Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home #1 (REUPLOAD) - Atop the Fourth Wall

Re-edited and reuploaded due to ContentID claim.
Welcome to Atop the Fourth Wall, where bad comics burn. In this episode, Linkara looks at the adaptation of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home!
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Originally uploaded July 23rd, 2012.
ORIGINAL INFO: The movie is about a crew in a stolen alien vessel going back in time to rescue some whales so they can talk to an alien probe. Why wasn’t this a comic book FIRST?
RUMINATIONS: The opening rant in this episode feels… quite a bit off nowadays. While I still struggle to say that any particular Star Trek episode is a “message” show in the way described (specifically written with a ‘THIS IS THE LESSON’), it’s easily misinterpreted to mean that Star Trek LACKED any kind of social messages and that’s not what I really want to say. They were still articulating the problems of the era and reflect the reality of everyday life, just not in particular the way they were suggesting. Racism was a factor in “Let That Be Your Last Battlefield,” but I don’t think it was strictly the focus of it. After all, it wasn’t “Your racism destroyed your world!” it was that even after 50,000 years and the loss of everything they were fighting for… they couldn’t let go of their hatred for one another. But then again, that’s just my own interpretation of it and shouldn’t be accepted as fact or gospel on the matter.
Like I said back in the Batman: A Word to the Wise review, the Gunslinger storyline was the one that underwent the most changes from conception to execution. As a result, I knew I needed to plan it waaay in advance, get as many scripts finished for it as I could. As such, when I was asked by the higher ups at Channel Awesome if I’d like to fly to Washington, DC to lobby congress about SOPA (the Stop Online Piracy Act, in case you missed all that a few years ago), I knew the opportunity to film in DC had to be taken advantage of. I wore a few of the outfit pieces underneath the regular suit I wore and kept the rest in my bags, making sure to keep my sleeves down (although I should note the other reason why the sleeves were down was because it was December and COLD). Filming in DC is actually okay to do as long as it’s not on a tripod and you alert the police around you that you’re doing it, which we did. Even Angry Joe filmed a brief bit with Corporate Commander… although he wisely decided to not wear his helmet for it. Still, that worked out just fine, since it allowed for the joke of me running past and hitting him.
Subsequently, the bits with Brad Jones were filmed during To Boldly Flee, as part of a vlog we did about me going to White castle, since I had never been there before and Brad’s a big White Castle fan. While I’m not really sold on the sliders (partially because I prefer plain hamburgers vs. cheeseburgers), the chicken rings sold me on their absurdity and, well, fried chicken-ness. The final shots of me walking in front of the sunset came from the same day, done while filming this episode, since I needed fill-ins and the sun was coming down, so I knew a few spots down near where I lived that would look perfect for it.
As for the review portion, I’m quite surprised I even managed to throw something together that looked in ANY way similar to Kirk’s outfit in the film. I’m not even sure what it is he’s wearing in the movie - some kind of combination wrap-around and sort-of frilled shirt underneath? Still, showing off the green uniform and season 1/2 TNG uniforms justified their purchases, so there’s always that.

[@jaredsamples6969]

TRUE STORY: When I was younger, I went to an ST convention in iowa. James Doohan, the original Scotty, was there, and I had a Voyage Home card with his line "Admiral, there be whales here!", which he autographed. And I still have the card, to this day.

[@anjetto1]

Jared Samples James doohan was a solid dude

[@Trevin_Taylor]

Jared Samples pics or it didn’t happen

[@zaccarpenter621]

trevin dude don't be a dick because why the hell would some make up a story like the one jared said

[@ya-kiri794]

​@@Trevin_Taylor Why don't YOU prove that it didn't happen?

[@Trevin_Taylor]

@@ya-kiri794 it’s literally impossible to prove a negative.

[@florenceb1031]

"There are other intelligent life forms on earth, Doctor. Only Human arrogance would assume the message was meant for man." Another problem with that line is that the team that McCoy used, "Earthlings," is defined as "inhabitants of the Earth," which would cover those other intelligent life forms as well, not just Humans. Someone as fastidious as Spock should remember that.

[@Susilo_Sovan]

I didn't read the title and didn't realize this was a reupload until Scotty tried talking to the computer. That's the part where my brain went "Hey dummy. You saw this 5 years ago." Still a good episode. Will watch again in another 5 years. :P

[@intheclear3492]

It’s been 5 years now

[@laurenceodell5168]

"And together, we can be JUSTICE!!" Great reference to Cry for Justice, Mr. Kara...

[@laurenceodell5168]

Yeah, I'm not kidding, guys!! I mean, he did it again for JLA/Avengers and only done better because DC...

[@POWERTW]

I always found it funny that the two parents from 7th Heaven were in two different Star Trek movies.

[@TheSefirosu200x]

Tifa's bar?!

[@danhouser5175]

Funnier still.. the dad was the template for Maxwell Lord. Really!

[@mattwo7]

8:50 Really cool? That sound always unnerved me.... Then again, I think that was the point.

[@DogoHalibar]

Did you know the guy who played Admiral Cartwright and Joseph Sisko also voiced Darth Vader in the original trilogy radio dramas?

[@TerryB01]

I learned more about Star Trek from your videos than anything else. Thanks Linkara.

[@memyopinionsche6610]

I always wondered if star fleet ever got that Klingon bird of pray from the bottom of San Francisco Bay and got that cloaking device?

[@Trevin_Taylor]

Me my opinion Sche cloaking devices are illegal in the federation. You think they don’t have them because they lack the tech?

[@florenceb1031]

@@Trevin_Taylor Cloaking devices wouldn't become illegal until 2311. This movie takes place in 2285. There's a 26 year gap where they can study and use the cloaking device.

[@Trevin_Taylor]

Florence B Nope, this movie takes place in the 20th Century. Double dumbass on you!

[@concordiaharmony2302]

So Linkara, here's a question for you. If you could be in any of the Star Trek shows, which one would you want to be in and why?

[@15oClock]

Concordia Harmony For me, it'd be DS9. I would have a higher chance of living than on Voyager, I'd have more fun than on Kirk or Picard's Enterprises, and I wouldn't have to deal with insane scenarios or crews like on Discovery or Archer's Enterprise.

[@samuelbarber4154]

TOS: I don't why, but, that's just my favourite iteration of the Enterprise. Then again, I would have a high chance of death and losing the ship and/or the ship being destroyed.

[@tombeats7179]

@@samuelbarber4154 Like for example, you could have a machine beamed aboard that wants to kill you to appease its programming. Or you could have a plant monster come on and take all the salt out of your body. Hell, maybe you'll get EXTRA lucky and have a crewmate that's pissed at your captain try to indirectly kill you via downing the ship by taking out the engines.

[@jessewilley531]

Funny fact. I know EXACTLY where some of the original colored pages for this comic are. I went to college with the colorist's daughter who gave me lots of colored pages her mom did for various comics for birthday and Christmas presents over the years.

[@GladiusTR]

Oh, that's pretty cool

[@Jordan-hs5kf]

Interestingly enough, the reason why you're indifferent to Star Trek IV is the reason I love A Piece of the Action. Mind you, the 1930's were further removed from the real world present day than the 70's was, but I find the whole "people interacting with a drastically different time period" thing entertaining.

[@CazTheGamerGuy]

Quick, watch it before it's taken do-wait...this isn't Todd's channel...

[@JoeRepp]

Why does Holokara need to pick out a physical outfit? Cant he just render himself wearing a different uniform if he wants? Whatever, the joke still works I guess.

[@JTeenmining]

I know this was three years ago, but for anybody seeing this and wondering the same, holding it could help visualize it on the "body" so that he has an idea of when he does render the clothes

[@cardboardcrafter2482]

I forgot that this was Holokara.

[@Sheepy007]

5:38 "It's the only film in the franchise that I feel the most indifferent about." Was that a script mistake? Shouldn't it be either the only film you feel indifferent about or the film you feel most indifferent about ?

[@AT4W]

Yep, script mistake. Sometimes I don't notice this stuff. XD

[@keelanbarron928]

@@AT4W or considering that's it's holokara, it could be a glitch.

[@Merit2397]

FINALLY, I can finally talk about Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home!!!! Despite watching the original six films with the original series later in life, this is actually the one that I have the most unintentional nostalgia for, mainly in the location shooting. As a kid who grew up in California, I used to go to places like San Fransisco and The Monterey Bay Aquarium so it's nice to see those places being represented in a movie that I found particularly enjoyable. Easily the most fun out of all the Star trek films.

[@PrincessAshley972]

I really like your extra commentary in the description, a fun bit to know your thoughts on an episode thats now 4 and a half years old

[@Yellow13Firestorm]

Something I found out is that the probe prop was originally made for an Arthur C Clarke book called Rama which was a black, cylindrical tube of some sort. because the Rama movie fell through, they just reused the prop for this movie.

[@TheSeptet]

Rama was great! I had an adventure game adaptation as a kid and it was a ton of fun~

[@davidcolby167]

THAT'S WHY IT'S SO FUCKING FAMILIAR.

[@7Seraphem7]

You know... I was on the Enterprise, and even a Nuc so I worked on the reactors. A. none of them had any signs like that, nor a damn thing about clearance. Just little radiology signs everywhere making clear you need to be wearing a dosimeter of some kind. As such, my thought is, if anyone WAS caught down there. The real reason it would cause an issue, isn't security being all paranoid and upset. But rather ELT's pissed off at all the paperwork they'd need to do to handle radiological exposure estimations for them. Unless it was the second RO I had while there. He'd just be pissed they were standing around doing nothing in the plant rather then cleaning.

[@Tareltonlives]

So it'd be less "A RUSSIAN SPY" and more "A really STUPID Russian spy"

[@Herowebcomics]

This was so fun! The comic, your commentary and you slugging Corporate Commander with your "I am a man!" Punch!

[@DeeRhoe]

Look! Your old background!! **Looks at description** Oh...

[@jackmcslay]

17:00 I was going to say that's a ludicrous out of context scene but then realized there's no possible context to make sense of that scene that isn't ludicrous

[@Aiijuin]

'Message' Star Trek Episodes.... yeah - ST:TNG was probably the most guilty of that from what I recall. My most unfavorite episode TNG episode being the one about Warp Drive ripping holes in the universe ("Force of Nature") - aka Our 20th century destruction of the Ozone layer. ( '_______' ) ~ *sigh* For me, it was the WORST episode ever written into the TNG continuity, which caused more plot holes in the entire series and DS9 for such a loooo~ooong time afterwards. Well, that episode and the 'Masaka is coming, Data mask excursion' ("Masks") episode that my and my Trekkie BFF both swear was written after someone had inhaled a little-too-many spray paint fumes.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Personally, I consider "Homeward" from Season 7 to be my least favorite TNG episode, most notably because it makes Picard into an asshole who is completely willing to let an entire society go extinct just so that he won't have to worry about violating the Prime Directive by interfering with the Boraalan society's development... even though they were facing complete extinction because of something they had no control over. And this dogmatic reverence for the Directive would only get worse in Voyager.

[@Chagogo]

36:29 my favorite iteration of this joke.

[@arashimiyazawa8165]

Major deja vu when you showed the cover. Holy crap, I actually had this one when I was a kid!

[@RaphBlade7]

I hope that Linkara will review that Star Trek III sequel comic that got retconned by DC because of the film sequel, as its interesting to see what DC made before they were forced to retcon the events cause a new film was made that pretty much forced their hand!

[@OmegaX9]

Honestly when I saw the chicken egg probe and heard it go bawk I thought Linkara said it looked like a giant Ho-Oh.

[@kameronhall4448]

The best part of this the corporate commander bit got me

[@Ultimus31]

"I thought his name was Earl." If that's the reference I think it is, I feel kind of old.

[@megaralph12345]

I have to admit that,as big a fan as I am of Star Trek, I've never seen this movie. But now I'm gonna. Just for that cramps joke at the end.

[@Tareltonlives]

Oh, I recommend it. Dramatically it's really generic, but it's the funniest and most fun of any Star Trek movies. It's the one you watch when you don't want to think about mortality, war, aging, responsibility, revenge, ethics, etc. It's still got a good and relevant message about a serious topic, but it's not as heavy.

[@deborahingle2301]

16:45 -17:09 is the best part of the whole review. I cannot stop laughing!

[@Merit2397]

Really it just comes down to HOW you want to deliver that message because there is a difference between sharing a message that's meant to better humanity versus forcing or condescending that same message to people. I don't know about anyone else, but I believe in an old saying "It's easier to catch files with honey than with vinegar". Meaning that you're more likely to convince people through friendlier means of compassion, understanding, and consideration than shouting, blaming, or shaming other people.

[@Smartalic10]

The guy who drew this didn’t seem to know what humpback whales look like since he drew them very cartoony

[@IamConnorMacLeod]

So, question: Will you ever review the Trek comic stories from DC set between 5 and 6, including The Trial of James T. Kirk? That'd be interesting.

[@BioGoji-zm5ph]

Star Trek IV and TMP are very unique among Trek films, since there is no true "villain" in either movie. Yes, V'GER in TMP serves an antagonistic force in its own right, but it is not intentionally malicious. Its motivations are not villainous in any traditional sense. It only wants to fulfil its programming. The same can be said of the Whale Probe in IV. It does things that seem antagonistic, but that is not its intention. No space ship battles, no sinister villain... Star Trek IV is almost the anti-Wrath of Khan, and it's a perfect trilogy ender if you don't count Undiscovered Country as a Tetralogy ender.

[@CthulhuianBunny]

Funny thing about "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", my 7th grade teacher had us watch that episode in class, telling us that it was about racism.

[@AT4W]

In the intervening years, I've reevaluated a bit and it is... its problem is that it takes a bit of "both sides-ism" to the thing that feels iffy. Sure, in the actual story both ARE really terrible, but considering it's supposed to be a representative of the actual conflict it feels like a bad message to send: "One side is oppressed for racist reasons!" "I'm trying to gain supporters to stop the subjugation and oppression!" "BOTH OF THESE ARE BAD."

[@SBaby]

I'm pretty sure the other reason they gave Kirk the Enterprise was to make him keep his mouth shut about Genesis, since even though the council and most of the higher ups know about it, it's likely the general public of registered voters doesn't.

[@Tareltonlives]

Star Trek: Awesome, goofy, and BOTH While II and VI are great movies, IV is the most rewatchable I wouldn't insult Dolphins-their weapons and propulsion are magnitudes beyond our own

[@Tareltonlives]

♫He's the Angry James T Kirk! ♫

[@TheYoungDoctor]

1:12 TV's first interracial kids was actually in the play Hot Summer Night shown on British television in February 1959. It's not even Star Trek's first either Space Seed and Mirror, Mirror best it to it.

[@mutalord]

that´s odd, I dont recall this episode at all, and I checked the archives when I found out about AT4W and marathoned it

[@mutalord]

ah, so THIS is where that punch came from

[@TerryFedora]

Digging the Hitchhiker's reference

[@Ungulates]

May we have a link to that SF Debris review you mention in this video?

[@Walter.Kolczynski]

sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/film4.php

[@MicrowavedAlastair5390]

Well, I don't know why my phone refuses to load this video, because it is clearly working on my youngest brother's computer. Guess I have to watch it there.

[@Merit2397]

Though I do find if kind of amusing that the film makers pretend that the Monterey Bay Aquarium is located in San Fransisco when It's clearly not.

[@L1z43vr]

Wreeein, weeeing Weeing weeing (The answer is) (Fifty Four)

[@aquabreeze7612]

Fun fact: Humpbacks are far from the most endangered whale species. If we do lose any whale species during the 21st century, I don’t think it’ll be the humpback.

[@bombader2677]

I was named after Scotty, even met the man in person when I was really young. Didn't understand the meeting of your namesake at the time.

[@warhammerguy]

I think the writers of Discovery and Picard should listen to the intro about messages in Star Strek

[@actionjackson4982]

9:33 I can see this being a far future meme 😂😂😂😂

[@almightylordsalamander2245]

I mean... McCoy did get impersonated by that salt vampire

[@Leoofmoon]

any idea what up with SF? I know some stuff went down in his recent update but I only recently discovered him and I am worried if he's ok.

[@dreamlandnightmare]

28:00 - that's not irony.

[@Merit2397]

Originally, when it came to the Star Trek films, I didn't think I had anything to add that wasn't already said. However, there's nothing wrong with agreeing with popular opinion and it's possible I have my own when viewing them. Speaking of which, I want to address something when it comes to Lewis's past rant about The Original Series not being a "Message Show"'. He's wrong and I'm glad that he grew out of that way of thinking. Star Trek TOS and all the films and shows after it had a message to share while telling those "Good Stories".

[@MasterGeek-mk5ne]

Pretty funny movie, and like it’s message of saving the whales.

[@ACFan120]

What exactly *is* the environmental message of Star Trek 4? Save the Whales so some space thing doesn't destroy us? Preserving species so they don't go extinct is important, but the movie doesn't really convey the importance of it all that well.

[@AT4W]

I think it's more about long-term consequences in the metaphorical form of a giant ho-ho.

[@Tareltonlives]

"I AM A FLYING METAPHOR FOR ECOLOGICAL COLLAPSE!" Yeah, the thing is, people's problems with believing in environmental science is that the effects are subtle and indirect-more hurricanes, changing sea levels, desertification, more mosquitoes etc. Filmmakers get the message across by making the consequences immediate: Giant space probe, whatever the hell was going on in the Day After Tomorrow, Birdemic, etc. Unfortunately, that just makes the subject harder to take seriously, as the fantasy outcome makes the very real problem look equally fantastic.

[@steffanihague5680]

I'm watching this from your AT4W Storyline Episode Playlist, and it says one video is unavailable. Do you know which one, and if so, do you plan on re-uploading it?

[@OtakuJuanma2]

Ngl I came here just to know what the rant about "Message Episodes" that was edited out of the compilation was and... Yeah I can indeed see why those are views you no longer have nor a healthy outlook. (I admit I did this out of morbid curiosity exclusively)

[@RhyperiorRanger]

I looked at the thumbnail and immediately clicked without reading the title because I thought it was a static shock review.... fuck. Maybe some day

[@TheMamaluigi300]

27:49 Well this *is* Kirk, right? Not gonna lie, his pauses always seem kinda sporadic to me, like it’s to him like *emphasizing* random *words* is to *Frank Miller*

[@chs9999]

I would love to see Brad and linkara go to White Castle

[@indy6s]

That’s weird, this video seems not to work on an iPad, but works through the KZbin app on a console

[@XuntosIzor]

I adore this movie

[@cassiedevereaux-smith3890]

The reason Gillian was upset about the release of the whales was because they would then be vulnerable to whaling, which was a hot button issue of the day. As for why she was upset... emotional attachment? I mean, if your cat was going to be given to a new home and you thought you were going to be able to say goodbye, but they were taken while you were out of your home, wouldn't you be upset too? *shrug* That scene makes sense to me, idk, Is it logical? No, but a central theme of the film is about the validity of feelings even when not strictly logical, so I don't see a problem with it. Theme reinforced, imo.

[@thomasthompson2431]

I have that mirror universe tpb, has it ever been reviewed?

[@aarengabriel8106]

(TW: underage rape, pregnancy) I always hated that Saavik supposedly got pregnant from her encounter with Spock. Like, bro, he was underage when it happened, it was already inappropiate in the 3rd movie, but the idea that Saavik got pregnant from pretty much raping Spock is beyond disturbing.

[@Insane-Howl-Cowl]

For some reason I always thought that the VGER movie and this one were the same. huh?! Also, why is there always so much hate for spreads? I always liked them in comics.

[@AT4W]

No hate for spreads, just when they are turned on their side or when used ineffectively. =)

[@Bussani]

I'm still here~!!

[@MyMagnificentOctopus]

I never understood the "no cloaking device" treaty with the Romulans. It is not like a strategic arms limitation treaty where both sides won't use the technology, the Romulans can have them (and the Klingons, though they aren't in the treaty), but the Federation cannot. And it doesn't seem like the Federation got anything in return. Which makes me wonder if the "stalemate" story is Federation propaganda, and the Romulans really won the war and imposed the terms on the Federation.

[@AT4W]

More likely there were provisions we don't see on screen - some kind of other technological advancement that the Romulans handed over, territorial conceit, etc.

[@MyMagnificentOctopus]

@@AT4W Well, do bear in mind that Enterprise was heading toward the Romulan war, so presumably the treaty was negotiated by Johnathan Archer. Considering what we saw of his diplomatic skills, it is quite possible he just didn't care. Or maybe his dog peed on the Romulan delegation and he had to give up cloaking to appease them.

[@ZekeStaright]

16:09 You mean the answer isn't 42!?

[@OtioseFanatic]

Hmm. Hey Linkara. This video doesn’t seem to work anymore. No matter what device or where I am it says “No Stream, tap to retry”

[@OtioseFanatic]

few days later and its working again. Im glad :)

[@otakon17]

Goddamn robots. Thanks Linkara, but are you gonna add to the description like the original airing date and all that?

[@AT4W]

...It's there. It's all in there. XD

[@otakon17]

...I am an idiot. Thanks for the re-upload, shame to see them flag Corporate Commander though that's some bullcrap. Wonder if Joe's been hit yet...

[@deadaccount7520]

Yeah. A dwarf riding a space elf who was on all fours making horse noises. That could be considered goofy....i guess. Imo the racism lesson was better done in one of my favorite episode "balance of terror". Having never seen a romulan.Even after a pretty bad war and an uneasy truce since. After the romulans with a advanced cloaking device invaded the neutral zone. Then after the enterprise intercepted communications. They see the romulans looked like the vulcans. Causing at least 1 crewman to change the way he interacted with spock. This has been COMMENTS...OUT...OF NOWHERE!

[@Smartalic10]

Why does this video take forever to buffer on my phone?

[@ninjagregshow9423]

are wessles a thing? I thought Chekhov and Scotty were just saying “missles" and there accents made it sound like “wessles"

[@TheSeptet]

Chekov has a Russian accent, so that's how he says "vessels".

[@jrrollins84]

Come to Louisiana, you can have some Gumbo.

[@ickyspop682]

Hey Linkara, this isn’t working anymore. Can you fix?

[@thepoetoffall7820]

Why’s this video down?

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

Linkara, the 1980s were famous for cocaine use, so drugs makes sense for the time travel scene.

[@andreworders7305]

my favorite one

[@TheAllSeeingEye2468]

5!

[@bearsquash833]

I thought the aliens sent the probe because they lost contact with the whales.

[@andreworders7305]

1:28 assuming Season 3 doesn't exist...

[@JediAcolyte94]

Linkara Do you do shout out videos? If so, could you do one on Twin Suns Foundation? TSF is a charity group that seeks to spread literacy all over the world. You can find them at www.twin-suns.net.

[@Canadamus_Prime]

So what did they ContentID this for?

[@AT4W]

The original video's ending credits used music from the movie and some clips ran longer than they should have.

[@greatsayain]

I can't find the sfdebris video on star trek 4. can anybody find it?

[@AT4W]

sfdebris.com/videos/startrek/film4.php

[@andrewgwilliam4831]

HHGTTG reference!

[@disappointedoptimist8659]

Why do you describe every cover as "BLEH"?

[@dakotadoyle7573]

No kirk made out with his wife and his daughter on the same day

[@larrylaffer3246]

IT BROKE NEW GROUND! I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW CAPTAIN KIRK AND SPOCK!

[@LizardOfOz69]

Phasers

[@tialenmitchell2451]

Wait why was this reuploaded

[@AT4W]

Check the first line of the description.

[@tialenmitchell2451]

Oh okay so what about the storyline don't you think this is to be a little confusing

[@AT4W]

It happens. I've corrected the playlists to make it easier.

[@chrisjoy1321]

Why was it taken down?

[@AT4W]

It says right there in the first sentence of the video description.

[@chrisjoy1321]

Linkara-AtopTheFourthWall Oh, I'm a moron.

[@zeroryoko999]

5 years after the SOPA Wars and this copyright crap is still going on. This is pretty much why I post my reviews on Dailymotion and announce it on KZbin.

[@RemyNote]

42, in base 13

[@mrshadowbright4041]

why did angry joe have his face covered?

[@AT4W]

It wasn't wise to run around Washington, DC near the capitol building in a Cobra Commander mask.

[@mrshadowbright4041]

oh ok i see

[@danielbrant6740]

For 2012? That wouldn't be smart. I doubt that wouldn't be a problem with everything else happening in D.C. nowadays, though!

[@mrshadowbright4041]

true..

[@1rhpsfan]

13:53 Spoilers

[@plaid8567]

54, I know it was joke, buuuuuuuuuuuut...

[@WraithTDK]

Oh man! Kudos redacted! You screwed up now, comic!

[@mikkelflenstedjrgensen1140]

54

[@Cdr2002]

I hate to be that guy, but… you don’t still believe that Let That Be Your Last Battlefield isn’t about racism, right? Like, maybe this is my reading as a person of color, but the episode is… VERY about racism and it’s down the middle “actually mutual hatred is a bad” ending message is honestly its biggest flaw. Treating the oppressed as nearly as evil as the oppressor is just… wrong to me.

[@AT4W]

Yeah, no, I've changed my opinion since then - it's consequently why that bit got cut from the movie compilation video. It DOES seem to have that "mutual hatred is bad" issue, as you said, though it's propped up by amazing performances - especially from Frank Gorshin.

[@Cdr2002]

@@AT4W Ahh gotcha. And yeah, 60s Riddler is always a fun time. I must however say, #TeamLokai all the way

[@ThePreciseClimber]

1:03 Whoopi Goldberg was the first black woman in space?

[@tomasavendanozacarias5205]

im not the second coment