Apple's REALLY tempting me... MacBook Pro 14" 2021

[@trapical]

I love how Crab Rave is non-ironically the perfect way to do the speaker comparison because 1) everyone knows the song and how it SHOULD sound 2) that central beat in the song loops very quickly, so you can very easily swap speakers and immediately tell the difference whenever the beat loops.

[@confusedclouds]

crab people 🦀

[@GraysonZimmer]

Even further than that, it's dmca free, it has both sub bass and mid bass allowing laptops like the macbook to flex it's sub bass range and giving a chance to laptops that can't reach that low. It's also mixed quite well. I approve.

[@rendoesmath]

They should have tested LTT intro song tho we know it better :)

[@Rhythmattica]

It doesn't matter the genre..... Maybe just blast pink noise..... That'd be actually more respective.... Hmmmm .... Mic , Mic Pre, ADC... etc. Lets just say , its louder... lol

[@Rhythmattica]

To add... Prodigy did it first., That Phat Landed.

[@gabitobito]

Anthony is such a good host honestly

[@troymagic3802]

He is better than lines 100%

[@ImsenCooking]

Yeah for sure

[@Neoxon619]

No lies detected

[@AmritGrewal31]

@Ladioz they're both on the same team

[@Bird-nx5ef]

@@troymagic3802 yes i would say he is better than "lines"

[@bigskybob]

Anthony is my favorite LTT host. More Anthony!!! He brings SO MUCH credibility to this type of video.

[@GeraldMMonroe]

He's the most technically skilled and looks the most like us, the audience.

[@jg54sayaka11]

@@GeraldMMonroe I actually chocked reading that lmao I'm a skinny fuck but probably accurate.

[@User-cb4jm]

@@GeraldMMonroe a man of the people 😤

[@St0ner1995]

imagine having a laptop with a battery life measured in days, damn

[@damianxavier7343]

Pretty much any laptops battery life can be measured in days. For example my laptop has the battery life of around 1/2 a day. Ik what you meant, but I just couldn't resist trying to sound like a smartass.

[@KrzysztofBob]

Looking at those numbers, you could most likely get almost 3-day battery life with light tasks, like text editing, web browsing, watching videos or listening music for around 8h per day. And that's the 14" model. I assume it's even better with the 16" one, considering that it has 30% bigger battery. What's even more impressive, is that they don't throttle while being unplugged, something I really wish my HP Elitebook could do. If I was travelling a lot, I'd be temped to get one of those MBPs just for that reason.

[@damianxavier7343]

@V A still the same thing, cos what I said could also put as 0.5 days.

[@Cockalicious]

@@lopwidth7343 but can you get that battery life all while crushing benchmarks

[@nickwallette6201]

@@KrzysztofBob Probably not. One of the highest drains on the battery at low power is the LED backlight. So you could get quite a bit of life out of it if you were using it via a remote terminal, perhaps. :-)

[@arjunyg4655]

Note: you can “fast charge” at 96 W with the standard USB C cable too. It’s just on the 16 in that “fast charge” only means 140 W, which requires the magsafe cable apparently…

[@ShowXTech]

Maybe it will be compatible with the new USB-C charging standard that allows up to 240W (USB Power Delivery Specification Revision 3.1, Extended Power Range/EPR)

[@arjunyg4655]

@@ShowXTech People are saying you need new USB c cables for that, and also the thunderbolt ports might not support it. Seems kinda wack tbh. The brick is already designed to support USB PD 3.1 so why not finish the job…🤷🏻‍♂️

[@cht473]

@GH0STST4RSCR34M Xiaomi's solution is not a part of the standard.

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@arjunyg4655 bedside usbc pd 3.1 is brand new doofus …

[@RunForPeace-hk1cu]

@@cht473 you are as clueless as Jake paul

[@thedigitalrealm7155]

Really love Anthony's hosting style, a little more relaxed while remaining clear. Also quite a soothing 'radio voice' compared to high energy Linus. Great to see more of him.

[@CriCroCrav]

The intro with notch 0:41 JAJAJAJA

[@jondycz]

That was super annoying ngl

[@ArianrhodTalon]

I second that.

[@mayankboob279]

Hahaha I thought something was wrong with my phone 😂

[@LeftJoystick]

I didn’t even notice it.

[@ChimenyDust]

Lol when u on iPhone it just becomes unnoticeable

[@ryancox2134]

Would love to see you guys integrate professional audio benchmarks into your testing, especially with Logic being one of the most used DAWs and Apple dominating the audio space. Comparing export times in something like Studio One or Pro Tools on Mac vs. PC is something I'd be interested to see. I'd also like to see how these new Macs line up against the first gen M1 Macs in Logic.

[@TheCrypt1c]

What do you mean by 'dominating the audio space'

[@JoeARedHawk275]

@@TheCrypt1c It’s always surprising to see people who don’t know just how widespread Macs are lol

[@vrptl]

yes please, but seeing as we're 31 people and counting seems quite unlikely they will, but would love to see this!

[@TheUruse]

Maybe they don't have someone that qualified to do that stuff?

[@TheCrypt1c]

@@JoeARedHawk275 I know they are used in music world, but dominating? Don't think so

[@Schneizel1208]

Everyone: We want a quality, top-notch laptop Apple: Say no more

[@christopherditchburn4769]

iTards: We want a grossly overpriced peice of iCrap cos we have 'special needs'. CrApple: Say no more $$$$$ Ka-Ching!

[@nayan.punekar]

@@christopherditchburn4769 Lmao true though

[@jumbomuffin1316]

@@christopherditchburn4769cry more 🤡

[@laifyalif]

@@christopherditchburn4769 ?

[@SeanG_EE]

I really love seeing Anthony host. His voice is so soothing and he seems so reasonable and down to earth.

[@ooziepro]

>reasonable and down to earth "WE PAID OVER $30000 TO GET EVERY VERSION APPLES M1 PRO-"

[@0newheeldrives]

except that one time he and Linus did the tech support challenge...

[@a4thegodofvideogames847]

Anthony tech tips...?

[@iAmTheSquidThing]

He certainly has got that classic "radio voice".

[@a4thegodofvideogames847]

@@iAmTheSquidThing true

[@randaranatunga7259]

“Notch to bottom” That actually has quite the ring that it haha

[@BetterCallZeyad]

its annoying lmao

[@sporkbot]

As a long time mac user and apple fan, you guys are honestly my go-to source for apple reviews now. No Apple Fanboy BS, just honest, fair, well-researched, and well prevented reviews to help me decide how to spend my hard-earned money. Thanks guys

[@blargd]

“It’s almost like thin at any costs held them back” Johnny Ive weeps somewhere

[@EtanChamare]

It’d be really cool to see a little update video for Blender rendering when Metal support is fully enabled.

[@dogepurp]

If it’s a blender test then they should do eevee and cycles because they’ve preformed so different on the base m1 machines

[@javiej]

Don't expect too much improvents, Blender uses OpenGL which already translates 1:1 to Metal, or at least there is barely any performance impact for translating it (don't forget that Metal started as a succesor to open GL..). They could get some extra speed but it would require very intensive and complicated Metal-only developments, and all for what?, a 10% extra?, do not expect too much.

[@EtanChamare]

Blender only uses OpenGL for the viewport and Eevee. Cycles doesn’t use OpenGL at all, and all the work being done with Metal is for Cycles, so it will be a lot faster than it currently is (since currently all rendering on macs is done with the CPU). The benchmarks this channel uses are all done in Cycles. As for that extra speed, you never know. It’s not Blender that’s pouring resources into the Metal backend, it’s Apple that is. Optimizing the Metal backend is actually next up on their todo list. It’s likely to be comparable in performance to the existing Nvidia and AMD backends. The only difference will likely be the performance of the specific GPU being used.

[@javiej]

@@EtanChamare Still I am not optimistic. All benchmarks I can find comparing GPU intensive aplications (not CPU intensive ) show poor improvements between Rosseta and M1 native (as a difference to CPU ones). A different thing is converting CPU tasks into GPU (render "by hardware"), but that would be a lot of development work. I would not expect it anytime soon. Regarding Nvidia and AMD I'm afraid they play in a different league, specially Nvidia (modern Nvidia obliterates the M1 Max in most GPU intensive benchmarks, by several times. This is not something that could be solved with optimizations (which in most cases Blender will do for both anyway). The M1 is great at CPU performance, thermals and battery life , but whenever I need GPU performance it feels like a toy.

[@EtanChamare]

@@javiej I don’t think you understand. This isn’t Rosetta vs native. blender is already native. This is CPU rendering vs GPU rendering. Every GPU manufacturer is having a backend built to support rendering on their GPUs. The code for actually rendering is the same for all of them and it’s already written. It just swaps out the backend based on what GPU you have. Full Metal support for Cycles is expected in Blender 3.1, which will be released in March, 2021. It’s unlikely that the backend will have any more overhead than Nvidia’s backend and AMD’s backend. This overhead has little to do with the actual GPU hardware. As for actual GPU performance, yes, Nvidia’s desktop GPUs are obviously going to be faster, but M1 Max is supposed to be comparable to the mobile RTX 3080 in terms of raw compute power. But we won’t know the real-world performance of any of the M1 chips for Cycles rendering until the Metal backend is finished and committed into the build for Blender 3.1

[@SpartanJRT3]

I have the m1 max 16 inch and it has handled everything I’ve thrown at it so far faster then even my desktop, it also has ridiculously long battery life.

[@HanSolo__]

Yeah but cmparing good camera to XP15 potato is not a special achievement.

[@josiahking4915]

Thanks for letting us know, rich boy

[@thalberg-]

What have you thrown at it thus far?

[@fliec8616]

Cheers mate just had to shove that In There didn’t you

[@Glade4]

@@HanSolo__ there is nothing better than that

[@nizzan91]

The binaural speaker test is massively appreciated. Please do this in the future with audio stuff, it gives a much clearer idea what the thing sounds like.

[@matthewnelson3589]

Buddy, why you tryna sound smart? Binaural audio only really exists from at least 5.1 or higher setups/headphones🤌

[@alexdubois6585]

@@matthewnelson3589 wrong. You only have two ears. Binaural takes into account how the sound waves bounce on your ears and in your head. It is captured where it is transmitted. So if you have good headphones you do hear a significant difference from classical recording, to the point you think a person is in the room... Go listen to few samples.

[@muizzsiddique]

@@matthewnelson3589 That's surround sound. Binaural is simply 2 drivers pointing directly into your ears, not stereo speakers.

[@lukesmith9059]

I just got the 16 inch version in and I can confirm the speakers sound amazing, like a good standalone bluetooth speaker. The stereo imaging is quite impressive when you sit front and center.

[@matthewnelson3589]

I only mean that you won’t notice binaural audio with a damn MacBook. No shot it’s surround sound

[@randaranatunga7259]

The notch in the animated intro sequence had me 😂

[@jondycz]

That was supper annoying. Just convinced me even more i would have hated owning this laptop

[@Josh-sf3zv]

@@jondycz if all the specs get shafted aside and make you hate the laptop just because of the tiny notch, you’re insane lmao

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@Josh-sf3zv it's in one of the most importants aspects of a laptop... the display.... you know, the thing that you are going to look at all the time

[@selin9839]

@@jesusbarrera6916 you mean the top of the line 1600nit bright 120hz color accurate 16:10 display? Yeah I think they nailed the display

[@jesusbarrera6916]

@@selin9839 yeah, with a huge notch in the way...

[@edsbloggingcom]

Anthony is by far the best linus tech host. By far….very knowledgeable, great sense of humor and always that light undertone and always entertaining. Keep up the good work!

[@op-xrs1703]

I love when Anthony hosts, he gets his point across so well and he’s so calm and collected when he talks. It’s brilliant.

[@momomobilus]

As a software developer I appreciate the Firefox compile time benchmark but would really love to see some benchmarks using docker containers with and without Rosetta

[@izmno]

@@DarkWanderer675 +1

[@Fattony6666]

Would love to see that in multiples languages as well, with and without Rosetta Stone

[@blablubb1234]

Check out this channel: kzbin.info He covered many developer related things on the new MacBooks

[@GoldenJar]

Apple has finally managed to tempt me with this one. I have not been overly impressed with the recent MacBooks, but the new m1 pro/max macbook pros are on a whole new level. Update: I bought the 14" M1 Pro MacBook Pro (unbinned chip with 16GB RAM) and it's been a great laptop to use. I can imagine myself using it for many more years to come. I also bought a skin from Marmelade Cat. It has a cutout for the Apple logo at the top skin and a cutout for the MacBook Pro engraving at the bottom skin. So far this was the only skin brand I could find that has the bottom cutout for the MacBook Pro engraving 👍

[@derbigpr500]

By recent Apple products you mean any iMac in the last 5 years being cheaper than a PC built from identical parts? Or iPhone's that are so dominant in terms of performance that even two generation old iPhones still beat latest Android phones in most benchmarks, and latest iPhones score twice or three times as high as 2nd best phones? Apple has been impressive for years, the haters are just incredibly ignorant to that fact.

[@philorgneopolotin8762]

BeyerT1 not to mention the AirPods max that have among the best sound quality, noise canceling, and transparency on the market. Yeah the price is too high, but _nothing_ is at all “unimpressive” or underwhelming about them. Yeah you pay a premium for them. But what you actually get is absolutely worth it, if you have the money.

[@romanbaranovichi5375]

@@philorgneopolotin8762 AirPods Max are overrated, they don’t have the best sound quality or ANC among wireless headphones

[@shutupimgod8268]

@Michael Kelley yeah idk what he's going on about. iPhones are solid but I guarantee my android would best them on almost any benchmark

[@maneesh2316]

@@shutupimgod8268 impossible There's no Android that can beat iPhone in any benchmark

[@jezzaRTW]

Anthony is like the Canadian “Woz”. Maybe that’s why he is so nice to listen to!

[@Bann]

What?

[@MrArteez]

I'm happy that Anthony got to make this video, he's a really good host!

[@GroundZer0000]

No he's not, we want Linus

[@ShockingPikachu]

He’s awesome! Love him presenting :D

[@littlejackalo5326]

And he's really the only one at LTT that is into Apple products, besides the weird red headed kid that does the Mac Address channel for LMG. He's still using a 2011 MBP!!!

[@ShockingPikachu]

@@littlejackalo5326 a 2011 mbp well if it ain’t broke and still fast enough to do what you need to, no real need or push to upgrade ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@MArca-hj3xv]

For the first time in a decade, this is the only time I got interested and excited by an Apple product and for the first time considering getting one.

[@chrisyang3130]

2:32 FYI you can still do fast charging with USB-C as long as you have the 96W or 140W power brick

[@00SNIVY00]

I think USB C might still be limited to USB PD 3.0, rather than 3.1? So you'd only get the max 20V 5A instead of the 28V 5A that the MagSafe cable provides when using the 140W Adapter. Still fast charging, at least for the 14", but maybe not the 16".

[@mirage809]

For benchmarking the GPU in gaming: the Dolphin emulator has a native Apple silicon release. That could be an interesting one to compare with. Load up Rogue Squadron and watch those laptops burn.

[@wujianhong]

This plus all the native Minecraft implementations out there from lunar client to m1-multimc-hack. Minecraft can be decently demanding as well with enough shaders and textures.

[@TheJoseUrena]

@@wujianhong but the M1 can do realtime raytracing and something like DLSS? I dont't think it can

[@GarethPW]

@@TheJoseUrena There aren’t any Java mods which use raytracing accelerators anyway

[@CallumAi]

It’s not exactly native on the graphics side. It’s Vulkan running under the MoltenVK translation layer for Metal.

[@trashandchaos]

Man dolphin runs like a dream even on the regular M1.

[@jupters]

Great video, although I missed benchmarks for software development applications, like XCode or Android Studio. MacBooks are definitely developers’ favorites, so missing that felt like an oversight.

[@Moonwired]

Well that’s slightly nuts, but i can see the editing team really wanting to take a look at rendering on m1 max, considering the numbers.

[@fanciestbanana4653]

I don't think so, they usually offload rendering to a dedicated server.

[@marsovac]

that would be silly... perhaps if you need to work on the go, but if you have a decent computer which outperforms it by a large margin and costs less or have a dedicated rendering farm in the company which can do the same thing 50 times faster ... makes no sense. Point is: the M1 gives performance per watt and portability, which are not the major factor for editing/rendering duties. Performance alone is. For working on the go and especially for code compilation it is good, and I could see it used for a lot of software developers that need to travel and/or work from home, however most software developers are in the Microsoft or Linux ecosystem, for which you would need virtual machines, and I don't know how good it is for that.

[@battlebuddy4517]

@@marsovac plus the benefits of having a nividia professional GPU if you using work related hardware

[@kareemellebany3559]

some staff there do use macs. But they mostly use premier and the rest of Adobe suit on highly rigged windows desktops. They wouldn’t really need to switch to Mac unless they decide to change to Final Cut pro. Then they can see the gains. I think they also have multiple workflows dependent on Windows.

[@TheCompyshop]

@@fanciestbanana4653 No they don’t. They use the server for file storage only. Rendering is done on the machine

[@AlexGelinas42069]

I've been using my 16" with the Max chip for the past week, and it's easily been the best laptop I've ever owned. As a developer who does machine learning, this portable powerhouse has totally changed the game for my workflow - especially now that I'm not tied to my desktop! Also, the battery life is truly fantastic, I went for 5 days without charging and doing light/medium dev work whenever it was on, along with watching streaming videos. It's extremely expensive, but for the first time in many years it actually feels worth it for a MBP

[@randfee]

what kind of ML do you do? I was wondering about the performance with python packages numpy, scikit-learn or tensorflow. Since ARM has no AVX and Rosetta can't emulate any AVX, I fear for the worst in these use cases. I hope there'll be well optimized ARM64 compiled versions of the right tools rather sooner than later. I'd be really interested to learn about the performance there ... still waiting for my 16" MBP...

[@suvalaki]

m1 has cuda?? personally i built a server especially for cost effective ML prototyping workflows. Whats the advantage this machine? (are you training locally lol??). Is it significantly better than the pro? 5 days of battery does seem cool though...

[@rainbowkrampus]

Lucky. I just got mine today.

[@RimaNari]

That's interesting... please tell us about your workflow and the tools you use! I can't imagine ML without CUDA...

[@AlexGelinas42069]

​@@RimaNari Oo, apparently I got a few replies to this and never got a notification - sorry! (Hopefully the other folks see this also). To answer the prior questions, no CUDA as it doesn't have an nvidia GPU. Yes, training locally. TLDR is that we do use the cloud & bigquery & spark for quite a bit, however there are parts of our app which use ML directly in-app because what we make is designed for both online and offline use. In order to ensure our butts are covered, we train & test certain models locally in order to ensure consistency and also performance when compared to when we're doing API calls over the wire. We are also not using Py libraries for the most part - we've actually built our own based off of the gorgonia project (and we've contributed back of course

[@UnoriginalElephant]

Glad to hear the fan rarely reaches max speed. I'm a software engineer and my 2018 MacBook pro has been screaming regularly since I got it. I'm due for an upgrade in February, so hopefully I'll get one of these ☺️

[@Fall3nPR]

Try replacing the thermal paste?!

[@akanta5746]

@@Fall3nPR its a macbook lol, you wish

[@Fall3nPR]

@@akanta5746 it’s easily doable just like any other laptop or PC lol

[@ricosrealm]

MBP M1 are unbeatable in the quiet/noise rating. It's really a new category to consider now since most x86 laptops have always traded off fan noise for performance due to the high power low efficiency of those chips.

[@heyaisdabomb]

I have a 32gb 24 core m1 max, and with 2 thunderbolt apple displays, these thing rips through everything. I work with large amounts of data, including machine learning, and it plows through hundreds of thousands of pieces of data like nothing. Defiantly recommended for any software engineer, but especially if you in machine learning or big data.

[@emmaheier7027]

its impossible not to love Anthony at this point honestly

[@SyphinSki]

It’s completely possible.

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

​@@SyphinSki Lol, I wouldn't ever recommend anyone love any presenter to this level. Sure there are people you can like and enjoy watching, but never put them on some kind of pedestal like we see so many doing here. Work on self improvement and put yourself on the pedestal.

[@SyphinSki]

@@Ryan_DeWitt I agree 1000%. You are a very smart man.

[@emmaheier7027]

@@Ryan_DeWitt ya 100%, im mostly in it for the meme. don't get me wrong i like Anthony but cant be blinded by it

[@emmaheier7027]

@@SyphinSki i do realize now in hindsight i could've gone quite abit lighter in terms of praise. seems like a cool dude but it can be far too easy to fall into the cult mindset as i've seen with elon musk

[@AlexPaluzzi]

Want to say thanks for including the 5950X + RTX 3090 as a small point of reference. It's the exact config of my own desktop and I love that it's grayed out at the bottom of the chart making it clear you're not comparing a laptop chip to it. It's still very helpful for me. Love that kind of detail. As always Anthony killed it.

[@exporter1011]

After getting a 14 inch, can confirm the speakers are amazing

[@walmartpimp2]

"Thin at any cost held them back" well said. Ever since Jony Ive left Apple, Apple has stopped prioritizing style over substance, and they are killing it. I honestly think Jony Ive was fired from Apple, but Tim Cook was nice enough to let him tell everyone he resigned.

[@casualdecade]

Absolutely. The death knell of his silly style over substance thing will be when they finally redesign the 'magic mouse.'

[@archae108]

AH, SO NOW WE HAVE SOMEONE TO BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS!

[@walmartpimp2]

@@archae108 It's just a theory of mine, but if you look at the evidence it all points to Jony Ive. He did a great job back in the day with the original iMac, iPod and iPhone, but it just stands to reason when it came time to cash in his chips the MacBook Pro would be his banker.

[@archae108]

@@Dylan-zm3ht yes

[@egbront1506]

I don't think he was fired. He wanted to leave years ago for family reasons but was persuaded to stay on.

[@ChrisPkmn]

There is no skin smoothing algorithm. You're glowing Anthony!

[@SyphinSki]

Nah he really isnt

[@iskess2134]

@@SyphinSki silence.

[@sleepyva7281]

There's definitely a skin smoothing algorithm. I love the guy, but you shouldn't lie about a valid concern of the review for a compliment

[@SyphinSki]

@@iskess2134 nah

[@tusk_]

@@sleepyva7281 t'was a joke, man

[@geordievapeman]

They do charge at 94 watts through MagSafe AND through type C. Certainly using the C to C cable that came with my iPad and the 96w plug that my Macbook pro 14 came with. System report says the charge power input and it gets 94w from magsafe and rom the type C in the 96w plug.

[@trainsandplanes8304]

There’s practically no difference, they’re likely using two different PD charging profiles.

[@SeanRosairo]

Yes!! I'm with Anthony on having the half height function row and the touchbar (I really like the touchbar for music apps and the Affinity suite of creative apps. Love changing a virtual slider instead of having to mouse over to it for things like brush size, or shaping a sound

[@Phillip1220]

YES

[@InventorZahran]

The touch bar can be useful, but I didn't want to give up my function keys just to have it. Now we could get the best of both worlds...

[@balaclava351]

Yeah, this is the obvious solution. The touchbar was actually an innovative idea from Apple. I really love it for development work. I do miss the F keys though. Having both would be amazing.

[@grqfes]

idk i dont really use the f keys that much unlike everyone else on this planet apparently

[@User-cb4jm]

The Touch Bar was also quite buggy on my 2017, god forbid its frozen and 1/3rd of your Command + Option + Esc plan is on a digital screen that is frozen - only a force shutdown from there. I gave it a good go as I was intrigued by it but as much as I found it aeshetically pleasing, I have to admit by nature it doesn't offer anything you can't already do quicker with regular keyboard shortcuts, i.e. bold, italic, underline, and aligning text in Word - I just use the shortcuts for all of that on the fly rather than stop and hit the button on the TB.

[@PentaxEnthusiast]

Shout out to the 2011 MBP, mine finally fell victim to the AMD GPU chip giving up the ghost, but I can't argue with the 10 years it's lasted after SSD and RAM upgrades.

[@mau5atron]

The laptop is still usable if you disable the GPU with a script, falling back to integrated intel graphics. However you’ll have issues I think if you connect to an external display. I haven’t tried it myself.

[@zeromant80]

Disable the gpu using nvdata value (afaik) in recovery mode.

[@EGPeppered]

@@zeromant80 A more permanent fix is to reprogram the GPU mux and then depower the dGPU. That way it runs cooler and gets better battery while at it. You do lose control over brightness as well as lose the video out through thunderbolt. The reprogramming utility is called "Demux" Do be warned though, it involves soldering.

[@anbar]

My 2011 MBP (with SSD and ram upgrades) is still kicking. Hoping it stays alive until I can get my hands on one of these new machines

[@W1ldTangent]

@@EGPeppered There's some other fixes for that flaw, some hardware, some software, all with their own caveats. At a certain point is it worth the time and effort to keep a 10 year old machine running? My 2011 MBP does still work but I couldn't tell you the last time it turned on so I'm only taking that statement on faith lol.

[@adrianbjones]

Watching this on my late 2011 MBP - I guess it's finally time, although I am going to miss my matte screen :(

[@edwinderas8305]

i upgraded from my mid 2010, best decision ever :D

[@thewiirocks]

Anthony, I think you have a misunderstanding about how Unified Memory works. In lower end PC systems, using main memory for graphics doubles the memory need since every graphical object in main memory needs to be copied into the area set aside for the GPU. But in the Apple systems, the Metal APIs use the reference to the object in main memory without making a copy. This eliminates any additional memory pressure AND frees up the bus considerably. The greater availability of bus bandwidth has knock on effects like making the SSD access more transparent. In a lot of tests, there was no appreciable difference in swapping to disk versus keeping the full program in memory. I’m not saying that 32GB is a bad recommendation. Only that the reasoning behind the recommendation may be in need of an update.

[@Fections_Burner]

Yeah 32gb is not necessary AT ALL for apple silicon unless if you’re trying to go for a maxed Max chip

[@hok3ge]

@@Fections_Burner 32 gb is definetly necessary if u are planning to use a laptop for at least next 4-6 years , and since it cant be upgraded

[@aravindpallippara1577]

Arent the ssds soldered in? They tend to burn out fast when used for swap as used by the new m1 chip. Would definitely get a larger memory just to prevent that fast ssd degradation.

[@2nd-place]

@@hok3ge I agree that 32GB is what I would recommend minimum for most professionals looking at buying this and using it for that long. 16GB is plenty for normies. Years down the road it will be worth it to have 32GB in such a powerful machine as it will keep up better than most things that came before. That is until Apple smokes it with the rumored M3 Max which allegedly has 40 CPU cores on 3nm.

[@hasimsait]

didn't amd also enable something like that for their gpus to increase the effective bandwith last year or sth? I don't do opencl, only cuda so I didn't look into it but I remember seeing it (just looked it up and they called it infinity architecture/cdna)

[@jimjamjon2285]

That was a top notch intro, Anthony!

[@ShiroCh_ID]

lol i almoat want to make same comment, thankfully i was not do it yes it was a top NOTCH

[@siic]

Top-notch indeed

[@allig4t0r]

Underrated comment

[@TheJamesKF]

As a Dad, I approve of this comment.

[@billhart9832]

Anthony rocks the review with superlative tech depth, a polished narrative voice and just enough humor to make the mass of specs a technophile dessert. Looking forward to the rest of the series while pleading with my boss for additional funding.

[@AirBudProMax]

Anthony: “oh, we do have a binaural recording rig?”

[@takshshahh]

Me listening to it on a new MacBook and actually feeling the stereo. 😌

[@Prodzick]

@@takshshahh stereoception

[@cubertmiso]

that crab dancing song is so infuriating way to show anyone if sound quality is good or bad. it always sounds cheap. what are we missing here? what made them(linus) to choose that song to be the standard sound clip.

[@Prodzick]

@@cubertmiso Everyone can access the original clip so can have an idea on how it looks and sound. It's simply really good for free dmca testing.

[@cubertmiso]

​@@Prodzick You must understand that there are better options in free audio space available for this problem they are trying to solve? No need to listen white noise or that oversimplified ringtone from the past. They could even produce/buy it themself. But maybe you are right and I am unreasonable with that suggestion.

[@Vaelenthior]

15:12 That’s the exact configuration I ordered. Thanks for the validation, Anthony!

[@erickpadilla9826]

Also my case! Huge sign of relief to see Anthony like the same config as I did. Ordered on the 22nd and still waiting until december to receive it. Needed this validation hahahaha

[@buildman126]

My condolences

[@caleballen1330]

I like seeing the comparison laptop vs desktop. Sometimes we start to think laptop tech can get similar performance but not quite yet

[@CyberBoy8799]

It makes my day anytime I see Anthony hosting a video!

[@techdiscussionsmore5055]

Same here.

[@bestechYtBotBH]

Same here ;)

[@bestechYtBotBH]

@Joe yep me too, haven’t either at the time of writing my approval comment, Anthony is awesome 👏 😎

[@SyphinSki]

I don’t like him very much. I’m not a fan of his weight and his hair…

[@Julmaa87]

Why? Why does everyone love him so much?

[@v1kash955]

everybody gangsta' till they reduce the notch by 10% and release next year. 😂

[@lodestarsd4456]

Cya in 5 years for a complete notch removal.

[@sp3edstr]

I just realized you put a notch in the intro video! 😂😂

[@jacobeaton4042]

The notch in the intro really confused me, I was wondering why my phone had a second notch for like 10 seconds 😂

[@Handelverse]

The notch intro is spot on😭

[@RandomTheories]

top notch I would say 👌

[@langoyalo8410]

@@RandomTheories stop it pleaseeeeeeeeeeee

[@sauceBoss00]

love to see how far Anthony has come as a host, I don't think I have ever not liked any of his content

[@Jamvan001]

Can you all quit this condescending nonsense? The guy has been making quality videos for a long time now, this "Oh he's really grown" crap is just a meme perpetuated by sad little people desperate for KZbin upvotes, of all things. Just stop.

[@sauceBoss00]

@@Jamvan001 u mad bro?

[@Jamvan001]

@@sauceBoss00 lol gottem

[@sauceBoss00]

@@Jamvan001 you seem a little angry buddy want me to open your lunchable for you and get you a Capri sun?

[@Jamvan001]

@@sauceBoss00 Haha savage

[@Optimus7591]

I like how they added the notch into their intro

[@Alex-ug7hz]

There are a *small* number of M1 native games that I was able to find (and tested one). Notably: Baldur's Gate 3, Asphalt 9, Disco Elysium, and Minecraft. Nothing that y'all usually benchmark, but Asphalt 9 at least should give representative results. Running Disco Elysium on my M1Max is shockingly slick, the computer barely heats up.

[@igameidoresearchtoo6511]

All of those are iPhone apps..

[@aerospacenut]

@@igameidoresearchtoo6511 only 2 of those are available on iOS: Asphalt and Minecraft.

[@javiej]

Don't expect that list to change too much, the biggest game developer (and investor in 3rd party game studios) is no other than .. Microsoft, the principal rival for Apple. And the next one is EA, currently in a legal war against Apple. Then you have companies like Sony or Rockstar fighting to rise their gaming platform that will never accept the terms of the Apple shop. Having a GPU capable machine is far from enough to create interest in game studios as everybody is trying to capitalize on the gaming platform itself and the associated cloud services, which makes Apple a competitor for most of those companies more than a client. Having GPU performance is just a basic pre-requisite. And the M1 is not even there.

[@loomaoo]

@@aerospacenut I guess he games, but unfortunately does not do research too..

[@groundcontrol6876]

12:28 They're actually called shanks, not collars. I used to repair commercial aircraft when I was a structural mechanic at Lufthansa. I removed and installed so many fasteners. Riveting is fun as hell! I kinda miss that part of the job, but I don't miss being a slave at all.

[@framebuyframe2493]

I am looking forward to the 16" review similar to this one. Excellent video Anthony.

[@thecma3]

Love to see Anthony growing as a host. His speech has become so much more tactile and precise in camera! I'm glad to see LTT investing in him because he brings a lot to the table.

[@Jamvan001]

Can you all quit this condescending nonsense? The guy has been making quality videos for a long time now, this "Oh he's really grown" crap is just a meme perpetuated by sad little people desperate for *KZbin* upvotes, of all things. Just stop.

[@misterbarcode4586]

@@Jamvan001 Waah Waah, cry more baby boy

[@User-cb4jm]

@@Jamvan001 Agreed. Anthony deserves better than to be patronised and treated like a child by KZbin commenters, let's actually respect his intellect and focus on genuine commentary and debate on what he SAYS like we do with every other LTT member!

[@RiteshKudalkar]

Lmao, I like how the intro has a notch just like the MBP 😂

[@TheNicofu]

lmaooo i didnt even notice

[@tehbeard]

4:52 I need Anthony sliding about as a gif, right now.

[@rishi_sk]

The shear amount of data in this video is absolutely amazing.. which is sort of expected from Anthony at this point😅. Was waiting for this since its launch.. the best review ever..!

[@LightningHelix101]

Right?!? Reviews like this really stand out

[@rdvgrd6]

I didn’t notice the notch at all in the intro until comments bring it up. That’s how much I care about the actual notch.

[@damianxavier7343]

Cool

[@MultiVigarista]

Great review from Anthony as always!!

[@w3bv1p3r]

I love what apple has been doing lately, it's almost like they're taking the best designs they had before, and bringing them back with technology for today's standards, like the OG iPhone SE and the new SE2 for example

[@fecokofalvi1844]

It's almost like they have common sense now, like most of the rest of the industry

[@mitchellroberts7954]

@@fecokofalvi1844 woah now, let's not go too far into the "common sense" realm. Their anti-repair attitude is pretty bad, and come on, that notch? I'll give them credit for the small common sense improvements, but nothing is stopping them from going back to the days of Wozniak and using common sense in the entire design.

[@ekarolak]

It's like they are taking things that are industry standard for years, implemenmting them 5 years too late and calling it with dumb names. So basically what Apple is doing since it exists. Only new thing is the notch which is dumbest thing ever - even on smartphone it's dumb, but on laptop it's unforgivable.

[@DanKop2]

@@ekarolak the M1 is revolutionary... Fym lol

[@ekarolak]

@@DanKop2 Yeah, it'a a revolution! You have to change CPU to change RAM or GPU. WOW. Such innovation.

[@starparticles6250]

Ended up returning my 16 after a year and got a 14. Much much happier but I will say I miss the 16s speakers. My goodness those were crazy.

[@daviescjh]

Anthony - love it when your videos come up. Great job!!!!

[@AdamCimarosti]

I've been working on my new 16" M1 Max since it arrived a few days and it's a piece of engineering art. The notch is "fine": It's a valid design compromise allows more room for content vertically. This is valuable. Other laptops just have a big top bezel. I know what I prefer.

[@d3lsl0w]

Haters gonna hate. With miniLEDs, it's virtually invisible when not in use. I like the extra space.

[@AdamCimarosti]

@@d3lsl0w Yeah, although even though I have the desktop theme set to "dark mode" you really need the desktop background to be black as well. This is kinda annoying actually. Maybe there's an option to always keep the menu bar solid black rather than transparent? The accessibility transparency settings don't quite do the right thing ? It'd be a noticeable improvement. For now, just fire up your photo editor to set the first few pixel rows to black ...eh. Teething issues.

[@XxMsrSzprzxX]

Correction on the notch. The housing has 3 more components. The ambient light sensor, the True Tone sensor, and the camera activation LED.

[@Octrox]

"The fans never even got to max speed." Combined with the performance, this is the main reason I ordered one

[@EthanHaque]

@John Smith I bought a m1 air because of how insane the efficiency of everything is. Everything (Keyboard, Touchpad, Display etc.) is just SOO much better IMO except for the OS. I understand some people prefer it, but I prefer windows way more. My dream is for MacBook hardware with full fledged windows.

[@retrocomputing]

@John Smith what's wrong with their products?

[@eckee]

@@retrocomputing his mommy doesn't have enough money

[@Lost-One-n9s]

@@retrocomputing anti consumer

[@retrocomputing]

@@Lost-One-n9s do you mean upgradability and repairability or something else?

[@Neoxon619]

I’ve been waiting for this review for weeks. And Anthony being the one to present it is icing on the cake. And yeah, I wouldn’t minded the Touch Bar staying with half-height function keys.

[@TinyBearTim]

What is that pfp

[@Neoxon619]

@@TinyBearTim It’s to show solidarity with the LGBTQ+ community as well as the Black community. Granted, I actually am Black. But you get my point.

[@kmmmoney]

If the faceID sensors werent ready, its easier to start manufacturing screens with the notch so the screen manufacturing doesn't have to change to accomodate the sensors when they are ready

[@AposerTV]

I’ve always loved Anthony and when he mentioned the Touch Bar I now love him even more. Hahaha, I thought I was one of the few that actually liked it. Granted, I don’t do a whole lot, so I can understand why some folks need function keys, but for someone like myself, I enjoy using it, even not a lot of apps supported it.

[@marc0523]

I liked the touch bar. The problem was that I also like the F keys, I want all the inputs!

[@spathens8225]

I honestly liked what he recommended; with the half height function keys and the Touch Bar

[@jo.v-c]

I was finding myself reflexively reaching for a holster until he clarified that it shouldn't be a replacement for the function keys. That I can accept.

[@tyrcipher8811]

I also like the touch bar. That was probably one of the driving force for me to get the Pro 13 over the air or even the Pro 14

[@StormShadowCrew]

Anthony is the best

[@hayatsu_]

The jump back from the MacBook Pro to the Dell XPS 15 on the speaker comparison really showed that the 14" MacBook is in a different league.

[@albert3316]

Been rocking the 14 inch M1 Max for a couple of days now, it’s an humiliation to the competition, they are truly years behind.

[@BlueJayYT]

That "grubby paws" footage in the intro hurt my eyes... so much grease... poor touchpad

[@xmlthegreat]

It's okay, it's just an instrument of apple's shadowy and nefarious world domination. The more it gets tortured the better.

[@jachymecek]

monke paws

[@jachymecek]

do monke have paws or hands?

[@omeadpooladzandi9786]

Hahahahaha Anthony chasing the other dude for the laptop was so funny. He was like nooo my precious!

[@yutub_hfn]

Antony makes this 16 minutes long video feels like less than 10 minutes. Good job.

[@nathanielescudero5379]

Anthony, thanks for speaking my language of geek so eloquently with charismatic presentation of the facts.

[@amirtorhan2762]

2:32 The 14" can fast charge just as fast using type C as the new MagSafe

[@Bacavoit]

1 day of battery is just mental. I remember my first laptop, a SONY VAIO with a C2D T2400 that could barely do a bit over 2-3 hours. Then I moved into a MacBook Pro 13 Early 2011 with an i5 2415M (I think) and lasted me around 7 hours and I loved it! Having over 3 times that amount is really mind blowing.

[@mattrittman]

Loved the ending 🤣

[@dothetontim]

2:32 - you get 'fast charging' on the 14" via USB C if you are using the 96w charger (or any 96+w charger). 'Fast Charging' is defined as reaching XX% within YY minutes, so on the 16" model it doesn't reach the same XX% on the larger battery, but it still charges 'fast' over USB C as well. It's still going 100mph, it just has further to go.

[@karenwang313]

I'll be very excited to buy one in two years or so once their prices get more reasonable. 3k is way too much to be spending on anything.

[@iankonstantino6648]

3k Is alot for someone who woulnt benefit from the power. For some professionals, that 3k laptop can save them thousands by being much faster and for many on site design studios that had to carry around imac pros and other higher end PCs now only need just a laptop. If you arent a professional the air is the best valued laptop you could possibly buy. You also have to remember that these laptops hold their value insanely well. I bought a $3200 MSI gaming laptop with 32gb of ram for my engineering class and in 3 years it was worth less then 1k. Try buying a 2thousand dollar MacBook from 6 years ago and it will still be around 900+

[@pulkitsharma6313]

What a review honestly and thank you for covering gaming too, as we are tech nerds but I have seen at least 3-4 people who just buy apple and thought they can play most of the games in it, afterwards when thry know that Mac OS is completely different OS, they feel like cheated, as no tech channel cover gaming, at least add the line that you can't game on it.

[@hichamismailialaoui6870]

So true

[@DoctorNemmo]

Disclaimer: Half of your steam games won’t run.

[@Nerfamus]

Upgrading from a 2015 IMac to a 14 Inch MacBook Pro. Cannot wait.

[@umangmalik]

Desktop Apple Silicon is going to be such a beast when it comes out

[@Necropheliac]

It's not mutually exclusive. You can use a Mac, a PC and Linux everyday; it's not against the rules. I use Linux and Macs for work, but I generally use my PC for gaming and IRC, and rendering video, because even the MacBook Pro 1X cannot beat my Nvidia 3080 ti in rendering a video. The lack of faceID on the camera is annoying. If I use face ID on my iPhone I should be able to use Face ID on my MacBook Pro. Also the display driver and/or the GPU in these macs have problems. Occasionally (About once per week), both of my Macbook Pros will just stop sending a signal to the external display unless I reboot the laptop. It's absolutely aggravating. I never have this problem on my PC. Also, one of the Macs is sending thunderbolt into a Caldigit TS3, and through the Caldigit it's sending an HDMI signal to the only HDMI display on my monitor. (The other 2 video inputs on the monitor are DP). For some reason The mac going into the HDMI port cannot figure out the native resolution of my monitor (5120x1440). When I use the trick to select a resolution manually, the highest resolution is 3840x1080 which is the right aspect ratio, but the resolution is wrong. No matter what I do, I cannot get the full resolution on the second macbook because its running HDMI out through the Caldigit. It's pretty irritating. I admire what Apple has done with their SoC, but the rest of the MacBook has some jenk that shouldn't be there for a laptop that costs over $3,000. @Anthony I have a workflow you can check to see if the fans scream. It involves running several apps in docker and there's an easy way to set it up. reach out to [e-mail] and I'll show you how to do it. I think the reason it creams the fan because some of the docker containers have a node.js instance that's constantly banging the CPU.

[@xqcl7090]

I agree with this take, it seems that there is some sponsorship going on.

[@Deraco1]

I know this is completely out of the subject but, Anthony's watch says: Alexandre Potvin Option 1: One double pack and a mixpre on one side for the continuous recording making it a bit easier to tie things together 😅

[@daywalker1978ab]

I like Anthony got the full Mac lineup review…impressive machines presented by a very good and likeable host. Thanks LTT

[@DocNo27]

Just set up my maxed out 16" - wow. The screen is amazing; so glad I just bit the bullet and got the 16" over the 14". The speakers are blowing me away - can't wait to start trying out some work and games on this bad boy! As for the notch - if you use dark mode it isn't noticeable. Indeed, the first time I saw a 14" in a store I didn't even think about the notch until the sales rep pointed it out. If anyone thinks their OCD won't tolerate the notch, there are already multiple apps as well as a built in display setting that will force everything below the notch. Me, I'm happy for the extra vertical screen space. The keyboard is definitely crisper and more precise than my 2015 MacBook Air. The shorter key travel is noticeable so far, but I think within a few days it won't bother me at all. I'm already typing way easier with fewer mistakes than my 2015 Air. Can't speak to the butterfly - never owned one of those Macs :p

[@davidflorey]

The notch reminds me of the very first ever iPad (which I still have tucked away somewhere). Apple designed it where there's actually internal space set aside for a front facing camera, but never sold them with front facing cameras. I imagine future MacBooks will have face ID on them...

[@holycitysilver5775]

Been waiting sooo long for this video from y’all! Anthony, you da man!!!

[@ric88keys]

Great summary, and I always enjoy Anthony's blend of laidback and passion rolled into one. Good work!

[@adityakhajuria9056]

great review and insights, 12:03 the way you tried to run it was fantastic made me laugh. Also loved that you put the advertisement/sponsorship in the end cause I find them so annoying in between the videos.

[@MichaelHickman3D]

Who else was anticipating this review and was happy Anthony got to do it!

[@sanalog0]

Said it once will say it again, we need more Anthony!

[@SyphinSki]

*you* need more Anthony. And there is plenty to go aROUND lol

[@holycrapitsjake_]

Hell yeah. I normally keep my MacBooks for 4-5 yrs before upgrading, but these things just sound way too awesome. Selling my 2019 MBP and grabbing this ASAP.

[@bangstudioscanada6397]

Anthony, you're a bloody brilliant presenter! I always learn something from your videos.

[@eboyjim]

This guy is my favourite on LTT. He's funny and thorough. I love his videos.

[@dinkarfowkar999]

Love how LTT put Notch in the intro😂😂😂

[@skittles7740]

Fun fact: The chapter is called "That Display tho"

[@20blog28]

Everyone can see that

[@skittles7740]

@@20blog28 but it's funni

[@kevinsalmador739]

*new display 🙂