Lisa Bilyeu: Red Pill Movement Is Setting Up Guys For Disaster

Talking points: relationships, authenticity, mindset
How do you truly live life for yourself while navigating a relationship? What does it take to navigate what both of you want without creating resentment? How do you break free from what you're "supposed" to be-but remain authentic? These are all questions Lisa Bilyeu has had to answer in order to create an incredible life, and she's answered them powerfully. A privilege to sit down with her and dig into the intensity that can be modern relationships! Definitely going to be a part two!
(00:00:00) - Intro and Lisa’s defining moment
(00:07:25) - How Lisa held onto her authenticity and broke free from external validation
(00:13:43) - Lisa’s take on modern relationships, redpill, and the nuances of what women want
(00:27:44) - What women really want men to understand
(00:38:35) - How Lisa and her husband navigate who leads in the relationship
Lisa Bilyeu is cofounder of the billion-dollar company Quest Nutrition and cofounder and President of Impact Theory. She is the host of Women of Impact, a show featuring women who have overcome incredible hardship to achieve massive success. Her mission is to empower all women to become the heroes of their own lives.
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-Podcast: Women Of Impact: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...
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[@Kevin-ts7hf]

You’ve gotta love being emotionally manipulated for having standards. At least these women are getting easier to spot.

[@toxicmale2264]

All a game to hide the fact that they have nothing to offer you.

[@subcitizen2012]

You're emotionally manipulating yourself to believe your standards are anything other than dehumanizing and arbitrary. You're soulless.

[@chiggs9219]

Love your videos. Except this one. Please don't bring this lady back.

[@JazzyArtKL]

Feel the same.

[@ajlw8228]

no she said a lot of good things even though i disagree with some

[@JazzyArtKL]

@@ajlw8228 Nah, I found her not capable of addressing the male perspective enough. It's the same old feminist talking points.

[@RFinkle2]

I feel the same way. After straw manning each and every argument, she’s shown she either a) doesn’t get it or, b) is actively manipulating the conversation

[@subcitizen2012]

The stuff you don't want to hear is probably what you need to hear. Otherwise if you are the problem, you will never know.

[@robertsmith4681]

Why is body count important ? Because we men have to deal with the "Ex" who keeps hanging around. Bad choices have consequences and if those consequences leave undatable it isn't the fault of the men who hold themselves and others to a high standard.

[@deanjackson625]

Plus always being brow beaten and taken advantage of. Women have shown their actions by saying get the bags 🎒 and take all of his money 💰 and self-esteem and make him broke. Women don't care and woman empowerment Plus never taken Responsibility and Accountability for anything in their life done melious and vindictive in the marriage and relationship.

[@cliffthecoolcat]

Yes, dealing with modern women will put you up against many men who orbit her and many men in her DMs. She needs them for validation especially when the man she is dating makes her question herself. She needs them to run to because they always stand with her against her man.

[@mdc8223]

She has Daddy issues! x"D

[@t-spark]

An ex that hangs around is like a hard drug problem that still can be seen clearly around the house. Gone for good? Sure...

[@poeticeclipse]

It IS possible to meet a woman who has a healthy separation from an ex and holds their past partners to those boundaries.

[@TempestTossedWaters]

The buyer decides what's valuable, not the seller. If you try to sell a Toytota for the price of a Ferrari and the buyer doesn't want it, you don't say "That's so insecure and comes from a place of inadequacy. You should learn to value a Toyota the same as a Ferrari." The truth is simply that a Toyota just isn't as valuable as a Ferrari.

[@yossarian67]

I’d rather own a Toyota (at least in terms of getting around, not cash value). But I understand your point.

[@GigaNietzsche]

The red pill is setting up men for disaster? No lol, the status quo sets up men for disaster. The red pill is simply praxis to help mitigate the absolute cluster fuck of modern dating. Same goes with the Black Pill, I would recommend Wheat Waffles.

[@alaalfa8839]

But the woman who sticks with successful guy for right reason, and raisiung kids....these women actually work hard and raise kids. because thye understand that life is baout it to maintain balance....and thye go out with kids on bike or to nature, because thye understand the healtyh aspect of sport, for the kids, so such women exist..

[@GigaNietzsche]

@@alaalfa8839 How did you edit your comment and it still makes zero sense

[@ivoryas1696]

​@@GigaNietzsche Black pill too? So that's not just giving up?

[@GigaNietzsche]

@@ivoryas1696 Not really, more so just acknowledging the importance of genetics over anything else

[@subcitizen2012]

Red pill is status quo bro. It's the white picket fence straight jacket that you and everyone else were told to uphold. It's not real, you're destroying society and yourself.

[@dnashj33]

Wait an minute...she just contradicted herself in her initial statement, and let's be honest: who made her the relationship guru who sets all the rules? She said "...stay away from women with a HIGH body count." Then she said "That is BS! What is wrong with a woman who slept with a FEW guys?" There is a HUGE gap between HIGH number of men and a FEW. Sorry, but I would never take relationship advice from this feminist.

[@AlterEgoPerspectivewBronxGirl]

How would you know how many men a woman slept with?

[@evalebedinsky3830]

Most redpillers now say they only want VIRGINS. I think Lisa was probably thinking about that rhetoric. Because most redpillers do in fact say that a girl with a body count of 3 or more is too much. That is ridiculous!! Most people by their mid twenties have been throw at least 1-2 relationships that would have had sexual contact. And that is not psychologically damaging at that point.

[@mark-147]

​@@evalebedinsky3830 no, those are the extremes used to discredit the redpill. It's a common tactic

[@toxicmale2264]

​@@evalebedinsky3830 It's not ridiculous from the men's perspective. Comparing 2008 to 2018 statistic on male virginity under 30, it found that the numbers tripled from 8% to 28%. (less than 1/3) The number for wom was around 18% now.(less than 1/5) This is just talking about people under 30. The numbers are expected to keep going up especially for men. This is not even taking into account of the men over the age of 30, and under the age of 30 who have had less partners. If you go by the statistics, there is a less than 1/5 chance that the wom under 30 is a virgin.

[@evalebedinsky3830]

@@mark-147 most redpillers are talking about extremes. Most women average body count is 4 and men is 6. The entire narrative of redpill claims women are sleeping around alot more than what stats show and making extreme claims

[@EstablishedHeritage]

No. Feminism is setting women up to be alone and wothout a family of their own.

[@subcitizen2012]

Redpill is setting men up for failure and to be alone without a family of their own.

[@jefflebars-tf5jw]

Always a treat to listen to super successful, lucky, gorgeous youtubers trying to give life advice to normal people, along the lines of “you should be more like me”.

[@_shumba]

I disagree with some of the things Lisa said, but a lot of what she said was really interesting and conducive to healthy habits within a relationship. Thanks for the video.

[@matthewhanson498]

Women’s number one being confidence is exactly what sets them up for failure. Imagine how confident you would be if you always had new women, and you only care about yourself/have no plans to settle down. And why would they? Women who make virtue their quality creates a boundary between men than actually respect and enjoy you as person vs men who just want your body. Sharing your body is a emotional and spiritual experience. It’s valuable, it creates the bond that raising children becomes based on.

[@subcitizen2012]

It's biology brother. If that's the case, then what you're biologically attracted to sets you up for failure. Just deal with your insecurities and move, which will cause you to cough up the red pill. As for "virtues." Your virtue is someone else's vice. Make your choices for yourself, not for society or other adults, that's where your opinions and life ends and theirs begin. Aka none of your effing business. If you can't wrap your head around other people being free and deciding for themselves, then maybe you shouldn't be allowed to live free and decide things for yourself either. It's real simple: grow tf up.

[@matthewhanson498]

@@subcitizen2012 I am particularly interested in what makes good society. What promotes the most well being. Without that structure we are little better than animals living off of instinct. You say we are all free but I don’t see it, the prison of humans design is all around us

[@JazzyArtKL]

Tom Bilyue is great, his wife not so much. She doesn't understand the struggles we face as a man and exert healthy masculinity. Body count is a thing, it tells you something about integrity of the person.

[@subcitizen2012]

It also tells you about he lack of integrity you have.

[@JazzyArtKL]

@@subcitizen2012 What?

[@aih9856]

I agree, but why don’t you talk about feminism as well, both of them are extreme.

[@Treadstone1986]

I think there was really good information here, but I also feel like it massively missed some of the concerns for men with modern dating. I know for me, the biggest concern in being taken advantage of and the imbalance of our culture and laws currently. My background is getting married, having kids and divorcing as a result of infidelity on her part. Her reward for cheating and leaving me is that I must pay her money monthly. That isn't justice. Even with that, there's often a sense with people that don't know my story or me well that somehow I must have done things that deserved this. We're in a space where the collective conscious is that men must earn love and women are owed it. And this dynamic is so damaging to men and to relationships. I would love to put in the hard work into a relationship that involves safety, support, commitment and love, but it is very difficult to find women that are willing to put those things back into relationship.

[@david9920]

I just love Dr Glover take on things. I personally believe that it takes understanding.. If you find a lady who is capable of secure attachment if their is a large difference in wealth do a pencils .if their are a lot of past lovers for a lady so what truly loving secure and capable of true attachment. Do the bank control relationships or do we?

[@Marluxia73]

Love this channel, but purely more in love with the phenomenon of the men noticing the bs too. I’m 26min in and I’m already like “this can’t be what I signed up for”. Spends the first part talking about her going against her father’s wishes. Cool, it worked out for you tremendously. Women going against male figures, nothing new here. Furthermore goes in about how her husband serves her and how he’d die for her. Nothing about how willing she’s to work herself to serve him. But dying for her, just so attractive. Thanks, but no thanks. I vehemently disagree and am disgusted that I need to serve and die for someone to be seen as a “real man” but I’m the bad guy if I request to be made a sandwich. Dating is mostly dead.

[@JazzyArtKL]

Not your strongest vid, buddy. I'm reading your book now. It's awesome.

[@indridcold4982]

There are so many problems with this I'd give myself carpal tunnel trying to cover them all. I'll just say that, no, she doesn't "understand both sides." She has perhaps the least sophisticated understanding of the mass male perspective of anyone I've ever heard who claims to know what they're talking about. And this host is either equally in the dark or, more likely, being willfully ignorant to go along with the firehouse of bullshit spraying from her mouth. Women prefer the Starbucks employee? Come on, man. Be better.

[@edusam666]

20 34: a couple of guys is not 2 guys these days. Elevate the quality of your problems guys. There are very decent women outthere. Just maybe change the circle where you look for them and instead of getting them from clubs get them from healthier activities

[@Jacob011]

Sorry lass! But if she has Instagram it's really not my insecurity that's the problem. 😅

[@GigaNietzsche]

Yeah exactly, I dont think Im insecure for not wanting a woman who flaunts herself to the world for attention

[@evalebedinsky3830]

I feel like you guys think if a girl dresses nicely, not slutty, but put together, you think she’ll be doing it for attention 😅 good luck with that.

[@petergonzalez1719]

I wonder how many men go to prison for false accusations 🤔

[@angelcandelaria6728]

“We’ve been at home too long” doesn’t apply to gen z or gen alpha at all tho…. They literally are Never home… That’s the whole problem. None of them see Motherhood as an upgrade only a downgrade, which speaks volumes of how she values the species itself. Nihilism pandemic (This is not an affront to women and general and abortions) People like to assume and put words where they don’t exist. 😂

[@DominicanLionFanRep]

Thank you for this interview. Now I know exactly what type of woman to dare, definitely, absolutely 100% not her. But great interview, everyone respecting, etc..

[@blisky5]

Worst guest on the channel so far. She is speaking strictly from a female perspective. Why should men listen to her?

[@mundea]

Lisa is the goat, bless her

[@JazzyArtKL]

Nah. She's not that great. Doesn't understand male perspective tbh. Connor should have pushed back in a number of cases.

[@jackd6372]

A key that can open any lock is a master key . A lock that can be opened by any key is a shitty lock

[@atrainay]

Gender war talk

[@GigaNietzsche]

@@atrainayIts undoubtedly true though, this is why historically in the west we had the trade off of both being married off as virgins.

[@Ben-wp5rx]

Except women aren’t locks. They’re people with their own wants, this binary thinking is dumb and reductive

[@Me-eb3wv]

@@Ben-wp5rxso are men keys? You said nothing about them

[@BGFitnessNY]

This woman and her husband are way too complicated.

[@poeticeclipse]

Lisa's wonderful! Highly intelligent and driven. If you listen to her other content, she very much cares about the relationship dynamic and understanding both men and women as individuals and honoring their experience. If you haven't seen her chats with Matthew Hussey, it's totally worth it.

[@amtak2351]

Imagine sitting across the dinner table with this woman. She didn't stop talking for 25 minutes. If you want to help men you need to listen.

[@apxika932]

She was invited to come talk. What did you want her to do instead if that was the goal here? Maybe you should listen and build your own opinion on what’s said rather than being immature in the comment section.

[@amtak2351]

Having a podcast is about having a discussion, not one person talks for an hour.

[@dnashj33]

@@apxika932 ....you TOTALLY missed the point. Here is a super slow motion replay for you.....SHE. DID. NOT. STOP. TALKING. FOR. 25 MINUTES (straight). That means there were no breaks. No stopping to take a breath. No pausing to listen to her hosts opinion....for almost half a freaking hour! Good grief, man. Read and think before you post something stupid.

[@evalebedinsky3830]

Who’s fault is that??? He’s is a podcast host and chooses when to interject. He CHOSE to let her speak for that long. Stop playing the victim 😅😅

[@kshitijshekhar1144]

@@apxika932 if you want to CHANGE THE EFFING CONVERSATION MEN ARE HAVING with themselves and their peers about the red pill and supposed misogynistic things, shouting and talking to them only makes it worse. Men don't shout at women who are having problems. You're the immature simp here

[@chadsensei-ue6jn]

The Red Pill is just where all the Creeps hang out online, hating on women and telling themselves how awesome they are. It's the very definition of a circle ....

[@mark-147]

You mean inverse feminism?

[@kshitijshekhar1144]

Dumb one sided criticism. Men fall in love, women fall in business

[@GigaNietzsche]

Yeah a lot of the "anti redpill" "traditional" point of view is just placing blame on the majority of men for the actions of a minority of men and the majority of women.

[@behelertrespass7002]

Hour of cope and redpill isnt even discussed

[@Xeranx]

Thank you for making this comment. You spared me watching/listening to 52 minutes of shallow water toe dipping tripe. Many of us have heard the first 27 seconds' arguments in various forms for the last few months. Unoriginal and show that the person attempting the argument isn't the least bit curious enough to actually engage with any meat on the bone regarding RP. One million blessings on you and yours.

[@siemprestruggle9272]

Why is this woman on here? The man who runs this channel needs to find better guests.

[@skiaddict08]

Looks like a burning man veteran

[@decline.enjoyer]

Hahaha. Best comment

[@chooseaname1423]

I like Lisa, but she talks too much. She needs to cut back and find more succinct ways to get her message across. I don’t watch her videos anymore because they’re waaaay too long and filled with lots of extra nonsense. It’s too bad because she has awesome guests and there are golden nuggets in there, I just don’t have time to sit for hours to find them. I really hope she re-evaluates the way she runs her show. This interview could have been much better if it were a back and forth discussion. I’m sure that’s what you meant it to be, I’m sorry she railroaded the whole thing. I like your show and I’ve seen other interviews you’ve done and those were well done.

[@kieranramtohal9645]

A couple of guys is fine…a couple of hundred, probably not

[@AlterEgoPerspectivewBronxGirl]

He had to throw feminism in there at some degree. Men need to stop blaming women point blank period

[@Kevin-ts7hf]

Women need to learn what the word accountability means. They’re proving within a century precisely why it took them so long to get equal rights.

[@mark-147]

And women need to stop blaming men, point blank period ffs.

[@GigaNietzsche]

How is it not by and large the fault of women? Only a minority of men are sleeping around where as the majority of women are sleeping around. A lot of the problems we see today would stop if women simply dated their looksmatch. Of course asking women to hold themselves accountable is too much to ask nowadays so we may need some harsh methods to correct things.