Lindros Draft Saga | The Nordiques-Flyers Trade That SHOOK UP The NHL

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@thescore
@thescore Жыл бұрын
Correction: Lindros would’ve been eligible to re-enter the NHL Draft in ’93, not ’92.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
What a brutal time to be a Nordiques fan. Not only can they not convince Lindros to play for them. But when the bounty of players and draft picks they got back develop and the team gets good, the team moves to Denver and immediately wins the Stanley Cup. Sometimes life just isn't fair.
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but no guarantee they would have won the Cup, had if they'd stayed in Quebec for the 95-196 season. Keep in mind that they wouldn't have had Patrick Roy, since there was no way in hell the Habs would have traded him to the Nords, no matter what too.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
@@freakyfornash Fair point. But they made the playoffs their last year there. So it's likely they still would have been a playoff team. And maybe they could have found a goalie from someone else.
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash Жыл бұрын
@@fantasticvoyage262 I'm sure they still make the playoffs no doubt. But they needed a battle tested goalie, which Thibault, and Fiset were both anything but at the time too.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
@@freakyfornash I get that. But maybe they could have found a goalie somewhere else. Where was Belfour that year?
@freakyfornash
@freakyfornash Жыл бұрын
@@fantasticvoyage262 Still with the Hawks, who were a playoff team in 96 too.
@mikekari5095
@mikekari5095 Жыл бұрын
It's crazy Steve Duchesne it just considered "another player" in this trade. He was an all star the year he went to Quebec and was a top tier D-man at the time.
@dnasty312
@dnasty312 Жыл бұрын
Excellent offensive defenseman, kind of forgotten about
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone who knows about hockey would think that. This channel obviously doesn't, lol
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
I would love to know all the trade offers the Nordiques were offered.
@JUVI9596
@JUVI9596 Жыл бұрын
The Flames made an offer Don’t know exactly for who
@walterdavies6434
@walterdavies6434 4 ай бұрын
NYR
@donpietruk1517
@donpietruk1517 Жыл бұрын
I remember that 1997 cup where everyone was predicting a Flyers sweep and how the Lindross line was going to dominate the Wings. They were right about one thing. It was a sweep. Just not the one they predicted.
@scottmurrell7367
@scottmurrell7367 Жыл бұрын
As a Flyers fan I remember going into that series very confident. About 10 minutes into game one I found myself saying "Uh-oh, we're in trouble."
@tomdiperna964
@tomdiperna964 Жыл бұрын
Those Detroit teams in 97 and 98 were on another level.
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
No disgrace in losing to those Wings teams
@chrisolivo6591
@chrisolivo6591 Жыл бұрын
@@scottmurrell7367 I was at Game 1 of the 97 Finals. If I remember correctly, Hextall let in a bad goal from the blueline early on in the first period. It just took the wind out of the crowd and it’s like everyone knew the RedWings were the better team.
@davidarmitage289
@davidarmitage289 Жыл бұрын
@@scottmurrell7367 me too. And then Michael Leighton in the next final 😢
@AD-df5tm
@AD-df5tm Жыл бұрын
The funniest thing about the Lindros trade is how it showed *trading* a generational talent is actually better than keeping him (assuming you can get a fair return). I'm actually surprised more teams with the first overall pick don't do this more often as it's a quicker way to build a contender than simply having one really good player. Just look at the Oilers for further proof that having a first overall pick, even when their is a generational talent available, does not gaurentee success.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
I think GM's have wised up today. And wouldn't give up anything close to what the Flyers did then.
@jasonjansen9831
@jasonjansen9831 Жыл бұрын
@@fantasticvoyage262 Also, is Lindros a generational talent? I mean, Forsberg was in the trade and he became a way better player than Lindros imo.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjansen9831 He was viewed as one.
@kimblem.w9952
@kimblem.w9952 Жыл бұрын
Edmonton learning exactly that the hard way by keeping McDavid.
@Portuducks
@Portuducks Жыл бұрын
The Penguins won three Cups since drafting Crosby.
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 Жыл бұрын
KEEP YOUR HEAD UP LINDROS
@streetcarjay
@streetcarjay Жыл бұрын
Keep your head up? GO HOUNDS GO
@markjackson6431
@markjackson6431 Жыл бұрын
@@streetcarjay Lindros was always bigger than everyone growing up. he had a tendency to skate with his head down, which is a no no. he never got rid of that habit when he got the pros which resulted in his concussions. he only had himself to blame..
@streetcarjay
@streetcarjay Жыл бұрын
In the Soo. He was considered Mommy's little boy. We took it upon ourselves as fans to make him see that. In 1991, the Hounds met the Oshawa Generals with Erica in the OHL final. They thought they had their ticket punched at that years Memorial Cup in Quebec City, and the championship won, What happened? We beat the Generals in 6 games, and were crowned OHL Champions. Everytime someone mentions how Erica Lindros was so great. I tell them this. 1991 OHL Final. Soo vs. Oshawa We came We saw We kicked his sorry little boy ass, and I say this for all Soo Greyhounds fans that this is our FINAL WORD. GO GOUNDS GO!!!!!
@davidford3968
@davidford3968 Жыл бұрын
@@markjackson6431 absolutely! And this is just my personal opinion but that extra year he spent in junior made it even harder for him to break that habit when he got to the NHL
@wayned5872
@wayned5872 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@Avalanche8181
@Avalanche8181 Жыл бұрын
Helped win the Avs 2 cups. Thanks Eric
@lertmelernyers8672
@lertmelernyers8672 Жыл бұрын
What was not mentioned in the end is that forsberg at the end of his career played for the flyers. All in all flyers and avs were powerhouses because of what had transpired
@286mic
@286mic Жыл бұрын
But only one of them got cups 😁
@michaelhamilton313
@michaelhamilton313 Жыл бұрын
@@286mic cUpS, your mother drinks my baby batter out of a cup. How bout that.
@matt6121
@matt6121 Жыл бұрын
@@286mic lindros was much better
@wesleyblanton2432
@wesleyblanton2432 Жыл бұрын
I just found this Channel, You have great Videos! Keep up the Great Work!
@davewalsh9957
@davewalsh9957 Жыл бұрын
The Flyers got fleeced. Forsberg alone was a better player. 885 pts in 709 games with a few cups. Lindros had 865 in 760 games and never touched the cup unless he visited the HHOF.
@alangris365
@alangris365 Жыл бұрын
That not how the draft works my friend , just because Lindros sits out one year ,he cant just re-enter the draft, lol, he has to wait 3 years before he could do that, Quebec understood her was going to sit out a second year and decided to get what they could .
@Amm17ar
@Amm17ar Жыл бұрын
Yeah I was a bit confused. I know today a team retains the players rights for 3 years but I didnt know how it worked back then.
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 Жыл бұрын
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@evolancer211
@evolancer211 4 ай бұрын
In retrospect, probably one of the best things to happen for the Nordiques. Since it brought us the Foppa, then Roy, then the cup twice in five years.
@assassssasa
@assassssasa Жыл бұрын
Look at what the Lindros trade did for the lowly Nordiques When they moved to Colorado they became a dynasty in large part because of that trade
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
They weren't a dynasty. But they were a threat to win it all every year for a 7-8 year stretch.
@misguidedangel6550
@misguidedangel6550 Жыл бұрын
The Islanders, Oilers and Canadiens were dynasties, Avalanche very good but not a dynasty
@oilersridersbluejays
@oilersridersbluejays Жыл бұрын
You obviously don’t know what a dynasty is. A dynasty is at least 3 cups won in 4 years. The correct term I think you’re searching for is powerhouse. They were definitely a powerhouse team, but they were definitely not a dynasty.
@mrfusilli
@mrfusilli 6 ай бұрын
Eric Lindros fits perfect with Herschel Walker. BOTH gave their former teams Stanley cups/Superbowls.
@111oooo
@111oooo Жыл бұрын
This guy named Peter Forsberg who was in the mix was pretty good, it's like Lindros did the Quebec/Colorado a favour. Did Lindros ever win a Cup?
@misguidedangel6550
@misguidedangel6550 Жыл бұрын
Lindros never won a cup, he went to one final in 97 was swept by Detroit
@jpmnky
@jpmnky 20 күн бұрын
The 1990s was the best decade to be an NHL fan.
@RyanJackson-vp5he
@RyanJackson-vp5he 4 ай бұрын
Quebec likely still has a franchise if Lindros stays.
@DaMurphyBeat
@DaMurphyBeat Жыл бұрын
For all the drama, and all the accolades he had in his career, he never lifted the cup. And then this world, if you don't live that cup, it means nothing.
@jean-francoispilote5751
@jean-francoispilote5751 7 ай бұрын
One question NEVER answered to this day: How come the expansion San Jose Sharks didn't get the 1st overall pick in the 1991 NHL Draft ? 1992 draft, Lightning and Senators came into the NHL and had 1st and 2nd overall picks.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 6 ай бұрын
Good question. I'd like to know that too.
@walterdavies6434
@walterdavies6434 4 ай бұрын
See Minnesota N. Stars
@WW3_Soon
@WW3_Soon 5 ай бұрын
The Nordiques/Avalanche greatly benefited from Eric Lindros snubbing that franchise.
@mjdj3360
@mjdj3360 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t really call the 90s flyers a dynasty 😅 they never won a cup and only won the division three times with him as a flyer
@leeball4
@leeball4 6 ай бұрын
Didn't Hextall charge out of the net after Lindros when the Flyers and Nordiques first played? lol Hextall was hilarious. I grew up near the Flyers training facility and went to a ton of practices. Lindros was great with fans even gave me a broken stick of his once. Bobby Clarke did him dirty.
@lertmelernyers8672
@lertmelernyers8672 Жыл бұрын
If the flyers had the ability to keep forsberg and lindros on the same team... 3 cups at the veryleast
@chrisolivo6591
@chrisolivo6591 Жыл бұрын
I’ve read numerous accounts of the trade proposals and the Nordiques originally wanted Brind’amour instead of Forsberg because Forsberg was not coming over from Sweden til after 1994 Olympics. The Flyers didn’t want to totally deplete their roster so they kept Brind’amour and Forsberg went in the deal. As a Flyers fan, Brind’amour is one of the most beloved players ever. But a 1-2 punch at Center with Lindros and Forsberg for a decade would have been scary.
@MrMac-zk5tv
@MrMac-zk5tv Жыл бұрын
Colorado was amazing, but Dynasty?! C’mon… they won 2 cups 5 years apart😂😂
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge Жыл бұрын
There was 3 dynasties at the same time : New Jersey, Detroit and Colorado between 95 and 03
@imthebeatplug_8319
@imthebeatplug_8319 Жыл бұрын
@@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge Colorado wasn't a dynasty. They didn't win enough cups to earn that title. Detroit and New Jersey did. Don't get me wrong Colorado was dominant in that time but there were too many dominant teams back then. 2 cups in a 5 year span is still impressive nonetheless 🤙
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan Жыл бұрын
@@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge An official dynasty is defined as at least 3 Cups in 4 seasons
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge
@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge Жыл бұрын
@@JHockeyFan didn't Betman himself declared the 2010s Black Hawks a dynasty?
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan Жыл бұрын
@@The_Room_2_Doggys_Revenge No
@KronaGaming
@KronaGaming Жыл бұрын
Take notes Connor
@tomdiperna964
@tomdiperna964 Жыл бұрын
I've never seen Lindros as anything more than a spoiled crybaby who's poor attitude, entitlement, and selfishness sabotaged his own career. It's the hockey god's greatest karma that the due to that trade, the Avalanche would become perennial cup contenders until 2004 while Lindros was essentially a washed up shell of his former self by 1999.
@oilersridersbluejays
@oilersridersbluejays Жыл бұрын
Colorado didn’t have a dynasty. You need at least 3 cups in 4 seasons.
@devonfelix5943
@devonfelix5943 5 ай бұрын
I’m a life long Flyers fan and lived my whole life right next to Philly.. I’ve always loved this piece of hockey history. But does anyone else see how ironic it is that this happened with Lindros in our favor, but now the same thing happened with Cutter Gauthier and Philly fans literally hate his guts 🤣🤣🤣
@TomGillisGolfInstruction
@TomGillisGolfInstruction Жыл бұрын
Peter Stastny was THEEE man, way underrated and you should all be ashamed of denying his fame!! I am a golf channel, watch it!! thanks for the time
@drewagoosa68
@drewagoosa68 Жыл бұрын
this is why you don’t let your father control your career
@chrisput1024
@chrisput1024 Жыл бұрын
Damn! Did the Nordiques fleece the Flyers or what? Peter Forseberg for Lindros even up would have been a steal.
@lordrayden3045
@lordrayden3045 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@ericfett9218
@ericfett9218 Жыл бұрын
The late 80s Nordiques tanked on purpose to stockpile #1 picks and build the team following the example of the 1983-84 Penguins who tanked to get Mario Lemeiux
@onemic187
@onemic187 Жыл бұрын
Is there a good Super Mario (66) video coming ?
@walterdavies6434
@walterdavies6434 4 ай бұрын
@5:39 What # was on the jersey?? Looks like it starts with a "1"
@mrfake675
@mrfake675 Жыл бұрын
He should have learned to skate with his head up. Great trade by Quebec.
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 Жыл бұрын
Jaylen Brown story next video theScore 🙏🙏🙏
@HogSZN
@HogSZN Жыл бұрын
its funny because Forsberg was better than Lindros anyways
@18laxX
@18laxX Жыл бұрын
Very true
@286mic
@286mic Жыл бұрын
Facts
@chrisdranfield3828
@chrisdranfield3828 Жыл бұрын
What are you basing that on. Very similar career numbers lindros had better goal totals didn’t get to play on that stacked avalanche team. both injury issues.
@thylacine519
@thylacine519 Жыл бұрын
Forsberg didn't have to play Scotf Stevens multiple times a year and even playoff series. Injuries are always the biggest what if's
@joekim2172
@joekim2172 Жыл бұрын
@@thylacine519 dont think it would matter who lindros played, he wouldve skated with his head down and get destroyed by anyone eventually. he could have played as a AV and still suffer the same fate.
@tianly6177
@tianly6177 Жыл бұрын
I always knew he would play for a new "jersey".....lol🤫🤫🤫
@timevans4942
@timevans4942 Жыл бұрын
Peter Forsberg
@nymike06
@nymike06 Жыл бұрын
Quebec Nordiques would go on to become to the Colorado Avalanche and they would go on to win 3 Stanley Cups
@sheldonwalker2295
@sheldonwalker2295 Жыл бұрын
That's Denver Colorado tho. Not Canada
@monztermovies
@monztermovies Жыл бұрын
As a life long Flyers fan, they know how to ruin a young player. If they got Shanahan when he was up for a trade to help him, I believe the flyers would hv won the cup.
@jonnygrossman7853
@jonnygrossman7853 Жыл бұрын
Would you have traded Brind'Amour and Therien for Shanahan?
@monztermovies
@monztermovies Жыл бұрын
@@jonnygrossman7853 I would have.
@jonnygrossman7853
@jonnygrossman7853 Жыл бұрын
@@monztermovies Then whom would you have replace Roddy B?
@KP-05
@KP-05 Жыл бұрын
I know someone that grew up with lindros and I’ve heard from others nothing but horrible things about his attitude
@frankesposito2182
@frankesposito2182 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't surprise me ....
@croggdog
@croggdog Жыл бұрын
Quebecs owner made a pass at Lindros's mom at a hockey tournament when eric was younger. In front of eric's dad. Would you wanna play for that guy?
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
I was not aware of that.
@timfronimos459
@timfronimos459 4 ай бұрын
@@fantasticvoyage262 C'est vrai!
@tomace194
@tomace194 8 ай бұрын
He was so good he got concussed and never won a cup.
@danglesnipecelly13
@danglesnipecelly13 Жыл бұрын
Connor Bedard. You know what to do 😂
@cockandballtortureconnoiss2643
@cockandballtortureconnoiss2643 Жыл бұрын
lmao
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 6 ай бұрын
I wish.
@charlesnolan7602
@charlesnolan7602 5 ай бұрын
That Lindros trade perpetually added no cup years to the Flyers' Now 49th year Stanley Cup series win absence Montreal 76 Islander 80 Edmonton 85 Edmonton 87 Detroit 97 Chicago 2010
@ryancox6268
@ryancox6268 Жыл бұрын
Colorado won the cup in 1996, 2001, and 2022. I would hardly call that a dynasty. In order to be called a dynasty, you have to win at least 3 championships in a 4 year span.
@superexpert6804
@superexpert6804 Жыл бұрын
Do you guys believe lindros that the reason he didn't play for the nordiques is because he didn't like Marcel aubut
@ryancox6268
@ryancox6268 Жыл бұрын
I believe it. In a recent interview he said he would’ve refused to play for any team run by that owner. He said he had no issues with the city or the fans. It was the owner he had issues with.
@Rockhound6165
@Rockhound6165 Жыл бұрын
I often wonder if the Flyers make that trade if they had drafted Jagr the year before instead of Mike Ricci. Then they take Forsberg in '91. Imagine Jagr and Forsberg on the same line.
@T-bone9
@T-bone9 Жыл бұрын
Good line but not as good as Jagr & Lemieux
@wesleysegundo5691
@wesleysegundo5691 Жыл бұрын
Lindros was basically coddled.
@olivieri2300
@olivieri2300 Жыл бұрын
As someone from Quebec. He came on a big talk show here a couple years ago, and he told in an interview that he didnt went to Quebec because the owner made advances to his mother. For years people thought he was racist towards french people. But he married a french speaking woman. In the last 10-15 years, the then owner, many Marcel Aubut's stories like these came out. But it wasnt really in the medias and some people still think he's racist
@Kiddingyoumust
@Kiddingyoumust Жыл бұрын
​@@olivieri2300 Not just a French speaking woman, I believe he married someone from Quebec. I remember seeing that interview you are speaking of and he came out looking awesome. A lot of opinions changed, after that interview. I believe it was because at that point everyone knew the owner wasn't a good person. Marcel Aubut (the owner) was accused by a bunch of women of being horrible (let's leave it at that) and he apologized for his behavior, which give strength to the Lindros story.
@kevnoxious
@kevnoxious Жыл бұрын
Lindros D Bag
@FROMCHISELSANDFIRE
@FROMCHISELSANDFIRE Жыл бұрын
Am I listening “The Why Files”?
@canuck_gamer3359
@canuck_gamer3359 5 ай бұрын
I remember that time as being such an embarrassment for the Nords. I mean who trades the same player to two different teams at the same time? lol. It made them look like a very unprofessional operation. I do remember though, that my dad (now 81) predicted that the Nordiques would have a better team than the Flyers for "years".
@Mr_Nibblesworth
@Mr_Nibblesworth Жыл бұрын
why is Pierre Turgeon not in the HOF with 462 more points then Lindros. [1327]
@tylerbeechey4234
@tylerbeechey4234 Жыл бұрын
Because he didn’t go onto the ice and fight in the 87 world juniors against the Russians , so the powers that be called him gutless and until this day won’t let him become hall of fame eligible…
@Mr_Nibblesworth
@Mr_Nibblesworth Жыл бұрын
@@tylerbeechey4234 wow! I’m impressed.. thanks for the history lesson.
@dejanivanovski8575
@dejanivanovski8575 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the rangers deal was?
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
This is what I found. Quebec President Marcel Aubut had second thoughts when Smith swooped in with an offer that reportedly included Tony Amonte, Alex Kovalev, Sergei Nemchinov, James Patrick, and their choice of John Vanbiesbrouck or Mike Richter along with several first round draft picks and as much as $20 million.
@jonnygrossman7853
@jonnygrossman7853 Жыл бұрын
@@fantasticvoyage262 Neil Smith recently said that Nemchinov wasn't part of the deal. Doug Weight was.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnygrossman7853 And when was that?
@eck4324
@eck4324 Жыл бұрын
First time I'm ever realizing this Eric lindros reminds me a bit of smashing pumpkins singer Billy corgan
@estellegrignon
@estellegrignon Жыл бұрын
In a way, with Lindros, the Nordiques may have selected the best 1st overall pick of all time given all that that pick gave to them in the long run. It's a shame Quebec City was never able to see this success. But again, the Patrick Roy trade was instrumental for that 96 Cup run, and the Habs would have never traded their star goaltender to its biggest rival.
@jonathanduplantis1403
@jonathanduplantis1403 Жыл бұрын
Savard had a Roy for Nolan and fiset trade ready but it was nixed and he was fired
@rileykazama3145
@rileykazama3145 Жыл бұрын
Hopefully one day the Nordiques come back
@johnnytweed
@johnnytweed Жыл бұрын
Mario Lemieux has brought 5 cups to Pittsburgh. Nothing Quebec got from that trade comes even close to the value of 5 cups.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
In another twist of irony, Forsberg would later sign with the Flyers. Unfortunately for them, he was well past his prime.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
That is interesting that the Nordiques would have lost him for nothing if they didn't trade him before the next year's draft. In MLB, if you can't sign your draft pick, that team gets a compensatory draft pick in the following draft in nearly the same draft slot.
@Amm17ar
@Amm17ar Жыл бұрын
Does the team still keep the players rights or does he become a free agent?
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
@@Amm17ar He goes back in the draft the next year.
@spark__plug2009
@spark__plug2009 Жыл бұрын
In the NHL I believe with first round picks that arent NCAA players, you get a pick in the second round. It happened with the Wild and Filip Johansson this last draft.
@unklesalty3732
@unklesalty3732 Жыл бұрын
Lindros got only one crack at the Cup only to have the Wings embarrass the Flyers in a sweep.
@tipit77
@tipit77 Жыл бұрын
Bebe Lindros
@brianmouland209
@brianmouland209 4 ай бұрын
Lindros never lived it down
@gggooodddyyy
@gggooodddyyy Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Lindros would have still held out if the league didn’t screw the Sharks out of 1oa. Could have been a real kickstart to the franchise without the personal beef
@TimWong49152
@TimWong49152 Жыл бұрын
Eric looks like enemy number 1 but consider the NHL environment back then. There was no draft lottery. The Quebec Nordiques were the worst-run organization. Nobody wanted to play there. The Nordiques drafted 3, 1, 1, 1 and 4 in 5 consecutive drafts. There was no unrestricted free agency so if you were drafted by a bad team and you were an all-star player, you were stuck in that organization for a very long time. There was restricted free agency but that only meant the team that lost that player was entitled to compensation. That scared off teams from signing free agents. Looking back now, Eric just wanted to choose where he would live and work for the next 13 years.
@jogendron6320
@jogendron6320 Жыл бұрын
Wrong.
@paulovalente738
@paulovalente738 Жыл бұрын
A player should have the right to play where ever he wants
@anthonyevangelisti9296
@anthonyevangelisti9296 Жыл бұрын
It’s bad for the sport, everyone would go to the same team and they’d never win
@carter7944
@carter7944 22 күн бұрын
No because then if they refuse to play for a team they have to accept a trash deal like the quebec did smh force him to play or ban him from the league if he wont play for you at least get revenge by banning him from the league forever id rather that then trade for teams who sill lowball me
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops Жыл бұрын
Before the 91 draft, what trade offers did Quebec get for the first pick?
@thylacine519
@thylacine519 Жыл бұрын
The Rangers in 1991 reportedly had an offer of Sergei Nemchinov, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, James Patrick, the choice of Mike Richter or John Vanbiesbrouck, multiple 1sts, and $20 million U.S. For context, Nemchinov was a prospect, Amonte was a former 4th round (today would have been in the 3rd round), Kovalev was the 15th pick from the Rangers in 1991, Patrick was an established who was always in the neighborhood of 50-70 pts with the club, Richter has his # retired by the Rangers and would lead the club to the Stanley Cup in 1994, Vanbiesbrouck was a starting netminder. Combined with the picks (would have been the 8th, 24th or 26th, but draft picks are always magic beans) and the cash, it would have been a bigger trade than the what the Flyers gave up. At the time of the draft, Quebec made trades with Toronto to keep Toronto from giving up the pick that would have been Lindtos. So Quebec wanted the 1st pick, so they would not have made a trade at the time of the 1991 draft
@Lawomenshoops
@Lawomenshoops Жыл бұрын
@@thylacine519 this was the trade that the Quebec owner agreed to. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m talking about before the 91 draft, did Quebec get any offers for that pick?
@thylacine519
@thylacine519 Жыл бұрын
@@Lawomenshoops I can't remember one as I don't think they would have listened
@stevenbauer4799
@stevenbauer4799 Жыл бұрын
none that were serious. gm's knew nords were gonna keep pick and lindros wouldn't report to nords. that's why practically every team threw a trade offer out there in '92 trying to get lindros. rags tried to make a trade after the fact only to have arbitrator void that deal.
@seangorman9516
@seangorman9516 Жыл бұрын
Shame he didnt keep his head up, going across the blue line against the Devils. He was never the same after Stevens hit
@MrOctober44
@MrOctober44 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame Stevens was such a scumbag
@trollslayergaming
@trollslayergaming 7 ай бұрын
Horrible trade for philly
@rieleyduysen17
@rieleyduysen17 Жыл бұрын
the hockey gods cursed him and his lack of humble by giving him 0 cups and Forsberg two. (one he was injured for 3.75 rounds of the playoffs. GO AVS!
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
I remember thinking before that series the Blues had a big advantage with Forsberg out. And the Avalanche still won in 5 games. I was impressed that year the Avalanche won the Stanley Cup without anything from Forsberg the last 2 series.
@ontarioguyincalgary4845
@ontarioguyincalgary4845 Жыл бұрын
He never won a cup
@marclaporte3710
@marclaporte3710 Жыл бұрын
This narcissistic selfishness led to him never winning a Stanley Cup. Had he stuck with Quebec he would have won atleast two. No idea why he would decide to go his entire career without actually winning a Stanley Cup. Isn't that the whole point ?
@HogSZN
@HogSZN Жыл бұрын
@@thebrockman12 they won a few years later after being moved to colorado lol
@HogSZN
@HogSZN Жыл бұрын
@@thebrockman12 ur telling me Sakic + Lindros doesn't win a ring?
@estellegrignon
@estellegrignon Жыл бұрын
@@thebrockman12 exactly. Otherwise, McDavid and Draisaitl would be drowning in Cup rings
@18laxX
@18laxX Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, screw lindros and his pretentious family. He got what was coming to him in the year 2000.
@HogSZN
@HogSZN Жыл бұрын
@@estellegrignon draisaitl is not on the same level as the other 3 to be completely honest. 1 zone player
@joshdrumheller4920
@joshdrumheller4920 9 ай бұрын
If he had stayed with Quebec, he would have 2 cups in his career!!!
@anthonydangelo3980
@anthonydangelo3980 6 ай бұрын
The rangers offer was better..amonte,Richter, weight,kovalev, 3 first round picks and millions in cash..thats why Abut went back to the flyers trying to bail on their trade and send lindros to new York..coincidentally it was Abut himself that was the reason lindros wouldn't go to Quebec. For a team that had some serious talent yet major financial problems really ended up winning that trade. If only lindros could have learned to skate with his head up,and if they flyers actually got a legit number one goalie it really could have been special
@RossScarcelli
@RossScarcelli 5 ай бұрын
What did he do to earn a Hall of Fame induction?
@mazza3571
@mazza3571 Жыл бұрын
Goof
@stevenjames7645
@stevenjames7645 Жыл бұрын
He did hear about the story when he got jumped on the locker room for banging rod the bod wife
@NewDivide705
@NewDivide705 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention he refused to play for SSM
@wmarksmith8888
@wmarksmith8888 Жыл бұрын
And yet after making two trades, Quebec didn’t get punished what so ever. In fact, the flyers traded two picks that day but were forced to select. Then, the arbitrator gave Quebec players and picks that weren’t in the trade.
@286mic
@286mic Жыл бұрын
Dear Lindros, Ha ha ha. Ha. Sincerely, Avalanche Fans
@kalkella8822
@kalkella8822 10 ай бұрын
Well, Karma came for him, and he wore the number 4.
@xllxmatttxllx
@xllxmatttxllx 6 ай бұрын
Well all that controversy for what Lindros at the time he was 19 so he was still in control by his parents.quebec was at the time was in separation to Canada so the Lindros family didn't want to go to quebec.why Eric Lindros took so long to say that he didn't want to play for the Nordiques that he like Marcel aubut after his retirement.so it took that long for Eric that excuse.. so sad.and he didn't even win a Stanley Cup.. what goes around comes around...
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 6 ай бұрын
Why did he not want to play for the Greyhounds?
@frankesposito2182
@frankesposito2182 Жыл бұрын
He wished he was the second Wayne
@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8
@OVI-Wan-Kenobi-8 Жыл бұрын
Connor McJebus can learn a thing or two from Eric Lindros about dodging an undesirable team when being drafted first overall
@MrHuang-rh4bj
@MrHuang-rh4bj Жыл бұрын
Peter Forsberg is better
@lawoftheuniverse8089
@lawoftheuniverse8089 Жыл бұрын
Eric Lindros was always overrated... excellent player to be sure but not way up in the Superstar Heavyweight Class...Hell, he wasn't even the best player in that trade, Forsberg was...and by far...!!!
@walterdavies6434
@walterdavies6434 4 ай бұрын
He was traded to NY Rangers first !!!!!!
@serapeach6252
@serapeach6252 Жыл бұрын
it's hilarious the backlash when Lindros LITERALLY SAID HE WOULD NOT SIGN WITH THE NORDIQUES, specifically cause of conflict with head staff. AND he made it clear he didn't want to be drafted by them BEFORE they picked him.
@mazza3571
@mazza3571 Жыл бұрын
Coward
@dickbiggerjr3613
@dickbiggerjr3613 Жыл бұрын
Ok but that shouldn't be an option that the player has. What's the point in giving the lower ranked teams high draft picks if every high skill player just refuses to play there. Unprofessional and childish behavior from an entitled brat.
@TheBenedictchan1
@TheBenedictchan1 Жыл бұрын
@@dickbiggerjr3613 My against that would be: "Why should you reward trash management and trash ownership for being horrible?" If the player is willing to stick to guns, then he should be able to do it. It's also not always just the player. If you look at the NFL, the entire Manning family was involved with the entire Eli Manning saga.
@dickbiggerjr3613
@dickbiggerjr3613 Жыл бұрын
@Benedict Chan not all bad teams have bad management! The league is trying to help those teams acquire top talent, which doesn't work if you have entitled players refusing to play.
@TheBenedictchan1
@TheBenedictchan1 Жыл бұрын
@@dickbiggerjr3613 I don't get why you have to force really good players to toil away in bad situations. That's like forcing a really talented person to live in hell. That's why I don't blame players who take the option to force their way out. If you have leverage, then use it.
@devooski4751
@devooski4751 Жыл бұрын
Lindros is the most stubborn hockey player of all time. In my honest opinion. It's like what my kids do when they get angry. Lindros just had bad teachings and teachers. But good hockey teachers don't get me wrong. He was good at hockey but that was it, just hockey.
@FlameWingPhoenix
@FlameWingPhoenix Жыл бұрын
Bad Teachings? Yeah god forbid him for not wanting to play for an organisation whose president was a known sex offender and made several advances on his married mother..
@toddmurphy3245
@toddmurphy3245 Жыл бұрын
Eric & Brett the Roids Brothers 💉
@bingboone9474
@bingboone9474 Жыл бұрын
I like the subject of the video but the announcer high pitch enunciation of every 3rd word makes my ears bleed.
@Kyle-e2w
@Kyle-e2w 4 ай бұрын
Embarrassing to be getting paid more than gretsky
@corycrabtree4722
@corycrabtree4722 Жыл бұрын
wtf this is just a rip off of secretbase. the vibe, the production. lol
@MNATrevor
@MNATrevor Жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I’m not a fan of the host. Cool format though.
@fantasticvoyage262
@fantasticvoyage262 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with the host?
@frankesposito2182
@frankesposito2182 Жыл бұрын
He waanted $$$ $$$ SO he went to America...bad choice
@JBTriple8
@JBTriple8 Жыл бұрын
yeah Connor Bedard is giving me Lindros vibes to his Hype we shall see
@Asshat237
@Asshat237 Жыл бұрын
Ok scout
@JHockeyFan
@JHockeyFan Жыл бұрын
Bedard is not going to hold out
@thylacine519
@thylacine519 Жыл бұрын
@JZ34 It is always a possibility that he declares before the draft he will not play for such and such teams. Arizona hopes he doesn't as he's the only person in this draft who can get an arena built.
@JBTriple8
@JBTriple8 Жыл бұрын
@@thylacine519 The Coyotes are getting that arena without Bedard its gonna get built
@thylacine519
@thylacine519 Жыл бұрын
@@JBTriple8 Is Matthews coming or Gary Bettman gonna do his shenanigans?
@basedharun8282
@basedharun8282 Жыл бұрын
Lindros has two cups, ‘96 and ‘01
@nickvarga4096
@nickvarga4096 Жыл бұрын
He never won a cup
@ndrocca
@ndrocca Жыл бұрын
@@nickvarga4096 The Lindros trade got the Avs Peter Forsberg. That trade won the Avs two cups.
@nickvarga4096
@nickvarga4096 Жыл бұрын
@noahrocca1609 I know that, but the original comment said Lindros has two cups which is false.
@basedharun8282
@basedharun8282 Жыл бұрын
@@nickvarga4096 He might as well have 2
@nickvarga4096
@nickvarga4096 Жыл бұрын
@basedharun8282 if Lindros stuck with the Nordiques/Avalanche franchise he probably would have had 2 cups
@robrodarme1730
@robrodarme1730 Жыл бұрын
Lindros 865 total points ZERO cups.. Forsberg 885 total points 2 Cups!! As a life long Nordiques/AVS fan i'd like to thank little baby lindros for his contribution to my happiness. PS: HAIL TO THE STASTNY BROTHERS!!
@anthonys3631
@anthonys3631 Жыл бұрын
Can't blame him for not wanting to play for that scumbag owner Aubut.
@Movies2049
@Movies2049 5 ай бұрын
Click bait National Enquirer, News of the World, Fox News style tabloid garbage stories from The Score. Go low bros
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