Live Q or Die Podcast | Episode 84 | Ian McCollum | Forgotten Weapons | Part One

In part one of this two part series, Kevin and Jay host Ian McCollum of the legendary KZbin Channel ‘Forgotten Weapons.’ Ian discusses the early days of being a collector, his love for really old, really French weapons, and what it’s like to wake up in the the middle of nowhere having run out of drinkable water. If you’re a fan of historic weapons and munitions; strap in, this is one our best series yet.
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[@HumbleDirtMerchant]

Part of me does miss FW’s old intro. It had a great “local broadcaster” feel.

[@xgford94]

Ever notice how Ian still has the same rhythm on the first bursts of all his full auto episodes

[@jaxraxx3509]

The machine gun sound yes, the synth music not so much..

[@bojanmilankovic]

Big agree here. Felt like an old late 80's or early 90's educational VHS tape intro.

[@jrhan7629]

I squealed with joy when I saw who the guest was this week. Ian is a national treasure.

[@Verdha603]

“I’ve got a collection of Beretta Model 38’s.” Ah, a man of culture I see!

[@thomasmenard1799]

I never realized that ive been watching his channel since the beginning I remember being broke in my bachelor pad with a twin mattress on the floor a giant flatscreen because priorities a nightstand a coffee table and half of a sectional couch and looking forward to getting out of work to watch another video.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

I imagine the 'Sniper Button' thing has to be that someone saw a designated marksman load his rifle and making sure the bolt was seated, and they didn't know that's what the forward assist did, and that a game of telephone ensued.

[@ScrewYouThatsMyName]

I had no idea Ian had such a relatable backstory. I wanted to work in aviation too, and i also got a degree from Purdue. Maybe i still have a chance to be as cool as Ian.

[@ravissary79]

That closing line is such a gloriously random mic drop... "To speak Danish, just speak Swedish with a mouth full of potato" I'm dying 🤣

[@theotherohlourdespadua1131]

Actually, that is an old joke about the Danish language being incomprehensible. I remember a German variation of that joke which is Danish is just a drunk German talking with a potato in his mouth...

[@ravissary79]

@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 well I certainly never heard this joke.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

That joke is also used in Sweden to describe the dialect in the Scanian region.

[@simonbach3618]

As a Dane i dont think it is True about the potato. One madsen was used for só long eaven in the late, 90 or early 2000 by Rio Police.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@simonbach3618 There were many, many of those Brazilian Madsen guns, and they actually still use the things, most likely. Built originally for the Brazilian military in 7mm Mauser, when deemed obsolete it went to Law Enforcement, eventually rebarreled for 7.62mm NATO. They said they were gonna retire them a long time ago, supposedly in 2008, but they were still seen being used by 2018, because the things were built like bankvaults and just truck along, and it's hard to argue with a powerful machinegun that always works when you don't have a lot in your budget. Imagine that, an antique light machinegun, the first of its kind, really, designed in the 1800s, still being rocked around and used in urban combat into the 2000s. It was incredibly ahead of its time and it's not shabby.

[@rodrigodepierola]

"Fedorov's a good hockey player".......I died.

[@wills2140]

could be said he has an Avtomat ic 😉

[@drewdudek3626]

The roommate who went to work designing the space shuttle landing gear matches up perfectly with my chemistry teacher. He agreed that it sucked.

[@AdamantLightLP]

That's engineering lol. Everyone has dreams of designing airplanes by themselves, but in reality it's a lot smaller.

[@The_John_Galt]

Oh my Jesus Buying this book! Burt Rutan is still one of the greatest airplane designers!

[@williamflowers9435]

At first glance I read it as Bas Rutten

[@samdavidson6483]

This has made my Friday thank you guys 😊

[@armorer94]

I have a 1943 mosin-nagant that looks like it was built by a blacksmith. Shoots great. Looks like hell.

[@AtlasJotun]

I've got a '43 round-receiver Izhevsk, refurb in the 50s with a Tula bolt and hardware. Shooting a 12" gong @ 100 offhand is surprisingly easy.

[@kw9849]

I've got a wartime TT-33, and it's shockingly crudely made. Every cut looks like it was done with a hand file, yet it's been flawlessly reliable.

[@AtlasJotun]

@@kw9849 That's cool. I wish I had picked one of those up when they dirt cheap, to complement the 91/30.

[@AtlasJotun]

I forgot to add: as a hobbyist metalworker and novice blacksmith: ouch, shots fired. Remember that the most beautiful (and expensive) historical Spanish and Italian sabres, the most intricate and ornate filigreed French and Belgian rapiers, were all hand-forged by swordsmiths ;D

[@nla27]

MN resident. Bought my first AR for my 26 birthday, smooth sided bushmaster. Took it to the range in a snowy November. Shot a group. Changed targets. Sat back down and the bolt was frozen. Sat in my truck for 20 min. Shot another group. Bolt froze again. Built a second upper with a forward assist and dust cover. I've shot a bunch of times in snowy weather and only had the bolt stick twice. Both times pushing the forward assist and a single round was enough to fix the malfunction.

[@t1tan19]

Wooooooo, been looking forward to this one!

[@elmer6535]

Can't wait for the silencer book you guys are doing! How much longer am I going to have to wait?

[@TheSuburban15]

The other problem with aerospace/aeronautical engineering is that it most likely means living in Washington state, california, or Wichita. Kansas is pretty good for gun owners, if you don't mind having your home wiped out by a tornado every now and then.

[@carlos_takeshi]

Washington was pretty good on guns until the last decade or so. Now it sucks. If we get some favorable court decisions, maybe it can be good again.

[@AdamantLightLP]

Texas too, for some of it. The space side is a bit better. You get florida and Georgia.

[@bke008]

One of your best guests. Great interview

[@Recce_randy]

I have gained even more respect for Ian now

[@bryananderson3772]

Can't wait for part 2!

[@jjones6606]

25:20 I came here for Ian and I had no idea. My CFI owned a VariEze and I got to ride in it a few times when I was flying with him.

[@NielsenNielsen]

Beeing Swedish and the love/hate relationship we have with the Danes, I agree 100% on how to speak Danish!

[@wills2140]

ahh, CrissXCross ... the backward pants and straight up imitation of "Jump Around" by House Of Pain. The early 1990's man, good times ( if you were there, you know ).

[@MrStorbeck]

Kinda stoked about the Burt Rutan reference. One of my heros.

[@wills2140]

" That I found interesting, accessible, and affordable..." ,sound advice in collecting nearly anything - as well as French firearms. Wish there some niche still as affordable as FAMAS 49 / 57 Thanks everybody!

[@GliderBane]

When looking for a pistol in 1905, I think it would be hard to beat a FN 1903. straight blowback, so it will be cheaper then any locking design. The 9mm cartridge is only slightly less powerful then 9mm parabellum. And, it was designed by John Browning making it cooler then to luger, but just as cool as the colt 1905, since he designed that as well.

[@ericsteenbergen9470]

Not a bad choice either. Though I dunno about only slightly less powerful. It looks like 9mm Browning Long is in the 240-300 ft lbs range whilst 9mm luger is 350-500. That's a pretty steep jump, 9mm Browning Long is much more similar to .380 auto. Still a fine choice. Dunno if I would take it over the Luger though.

[@jl6569]

This is what I thought Ian was going to say. It would have been my choice more than likely.

[@kw9849]

I have a feeling the 1903 wasn't a cheap pistol back then, though.

[@Wolf_Avery]

I blame Ian for introducing me to Q And Kevin when they did the Silencer Q&A on Forgotten Weapons a while back. Praise Gun Jesus

[@ItsBiscoitoIndeed]

GOATs right here

[@TrojanSalesmen1]

I dont mind Gun Jesus longer VIdeos.. they ware super relaxing and WAY more indepth on the stuff. its great!

[@finnanutyo1153]

Oh shit Ian is so cool.

[@MrROTD]

I don't mind the Gun Jesus name but I think he is more like a Gun Bob Ross, has a very soothing demeanor, I fall asleep with Ians Qand A on sometimes.

[@nirfz]

Interesting, didn't realize that i am watching Ian since he started. (Would have guessed he at least was doing that YT stuff for longer than since 2011)

[@TheRealSchmutz]

My friday fucking needed this

[@Sman7290]

LeTourneau University's aeronautics program is phenomenal.

[@Terran994]

Just received my Honey Badger last week. Amazing. I have a Rattler, but my God that thing is a lead weight compared to the honey badger

[@tomharper8351]

Manurhin MR73 will be mine at some point in my life

[@damienthomas6655]

❤i agree Q ,doing the redesign on the rem700 trigger for my first job out of uni would be awesome ,,and well straight out of uni you goto start somewhere ,new company wants to see how hard you work and your passion ,,the best job i ever had i started as thr shit kicker at the bottom and worked my way to the top over 10 years .

[@shaunybonny688]

Northern AZ native here 👊🏻. I wonder where he built his off grid place at.

[@smorrow]

Should be findable on Google Maps for an obsessive-enough stalker. Vicinity of Tucson, white pickup truck, house is one of those Bill Gates built-into-the-hillside-type things.

[@J0nnyKiiD]

I'm late will have to watch this one later 🥺

[@mattkidwell660]

I never knew he was a Boilermaker and a MET, same as me!!!

[@AdamantLightLP]

Didn't know Ian's background. Really cool, and makes sense he has a mechanical background. I got my ME and have done work for NASA. He's totally right lol. Stuff that complex, you'll end up just doing small pieces of the big picture in design. It's why I prefer doing test engineering. You get to play with the finished product.

[@TexanApollyon]

Comparing a Luger to modern handguns is so bafflingly asinine only someone eternally stuck in the present like Kevin could do it.

[@rynesiemon3836]

When I lived in AZ I slept on the back porch and my water, and soda would freeze at night in my room

[@Jellooze]

1:00:12 truer words has never been spoken.

[@nytia117]

Will there be a part 2 of this interview ?

[@bradpittman5075]

Sick

[@kennenandersen]

Ian and I have very similar college experiences.

[@smorrow]

17:40 Blish lock

[@blkcat954]

Kevin what is your favorite Lacore will be a bourbon or whiskey

[@sharpright6887]

Not cutting my hair when I retire is a goal of mine.

[@chuckcote9292]

Big one

[@Len_M.]

The first Video I seen of Ian he was doing a presentation at a School I believe. It was way before anyone knew him or the legend of Gun Jesus was born. I don’t even think he had that many Subscribers.

[@williamflowers9435]

3:15 you could go with the Peaky Blinders haircut

[@codycarlson1346]

Hell yeah and feel free to make some longer podcasts! Love the fucking work guys! Keep it up!

[@sacriptex5870]

Ian are some sort of Skinny Cody Lundin with guns

[@Terran994]

To answer the "why not just make guns simple to start with", it's a 2 parter. 1 countries and militaries have pride. The nice new gun or weapon isn't going to be some cheap looking thing that came out of a cave lol. 2 there's the "this would be nice to have and let's do this on all guns" argument, and there's the "what is needed to make it functional." Look at the K98 during WW2 with the long eye relief scopes or the STG-44s with optics. Initially they wanted every gun to have optics, but that never happened

[@smorrow]

They should make a straight-blowback gun with the sniper button

[@Mjdeben]

Who are these other two guys?

[@alexm566]

exactly 😅

[@carlcarlton764]

Why weren't the guns designed for mass production in the first place? Good question, they should have gotten that message long before 1918. Just look at CRsenal and their many episodes about Ersatz-rifles. I guess it takes two world wars for politicians to get the message.

[@edwardfowble9429]

Grandeur. The sight of such a weapon doesn’t inspire confidence. On the other hand you add a bayonet lug and a kid might fancy themselves a samurai warrior ready to sacrifice themselves for the emperor.

[@SlavicCelery]

Because modern mass production wasn't a thing when guns were introduced.

[@carlcarlton764]

@@SlavicCelery Absolutely not, but if they could radically simplify the guns by 43 to 45, they could have done some removal of gold plating before 39.

[@SlavicCelery]

@@carlcarlton764 Judge the firearms in WW1 not WW2. Look at a end of war model in Japan or Germany and it's been tidied up and quicker to manufacture. You go back to WW1... not the same case.

[@pierren___]

​@@edwardfowble9429 nonsense. Wars were made for soldiers, theres no point to mass building when you dont have a market/war for it.

[@DroppingBombs4ever]

primer + case + gun powder + projectile = Modern day cartridge using Sammi spec guidelines for safety 1000lbs = 7000.00108027 grains What was the exact amount in lbs or whatever unit of measurement did the founding fathers stated to have ready just in case? How many Modern day cartridges could be made using the equation listed above using the appropriate materials for a modern day cartridge?

[@didamnesia3575]

Ian is actually Q.... I'm kidding. It's some pot head that delivers pizza

[@IncredulousIndividual]

Why is it black and white?

[@FCACTUAL69420]

Kevin is aiming for being the off brand Jocko. It’s so cool.

[@Wolf_Avery]

Why is tan known as flat desert earth? It just is.

[@SlavicCelery]

Ode to French cinema obviously.

[@maximilianrockefeller8854]

If Gun Jesus cuts his hair, he wouldn't be Gun Jesus anymore - he'd just be Gun Guy. Don't get it twisted, he'd still be awesome, he just wouldn't be Gun Jesus.

[@alexm566]

you need to start somewhere in big companies, only startups will let you do big stuff without experience

[@bobborlog1677]

How ian turned out makes sense now based on his parents the only thing I think he gives off is a Renaissance fair type of guy. Maybe that's from his mother making costumes .

[@stevewatson6839]

It comes out in the hats and uniforms to match the guns' nationalities... and the smoking jacket of course!😃

[@Jason-fm4my]

Sad to think how many fine lebels have been destroyed over the years due to lack of interest.

[@trentb.710]

Love this guy. FUCKING BAD ASS EP! was getting sick about talking about hunting

[@Drinq_Duq]

If you want your reciprocating bolt firearm to shoot better... hold it with your thumb

[@berryreading4809]

What a quote to end part one on 🤣👍

[@Anonymous-ks8el]

Skip to 5:25

[@alexm566]

archivists seems like an intelligence related job 🤔

[@bruni5289]

Roller delayed is German, it started in Germany at Mauser during WW2

[@bruni5289]

54:00 if a discovery is made accidentally is it less valid than it behind done intentionally?

[@DayBowBow]

7:59

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

Wait... He must be more than 10k subs

[@smorrow]

Don't forget linear algebra

[@user-wl4qr4yz1p]

I wish they would have talked to the guest.....

[@roblayton8862]

Yo!! Can we get a skullet KB sticker???

[@AshleyBlackwater]

The Azov book wasn't the most "controversial" video on the channel?

[@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike]

New scriber alert: It’s wonderful that Ian would go on such a dusty show. PS don’t speak to me 💯

[@xthee_0nly_1x11]

This comment is wack.

[@LikeLikeLikeLikeLike]

@@xthee_0nly_1x11 your mother: 💀

[@ehfoiwehfowjedioheoih4829]

Nas gem

[@daenudaenu395]

Who are these people next to gun Jesus?

[@blkcat954]

I'm on that same fix that a grown man let it grow a canna feel like I see a receding hairline but I don't know my dad a song pepper full head of hair my mom's thing as hell so I don't know

[@CallofDoobie585]

And this weeks forgotten weapon... The q fix... Just kidding guys... Jokes

[@strydyrhellzrydyr1345]

Wait... Wow... Why is Ian on this channel

[@okolepuka808]

i will be so glad when this podcast goldrush is over, not everyone needs a podcast/video channel. , i.e. these bubbas. Ian is great

[@qllc8143]

Thanks for watching!

[@LT3Fluffy]

​@qllc8143 you black and white filtered nerds somehow made Ian boring Gratz

[@deejayimm]

I love Ian but he is nowhere near the most prolific gun KZbinr. It makes me happy to see that he is doing so well though, because I'm not the only gun nerd out there that likes the weird stuff..

[@xj53pq7]

Who else is making 5 to 6 gun videos a week nonstop?

[@deejayimm]

@@xj53pq7 perhaps I've misunderstood the definition of prolific, and I was thinking about distribution aka subscribers.

[@aulto]

I was so so worried this was a Qanon podcast 😅

[@rydplrs71]

The forward assist kept Kyle rittenhouse in the fight.

[@bankruptremy4987]

Anybody else happy the honey badger is coming back to call of duty?

[@zombeeofdtx]

Don’t play with our feelings

[@bankruptremy4987]

@@zombeeofdtx I swear

[@rollastudent]

5:47 isn’t that kinda the point of the channel?

[@Ni999]

"You give a shit about what people say?" And yet you expect guys with long hair to give a shit about what you say about it - and you can't resist making it about something unmanly. _Perfect._

[@simonbach3618]

Dont understand what he said about Madsen company sucess. The Madsen lmg, had plenty sucess acording to his own videos on them.

[@SlavicCelery]

Plenty is a sliding scale. The colt lightning sold "plenty". Compare that to a single action army... Or the 1895 Winchester verses the earlier lever firearms.

[@davehardesty3649]

Kyle proved the forward assist is valuable.

[@jjones6606]

Only because his chubby little girl fingers couldn’t pull a charging handle back and let it go. I bet that’s the closest that little virgin will ever get to pushing a button.

[@24680kong]

With the dust cover open, you can push the bolt forward with your thumb. Admittedly it's not great, but you can do it.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

@@24680kong Gives you shitty leverage, and also very easily slips if your hands are dirty or wet. Also the bolt carrier gets hot as you fire it, and not everyone's thumb fits well in the ejection port.

[@hansgruber9685]

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine True. I’ve been slapped in the face for trying to put my thumb in an ejection port before.

[@AdamantLightLP]

Or just charge the gun again, idk.

[@bradborton4802]

Come on, bozo the clown hair rules bro!

[@blkcat954]

U to tj

[@tiortedrootsky]

Please please please! I've asked several times in comments but of course nobody will see it. Ians channel is more that 10 y.o. and theres still no way to make corrections! How is it possible?? Somebody have to ask Ian to do something about it. FW is the best gun channel in the world! It deserves better! Please relay this to Ian, somebody! Like the ptrd doesnt have an extremely strong spring, like Ian thought, its just the handle reciprocates with the barrel. The Tribuzio 1890 doesnt rely on strenght of shooters finger for locking, like Ian said, it is properly locked. Things like that pass through from time to time.

[@jeremyshackleford3058]

France……surrendering all over the world. Seriously though, most of their weapons throughout history have had strange things about them. Often that hinder performance in the field. That’s why typically they are only used by the French.

[@ZennZennster]

Uhhhh not really? Thats something Ian's talked about in this podcast. France doesn't like relying on other country's for their firearms and so they always make their own.

[@ZSC001]

They’re usually the first to adopt new tech, which is great, but then the 2nd Gen of that tech turns out to be better and they’re still stuck with that 1st Gen, IE: the Lebel vs. Mauser

[@drdoom-skull2244]

French arsenals, state-owned, used to cater from the French military and not bother to try and sell their guns elsewhere. They were not a business like Mauser or HK or Colt, etc. So you find French small arms used by French forces and countries that received them as military aid, mostly.

[@0neDoomedSpaceMarine]

The French were the first ever country to adopt a smokeless powder rifle in history, they made every single other military rifle in the world obsolete. You don't get more cutting edge than that, nevermind all the other small arms stuff they were at the forefront of in the 1800s alone. At the time of its adoption, the Lebel was unrivaled. Twice the effective range, not needing to clean it during a battle, high capacity, fast. The tube magazine and cartridge design may have become issues later, but the entire rest of the world had to catch up before it even began mattering.

[@GarthKlaus]

Four minutes in and now one has said anything... They keep talking... Saying nothing. Oh, inertia... Like mos maiorum... Ok, kinda funny.

[@fobekpaulino1]

Devil's advocate. The forward assist saved Kyle rittenhouse

[@pancortv8989]

The dude on the very right is abnoxious

[@kevinbrittingham6774]

Obnoxious?

[@jamesburge1983]

Interesting observation. Having been familiar with the Honey Badger, I always thought the name 'Q' was kinda cool, an homage to the legendary Bond character. Stopped in here because Ian is cool, period, end of subject. Looked up at the publisher and saw 'Q LLC', First thought was "What the fuck is Ian doing on the dumbass channel?" Interesting put a Q with a reputable firearm and it is neat. Put a Q on the internet and it instantly becomes exceptionally stupid.