Listening For The First Time! Jinjer - Pisces REACTION

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[@alanfoster6589]

"I was not ready for this". Nobody is ever ready for this. They are terrific live, btw.

[@rabiatorthegreat6163]

Some of us have listened to Arch Enemy before. Both Alissa (the current singer) and before her Angela Gossow use(d) harsh vocals. I got my little surprise in 2002, when AE released the "Wages Of Sin" album, the first with Angela aboard.

[@stunningandbrave3527]

@@rabiatorthegreat6163 yeah they both suck compared to Johan though

[@nvhs1]

Always the reason I turn on reactions to this song.

[@matthewgoodA1206]

Her growling roars blow everyone away. Since she sings so sweetly and gently. They’re a great metal band, and she’s a superb vocalist. 🇺🇦

[@kriegstenicht3502]

The moment you said that you don´t like harsh vocals, I knew the audience would throw Jinjer on you. 😀Great reaction !

[@kriegstenicht3502]

btw Spiritbox is a nice Band from Canada. Female Vocalist. Here is a link to her one take vocal performance of there Song "Rule of nines" kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIeniYd8mqyMrcU, she is another example of switching voice from clean to harsh on a dime.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Thank you :)

[@okiejohn3925]

I laughed the first time I heard her say that, knowing that her subs would make sure Jinjer was on it's way to her channel!

[@rickchristenham5416]

The Pisces sign is two fishes swimming in a circle and symbolizes duality. Think of the Chinese yin and yang symbol. She's not singing about pathology or mental illness, but rather both sides of Pisces' deep emotional nature manifesting both as positive sensitivity and dark depression and self destruction. As a Pisces myself (Tatiana is one as well), I can attest that our desire for intimacy often makes us vulnerable to abuse and being taken advantaged of by others.

[@arrgylerawrgyle3784]

Right for the wrong reasons, same with Nirvana and heart shaped box

[@Roderik95]

Believing in star signs IS mental illness. So she isn't wrong lol.

[@arrgylerawrgyle3784]

@Marcin Stępnicki first off I want distinguish between being right for the wrong reason and being wrong for the right reasons isn't really meant to be negative but that clarification is needed or something similar, so thanks for asking nicely. Nirvana "heart shaped box" begins with "she eyes me like a Pisces". What does this mean? Quite honestly I have no clue as you can ask anyone who believes in astrological symbols and each and everyone will give a different answer. Though some will come close to each other it is all vaguery. The problem I have is believing that astrology predicts not only how you will act, BUT, that one type of person has the only/best insight into the emotional space being explored here. This is mostly what I was objecting to above. Part of this is coming from the shift in narrative that occurs in the song. The first two verses are very much personal with the use of "I" The third is about another. "His" The end is about everyone (? Presumably, or at least an amalgamation) - all the Pisces are swimming up the river.. and there is a sense of a mass slaughter house. The end of the "I" story is the second verse talking about the hooks and nets but she is "skiddish" and not taking the bait. But others are. It's a warning with the consequences then spelled out. The symbolism in the yin and yang... Which I think is older than the Pisces symbology but I honestly could be wrong there... The symbolism and ideas still are correct. The way to look at this from my perspective is to take your own path, not get caught up (look at the myth of sysiphis) in the emotional, AND to be a unified whole. The yin and yang is one continuous cycle and circle "you can't tell where one ends and the other begins" This is completeness. Not being this way leads to the end of the song. Want more?

[@matikaevur6299]

Isn't astrology fun! I think there are 3 duality signs : Pisces : up or down Gemini : all together Libra : balancing between one and another

[@zazz69ed]

song has nothing to do with astrology at all per Tatiana herself and this song was about something very deeply personal that she was dealing with and her and her guitarist are the only two that know what it's true meaning is. This is per her in an interview because of so many people making statements like you just did and reading their own beliefs into it. But everyone can read what they wish into it as it strikes each and every person differently. But again it has nothing to do with Astrology per her. shrugs.. is still a very beautiful and haunting song.

[@fatmanvidz]

Seen Jinjer live last week. WHAT A PERFORMANCE!!!!! They sound literally the exact same, if not better live!!! Her transitions are so clean too. Love Tatiana ❤️

[@KWHCoaster]

Indeed, saw them late 2019 in Toronto. Incredible live show!! Hoping for a return visit soon.

[@jayhegener3028]

I was waiting for this one! 😂 That little pixie Tatiana is a vocal monster. So damn good with everything she does: screams, cleans, belts, etc. And the "pivot on a dime" transitions are insane.

[@cyberdan42]

For me. Many metal bands, songs and lyrics deal with difficult and often dark topics with sophistication and empathy, something which is missed by many. The aggression and power of the music also serve as a safe outlet for the anger and frustration that the music content also invokes. This often helps me (and I hope others) to reflect, relate and manage these emotions and social issues in our own minds. Finally, the metal community is generally tolerant, accepting and frequently thoughtful. Love it all.

[@chrisdietrich8944]

I love the acceptance of our metal community!!!

[@zazz69ed]

Truth... Metal does not stray away from the hard topics or the difficult topics..Old school Metal head here and I can say honestly ... I am here only because Metal made me think and saved me from myself and my self destructive attitude and extreme anger when i was a very young man. it helped me work through a very very hard and dark time for me. sometimes there is no one to turn too but music is always a friend with no judgement and the metal community relates to those people hurting and in those dark places..when have you ever seen anyone raise up a kid that is wheelchair bound up above everyone's head and help them crowd surf.. no one but metal heads...when have you seen people with disabilities being welcomed into a pit and treated as they wish to be... normally as they should be...but yet also watched over so they can bash away and not get hurt also... that's metal heads... my grandkids are different levels of metal and genres of metal.. the youngest is a girl of 7 and she loves amon amarth and some other bands that are heavier.. the grandson is 10 and loves more the Korn and even metal core i think it is called has that dubstep stuff in it.. so be well and keep on rockin' ... Metal for life !! \m/

[@larrysims7235]

Well said

[@richardgivens2422]

Her singing is almost bluesy.... then she blows her head off. Definitely a powerful and well controlled voice.

[@kevinfeeney5309]

The end of the video to Perennial live at wacken 2019 shows off her breath control while performing. If she had not spoken to the crowd you'd never guess she was that out of breath. (Perennial was their last song of their set that day)

[@bartonbagnes4605]

Her vocal abilities are incredible. She can sing any mood. One of my favorite songs by her is Wallflower. Apparently she is a bit of a procrastinater, and her band mates were pressuring her to finish a song, and this was her response.

[@paulriddle7818]

A bit? She waits until the last minute. Every album she procrastinates and goes in a zone where she writes the melodies and lyrics.

[@paulriddle7818]

She says she's working in it. 😂

[@ShanLiB]

I've watched/listened to, Tatiana in interviews and she seems very intelligent and thoughtful. She also seems somewhat reserved and not pushy of demanding. I think you would like her a lot. Of course, the whole group is made up of extraordinarily talented folks and reading their CV's would make you wonder if there is anything they couldn't do. I really loved this reaction and appreciate your taking the time to try interpreting the lyrics.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

thank you :) she sounds interesting and very cool!

[@bimbkin2830]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKLOlH6sqqekpsk interview with Tatiana

[@TrickOrRetreat]

They are to good to fake it. When you are this good why not going for it. First time listener though. my brain says no, but in the song i heard woman pitches as well. I´m going crazy here. Help ? This have to be fake

[@kylefrandsen2665]

The unusual time signatures of their music puts Jinjer solidly into the "progressive metal" subgenre. I think Tatiana will be the first to admit that Gwen Stefani is one of her idols, so that may be why her singing style sounds so familiar. I recommend "Home Back" and that you look at the band's history, the motivation of the song and read the lyrics before listening. The band members had to leave their homes and move to Kiev when Russia first invaded Ukraine in 2014. The song is sadly still relevant today with Russia's latest invasion. I agree that the lyrics are hard to understand when using the growl/scream technique which is why I recommend reading the lyrics first, but the emotions evoked by the technique and the visuals of the video make this a must-visit video for a reaction. They do sell shirts on their website to raise money for Ukrainian relief. Those are also worth checking out - cool shirts, great band, important fundraiser.

[@mcflyjp]

The "unusual time signatures" is only unusual to the genre, which I guess is why you said they get put into a subgenre. Check out RX Bandits, they are prog rock/ska and they go through like 3 or 4 different time signatures every song. Also their bridges are always ridiculous

[@christianmeyer6724]

Just in case you might be interested, Elizabeth (TCV, guess you know her) on YT had one of her Tea Time Interviews with Tatiana. Good source for background insight. To me especially regarding genres that might not be "in the centre of my musical comfort zone". Better understanding for me gives way to respect/appreciation of art/artists regardless/beyond personal "prejudice/stereotypes" I may have/had. Your reactions are profound and empathic at same time. Thank you !

[@j.f.fisher5318]

I'd also recommend the endoscope video with Will Ramos of Lorna Shore that Elizabeth did, exploring the anatomy of harsh vocals.

[@christianmeyer6724]

@@j.f.fisher5318 Yes, indeed awesome 👏

[@anastasiagreene5967]

This song is what got me into watching reaction videos! It never gets old watching Pisces reactions!!!

[@kevinfeeney5309]

Personally I think teacher, teacher...or who's gonna be the one or perennial (live at wacken 2019) are better tracks that show off her insane ability to switch back n forth between the growls and cleans... but this was the song (and particular version) that caught my attention to the band. I absolutely love her growls.

[@SRMWorkshop]

I think Wallflowers and I Speak Astronomy might be more your speed. Also Judgment and Punishment (live one take) is a good one to check out. In general Tati will use the growls to express pain or anger, in this song it was to create the duality that is the sign Pisces.

[@nitro_001newman2]

I love Astronomy. The music video is fantastic.

[@billholder1330]

@@nitro_001newman2 Me too, I Speak Astronomy is right up there with their best.

[@dhz781]

The line "searching for a hook to catch on to see the sun beam" sung so beautifully is DEVASTATING

[@dhz781]

it's a song about people who aren't designed for the world they were born into.

[@jonathanwobesky9507]

another example of the sacrifice in the Pisces archetype, would catch a hook (death) to see the sun. It's all Pisces stuff. All of it. They get feisty too and wave their tail. Tati is like everybody, a collection of planets in different signs, I'm sure she is Aries and Cancer too and Scorpio to make that sound from Hades.

[@rubentullenaar2934]

The drummer is Vladislav Ulasevish, he is a multi instrumentalist. You need to watch him play a classic composition by Rachmaninov “Prelude in C# minor” it will blow your socks off.

[@zazz69ed]

yes much truth here in that comment !!!

[@jasonmarshall7572]

I turned to metal as a kid because my life was full of pain and drama i was surrounded by hooks and nets too, as the people in my family who wanted to set me up or entrap me into the bad things they where doing but i was skittish and avoided it all and to this day thankful i made the right choices in life and created my own peaceful life away from drama and violence. Metal is the reality we pretend doesn't exist but life is full of anger, pain, drama and to many of us is/was an escape but now we just enjoy the talented performers and the stories they tell. It's not the same old same old like mainstream.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

That was very well said. It makes a lot of sense. Thank you for sharing that

[@Rackelhane]

This band is incredible!!! And so are Tatiana.Thanks for a amusing reaction.👍

[@mikeconway9849]

Great reaction Rosalie! I'm not a big fan of harsh vocals but it does take skill and training to vocalize this way. Tatiana is a good example of this by switching back and forth between her 'normal' voice and her growls without showing any apparent damage. I understand she is self trained in this respect. Most people focus on her but the band is musically great also!

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

I totally agree! it's amazing.

[@tribaltalker1608]

I watched a Japanese lady & her elderly mother react to Jinjer's Pisces on KZbin, a couple of years ago. When the extreme vocals started the younger lady was in shock, with a similar expression to you. Then the older one just nodded sagely and said "Ah yes, Western women".

[@paulhelberg5269]

Tatiana has great use of her false vocal cords to perform the growl. Her switching between her normal voice and the growl is seamless and helps her convey strong emotional content. She plants herself well and you can see that she is not straining her voice to accomplish the distortion effect. Great vocalist and a really good band. Listen again to Pisces a couple of times and it might just grow on you.

[@ouslander1]

You have experienced the Greatest and Most talented Front Woman. Enjoy the Show!

[@summeronio9751]

You're absolutely correct, she was doing mostly growls, and it's so impressive that she can without blowing her voice. Her voice live is HUGE

[@jeffthejinjer]

This song was live to show off their new drummers skills. The theme of duality pervades the song. “Scale armour belies”… “virgin innocence”. Whereas “one being brings life”, “another runs for death”, hence the dichotomy of the voices.

[@thomasharper3185]

I truly loved this reaction. As a person of faith that actually loves heavy heavy music I find that your analysis to be refreshing. As a guitarist and musician I learned to appreciate Jinjer not only for Tatiana’s Voice but for the time changes and rhythms that create tension in their music. You will love Jinjer once you understand what they are doing. If you want to truly go hard-core with something even heavier than Jinjer I would recommend Lorna Shore to the hellfire. I’m just going to warn you to prepare yourself as you’ve never heard anything like this. Heavy vocals as art to the extreme.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

thank you, Thomas. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the reaction and can appreciate the open-mindedness and analysis. thank you also for the suggestion.

[@nasa258e]

What's your faith got to do with it?

[@thomasharper3185]

@@nasa258e The person that posted this made reference to her belief, so I ask you why are you so offended by the mentioning of it.

[@lynnef1988]

The duality, and the fact it contrasts so much from the clean vocals is on purpose. It makes sense with the lyrics. The more you hear it, the more you can make out what she's saying. Her diction when screaming is really good! I loved your lyric breakdown on this one, Jinjer always have very interesting lyrics.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

that makes sense. well said. i like how the singing/screaming matches the lyrics. art on multiple levels.

[@Kipperbob]

Nice breakdown, Jinjer will change your perspective on metal, Tatiania is a whole new level of vocal performance, you should definitely check out more of their material because Pisces is just an introduction to the talent that is Jinjer.

[@Drewcatmorris]

You have a new follower becuse your reaction to the video was only half the entire run time. I love the breakdown of the lyrics and a great take on the psychology behind them. In Astrology, Pisces is represented by two fish pointing in opposite directions. This duality a pull towords both life and death. It is like the Quote from Sitting Bull: “Inside of me there are two dogs. One is mean and evil and the other is good and they fight each other all the time. When asked which one wins I answer, the one I feed the most.”

[@shaneweary3247]

Keep exploring the world of Jinjer you won't be disappointed!!! I'm a 48 year old metal head and I haven't been blown away by a band for years until I heard Jinjer a few years ago

[@sicklikephee7855]

she sounds even better live! its 100 percent her, i love this band so much.

[@GenXHBReacts]

I was not into screaming until I came across Jinjer, primarily because I can understand her. I might miss a word here and there, but the majority I can understand. For some people it is like a Scottish accent. You have to listen to it for a little while to catch it.

[@haroldcrown5541]

There is a great interview with the lead singer on the charismatic voice channel. They go into her voice and how she worked it.

[@ireallyreallyhategoogle]

My favourite part of that song is when she sings the word "World", so beautiful.

[@jeffharding2020]

Great reaction! I love all the self-soothing going on. Lol. But that is a very normal reaction. Jinjer is at the top of their game and are really unlike anyone else at the moment. They blend grooves and genres with ease. Be sure to check out "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher". And welcome to Jinjer Nation!

[@palladinodessa8988]

Perennial live at Whacken - yes - see her do this live, hear the different ranges that she plays in with her vocals. It is impressive live and the band just holds their sound right there for her to blend in and out of.

[@marko.akz.]

I was waiting for this to show up,love ittt , as a metalhead the most emotional expression that can define us is screaming and giving it all out ! And there is alot of psychology in it , its all after reaching the rock bottom the limit, and there is where we explode this art this adrenalin power ! shoutout for all metalheads who really knows how it feels \m/

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

well said. one of the reasons I am growing fond of metal to a degree.

[@NiamorH]

I have never enjoyed listening to any kind of metal prior discovering them 2 years ago. This band really gave me another perspective of what metal could be and I am slowly opening to some other bands now. Of course I decided to go to their show in 2021 and then a festival with them in 2022 and those were the best experiences in ages. I already have my tickets for early 2023 when they come back :) They are touring the US starting end of october, check them out maybe?

[@chrisspellman8545]

I was the same and now listen to other metal bands! I do prefer female lead singers though in that genre✌️

[@kevinfeeney5309]

Lol, I'm the opposite. I've mainly been listening to death metal, blackened death and black metal since 2000 ...but found Jinjer refreshing. All of them are insanely talented.

[@StevenEverett7]

Although Jinjer isn't a particular favorite of mine, I just can't resist. Whenever I see someone getting ready to react to this song. Always. Wait for the reaction... 😆😆😆

[@thomaskellyjr6370]

She’s very much an introvert which is the basis for Wallflower. Amazing composition.

[@manna6618]

New sub, purely for the Jinjer reaction. This lady...she is the ONLY female that every metal male singer bows down to. Tati said 'oh your metal...hold my beer'. The best in the business bar none, and she is female. Now THAT is true girl power. X

[@mikeconway9849]

This will be priceless! A great source of entertainment is watching new reactions to this song!

[@chriso6719]

Yes, Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine, where the fighting started in 2014. Russian is their native language. Nice lyric analysis, you pretty much got it. Tatiana is mostly self taught, and yes, that is all the same person. lol The harsh vocals are using the false vocal folds, not the vocals chords. As you see, she can easily switch back and forth between the harsh and clean. She doesn't really do anything to take care of her voice either, she even smokes. Tati is a Pisces. Glad you mentioned the drummer, Vlad. This live session was done to showcase him, he had recently joined the band. He ,Roman(guitar), and Eugene(bass) are all awesome musicians. The guys were allowed to leave Kiev a few months ago ,and they are back on tour. Yes, they are classified metalcore, but they will use other genres, including jazz and reggae , often within the same song. She can do it live as well. Perennial (live at Wacken 2019) is a good example. If you want to try more: Teacher Teacher, Judgement(and Punishment) vocal one take, Home Back, Vortex, I Speak Astronomy.

[@joespradley2323]

I Love Jinjer! You have more to look at that will each time give you a different music feel. My next Jinjer song for you to react to is “Teacher, Teacher”. Great reaction!🙏🏼🌹

[@Lunarmech]

This song is an introduction to Jinjer for its shock value, but a lot of their work is a lot better musically IMO. I recommend checking out any of the standard affair to really see how impressive her voice is; Perennial live at Wacken 2019, Judgement& Punishment One Take, etc.. Great band!

[@tn_bayouwulf2949]

The correct lyric is "Scale Armor, belies." Somehow, many reactors find the lyrics with that single error. If you choose to watch other Jinjer videos, I suggest "Pit of Consciousness" live in Kiev. High quality production value.

[@damontcs]

Just adding to this, the full sentence would be "Scale armor belies (conceals/hides/obfuscates) virgin innocence", and the lyrics make a ton more sense that way :)

[@liadanryan-gerhardt7189]

​@@damontcsthank you! This finally makes full sense to me😅

[@vasilishatzikos44]

Every classic heavy metal band has crystal clear vocals, don't be afraid to explore bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Dio and so on. You will be amazed at the sheer musicianship.

[@garycoates4987]

The lyrics Tatiana writes are amazing in every song, this song to me the lyrics are beautiful, my take on the theme is someone who is emotionally open and vulnerable so they can be hurt easily, so they armor themselves to look strong

[@Adam_Le-Roi_Davis.]

Great reaction and analysis. Jinjer are discribed as Prog (Progressive) Metal, they are; Tatiana on vocals, Roman is on guitar, Eugene is the bassist, Vlad is the drummer. The band are all really skilled and talented. As you know the song is about the duality of the Zodiac sign of Pisces, Tatiana and Eugene are the both Pisces, Tatiana is the lyricist of the band's songs. Please check out other songs by them; 'Perennial' live at Wacken open air festival from 2019, 'Teacher Teacher' the official music video, 'Judgement (and Punishment)' Tatiana's one-take vocal performance, 'Home Back' the official music video, 'Vortex' the official music video, 'On The Top' and 'Pit of Consciousness' both live in Kiev, there are many more great tracks but these are good ones to start with. The term of the vocal technique used in this is 'Growling' but Tatiana is able to 'Scream' as well, she can use all the different types of harsh vocals. I'm really impressed with your reaction having seen many on KZbin of Jinjer songs so, I've subscribed.

[@Siendorf]

Jinger is a great band. I love spiritbox. Courtney LaPlante's voice just soothes me

[@PaulGuy]

I'm so glad someone finally noticed the drummer, he's fantastic.

[@MLuxemburg]

🔥Welcome to Jinjer, Rosalie! I just found your channel, great reaction, I love that you explored the lyrics and your thoughts about metal music, subbed! Thank you for bringing the fantastic genre twisting music of Jinjer to more people! I love their energy, how tight they are, how down to earth they are, the heaviness mixed with complexity and groove, beautiful singing and beautiful growling and especially Tatiana's lyrics! The first time I heard Pisces in 2019, I hadn't liked any metal with growling and it took me a few listens to start liking it, but now Tatiana is my favorite vocalist and Jinjer my favorite band (Pisces has been my wakeup alarm for a couple years and I still love it more every time I hear it). TLDR: skip to the last paragraph 😂 Sorry for the very long comment, I just love Jinjer too much and love seeing people discover (and usually fall in love with) them and each of their songs! My three favorite comments about Jinjer that I've seen, "terrifying levels of talent", "I hate it when a Jinjer song ends", and "that was more unexpected than my first child" 🤣 I love the story of Tatiana getting interested in learning to growl. In her own words, "I was inspired by Otep (Shamaya). When I was 15, my friend showed me a record of House of Secrets. I was like, ‘That dude - his voice is so powerful'. And he said, ‘Oh come on Tatiana, that’s actually a woman!’ I was like, ‘What?’ She blew my mind. That was the time, the moment when I realized I wanted to shock people just like her. I just had the feeling or the intuition, like an extra sense that this is what I’m made to do.” Three of the four current members had essentially no professional musical training when they joined Jinjer, the exception is Vlad the drummer who studied classical piano. They've been a tour heavy band, on the road almost nonstop from 2013 to 2020 and still touring again now since the covid shutdowns, hard work that has made them fantastic live and they make it look effortless. For most of their songs, the three guys write most of the instrument music, then Tatiana writes most of the lyrics and melodies (she gets tons of well deserved credit for her vocal and stage performance abilities, but maybe not quite enough for her lyrical and musical composition abilities). Roman the guitarist has written a lot of the instrument music in the past, so he's a huge part of the beautiful sound of Jinjer, but Vlad the drummer (who also plays guitar and piano, but so far not in most Jinjer songs - I think he played piano in lainnereP) has been writing more of it and wrote nine of the eleven songs for the newest album Wallflowers, videos are out for Vortex, Mediator, Wallflower, Disclosure!, and Call Me A Symbol. Eugene composes some - he wrote the instrument music for one song on Wallflowers and a few songs on other albums, and I know that apart from his amazing work on the bass, he adds a lot of riffs and has written lyrics for a few Jinjer songs. The band (all members have been Ukrainian, with Russian their first language) started in eastern Ukraine in 2009 as a group of three (then five) with none of the current members (they consider the official start of the band when Tatiana replaced the male vocalist and Roman joined as lead guitar 2009/2010), Vlad is the fifth drummer (joined in 2016 after the third drummer got partially paralyzed from a tragic spine injury and the fourth drummer couldn't keep up with Jinjer's touring schedule) and it's been a group of four since 2015 (though they've considered their road sound engineer Sasha to be a fifth member). I think they're still friends with all the former members and you can see former Jinjer guitarist (and one of the founders of Jinjer) turned actor, Dmitry Oksen, on guitar in older Jinjer videos, and acting as an interrogator in one of their newer videos, Disclosure! One of the things I love most about Jinjer is the messages in Tatiana's lyrics and the way she combines her beautiful growling and beautiful singing with Jinjer's fantastic instrumentals to be so powerful for expressing the anger and pain in those messages: the anti-war message in Home Back, the anti-greed in On The Top, Mediator and No Hoard Of Value (also the horror of the coal mining industry in their home Ukraine), the protest song Who Is Gonna Be The One, the anti-fascism of Sit Stay Roll Over, the anger at people being narrow minded in Teacher Teacher and Judgment & Punishment, the struggles with mental health in Pit Of Consciousness, Vortex, Wallflower and Perennial, the giving voice to mother nature angry at humanity for letting capitalism destroy her in a bunch of songs like Ape, The Prophecy, Cloud Factory, Noah, Outlander, Dip A Sail and Bad Water. Other favorites of mine are I Speak Astronomy, Retrospection, Words of Wisdom, Just Another, Captain Clock, Scissors, Exposed As A Liar, I Want It I'll Get It, A Plus Or A Minus, When Two Empires Collide, lainnereP, Prologue and Beggar's Dance (those last two are short album bookends that might do well together in one reaction). I haven't found a Jinjer song I don't love, so I think you can't go wrong if you choose any of them, but a few good choices might be Perennial (official and/or live at Wacken, both are must-see), Teacher Teacher (official), Judgement & Punishment (official and/or Tatiana's one take performance, again both must-see), Pit of Consciousness (official and/or live in Kiev/Kyiv, a third where both are absolutely must-see) or the heartwrenching plea against war in Home Back (official video). Note that because Jinjer has so many great official videos and so many astounding live performance videos, no Jinjer fan will ever mind if you react to a second video for a Jinjer song you've already heard, so whichever songs you choose, whatever pace you like: hope you'll keep trying more Jinjer and enjoy! ❤🖤🤘

[@kellie7180]

I absolutely have been captivated by Tatianas voice. I love all genres of music. The technicality of her vocal prowess is beyond impressive to me. I think she is the queen of false-fold screaming. Going from clean melodic vocals into her effortless, no-strain vocal scream. She is SO skilled with her breathe control and phrasing. The entire band is amazing. You can hear multiple influences with the drums, guitar and bass......they are SO talented Anyway, I also love the lyrics.... they are wonderful and so appropriate to this track. I can't say enough good things....Glad you are experiencing this Rosalie. ♥️

[@SolitaryReaper-ye2lf]

Tati is on the way to become one of the all time greatest metal vocalists. The band is so awesome, people ignore how good the guitarists and the drummer are. They are musically so good and the lyrics are so awesome.

[@andritti]

Jinjer is so much more than just Tatiana´s unarguably awesome voice skill... She is also a GREAT poet/songwriter and Vlad, Roman and Eugene are ALL EXTREMELY talented musicians as well. Plus, they are REALLY cool and humble human beings, surrounded by an also amazing crew. They are directly and undirectly helping a lot of the Ukrainian people affected by this fuckin war and that is suffering hardly for a long time... MUCH RESPECT TO ALL OF THEM!!! JNJR FOR LIFE!!!

[@KoonFox6560]

love jinjer! and fans love reactions to them because they have so many unexpected sounds that break traditions in music. as others have said, keep going - they are so diverse, intriguing, and incredible live: "Perennial" live at Wacken, "Judgement and Punishment" one take, and "Teacher, Teacher"

[@terrywags982]

Tatiana is a vocal beast and she will rip your lungs out ! Great

[@donnilloyd1355]

I was wondering if you would ever listen to this. AMAZING. She, well, the whole Group is Great, but Tatiana. She is AMAZING! Great reaction, Rosalie.

[@RockDocNeal]

Hey Rosalie, watching first time reactions to Jinjer never gets old! 😆 I’ve been a musician since I was a kid and I’ve listened to a variety of music and played in multiple bands of various genres, but I was never into metal music with scream/growl harsh vocals until I discovered Jinjer near the end of last year…now I’m obsessed! I instantly loved them due to their fantastic songwriting, musicianship and production and the incredible vocals of Tatiana, with her ability to transition back and forth instantly from beautiful clean vocals to some of the best harsh vocals I’ve heard, female or male. I would highly recommend watching the official video for their song Wallflower (which has a really cool groove, nice lyrics about Tatiana being an introvert and an awesome video), the “live from Wacken” video for the song Perennial and the “live one take vocal performance” video for Judgement and Punishment (Also, Homeback is a powerful song about the chronic fighting in their homeland in Eastern Ukraine, but the music is a little “heavier”). BTW, I love your reaction!

[@badrasbury8171]

I think the hook represents things we all hope for in life, feeling it will lead to our "sunbeam", maybe in her case its being a star, not fully realizing the negative side of our wish until we achieve our dream. Emeralds ripped away is the innocence being stripped from the naive view of her dream. Drowning in the liquid gold is the joy and satisfaction of the beginnings of success. I believe the song is basically be careful what you wish for from the view of an emotionally sensitive soul.

[@richletram539]

Such an awesome live band. Saw them last year (caught Covid at the show, but worth it). Going to see them again this Sunday in Boston. So excited! Great reaction. 😁

[@charleslatora5750]

I see Jinjer & Pisces, and I click right away and hit the like button immediately...and then I smile😈😈😈😈😈. Surprise😱

[@gatis8136]

Jinjer is a beauty!

[@gottagowork]

Couple of suggestions to keep in mind down the line: Netherlands - Ayreon - When The World Breaks Down. May have a surprise or two. Or 5. Or more 😉 Mongolia - The Hu - Wolf Totem or Yuve Yuve Yu (102M views since Sep 28 2018, not too shabby).

[@SteveSmith-os5bs]

I have been listening to Jinjer for about 5 years now. Jinjer brakes the mold when it comes to metal. I think one of their main foundations for alot of their song would be light Jazz to which they create metal Jazz. But what I like best is that their songs can be so different and progressive that you never know what to expect.

[@ThorsteinnK]

What makes the drummer so insanely good is his use of ghost notes. It's exquisite. And FYI, there is a shit load of bands that have female growlers and girls in metal are getting more and more prominent. Absolutely amazing. I think one of the first bands that gained some notoriety using a female growling vocalist, that actually replaced a male growling former vocalist, is the Swedish band Arch Enemy. They employed a German singer Angela Gossow who came on board in 2001 on the Wages of Sin album. I remember from the time that this turned the metal world quite upside down - but it was really before youtube, so there weren't any reaction videos back then. :)

[@kevinfeeney5309]

There was Mythic way back in 1992.. but they were not long lived. Broke up a year or two later.

[@chrisoralls3555]

Welcome to the awesomeness of Jinjer!!

[@samanthamullin5585]

Hahahahaha your reactions are priceless. Yeahhhh, Jinjer is extremely talented.

[@jonathanc8560]

the song was made for a mini van. love jinjer.

[@boblethbridge6292]

We've all been waiting for this :) ... Jijner are a group of insanely good musical technicians; their application of musical theory is well beyond the ordinary, and their playing.... Tatiana is a reggae singer with an expanded repertiore... afaik, she prefers singing reggae, but she taught herself to scream when she joined the group. Apparently she was worried her screams might sound "girly', so she worked on them until they didn't... I think she is a mezzo towards the lower end, by nature; and she has a delightful set of overtones. She sings with very relaxed vocal tract, in general. For more awesome switches, "Teacher, Teacher" is good, and "Perennial" live at Wacken is a go-to. Really enjoying your channel!

[@npinjest7779]

Inasmuch music is about contrasts, harsh, distorted vocals offer metal artists a whole extra constrasting palette of sounds to express themselves, ending up with means to explore the full range of human experience - pain and pleasure, angels and demons, inner or in the outside world, as I think you can see with Pisces. At the same time, metal is not all dark, doom-and-gloom, it also comes in powerfully uplifting and inspiring varieties. As an example, I'd offer Devin Townsend, one of the all-time great all-around rock/metal vocalists, who spent his entire career in that exploration, occasionally reaching the (metal) gospel levels of uplift. If that sounds interesting, may I suggest you check out Higher which showcases all of those things, especially the grand live performance in Plovdiv, backed by a full live orchestra and a choir.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Interesting! Thank you for that suggestion :)

[@danieljones3683]

I just found your channel yesterday and I love your reactions. Jinjer is awesome but I love metal. Tatiana has an incredible voice.

[@mikebonecutter1869]

I've seen Jinjer live twice now and their videos do them no justice. Live the band is amazing and Tatiana's vocals are flawless. Had a meet and greet with them and each member was so kind and humble.

[@luxijus5581]

Outlander was the first song i heard from Jinjer and made me a fan instantly. Pisces was my favourite and Judgment

[@beastmode8985]

Nice reaction! Just subbed to follow your journey into more metal music 🤘😉. I think you were very close with your analysis of the lyrics, I would just like to add a few things. Yes, the symbol of Pisces is a fish, but it's actually a pair of fish. It implies duality. Similar to the Ying-yang.

[@lafayettecatron156]

I love JINJER. HOME BACK is my favorite 🤘🐵🤘

[@j.f.fisher5318]

Good analysis. It's about aspects of Tatiana's journey and mental health struggles through the lens of her Pisces astrology sign and the duality it represents. For a deep dive on the topic of her mental health and chronic depression, she did a text interview with Psychology Today that is available online, and the song Pit Of Consciousness echoes those themes, though it was based on a poem from when she was a teenager and fortunately it seems that stuff has mellowed out a bit since then. I take "scale armor blaze" as being about the hard exterior she shows the world, and possibly especially her brilliantly mesmerizing onstage persona. I've been lucky enough to see them perform twice. The technique sounds so unnatural because it is a different part of the vocal anatomy from what we are used to hearing, the vestibular folds instead of the vocal folds. For more background on growls, I'd suggest either watching a couple of reactions by The Fairy Voice Mother, the first being to Pisces where she explains the technique in detail, and the other being Electric Callboy's Hypa Hypa where she gives a friend a quick tutorial on the technique, and/or the video by The Charismatic Voice putting an endoscope in the throat of Will Ramos of Lorna Shore. I'd add that growls reflect the singer's personality very strongly, and Tatiana has a pronounced tomboy side that comes out very powerfully in her growls. These aren't her lowest growls btw. :D One of their most intense songs is Home Back, about their hometown being caught up in the 2014 war that set the stage for the present invasion. It speaks powerfully for the millions of ordinary people caught in the middle of every war around the world, not just theirs. It'a also a good video for understanding how effective growls can be artistically. I'd love to see her cover Adele's "Set Fire To The Rain" growling the chorus, just saying. A few videos that are a bit easier to stomach than Home Back are Perennial live at Wacken (the OMV is awesome too, and some have done double features), Judgement & Punishment one take, Teacher Teacher official, and I Speak Astronomy official. Since you'll have a hard time understanding the growling sections, maybe do the lyrics part first and then react to the video? Anyway, subbed. Cheers!

[@HWaii]

That was fun to watch! 😀 Do you know that Floor Jansen can also growl? It is rarely used in Nightwish but she does it in her former band Revamp. Disdain live at Graspop is a good example. As you do not like screaming that much, you could also check out "Face your Demons live" that Floor did on her Solo concert in Amsterdam.

[@ellie.v9765]

😂😂 I've seen so many reactions to this video and this was awesome! Lmao your candor is so refreshing and fun 😃 you remind me of myself 30 years ago 😏 all the best for you ❤️🇨🇦

[@jonrogers1497]

"that drummer..." He wasn't even a drummer up til this band. Nuts.

[@stefanoguiducci6703]

I can only say I listen to this song AT LEAST TWICE A DAY !

[@theMadMan74]

Great reaction and analysis. If you decide to check out more, the singer's Judgement and Punishment one-take live performance shows off her effortlessness transitions over a reggae-meets-metal tune.

[@panchiolarranaga1616]

Rosalie what a great reaction have a great Sunday beautiful lady u made my day

[@michaelbradley6488]

Nice reaction, I admit that I did not listen to any Metal until I heard this band, they are amazing. Tatiana says that she has two voices, I agree.

[@Deb-ex9st]

Everybody needs to stop guessing how she makes that growl you need to watch the interview with her on the charismatic voice

[@SDThondas]

Hey Rosalie, I love your vibes/positivity when breaking down these vids. You are one of the genuine ones out there imo. Hope you keep doing what you want to do. GGs. My suggestion for a review would absolutely have to be: Lovebites Shadowmaker, I still cant believe how nuts this song is... if it has been done already, I'm sure I'll find it, if not, it really needs to be done from you. I look forward to it. 😁

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

thanks so much. i appreciate it. making a note of your suggestion.

[@nickgillingham5575]

Rosalie first of I highly, Extremely recommend watching the interview that Tatiana did with Elizabeth over at the Charismatic Voice (she's an vocal coach and opera singer and its an almost 2 hr video). This Song was recorded live. Tatiana's astrological sign is Pisces and the song was based on the Duality of the Sign. The armored scales is Fish Scales. And the last verse your correct on is fishing and fish mongering (emeralds has to do with scales as well) Hiya from Southern Ontario Canada Stay well!!

[@blastingweevil2968]

everyone is allways shocked by tati's vocals but you cannot miss just How Excellent the Rest of the band is soooo damn tight.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

very valid. true!

[@BabylonZeus]

On today's metal scene, she has one of the most impressive voice range and styles of singing. Her growl is very deep. For growling women, I can see only Auré (the singer from the band Akiavel) who can also reach this depth.

[@godimlarge]

It’s like Jinjer was a jazz band that added an electric guitar and Tatiana said “oh, we’re doing metal now, alright” and their drummer was like “I will not be outshined!”

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Haha!

[@Belfastchild1974]

I have been a metal head for about 40 years, just celebrated my 48th birthday last week with two shows from the Vikings and Lionhearts tour in Budapest, Hungary (on my actual birthday), and Stuttgart, Germany four days later. I really can appreciate how you are not a fan of metal, but still are open to listen to it and give your honest reaction. I used to not like the screaming/growling, until the late 90s/early 00s, which is when I started to be open for some different styles and also started to pay more attention to what songs were really about. While even after 40 years, I still find it difficult when I don't know the background of the song, to like it if I can't understand the lyrics, I know that in metal there is generally a reason to be angry and that's expressed in the music, and once you understand the background, the growls become a vital part rather than an obstruction.

[@rosalieelliottofficial]

Happy belated Birthday! :) thank you for your comment. I'm learning more and more.

[@mrbraden_7780]

I swear anytime I see someone react to this group and this song.....I immediately watch just to see people freak 🤣

[@jamesdenton3725]

Tati has this Dr. Jekyll/Mrs. Hyde quality to her... being sweet and lulling and then flipping like a janus-head into something that casually and gleefully just shreds you to pieces... I can't help myself but when she transitions this line from Disturbeds' "Down with the sickness" just keeps flashing in my mind "...Now that you've woken up the demon in me..."

[@scotane7753]

Awesome reaction,,kudos for discussing the lyrics :)

[@gillesbouvier5176]

Well done ! You passe the test.

[@billtbodger]

I listen to this song and from an interview with Tatiana started to look at the song from the point of view of a fish, the way they are hunted (not just by humanity) Neptune was the god of the seas, the duality of the song makes the way she sings more logical. Rock and Heavy metal has always dealt with the human condition, love/hate, all the differing emotions we go through in life and haw they can have positive and negative effects on us, I have been listening to Heavy Rock and Metal since I was about 8 so 50 years and still listen to it, I also love music that goes into the dystopian world and futuristic nightmares (basically since 1978) When I first heard Gary Numan and Ultravox, not so guitar heavy but just as heavy in it themes, Especially Gary Numan.

[@danieln6700]

her normal singing voice is so great, the vibe of this song as a normal song would be great. Love her screaming

[@christopherwashburn8163]

Scale armor belies virgin innocence. The scale armor makes her look tough, when in fact she is sensitive and vulnerable.

[@JPiolunek]

If you want a fun dive into Jinjer, she does a 1 take called Judgement & Punishment. She does 3 voices. Scream, reggae, & actually a beautiful feminine heavy metal lead

[@XXXCRSPL]

Listen to the way she says shivering sounds like she's shivering before she sings that word so incredibly talented they all are!! This was supposed to welcome Vlad in but Tati had other plans lol Incredible Analysis Thanks for explaining the lyrics in depth!!

[@mitchellhartman6205]

you got through it , congratulations... Tatiana is an incredible singer and can switch on a dime. The band members are really good as well. Maybe you need to watch a live performance. again thank you for getting through it!

[@Robertsmith-dy3sh]

Awesome Reaction, Welcome to the world of Jinjer, this is fun journey and I hope you enjoy it!