Jon Ronson: how the left are employing the culture wars

Jon Ronson explains the key difference in how the left and the right engage in the culture wars.
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[@betabenja]

title is 95% different from the content

[@michaelmedley5418]

Yes, it seems a good example of provocative titling by what John Ronson describes (8:30) as "our leaders in the tech and the media and the political worlds who think that they can make money out of stoking our rage for each other".

[@betabenja]

@@michaelmedley5418 ironic that the thumbnail has"war on truth" in it too. such brazen unapologetic lying by the channel

[@SandyRegion]

I love Jon Ronson! He's got such a good take on things.

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

Where's the full interview?

[@liedersanger1]

Yes!

[@jon9625]

Goebbels would be blown away by the far left

[@chrisbartelt8171]

Why do all these people look the same? The same bloody glasses, the same phenotype.... I think most of us already know tbh.

[@melonhusk]

Didn't know Colin from Portsmouth was a real person, lol. I guess China was so woke with all the lockdowns...

[@keithomelvena2354]

Maybe it was guilt about unleashing the Wuhan virus onto the planet? Self flagelation?

[@thunderfeet]

This guy is a good little soldier. Beware.

[@piccalillipit9211]

*LOVE TO THE FAMILY, LOVE TO THE FAMILY*

[@nilsschonfeld7347]

This guy is talking and talking and he is not making a single point. Did anyone understand what he message he was trying to bring across?

[@cliveadams7629]

Made sense to me. Maybe words are not your thing?

[@johnwright9372]

"Facts in general are going through a bad time of late." I would like to hear one fact from this speaker.

[@beatnikwolf]

Why does the thumbnail have him blaming the left for everything? Weird.

[@betabenja]

because Times Radio is bent

[@howtoappearincompletely9739]

Adam Curtis was certainly prescient.

[@stephenford5839]

Never heard of the guy and don’t particularly want to hear from him again. Waffle just waffle

[@Crispman_777]

Your loss. 1st series was great

[@gerarddearie-zd2gb]

So he is basically doing "Blocked and Reported" four years into the game? Goodo, Jon.

[@hagathacrusty8995]

maybe he's figured its safe now

[@monkofmayhem1373]

The funny thing about culture wars is it requires two parties yet only one side is accused of it.

[@NothingIsKnown00]

No it doesn’t require two parties. It’s enough that one bunch of people check out of reality. Then they attack everyone else for not believing the same garbage conspiracy theories.

[@monkofmayhem1373]

@@Leah-ju8ht its really not this tiny minority you may like think of it as. Heres the thing, neither of us actually know what percent of the people think of these things because these things are implemented without public votes. Example, DEI allowing racial and sexual discrimination hiring. I wasnt asked if i approved of this, were you? So how can you claim that there is a majority in favour of discrimination without these results?

[@_Stroda]

The people who claim it's one sided are, by and large, those associated with one of the two sides involved. To anyone else with a half functioning brain, it's clear that there are two sides. I think it's also clear that, at best, much of what can be described as the 'culture wars' is a distraction from more serious issues. Well, that and someone spewing the typical 'culture wars' drivel is an immediate flag that their views on pretty much anything to do with politics or economics aren't worthy of attention, and meaningful debate with them will be impossible.

[@ozbaz99]

I am reminded of a cartoon which showed a MAGA red cap man strongly arguing with a clearly left wing women also dressed stereotypically who was equally aggressively arguing back. In the cartoon they were overshadowed by a billionaire rubbing his hands together and saying "I love it when poor people fight amongst themselves"

[@_Stroda]

@@ozbaz99 Of course, if you're looking at things this way, it really is those to 'the right' who play most into the hands of 'elites'. Which is more than a little ironic, given that right wing, conspiracy theory obsessed culture warriors so often rant about 'elites'.

[@michaelhussey440]

Ronson concentrates on way out US weirdos when the real and serious culture war issues over here in the UK dont get a look in.

[@greengardener517]

Didn't Ronson throw his friend Linehan under the bus for arguing that women should have female-only sports/refuges/prisons? And for saying that gender non-conforming children shouldn't be drugged?

[@craigsteven9665]

was that the same Linehan who fought for women's rights so hard his own wife left him?

[@greengardener517]

@@craigsteven9665 I think he's divorced. His ideas (not medicalising gnc children, letting women have single sex sports, not putting convicted rapists in women's prisons) are fast becoming UK law.

[@Crispman_777]

@@greengardener517 Not really. The most recent thing was schools requiring parental permission for name changes in class. Nothing serious has shifted and anything that does prior to the general elections will be token at best/worst. As for Linehan he's essentially become freakishly obsessed with an issue that ultimately doesn't concern him professionally or personally. He made a choice to drive those people away.

[@greengardener517]

@@Crispman_777 I think society has noticed that medicalising gnc children, letting males compete in women's sports and allowing convicted rapists in women's prisons are all demonstrably unsafe policies. It's all out in the open now, and that is thanks to the bravery of a few men and women who were prepared to go against the orthodoxy. Graham Linehan and J K Rowling and the other brave souls have done a lot of good and paid a heavy price.

[@Crispman_777]

@@greengardener517Look at the people they freely spend time with and the extensive list of bizarre things they've said and approved of on social media and your opinion might change

[@davidwestwater2219]

I don't want censorship

[@keithomelvena2354]

I want people to be able to tell fact from fiction. But that's not going to happen either.

[@Exultraa]

PUPPET ☝️

[@gareth2736]

Hi Mike - what would you do with the significance of blessings in Genesis that are just words - Issac blessing Jacob rather tham Essau and then Jacob blessing his sons. Also Balam being hired to curse Israel and only being able to bless them. This suggests power in words, would you think this just primative beliefs of bronze age society (as more liberal Christians I would expect would claim) or do you think there is more to this?

[@Msoja8]

Truth from ehose perpective?

[@Globaldave1970]

Er, left wing BBC Guardian reading propaganda perspective I think.

[@1trick4all]

Joe Ronson needs to stop using so many verbal crutches. It’s so distracting…uh, yeah, uh yeah, so, sort of, kinda…come on Joe. Clean it up.

[@Globaldave1970]

Coz he's clutching at straws most of the time.

[@CWM93]

1. Jon Ronson 2. It's many bits of a longer interview edited together so he's reacting to the interviewer's questions.

[@Stevies_Precog_Gym_n_Spa420]

Oh ffs. What is it, flip on a dime season? The culture war is right wing. Thats it. End of.

[@betabenja]

Times trying to do the "good people on both sides" argument while conducting the very same war it is accusing the left of. disgusting

[@Exultraa]

go watch David icke and wake up, it's people like you who allow these problems to carry on :) have fun with all the bad karma in your life shortie, I wonder where it all comes from haha