Guilt and Forgiveness: Pleasing God with R.C. Sproul

The central message in Scripture is one of forgiveness. The believer in Jesus Christ can have real assurance that the guilt from sin is no more, and that forgiveness has been freely granted. Jesus says that He who the Son sets free is free indeed. So how is it that many believers do not “feel” free? Dr. Sproul considers this question as he helps us deal with the issue of “Guilt and Forgiveness.”
This is the 6th in a series of messages by Dr. Sproul on pleasing God. See other videos in the series: • Pleasing God - R.C. Sp...

[@loretodacio3210]

Wish I heard this message earlier, the past 2 decades of my life would’ve been lived so differently

[@shanarose.o]

the the first step of change today💗

[@patrickc3419]

Same here.

[@festushaggen2563]

I'm always impressed by the fact that older sermons sound like they could be preached today. They're just as relevant since our condition never changes. Just as the Bible is as applicable today is when it was written. A testament to God's word and our common traits that transcend the generations.

[@stickerlady1774]

Trucker_Pete As well as God never changes.

[@singer4god88]

Amen Trucker Pete 😀🙏👏

[@Kalamity_Bane]

I had the same thought watching this. It’s really awesome. You read something like Romans 1 and it feels like it was written yesterday.

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

Truth never changes.

[@NoreenHoltzen]

Thank you! I love your message that guilt is to be embraced. We eat chocolate proudly at our church so it is perfectly normal for our kids to not be let’s say athletic. I would not be ashamed of fatness as it is part of being a good Christian to tolerate guilt, and those that are not guilty might not be forgiven and thus might not reach heaven. I myself often have guilty feelings of not enough faith in God but I use this guilt to ask for forgiveness so I can be saved. I don’t think we should try to overcome our guilt but recognise it as part of being a Christian, even if it is difficult to live with. Even if we feel worse with this guilt, it I better to have it and know that we are true Christians. It brings us down, but it brings us together. Together, and down. Only then we can be saved. Being fat, well I’m bot fat to myself but if you choose to identify 558 pounds as fat, then that is your choice, but being like this does make me feel guilt but from my faith I think guilt is not an unholy feeling even if it means pain. It is like turning your cheek when struck as we are taught and deeply a part of our faith of tolerance our sadness and sickliness - including being large. Faith also why I love America 🇺🇸 and we are unique here, we have a responsibility to change the world, and lucky to be an exception in the world - thus we can spread faith to others to help them to tolerate guilt of sin, guilt of leaning away, and guilt of eating chocolate. This brings Christians together and Jesus accepts you too, so if you feel guilty for chocolate, or guilt ou about anything, think about your faith firstly rather than trying to solve the problem. Under god we accept, we give in to our weakness, we don’t try to change our weaknesses.

[@drewbragg3109]

"If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand?"

[@freedomguru9449]

Brother, I am as wretched as they come. I need Jesus and that's the bottom line. God bless you.

[@Monjfrum]

Thank you.

[@jayonnaj18]

I dearly l-o-v-e the teaching/preaching of the late R.C. Sproul who is now enjoying being in the Presence of our precious Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!❤

[@Pilgrim182]

As always pastor Sproul, listening to you is like being in a far place sorrounded by nature sitting breathing pure air

[@whoathatsanicememe3093]

I picture this version of RC in heaven right now. I hope to meet him there…. he’s taught me so much.

[@36742650885]

Please pray for me everyone I need your intercession I’ve been suffering from depression and headaches and condemnation

[@stickerlady1774]

Tatersalad19 Cars I’m so sorry. Have you repented?

[@davidwiser3883]

I pray for you my brother in Christ.

[@chantalgonzalez2656]

I hope you're better:)

[@mekdarm.3964]

will be praying! :) look to Christ, rick; cling to the Gospel, with hands firm. trust in His promises. remind yourself of the Gospel everyday. every moment - we all need to! i hope you’re doing well sir.

[@lillyhall645]

Dr sproul is always inspiring to me!

[@NoreenHoltzen]

Our feeling of moving away from God is ironically what brings us closer to God. Feeling guilty it’s what makes us Christian. My non-Christian friends just don’t have this guilt but I’m afraid to separate from God to not reach heaven so I have no choice but to feel this guilt. I am sure that feeling guilt is really an important part of being a real Christian.

[@36742650885]

Please pray for me everyone who reads this that I be delivered from legalistic mindsets please pray that I come to the fullness of the Gospel of Christ And Delivered from dark forces

[@randycadkins]

Is there a name I can pray for you with? Not your full name obviously, just your first name, (and only if you want) if not, I'll still pray for you

[@36742650885]

Randycadkins Rick Carson

[@randycadkins]

@@36742650885 ok, I'll keep you in my prayers, pray for me also, we all need prayer because none of us are perfect, but if you would, pray for me to be more loving. I believe what will help us the most is prayer and Bible study, and applying what God tells us, love is one thing that I know I need more of, then I believe all else falls into place. God bless

[@BEiche-lp1jb]

I am likewise praying for you Rick!

[@reformedwretch2071]

I need the same prayers bro. I have been struggling with assurance for months, might even be more than a year now. I feel really depressed and forsaken quite frequently; I have even thought (blasphemously) that God doesn't listen nor care for me :/

[@roryoshea6340]

"Though it is painful to be brought to awareness of one's sin, there is something very very sweet about it. At the same time that He [the Holy Spirit] tells us we are guilty, He assures us we are forgiven. He comes to us not as somebody trying to destroy us but Satan's accusation is designed not redeem us but to destroy us."

[@seedgreen]

Who do you confess sin to?

[@solbraide3450]

I'm so amazed by the wisdom God gave RC. Blessed be the name of the Lord.

[@vaianesone3154]

Amen

[@peterjansen3846]

Few great Reformed theologians had the teaching skills of Dr Sproul. He could explain the deepest Biblical truths in a way that everyone could understand.

[@Monjfrum]

This text has been a favorite of mine for over 40 years. I always applied it to future judgment. I have never seen in terms of dealing with the guilt of the present. Wonderful message!!

[@EnnioSabata]

This sermon did so much for me. God bless R.C. Sproul.

[@logansweet4190]

Dr. Sproul you will be missed. One of the best theologians of our day. I hope more of us learn from him and spread his teachings. His teachings arent on the same level as scripture because he could be wrong on some things, but he was a great teacher and we need more younger theologians who are as committed to biblical truth as he was.

[@chumbucket5109]

Logan Sweet he died??? What when?

[@logansweet4190]

@@chumbucket5109 Dec. 14 2017. It was a big loss in the Christian community.

[@ChrisTheFlake]

Yes he is which isn't saying much unfortunately. Nowadays, it seems as though most haven't even read the entire bible.

[@zzzzz77771]

Well said. May God rise up another sproul- like Christian to teach and edify the new generation. What a blessing it is to have his words still in video and written form. I've learned so much RC over the years, I look forward to meeting him.

[@SuitableHelper]

@logansweet4190 What is he wrong about? Can you give examples please! I love listening to his sermons. Just curious…

[@user-we2qv1cx6x]

Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment is by far the best representation of guilt in literature. Phenomenal novel.

[@randycadkins]

A timely message indeed, when people are stuck on social media...

[@randycadkins]

@Trevo Studen it (could be used as a tool) but most of the time it is much more of a distraction than anything else. But you do have a point

[@skybordage3817]

J.D. Martin Theology Discussion Channel amen

[@pcareki1]

These kind of sermons. These kind of truths will last long after many of the self help books we read today have eroded away. Nothing is more relevant, contemporary and more freeing than the word of God. Thank you God for RC. ❤🙌

[@doroteojr.raging1512]

Amen thank you always Dr. R.C. Sproul

[@storminator1]

Thank you for this Jesus!!!

[@karlstgelais5204]

Thank you heavenly Father, in Jesus name for this message

[@newyorknight]

Dr Sproul reminds me of a police detective,he even looks the part. He was detecting those things of God through His word,and Dr Sproul put those clues together for us to figure out the mysteries of our Lord. Amen

[@prabhabagepalli3129]

Thank you for this wonderful piece of information about guilt and not feeling any guilt that is answering to our God called Christ🙏

[@arclemons1967]

That was simply awesome!💜✝️💜

[@MikeOzmun]

The idea that on the Day of Judgement, God will silence Satan's many accusations against me with a statement such as this is a thought almost too glorious to bear.

[@djv164]

Watching these videos I feel so blessed to have been able to be taught by RC! Praise the Lord for blessing us with such a wonderful teacher/preacher.

[@AztecWench]

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! I understand!!

[@nelsongonzalez4533]

The sense of guilt and the need for forgiveness. They compliment each other. So, forgive me God.

[@larrykoz4009]

Sure miss Dr Sproul, but so thankful for technology keeping his teachings available.

[@patriciataremwa9735]

Thank you for posting this. Thank you

[@chrisbeck4915]

Everyone should listen to Brokenness by Voddie Baucham for a breakdown of how God can forget our sins but we can't.

[@andrewd2114]

The holy spirit is for us! Love that

[@jennygrim2057]

Yes, the sweetness of conviction...very difference from condemnation 😢

[@vitaluz605]

This is a powerfuøø sermon served by dr Sproul. I love rhe way he explains and expounds rhe word of Gord in a plain an intelligible manner. So enriching and uplifting for our souls and faiith. He was devoted an faithfull believer and was an excellent very good lecturer

[@theresa42213]

BOY! Do l know what RC is speaking about here! l think many do! _ALL GLORY_ goes to The KING of kings, and LORD of lords! :)

[@jmonie02]

wow God is super real because this year was a eye-opening as hell. Ironically my last name is Harmon. God working his miracles.

[@pascalcjelninso6571]

God bless ❤

[@davidwiser3883]

Absolutely love R.C.! Mighty man of God!!!

[@rhondae8222]

Thanks for sharing the Word of God (Christ).

[@Gingerbread010]

I loved this sermon Ty God bless 🤍🕊🙏🏼

[@mauricebernardo9617]

Thank you LORD for giving us RC

[@john146istheonlyway8]

Amen. Thank you for sharing this. I used to think all pastors are in Christ as long as they say they are Christian. After being changed and reading the Bible, I was told to be weary and test the spirit of every pastor. RC is a man in Christ. Paul washer Video baucham John MacArthur Costi Hinn

[@freedomguru9449]

Paul Washer, John MacArthur, Vodie Baucham, Charles Lawson, Carter Conlin........all great men of God.

[@estherlockwood274]

Thank you Father God, thru RC You bring answer to us that struggle in our walk.

[@KBerean91]

Thanks for blessing me RC… I’m going through the most worst experience with this. Sorry for the things in my heart. Sorry for thinking you were a heretic. I’ve been listening to your teachings during this terrible time in my life and you have been a comfort to me. Thanks, God bless you sir. I hope you’re enjoying the presence of THE LORD.

[@patrickmorton7343]

Thank you very much for posting this. I really need to hear this sermon. God bless you.

[@kennedysicat294]

Thank you Dr. RC for your lectures. You are certainly helping a lot with my growth in our faith in God!

[@anthonymongelli5567]

He doesn’t condemn us for we do not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of GOD He has a short time so iet not your heart be troubled . Stronger is he who is in you than he who is is in the world Amen and Amen

[@John-hw5zp]

Thank you for this sermon

[@marymungai4429]

you have explained very well about guilt filthyness thanks for the power of the Holy ghost who asdires us of the forgiveness of sin that we are no more condemned. I will work for God with all my might to bring JHm respect and honor.

[@angelicwhisper]

I love Dr. Sproul and his Gift of wonderful comprehension of God's Word in his teachings. It is very good to hear again his voice to re-learn God's Word, God has blessed us with this very humble and great man of God, RC. Just notice that in this teaching there is something bit unclear as first. The lady getting married was indeed guilty of premarital sin together with her fiance and through ages, it is sin to God even to this day, though the world has become so liberated even in sexual activities. But then again RC pointed out that he visited the university Chaplain to consult about this matter, that they will soon to get married, and that the lady had repented (and must be her fiance as well, I suppose because they were Christians) but guilt still haunts the lady deeply. So this is why RC points out that God forgives sins and it is a reality at once, no matter what a person seems to feel. So now it is clear to me. :) God bless us all and may the Lord allow us to understand His Word always.

[@iggy1644]

Thank you, fully agree. In the clip RC seems to support the position that there was no premarital sin in the first place, which is problematic

[@armandsimmons6195]

@@iggy1644 he never did hahaha, it was the University Chaplain.

[@jeffostlind6225]

Zechariah is my favorite book of the Bible, and unfortunately rarely gets any preaching time even though it is so full of hope and mercy towards God's people. Dr. Sproul did a great job here

[@donaldmorgan1773]

This teaching spoke to me, I needed to hear this.

[@zoherliana5378]

Such a marvelous teaching! I am so blessed

[@NoreenHoltzen]

I used to feel guilty less often but since turning to Christ and church groups I have started to feel guilty more often. When driving away from Jesus I feel more confident but when returning to church, the guilt comes back. At church we bring it up sometimes and our group agreed that part of faith is to celebrate our guilt, because it keeps us clean and beneath Him. Encouraging guilt is be part of our Christian culture that we inherited. I would not be ashamed of guilt as it is part of being a good Christian, and those that are not guilty might not be forgiven and thus might not reach heaven. I myself often have guilty feelings of not enough faith in God but I use this guilt to ask for forgiveness so I can be saved. I don’t think we should try to overcome our guilt but recognise it as part of being a Christian, even if it is difficult to live with. Even if we feel worse with this guilt, it I better to have it and know that we are true Christians. It brings us down, but it brings us together. Together, and down. Only then we can be saved.

[@christopherreinhardt9787]

Perhaps this is a strange way of looking at it, but it helps me in my walk sister. Thank you :)

[@NoreenHoltzen]

@@christopherreinhardt9787 When you are ready, talk to Jesus. It is He who can save you, and He will listen to you. He favours the weak, as He shall save them from their guilt, and like them, you can be salvaged by Him also. Amen.

[@theotrotchie]

I needed to hear this.❤

[@VanessaIrene._]

Amazing, Amen! ♥️

[@gregcrowe8885]

Very helpful over and over. Thank You

[@guitarplayer1434]

But God demonstrates his love for us in this, that while we were still sinners.. We chose him-no... Christ died for us

[@williamiannucci2740]

I Love you RC but I don't know your new name seeing you passed out of this world so and are right now with the Lord , thankyou Jesus mine Christ for your Word that still is producing joy in us by your servant that is now a son of the LIVING God JESUS the very CHRIST as God with us for in the Son I see you my Father our Father Oh People of the LORD. Selah Amen SHALOM

[@kenkelble358]

Guilt the gift that keeps on giving. Cast it out.

[@queenfpbt1212]

My guilt so bad always in and out hospitals for suicide attempts.

[@thecarlitosshow7687]

This is man RC Sprout is great Theologian and its coming from an Orthodox Christian. :)

[@mamabear310]

Amen Amen Amen

[@derekober4928]

Thank you

[@philjackman3734]

There is NO condemnation for those in Christ Jesus

[@MannDP.105]

Thank you Jeus🎉❤🎉

[@anthonymongelli5567]

The Holy Spirit convicts us

[@AF0172]

The Catholic Church is the longest-enduring institution in the world. Beginning with the first Christians and continuing in our present day, the Church has been planted in every nation on earth.The Catholic Church has Jesus Christ as her founder, and in spite of heresy from within and hostility from without, she remains in the twenty-first century the steadfast guardian of belief in his life, death, and resurrection. The teachings and redemptive works of Jesus as told in the Gospels are expressed by the Church in a coherent and consistent body of doctrine, the likes of which cannot be found in any other Christian body. The history of the Catholic Church is long, complicated, and fascinating. As in the parable of Christ about the weeds that were sown in a field of wheat, evil and good have grown together in the Church from the beginning some noble, some notorious--who have left an indelible mark on the Church, while never losing sight of the saints, who have given living testimony to the salvation power of Christ in every age.

[@elizabethryan2217]

This is good. 👍👍👍

[@angelmd43]

The only way to get rid of guiltiness is repenting(being sorry and turning away from doing it) of that sin then you will be forgiven and have God's peace again.

[@WesW3187]

The only way to be rid of any kind of sin is to be forgiven by God. You stuck the word ‘then’ in there. It’s because we have been forgiven that we receive peace. It’s not ‘then’ we receive it. That makes it something we do.

[@angelmd43]

@@WesW3187 You have to give your life to Christ and obey the guidance of the Holy Spirit. That's in the Bible. I'm not going to argue with you. All ya'll want to do today is argue that's what is wrong with God's people. We are supposed have one mind. The mind of Christ. If you have the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit says don't argue. God bless!

[@marcosmontalvo9589]

Powerful

[@gregcrowe8885]

Very helpful Thank You

[@sambigg4620]

R.I.P Dr sproul ❤️🙏

[@jayllicampo97]

🤍🔥 Jesus 🔥🤍

[@opticalraven1935]

Satan reminds us of our past. Jesus reminds us of our future.

[@JG-201]

Does anyone knows if there is the complete class available?

[@i-changeus]

25:42 That edit leaves out some critical info that hopefully Sproul spoke?! DANGER. I think this video should be revised, even thought the first 23:30 minutes are amazing. If left un-revised I feel that it endorses promiscuity. She (24:33) indirectly admits guilt, but the chaplain endorses it as if 'culturally acceptable'? (24:16 "Things have changed" - chaplain) She IS guilty of sinning. God NEVER changes. People and culture change like the wind, and therefore info/text or footage needs to be added to this video to keep new believers from error. IF the girl and her fiancé truly confessed their sin THEN they will quickly make whatever changes necessary to avoid falling into temptation and sinning again. Then yes, she would be OBJECTIVELY forgiven and the SUBJECTIVE feelings would fade as she reads the word (as Sproul illustrates in the end). TRUE repentance brings conviction that brings change. This process is called 'Sanctification of the believer'.

[@subratee.banerjee]

💚

[@michaelangelo7204]

✝️🙏🏽

[@walterpaiva719]

Which year was this sermon? Feels like today.

[@booyaka870]

The feelings of guilt have very much to do with the objective guilt...why is Sproul saying the opposite and (yet) gives an example of a person whose guilt feelings and objective guilt agrees?

[@shirinmimashangva1040]

in which year is this lecture given??

[@rudolfhitler5165]

The last sentences of this preach is lighting thunder, really strike me.

[@resilientrecoveryministries]

good stuff. How does he speak like this, "There is a raw nerve that is screaming for attention in contemporary humanity . . ." And he looks a little like a young Columbo here.

[@skcoll3086]

RC Sproul was and is scripturally correct. Our security does not come from us, but from God and his word. We are born of God. He is faithful and will do as he promised. But Satan will do his best to make us believe otherwise. "You won't die," he said to Eva... What a liar the devil is ...

[@ChrisTheFlake]

why is this segment cut on his explanation of objective and subjective guilt regarding his students fornication?

[@peterflaten1521]

I want to know where he was going with that as well. It was probably deemed inaccurate bionically or boarder-line. I would like to think that my speculation is not true.

[@ChrisTheFlake]

@@peterflaten1521 I love r c but I'm pretty sure God is NOT objective in regards to judgement. He does not show favoritism but scriptures do point out if you are doing something you think is wrong and still do it, it IS a sin for you. Knowledge holds people accountable, this is part of the reason teachers are held to more accountability. An example would be if I presented you with a plastic button and told you it was a launching device for a nuclear warhead. I know it's just a broken piece of plastic to some old computer equipment, but you don't know that and you believe it's real. If I push the button it's not a sin, but if you do it is.

[@1australianbeacon]

I have asked this same question. Its crucial. Who cut this out with out r.c knowledge. Where is the full message. Using Victorian puritan ? Sin is sin she should have just confussed and moved on!!! Its a mockery of Gods WORD. Did any of you find the answer.

[@theDrewzy1]

Does anyone know what Bible version RC is using?

[@ranimungcal]

It might be NASB

[@Minotaur-ey2lg]

He dreams about being improperly dressed before he speaks because we wear our clothes not only as a statement of who we are, but also as armor. A suit says, “I’m fit to lead!”, silencing some potential naysayers.

[@jrpzjrpz24]

13:27

[@allen2879]

Why does he say “if” the devil exists and look at “accusation” in the Bible of Satan, does he not believe the devil is real?

[@timmartin6274]

Really? You picked out one phrase from this entire message and you ask "does he not believe the devil is real?" I hope you are just pulling our legs. Grace to you, Allen. Make sure you hear the whole thing.

[@johnwhoissavedbygrace9975]

He was speaking just a few moments prior about speaking to non-believers. I feel that it’s fairly obvious, and I’m not trying to be rude, that he was circling back to that. ‘If there is a devil’, sort of like how frank Turek when he says ‘if it’s true would you believe’, then he finishes his point. RC Sproul was just a man and a sinful man as we all are. But I can promise you, if the Bible spike it RC seemed to believe it. He’s not questioning the reality of satan. He was using language.

[@kurtn652]

Is the pope catholic?

[@ljjdcm]

Confusing because it is an error to believe that the Holy Spirit accuses and convicts a believer of their sins - unbelievers yes (“because they don’t believe in me”), believes no. Our own conscious accuses, convicts and condemns us. He convicts us believers of our righteousness (“because I go to my father“) in Christ. Jn. 16:8-15

[@kambolechituwo7216]

Consider Hebrews 12:6: For the Lord disciplines the one he loves, and chastises every son whom he receives.

[@ljjdcm]

Kambole Chituwo . Yes I’ve considered it and all I know is that it is distinct from the idea that the Holy Spirit convicts believers of sin -we sin every day and as Christians our conscious condemns us -we are sorry that we sin and we don’t want to sin -We need the Holy Spirit to convict us of righteousness in Christ through His finished work - without which we must dismiss the Hebrews 10 that says we can be made perfect in our conscience because of Jesus’s once and forever sacrifice that worked so we can have “no more consciousness of sins” versus the old sacrificial system that didn’t work where there is always “the reminder of sins”. I think the Lord tests and chastises us through circumstances.

[@tedprice5828]

Jesus said that when the Spirit comes He will convince the world of sin Haveyounow left the earth?

[@ljjdcm]

Ted Price in the world but not of the world- I’m a believer therefore the Holy Spirit is not convicting me of sin - the sin of unbelief in Christ.

[@aaceve1]

Larry Johnston This is why I’m Catholic. Go to the sacrament of confession and penance and it’s done! No more scruples!

[@delmar6863]

i just want to ask what denomination rc sprouls belonged? thanks

[@watercolourartincapetown2919]

I think reformed theology, especially his having studied in the Netherlands.

[@delmar6863]

Watercolour Art in Cape Town i am also a reformed believer but it was a regret to me that i spent more of my time in arminian group in the end i was alone in this belief most of them nver know the reformed belief

[@PrenticeBoy1688]

The Presbyterian Church in America, the PCA.

[@delmar6863]

Thanks

[@PrenticeBoy1688]

@@delmar6863 You're welcome. The PCA is the second largest Presbyterian denomination in the US.

[@singwithpowerinfo5815]

Stop living in guilt and fear of death and hell. Please consider that Christianity is wrong. It doesn’t contain “truth”. It is mistaken, at best. Leave Christianity and leave your guilt, your frustration, and your worry. Love your life. Just live it. Don’t focus on sins manufactured from manufactured rules. Just live life as best you can, apart from the lies of Christianity. You can actually find happiness if you leave the constant guilt and fear of death behind.

[@ridethelapras]

Surely "Joshua" is JESUS? Joshua Joshua was never a high priest. Only JESUS was. Zac can't have been talking about the Old Yeshua but the New one.

[@junevandermark952]

It's not, and never was, about pleasing a god. It was about pleasing the men that said that the gods were giving them messages, and that the messages were commandments from the gods, that MUST be followed. They lied!

[@junevandermark952]

I suggest that that religious word "sin," ought to be thrown into the archaic trash bin, and replaced with the non-religious word "behavior." Had we all been taught that we are born whole, rather than in "sin," the onus would be on us, as individuals, concerning how we treat each other. That word "sin," was meant to make us feel bad, not good, and it is not by chance, that preachers always point at others as being the sinners, and selves as being sin-free. You will see the lies ... but only when you are strong enough within your self, to be able to see.

[@WesW3187]

June VanDerMark What a lie. We are born in sin. I don’t know which church you go to, but I have never heard a preacher refer to himself as sinless.

[@junevandermark952]

@@WesW3187 So, are you claiming that even though you believe in Jesus, you are still full of sin? You can't have it both ways Wes. Either Jesus did the "trick" of removing your sin ... or believing in Jesus doesn't work "to" remove sin.

[@junevandermark952]

@@WesW3187 Following is a message for those who believe they see evil in “others.” … "Look at those nasty evil people over there, serving the devil." "WHERE???" "OVER THERE! ARE YOU "BLIND???" "I just see people over there." "YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO LEARN. HERE ... I will give you a Bible so you can spot evil when you see it." "No thanks! I don't want to believe that others are evil, as that might tempt me to believe that I am holy.”

[@WesW3187]

@@junevandermark952 I am still a sinner but Christ died for me. He took my penalty, so God sees me as free of sin. He has removed the penalty for my sin as far as the East is from the West. The problem is I have spent years in sin, so I still sometimes sin, and will do so until I reach Heaven. The wages of sin is death, but thanks to God He doesn’t see my sin. Satan will be standing there accusing me but I will declared innocent.

[@WesW3187]

@@junevandermark952 If you say you have no sin, you are calling God a liar and the truth is not in you.

[@nelsongonzalez4533]

Jesus was sent to the cross because of false accusations against him even though he was innocent, he died to redeem our sins. Where was justice at that time 😂? Was it an act of the Devil 😈 or Satan? Well, Pontious pillot had a sense of guilt for letting that happen!

[@startrekker2967]

As a Calvinist, don’t feel guilty. There is no freewill so God predetermined for you to sin for His mysterious will. He chose all sin to happen. Actually rejoice because both good and bad are the same in election because you had no choice.

[@chumbucket5109]

I have to say I completely disagree with this. We do have free will. God does not make us sin or even tempt us to sin. Take responsibility for your actions. Though God has elected to save some and give justice to others we still have free will. God is sovereign, yet he does not make you sin.

[@tedprice5828]

Star Trekker Rubbish

[@MrSourMC]

Hyper Calvinistic thoughts right there lol

[@kenkelble358]

Beam me up scotty, i want to talk with star trekker..

[@Popexify]

@@chumbucket5109 We do have free will, but our freedom does not determine our afterlife, because if that so we can boast on our actions to determine the eternal life and that will imply that our free will is above God sovereignty. When Peter denied Jesus he refused this declaration and believe he has the power to avoid that therefore he believed that his free will was capable to stand loyal always to God. That is a proven fact that does not imply hiper calvinism but the word of God itself. There is proof on the Bible that God know already the sins of individuals on the future, relying primarily on free will is a sign that we have a profound issue with pride because we think that we are the writers of our story and the complete owners of our actions, but when we have the Holy Spirit in our lives we know that our life does not belong to us anymore, is now up to him and his will and we have to accept that will with a humble heart. Think about it, a rebellious heart always think that they have the power to determine, free will is real but we are now slaves of our Lord Jesus and ye bought us with his sacrifice on the cross.