LIRIK NFT "Scam" ,Trainwrecks Banned From Apex Event, Valkyrae Talks RFLCT - Twitch Drama/News

[@shades2all]

EA can ban whoever as long as it’s there game/sponsorship. It is just also hypocritical. Good to hear reflect is being taken off shelves at least.

[@woiken3957]

@@WarAuthority SquadW bunch of bozos

[@KamiKazeKayaK]

Their*

[@stevcass1822]

Exactly , it’s their game they can ban whenever they want.

[@diokosa7001]

I know they literally add loot boxes in their games and complain about gambling XD.

[@roshill2010]

@@WarAuthority He's got that FU gambling money that's why he is responding like that lol. I would be grateful for that opportunity and respond back carefully so the doors don't close forever.

[@Cblla]

its not one or the other Tom, its both. EA is hypocritical but they can still ban someone for whatever reasons they desire from their tourney

[@theturtle8869]

I agree

[@Demonsouls1993]

if they want to ban him for a good reason so be it but if they are banning him cuz of his gambling streams then EA can suck a fat one

[@trevtechs]

true

[@ImminDragon]

As long as their reasons aren't some form of illegal discrimination, I completely agree.

[@pitching]

@@Demonsouls1993 they did ban him for a good reason.. He has DONE shady gambling before like stevenwilldoit and many others

[@aliendude99]

Virgin NFT buyer vs. Chad screenshotter.

[@woiken3957]

Yoink my NFT now

[@firesong7825]

@@woiken3957 kinky

[@Craig_B]

The one time I actually agree with Destiny lol Have to agree anyone promoting NFT's as something useful are snake-oil salesmen, they aren't useful and the only reason they are worth money is because popular people are TELLING you its worth it

[@snakeEyedPirate]

Exactly, and if people are willing to pay money for something useless like that then gimme your munnies! If you can afford it that is XD

[@feykro222]

FaZe Clan approves

[@xXNP4CNuclearXx]

Destiny almost always right tho PepeLaugh.

[@lordtomosdecree]

Just like cypto, if no one gives a shit about it, it ain't worth shit

[@MultipleUselessness]

Think you're misunderstanding the value that NFTs can provide. Digital tokens are the future for most assets. Take a look at a house deed or a stock. At the moment both are paper assets, it's only natural that these things will transition to digital token assets in the future to provide more liquidity (especially in the case of stocks) for the market. NFT art is a scam though, just like all art.

[@oOoJeeoOo]

At this point NFT are old news scam. People talking about getting early when it's very late and the game is already over.

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

google images search bar: "im here to serve and give all images you need for free" still dont get whole appeal of nft though as not my vibe and wouldn't pay to own image online myself.

[@arch1107]

im not sure if is late in the game or not, because the thing is still going, so, perhaps it has a future, but people do think the thing is weird, might fall apart and could be the worst investment ever

[@cboyslim5490]

if people are talking about it, it's already too late

[@SimonWakefieldUK]

@@ravenspurplebeats5412 because its more than just owning an image. They are items that are limited in number that you have a way of confirming how many exist and and come with an inbuilt method to both confirming your ownership of them and confirming the legitimacy. Take Pokemon cards as an example, each series of these only a certain number of cards are produced, some cards have less of them produced than others thus making them worth more to collectors. The problem is you often don't know how many of a card you own was actually produced and you can't confirm you are the rightful owner of it. And with so many fakes in existence, some that are pretty convincing knowing what you have bought is real can be tough. And many come with much more than just the digital art, some can be redeemed for physical items, others give you access to other things (For example Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis have a series of NFT's that get you access to an Adult Cartoon called Stoner Cats that has people like Chris Rock, Jane Fona and Seth Mcfarlane involved it) while others your digital art can then be used in games (much like how your pokemon cards can be). And there are also systems in the works at at least one tech firm that I know of where you buy a central hub in the way you buy a hub for Phillip hue lights which can then be linked to all your NFT wallets and then smart displays in a variety of designs ranging from looking like standard picture frames all the way to digital wallpaper where on the hub you can create custom layouts and assign one or multiple NFT's to each frame and you can then switch the NFT's out at a click of a button. This deals with one of the big complaints of NFT's in that they are just digital images on your phone, it will instead allow them to be displayed just like any physical artwork or collectable and as some NFT's can include motion that then allows you to display something that you can't have via traditional artwork. And they have ideas of extended it to 3D items so rather than buying say a physical collectable figure you could buy a NFT one which you could display like an actual one but unlike with a lot of collectors of things like Funko pops where they reach a point where they can't display them all but switching figures in and out of display could be a hassle it would be a click of a few buttons to freshen up the display. So all in all yes some of these fairly early ones will end up being pretty worthless (but hey if you are buying not just for potential future value gains but also because you like the artwork does that really matter?) its still a new space with some interesting developments happening and more happening every day so its certainly not something to just dismiss

[@ravenspurplebeats5412]

@@SimonWakefieldUK each to thier own, as dont really care for nft system myself and dont think i ever will but guessing wont be long till other "famous people" promote the hell out of these and its possibly scam/cash cow at some point. Though if you like these im not stopping you i just prefer to be able to touch/hold said item as pick pokemon cards anyday over nft also.

[@bloodlusthunter382]

These streamers/scammers and their god complex never ceases to amaze me 🤣

[@Cblla]

It's so common I can't even tell if u are talking about Trainwrecks or Valkyrae

[@alphapt9370]

@@Cblla I thought it was about Lirik. But point stands true. Can be about a lot of them.

[@rem9750]

@@Cblla Valkyrae??? Bruh a company took advantage of her. It happens and has happened to many streamers and youtubers

[@kingjaffa618]

@@rem9750 companies definitely take advantage but this was insane, there were so many warnings signs it was almost unbelievable that someone can be that naive after spending like a year on the project, I couldn't believe it. It wasn't like a clueless celebrity being asked to advertise something, a big deal was made about her being part of the project

[@bloodlusthunter382]

@@Cblla I was talking about Lirik and Trainwrecks

[@coregoon]

1:51 - "Should EA have the right to ban Trainwrecks from their events..." Yes. "...is it completely hypocritical coming from EA?" Also yes.

[@alphapt9370]

Pretty much. And it was nick assuming it was the gambling aspect of Train that got him uninvited. For all we know, they could have went with "we dont like his face". But yeh, from a company that has been called out so many times for running online casinos within their games... it's quite hypocritical if that was the reason.

[@Smarackto]

100% the correct take here.

[@tryptic1120]

they are an independent private company so they can do w/e they want

[@ShowTimeReturns]

Lirik says lsf needs help but he thinks everyone who disagree with him are on neighbors wifi, all the money they got they think they hot shit lmfao.

[@DarchrowTheEnigma]

LSF do need help.

[@ZR-os5ry]

@@DarchrowTheEnigma So does the majority of twitch streamers

[@bubbaman12289]

@@DarchrowTheEnigma I'd say these streamers need more help....I've watched since Justin tv and the top streamers have devolved into self righteous people... I mean it's crazy to say but tyler1 is literally the only down to earth guy... Lirik talks all this shit but could literally send one message to a lsf mod and he will never be posted about again...they love lsf when it's positive but hate them when they are criticized...kinda hypocritical

[@alphapt9370]

@@bubbaman12289 Lirik talked that shit because he knows LSF is the place streamers get held accountable for their bullshit. And I sincerely doubt he could dm a lsf mod to "never be posted again". That dm would have been posted the second it got read, with the message "we cant be bought or bullied". So yeh, even if I agree that LSF sometimes goes into wild witch hunts from out of context clips, it does also provide a service when shit needs to be talked about.

[@alphapt9370]

@ShowTheCreator The idea is dismiss the opinion if you undermine the person that says it. It's an ad hominem logical fallacy. One could turn it around him and say he's not educated enough to talk about NFTs, as purchasing\making them does not make anyone an expert on the matter. Just because I buy a sweater it doesnt make me an expert on the pret-a-porter industry, as per example. But yeh, all he wants is that his 500K scam goes smoothly. Because that's what it is.

[@ronniewhitedx]

LSF: calls out when streamers do shady stuff. Streamers: how about you don't do that plz...

[@gardevoid8412]

Yeah but we all know that’s not the only thing LSF does, so let’s not pretend

[@silentferret1049]

The thing with Miz and Alisha. He called out how much they are trying to push NFTs. 300k for a sponsor kinda shows how bad the trend really is and how much a scam it is. Her trying to mock that he is rich and she is poor is just making her look stupid.

[@Tonyman078]

While her rant was most likely her trying to get onto LSF and get her face attention. I agree to an extent. Like sure he is showcasing how hard people are trying to push NFTs. But at the same time I dont feel like he needed to disclose the amount or for that matter the fact he even turned down a the deal in the first place. He did so to act like he is a virtuous person and that his viewers should praise him and in turn donate and subscribe. Which in turn makes him the money he just turned down anyways. Because as well all know these streamers (especially the biggest ones) make that much sometimes in a month. So he really was never losing out to begin with.

[@Riptonianz]

train acting llike he has deeper pockets than EA lol

[@DutchChaosGamers]

lmao

[@mirvha714]

He's slowly degenerating into nothing more than community funded gambling troglodite lol 😆

[@alphapt9370]

I mean, he doesnt, but he can afford to sponsor a bigger tournament than EA did without really making a dent on his bank roll. But EA did another impossible thing, imho. They made Train look good. Because that's what happened.

[@MrEagorath]

@@alphapt9370 They didn't tho... they banned him and he, as a business individual went and posted rants on social media... and not the kind that was a little "I find this very hard to accept" or along those lines, no.. he went on name calling bullshittery on social media.. As a business, train as good as shot himself in the foot with that stunt right there.

[@DeLeonHD]

@@MrEagorath agreed. Train looked like a child ranting cause he didn't get his cookie or whatever.

[@jmqm]

12:05 I wonder what she thought when she looked back on that. What a clown, mad at others' success/decisions. His decision makes 0 impact on her life and tries to clown him.

[@testaccount3880]

Ikr

[@fnyan3308]

Hatewatchers man 😂😂 theres no win win here, she will also clown him if he took the bag as a shameless streamer Might as well take the 300k and get shit on next time

[@mysticprophecy5395]

NFT is garbage

[@blindfire3167]

Sad thing is it's the people who are the issue buying it. This wouldn't have taken off if people weren't buying literally nothing that doesn't even have their name on it, but I've seen people put sheep medicine into their ass so I guess the stupid gene is everywhere

[@dapperino7252]

bayzed

[@isshaye]

Hey you can't say that. Garbage can be recycled into something useful that has value, unlike NFTs

[@mysticprophecy5395]

@@isshaye true that

[@tidussuperquickhits7963]

it may be garbage to you, but others see it as a treasure, for the hardcore fans collectors.

[@livelyosprey]

"NFTs are the future" Copium

[@rush4g]

And the people who buy them are the result of an overdose of copium

[@horther]

I love you man, I know it is hard, but never quit

[@GiemsaUwU]

1:45 Train looks straight from a creepy pasta story.

[@denios36]

Lirik is like this12 year old, trying with all of his might to push his adolescent world view opinion on the world. You'd expect more of a grown man, but alas...

[@laughingmonkey5522]

Ok but what would you expect from someone whos day has been the exact same since teenage years. Of course he never matured or gained any meaningful life experiences to mature. He was playing a video game the whole time.

[@denios36]

@@laughingmonkey5522 Surely a reason, but not an excuse.

[@RasenRendanX]

Thanks for the weekly recaps bro. Been a fan for years

[@RathOX]

You think shes salty?

[@thesilver3794]

Sounds like she is only in it for the money

[@dantemand3068]

Greed will always creep up. The richer you get the more money you crave. It's in our DNA. Top Streamers earning millions, wants more millions. People subbing/donating to these top streamers feed greed even faster. You help the streamers create these literal scams, and you yourself, is falling for all of it. Just stop.

[@93hothead]

Too bad some of these idiots will not stop and if you tell them that, they go all fanboy mode

[@kotoamatsukami.]

a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes

[@wumwum9357]

Right into the news! LOVE IT

[@ronniewhitedx]

EA banning somebody because of gambling is truly the Apex of irony

[@dawnggg]

If the whole RFLCT thing happened to someone other than Valk they would've been crucified Valk got off easy some people criticized her that's it, if it was anyone else they would have been punished even harder. Valk's position in the community is so highly regarded, especially after she won creator of the year, allowed her to get away really easily. So cry me a river.

[@theturtle8869]

Pretty girl privilege

[@leotheking1000]

But how is that worse than any esoteric product :x It's just a useless thing Don't rly understand why crucification would be a possible option here 😅

[@iseeyounoobs]

Except she was crucified.

[@AA-bk1oe]

What the hell do you mean? You've got major scam involved people still at the top. People were waiting to shit on her and then complain about the fact that she's a pretty female. All over the internet, when she is brought up..she's being shat on. Come on.

[@AA-bk1oe]

@@theturtle8869 Do you have the same energy for the guy who did the raffle scam, or influencers who don't pay their employees?

[@jsitzman]

Alisha getting mad that other people make more money is the cringiest thing I've seen all week...false equivalence isn't the way

[@Sadboi_Rook]

Valk laughing through "I have depression" doesn't sit right with me.

[@ironCheval]

I mean, people deal with shit differently. Especially if you're basically an entertainer for a living.

[@dima5467]

It's just a trendy, quirky label she wants.

[@butterbeef8504]

was she high why was she laughing?

[@venorant-2322]

Yeah but mental health is becoming such an "you get out of jail card" for influencers because you can't prove they're not depressed. Imo valk had some stressful days but depressed in such a short period. I don't buy it.

[@wolffe1042]

when I was dealing with despression I used laughter and humor to try and play it off, wanting to seem more "normal/natural". It does sound weird when people laugh when talking about mental health though, I understand why it doesn't sit right with people.

[@jtvmoderator]

Never laughed so much at the Twitch News as this week. Thanks to LIRIK and everyone else involved!

[@andrewosier614]

Don't care for Destiny, don't care for NFT's, don't even care for Twitch, but Destiny's being straight with his viewers on this, he makes valid points and is looking ahead, it's hard to fault him for that.

[@kezg4074]

That alisha chick was so painful to watch. She didn't even say anything useful, but just attacks miz for being successful...

[@imkojjan]

i mean who wouldnt flex you got offered 300k and declined it! its a chad move :D

[@kezg4074]

@@imkojjan exactly!

[@HowNowBrownCow69]

Alisha’s take is negative IQ. Not worth acknowledging.

[@PaisaSteve]

Alisha HELLA salty.

[@dieudonnebrou3945]

Wayyyy too salty for her health 💀

[@Greenberet.]

1:00 "pushing it?" LMAO EA practically invented a "legal" way for kids to gamble on their games, if anything train should have been a guest of honor on the event...lelelelel

[@jozokrstanovic9040]

what's that "legal" way to gamble? Asking for a friend.

[@lordlynkz]

I think it's funny, "hey kid dont touch fire it will fuckin hurt." Ok "ok, big fire is paying me, touch fire" *ow* (Why did you touch the fire I just fuckin told you its dangerous?)

[@testaccount3880]

LMAO

[@Chillymak]

So brave that Valkyrie decided to make herself a victim of mental health rather than take responsibility for her poor choices and shitting on others and there misfortunes.

[@DarchrowTheEnigma]

Alisha seems jealous of Mizkif getting a 300k sponsor deal lol I dont make 100k a year, but I also dislike the idea of mocking people who declined a scammer's offer. If he accepts, you'll attack them for accepting it. If he declines, you'll still attack them for bragging about it. Basically people will always find your faults in whatever you do, and there's nothing to please them. Sounds like an LSF frog tbh.

[@alphapt9370]

She's drama frogging. Nobody heard from her for years, and she's trying to be relevant once again. And yes, her premise is whacked. But that's the point of it.

[@DarchrowTheEnigma]

@@alphapt9370I dont even know who she was, where she's from (YT or Twitch) and suddenly lashed out to a streamer who wants to inform their community about stuffs lol

[@YasminYoruba]

Why is it so bad she gave her opinion though? Right or wrong. If people stop going with the crowd they become the enemy. If you disagree with what she is saying fine but dragging her is stupid honestly. Have a creative debate.

[@DarchrowTheEnigma]

@@YasminYoruba Never said I disagree with her. Just felt weird that she was going after Mizkif eventhough what he did was just sharing his decision to his community. She's probably into NFT or something to get this triggered out of nowhere.

[@YasminYoruba]

@@DarchrowTheEnigma he’s online and when you open yourself up people will have different opinions?

[@raulpetrascu2696]

5:15 have it be an option that a streamer can choose if bans unfollow or not, like a checkbox EZ

[@ZachBaughn87]

I liked the longer vids

[@Infileum]

Alisha puts out what 90% of the people on the net thinks lmao and the rest just spit in her face because they think she's whines. But yeah. I mean the money is peanuts for him, so why even mention it. it would be more appreciates if he simply said he declined a sponser for a lot of money because he thinks it's not the kind of content he'd like to be affiliated with because it's 1on1 scam in a fancy jacket.

[@dieudonnebrou3945]

Hoes mad

[@Rick_W_]

Nice one😄👍

[@scaryabel210]

You know, the streamer girl named Avori? She supposedly returned home from Mexico but they can't let her back because she has been quarantined

[@rplieth]

Time to update your intro song clip bro.

[@perrenfederico]

'moral consistency' debatelord getting caught not living out his values... Shocker.

[@snakeEyedPirate]

Seems consistent to me

[@user-ov8cu5ff2y]

BIG shout out to everyone in LIRIKS chat informing unfamiliar people that NFTs are indeed a scam Now don't mind me I'm off to print screen LIRIKS NFT pages and passed them off as my own cuz there's no discernible difference

[@PureXtasy]

Valkyrae should be a lesson for future streamers that get offered to do things like this. Don't jump into something you really know nothing about and sign a contract. I hardly ever saw her talk about skincare. Any skincare guru would have told you bluescreen damage is complete BS.

[@sexygorillanips7535]

That moment when you realize there's no lawsuit because they're gonna take all that inventory and probably Put it into an existing product and say it's that product.

[@richard2mitchell]

At first I thought Valkyrie situation was just complete bullshit... But I think she has actually shown that she is not just a sellout...I like that

[@Comet701]

Thanks, Tom, for the weekly reminder why I only watch small streamers 🤣

[@Con5tantine]

Completely right.

[@Elra94]

EA can kick anybody from their tournaments... no matter the reason

[@hamzaboss100]

Same thing happened with MOE i think, he didn't get invited to twitch rivals cuz of Gamba streams i believe.

[@karatekevlar]

from what i understand destiny was talking about people who buy/sell NFTs with the focus being on the "get rich quick" mentality...

[@malx16]

He is charing $50 for a 4"x4" digital item. Its a rip off. Nfts should not give that much money to the creators. Creators will release items costing insane amounts and act like its investment.

[@zeelfarshmek111]

Alisha being pissy at Miz is kinda sad.She doesn't get that Miz basically had to sell out for years to get to where he is and now that he isn't dependant on sponsor's who are shady he can let other's a chance.I get it shes a smaller streamer and wishes she had the money he has...dont we all...but thia clip just shows her bitterness for others success.

[@UnkwownGhost]

No, she's saying what everyone thinks. Miz could of simply said he recently turned down a nft sponsor that offered a ton of money.

[@PrinceArtemis]

But you dont need to brag the cost number, doing so only makes them look bad cause not everyone makes that kind of money or is rich. Theres a difference in being successful and theres gloating your successfulness

[@thenazar3230]

@@UnkwownGhost I disagree, people don't know how much is a ton of money, but people know how much is 300k. That makes it easier for people to recognise, how much he is willing to sacrifice to make his point. One of the rules of speech in business is to speak facts (saying ton can be interpreted as 10k aswell).

[@UnkwownGhost]

@@thenazar3230 when you say ton of money it means alot (figure of speech). It's another way of saying i want to keep the amount of money offered disclosed. Miz decided to decline the sponsor fully knowing the amount so it wasn't a sacrifice since he did it on his own terms.

[@Kakeo-OS]

@@UnkwownGhost yea and…hes smart he knows what hes doing and if people get offended with that fuck em People should talk more about money since that way less people get scammed

[@Green-be6ip]

I see why Alisha doesn’t even make 100k a year tbh

[@Dinjur]

Lmao I kinda respect destiny for being honest like that.

[@singleasasin]

@Streamers Reloaded KEEP BRINGING THE DRAMA/NEWS , and, don't pay attention to SCAMMERS complaining about it !!! ....

[@andrewhanshaw5646]

i think with the Ban system they should have a function in the streamer settings to either turn on or off the unfollow function

[@alphapt9370]

Yeh. Pretty much. But no streamer will ever enable it, as they like to see the follow numbers as high as possible. Or do you honestly think they mind if 20% of their follow base are bots? Knowing full well that those are the some of the numbers they present to sponsors?

[@christop3]

Lirik bro, LSF is all streamers doing, without yall it wouldn't exist. It's no different than pulling tweets from someones account, or taking clips from youtubers, etc. I hate when people shit on LSF because it's literally your own doing, you laugh at it, move on. People are gonna hate no matter what, its a principle to being a streamer. Yeah the reddit can be pretty cruel, but it can also be really helpful in ways if people actually took some of the positive things people say during moments that stuff goes down idk. LSF isn't an inherently evil place, it's no different than a YT comment section in a sense. It has good and bad to it, but it will forever coexist with streamers. I just feel like theres a certain manipulative behaviors involved when people do shit wrong but want it to be erased from history like they never did anything at all and no one should have evidence of it, which regardless if LSF exists or not, its still gonna get documented and talked about. So it's just stupid to try and fight against LSF just comes off immature. Also NFT's are entirely a scam, its definitely a way to sell rights to Art, but in the way they are sold, and talked about, they are not an investment future, or anything of the sort. It's just a way for artists to make money for their original art, if they choose to do this path, but its far from how they're being used. I encourage artists to sell their Artwork as NFT's but on the principle that its just buying the ownership of said art, I think it's a great way for people to privately distribute their hard work to people that are interested in it, but if only it was built with that principle in mind and solidified as such. Instead its a wanna-be crypto that people can buy rights to memes and other phony shit as if they'll own the property of said thing and no one else can use it without their permission (kind of like copyright) that then will be sold off to a huger fan, as an investment practice.

[@RoysGamingGarret]

Damn, all this got covered but not the Garo Shadowscale stuff that went on a couple days ago? not counting on the next episode lmao. This was all covered on Twitter just fyi

[@CherryNecessary]

Twitch not realising most sites have it where, if you get banned it takes you to the home page and you can't enter that stream anymore .... smh.

[@Ghost-zi2eo]

Why your videos are so late?

[@xxfallenprophet]

I agree with the very last 20 seconds so much

[@mattmc20]

Never heard of Alisha before, wish I had never. She seems like she would be miserable to be around.

[@Majesty1337]

girl at the end is just jealous

[@BenBarney]

Or she is speaking truth. Just because she is talking shit about your favorite streamer doesnt mean she is wrong.

[@jozokrstanovic9040]

@@BenBarney But she is wrong. What's wrong about him coming out saying he's against something and giving proof that he's against it?

[@BenBarney]

@@jozokrstanovic9040 My man just keep those things to yourself why would I need to know what he has done. Who is he catering to exactly? It might not look obvious but he is obviously just clout chasing at this point. He is pretty much saying hey look I am a nice guy for doing this. rofl.

[@jozokrstanovic9040]

@@BenBarney both him and the girl should learn some valuable life lessons

[@Majesty1337]

@@BenBarney not my favorite sreamer, but if she wants deals like that then work harder. like are we meant to feel bad for her or something. shes not a known streamer, so she should make herself known

[@Tophatt]

With apex packs being a thing... I don't think ea are in a postion to get all ethical.

[@gie5834]

Damn, real mask off moment for Lirik Was one of my fav streamers, that was hard to witness :(

[@TrexelCat]

0:11 It's called a conflict of interest. EA runs a gambling scheme in many of their games. Trainwrecks sponsors a gambling scheme that isn't EA. That would be a bad business decision to get a big streamer who in effect is employed by a different gambling system to participate in one of yours. Because they are still connected with a competitor. I don't see the problem with disallowing Trainwrecks from playing in an EA tournament. 8:08 NFTs are 100% a scam. There is no system in place to deny an NFT if the CREATOR of the thing having an NFT attached to it does not agree to SELL said item. And no, the creator attaching an NFT first doesn't work because there are bots that will grab NFTs the microsecond something even hints at being online. They can grab that shit while a video is still in the process of being uploaded. I'll bet there is some fool who is running around thinking they own the Mona Lisa, or the Eiffel Tower. Good luck trying to claim that.

[@TrexelCat]

@@FlamingBasketballClub I agree. It is hypocritical of them to ban him completely. Disallowing him, yes. Not extending an offer to him on those grounds, yes. But a straight up ban, no. But then again, this IS EA. Masters of Surprise Mechanics.

[@shadoom]

Gambling company bans gambler for gambling outside of their gambling economy

[@PaoloTrianni]

I turned down NFT sponsor of 1bn because I want to look cool. Did it work? Would I give a shit about your opinions? Streamers are drama every day really.

[@cjbael]

Why don't twitch just add an extra button to Ban + Unfollow along with the standard 'Ban' button that doesn't do an unfollow too?

[@noelh9842]

I view NFT's like collectable cards. They don't have a use but people value them. Usually though collectable cards are tied to a franchise that have sentimental value to the people collecting them. NFT's have no additional value besides the inflated assigned price by the supplier.

[@KDG1H]

Seems like Alisha is super jealous.... Why hate on another person? An ugly trait being a hater. He doesn't want the clout/hate from LSF, what does that have to do with other people's way of making money???

[@mark041]

i agreed with this 4:07 Twitch banning system if you are really like n support that streamer you can just re follow its just a click of a button, how hard can that be...

[@egghead2048]

ea are hypocrites because of the gambling, but kicking/banning trainwrecks from the event was a good choice.

[@killingerk]

I would have to agree with the EA they are allowed to choose who they allow to play if they don't like your content they are allowed to not pick you

[@burns0100]

I mean EA and Microtransaction is a little different to advertising gambling sites where they pay you money/give you money to spend and basically set it up so you win on stream so it looks like the site pays out well... Atleast with EA they legally have to tell me my odds and in some countries legally can't charge for loot packs but Train is ok to Stream no matter the age of his viewer. Some slight differences. I'd say the ban is just.

[@jozokrstanovic9040]

I mean as long as it's not gambling rather than spending money. Like if you buy an apex pack for example, you have chance at winning different stuff, but you are spending that money, you don't have a chance of getting that money+more back. The motivation against it is completely different.

[@burns0100]

@@jozokrstanovic9040 True, it's a hard comparison in general. Motive has a big role and how people see value in something like in game items.

[@jeffadamson4220]

So EA is happy to work with the NFL who is partnered with FanDuel but won't work with a guy who streams slots?

[@grandcalamity6921]

While I don't like Alisha's tone, I agree with her. Mizkif humble bragging. He could have taken the sponsor, donated the pay to charity and kinda do a Destiny, except Destiny sounds quite happy to be hypocritical and take the money. Destiny explained himself, fair play to him

[@theFirstAidKit]

NFT's as they are now, are a bit weird. But in time, when content scanning AI gets better, it will be a huge thing. I can forsee that in the future an artist can release an NFT and have a copyright AI add it to the list of banned content without ownership. So only the owner can post it online, if someone else posts it, a copyright AI will strike the service/person who posted it etc. technically cleansing it from the internet. Sure you can still copy it and have it go around, but posting an NFT without ownership will become risky and an AI can purge it from the internet within seconds.

[@Adz_Plays]

Former "streamer of the year" she should be banned. She tried scamming her community.

[@Adz_Plays]

As for twitch unbanning perma banned channels that's a disgrace. They are clearly money grabbing bu unbanning people. Twitch making themselves crumble, YT are making moves.

[@Adz_Plays]

Also Alisha moaning she doesn't make much from twitch. She was prema banned before. She's lucky twitch allowed her back. Pure jealousy and I'm not a mizkif fan either.

[@greylaw2020]

The gambling MIGHT be part of it, but judging by his general public demeanour and how he reacted, more likely he's been blacklisted for toxicity, volatility, and unpredictability. Possibly he's difficult to work with. Honestly his outburst's outcome is going to be EA going "well, we feel super validated in excluding him, today was a good day," while other companies look on and go "good call there EA you dodged a bullet. Hmm, we should blacklist him too."

[@kylewinton5951]

E "lootbox" A banned someone for gambling streams. what a time to be alive

[@-M8-]

another week of tom saying valk instead of rae

[@higgs9062]

Where did Miz get that shirt? I need it 😂

[@VimeleosZen]

Alisha's response was petty coz it's like she wants him to accept the sponsorship instead?? Like the phrase "people would kill to get what you have". When turning it down was the best choice anyway. At least he said why he did it.

[@DeLeonHD]

Of course it's petty. But I agree with her. Why the need to brag about it? He could have taken it and do something with the money. He has helped other streamers before, he could have done it again with that money idk.

[@alphapt9370]

Here's why some streamers hate LSF. They hold them accountable to their bullshit. And when the streamers try to monetize their viewerbase with scams.... well, that's why Lirik pre-emptively threw shots at that community. I enjoy some streamers because they are entertaining. Others because they're extremely good at a game. And others because they introduce me to new games. And I'm totally ok they use their viewerbase numbers and engagement to approach brands so they get paid to promote them. Even if I have no intention of buying that product. At all. Ever. But the moment they try to run an half a million scam, and act all offended that people are pointing it out... and being dismissive of their own chat saying they're not educated enough to talk about the topic if they arent financially invested in it... and twitch touches none of it... it's just fucked up. I had some respect towards Lirik as I thought he wasnt that much of a scumbag. I stand corrected.

[@Smarackto]

i dont think lirik understands how nfts are "made" and that they actually harm shit

[@Seallypoops]

oh my god you mean the guy who had to move so he could legally gamble on stream could be bad for pr

[@mysticprophecy5395]

NFTs goes worthless when people screenshot and share them So, go and screenshot and share them

[@Kain42link]

omegalul at that last clip. somebody is salty they didn't get such an offer KEKW

[@dragoonis88]

Aisha had a shitty take there. No one cares about the money part, it's the dumb nft bullshit that's the problem. I applaud miz for not doing that

[@jamiebollans8121]

If Mizkif didn't care about the money, then why mention it in the first place. Is she jealous? Yeah I'd say a leat a little, but she also has a point. Think about it. The majority of his viewers aren't going to make that kind of money for a long time and seeing someone literally say "i have so much money I can afford to turn fortune down", it's going to sting somewhat. People really don't want to know/hear this.

[@christianhayes934]

Alisha so mad she’s not at all important enough to get recognition to even get those kinds of sponsors. Stay mad 😂

[@cindyskullz]

I don’t see what her argument was either lol. It sucks to suck.

[@Stirdu_]

I don’t get why streamers who know legitimately nothing about NFTs claim them to be scams to their massive audiences. NFTs are much riskier than crypto investments but once you get a little experience in the space it’s actually really easy to make a lot of money.

[@woiken3957]

The thing is that these streamers are advertising NFTs to their predominantly young audience, who definitely don't know anything about NFTs. So it's almost guaranteed that they'll lose money

[@Stirdu_]

@@woiken3957 any time a streamer advertises anything it’s going to be seen by some kids who are stupid with their money. There are many NFTs that are worthwhile investments imo and exposing their audience to the space shouldn’t be looked down upon. They aren’t promising anything either, they are just promoting the product. They aren’t promoting dreams.

[@tlhgamer]

I'm so happy Valkyrae seems to be doing better. She seems so genuine.

[@coolboy9979]

Im disappointed about destiny. He is just looking for excuses. I dont believe that the guy that defended the usage of bad words privately because of his believe and burned bridges because of it would do that. I guess everyone has their price. Destiny is right though. About NFTs just being pyramid schemes

[@tigerfestivals5137]

Now just to do what

[@coolboy9979]

@@tigerfestivals5137 do something that he sees as immoral.

[@saiyansfizz]

@@coolboy9979 Context is important here. He doesn't see NFT's as a concept immoral. He was talking about the idea of selling an NFT to someone under the impression that the buyer will be misled by the seller under the 'get rich quick' mentality. This is vastly different from the idea of owning something as a 'collectable item' which is valued based on the value a person or group of persons gives to them. This is no different from collecting rocks, cards, or anything for that matter. This isn't going against his principles nor is it immoral so long as you are not misleading people.

[@quorn23]

The primate getting angry over being a brand risk and then shouting at them is the Twitch version of a Karen shouting in a store

[@ofpbluefalcon]

I agree with Destiny. Shit doesn't make sense. Like what do you do with them? Nothing.

[@EpicPajunen]

When making millions isn't enough that you need to scam you're viewers and supporters for more money. lol

[@Seallypoops]

and call it a sponsorship from yourself

[@katon4525]

Miz did not need to gloat about the amount, I feel that's what most streams do nowadays and don't even realize. You don't need to gloat and put on this fake hero persona to gain the acceptance/ trust of your audience. You don't need to disclose deals that you took/ turned down. It's extremely unprofessional anyway.

[@alphapt9370]

You see it as gloating. I see it as being transparent with his community. That I'm not part of. Unprofessional would be naming the company that approached him. But I get it. You dont like the dude. And it's fine. You're allowed. But calling that unprofessional is not correct. Anyone from any industry will use similar examples to explain a point of view or case study. At any point they'd name the companies involved. He did exactly that. Once again, it's totally fine if you dont like him as a person. But people can see you reaching towards other avenues, and that's where your whole argument goes to die. If you have a very bad premise, it puts your whole argument into question.

[@katon4525]

@@alphapt9370 Your whole argument is based around something I never said which I " I don't like him ". While I do see where your coming from There was no need to mention the amount disclosed in private with said business. Imagine if you was looking for an influencer and saw him saying the amount he was turning down from said company you wouldn't want to work with someone like that. Just disclosing private business deals, that the public doesn't need to know about. He could of approached it like " I don't like NFT's and that's why I feel strongly about not working with them" would of been a better take. But next time please don't assume that someone doesn't like someone based off of an observation, they guy is entertaining and I don't to agree with what he does all the time. Opinions are my own thanks

[@Tonyman078]

@@katon4525 Agree with you 100%. There was never a reason for him to disclose the amount. If he wanted to let his viewers know he could have just told them that he was approuched yo do a sponsor for NFTs but didnt feel like it was ethical to do so. Still lets him seem like a hero for not sponsoring a scam but doesnt make him look like a tool trying to prop himself up and say "Look how much 'worth' to sponsors".

[@magik8852]

If youre gonna bleep out curse words just dont post the video. Way too much was bleeped.

[@kaare1992]

I am not defending EA here, but they never disclosed as to why they banned Train from their event. It was merely an assumption from Nickmercs, that it's related to his gamble streams. So before we blame EA for being hypocrites, let's at least hear them out as to why they banned him in the first place, if they want to speak up that is (most likely we will never hear an official statement). Sure, it might be because of Trains gambling streams, and that would make them huge ass hypocrites. In the end, it's their event, and they can ban whoever they want, no matter who, what or why. Now, on a different and unrelated note; fuck EA.

[@salyerp]

do people still watch twitch????