Lionel Union Pacific 4-12-2

[@Ericstrains]

Motor City Express, yes.

[@Ericstrains]

Thanks. Glad you caught the blooper. Most people don't ever watch the very end of the videos. :)

[@Ericstrains]

Thanks! Yeah, I disabled ratings because I'm tired of whoever that jerk is who goes around giving thumbs downs for fun.

[@laurenssmith9534]

CODY GRUHLKE the third cylinder on this engine is larger than the outside ones so it is a low pressure cylinder that uses exhaust steam from the other cylinders this was supposed to improve efficiency it is quite common on Uk locomotives.

[@gunrunner7224]

Can you do a heavy haul or passenger speed with the big mallets? As many cars as you dare and as safe as possible? Reason being is im running ho scale and my 2 biggest locomotives are a 4-8-4 northern and a 4-6-6-4 challenger

[@Noah_Ciquera]

I know, they are jerks

[@Noah_Ciquera]

@Mr. Big Rick Reloaded Maybe?

[@nathanielcruz6675]

The 4-12-2 is the only type of wheel arrangement on a steam engine and is operated only by the Union Pacific. 88 were built from 1926 - 1930 by ALCO for the UP. These locomotives were used to increase the speed of freight trains in flat country and were fairly successful, but were maintenance nightmares. Largely because of their use of an inside the 3rd cylinder driving the cranked 2nd driving axle between the frames. Only 1 example has survived into preservation, Union Pacific #9000 is the Prototype of the class. It's preserved at the Rail Giants Train Museum in Pomona, California. It received a new boiler paint job between 2006 & 2007. Tourists can go inside the cab where they can blow #9000’s U.P. star brass 5 chime steam whistle. Now air compressed.

[@brok3nD1am0nd45]

UP 9000 looks great in a gray hound paintscheme

[@alexthesouthernpacificmt4879]

2 words . I agree

[@Noah_Ciquera]

I agree, it is nice!

[@trainlandia697]

One of my favorite Union Pacific locomotives!

[@kyleking284]

This engine is VERY IMPRESSIVE!! one of my favorites! LOVE the paint scheme!!

[@heros88]

Thanx sir, seems like he talk about the newest #9000 but we never know what people can do with tracks or whatever on their layout, just fun to have an honest opinion from an hall of famer like you sir Siegel who shows lot of things on their own layout. Thanx again sir.

[@JDStucks]

Beautiful engine Eric. I loved the shot of it going over the bridge. Have fun with that loco and keep the reviews and updates coming. They are so much fun to watch!

[@byates59]

Awesome review as always Eric!!! Man I really love the looks of this engine, the boiler has such a strong muscular shape to it. I also like how far back the whistle is on the boiler allowing lots of separation between it and the main stack up front. This one is definitely on my wish list for sure! Thanks for the awesome vid my friend and have a great one!

[@SplicesAndCelluloid]

12:45 Oooooh look at that overhang!

[@Ericstrains]

Actually, that overhand is very prototypical. It makes the whole thing look more real. :-)

[@deleteyoukai3041]

+ericstrains surprised to see the 12 drive wheels is it flexible

[@andredizon5805]

Little Gamer no the other drive wheels don't have Flanges so the Engine can handle tight curves

[@Victor-xw3eo]

The first thing i thought of was steam loco drifting

[@JerryDoesThings_1604]

Victor3 XD

[@shnimmuc]

I am glad to see that Lionel got the 3 chuff sounds down. I happen to have the latest MTH 9000 and the chuffing is also correct and it is my favorite feature. I agree with you, it is your railroad and if you want you locomotives in pink, it is your business. Thanks for the great review including the last take. Ha Ha. Looking forward to your review of your new European locomotive.

[@fafnir242]

I don't know how I feel about the two-tone gray... Just seeing a 4-12-2 in the passenger scheme seems weird to me... Lol.

[@jacobsquartzminecart7632]

This model: Is gray Me with a can of spray paint and frog tape: are you challenging me

[@meredithleach4597]

I love this cool steam train! I am thinking about getting one for Christmas!

[@theark-la-missrailfan]

Most beautiful Lionel Whistle in my opinion!

[@mpickering54321]

Amazing review. Love the new camera shots and the bloopers at the end, please keep it up!

[@parkerpresley5800]

I feel old seeing that this was published 8 years ago.

[@professional_fra_violator]

Same here

[@ATSF1927]

We use to call the cylinders "steam chest" smoke stack "chimney". you can see the sand lines from the sand dome. I remember these old Alcos, but there very wasn't many of them due to diesel locomotive change over. Great looking locomotive and a wonderful layout :-)

[@alexlife470]

No. 9000 is my favorite Union Pacific Steam Locomotive, because no. 9000 is the soal surviver of her class

[@tsgzfeisty6377]

13:04 That's an amazing angle!

[@bradstrains]

Great review Eric. Thanks for adding the drive motor stats to your "under the hood" part of the review and great running secession. The engine has great pulling power for only 2 traction tires. And nice demo of the none locking gearbox on this locomotive. thumbs up! (because you disabled ratings)

[@pendremacherald6758]

Fun fact: The 9000s used Sir Nigel Gresley’s conjugated valve gear on their third cylinder. This is the same valve gear Greeley used on his engines with three cylinders.

[@EngineerDaylight]

Yeah, then 9000 looks really weird in Greyhound paint, that's probably why Union Pacific never painted their 9000 Locos in Greyhound

[@aocruiser]

Great video Eric! I like the chuffing on this steamer a lot and it looked very nice on that bridge! Keep the videos coming!

[@jakecollins3669]

UP #9000 is another good edition to my O scale collection because I saw it in the 2012 signature edition Lionel catalog with its current Greyhound livery. FEF-3 #844 is also currently painted in this livery, but it's faster and better than #9000.

[@MthRailFanatic]

Anthor great review Eric! I'm glad you did run the 4-12-2 with th UP coachs. They look really nice with it. :)

[@MrGleeon]

Can you get a Pennsylvania Baldwin Centipede? MTH makes them and I have one, it's so much fun but the only problem is that my controller isn't powerful enough to allow it to carry passenger cars.

[@726berkshire]

If you ask me, I'm very happy Lionel rereleased this awesome engine. Just a quick question. Have you done a similarity between the tender on this engine and the tender on the 261? Anyways, great review. :)

[@brok3nD1am0nd45]

Beautiful... this paint scheme would look great on UP 9000 in the railgiants train museum

[@Ericstrains]

If you're talking about the Lionmaster T1. I don't think that's a full scale model. It's scaled down so that it can take O-31 curves. I don't normally buy semi-scale stuff, but if they ever do a full scale T1 I will certainly pick one up! Thanks!

[@PedrotheOscalecollector]

That engine is nice Eric it look different with the greyhound paint scem

[@LePenguin]

I feel like if the UP does get the time to, they should restore 9000

[@reiheractual]

H F McBain it's not a good idea. The 9000 Class locomotives are a pain to work on and with the 4-12-2 wheel arrangement, she can only go around really, really broad curves. So she could only operate in a certain area. Yeah it would be cool if she did run but it's too much of a hassle

[@Metal9040]

ahatbears They were made to run on the flat prairies

[@disneylandguy10]

Are you going to get the Motor City Express or the Canadian Nation GP9 Piggyback Set?

[@familytab8679]

My favorite part is the front and the bell and whistle I love seeing those tanks on the front

[@zorantrivic4868]

This is my favorite up loco

[@Ericstrains]

I haven't had any issues at all. They may be talking about the older release of the 4-12-2, so there's that to consider.

[@lionel0824]

Wow, that engine is a monster! Trevor

[@JunePN]

Where can I buy this steam engine?

[@austrobb]

You know Eric if you want some new color to your layout you should try to get yourself a Pennsylvania T1 Duplex 4-4-4-4. I have it and it's a great engine and sounds great. Good detail to it and nice paint and you can't see the hole for the whistle steam affect so it really does look like it's coming out of the brass whistle.Great video by the way! Nice engine like the color.

[@staceyjohnson2929]

Awesome. Again It's Logan I'm just using mom's to comment you. I am your #1 fan. I've watched you since the L-4 mohawk review. Again thanks for reviewing these steam locomotives. :)

[@arifakyuz7673]

What the hell?! Damn that’s a lot of wheels!

[@jameswiley-benes5652]

I love the whistle steam!

[@726berkshire]

In case if they can't do it, what about getting the MTH 4-6-0 Camelback? That would be a standout engine in your collection.

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

If I understand correctly, 4 of the 12 drive wheels have flanges?

[@682charlie]

Great engine! Nice blooper at the end!

[@vijayalakshmipandian6169]

The Whistle is Sweet!

[@MsSusieHomemaker]

You should get the New York Central 9951 Frieght set. I have and it is amazing!

[@PghTrainFanatic]

Nice review and new toy!

[@adamswindell1442]

Are you thinking of purchasing the Vision Line 3000? I seen the running session and that behemoth is a beast.

[@trackspike64]

very nice does the whistle smoke affect use alot of fluid and how much was the engine 1300 or more

[@customclone2000]

hey Eric my birthday is coming up and i'm having a hard time disiding between the lionel PRR j1a 2-10-4 or the lionel UP challenger.thanks

[@garyjust.johnson1436]

Great video!

[@OwlEye2010]

The only real issue I see with this model is the whistle sound effect. The whistles on the 9000s never sounded like that. Other than that, Lionel did pretty well with this rendition.

[@SwindellSteamWorks]

Just a small fun fact. Though the power of these savage monsters were phenomenal, they didn't last that long because maintaining the 3rd cylinder was a nightmare. I think you might know what the maintenance men had to do. If you don't here it is. They had to remove the boiler from the wheels and then separate the wheels from the cylinders. Then they would do the work as needed then put it all back together.

[@KandiKlover]

This is nothing compared to the 2-8-8-8-2 and 2-8-8-8-4 Triplex locomotives.

[@benjaminokon-uribe9218]

That thing is huge!

[@BDN355]

i personally love this locomotive

[@ChrisNIN64]

are you ever gonna get a big boy if they make a new one?

[@catlover2368]

Do you have a big boy engine if so I would love to see a challenger and a big boy side by side

[@king-xerxus7040]

Missing the brake ‘squeal noice’ when coming to a stop.

[@disneylandguy10]

Cool! I was hoping to get it for Christmas!

[@oologahnorthernrailroad8873]

I can agree the 9000s were huge but they can't over take a Big Boy

[@heros88]

Sir Siegel, could you tell us how work the 6 big wheels each side of this awesome engine on O-72 track? Is it ok on your layout in your opinion? I read people said these 12 big wheels have some issues on O-72 track. In the same time, I use the magnificent Atlas track like yours, maybe these people use other tracks. Just to be sure before investing on this epic engine. Thanx!

[@carlmatthews956]

nice video i love the 4-12-2 i think its great

[@TheSantaFeGuy]

I've seen a picture of a Russian steam engine with a 4-14-2 wheel arrangement. it didn't last long though

[@That_One_Guy_In_A_Band]

The Santa Fe Guy actually, it was a 4-14-4. Class AA20, if I remember correctly. It was so heavy it broke the track, so they had to scrap it. Such a shame, it was an attractive locomotive. Nothing quite like a Soviet steam locomotive, in my opinion.

[@lukep4339]

“Chatter” “steamers” funny 😆 love the channel

[@holtzman1378]

hey eric what is the biggest train you have done or is this it

[@timfron19]

Like watching your videos alot Eric.

[@rrxing]

Oh god that’s huge and so much wheels xd

[@princeryanbalang268]

9000 she absolutely a monster!

[@williamschlenger1518]

Great review,great engine.Ignore negative comments😎

[@drewstrains3868]

Beautiful engine

[@DellComputer72]

at the end of the run..what train is in the tunnel with the 4-12-2?

[@awakening917]

The 8500 horsepower gas turbine is a legend out of every engine it's a humongous behemoth I think that's a reason it has 8500 horsepower.

[@mikeytrains1]

WinteredDiamond - - YT NOPE! It's just the jet engine.

[@PlanetMarkOfficial]

Do you invest a lot of money in smoke fluid?

[@Ace_6.7]

would you rather have the centipede or a santa fe 3000?

[@Ericstrains]

The Challenger is a 4-6-6-4, the big boy is a larger 4-8-8-4.

[@adamswindell1442]

You should do a runby of the NYC Mohawk and the NYC Hudson.

[@terencestark8044]

I sometimes wonder why they didn't put a double chimney smoke stack on the 4-12-2s.

[@LegoKing4561]

You should do a reveiw of the Union Pacific 844 steam engine

[@Ericstrains]

I don't remember. I think it was a Lionel CSX SD40-2, but I'm not certain.

[@Ericstrains]

Sure, when they make a scale GG1 again I'll get one.

[@bernie604]

can you mix up the tenders with that same type of coupler tender/engine?

[@TheCardboardJedi]

i love the Grayhounds

[@scrambler250r]

Wonder why they don't just use scale couplers?

[@726berkshire]

In some cases, that would be true considering they have different styled vanderbilt tenders.

[@mrpowerwagon123]

What type of whistle is that

[@rlriehn85]

Where did you get your passenger cars?

[@sandburgjake]

great blooper

[@TransGalGaming]

hey Eric, i just noticed all the smoke you use in the reviews, doe it dissipate quickly?, i only ask since i found some really old stuff that i was using on my HO layout the other night...and it really smoked up my basement and i had to open up the windows

[@neptunian1736]

One thing I’ve wondered, what happened to the swinging bell feature, ps are you ever gonna get the Lionel 3000?

[@animal16365]

at least they got the 3 cylinder sound right

[@andrewtheberkshireengine4385]

This train is called "union pacific 9000" this engine has a nasty accident back In time of the big boys, FEF, and challengers the union pacific 9000 got a problem on his boiler and he's started to explode but now this engine is survived in boiler explosion by restoring him

[@FutureRailProductions]

how do u do that?

[@RiflemanMoore]

I personally think the 3 beat exhaust sound effect is a bit off, it would have been better to have a group of 6 beats before the small pause. 2 cylinder engines have a 4 stroke cycle and 3 cylinders a 6 stroke because both forwards and backwards strokes of the piston are powered so you get 4 'chuffs' from a 2 cylinder and 6 'chuffs' in a 3 cylinder locomotive for every wheel revolution. A relatively small detail but I thought it could have sounded better.

[@RiflemanMoore]

***** Even with conjugated motion and the resultant off-beat sound it's still a 6 stroke cycle per revolution of the wheel before the sequence of 'chuffs' is repeated, off-beat as they may be.

[@donaldnewton1415]

when are manufactures going to stop showing green classiification when sn is running extra/ you cannot run a second section of aextra train din newton retired up conductor

[@ВалерийФилиппов-д8о]

Very good video.

[@lionelkid456]

Amazing! you should get the UP FEF3.

[@mikeytrains1]

Greyhound is more attractive anyways.

[@gopi704]

Hi Eric the whistle blowing should be reduced in fact on all videos.. we could not listen that 123 chugung more clearly..

[@rebelyank6361]

I noticed that too. Between the whistle, bell and chatter there wasn't much engine sound to be heard.

[@LEGO10111999]

Very nice.

[@awakening917]

I recommend O-81 Eric to suit its size