Expert reveals what Palestinians really think of Hamas

[@yulske]

What this video is missing is while the majority of Gazans do not support the Hamas goernment in terms of governance and institution, they do support attacks on Israel and consider the people perpetrating these attacks as heroes

[@sagielevy]

sadly this is true.

[@perpetualrabbit]

This is horrible indeed, if it is true. I doubt it is a majority who feels this way. But even if true, it is very easy to see where this hatred comes from. Decades of oppression and killings by the Israelis tends to have this effect. I doubt many of the enlightent readership of this channel would feel any different towards the Israelis if they happened to live in Gaza or the West Bank for any length of time. It is a miracle that peace activists on both sides even exist. Doubly so because on both sides peace activists and journalists critical on their respective governments are routinely (violently) arrested just for expressing an opinion.

[@crystal2484]

stop lying, no Palestinian has come out to speak against Hamas on Oct 7th so please don't delude us, we are not blind!!!!!

[@yulske]

re-read what i wrote and try to understand that you actually agree with me@@crystal2484

[@FUnzzies1]

​@@perpetualrabbitreally trying hard to cope there

[@jimheath4200]

A people raised on hate and revenge never goes well.

[@Moshe_Dayan44]

And now, finally, Israel will have to teach their children, for the first time, that the Arab Muslims are their fundamental enemies. This was brought on by the ignorance and anti-Semitism in the rest of the world, not understanding that the Jews are the ancient, indigenous people of Judea/Israel, and not the Arabs. The Arabs are the colonizers, who only showed up 1,800 years after the Jews had set up a thriving civilization there. The unwillingness to accept this simple truth is responsible for this terrible situation. Believing Arab lies and backing up those lies with a separate, Palestinian-only refugee system, which no other group of refugees have is the proof of the funadmentally prejudiced view of most of the world.

[@orlandomontfort5101]

Muslims

[@topdamagewizard]

Sounds like Israel to me. They are the one with a racist etho-state.

[@DCSP-ke1ek]

That is exactly the problem with Islam. It is a violent cult formulated for political gains.

[@synewparadigm]

" racist etho-state"? Friendly reminder there are NO Jews in Gaza, but yet there are 1.2 million Arabs living peacefully in Israel, have Israeli citizenship, and some of them are serving for the IDF and fighting against Hamas right now as I type this comment, they even have 2 muslim judges in the supreme court that put the israeli president and a prime minister in prison. @@topdamagewizard

[@NicholasTattersfield-ry6ok]

There always was a second state, its called Jordan but the Jordanians kicked out the palistinians because they tried to start a civil war.

[@paulamarsh1]

I understand parts of Lebanon and Syria are also considered Palestine.

[@suezbell1]

In Jordan, as I understand it, there are still Palestinians living in refugee camps -- people that never integrated into society; however, I believe Jordan's Queen is Palestinian.

[@hanawolfgang]

Liar

[@jaybelle1909]

​@@hanawolfgang hey dumb dumb... the land the British called "Palestine" was caved into half where Jordan kept over half the area and jews only a sliver of it and of their 3k historic nation... majority of "palistinians" before the split were Jordanians... ppl of Gaza are Egyptians... ppl of "westbank" are mostly Arabs from Arabia proper sides Jordanians and Syrians... ppl in the north are mostly Lebanese and Jordanians... all so called "Palestinians" of today are in no way native to Israeli lands and the majority of them entered after jews returned not before... returning jews did not steal lands and for countless reasons sides per basic rules of war Israel owns all that land and has claims to others... FYI jews are the real palistinians thus where the bane comes from; muslim foreigners only adopted the bane in 1966 with help from kgb as jews dropped the name when their historic nation was restored... go study actual history

[@waterkingdavid]

​@@hanawolfgangMisleading at the very least

[@iceshakle]

So why were they celebrating on October 7th? They knew the price they would pay.

[@gloriajohnson3865]

Yes that part 🤣

[@吴文安]

以色列人也会在他们轰炸加沙的时候庆祝，一边吃爆米花一边观赏，谁也不要指责谁。

[@albertsmit9741]

because they are low iq intolerant believers of a medievel religion

[@i.sodeikat8397]

No, the common citizens probably didn't know or couldn't imagine what's coming up.

[@rutharusi394]

You think? Every time they sent too many rockets they get air strikes. So after killing more than thousand and kidnapping others doing atrocities to others and …. They should know the answer would be more than harsh. Too much resemblance to the holocaust

[@ariebesserman3746]

Meanwhile hamas leaders are all billionaires ..not millionaires....

[@hebrew1214]

They are billionaires enjoying life with their families out of Gaza.

[@byzughtfarnault2519]

​@@hebrew1214sure Mister apartheid lover Lol

[@ColinReardon-vi7um]

@@byzughtfarnault2519Can’t accept the truth

[@planmet]

And the fact that they are billionaires is one of the reasons why Hamas is losing its support, It must be eating into those ordinary Palestinians getting poorer and poorer each year.

[@byzughtfarnault2519]

@@ColinReardon-vi7um What true? About people thinking they superior race and can do to other what they do not want other do to them? We had 1 like that before inveurope Name was adolf hither U know what happens to him? If u do not know then Google it No superior race We all equal

[@motherofone979]

Not supporting Hamas does not necessarily mean not supporting actions like theirs or an acceptance of Israel's existence

[@pwd4User]

Yup

[@thevitruvianman9781]

True

[@sagielevy]

Exactly, and that’s a large part of the problem

[@sparticale1954]

Did that poll include all Palestinians in the UK? Ah, that's where they went!

[@richardcory5024]

Perhaps this is a case of "buyers' remorse." One can only say that the Palestinians of Gaza actually voted Hamas in to office. If you thought voting Boris Johnson into power was a bad idea in the UK, then this was a thousand times worse!

[@RajashekarGudapaty]

Don't try too hard. The fact of the matter is every gazans qre hamas sympathisers and they cheered and celebrated on October 7th. Full stop!

[@trevaudio]

Well, aren’t you a bare faced liar !

[@BillyMandalay]

Yup.

[@RonnieWalters-jd9nm]

Total truth

[@anakatana777]

I'm still waiting for those few gazans who don't actually agree with Hamas...

[@TheExplorer-e1j]

And how many IDF cheer long before October 7? Just have a look at previous Jerusalem Flag Day Marches what they cheered about Arabs and the Nakba. And as for India, the Hindus need to stop forcibly converting Christians from their religion, merdring Christians and Mislims and stop the pandemic of grape by Hindus. What do you know - Israel and India both have a grape pandemic and want to lecture about morality of others.

[@0007Donald]

These numbers conflict with a different survey that was done in March 2023, in which they found that 61% of the Gaza population support Hamas, 57.2% support armed action, and 73.7% say their security in Gaza is assured by Hamas. I find it unlikely that the sentiment in Gaza against Hamas changed so quickly prior to the October 7th attack in which 1400 civilians were slaughtered in Israel. The "Palestinian Center for Policy & Survey Research" surveyed Palestinian civilians, asking the following questions in its latest publication. Question: "If new presidential elections are to take place today, and Mahmud Abbas was nominated by Fateh and Ismail Haniyeh was nominated by Hamas, whom would you vote for?" Gaza population: 61% Ismael Haniyyah (Hamas) 35% Mahmud Abbas 4% Don't know/NA West bank population: 43% Ismael Haniyyah (Hamas) 37% Mahmud Abbas 20% Don't know/NA p.s. the Hamas regime has not held elections since 2006 Question: "Would you say that these days your security and safety, and that of your family, is assured or not assured?" Gaza population: 19.8% Completely assured 53.9% Assured 20.2% Not assured 5.6% Not assured at all .4% DK/NA West Bank population: 3.9% Completely assured 53.7% Assured 34.3% Not assured 8% Not assured at all .1% DK/NA Question: "In your view, what is the best means of ending the occupation?" Gaza population: Armed action 57.2% Peaceful popular resistance 22.4% Negotiations 17.4% Other .9% DK/NA 2.1% West Bank population: Armed action 45.2% Peaceful popular resistance 22.8% Negotiations 22.7% Other 3.1% DK/NA 6.1% p.s. Iternational law holds that a new country inherits the borders of the prior geopolitical unit in that territory. Israel was preceded by the League of Nations Mandate for Palestine, whose borders included Gaza and the West Bank. So according to international law there is no illegal occupation. Sadly there are refugees and casualties in every war. Did you know that since 1948 more Jews in Arab countries were displaced than Palestinians due to the Arabs attack on Israel in 1948? 856,000 Jews vs 726,000 Palestinians were displaced. Where is the UNWRA for the Jewish refugees? There is none because those people moved forward and chose to be survivors, rather than victims - like the Palestinian people in Gaza. This survey shows that many of the Palestinian people still support Hamas, who will be removed from Gaza by the IDF. What matters moving forward is what leadership the Gazan’s choose. Will they choose terror or peace. Their future is in there hands. If they choose a group that vows to destroy the “occupier” they will have signed off yet again on the death of thousands of Palestinians, because terrorist will continue to incite hate and attack Israel, and the IDF will continue to defend Israeli civilians, and their will be Palestinian casualties because Hamas shoots rockets from Hospitals and schools and uses the Palestinians as human shields. Sadly, just like the 1400 civilians killed in Israel on October 7th are never coming back, and like the 6 million Jews killed in the holocaust are never coming back, so too the possibility of the Palestinians returning to live in Israel is never going to happen. When Arabs around the world learn to accept this painful truth, we can start talking about peace. Till then, the Palestinians are perpetuating their own suffering.

[@nsevv]

Hamas is russian backed proxy. Palestinian don't like atheist russia.

[@gillps5130]

And why was the war. Jews began expulsion of the Palestinians at the end of 1947.

[@WhizzingFish12]

This is 100% spot on. It IS interesting that no one seems to understand that Israel is just as legal a nation as any of the Arab ones or that just as many Jews were violently expelled from Arab nations as were Arabs expelled from Israel after the 1948 war.

[@asia89572]

@@WhizzingFish12so you want to publish Palestinian for the actions of Germany’s and Europe and Arabs? Also you writing Arabs won’t make Palestinians go away,

[@andy_s_8982]

based

[@johnkohsamui6826]

It is impossible for Gazans to be poor after the billions of dollars they have received in aid. There can be only one reason. 500km of tunnels constructed, 8,000 millisles paid for and 5 billion dollars in the private bank account of Hamas leader, Khaled Mashal.

[@ileanamuntean7338]

.....leaving in Qatar and London.

[@suezbell1]

Exactly. No more aid should go to Gaza unless and until all of the population of Gaza openly rejects Hamas.. if then.

[@Flowerwork7Seraphine]

Exactly!🙏🏻💜🇬🇧💜🌏💜

[@jrYoutube1]

@@LapinDebogueshamas wasn’t meant to be a terror organisation.. duhh 😵‍💫

[@LapinDebogues]

@@jrKZbin1 fact is Netanyahu supported Hamas and they knew right off the bat that they were terrorist because Israel blockaded them to prevent weapons. Bibi supported Hamas because he wanted to split the Palestinians against each other - read it duhh!

[@AdamKover]

Still more than a quarter, almost a third of Gazan's support Hamas and less than a half have no confidence. That is a lot of support for Hamas. It is much more support that what Benjamin Netanyahu has. Also a lot of Palestinians support even more extreme groups like the Islamic Jihad and others, so the Palestinian people do have responsibility. I always see crowds of Palestinians celebrating when horrible things happen to Israel or America.

[@philip5940]

We saw celebration first hour or so after twin towers incident. Then they denied that they had celebrated many more hours later.

[@thewkovacs316]

@@philip5940 they went farther than that....they claimed the vids were from another event

[@marlipamplona3203]

De um bom motivo para palestinos apoiarem Nethanyahu.

[@effexon]

can be all kinds of opinions of Netanyahu but I guess you would agree Biden vs his style of leader in these times leading country is a bit better.

[@projekcja]

Hamas security forces moved quickly to quell the protests that brought hundreds of people into the streets in at least four camps and towns across Gaza in march 2019 to demand better living conditions. The security forces beat demonstrators, raided homes and detained organizers, journalists and participants, about 1,000 people in all. Along with the uniformed officers, masked, plainclothes Hamas enforcers armed with pistols, batons and wooden rods attacked the protesters, according to witnesses, and prevented journalists and human rights workers from documenting the events. Since then, many Gazans say they have been living under a pall of fear - not of Israel this time but of Hamas.

[@ahutflesz2425]

Hammas is the elected government of Gaza. Let them take care of their citizens rather than just trying to use all resources for military operations. They knew what the Israeli response would be, and yet took no steps to stock up on food, water,fuel for the civilian population, whilst having enough of these supplies for Hammas fighters.

[@TheKris333]

It's a terrorist "government" - a serious oxymoron. Someone made the contrast that Israel uses rockets to protect its people, Hamas uses people to protect its rockets. 😢

[@richardtjan4757]

Their are an occupation regime, using funds for the people for their own.

[@Southern.Az.Retiree]

"Let them?" I agree... they SHOULD be. But they don't, and it sounds like an overwhelming number of the Gazan residents DON'T want Hamas governing them, based on what we just heard from this interviewee. That was MY take on it anyway.

[@ahutflesz2425]

Hammas was elected by Gazans around 2006 or so, and has been re-elected ever since (if you believe in their election process/integrity). So if a majority of Gazans are against Hammas, why are they still in power? My opinion it’s a terrorist state.

[@puffin51]

There is no prospect at all of Hamas doing that. They are a political organisation only in the sense that they actually control a political unit - Gaza. But their objectives have nothing to do with governing for the benefit of the people there. Rather, Hamas is a military wing of a religious movement, the Islamic Brotherhood. Their objectives are the destruction of Israel and the elimination of all Jews, then to establish Palestine, then to re-form the Caliphate, and eventually to conquer the entire world for Islam. Good governance, the provision of basic services, or even the survival of the people of Gaza, are simply irrelevant to Hamas. Expecting them to behave in any other way than as they have been is simply unrealistic.

[@larryjackson6075]

They danced in the streets on Oct 7.

[@joshua-nf3rx]

So 20 percent support Hamas That’s about 400,000 people The rest of the population you said wants something peaceful. How many of them want the entire of Israel to become Palestinije but want it done peacefully - lots That leaves how many who actually want to live with Jews peacefully Cmon man Gaza is a disaster

[@apzzpa]

We have Israel to thank for that sadly

[@pinky8167]

​@@apzzpa Trying to distil this conflict down to a simple "Palestinians commit atrocities because Israel failed them" is like trying to describe a photograph without using most colors, nouns, and shapes. Why hasn't Egypt taken refugees from Gaza, why has so much aid gone to war over its intended purpose, how does so much military hardware get stored in public areas without being discovered. This and many more questions need to be asked before saying Israel is at fault for the current situation.

[@RonnieWalters-jd9nm]

ISRAEL 🇮🇱🇺🇸🇮🇱🇺🇸

[@apzzpa]

@@RonnieWalters-jd9nm Hasbara bot

[@luisacleaves9592]

Gaza has always been a disaster as well as Palestine; 75 years of what? Building a terrorist zone and living in squalor!

[@alangardner8596]

Gaza has a multitude of problems and every single one of them has been self inflicted.

[@liadx2672]

Arab barometer, you must ask in your surveys among those who support a two state solution. "Do you see a two state solution as a permanent deal or as a first step towards one Palestinian state on all the land. When that is asked, you see that Palestinians do not see a two state solution as a way for peace. But as a path for gaining their real wish the destruction of Israel in stages.

[@liadx2672]

Past surveys show very few Palestinians actually want a two state solution to be the end of the conflict.

[@netdragon256]

My bet is they should have asked more specific questions. Obviously, history shows that a two-state solution has not been feasible. I think a confederation is more popular amongst young people who don't carry the same hatred (as I saw when I went to Israel and the West bank). The thing is that the Israeli government would have to give the palestinians citizenship and be willing to accept a much larger representation of arab members of the knesset.

[@liadx2672]

@@netdragon256 Palestinians demand a "right of return" for 1948 refugees, as part of a two state solution, meaning. One judenfrei (free of Jews) Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Banks. And another Israel which would be flooded with millions of Palestinians from Gaza Jordan Lebanon and so on making it an Arab majority state and basically a second Palestine.

[@byzughtfarnault2519]

Or maybe they just want a state to be Will u no want a state to be? Sorry i forget I guess u have a state to be

[@byzughtfarnault2519]

​@@liadx2672engish colonialism stole land Then give it to people from all over the world who belong to 1 religion No matter about the people who live there thousand of years I guess u will think diferent if it was ur country Am i right?

[@MegaBob222222]

The problem with the two state solution is Gaza is an example of the two state solution. Israel gave Gaza to the "Palestinians" and removed all Jews and the Gaza citizens voted 80% for Hamas and look at the example. Gaza could have been another Tel Aviv with no borders and no constant rockets flying to Israel. Israel supplies water even now at this minute and supplied electricity free of charge because Hamas does not pay. The UN supplies textbooks to the Gaza children (USA tax dollars at work) that teach hatred for the Jews. Defund the UN. The Gaza residents cheer when the rockets fly to Israel, They also cheered 9/11 when the trade towers came down in NY/NY. A two state solution is off the board for ever. The reason the Gaza citizens support two state solution is because of the propaganda. These talking heads in this video is just spouting propaganda when they continually sing TWO STATE SOLUTION.

[@incurableromantic4006]

Exactly - there's no reason at all why Gaza couldn't have been an Arabic Singapore. But they chose to turn it into nothing but a terrorist camp.

[@effexon]

lol I have to pay my electric and water and rent living on benefits in west "rich country" so they are living beyond rich then. I thought communism died in 1990 with soviet union as china hasnt been nowhere near that communist for decades.

[@apzzpa]

The problem Bob is in your second sentence. Gaza was not theirs to give. Israel are a bunch of Europeans who tried to create a nationalist state in a land which wasn't theirs. They were backed by the British and then went from 5% of land to almost 60% in 1948. Nobody asked the Arab population if this was what they wanted. Meanwhile Israeli settlers are forcing Palestinians from their land and Israel has created a ghetto. What do you think happens when you continually oppress people and given the chance to vote for a party like the PLO who are political or Hamas who promise to fight for your freedom? What do you think people will choose when generations of their family have been harassed, killed, tortured and taken hostage and forced from their land? Of course they voted for those who said they will fight. Israel in fact backed Hamas and it was leaked in 2019 that Netayanhu said that Hamas was good for Israel. Saying they offer them free water and electricity is an insult and wilfully ignorant of the situation. Honestly it's people like you who eat up the propaganda of Israel to be made as the good guys and the poor victims when they are thugs.

[@incurableromantic4006]

@@apzzpa "Israel are a bunch of Europeans" 1. Actually a vast number of them are Jews from middle eastern countries who were driven out by anti-Semitic governments in the 40s and needed somewhere safe. When are you going to demand their "right of return"? Or does the door only ever swing one way? 2. The Jews were living in that part of the world for a millennium before Islam even *existed* 3. *All* Islamic countries outside the Arabian peninsular were conquered and converted at sword point. They are in *no* position to lecture anyone on "stolen land". 4. The Palestinians were offered their own nation on FIVE occasions. And five times, they rejected it because it would mean accepting Israel's right to exist. 5. At almost the exact same time as the founding of Israel - Hindus were being forced out of Pakistan, Germans were being forced out of Prussia, and Greek Cypriots were being forced out of Northern Cyprus. There have been a dozen more such examples since then. Why do you *only* care about this one? Is it something about Jewish people that especially gets your goat I wonder. . . . . .

[@loucanterbury2359]

You are spot on. They also hire them in their own country and some of those workers share the barbarism of October 7 th God

[@niceforkinmove]

I’m not sure I would assume everyone calling for a one state solution is advocating a peaceful solution.

[@laniVargas-iy3lg]

No they will not accept that specially that place is city of terrorist…

[@motherofone979]

They definitely aren't.

[@SailToTheMoon6719]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

Of course not. This pollster's agenda is to manipulate data to appear as if Gazans overwhelmingly support a peaceful solution. The trick is simple: divide Hamas supporters into two options: the method ("armed resistance") and the goal ("one state", meaning eradicating Israel), then misleadingly aggregate the goal-option data with "peaceful options".

[@Southern.Az.Retiree]

Exactly 😢 I believe you're 💯% correct on that.

[@BauAuslese]

I am afraid, a Palestinian state would never be independant, it would always be on "life support" and in a constant economical coma - not much different to the present situation. It is only the hate that unites the people. Otherwise it is a fiction of the International Community which does not seem to be seriously interested in that new state.

[@theophilusodafi2]

New state where?

[@paulamarsh1]

Why are western countries trying to help Palestine become a free state while no Arab or Muslim countries are supporting this ?

[@dorothyparr5416]

Have you any basis for saying this or is it merely an uninformed opinion.

[@BauAuslese]

@@dorothyparr5416 Have been flooded constantly with information about Palestine for the past 50 years and am still capaple of formulating an unimformed opinion. Apparently, stupidity has no limits ...

[@theophilusodafi2]

@@dorothyparr5416 if you have nose, use it for the purpose

[@aldinlee8528]

A separate state in Palestine/Samaria/Galilee/Judea specific to the Arabs who've taken the name Palestinian, for lack of any other identity, is no longer palatable. After over 100 years of Arab/Muslim atrocities against Jewish residents, and time and again the willingness of the Jews to recognize borders giving Palestinians/Arabs a sovereign state, separate from their own, offers that were roundly rejected by Arab leadership in favor of continued warfare against the Israelis, the time has come to FREE Israel/Palestine of those who do not wish to live in a secular society with a democratic political system, free from a majority who believe in Islamic law and Jihad.

[@antonioarroyas7662]

So how would you deal with the West Bank?

[@suezbell1]

Now that it is possible to "green" the dessert, Islamic/Arab nations need to do so in their nations for a state of Palestine if they want one so very badly. There is a reason Egypt did not want Gaza when it made a deal for getting the Sinai back.

[@aldinlee8528]

Yes, one other possibility among a few@@suezbell1. 'American' youth who have zero life experience with living among populations who inspire violence against them for their very existence, need to first chant "From the mountains to the Sea, America must be Free." The United States was created by surges of immigration from Europe. They took the land of Americans, often slaughtering them, and still hold that land today. America is an Italian name, Palestine is a Greek name. Let's compare the history of Englishmen creating the U.S., a land that they'd never resided in, with that of the Jews recreating the state of Israel, a land they'd once fully populated and ruled, a land holding the origin of their religion, a land forcefully taken from them.

[@susanlee835]

Perfectamente de acuerdo. Si mantienen esa mentalidad se reagruparán nuevamente y abastecerán creando un nuevo frente de ataque a Israel. Definitivamente son ya personas q les han sido lavadas las cabezas desde pequeños y será muy difícil convivir con personas que crecieron con ODIO A LOS JUDIOS Y CON ESA CONVICCIÓN DE Q ISRAEL NO DEBE EXISTIR.

[@susanlee835]

Perfectamente de acuerdo. Si mantienen esa mentalidad se reagruparán nuevamente y abastecerán creando un nuevo frente de ataque a Israel. Definitivamente son ya personas q les han sido lavadas las cabezas desde pequeños y será muy difícil convivir con personas que crecieron con ODIO A LOS JUDIOS Y CON ESA CONVICCIÓN DE Q ISRAEL NO DEBE EXISTIR.

[@dittspoke4400]

State of democracy in Gaza? What democracy are you talking about? There is no democracy in Gaza!

[@mmccbb7mcb278]

The tragedy for the Palestinians is they have been failed by their leaders. What has the aid money given achieved? Where are the institutions the infrastructure for a free and open state? Where human rights are the norm. Where there is freedom of speech, expression, assembly, association, assembly and religious tolerance and open and free elections. Their leaders have enriched themselves. And as such the Palestinians have forfeited the right to a state forever.

[@anyazubova1518]

Is there any Arab state having all this? Rhetorical question)

[@Southern.Az.Retiree]

"mmccbb" ....I could not have said this any better. 👏 Bravo! You took the words straight out of my mouth, and I couldn't agree more.

[@richardcory5024]

Who says the Palestinians actually wanted "a free and open state"?

[@BabyFruitBat]

They have been failed by their religion.

[@incurableromantic4006]

The great mistake made in Iraq in 2003 was in assuming it was just "the leaders" who were the problem - not a complex web of ethnic hatreds that are wholly incompatible with western democratic norms: and their leadership reflected that reality. And we have now imported that web of hatreds into Europe. . . . . . .

[@Elisa-ul2we]

Your survey is at odds with other surveys. I heard that the split is between under and over fifties, which rings true to me, given the generational split on many subjects. The suggestion is that most under 50s would vote for Hamas in Gaza and surprisingly in the West Bank. There are also reports that civilians joined Hamas in the massacre, as well as celebrating when it was reported. Sounds like Arabs being less than honest according to who's asking, and frankly I don't believe a word they say.

[@amychen5777]

they have 300 Miles tunnel, 7k rockets, why give them more?

[@MAKESQ]

The Israeli/Egyptian blockade of Gaza still allowed for the free importation of food and even luxury goods. Many Gazans lived very well indeed as any number of videos of Gaza will show.

[@Jared_Albert]

Nice apartments, heat pump air conditioning, on the Mediterranean, with tree lined Blvd s and no need to work given the welfare state

[@01karmacop]

Remember all the Palestine cheering hamas when they paraded the hostages its on KZbin

[@dennislevy3603]

Yes, strong support and celebration, and no Palestinian concern that this might not be a good thing. Evidently the same thing happened at the 1929 Hebron Massacre, also motivated by a fake accusation about Al Aqsa mosque.

[@thevitruvianman9781]

@@dennislevy3603Nah some gazaouis left their homes immediately as they knew what was coming

[@garyjohnstone6422]

there is no such thing as an innocent Gazaan civilian

[@RonnieWalters-jd9nm]

💯💯💯

[@rollingthunder4]

You have to go to London for real support 😂 As our Capital city now houses more non-Brits than indigenous tax-paying citizens and hosts an autocratic Muslim as the Mayor is anyone surprised? The writing is on the wall folks and Israel is the Canary so ignore at your peril.....

[@spikodemiko5514]

Spot on. Couldn’t agree more

[@albertsmit9741]

Amsterdam .Rotterdam same situation, i think it will be Amsterdamistan and Rotterdamistan in about 15 years,

[@rollingthunder4]

The Beautiful South even predicted it in a song ;-)@@albertsmit9741

[@AZBCDE]

Well they did elect Hamas to govern Gaza so Palestinians only have themselves to blame

[@romangroysman5204]

Maybe they got 81 million votes and they didn’t actually elect them

[@DocNick68]

Would you be to blame for the actions of a government you elected in 2006 that then refused ever to have another election?

[@Story_Fuel]

There haven’t been elections for 17 years. We all make mistakes and are misled by politicians when high on emotion. Look at our nation the UK. We elected a bunch of morally corrupt Etonians,

[@swarming1092]

Are American citizens legitimate targets because they elected the war criminal George W Bush who began the criminal Iraq War?

[@FontaineDerby]

Before the Jan 2006 election, Hamas toned down its manifesto to make them more appealing to the electorate by announcing that it would refrain from attacks on Israel if Israel were to desist from its offensive against Palestinian towns and villages. Its election manifesto dropped the Islamic agenda, spoke of sovereignty for the Palestinian territories, including Jerusalem (an implicit endorsement of the two-state solution), while conceding nothing about its claims to all of Palestine. Most Palestinians have never voted in any election, let alone voted for Hamas. 52.3% of Palestinians are under 18, most of whom were not even born when the last election was held in Jan 2006. Hamas won the election in Jan 2006 with 44% of the vote compared to Fatah's 41%. 56% did not vote for Hamas. In the course of the June 2007 Battle of Gaza, Hamas exploited the near total collapse of Palestinian Authority forces in Gaza to militarily seize control of Gaza by force (600 dead), ousting Fatah officials. Hamas militants seized several Fatah members and threw one of them, Mohammed Sweirki, an officer in the elite Presidential Guard, off the top of the tallest building in Gaza, a 15-story apartment building. Amnesty International's report from 2015/16 in Gaza, Hamas military courts continued to convict defendants in unfair trials, sentencing some to death. Torture and other ill-treatment of detainees remained common and was committed with impunity by Palestinian police and other security forces in the West Bank, and Hamas police and other security forces in Gaza.24 Feb 2016. On 30 July and 4 August, thousands of Gazans took to the streets to protest as reported in the Times of Isreal, Jerusalem Post, Associated Press, New York Times, Le Monde. Hamas brutally suppressed these protests. Hamas has not held any elections since then. No elections for over SEVENTEEN YEARS. According to the latest Washington Institute polling, conducted in July 2023: Hamas’s decision to break the ceasefire was not a popular move. While the majority of Gazans (65%) did think it likely that there would be “a large military conflict between Israel and Hamas in Gaza” this year, 62% supported Hamas maintaining a ceasefire with Israel, 50% agreed with the following proposal: “Hamas should stop calling for Israel’s destruction, and instead accept a permanent two-state solution based on the 1967 borders.” Moreover, across the region, Hamas has lost popularity over time among many Arab publics. This decline in popularity may have been one of the motivating factors behind the group’s decision to attack. 73% believed the Hamas government to be corrupt. Yet, Gazans saw little hope for electoral change. With no election since 2006, a majority of Gazans alive today were not old enough to have voted for Hamas.

[@succatash]

The lack of advancement. They Palestinans were given the 2 state in 2008 and turned it down.

[@Telencephelon]

The survey is completely irrelevant and I tell you why. There are a lot of families who will have a member in Hamas. Most in those families may in a spur of a moment say something against Hamas, also feeling protected since there have an insider there. But when push comes to shove of course these families will stick around and stick with their blood. And in fact we can see this now, which is why despite strong warnings for two weeks almost all Gazans did not evacuate the city.

[@teblack2]

Evac where? They can not leave the Gaza, and the lower half dosen't have even half the houses that the north. Not to mention that Israel bomb the two halfs either way

[@rutharusi394]

They are not allowed to leave. I saw pictures of people gunned down while leaving north Gaza. And on the other hand there is the phone call of one of the terrorists to his parents. They cheered him on after he reported to them how many Jews he killed. His mother expressed that she would like to join the “party”.

[@Telencephelon]

​@@rutharusi394 Yes. But we are 9 billion soon on this planet. We all have needs. Since when are we the watchdog of the world? Is your life and country so utopic and perfect that you don't have any IMPORTANT domestic issues? Honestly I think the Palestinians in our countries are a higher priority than the ones in Palestine. This was directly after the attacks before Israel started a counteroffensive: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWjJZH2Zjaila6s

[@Telencephelon]

@@rutharusi394 You are also forgetting that they cheered 9/11, Bataclan, London Subway bombers while we stood in solidarity with the Muslim world over the Christchurch attack.

[@rutharusi394]

@@Telencephelon That’s honorable

[@dalemcmurray-hn6sc]

I think it’s also important to point out that if you’re a Palestinian in Gaza, and you say you don’t support hammas you’ll have a mob of people attack you so a lot of this is not actually said openly and blatantly, because these people wish to keep their lives in truth❤DALE.

[@captsonko.9345]

Just like in London now.

[@Southern.Az.Retiree]

YES, Dale! That part! And I feel like it happens more often than not; that whole "Go along with the crowd" mentality, whether they agree with them or not, in order to "save face" with the Hamas militants and their REAL supporters. Honestly, I can't say that I would be, or act, any different. Continuing prayers for the innocents on both sides. 🙏 And praying for a solution, and SOON!

[@effexon]

can they go to west bank then? some say it is possible, some can get as refugees to west, some say it aint possible, but I cant say is this inconvenience or lack of motivation

[@effexon]

@@Southern.Az.Retireeeither way, gaza dont have nukes like russia, so only solution seems to eraze that place to get rid of bad governance and corruption. otherwise by your viewpoint everyone is "prisoner" of ruling party.

[@hjhsdujh]

What about all palestinians not in Gaza ? Tyey condemm hamas if pressed and hurry on to wailing about 75 years of oppression

[@Problembeing]

Well... There WAS a two state sollution, it was called 'Jordan'. Then they got a THREE state sollution, The West Bank; then a FOUR state sollution, Gaza... How many sollutions do they want? I'm guessing a 'final' one.

[@ethio7557]

The problem is not Hamas or Palestine . The problem started 1400 years ago and that hate towards Jews and Christians came with the founder of Islam.

[@everclear420]

As soon as he said that the Palestinians want a Palestinian state, he exposed himself as a dupe.

[@luisacleaves9592]

Totally, gullible or …

[@cathiehutcheson6556]

Gaza could have been a trading hub on the Mediterranean, but Hamas chose to squander all of Gaza’s money on making war on Israel rather than helping Gazans prosper.

[@solschwarz5169]

He doesn't consider the likelihood that the Palestinians DAREN'T speak up against Hamas. It's not a free society and no free speech. There was a video last week in which a woman, mourning the death of a loved one started screaming about Hamas until someone came and quickly stifled her cries

[@alexchertin3]

People of norh korea, russia, iran etc.. also support tirany

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

A lot of Iranians do not support their government.

[@TTTT-oc4eb]

Do a search on "it's all because of the Hamas dogs!". A woman blaming Hamas instead of Israel for the death of a her son.

[@danielsea0019]

He looks like same expert they had on for Virus ... btw have you seen hearings wow

[@d2vid]

She got shushed real quick, the people around her knew what happens to people who speak out against Hamas.

[@chongxina8288]

Yes. They did start a war.

[@ariebesserman3746]

Wasn't there a ceasefire on the 6th ok October?

[@waitaminute2015]

Has that been verified by translators?

[@cliff.p.resnick823]

The real reason is that Hamas is getting trashed

[@ObiePaddles]

Well there was pretty much a 2 state solution since 2005. Then hamas was voted in and here we are

[@incurableromantic4006]

By the way - Palestinians have been offered their own nation FIVE times. They're refused every time because it would have meant accepting Israel's existence.

[@gagacoco5577]

How do you explain the jubilation amongst the Palestinians on The 7th of Oct? On Sep 11 ? During the France terrorist attack? Gaza has received more money in humanitarian aid than the whole of Africa. No one should be hungry there. They could have built a beautiful place.

[@d2vid]

Say what you will about ISIS, they were perceived as less corrupt than the Iraqi government by Mosul residents. Guess Hamas truly is worse than ISIS 😂😂😂

[@robertshiell887]

Hamas has been in power for a decade or more, if ISIS was entrenched for a similar period I’m quite sure that the level of corruption in the Caliphate would be equally as severe as in Gaza.

[@effexon]

it easy to be less corrupt when there is no money... when things are peaceful and boring, thats when corruption starts to form and take root.

[@amandarooney932]

Michael Robbins falsely keeps referring to "the blockade" by Israel but this never applied to food, medicines (as the vast hospitals with command and control underneath them attest to), water (almost wholly internally produced within Gaza despite the theft of piping for missiles), electricity, which was due to be internally generated had Hamas & Islamic Jihad not stolen needed materials

[@antoniodigasparro-eldorado3830]

No al terrorismo, si alla democrazia.

[@lskourdoumpis]

By my experience as a greek; since the start of the greek nation 200 years ago, the first 150 years we were caught in a civil war. Same with the irish. Two sides of the nation fought against each other.....On the palestinian issue i see one side that wants to eliminate israel....and no other side....i don't understand what the experts say about palestinians being against hamas

[@edenposh1890]

cause the experts here are incompetent...:)

[@JustAtJesus]

Missing one meal a month is not starving. I have all I need and I miss one meal a month. There are large groups in England that miss one meal a day. This is sensationalist journalism.

[@macrick]

Maybe some donations of spam might help?

[@jeffs7915]

Remember that ancient Arab proverb "You can't change camels in mid waddi"

[@jeffboyd9301]

Large portion appear to support Hamas. Wonder if those are the ones who did not evacuate to the south of Gaza? Know it would be impossible to do but would be interesting to have follow up surveys as of today.

[@niceforkinmove]

PA is no great outfit either. It is also telling civilians to stay in the north. Is there a third option?

[@sandramullen7804]

Well considering they have ruled for 17 years , they must have quite liked hamas . Otherwise they'd have got rid before now .

[@antonioarroyas7662]

Just like the North Koreans love their leaders so much?

[@jamespier7801]

sure and the Chinese must love the Communist Party

[@tonykhoury5522]

From the river to the sea. ISRAEL will be free!!!

[@teblack2]

Israel is free, they are not inside a concrete and wire prision cell, and their independence is warranty by a lot of great powers, including USA. SO yeah, they are free

[@user-ff9ro7vp4q]

Free of Arabs.

[@PeterParker-gt3xl]

The amount of money used for military purpose could have been directed toward improving the lives of the Palestinians w/o warring against Israelis.

[@AvnerSenderowicz]

Guy has the data but he interprets it with very rosy glasses. 1. 30% support for Hamas - this is a low number? after 17 years of rule this went down only to 30 from 45 in 2006, if Arab rulers enjoyed such support they might consider actually letting people vote. 2. The leading candidate in the poll is in prison for killing civilians, not even a real option. 3. Saying you have 'no trust for government' is not the same as saying you oppose its ideology. 4. almost 20% of people take the time to write down "armed struggle" because it wasn't in the options given. I am no expert but I wonder if this guy was doing polls in 1933 in Germany what his interpretation would have been.

[@true.is.around]

Why Palestine nation not fighting now with Hamas ? Palestine nation = Hamas.

[@Agtsmirnoff]

Flawed poll, only done in person randomly asking people on the street and a relatively small sample size

[@JosephB-tv7gf]

He, he, he! The second speaker got straight into it and brings back a few memories: "And they cried out in their anger and their pain 'Set my People free!' ". It's as good today as it was in the sixties, seventies, ... Victims Я Us.

[@SwordOfApollo]

Did you ask the Palestinians what they thought about living with Jews as next-door neighbors? Frustration with Hamas does not mean "willing to live in a modern society that protects individual rights." A 2013 Pew poll found that 40% of Palestinian Muslims said that [self-ending] [exploding] civilians can be “often or sometimes justified in defense of Islam.” Not even military targets, CIVILIANS. Does that sound like a civilized population that just wants the best outcome for themselves and their children? If most Palestinians' opinions have changed dramatically in the last 10 years, they need to prove it by rising up against Hamas, en masse. Otherwise, Israel needs to do what it needs to do.

[@steph1522]

Do a poll asking what the Palestinians think should happen to the Jews in Israel and the disputed areas.

[@jokerjack21]

Palestinian and hamas has the same ideology same blood..palestinian support hamas...logic

[@olgatrilogymartin3143]

Agree

[@worldthinker565]

There is no point in such a discussion pertaining to the Islamic cult of Palestinian Arabs. Since 2005 the Gazans had full freedom to live as a state with huge free donations from UN and Western Nations. But they chose to have a terrorist govt. led by Hamas whose only job is to pilfer the foreign funds to make rockets and ammo used to daily cause attacks into Israel. The 7th October massacre is unpardonable crime. No chance for any freedom to Gazans as a state at all. Only answer is a Israeli takeover and the ejection of intolerant Muslims to neighboring Arab States. Essentially it is high time world knew that these so called Arab Palestinians are not Palestinians. They are all migrated Jordanians or Syrians.

[@dennisgreen1837]

The way the questions are worded confuses the lines between frustration with Hamas' municipal services and agreement with their opposition to the two-state solution. It doesn't matter if they don't like Hamas. It only matters to Israel whether they want a peace settlement as a permanent solution and not just a means to rearm. Those who do want peace but submit to the Hamas bullies serve no useful purpose. It will take overwhelming support for an opposition to topple them. Like all other commentaries, this one similarly fails to offer a means to that end.

[@laniVargas-iy3lg]

Suppose to be they bring in UN 9 years ago that gasa had their own state and want that of Israel in both side have peace...this is Want Israel but the problem in Palestinian and Hamas they like accept the peaceful offer…didnt accept…because Palestinian want to remove the jews in that area

[@effexon]

I find this interesting as now hamas fighters, regular gaza people, are armed and could make that choice. Those who have guns have the power, when there is no police.

[@שנישדה-ש3ל]

And one more thing that these "experts" forgot - it's all the Gazans who entered (thousands!) after the initial attack by Hamas and participated in the subsequent massacre

[@jimmeltonbradley1497]

Assuming that Palestinians in Gaza are overwhelmingly supportive of Hamas, is the same as assuming that those who loathe the Israeli government, must be anti-semitic. Both assumptions are wholly incorrect.

[@michaelw2288]

Israelis who oppose their government are not antisemitic. People outside of Israel who condemn the Israeli government far in excess of other countries national governments at war ( such as Ethiopia, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Myanmar), you have to wonder. A few dozen Yemeni people march for Yemen, a few hundred ethnic Myanmar citizens marched in London, a few dozen ethnic Tigrayan people marched for Tigray . These horrendous genocides do not stir muslims of other ethnicities to action, and only the inner professional cadres of Stop The War can be counted at these marches.

[@incurableromantic4006]

If 1/3 Gazans STILL support Hamas: that is a very, very good reason not to let them come to Europe. 1/3 is a *VAST* level of support for a party as brutal and corrupt as Hamas who have brought nothing but misery on their own people as well as Israel.

[@quink2376]

Over half of Australians have missed meals over the past few years due to cost of living . I know I have

[@timothyburke7226]

When cultural and religious beliefs allow you to lie and cheat regarding non believers you can expect lies.

[@zulmahmud5438]

Whether the Palestinians support Hamas or not does not matter. They got bombed all the same.

[@suezbell1]

When I was a teen, I had a Catholic friend with whom I was having a conversation about an experience she had -- her priest told her father about her confession. Whatever comment I made included that I wasn't religious and she told me that, from what she was taught, it wouldn't matter if I were unless I were Catholic because unless I am Catholic I cannot go to heaven. She stayed Catholic. I stayed atheist. We stayed friends because I don't care what others believe ... unless they're trying to force me to do the same and she wasn't. Religion is not a good thing. It is a DIVISIVE. Religion and its Armageddon prophecy, actually predicts that one religious group will, with the aid of their god, be able to destroy all unlike themselves in their global "end times" war. Religion, every flavor of it is a man made power tool that teaches the willful ignorance of unquestioning blind faith.

[@יואבשםטוב-פ2ו]

I am not religious, but I did take the time to learn a bit and from my knowledge, the only prophecy about the Jewish profit returning is that he will bring back to life, all Jewish people that have perished, in the islam - Sunan Abi Dawud 4324 - Battles (Kitab Al-Malahim) Allah will perish all religions except Islam. He will destroy the Antichrist and will live on the earth for forty years and then he will die. what a twisted religion

[@jamespier7801]

you are an ignoramus

[@bendenisereedy7865]

Yes it's true, Catholics think only they will go to heaven. Sounds like every other religion doesn't it!

[@davidhoban3825]

Your friend was wrong and ignorant. The Catholic church does not teach this. Most atheism, like yours, is a rejection of bad and childish religious theology and rightly so. Also, this conflict involves many factors that all fuel it - land, nationalism, ethnicity, politics as well as religion, are all used to reinforce these human prejudices. P.S. Your friend's priest broke a sacred rule in that a confession is private between the priest and the person receiving the confession. By going to the girl's father the priest has gone against all protocol.

[@LadyLeda2]

@@davidhoban3825 You are wrong. The Catholic Church does teach that you can not go to Heaven unless you are Catholic. The word catholic means "one", the one church. The only church by which you can get into Heaven. They do not preach this in western countries, because we are too educated to believe such things. But in poor countries where education is lacking they do teach this. Check out the poor in the Philippines. It is appalling what the Catholic Church is doing in that country. Shame on them that their policies allow such inhuman conditions to exist.

[@annihilator22]

And who has denied Palestinans from holding democratic elections in Gaza?

[@comptytom]

What sort of blockade supplies adversaries with power, water, hospital access, jobs, etc?

[@jaykay7180]

This is so misleading. Although many Gazans oppose Hamas for it's governing style, virtually all, support armed resistance, what we call terrorism, against Israel including against civilians.

[@theophilusodafi2]

Jerusalem remains undivided

[@luisacleaves9592]

No celebration on the streets now?? Hypocrites

[@b.benjamineriksson6030]

Israel has offered a two state solution Many times. The leaders of Palestine has always refused.

[@im1987_]

Nobody believe with Israel and US? how many wars created by them? how many million innocent people death on their hands? Do u think WW1 , WW2 are started by muslim?

[@im1987_]

Nobody believe with Israel and US..how many wars created by them? how many million innocent people death on their hands? Do u think WW1 , WW2 are started by muslim?

[@MultiMb1234]

They voted Hamas in! A survey that was done in March 2023 found that 61% of the Gaza population support Hamas, 57.2% support armed action, and 73.7% say their security in Gaza is assured by Hamas.

[@3094usmc]

There is more support for Hamas in American Universities and Congress than in Gaza. That's how backward this world has gotten.

[@true.is.around]

we not saw any palestinians with Hamas fights..

[@xvadim]

A bit late for this survey… don’t you think?

[@mrdarbab]

Give the people what they want. like Ben said. if your people let this happen then you are partly responsible for the outcome. that is why our pm won't be next year.

[@stephen2975]

It is irrelevant what the people in Gaza want! Others will decide their fate!They are just pawns.

[@suezbell1]

Hamas was able to bypass the "blockade" enough to import a lot of weapons and ammo... If only they'd used that ability for the benefit of the people of Gaza ...

[@gloriajohnson3865]

Yes that part 🤣

[@rabbi120348]

We had "peacekeepers" in S. Lebanon and we saw how completely useless they are/were. I doubt Israel would accept anything of the sort.

[@tonylavery8298]

Remember how the west said black south Africans were happy under apartheid and it was the only democracy in the area. How did that work out for you?

[@artnull13]

Incomparable conflicts on multiple levels. Let me ask you do you think a shariah state is better than a democracy? Because that is exactly what you are advocating for.

[@Toovy]

Interesting how he doesn't seem to hold Hamass accountable for the predicament the Palestinians are in

[@d_lom9253]

I'd like to see the study itself. Not his write-up of it, the actual case study

[@Arfabiscuit]

Israel protects it's civilians with rockets Hamas protects it's rockets with civilians

[@Mark-ip7oq]

Propaganda at its finest

[@terraflow__bryanburdo4547]

Cope at it's most predictable 😂

[@user-ff9ro7vp4q]

What did you expect from the Arab lady ?

[@erichoopes7643]

Agreed, Palestinians voted Hamas into power.

[@marthaolewale3083]

God bless Israel 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🙏🙏🙏

[@AimeeGirl]

There is no god

[@marthaolewale3083]

@@AimeeGirl there is God, as a Christian,in the beginning God created the heaven and Earth. Holy Bible tells us in book of Genesis 1.1/2 God gets the glory honour and praise.Amen

[@Born-Bitter]

Cool. Those Palestinians that don’t support Hamas should do something about it.

[@TheMonkeyking555]

The Palestinians should great the IDF as liberators if they’re really opposed to Hamas.

[@martycrow]

I recommend output from Corey Gil-Shuster (on YT) who asks questions on the street Israelis and Palestinians based on crowsourced questions. You may not get percentages but the insights in peoples' own voices direct to camera is illuminating.

[@davebannister323]

I thought a balanced interview , good to hear about this piece of work Thanks for sharing .

[@macmcleod1188]

The only problem with this is we know people lie to surveys for the last decade.

[@yotzap]

You've been asking the wrong questions. Ask Plestinians weather they are willing to recognize Israel's right to exist and will they be willing to let go of the demand for the 1948 refugies to go back, because these are real issues.

[@cjstout4711]

Did anyone see the survey of Palestinians the experts gave us in March of 2023? It conflicts a bit with what this expert is saying.

[@davidbeare730]

Thankyou for shining a light. I think cynical media broadcasts political warnings and calls for outrage, with callus disregard for the safety and well being of people. Research based articles like this one are precious to society because they mitigate the human suffering caused by profiteers.

[@sheilamacdougal4874]

This pollster's agenda is obvious: manipulate data to appear as if Gazans overwhelmingly support a peaceful solution. The trick is simple: divide Hamas supporters into two options: the method ("armed resistance") and the goal ("one state", meaning eradicating Israel), then misleadingly include the goal-option data with "peaceful options".

[@bell1095]

The intended Arab State from the British Mandate for Palestine was founded in May 25 1946, as the Kingdom of Jordan, based on international law created by the League of Nations in 1922. Cisjordan land was left for the jewish state. In 1948 Jordan invaded the new Israel state and occupied by war what is later called „West Bank“. In 1967 Israel freed its own land.

[@Texas240]

The very sad irony is that while Palestinians benefit very little from HAMAS, the Israeli government benefits greatly from HAMAS giving the hardline politicians an actual existential threat.

[@Dontwanttoliveanymore]

Few things more dangerous than complacency.

[@artnull13]

Can’t argue with that but also for hardliners to appear to be pro-peace process but know Hamas will always trip up or prevent any negotiation - just like they rejected the 2021 complete lifting of the blockade for permanent peace.

[@jamespier7801]

this is obscenely disingenuous.

[@Texas240]

@@jamespier7801 - If Israel didn't want HAMAS, they wouldn't have acted in a manner that encouraged it, or another terrorizer organization, to develop over past 50 years. Like it or not, the fact is that the Israeli government benefits from HAMAS because it gives them justification for continuing a regional power strategy that...led to HAMAS.

[@garyjohnstone6422]

they are all Hamas one way or another.

[@giselapfeifer4666]

Provoking war cannot be the solution..

[@kuyakano8976]

Low support for Hamas, even if true, does not equal more love for Israel. Ask the average muslim Palestinian about their opinion on Israel as a state and Judaism in general. The latter is also the main problem. They will never accept the existence of the State of Israel, thus there will be perpetual conflict. Gladly supported by states and ideologies that oppose the West. The average Palestinian is even in denial that Jewish kingdoms were present in the area more than 3000 years ago. Just a smidgen older than their favoured 1947/48 lamentations. In the end it is not a matter of who was there first, but who has the power to hold on to the land. Israel won, Palestinians (Arabs) lost. Time for them to deal with that fact. Time for them get rid of the Brotherhood, ask Israel for forgiveness and plead if they can become an autonomous province of Israel. I am not delusional however, so let's hope that their hereafter does not run out of virgins.