LionD Walkaround | Get a 360-degree view of this all-electric school bus!

[@ezrakainz]

Glad to see the focus on long term reliability and repair

[@MJofLakelandX]

...and it's gone.

[@NYANcat-qf7eg]

​@MJofLakelandX yup. The compressor and the suspension is dying and our bus is 7 months old

[@williamhaynes7089]

Except that the workforce there was cut by 400.. good luck on getting a person to help you .

[@Ghostsrider14]

As an Industrial Maintenance Technician, I love that they placed Maintenance so high on the scale for importance. Can't tell you how many times an Engineer will design something and place a part that will wear down quickly into a position at which it takes hours to dig down to.

[@bobjohnston5527]

I watched video on a electric school in Quebec Canada. The front batteries between the front tires caught fire and the driver got out just in time. What would happen if the bus was full of students

[@Cain-x]

Having a vehicle that can be maintained easily is a win.

[@williamhaynes7089]

especially when the company goes bankrupt and parts will become impossible to get

[@MJofLakelandX]

Well, this aged like a soiled diaper. It was nice knowing you Lion Electric

[@HydroWorldOutlookPrimary5769]

It would sure be great to start seeing these used for bus fleets in US school districts sometime soon.

[@williamhaynes7089]

already did and now in Maine they cant get them fixed or keep them running

[@messyl1900]

Does the heating system for Winter time, run on battery power ?

[@theepichamster1443]

It can be battery or diesel powered. You choose.

[@lpdirv]

Air ride schoolbus, this is such a great feature over the old school busses and much safer. Well done, what a great product. Will be great to see the V2G capabilities.

[@danikmcintyre2068]

nope, diesel fuel, it would use too much electricity. all electric my ass, lololol

[@RogerSutton-ik9fj]

​@@danikmcintyre2068Yes you'd expect diesel heating for snow and ice use although the walk-around depicts electric heat pump which you'd need in hot weather

[@seangibbons6520]

Good looking bus made with ease of use for the driver in mind.

[@Wolfethyst]

Maybe it's just me, but I just think about the incredible schoolie conversions of these buses, lol

[@divergentfutures]

Right?! Portable home with a massive house battery.

[@Unicorn73673]

My only concern would be if the batteries go bad after how many years companies and districts tend to keep them we all know school bus engines last forever but batteries don’t

[@neiljohnson6815]

Are these the ones that are burning (2 so far) and loose all their range in cold weather?

[@bikdav]

Judging from what you said about the composite material build, is the bus body on frame or unibody?

[@TheViettan28]

I think most busé are body on frame.

[@bobdavis3357]

EVs are firehazards fot children,and you cannot put these fires out with water. This is a literal death trap for your children..

[@BluebirdICbustrainorganfan]

Why is the stop sign in the back of the bus instead of in the front

[@Athenstrainman]

California bus.

[@bikdav]

Some buses are that way depending on what the district demands.

[@automation7295]

School buses in other countries are either vans or normal buses with NO flashing lights and stop signs equipped. No need to stop all cars, they just slow down. And yet US and Canada still rely on their outdated bus regulations where all cars in all lane in both directions must stop unless there a big-ass median. No wonder why school bus in the US and Canada cause congestion and pollution from all the cars idling in a long time. School buses stopping traffic can cause delays on transit buses and truck deliveries, they can also cause people to be late at work.

[@tval3905]

The bus itself looks great but I think the battery comportment shouldn’t be on the front. The steering wheel shouldn’t include amber/red and door buttons because you’ll chase them around. We got old international bus and I didn’t like it. And the bus needs underneath storage. Our eLion C has no storage so we ended up using either the last for rolls of seat for storage or the first four rolls. Or sometimes we use other buses that have storage (diesel/cng bus).

[@dadejazzba402]

It's a school bus...not a greyhound

[@tval3905]

@@dadejazzba402 I guess you haven't taken a high school football trip.

[@dadejazzba402]

​@@tval3905 get one with wings and fly there...lmao

[@PatricioGarcia1973]

and december 2024 Lion electric out of business

[@NYANcat-qf7eg]

That's a good thing

[@Thebuscommunityleader]

She's one amazing clean bus, Great job guys.

[@NYANcat-qf7eg]

I can talk for hours about problems in thosebusess but will talk about the most common fails. The heater design is horrible using a diesel engine and causing fires because of it being poorly installed, the suspension is cheap and lasts 11 months in average, the battery life is very poor, the seats are small uncomfortable. The door motor fails on certain buses got an total engine failure. Poorly build and poor insolation with water getting in the bus by cracks when it's raining very hard. Sensors fail and most notable failure is the compressor weakening and failing

[@kolesnikovaanna6781]

Why didn't you hide the hvac system under the roof cover? Or an additional plastic cover

[@dadejazzba402]

It's a split

[@raymondrynehart]

the bus looks like its 50 years old

[@RobertBell]

It's comparable to a Lada from the 1980s

[@CrescentPlayZone]

The school buses had changed alot over the years this is what theyre using now

[@computerfan1079]

Love to see a very repairable vehicle!

[@RAM4elightbars]

Company went completely broke and shut its doors. Now, none of the schools that bought these have a way to have them worked on it all.. so much for repairable.

[@JamesHorton-fo3yv]

From California miss Gillig and Crown's.

[@YellowBussesAndCars]

Really interesting! But we in Ukraine don't have such buses only engines.

[@jaeluatl]

Don’t feel bad the rest of the world has engines too. The bus is new. They just designed it California Oakland county is the first one to deploy fleet of electric school buses.

[@luimackjohnson302]

Amazingly Brilliant! I need initial 20 of these school buses immediately in my country & some more later on. Great Product! Greetings from Madang, Papua New Guinea!

[@JoseVentura-f4b]

Front of the school bus look mean😆😆😆

[@jaymistry9311]

yeah, everything is nice pretty looking in the beginning but what about when you have a -30 degree condition with the charging plug frozen in ice and there's no way to charge the bus or when the bus stops due to the fact that's its not charged enough. I'm a truck tech and I am starting to see this a lot on the EV Transport trucks.

[@artiebrewt3170]

Just for the record those electronics compartments look very vulnerable. In fact it is somewhat shocking to see that there is so little between the electronics and the weather. The doors are flimsy and unlocked and there's just a standard looking gasket for the door. It's very dangerous if water or salt gets in there and short-circuits the battery.

[@cybervision_1]

that is done so the school systems replace the entire bus yearly

[@Neojhun]

WRONG You have no clue what you are talking about. The doors even have a thorough gasket seal to protect the power electronics. "if water or salt gets in there and short-circuits the battery" sure that might happen if the Whole Bus gets flooded. Why do people with zero experience with a wrench post absurd nonsense.

[@Neojhun]

@@cybervision_1 "replace the entire bus yearly" Even the 12v battery they chose is designed to last longer than normal. It's like you want to ignore facts just push some silly agenda.

[@Explorersea]

my school bus driver friends are really excited to see Electric buses coming, no fumes, quick start in the morning, quieter and hopefully more reliable, makes a lot of sense for two short runs a day, plenty of time to charge the batteries

[@aabsc]

Did you see the one if not two that caught fire in Canada? Luckily the last students had just got out but eventually one will catch fire with children inside which will hopefully result in a worldwide ban on electric school buses. Risking children's lives to virtue signal is criminal.

[@Explorersea]

@@aabsc understood, fires will happen, look at the data fuel fires are down but its much more likely a fuel car, truck, bus ect to catch fire than battery mobility

[@aabsc]

@@Explorersea When an EV catches fire the fire is 100 times worse and impossible to extinguish and can re-ignite for weeks or months.

[@boiii3productions945]

TOUCH CONTROLS? To be honest, I would prefer actual buttons you have to press since it’s possible they would have to be wiped clean and you don’t want those to be accidentally triggered. This is coming from outside the bus industry but yet I do give second thought to stuff as I apply same logic like I would to cars.

[@reggiebannister1080]

who here can smell the inside of that thing already.. that schhool buss smell the yelling the loud kids etc oh i miss school busses going to camp etc

[@corylee7726]

U have my attention

[@KenniSchrader]

A great video representing features of the Lion School Bus! Love it!

[@johnantal2014]

Wow those Electric School Buses don’t operate well at all. No wonder this company is going under, because their product is so horrible and no School District wants to buy them.

[@musicmusic6788]

Why you late for School Tommy ?.... The Bus ran out of Juice and then the Bus Driver had a Melt down.

[@Neojhun]

Stop with that nonsense.

[@musicmusic6788]

@Neojhun what Nonsense ?

[@sadikperez7564]

Lion Electric Company that were founded 2011

[@kolesnikovaanna6781]

Why didn't you say anything about the hydraulic brakes? Am i understand right that this bus works with hydraulic brakes? My opinion is that it is a main feature... i can't understand how it works for such a havy bus

[@Neojhun]

Umm most vehicles of this size have pneumatic AIR brakes not hydraulic brakes. Please stop spamming erroneous assumptions.

[@kolesnikovaanna6781]

@Neojhun I found in the internet information about HPB powe brake system which one was produced by wabco specific for ic bus

[@TheBlu04]

Lion is the modern day Wayne, I just wish there were versions in Diesel or with a generator of some sort

[@Neojhun]

WTF Stop pushing nonsense, there is no point for a newer company to try to compete with established companies in the Diesel Bus space. You just don't want EV Buses to exist in the first place. If you want a diesel bus just get it from those who already experience at building them. I don't want Facebook to run a Telegram Wire service for me.

[@kaitlynkerns6718]

The blue bumpers and rims look hideous. They ruin the appearance of the entire bus. Change those areas back to the traditional school bus color scheme of yellow and black. Then, you might have a decent looking unit.

[@Stefch2]

Blue shows that the vehicule is electric. This is mandatory for the firemen, police, towing etc.

[@SPFPORTUGAL]

Unless you’re in Ontario. The standard states black bumpers only.

[@blackhorseteck8381]

Has tighter panel gaps than a Tesla.

[@bradchandler3505]

Over priced fire traps

[@STS_DRAKO]

Duval county

[@pinkelephants1421]

FABULOUS. But I'm rather disappointed that there's no provision whatsoever for disabled students to ingress/egress & have a dedicated place to safety sit in a wheelchair. I guess standards must be much lower in Nth America than in much of the rest of the world. Separately, I'm totally flabbergasted that there appears to be no rooftop or ground mounted solar arrays to reduce energy costs, cost of production, and reflect that this is a company focusing on the sustainability of transportation. Surely, this is a major oversight on the part of the company.

[@EmperorNefarious1]

Disabled students are usually bused seperately for safety. As this allows for a smaller bus to go door with a lift. The school bus sits high to keep kids above normal car accidents (This is being comprimised by larger and taller SUVs recently.) As such there is no kneeling bus, and the last thing anyone wants is a big bus sitting on a major road while the driver is outside working on a lift.

[@pinkelephants1421]

@@EmperorNefarious1 Thanks. It's slightly different here in the UK as legislation means most public forms of transport are automatically designed to have integrated kneeling and ramp features plus an area dedicated to wheelchair and pushchair users. This isn't to say that we don't have any similar types of disabled transport to what you're describing.

[@aabsc]

Solar panels on a school bus would probably not provide even close to 1% battery charge if it spent an entire day outside in the sun, you clearly have no idea of the gigantic amount of power EVs require or the minuscule amount of power solar panels generate. Just a high speed EV charger for a car can consume as much power as 100 homes, think of how much charging a bus would take.

[@pinkelephants1421]

@aabsc What the hell are you talking about? I never said anything whatsoever about putting solar panels on a school bus. Reading comprehension skills matter....

[@aabsc]

@@pinkelephants1421 From your comment I was replying to "Separately, I'm totally flabbergasted that there appears to be no rooftop or ground mounted solar arrays to reduce energy costs, cost of production, and reflect that this is a company focusing on the sustainability of transportation. Surely, this is a major oversight on the part of the company." Maybe go for an Alzheimer's test?

[@internut33]

The stock is brutal and you’ll probably dilute to not go bankrupt. Get it together LION.

[@laurentgagne892]

i mean if you dca its not that much of a problem...im around 4$ and close to 3 $ on it 🚀

[@internut33]

@@laurentgagne892I DCAd all the way down. That’s lasted years.

[@laurentgagne892]

@@internut33 i dont dca only on lion ;) but many high intrinsic value positions ...im achieving over average return by doing this ;) i always ask people if they wish they bought lion at 25 or now under 2 ...

[@tommynickels4570]

Stocks brutal indeed but represents a Great opportunity now. Government funding is finally getting approved.

[@laurentgagne892]

@@tommynickels4570 im seeing mcdonalds, ikea and a shit load of schoolbuses

[@itzpossiblee]

Kamala Harris would be so proud.

[@bobjohnston5527]

Ticking time bomb when kids are on it.

[@benandolga]

Can you do better body bus design like some American super cool RVs? It doesn’t look elegant with gigantic round stop lights etc ! Most of the details of the bus like lights etc are made by retro military style ! This is school design ! It is not made for military! You completely ignore that fact! Even you are different company but you still mostly copy all classic school buses! Designers must do something competitive and beautiful!

[@CaddyBlues]

Refreshing to not see all the Facebook trolls on here claiming they know everything about EV's and how diesel is better. Where are they?

[@EthanFalkner2006]

Not everyone wants an EV, not everyone has to like absolutely everything. Why can't people like diesel or gasoline?

[@CaddyBlues]

@@EthanFalkner2006 lol

[@javierjavier7291]

I happen to like diesel especially an old 2 stroke beautiful sounding Detroit. Like in my 42 year old GMC RTS that starts right up and readily capable of a cross country trip. While this electric bus will never outlast a diesel bus. BTW i noticed on this electric bus has an extra door to escape for when it catches on fire 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jadon-sc1zj]

@@javierjavier7291 Found the Facebook troll.

[@WildWildWeasel]

@@CaddyBlues Typical brainless response, this is what they say when they can't counter a reasonable argument

[@lt8607]

Waste of money 🤑💰... Those buses will trap your kids if caught in an accident and guess what, those batteries will burn forever... Tell your local school district not to put your kids in danger ⚡

[@Collector3476]

If the vehicles don’t have a major flaw in the system then it shouldn’t catch on fire but it is always a good idea to have the vehicles checked out before they are deployed. School districts who are transitioning from fuel-based school buses to electric buses should establish a maintenance program to make sure that the electric school buses are in good condition and have them checked out for any potential safety hazards

[@Neojhun]

Probability of catching fire for such low energy density batteries is extremely low. These are not using high performance high C Rating and high energy cells. They achieved better safety by sacrificing range which they don't need.

[@aabsc]

@@Neojhun One if not two in Canada recently caught fire and looked like the entire bus has been drenched in gasoline, luckily the last student had recently gotten out but one day this will happen with kids inside and with the spread and intensity of lithium fires it's highly unlikely everyone will make it out.

[@cipdamboianu5139]

Nice paper weight u got there! Will be in a few years…

[@theempirestrikesback2939]

Why is US American school bus design that ugly and old fashioned ?

[@scottfleming2166]

Impressive, very nice school bus

[@biffhenderson1144]

Governments are often the best customers when it comes to flushing money down the toilet. Some products are only profitable when they are sold to governments. All fun and games until the first fire.

[@Neojhun]

LOL Pure nonsense fear mongering. Way better to flush money with more expensive matinaince and fuel cost. FYI VW Diesel Gate was not about CO2 climate change. It was about health damaging toxic emissions.

[@aabsc]

One caught fire in Canada recently, the entire bus was engulfed in flames. Luckily the last student had recently got out but one day they won't be that lucky.

[@COO415]

$600+K vehicle with a range of 150 miles. That's a seller right there 😜.

[@Lowerbcspotter]

dosent need far range

[@Drewcardello]

@@Lowerbcspotter rural districts would 400 mile ranges to conquer highway trips to far away schools for sporting activites.

[@COO415]

@@Lowerbcspotter Think again. Really 😊

[@Lowerbcspotter]

@@Drewcardello if it was that long they use charter busses...

[@Drewcardello]

@@Lowerbcspotter fair.

[@ishmaelruys7239]

*promosm* 🎊

[@WildWildWeasel]

Remember kids, insurance providers are REFUSING to insure EVs. Don't use them if you value your life.

[@Neojhun]

"REFUSING to insure EVs" Absurd wacky LIE! In most regions BEVs are just marginally more expensive to insure than similar ICE car. "REFUSING to insure" is a blatant fabrication. You clearly do not value the truth.

[@MJofLakelandX]

@@Neojhun Well, the truth is, is that Lion Electric is NOW bankrupt.

[@hacc220able]

Should have opened this plant in the south where unions do not rule the roost.

[@cleanenvironment8121]

If you love your children, do not put them on a Electric Bus or Car. Just way too dangerous !

[@Neojhun]

Stop with the wacky nonsense. It's just a fact most modern BEVs are safer than their ICE equivalent due to a whole bunch of packaging advantages like massive crumple zones. Battery fires are way more rare than engine fire per 100K units. Richard Hammond with broken leg could crawly away from a flaming battery. Not even Usain Bolt can out run a Gasoline Fireball. You clearly hate children because you rather feed them with lies and make their lives worse.

[@sproject6962]

Idiot mindset

[@mikeypc3592]

Complete and utter rubbish. Here in the UK, we've had electric doubledecker buses in our county for the last 4 years. No problems whatsoever. No fires, very smooth and quiet to ride on, more acceleration than a diesel and don't struggle with hills. And these buses to hundreds of miles a day, a lot more than a school bus.

[@NaenaeGaming]

Don’t be stupid.

[@Iamthedeeeeee]

My neighborhood has been using electric school buses while your neighbors using runaway diesel engines. No noise or emissions. Hater gonna hate

[@danikmcintyre2068]

those busses are no good, otherwhise lion would still be in buisiness

[@deanknowles1631]

Already out of business