stand by his belief that only he should have this magic to the bitter end because "No one else deserves it." He'd be a once great man who lost his faith in the world and refused to ever again see the good in anyone. He'd be a slave to his confirmation bias, seeing benign interactions and always finding a way to twist them into something negative because, in his core, he believes that the greed he witnessed is what he believes everyone has in their heart.

[@4deleDaz33m]

I actually like "This Is The Thanks I Get" when I hear the song out of context. I turn off my brain about basically the context of the song and just enjoy Chris Pine's vocals 😂

[@elly-nobu9558]

OMG THAT WOULD BE SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING!!!! I had a similar idea but I just thought maybe make him full on evil just good at hiding and maybeee people began feeling grief since the very beginning and he has been consuming their wishes in secret, and Asha only decided to become his apprentice because her grandpa’s wish got consumed and he began feeling grief, so she thought Magnifico could help and decided to work for him. Like this movie has so much potential to be something greater but nope🥲

[@madelineeaton551]

Where WERE you?? You should have been in the writing room, your KZbin comment is better than the final product.

[@chelscara]

Honestly that gives me Jafar in StarKids Twisted vibes

[@greenguyinpfp6565]

this is a delicious idea that’s SO much deeper and solidified!

[@GAL-CAKE]

THE FACT THAT WE COULD'VE HAD A VILLAIN COUPLE AND A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A SHAPESHIFTING STAR BOY AND ASHA WOULD'VE BEEN SO FUCKING COOL AAGHH

[@silver_dusk]

SERIOUSLY I think I've heard so many times about pretty cool concepts from the prestages of mid movies that were better than the final product that shouldve been kept instead of scrapped

[@tsuki3752]

i don’t mind disney going in the direction of not giving their female protagonists love interests but like… they can do it well and have them fall in love 😭 i think kristoff and anna were the best modern example of this. he didn’t save her at the end but it didn’t mean they weren’t in love. and the couples before that were also really well written (eugene/rapunzel, tiana/naveen). there’s been a few princesses that haven’t had love interests and that’s ok but like… romantic love DOES exist and you can still fall in love at that age 😭 idk disney heard the praises that people gave them like one ten years ago and have been riding that ever since. idm having a romance if you like, flesh out both of the characters and make their relationship and chemistry actually interesting.

[@Kawaiikitten0211]

THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT TOO. When I first saw the start of marketing for the movie, I thought "huh it'd look a lot more interesting if the star transformed into a humanoid male character to be the love interest."

[@kymo6343]

I'm so mad I'm so mad UGH I freaking DEMAND the REAL version of WISH!!

[@kymo6343]

@@tsuki3752 Respectfully I think Eugene/Rapunzel and Naveen/Tiana are much better couples than Kristoff/Anna likes obvs Kristoff was better for her than Hans but I almost feel like that's the only reason they worked out. Like gosh Hans was such a dbag to me but you've been nice and you're here soooo wanna be king of my country? pffft... XD;;;

[@baeah3021]

i feel like a good villain analogue to the king is mother gothel. she has her goal achieved at the start of the movie, rapunzel is hers to keep in the tower and she gets her eternal youth. but there are two things that make her compelling: one, the first things you see her do in the movie are blatantly evil. coveting the healing flower and the song for herself (the royal family only took it because they didnt know the song existed), then kidnapping the baby. second, even though she had what she wanted, there was a very real and PERSISTENT threat to that. the kingdom is looking for her, and preschool aged rapunzel was already asking to go outside.

[@hourglass1988]

That was my feeling too. The whole thing just felt flat somehow. Like I couldn't put my finger on exactly what bugged me about it but the thing just didn't have any soul. As an aside Disney, a company that buys IP and holds it hostage as its primary business model, making a movie about a person that takes people's dream's away and then holding them hostage for personal power is sooooo deeply Ironic.

[@ariesarchdemon]

The worst part about all of this is that I'm fairly certain when the Disney execs see how much this movie flopped, the only conclusion they'd probably make is that "animated Disney films don't work anymore." They've always worked, they just need to be GOOD.

[@Spamhard]

This wasn't a classic Disney animated film tho. it was cg

[@ariesarchdemon]

@@Spamhard I shoulda clarified I meant "classic" in the sense of storyline, like the inclusion of actual villains and theatrical songs, not classically 2D animation.

[@peteryeeterson5766]

@@ariesarchdemon I mean, a new 2d animated film would be lit as hell.

[@ghope5448]

What im more worried about is they ignore the criticism altogether and use the excuse that it's only because the main character is a POC 😬 I foresee them continuing to use minorities to their favour in this way to block out any possible criticism

[@drawingsheeptosleep6386]

@@ghope5448 Moana and Encanto did pretty well, so I would hope they are not that dumb

[@4deleDaz33m]

I know by the fact that this is obviously just for merchandise purpose but still, giving the animal sidekick a voice to talk is the biggest mistake this movie did. Most Disney animal sidekicks are at their best when they just don't talk Edit : Calm down people, when i said most, I don't mean all. Yeah there have been some talking animal sidekick that were good but there's still not many. I mean Hei Hei The Chicken could've been worse if he does talk 🤷

[@kirbystar7474]

What about flounder and pongo.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Maybe they felt the need that ONE of the fun sidekicks to talk, but then you have Abu and Carpet who BOTH don't talk.

[@demetriam2408]

​@@kirbystar7474who thinks of pongo as a sidekick?

[@samuelstrautmann63]

It’s also such a waste of Alan Tudyk.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

​@@samuelstrautmann63legit first thought it was Prof x as the goat lol

[@Fiveboiledeggs]

I think the *live here for free* lyric could’ve been fixed if they swapped the “and” for a “yeah” “I let you live here for free, yeah I don’t even charge you rent” This makes it more like he’s emphasising the first point, rather than listing the same thing as if it were two separate things

[@bleach-kun]

It honestly feels like the first and second halves of rhe movie were written by 2 different people. Magnifico started off as a genuinely good guy with great traits and good intentions. And it felt like they realized they made him too nice and likable so they started making him cartoonishly evil.

[@hilotakenaka]

It’s so baffling how Disney’s strategy for making sure people watch their films nowadays is to do literally zero marketing. Here where I live, there has been zero advertisements for it, and the only time I’ve even HEARD of Wish was someone saying the box office projections were awful _two days_ before release

[@sirhc9538]

Right? I didn't even know it was coming out this year, I thought it was going to be a mid-2024 release.

[@4deleDaz33m]

I knew this was about to come out (still not interested to see it) because Disney these days always releases new animated movies every Thanksgiving, I heard that they're already preparing another one for next year's Thanksgiving for a new release. It seems like this formula release thing where Disney releases new animated movies every Thanksgiving. Oh I also watched the Taylor Swift concert movie in theaters, they played the Wish trailer for two times

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

I only found out "Wish" existed while leaving the theatres of the newest Hunger Games movie.

[@ToibiDoesStuff]

Really? I've seen so many advertisements for this movie lately and was like "huh at least Disney actually has decent marketing now" so its surprising to see so many people say otherwise (not just online, I saw an ad on the news once and several Wish-themed merch at the store)

[@Alicenomono]

In Brazil the movie's coming out in TWO MONTHS from now. Like, wtf?

[@NatalieEngland-kb9dj]

Disney really wanted to push toys for this one. I was in the doll aisle of my local Walmart, and Wish dolls were already lining the shelves. I hadn't even seen a single trailer on KZbin or TV. Were they hoping kids would just automatically want them because they were Disney, not caring that they hadn't seen the movie yet? Not only that, but they were really cheap looking dolls. They looked rushed.

[@katsfire6635]

Same! I saw an entire cardboard cutout and a whole clothes rack dedicated to this film with pjs and clothes. my first thought was 'is this film even out yet?' I bet parents are gonna see thats its disney and just buy it for their kids anyway without thinking much of it bc 'disney good'.

[@boeneca]

there are other doll lines out there that do better even when the story isn't their main focus but even then, their webisodes and dedicated movies were still as engaging, take monster high and ever after high (sad to say that eah was cancelled)

[@MacenW]

​@@katsfire6635i have an aunt like that. Wealthy, takes annual trips to Disney world.

[@katsfire6635]

@@MacenW well I hope you liked wish lol

[@greendoritoman2464]

Capitalism

[@meadowlove822]

Edit: The Lego Movie did this right. I can’t emphasize enough how much I agree with the point on the sudden switch up with Magnifico. It feels disingenuous to hint at a character who has literally helped build a kingdom from scratch, with good intentions, with a wife literally described as Loyal, as having a traumatic backstory then sweeping all of that away to have her mocking him at the end (as per moderngurlz’s take) and then punish him for a fear based reaction that was set up by the movie as fueled by that difficult past However, unlike everyone else, I think that Magnifico is clearly an allegory for like you said, “a man/person in power” and I totally understood where he was coming from at the beginning of the movie, even though it meant that he needed to he humbled as part of the process and learn to think in a new way. So many leaders of organizations, teams, companies, anything are going to resonate with the struggles that this man is facing, trying to keep alive something they’ve given everything for and that they worry consistently about being destroyed by something beyond their control that they can’t stop, only to miss that they may be destroying it themselves. Even with that flaw in their vision, seeing him totally vilified at the end was not the right move if they were going to go with this perspective When we got to the third act what I was hoping, literally edge of my seat, internally begging to happen, was for Magnifico’s redemption, only because he was set up as good and hurt at the beginning. If he and his wife had been villains the whole time, I would have lived for the chaotic, fun villainy of older Disney. But, leaders in positions of power that become afraid of change and rigid Don’t always have to be thrown in a dungeon! They need to be humbled and re-learn how to take on different perspectives and re-learn how to Trust other people that think differently than them. When the king was doomed to dark magic, and trapped in that staff, I audibly said “No, Magnifico…”. It felt undeserved. I couldn’t believe it What I propose as a rewrite is that Disney showed a leader, freed from the hold of the dark magic by the joined voices of this community that he clearly cared about and seemingly cared about him too rebelling against the dark magic. Him willingly taking off the crown as a result of recognizing that he was no longer fit to rule, and forming a COUNCIL maybe even with the people who worked in the palace???? And knew the kingdom best as it’s citizens??? It may have totally been that his wife became the new ruler, yes! Let’s do that! Or the Doc character, anyone! But literally no one else has led the kingdom before. He must know a lot about how it works and have at least some wisdom to share. Let him, humbled, apologetic and willing to help facilitate change maybe be the guide for the next ruler? His wife be proud of him for doing that maybe? This could have been a huge lesson for people that identify with Magnifico on how they can be redeemed and that it’s important to step down when you’re not suited anymore for leading at the helm, but you’re not thrown away or useless. You can guide the group of leaders or main team, when asked, with what they think is best. They don’t have to be the bad guy, and while some may not trust them anymore obviously, others can see the authentic apology, and recognize and remember all that was good and done in the past

[@dafarmer3721]

Here’s the deal. Took my daughter with my nieces and sister to this movie. I suggested migration but nooooo. Problems. 1. Art style this looks like a straight to Netflix tv show compared to previous films. 2. Messaging. The message that everyone’s dreams no matter what should come true is not good. Be careful what you wish for is a better message. 3. Characters were so cringe. 4. Villain was the good guy honestly.

[@LillanaMeadows-zc9tj]

Aladdin somehow pulled off the "be careful what you wish for" Moral better, in a way lmao. Like it wasn't Aladdin's wish of being a prince that won over Jasmine. It was his inner character lol. In fact, Jasmine had been so used to stuffy princess who treated her more like an object that she was understandably VERY skeptical of Al as "Prince Ali". His wish actively hampered his budding relationship with Jasmine until he came clean. He got what he wanted: becoming a prince to be able to marry Jasmine. But JASMINE wanted more than just a prince.

[@sarcasticat6979]

I saw someone describe the villain song as "AI generated" and I can't think of a better descriptor. And on the adorkable problem: Rapunzel and Mirabelle get a pass in my opinion, because Rapunzel was socially secluded and was also the first 'adorkable' lead, while Mirabelle is try-harding like crazy to live up to her literal magical family. It makes sense for them to have those personalities given the context of their stories. Moana and Anna though? Raised as royalty. There's no reason for them to be like that. Although tbf, I didn't find the trope obnoxious until Asha.

[@genericname2747]

Anna was also isolated though. She has never interacted with normal people until the gates are opened

[@mahlicaajaib5231]

Anna had a similar backstory in the film too though. It works because it can be explained easily in the story (her upbringing )and not shoehorned in for cheap laughs Mirabel is more forced: the directors literally just said make her quirky and there wasn't that same thought behind it

[@dohavename6775]

​@@genericname2747unlike Rapunzel's, Anna's isolation was a plot contrivance, not necessity. For the world of me, why just not let Anna socialise? There's no answer whatsoever. It's just needed **in order** to have her quirky and naïve. It should be the other way around.

[@zephyr3693]

Anna shouldn’t have been quite as dorky and “quirky”, while yes she was pretty isolated in the castle, her older sister wasn’t even allowed to leave her bedroom or interact with her own family and didn’t turn out like that. Disney just wanted to recapture the success of Tangled by having another princess with the same personality type as Rapunzel (and I’m saying this as a huge Frozen fan)

[@genericname2747]

@dohavename6775 That's fair. I'm just willing to accept her being isolated because she's royalty. I think it makes sense for her to not interact with commoners. The movie never explains why she hasn't befriended the servants though.

[@protoi703]

So to fixed this story they should have: -kept the evil villain couple idea. Have a wish go so horribly wrong that it makes the king and queen go to the extreme. -have Asha as their daughter -return the wish star as the shape shifter. I like that the original plan was to have it as a love interest that had its own opinions. -have them team up against the evil couple. Just imagine the internal conflict Asha would have. Help the star or fight her parents. - even after wining the star should go overboard with wishes and Asha would have to stop it, realizing that not all wishes should come true. -Asha should have represented the middle ground, not all wishes should come true but her parents should not stop peoples dreams. The end message should be to let your wishes grow, don't give people everything but don't squash them. I hate how executives think they know better. You need a balance between business and artistry or else you end up with a hollow picture.

[@KyootNy]

Not you making a movie I would love to watch. Now I’m sad it doesn’t exist.

[@amyvasquez4268]

We were robbed of this so freaking much. I wanna visit a timeline where the film’s plot is this…

[@OhNoItsExpiredMilk]

This is literally the soul they took from Wish, I hate it so much everything could have been amazing but no ☹️

[@Leafiu]

Concept production always ends up better than the final product. Remember how Elsa was originally going to be the villain of frozen?

[@sunflowerdayze]

Omg this sounds like an amazing movie! I didn't watch wish, but I would love to watch your version lmao

[@Coufu]

Your assessment of the music is spot on. I couldn’t put my confusion for the music into words but you hit the nail on the head and then some

[@XXcartoonXcrazyXX]

For me the entire premise just falls flat. Magnifico literally made a Kingdom based on the concept of 'the burdens and grief that wishes and dreams can engender are so intense that people would be better off without them, I'll safeguard them instead to take away those burdens and MAYBE grant some if I feel like it' and everyone who comes to the Kingdom buys into that ideology. That's it's better to not try, because then you don't have to experience failure (even though you forsake joy if you succeed). Magnifico never stole the wishes, they were freely given, and surely the people in the Kingdom can do basic maths: 1 wish granting ceremony a month= 12 wishes granted a year (plus a few if Magnifico is feeling generous) so they must have known the chances of their own wish getting picked was slim to none. It's like the lottery; they threw away their wish because they didn't want the hard graft of making it happen or were too scared it would fail, to live a life of contentment and MAYBE have their wish granted by a sorcerer and they have to put in zero effort. I just have zero sympathy for anyone in this Kingdom. The ONLY exceptions are perhaps the kids that were born there and never got a choice and HAD to surrender their wish at age 18, but the villain there ain't Magnifico it's their parents for buying into this ideology in the first place. Sorry 100 year old grandpa, you willingly went to a Kingdom who didn't hide its ideology and handed over your wish to 'inspire' rather than go somewhere else to make it happen. I don't feel sorry for you, nor anyone else in the Kingdom. Magnifico did literally nothing wrong (pre evil book bullshit) and Asha's 'shock' that not all wishes can be granted is dumb af.

[@DanGamingFan2846]

It's a shame a celebration of 100 years turned out to be so generic and forgetable, even with all it had going for it. Cool hybrid animation, bringing back true villains, Ariana DeBose, and they still screwed up. Those songs actually felt AI generated. They need to start taking risks and changing up their formula, or they'll be left in the dust. I know some of us want that, but while I dislike the corporation, I still want the studio to do great things again.

[@demetriam2408]

Im gonna be honest, the animation is just netflix original show style.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

​@demetrian8448 why is that an insult cause nimona is on Netflix

[@watershipup7101]

Very much agreed. It just felt kinda samey.

[@tommasoastaldi2513]

This was the movie that was supposed to be a beautiful celebration and wonderful addition to the roster of movies of the FIRST great animation studio in history, the one that basically invented modern animation, and they blew it disastrously. They cannot recover after this.

[@demetriam2408]

@@TheRibottoStudios show style, like series, with seasons. The movies generally look pretty fantastic, but I'm thinking more like 3d attempting to look 2d and failing, like really bad genshin impact models, the 2d outline on a 3d character style. That sort of thing

[@NotAdriana03]

Man, remember when people thought Perrito from Puss in Boots was gonna be the annoying animal sidekick? Seems like Disney does what Dreamworks didn't

[@genericname2747]

The Shrek franchise has gone back to its roots of mocking Disney and making quality movies

[@MegaSoulHero]

Funny thing is Perrito’s voice actor is in Wish as one of Asha’s friends.

[@karolinakuc4783]

​@@MegaSoulHeroPoor guy.

[@msk-qp6fn]

​@@MegaSoulHero i hope he cashed that check

[@MegaSoulHero]

@@msk-qp6fn He’s been in worse things.

[@ArsPoetica]

LOVED YOUR POINTS! I needed this reassurance as I felt the same but was not sure if I was overthinking it. I did enjoy it overall, but on a deeper level it was not that good. Was no one else bothered too that there was no real moral of this story or a lesson learned? Like Asha disagrees with the King and goes out of her way to prove herself right, but she doesn't learn anything about how wishes could be dangerous or understand the King's initial perspectives? I also do not like how the King is defeated by just getting sucked into the staff, boring! I was hoping they would break the evil spell by making him remember his dream of creating a prosperous kingdom and what his past ambitions were, but it also triggers a change in him that he should be encouraging people to make their dreams come true on their own and magic is not the answer or something. He doesn't seem that villainous to begin with and then just suddenly gets triggered when a wish goes through???

[@SeraphWolfen]

It would have been interesting if the king gained power by collecting the wishes of his subjects, under the guise of fulfilling them. Maybe he really wanted to take over the other kingdoms, or wanted absolute control of his subjects. Star boy concept would have been amazing. You could have kept the little star thing as his minions. There were so many cool things this movie could have done, such as look like a storybook like Klaus did. That would have been an interesting style and would have fit with the theme of 100 years of storytelling.

[@ShadowKitty7908]

I think part of the reason why Asha doesn’t work is because her dorky personality doesn’t have anyone to bounce off of. Besides her friends who aren’t in the movie for the majority of it until the end. Rapunzel, Anna and Mirabel have characters to bounce off of. Mirabel’s Family, Eugene, and Elsa/Krastoff all contrast well. Also they had more story relevancy to be the dorks they are. Rapunzel/Anna locked away for years so they had built up a lot of personality from being suppressed. And Mirabel desperately wants to be noticed and appreciated. So having a big bubbly personality is a good way to get her recognized. Here Asha feels Dorky for the sake of being dorky. And it can feel overwhelming at times. For example (Spoilers) When she’s facing off Magnifico instead of a cool battle of magic from a master expert vs new beginner but who is trying her best. We get a chase scene involving her fumbling with a wand. It’s not bad but I think it would have been more interesting.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

I think the dorky thing could've been better exploited if she were actually trying to impress the king with her own magical abilities too. Like from the jump. Then have her grow over time when she makes the wish. She isn't a bad character but I am also tired of the adorkable trend

[@ShadowKitty7908]

@@TheRibottoStudios Fr. Then it would have made the whole “Fairy god mother” job feel more earned.

[@chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031]

Frozen = toxic shit timeline. Mine is FAR superior.

[@andreafraustoz]

is funnier that Ainbo a Peruvian movie made Ainbo very quirky but reliable than Asha since she inspred by Moana even she's native Amazon

[@the-ma-an]

Not to mention they had defining personalities and goals, and weren't just quirky for the sake of being quirky; Mirabel was an underdog in the Madrigal family whose strength was her empathy, Raya didn't trust anyone but had to learn to trust again in order to save her father, Anna just wanted to be there for Elsa, and Rapunzel had a desire to see the world outside her tower. Also, it's strongly hinted that Rapunzel and Anna were socially awkward because they were isolated for so long.

[@lovemesomemoss4260]

I work at a movie theater and I can honestly say I think the kids have noticed a dip in quality, even at the end of minimally impactful movies they come out really excited telling their parents who their favorite character was or singing one of the songs under their breath, but I really havent seen that from any kids coming out of wish, they just kind of shuffle out of the theater and go home. The parents are not too happy either.

[@ismeza76]

Your on the field report is valued 🤣👌

[@bitchassmoththing]

when LITERAL CHILDREN know that your shit is mid you need to reevaluate your workflow

[@Hadeto_AngelRust]

they could be spending money anywhere else too.

[@TheKnellBelle]

Lol the parents are wondering what the heck they just paid $60 for.

[@katlyndobransky2419]

I work at an AMC and I too didn’t really notice many happy kids after watching Wish… after Encanto and Spiderverse I noticed many happy people. Hell kids were happy about Trolls. Not with Wish

[@sarahc364]

Love him or hate him, Lin Manuel Miranda puts a TON of effort into the stuff he writes and genuinely is quite clever with his lyrics & song structures. He understands musical theater and how to write songs in that setting - it’s why his work translates so well to animated Disney movies like Moana & Encanto that use traditional theater cues for their songs. You cannot put two pop writers in and expect them to create a product anywhere near what LMM would make. And it’s fairly obvious that’s what they’re trying to do; the rhythm & stylistic choices all heavily remind me of LMM’s work, but when you don’t have the skill set or extensive experience that LMM does it’s sort of a given the product is going to be… not very good. If they wanted songs that sounded like LMM I don’t understand why they couldn’t just get him to do it. At the very least, they could have hired somebody who also had experience writing in a theater setting 😭😭

[@seastar-qw2qg]

Facts

[@ChesuMori]

Anna saying "totally" is anachronistic? In any piece of fiction with a character speaking your native tongue when realistically they wouldn't be, isn't the assumption that you're hearing a translation? Like, Elsa wouldn't know what a fractal is either, right?

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

He means how it’s used in modern language as a bit of slang when Anna’s movie takes place so much earlier than the modern time. Fractal isn’t a common word but it’s not a slang word and it was still around back then

[@ChesuMori]

@@OrigamiAhsoka ...Right, but it doesn't matter, because canonically they're not speaking English, modern or otherwise. We're just hearing it as modern English.

[@moaharbor]

@@ChesuMori "totally" stands out because it's something we directly associate with modern times, unlike "fractal"

[@ChesuMori]

@@moaharbor ...As is the word "you" to refer to a singular person. Again. They're not speaking English, let alone modern English.

[@moaharbor]

@@ChesuMori Well yeah, but some words just have a more modern feeling to them. "Totally" is something I would assosciate with a modern teenager, while "you" is something that's just a word.

[@BrendanJSmith]

I remember back when Frozen came out people were saying Disney had entered a new Renaissance. Looking back, we couldn't have been more wrong. The 2010s and 2020s would be more accurately described as Disney's "Too Big To Fail" era. Weaponizing nostalgia and buying out the competition so they don't have to try anymore. And how poetic that a year that was supposed to be Disney's huge 100-Year celebration immediately became their worst year of all time on all accounts. Happy fucking 100 years, Disney. You don't deserve to make it to 200.

[@urbanphoenix09]

I do think it had a mini renaissance, when you consider how things were going before Tangled, which is NOT GOOD. Now we’re back to “dark ages” 70-80s era struggles or 2000s struggles, but these things always cycle. The thing that made the 90s renaissance happen was musical theater numbers, and the 2010s renaissance was 3D animation. We’ll have the find the next big thing for the next renaissance

[@miaumiaumiaumiaumiauou]

this is really well said. i feel like all corporations nowadays feel like they can get away with doing this shit, and they actually can. people wouldn't stop buying from mcdonald's if they put small doses of rat poison in every mcgriddle. too many people are relying on the capitalist system because it's all they know, and it's going to lead to even bigger sacrifices of quality to make up for the immense quantities that industrialization calls for

[@themask6301]

Frozen is the blueprint for everything that’s wrong with Disney nowadays. Thanks to its ridiculous hype and success, Disney movies now have to feature the shoehorned meta-textual critique against their older movies ("you can’t marry a man you just met 🥴"), the plot twist villain for the sake of a plot twist villain, a ridiculous amount of plot-holes, forgettable songs (except Let it Go), a useless sidekick and love interest, and the annoying, adorkable princess (they tried way too hard to make Anna so RelaTable and not-like-other-girls). And god forbid the princess falls in love now, because "I’m too quirky for romantic love." Like, there’s nothing wrong with subverting classic Disney tropes and I don’t expect every Disney movie to be all about romantic love - heck, there are plenty of Disney movies prior to Frozen whose themes don’t involve around romantic love - but it can be done without insulting older movies and feeling so proud about it. Enchanted did this pretty well. Now, who knows how long the Frozen tropes will last? Thanks, Frozen, you sucked out all of the Disney magic. I’ll hate you forever (no, I’ll never "leT iT GoOooO").

[@flyingstapler1241]

@@themask6301 Do the new movies actually insult princesses who fall in love? I can only think of Elsa warning Anna and she was justified in it. Plus Anna still ended up with a guy she met in 1 day.

[@themask6301]

@@flyingstapler1241 Anna falling in love-at-first-sight came out of nowhere, because the movie didn’t establish that romantic love is something that she has talked about or has fantasized about before. It was simply jammed in there. Her ending up with the second guy she meets is also laughably hypocritical, because it undermines the whole message the movie kept hammering across that one shouldn’t fall in love-at-first-sight with someone, because you don’t know if you can trust them just yet. In regards to Elsa, after being locked away from her sister, keeping to herself, she all of a sudden has that deadpan expression and says in the most condescending tone possible when Anna tells her that she and Hans want to get married? It just doesn’t make sense to her character. The whole movie was a mess. The metatextual critique is found in Moana and in pretty much all live-action remakes. I highly recommend Lindsay Ellis’ review of Beauty and the Beast (2017), her criticisms of that remake perfectly apply to Frozen, which precedes B&B ‘17. She aptly breaks down everything that’s wrong with modern Disney.

[@CanonessEllinor]

Just based on the clips and promotional images, what weirds me out about this film is that it doesn’t really seem to have a visual identity beyond… violet? Most memorable Disney films have a strong sense of place and a visual identity so distilled that you can boil it down to a keychain design while still being recognizable. Take a film like Encanto, everything about that production SCREAMS South America. The color choices, the simulated materials, the prop designs, the plant life, the costumes, even the lighting. You look at a still from that movie and you just know you’re in Colombia. Same thing with Moana: bright pacific sunlight, wood, reeds and flowers, lush vegetation juxtaposed with crystal water. Or even Frozen with its Norwegian wood carvings, folk patterns and pale northern daylight. This movie though? It’s supposed to be set in a fairy tale version of Iberia, but it just looks like an eerily clean generic fantasy setting populated by LARPers recruited off the streets of LA. It all looks weirdly fake and unmoored from any real culture, which isn’t an issue I’ve had with a Disney movie before. I guess what I’m trying to say is that the world of Wish looks like you ordered a Disney movie from Wish.

[@faithlernerason3200]

Finally! When I look at clips of this movie it just feels set in fantasy Europe not any specific place with a specific thing

[@eatatjoes6751]

The film looks like it's set in a miniature Disneyland.

[@yasmineh.1333]

I was convinced that this whole time it was supposed to take place in North Africa, and I got very bitter at the missed opportunity. I even had an idea about using traditional North African jewelry to support the whole 'Star' motif this movie is supposed to have. Oh well. I'm kind of glad I was wrong, in a way.

[@yasmineh.1333]

@@eatatjoes6751 Honestly I wouldn't even be surprised if that was on purpose.

[@Drekromancer]

@@yasmineh.1333 That would have been fucking sick. I'd love to see that movie.

[@jonathanbowling3129]

Just found this channel. Liked and subscribed! I had no idea the Honey Badger guy had started reviewing movies and tv shows. It’s perfect! 😍

[@JK-zl2ux]

Hey Schaf I just wanted to make sure ur doin good. I love ur videos so much man and I love u. Take care ✊

[@WeeabossVA]

The fact that "I'm Just Ken" and "Rafael's Final Act" from Baldur's Gate 3 turned out to be better "Disney villain songs" released this year than whatever the heck Disney themselves put out with "This is the Thanks I Get?" is just... bafflingly.

[@4deleDaz33m]

And that's sad to hear knowing that Julia Michaels wrote the songs for the movie, if you looked at her experience writing songs for other artists, you know that she's very talented but idk why her songwriting here is absolutely forgettable eventhough i did like "This Is The Thanks I Get" 😂. Glad that Barbie did well with Mark Ronson (yeah that Uptown Funk guy) as the songwriter

[@ttry1152]

Yea. Like does disney just like flood there offices with like uncreative gas or something like that?

[@coal159]

not a fair comparison, Baldurs gate 3 is made by talented people and Wish is made by AI. And Ryan Gosling is Ryan Gosling

[@sporeham1674]

​@@coal159Ryan Gosling my beloved.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

You have to realize this is the first PROPER villain we've had since 2016. IF you count Tamatoa and his number. Or Te Ka but she didn't sing. It makes sense they're a bit rusty with the villain number. But the character himself is great honestly. Chris Pine killed it per usual

[@TheAlterose]

You know, reading about how the King's whole deal was that he was well loved by his kingdom but once people start questioning his judgement, he repeatedly goes off on the idea of "This is the thanks I get for all the good I've given you?!", I couldn't help but sort of think- "Huh, that's almost a very back handed acknowledgment of how Disney as a whole takes critiques nowadays". Also I will laugh that the friend betrayal bit was basically spoiled in the first trailer in the sense of you see that character getting their wish granted by the king lol

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

It's almost like the team responsible for making the trailers asked someone to find cool looking scenes. Then that someone decided to check out Wish without paying attention to the narrative and thought "a guy becoming a knight" looks really cool and should be used as an example of King Magnifico's wish granting power.

[@SpinDuality]

Honestly, I was rooting for the king because the people was just treating his position like it was nothing. Like, that's your king, you cannot just go off infront of people like that.

[@SarcasticAriel]

@@SpinDuality also the king is right. Not all wishes can or should be granted.

[@Furienna]

@@SarcasticAriel It is not about that, it is about that he stole their wishes and parts of their personalities. Then he would only grant their wishes if it benefited him.

[@ricardosnowbacks6404]

@@Furienna We did not steal, they all agreed to give their wishes to i'm.

[@Coufu]

This review is more entertaining than the movie. I could watch you rant about the problems of Wish for the full length of a feature film (or more)

[@governmentshugedick8735]

I dont know but Wish’s animation style looks like a fcking work in progress, unfinished product

[@creepysleaper3949]

they were going for a water color type look iirc but the fact that it’s so barely noticeable is an embarrassment, _especially_ for a company with as much money as d*sney has

[@huntercool2232]

Disney has just completely forgotten about the saying *”quality over quantity.”* Did you know that the writers at Disney were once given 6 whole months to write out a story? Why have film companies just completely forgotten about that it doesn’t matter how long it takes to make film, all that matters is that the film turns out good! If a movie is good, it’s likely that people are gonna watch it! Many people today don’t care as much anymore about deadlines, THEY JUST WANNA SEE A GOOD MOVIE!! Plus it gets people all the more hyped up when the movie does eventually come out! The only way Disney can save themselves now is if they just stop, take a step back, and reevaluate everything and start fresh. Because what they’ve been doing is getting exhausting to watch.

[@CarloNassar]

Finally, someone has an idea/solution (a good one, too). I've seen too many other people just want them to fall.

[@felixorozco4055]

6 months is almost nothing to write a story though.

[@nailinthefashion]

For you. It's exhausting for you. Your expectations are in your way. Wish is a really fun film, I laughed, I cried, I sang. Turning Red, like, everything modern has been incredible even if the general audience doesn't "get it" Strange World is one of my favourite films of all time, doesn't need to be a universal beloved classic to be that for me. It's niche, as it should be, as Wish is. It's about a fairy God mother origin, not yet another princess but something unique and y'all take that for granted too, but its whatever. It exists, so I'm happy

[@felixorozco4055]

@@nailinthefashion I'm glad you found enjoyment in them. While I don't love these movies, I don't think they are as bad as people make them out to be, but i understand expecting lore from the biggest studio in the world. Don't enjoy wish, personally, but Turning Red was cool. My favourite of these modern films has been Luca.

[@nailinthefashion]

@@felixorozco4055 Wish is a fairy god mother origin story but people are sooooo cynical and want so much, they ignore what's in front of them. The lore is right there. They gave us a perfectly delicious film, but not everyone eats at the same restaurant. That's what people don't get nowadays, not liking something doesn't mean it's bad, and if you take someone's word for it without watching it that's literally what Magnifico wants lol. Blissful ignorance One of the stories I've worked on hasn't gone public outside of friends in over a decade lol. These people don't even know what true patience is let alone what can be accomplished quickly if given enough resources 🧚🏽‍♀️🧍🏾‍♂️

[@SoldierDelta]

With Wish's critical failure, I want to point out this year in Disney as a whole. If we're talking major pictures that they expected to make money, they released Ant-man: Quantumania, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, The Little Mermaid, Elemental, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny, Haunted Mansion, The Marvels and Wish. That's a respectable amount of film releases and would've made for an excellent 100th anniversary for the studio if all or even most of them were successful. Of the above, only two managed to get a 70 or above on Rotten Tomatoes, with the majority also being box office bombs or not very successful. Those successful films? Elemental, the polarizing Pixar film that only just survived it's box-office run by being a sleeper-hit... and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3, a film that wouldn't exist if it weren't for James Gunn's dedication to the series, a notably anti-Disney film taking potshots at several aspects of their business and the last directorial effort from Gunn due to his change in role to head of the new DC universe. Their nostalgia bait efforts aren't working despite the slate of live-action remakes on the horizon, the MCU is gasping for air under the weight of high-budget productions with minimal returns both in critical and commercial areas despite having more releasing next year, LucasFilm is keeping with their track record of flops after flops despite having more Star Wars films planned to release when interest is at an all-time low, and the animation studios are only able to survive by good word-of-mouth which isn't a guarantee given their continuous mixed track record. Disney was a place for artists 100 years ago.

[@averymorse4964]

You just made me realize that I haven't watched a single Disney related release in their entire 100th anniversary year. None felt worth watching :(

[@brianaboston1351]

Correction: Disney was a place for old white male artists 100 years ago.

[@twotruckslyrics]

@@averymorse4964same here…. 😭

[@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421]

100% based. If they made outright bad movies that everyone hated, then that would still give them some public attention, but they're not. Their best films now are occasionally considered just above average, as in a "I recommend this IF... " scenario, and their worst films are just passed off as boring and not worth your time in any way. Yes, they get trashtalked for their bad treatment of staff members and transparent production costs, but that's not something you're guaranteed to catch on to when you actually watch the movie

[@Attmay]

Flagged for racist Misandrist ageist hate speech.

[@bruh666]

So glad you mentioned the bland poppy sound of the music. This problem already started all the way when they released Tangled and Frozen, although those had a blend of both traditionally musical-sounding and more poppy songs. Same with Encanto though that was even more poppy. The musical songs in Moana I honestly didn't even really like at all because they didn't sound like musical songs at all to me.

[@spooneater9001]

On the point of king magnifico, I was hoping it was a "I am protecting Rosas" and then realizing "is my interest really in protecting Rosas? Who am I to judge what is best for the people?" Kind of thing

[@MediaDroid960]

Apathy’s a tragedy, and boredom is a crime

[@chiangkai-shrek1575]

Anything and everything, all of the time

[@loowooillust]

Can I interest you in anything all of the time

[@oddlittlepumpkin458]

@@chiangkai-shrek1575oop beat me to it

[@F.R.E.D.D2986]

@@loowooillust If I wake up in a house that's full of smoke, I'll panic

[@oddlittlepumpkin458]

@@loowooillustA bit of everything all of the time

[@winsonwieny6720]

It’s tragic how this has to be one of Disney’s worst years in probably ever. Especially when it’s currently their 100th anniversary. ☠️

[@dariusmcclain5584]

A year that was supposed to celebrate Disney’s past wound up being a really bad sign for their future

[@TomLegobro21]

I wouldn’t go that far, I’d say 2018 is worse considering how awful Ralph Breaks the Internet and half baked Incredibles 2 was, plus we did get Once Upon a Studio which was great. But I do agree it is a shame considering it’s meant to be Disney’s 100th anniversary!!

[@hunterolaughlin]

@@TomLegobro21Do some of the stuff outside of Disney Animation count like Black Panther and Avengers: Infinity War?

[@emuanon34]

They already botched their 100th year by having a hand in causing the strikes and finding a genocide.

[@kachow2461]

@@TomLegobro21financially speaking though, I’m sure they are doing worse this year cuz 2018 had Black Panther and infinity war

[@imitation_doll]

i was so looking forward to this movie all year, like many others i couldn’t wait to see a return to disney’s roots!! wish looked very promising in the beginning. sleeping beauty is my favorite disney movie and i was so excited that they were returning to that aspect ratio/visual inspiration. but wish really fell flat, which honestly breaks my heart. for me, one of my biggest gripes with it is the lack of an emotional core. i understand why asha wants to free the wishes, but i don’t feel that investment/energy within it. i would be really interested to hear others thoughts, because i didn’t feel much in the movie or respond to the emotional beats… what were intended to be the main driving emotional moments?? i watched this movie last night 😭 the most moving scene to me was probably asha’s “this wish” song, although that’s more due to ariana debose’s incredible vocal work. wish is just emblematic of why many of disney’s recent works have not been doing it for audiences. the creative team has what it takes to make an incredible film (encanto!!!) but it’s the higher ups that really limit them and their output. all in the names of bottom lines, projections, and getting content out. and the thing with disney’s middling output is, that there’s great potential within it. that infamous frozen 2 documentary just shows how the creatives weren’t given the time and planning they needed to execute the film well, and the film ended up being a vague slog. but it could’ve been so much more!! just the concept of anna and elsa reconciling with their past/family’s history is a very intriguing concept, and i wish it could’ve gotten the respect it deserves. the same with raya, there were some fantastic ideas in there, like sisu’s family and the dynamic between the nation’s tribes. my favorite scene is when naamari is traveling through the dragon statues and stops to pay her respects, it’s such a lovely thoughtful moment. there is the potential for greatness here and i wish the creatives were just able to go wild and have fun without management looming over their heads and not understanding what makes for a good movie!!

[@thesmarteststikbot8746]

One thing I think could've been interesting to see is if Asha's friend who forgot his wish (can't remember his name), wasn't possessed by King Magnifico. If they wanted to show the dangers of handing your wish, a part of who you are, to someone else, I think it would've been more effective if they fleshed out his desire to know his wish again more. Imagine if we saw him being so desperate that he willingly would've hunted Asha down instead of being possessed. It would've made the message that we should take charge of our wishes and desires more powerful.

[@4deleDaz33m]

It's pretty embarrassing and sad to know that the movie's screenplay and story was co-written by the CCO of Walt Disney Animation Studio. As a CCO, you expect something big from the leader herself when she also dropped the ball in telling this story

[@danielgudinojuarez6729]

She used to be a regular writer of the studio, until 2018 when Jennifer was given the keys as CCO after that drunken creep left for good. Thankfully, Disney animation has become better yet this film didn't stick the landing as before. Since I'm seeing it this Sunday, hoping the film doesn't suck

[@4deleDaz33m]

@@danielgudinojuarez6729 I know, anyone who have worked long in Disney like Jennifer Lee, Pete Docter, Clark Spencer will get promoted as head of whatever department at Disney. I get that John Lasseter is a creep but damn the guy did Disney better than whatever Lee is doing right now 🤷

[@AJ-xc4qe]

I can't help but think she was chosen because she just so happened to make what would become the highest grossing animated movie of all time and has been pressured into keeping the Frozen franchise alive while also overseeing so many projects. It would be like if Stephen Hillenburg was hired as the head of Nickelodeon Animation Studios mostly for the oversaturated success of his cartoon.

[@ahmedmaklad6527]

@@4deleDaz33m those were false accusation he was pushed by a bunch of outraged women who took advantage of the me too movement

[@ickicynicky4890]

wth is this comment @@ahmedmaklad6527

[@Frenchaboo]

The worst part is that it feels like a waste of Asha's character design. It's a little bland, but I'm sure she means a lot to a lot of people. Kids who look like her deserve a better movie.

[@sweetumami1338]

Disney has a track record of letting their diverse main characters flop in their respective media. I can’t even hate strange world or whatever it’s called bc I just feel bad that it was like hindered in its production and was definitely not marketed bc of its gay lead

[@ladydiamond6611]

Thank you, I was looking forward to a black girl with braids.

[@dakuten7883]

As a black girl myself who was really excited to see a character with braids, all I could think about was how this was a waste of the design

[@tinymittensdesign]

This! Asha's design is cute. Is it basic? Yeah. But basic doesn't mean bad. Basic can be enjoyable. But when you put a bunch of terrible things together, it just...does not go well.

[@KashaLupul]

I'm black and Hispanic and I hate Asha.

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

Here’s another plot hole- when the queen and dahlia are looking through the evil book, they use “obsidian oil to protect against the evil” why didn’t the queen give that to magnifico when he first started using the book, if she was worried about him?

[@thekoifishcoyote8762]

This is year 100. How many other companies can claim they're 100 years old? This should have been their BEST movie but they barely even tried.

[@damonlam9145]

This film felt like what Disney believed the fans wanted by crossing off a bunch of boxes on a checklist without putting much effort into any of the tasks on the list.

[@madsceptictrooper6803]

Yeah, that is the exact vibe I got from this movie.

[@billcorbeau8981]

Perfectly summed up thank you

[@drdewott9154]

"See we have the recipe for profit, this is what people want right? Now crank up the factory, we have a shareholder payout soon"

[@belfreak_386]

Problem with Disney is that they don’t let the writers, storyboards, and directors take their time to flesh out their stories and characters. Disney just wants to keep pumping rushed works out in theaters than taking their time so that the stories can take more time in the oven for it to be great! Arcane, Puss In Boots 2, Spiderverse and other great films took their time in development within their movies. Disney doesn’t do that anymore. They don’t care if their movies are ready, if their even good or not. They don’t care anymore.

[@carlotta4th]

Studios (amd Disney) have always tried to stick to deadlines regardless of product. You've already sunk in time and money, and they don't want to delay. Usually it turns out awful, but every now and then the crunch gives us something good like Emperor's new groove.

[@winifredeghrudje9427]

Sadly that’s every studio not just Disney 😩

[@whistlebird]

I don't have an inside view, but I feel like this is a big part of the issue. Most of the recent movies just feel half baked and missing an important ingredient or two, live actions and other IPs included. They all have so much potential and the suggestion of something that could have been great if it wasn't rushed into and out of the oven. They're beautiful on the outside but full of giant holes and they taste just a bit off. And all the more disappointing for what they could have been. Disney has very talented people working for them but they forget that writers need time and space to breath if creativity is going to flourish. I think Disney could easily make magic again if they just let their people create.

[@Morfe02]

Indeed Disney even cancelled GIGANTIC a movie about Jack and the giants Good job and then they release what movies ? The panda the dragon Ralph 2 i Guess all bad or mid

[@thekrogg137]

This is based on nothing but speculation, but I think a big part of this is because of Disney+. They invested a lot of money into their entry in the streaming wars, and in order to turn a profit they need enough content to convince people to stay subscribed and maybe, hopefully, attract new subscribers. I bet they've done the math and have found that they need to be able to announce a certain number of movies "coming only to Disney+" per year, which tightens the deadlines and forces them to release half-baked products in order to feed the ever-hungry streaming service.

[@jstar3382]

5:44 OK I NEED TO INFORM YOU OF THIS. GASTON IS THE REASON WHY EGGS ARE SO EXPENSIVE. He eats so many eggs and has driven the supply for eggs down to the bottom, driving up price

[@eva_ngeline9665]

10:07 I THOUGHT THAT!! Watching this movie, during every song, my brain kept screaming, "It sounds like the Hamilton soundtrack!!!"

[@c.khullabaloo4745]

I remember seeing a tweet made by someone who worked on the film and they said that they really wanted to make something special but executive meddling took hold and basically controlled the entire project. It honestly makes me sad seeing the reception it's getting. Like you'd think the company would make something really really special for their 100th anniversary. But executives do what executives do best: ruin everything they touch.

[@Mapleleaf865]

I remember seeing something similar and they felt bad with how it turned out

[@gloomy_ava]

do u possibly have a link to the tweet?

[@theflickchick9850]

I definitely would like to check out the art book for this reason even if it makes me sad that the art is better than the movie.

[@ArthurDeaville]

Bob Iger clearly seems to want to target core Disney only to toddlers these days

[@ferminmarkpousada1455]

Do you have the tweet?

[@ballsmcgee7783]

Honestly would have loved a plot where Asha believes the King is evil and wrong for what he does, but her trying to do something about it is what unleashes the actual evil/villain and her and the king work together to stop it and she learns about restraint and moderation. Make a message about dreams being important, but things should be tempered by logic and reason.

[@LoneSilverW0lf]

Before the movie came out there was a post about the short preview. When I saw that the king “keeps the dangerous and frivolous wishes” and my first thought was “how is keeping the bad and dumb wishes unfulfilled make him the bad guy? Is the show going to make the girl the ‘bad guy’ who needs to fix the bad wishes getting granted?” And this review isn’t helping my nigh nonexistent desire to see it any. You’d think it’d be a pretty easy cut and dry story of hard work and such to achieve your goals. But I guess expecting basic storytelling is asking to much.

[@Kingdom850]

@@LoneSilverW0lf Be real though, his refusal to return the wishes even in just that clip alone was such a huge red flag.

[@just_a_silly_weenie008]

Or if evil was let out and the king is corrupted, and Asha has to stop the king? Then she'd learn from her ways and have a flaw (which modern protags can't have, for some reason). That or an evil being manifests from an evil wish, and they're the big bad.. With a song! :0 Thats just my opinion, I still like your idea, just wanted to toss in my own 😅

[@LoneSilverW0lf]

@@Kingdom850 I didn’t see that he wouldn’t return the wishes or that the wishes were even completely severed from the person. The clip I saw must’ve been shortened and/or edited.

[@nailinthefashion]

​@@LoneSilverW0lfYou're letting someone else's interpretation tell you what it's about. It IS cut and dry, it IS a simple story about believing in yourself. It's literally about not letting someone else tell you how to feel or live. Channels like this ARE MAGNIFICOS! They are telling people they know better, they're the arbiters of animation and media, you don't need to waste your money on a film that interests you! Just sit at home and hate it! Don't see for yourself, don't think for yourself. Just agree! I think it's ironic. Schaf would sing that song if you disagree. "I watched the film so you don't have to, and this is the thanks I get?" Yes. Because the commentary is awesome but so is the film, DESPITE its flaws or setbacks like them juggling Bob CEOs who are so out of touch they don't get how an all straight white cast across multiple projects is alarming lmao. This is by far my most favourite Disney film and Asha is my favourite character. We're so alike and she's not a princess but something different, not more important or less, but a part of the magical tapestry that is modern Disney.

[@tealishpotato]

Disney: "It's our centennial anniversary! Let's make an animated musical about wishes and magic and kingdoms to celebrate our roots! I just have absolutely NO idea who we should hire to make the musical numbers...?" Alan Menken: HELLO?? AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

[@notthecolorgray-yq7lb]

I have't seen the movie yet, but from what I get throughout the reviews is that King Magnifico could have been such a good villain with a good song, kinda like a Emperor Belos and Scar mashed together, but the writing just didn't let that happen.

[@ewbait]

It should have been a 2D movie and that's painfully clear. I would have watched it just BECAUSE it would be 2D. I'm sure many of the animators at the studio would have loved to do it, but I'm sure executives disagreed. I suppose that's what happens when you abandon 2D animation for nearly 2 decades. Either by attrition of talent or corporate interference.

[@Genoh_]

Being 2D would not have made the script or the songs better. Wish still would be mid even if it was 2D.

[@cameronbosch1213]

​@@Genoh_But at least it would have stood out. The released version barely stands out in any way, good or bad. It's just like they didn't finish the movie and only finished part of Frozen 3! 😂

[@Genoh_]

@@cameronbosch1213 problem is, if they barely tried for the 3D animation, then I have no doubt that a 2D film would've been so painfully average to look at that it would've embarrassed Disney further. Lots of 2D animated projects have raised the bar for Disney, such as Klaus or the newly released Scott Pilgrim anime. If the story is bad *and* the 2d animation was uninspiring, audiences would be furious.

[@blank7871]

@@Genoh_ You forget the fact that disney fans are so used to mediocre content, that seeing "NEW 2D MOVIE FROM DISNEY" as the main attraction, they will sell their right brain cortex to prove it's "good" in any way or form. (Disney fans are a lot, and im not including children)

[@Foervraengd]

They will never do a full 2D animation movie because the difference between 2D and 3D animation is the former is unionized and the latter isnt.

[@EmerialynCodeVenice]

Rhyming "Here I are" with "star" truly made me feel like this is a horror or satire film and they're just pranking us 😱

[@KTKomedy2813]

They fucking didn’t…!

[@brandonmclendon5368]

@@KTKomedy2813 They did, and it was awful

[@cloudshines812]

@@brandonmclendon5368Listen to any modern rap song. I DARE YOU to tell me if there is ONE creative rhyme

[@serenitysubs933]

HERE I ARE?

[@shravyamishra1033]

You know, Disney could have done the "too nice" trope, where the king is so kind that it is harming the city of Rosas. He fulfills EVERY wish and feels underappreciated. Asha could have been the voice of pragmatism while all the city is in chaos due to their wishes being fulfilled one after the other. This song matchs the vibe. Also, the line 'be careful what you wish for', on the movie's poster would be matching the theme, this way.

[@Shadowbugfanmades]

Is it just me or does anyone else feel like Encanto is more of the 100th Anniversary Disney movie then Wish is. Disney should have waited a few more years to release Encanto as the 100th Anniversary Movie in 2023 and release Wish in 2021 instead of Encanto cause unlike Encanto, Wish does not feel like a 100th Anniversary movie in my opinion.