Lionel Shriver: Why can't Donald Trump get a fair trial? | SpectatorTV

Donald Trump was ordered by a Manhattan jury to pay E. Jean Carroll $83.3 million for defamation. Carroll said Trump ruined her reputation by denying he raped her. But was Trump treated more harshly than he should've been? Lionel Shriver speaks to Freddy Gray.
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[@jae2686]

Apparently this woman has made several unsuccessful accusations over the years, against her dentist, her daughter’s boyfriend and others. “Eccentric” doesn’t cover it.

[@coolgranddad5430]

You'd think since Amber Heard blew up "believe all women" that this nonsense would stop. Guess the feminist lobbies have much more power than I thought they'd still have. Clearly if you're the "wrong guy" as Trump is the "believe all women" still stands. I have a dear doctor friend of mine who practiced for 32 years, a woman from his native country and that's why she came to him as they could speak in their native tongue, falsely accused him of sexual assault. Make a long story short, he was convicted in the "he said, she said" body of evidence, then he was sentenced to 10 years. A couple of months into his sentence his scumbag lying accuser's BFF came forward to the Crown Attorney's Office with texts and emails from the lying accuser stating how she was going to ruin him as he refused HER advances. He was a faithful husband at the time. 3 months after being sentenced a judge had read the new evidence, parties were brought into his courtroom, the truth was plain for all to see. Judge see aside his conviction. One must remember, this is NOT a pardon, they're almost impossible to come by in Canada on sexual assault issues (I've been told the feminist lobby has made it this way). His Regulatory Body revoked his medical license, once convicted he was stripped of his pension (that to me is so wrong). He's now practicing again in his native country as Canada would not acknowledge his innocence and reinstate his license. What happened to the lying scumbag of an accuser? NOTHING! I have 2 other friends in their 60s survive similar false accusations, both won in court, but lost their careers and ended up broke paying to defend themselves. What happened to their false accusers? NOTHING! So, when I had a woman friend the other day just laid into Trump on this Carroll woman, I informed her all is not as it may seem. She didn't like that, but tough beans! I saw this coming years back, ALL close female executives of mine who I regularly deal with in any one of my companies are ALL close female relatives, NO exceptions. Can't take the risk otherwise, I'm fortunate my close women relatives are very capable and talented. When I have to meet with a company rep who's a woman, I have one of my daughters join us in my office and as soon as the rep walks into my office I point out the cameras above that record audio and video EVERYTHING that is said and happens in our meeting. Even with the cameras, without one of my girls or one time had my niece sit in there's no way I'll meet alone with a woman. RISKS ARE TOO HIGH IN TODAY'S WORLD. This does hurt women, chances for advancement at my companies is very limited for a non-close female relative. Ladies, you wanted and pushed for #MeToo, you've got it. Sad part is if we're being direct and honest about it. Every woman is safe with me, I'm a good guy, the true rapists/sexual assault sickos won't care what the law says, they'll carry on. Thus, women are in greater risk now than before. Truly sad.

[@DIANNANTEXAS]

She just lies for the democrats

[@Joeyjojoshabbadoo]

She's obviously very effed-up. And not in a good way. All you gotta do is read 'We should talk about Kevin', and that should tell you everything you need to know. Which I just read, and was blown away, not because it was such awesome prose, but because I didn't think a woman could be so nakedly perverse about just what a man-hating, and mainly just mind-bendingly self-absorbed.... shrew, let's call her, to actually write a book like that. Where the mother and protagonist in this narrative, Ie her, basically kills her own child, her son, a boy, by denying him the love and affection she is clearly destitute of, which destroys him... and then has her son's character in his emotionally stunted agony, murder his father and younger sister, her fictional husband and daughter, while also shooting up a bunch of his classmates with a bow and arrows. And she was the hero.... But maybe I should admire her for writing such an unblushingly ghastly story. She very clearly tapped her own life, like writers do, in this case a deeply tortured inner life as a loveless, deliberately childless woman, who, thank god never became a mother herself. And while previously a lifelong liberal Democrat, obviously, she now stumps for Trump. Because this is what does it for her now. Because it suits her. Or maybe she's just a closeted lesbian. Good thing I'm fully anti-woke already, because this lady could easily turn me back to the other side. In any case, she is pretty repulsive.

[@charlesargo908]

He was not found guilty of rape. Please read the verdict 😮

[@tommcfadden5232]

It was a civil case and he was found to be liable.

[@charlesargo908]

@@tommcfadden5232 the jury found him not guilty of rape. Please read the verdict of the first trial

[@patsavage1245]

@@charlesargo908 He was found guilty of "Sexual abuse" because he penetrated the victim with his fingers, not his penis. That's surely a petty misdemeanor eh? FFS. Let's not split hairs.

[@davidbrear8642]

@@charlesargo908 In reality, the jury refused to find Trump liable for rape, because the victim of his sexual assault said she had frozen and could not be 100% sure which part of Trump's body penetrated her. However, after the first trial and Trump's loud objections to Ms. Carroll's public statements in which she used the word 'rape,' the Judge explained that, the sexual assault that the jury found him liable for committing, is defined as rape under NY law.

[@charlesargo908]

@@tommcfadden5232 different standards of guilt in a civil trial A low bar

[@drstrangelove4998]

He must be the most persecuted president. That latest judgement and damages is beyond reason, there’s zero evidence for start. Let’s hope this absurd judgement is overturned. Meanwhile the crime family carries on as normal.

[@marchess286]

According to this interview Carroll apparently told some version of the incident to friends soon after it occurred. I don't know what she told them. But it is some sort of evidence.

[@Dude0000]

@@marchess286 hearsay is not evidence. They could come in to say what she told them, but if they’re found to have lied, they’re then liable.

[@marchess286]

@@Dude0000 - it's admissible to help show whether, at a time close to the alleged incident, she believed something like that occured and she was distraut. Of course someone who knowingly presents false testimony is liable. It's called perjury. The name of her friend who testified is, Lisa Birnbach.

[@Sanctified57]

@@marchess286”something like that occurred “? Ah so he must be guilty then 😂

[@marchess286]

@@Sanctified57 - Where did I write, "he must be guilty" or anything like that?

[@adrianbrown1492]

It would not have stood up in a criminal court where you need "some" evidence of criminal acts.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

The US needs Trump. We (in the UK) have the choice of the Establishment slow road to woke hell or the Establishment fast road to woke hell.

[@DS_P8]

He was in office for 4 years and he did what about your "woke" fantasies? Dude couldn't even build a wall inside his own country and yet you pretend he's superman who's going to save the world for your kind. Donald Trump is an impotent liar, rapist, traitor.

[@BiggusDiggusable]

That's the most idiotic thing I've read today. Well done.

[@CFav7]

If you think the US needs Trump, it's because YOU need a lobotomy.

[@davidjuliesmiththomas7983]

Yeah, I lived in UK from 2017-2020 (now back in Oz). Your assessment is correct.

[@davidbrear8642]

The UK has had Donald Trump, in the form of a paid celebrity-promoter of a 'commercial' cult/pyramid scheme known as 'ACN.'

[@followyourbliss973]

It's interesting how hesitant they are in this interview.

[@reaper-ce1jx]

Well obviously. You have to be careful. Lefty thought and cens0rship police will use what you say against you to cancel you

[@followyourbliss973]

It's really too bad not liking Trump as a person clouds her perception of him as President ...because if you really look at his presidency, he performed incredibly well for 3 years until covid. Trump derangement syndrome is out of control!

[@DuckDodgers69]

Reality....is ....a .....thing🤡💩🦨

[@neilrobson3064]

Until he took all those classified documents back to Mar A Lago and tried to pass it off as “his stuff”. Listen to yourself……

[@patsavage1245]

Until he drank the bleach?

[@BiggusDiggusable]

Get a grip of yourself.

[@PhthaloJohnson]

He ruined the economy and took the rights of Americans. Incredible performance by Donald Trump no doubt.

[@neilmurdoch9789]

So clear a set up job as you could possible muster..

[@carollastelic3051]

Conway wants to embarrass his former wife He’s ego was hurt.

[@etch-a-sketch]

No. He is appalled by Trump‘s behavior. Conway respects his wife. I have heard him say as much in recent interviews.

[@prasadrao2895]

Ms. Shriver's argument in support for Trump pretty much is low mark I can bear.

[@maryloureeve9938]

Why don’t you state the dates and more info on the accusations on Trump. That would we a more honest reporting.

[@hemlyns9916]

Lionel's claim about absence of impartial jurors is no less valid in the case of any famous person.

[@Hipstove]

Was Brexit decided by the court?

[@martinobrien7110]

Guilty As Hell ? Multiple Fraudster .

[@derekreed6798]

I was with you until you started differentiating between Republican and Democrat...they are both the same party.

[@RPSartre01]

That's right, he has not been treated fairly. In fact, he's been treated very favorably so far. Hopefully that is about to end, and the courts will start to treat him fairly. Like the rest of us.

[@rollovaughan]

Ahh. You’re a Biden BOT. Ok.

[@toraguchitoraguchi9154]

I will never view Americans the same again - there is not an ounce of the sense of fair play or moral fibre in Americans for the way they are trying to destroy Trump just because they don't like him.

[@GayleAllen-RINO]

Remember J6th and 11,780 FAKE VOTES... 💙💙💙 RIDIN WITH BIDEN 2024

[@aclark903]

When were you last in court Mr ‘Sartre’ ? L’enfer c’est les autres, n’est pas?

[@Reb-0811]

Nonsense. Each of the charges against him are huge stretches of any reasonable interpretation of the relevant laws and the Constitution. It's also no accident that the cases, with the exception of Florida, were brought in overwhelmingly Democrat jurisdictions by prosecutors/district attorneys who ran their political campaigns on "getting Trump." Even in Florida, Jack Smith went to a New York jury to get his indictment. Although I don't know you, I do doubt you will ever face such a coordinated legal attack. If these tenuous cases are the best they could come up with as proof of Trump's supposed overwhelming perfidy, he must the be cleanest NY businessman and U.S. President of the 20th and 21st century.

[@user-cm8fc3rv8h]

all you pepoles trying to accuse this men how is this pepolews after him dont you youwant a good president and goods country and get rich you atre all criminal after a good men

[@bigbong620]

Soon to be owned by the UAE. 🤣🤣🤣

[@ldm3027]

why cant shriver shut up?

[@user-cm8fc3rv8h]

so ifg you can or you cant what the freek are you doing to this men you are reapeing him in public

[@wendellcoleman1137]

The bulk of the damages he's going to have to pay (your "weak" whining defense not withstanding) came from his continued defamation of her, not the original conviction. His schizophrenic "defense" consisted of name calling, unsubstantiated and often contradictory claims, and misapplied legal precepts. But regardless, he's still going to have to pay up! Then there's the additional financial damages coming from the two "unfair" New York cases, plus the "unfair" NY criminal case involving jail time, that you haven't addressed yet.

[@alexbowman7582]

You do know there's not a shred of evidence apart from her accusation, no date in case Trump had an alibi, the law was changed specifically to bring this case, Carroll lying about having Trump DNA on a dress not even made before 1994 and her many positive Tweets about the Apprentice were withheld from evidence by the judge? The case is pathetic. It's proof Trump is being attacked with lawfare.

[@jameskelley-w8h]

if its important to point out its a civil case why isn't it important to point out that its because the statute of limitations ran out, otherwise hed be a convicted sex offender

[@PhthaloJohnson]

You wont be convicted as a sex offender either. Civil courts can't do that. I think Trump raping her was pretty bullshit but Trump defaming her, that happened for everyone to see.

[@2paulcoyle]

Wrong. There is no evidence. Even if there was no time limit, she couldn't remember within 3 years of the supposed event. She couldn't remember the month, the season the day. She did remember a expensive stylish suit she was wearing. Only it was made by the designer years after the years. She's also said she was raped since High School. Basically once a year by someone.

[@neilrobson3064]

He can get a fair trial - his supporters just can’t face that fact…..

[@Karsonn3333-ef1cc]

This wasn't the rape trial, that is over. He certainly did defame her, and incited his unhinged "fans" to stalk her. He then disrupted the trial during closing arguments, inciting the Jury to look on him badly.

[@dan77773]

Clown court.

[@Sanctified57]

Utter nonsense. The only ones unhinged are the hateful democrats and the politically motivated prosecutor, judge and jury. Trump was the one who has been defamed by the lying despicable woman accuser. She is milking her ten minutes of fame and will not see a penny of the money awarded to her

[@simondymond8479]

He cannot he held responsible for his 'fans' any more than the democrats can he held responsible for extremists like antifa. You might say that comments he makes about these ongoing kangaroo court cases, expressing his frustration, might cause others to take up his cause and be very angry on his behalf. That is probably true and it clearly works. But what the individual does with that is not his responsibility.

[@Karsonn3333-ef1cc]

This was a Defamation Trial, and he was found against by a jury of American citizens. He can appeal, but he indeed did legally "defame" her--there are of videos of him doing that-- He can appeal. It is a civil case for damages, not a criminal case. @@simondymond8479

[@reaper-ce1jx]

If I was trump and someone convicted me on false charges, defamation would be the least of the woman's problem. Few of that 83 mil is going in the dark web for particular reasons if you catch my drift. Clown court. You can't even defend yourself

[@MrBillGarland]

😊👍🇬🇧

[@hemlyns9916]

Maybe Lionel hasn;t noticed, but Trump is arguing that he is above the law.

[@DIANNANTEXAS]

Only democrats are above the law•••

[@patsavage1245]

"We can't prove or disprove"?. It has been proven.FFS.

[@patsavage1245]

It is no longer alleged. It has been proven, unanimously, by a jury of his peers.

[@FiveLiver]

The World is waiting for Trump.

[@jasminealixandranorth]

Does Lionel Shriver have alzeimers? She has so much difficulty getting the words out. Constantly stumbling. Exhausting listening to her.

[@2935441]

Most American "intellectuals" talk this way. It's a hangover from college days when you wanted to sound thoughtful.

[@simondymond8479]

She is just thinking carefully as she goes.

[@fbinformant]

Bidenism

[@KopperNeoman]

If "all men are created equal", all inequality is caused by discrimination. You cannot be equal under the law unless you acknowledge that God created everyone differently.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

True. Nature is overtly anti equal.

[@brianburgess3231]

in his (God, not Trump)'s image? .. fallacy after fallacy you continue to follow

[@DieFlabbergast]

Equal does not mean "the same": it means "are afforded equal rights." All men are equal in the sight of God (if you are a believer) or equal under the Law if you are of the secular persuasion.

[@DIANNANTEXAS]

Equal under the law ••• if you are a democrat

[@gennadius2638]

The trials and tribulations of elderly Donald