Liverpool memories then and now

[@TheLastSongbird124]

Born at the bottom of Wellington Rd, 50mts from the Iron Bridge that we walked across to get the overhead train on Sat mornings to go to the kids films at the Gaumont at the bottom of Park Rd. Nostalgia plus! Even tho I´ve been away from Liverpool since 1975. A time of innocence for a little kid and memories of close community and special people :)

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

The buildings being demolished at 2:43 were the "Goree Piazza" warehouses for the storage of goods from the docks in the previous photo at 2:38 (You can just see the corner of the warehouses in that shot). The "now" location of the "Goree Piazzas" is the central reservation on the Strand, right by the Liver buildings. They were named "The Goree" after an island that protected the entrance to the harbour of Dakar in modern day Senegal, once a MAJOR trading destination for ships plying from Liverpool.

[@stephensmith4480]

Our City will always be known in Maritime circles mate and I for one am so proud of our Seafaring history. My Dad Was in the Merchant Navy, during the war, he served in the North Atlantic Convoys, going up to Murmansk and Archangel in Russia. Liverpool Naval history is fascinating. I read something the other week that I did not know about. Apparently, the building on the corner of Duke St and Berry St, that used to be, The White Lion Pub, was originally, the family home of the owners of what was a Liverpool shipping family that the Tv Drama, The Onedin Line was based on.

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

@@stephensmith4480 The sea was so ingrained into the fabric of Liverpool society, if you weren't actually on the ships you were probably loading and unloading them. Now its all history. Do you remember the scene in "Boys from the black stuff" where the grandfather gets pushed round the decaying docks in his wheel chair Steve? heartbreaking stuff, that I still remember 40 years later. My own Dad (born off Stanley Rd), was in the Royal Navy during WW2, and saw "proper action". He witnessed the Bismarck being sunk, and took part in the rescue of the survivors, survived his own ship being sunk in the Indian ocean by Japanese dive bombers a year later and clung to wreckage for 33 hours before rescue, then 2 years in the Med onboard HMS Warspite and Valiant. He was born in Bootle and always used to say about Liverpool, It had some of the world's best architecture within half a mile of some of its worst slums. (You can guess which part we were from !!). After doing my family tree over the last 20 years, I found more than a few merchant sailors in there, one of my great grandfathers and his son both drowned in accidents in Princes dock in different years, one in 1913 the other in 1954, my uncle who died in 1954 had, like your own Dad, had spent the war backwards and forwards across the Atlantic, The Murmansk run must've been the worst of all, both the weather, u-boats & aircraft all trying to kill you, bloody disgrace they had to wait so long for a campaign medal. All the best Steve.

[@stephensmith4480]

@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Cheers my friend for sharing those magnificent experiences that your family went through. I was born and bred in the Dingle, so were all my family except my Dad and my maternal Grandmother. My Dad was born on the Island of St Helena and went away to sea as soon as he could, my Nana was born in Ireland. Like you say, the sea is just ingrained into Liverpool, my uncles all went away to sea and worked on the docks when they finished, up until retirement. My Dad used to laugh when I used to tell him that I got seasick. He said, you can never appreciate the power of the open seas until you have actually experienced it. I actually went aboard HMS Warspite ( obviously not the one your Dad was on ) when she visited Seaforth docks in the 80s. We have a Maritime history that is second to none. The last confederate Navy ship CSS Shenandoah, commanded by Lieutenant commander James waddell, surrendered in Liverpool because he had been at sea and did not know that the American Civil war had ended and he feared that he would be accused of Piracy. He knew that Liverpool was very pro confederacy and that`s a story worth researching all on it`s own. Take care my friend and stay safe 👍

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

@@stephensmith4480 Yours and my family Steve, are like so many others, We've got English, Irish, a bit of Scots and even a touch of Canadian amongst our family's ranks, but your dad coming from St Helena is an unusual & interesting one, and trumps my family roots!!! Have you done some family research? I find it fascinating, and done properly it really is like writing the historical narrative of your own family. Its always interesting to talk with someone like yourself steeped in Liverpool history. There is indeed a lot of US civil war confederacy links in Liverpool, the first US consul in Paradise street (which used to be the "Eagle" pub & now part of "liverpool one"). The Confederate embassy in Rumford place as well as others in Toxteth, and as far north as Crosby where apparently confederate & union sympathisers and agents plotted against each other's efforts to obtain war supplies from the UK in various pubs & private homes. Bang on with your dad's observation re: the power of the sea, my Dad told me about sailing across the bay of Biscay accompanying one of the RN aircraft carriers late in the war and said how awed he was to see such mighty ships completely dissappear out of sight in the trough of waves only to reappear seconds later towering over him. I'm like you, always had the highest regard for sailors, and would never volunteer for a life at sea. The next time your in the Maritime museum, if you go to the "Battle of the Atlantic" hall, in one of the display cases there, is a little aluminium disk, and a dirty old oily rag. The disk is a dogtag from the German "Bismarck" survivor that dad pulled from the sea in May 1941, and the "oily rag" is the remains of Dad's lifebelt that kept him afloat after his ship (HMS Dorsetshire) was sunk in April 1942.... he kept it right through the war and it hung on a nail in our garden shed for 50 years until I told him to donate it and the dogtag to the museum in the early 90s. Great talking Steve, keep interested and take care !!!

[@stephensmith4480]

@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Wow, that is amazing that items with such a close and personal connection and a very historical connection too, are in the Maritime museum, for all to see. I have made a mental note of that and will definitely make a point to look them up, next time that I am down there, which is long overdue. My missus is from Belfast and her Dad spent all his working life in the Shipyards at Harland & Wolfe. With reference to The Confederacy, I read something a while ago about a monument of some kind which I think is in Bury and it`s something to do with the forming of The Constitution, but I can`t quite remember the details. I`m sure there will be something on the Net regarding it. Well, once again, many thanks for your time on what has been a very interesting Topic of discussion. Take care my friend and Best wishes. ⛵

[@wmr9019]

My mother worked on overhead at Wapping station, I have a photo of her in her uniform at the exit gate , RIP mummy 💖

[@Tenko2007]

Fascinating.this holds so many memories of places long gone but still so familiar.its difficult to explain as I never experienced these locations directly,just knowing of them,walking past and so on. A really great video thank you

[@jackhughesbooks]

Thanks- born in Seaforth 956- brought back lots of memories. Used to work in the HSE on the Top floors of the Triad Bootle

[@Sim2500]

great insight to the history of Liverpool

[@brianyoung5532]

Many thanks for sharing your photos of yesteryear ,most I recognise others I don’t, but all the same a very good video production

[@jamesbyrne9312]

I know its grammatical but The Albert Dock was not built in the 1980s, perhaps amend to say redeveloped in the 1980s

[@thewinnertakesitall4384]

Perhaps you just shut the fuck up . Grammar police

[@caramelldansen2204]

Don't you mean the Royla Albert Dock? 😂

[@jamesbyrne9312]

@@caramelldansen2204 Yeah haha

[@patricknewall5634]

At 0:11, it says the Royal Albert Dock built in the 1980s. It was in fact opened by Albert, Prince Consort to Queen Victoria in 1864.

[@sebasstianninop]

It was built in 1848 actually

[@rogermoore3189]

Typing sound with music is irritating. Completely unnecessary.

[@paulinecabbed1271]

The building on The Strand near to what used to be called Cunard building, I do remember in about 1974 there was a surface car park there, in the middle of the Strand. Where was The Custom House? Near there?

[@nevillemason6791]

At 2:04 the Liverpool Overhead Railway wasn't 'demolished September 1956'. I remember as a small child it took months to cut down the structure into sections small enough to remove for scrap. It closed due to corrosion but would not have survived the closing of the south docks due to the introduction of the containers in the early 1970s. All the dockers went and the need to transport large groups of dock workers.

[@sandrapritchard6035]

WOULD BE PERFECT TODAY TO GET FANS TO + FROM THE NEW EVERTON STADIUM BRAMLY MOORE, DOCK..LABOUR MARXIST COUNCIL HAVE DESTROYED LIVERPOOL

[@lucywilson6280]

You can still see sections of it particularly Moore Street

[@geoffsimms3013]

Some great pictures but the keyboard noise needs to go.

[@caramelldansen2204]

Hard agree.

[@johncodling9805]

Agree

[@karenclare4241]

Yes definitely

[@fp30e]

Love your video. Just one point. You show the landing stage sunk. This was not the old landing stage. A new one was brought in made of concrete, and over a period of time water was seeping in and it just sank. Apparently, a Ferry was approaching the landing stage and they could see it getting low in the water, and turned around and went back to the Wirral side.This happened twice. No storm damage. The old stage was the best

[@oktfg]

Speke retail park. Current layout replaced earlier sheds that left Pauline Ashley House a RNID /British Telecom typetalk centre stranded in the centre of the new car park area. New retail sheds on RHS replaced older sheds housing a bowling alley and Wilkinson DIY

[@michaelgrace1298]

I remember typetalk being there

[@anthonyboner3070]

Me too - I worked there!

[@michaelgrace1298]

@@anthonyboner3070 my wife worked there too

[@alrobbo2542]

Never had a Wilkinsons on Speke Retail Park.. There was a DIY store before B&Q but can't remember the name, It was based in St Helens.

[@paulburns1333]

I've been inside that sugar silo at 4:28. Incredible space, should be used for hospitalty when Everton's new ground is up and running not far away.

[@JayEFC1969]

3:22 - that's Manchester Exchange Stn NOT Liverpool.

[@garysimpson3900]

I was wondering why I couldn't place the lay out.

[@ScouseAa]

When you asked "anyone know what this was?" on the Strand, I think it possibly could have been the goree warehouses. I'm not certain but it's a possibility.

[@jas20per]

As a very young boy my farther took me regularly on trips on the over head railway from the pierhead so Seaforth. Looking back now I have two questions, one why did Liverpool council not step in to pay for the repair's or try to obtain funds from the Government at the rime?? two where did the money go that was made for those hundreds of tons of scrap metal???

[@jamesbrien1944]

Interesting. I rather liked the key-board tapping.

[@johnburns4017]

But not the poor English.

[@jamesbrien1944]

@@johnburns4017 LOL!

[@Guitar6ty]

Travelled on the Overhead railway just before it closed.

[@johncodling9805]

I did the same I bunked the train to Sandhills and back to the Pier Head one time only, plus I never had a clue where Bootle was.

[@Denshaaa]

Rite on!

[@mikemulvaney3311]

6.54 the only thing left in that picture is the caradoc pub everything has gone on both sides of the road

[@markkinnish1196]

I know this from from a few years ago but just letting you know the part where you said what was this in middle of the strand that was originally the Goree Warehouses which stood in the middle of what is today the busy road named the strand. Goree came from the name in Africa to do with the slave trade although the warehouses weren’t built until years after the slave trade had finished and also no slaves ever came to Liverpool it was the ships that went out from Liverpool to the places like Africa where they were to America. The Goree warehouses had a fire in the 1800s and were then rebuilt but where then badly damaged in the blitz of 1941 in Liverpool and were then totally demolished in the 1950s as is shown on that photo. Hope that helps.

[@terrysmith9362]

the building in the Strand was the Goree warehousing badly bombed in ww2

[@GETOUTTHERE]

Learn something new every day 👍

[@johntyrer8418]

Incredible typos! Nice vid though

[@SkodaOctyFixes]

Yeah I was getting so wound up by the spelling!

[@lliambunter]

I think that building in speke estuary was a BT call centre for the deaf typetalk?

[@oktfg]

Pauline Ashley House it was run by RNID charity and funded by BT as a regional TED centre. Later moved to new offices in liverpool docklands

[@stephensmith4480]

I couldn`t remember the name of the restaurant at the Pier Head ( The river Rooms) We used to go and play around the Pier Head when we were kids, I lived just off the Dock Rd, Hill St. The Cafe that sold Hot Ring Doughnuts was always the place to visit, I can still smell it even now. Great Days. Go to School, play out with ya mates and then go home where ya mam would put ya dinner out. Life was simple.

[@GETOUTTHERE]

River room tomato soup warm roll looking out overs the Mersey. Felt like a millionaire

[@stephensmith4480]

@@GETOUTTHERE Ya right there mate 👍

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

I remember the "River rooms" as "the Berni Inn". Ate a god few steaks in there over the years. Remember the cafe in the Pier Head bus sheds that sold the sugar doughnuts. Used to watch them on the machine being deep fried and dipped in sugar, then passed to you through a serving hatch onto the main concourse.

[@stephensmith4480]

@@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684 Remember it like it was yesterday mate and all the Bus Drivers would be hanging around, drinking cups of Tea, waiting for their next Bus out. Those Doughnuts were the star of the show.

[@walterkronkitesleftshoe6684]

@@stephensmith4480 Aye, thats right Ste. My "old feller" was one of them bus drivers.... He used to drive the NO.10 route Pier Head to Prescot / Rainhill Stoops, and "Me mum" was a "clippee" clicking your bus ticket (before they went to "one man operated" buses).I know the city centre looks better now than it did 40 years ago, but somehow I'd go back there at the drop of a hat, Happy times, well for me at least. All the best Ste.

[@paulinecabbed1271]

Interesting fact or myth. At one time, perhaps 100 years ago The custom House in Liverpool brought in the most Income for the Government. Similarly in more recent times, only about 100 metres from that same location when the MoD was spending 5 per cent of GDP, it could be that a substantial part of UK government’s expenditure was paid from Liverpool

[@JohnSmith-jl3fm]

They should reinstate the overhead railway it's a shambles now the strand road.

[@GETOUTTHERE]

Well said 👍

[@dronevideotravel7518]

I suscribe to your channel👍🏻

[@bnewick]

The center building on the strand was called the goree where press gang prisoners were chained before deportation

[@Backspace1957]

Royal Albert dock built in the 1980s, EH?

[@Kev-lfc10-163]

1840s more like.

[@naimusic362]

Very good video but loads off spelling mistakes 🙄

[@Brix96]

The Overhead Railway wasw kmocked down in 1959

[@barbarapineda5730]

A city and a port, ship brg..merchanises,.. and also..industrials,..too maybe..

[@hhoward14]

Steam lorry on the left. A normal sight up until some time in the 1960s.

[@GETOUTTHERE]

Didn’t even no they existed 🤦‍♂️ wow

[@onlooker6530]

My granddad and his brother drove one. They were called "Puffing Billies" in Liverpool. There's one on display in the Museum of Liverpool.

[@keithpowell-evans9646]

that was the Goree Warehouse

[@peterwhitaker4038]

Goree Piazza they called it

[@davekelly5503]

The key board tapping is a little irritating. Much rather listen to the nice tune in the background.

[@GETOUTTHERE]

Let me no what you think on this one 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6C7ZYawqrmDp9U

[@Brix96]

I understand the Stanley Dock warehouses were built by French prisoners of war in Napoleans Time.

[@zoso280]

What's with the keyboard totally destroys the presentation.

[@Brix96]

The Photo Anybody know what this was i think it was the Goree Piazza the part still standing was Tom Halls a famous dockside pub along the Dock side of the Buildind was an arched walkway.there was a Lkegend that in the Cellars of the pub were Manacles on the walls reputed to be for keeping Slaves in t5he 17/1800s this could not be true because Slavery was never legal in Britain at that time and the saying was if ever a Slave ship came into Liverpool if the Slave eve43r managed to get ashore he would be free,,but i dont think slave Ships ever came into Liverpool. i forgot to say the name Goree Piazza was the name of the Port in Africa where Slaves were taken from.so perhaps thats why the Legend Grew.

[@itsonlyme9938]

Liverpool Exchange it is not its Manchester Exchange.

[@561jeffkelly]

Excellent Vlog and keep up the great work. Also in the comments is one halfway down from a Viewer CN6219. This person is a bully, why mention about the Vloggers spelling and why mention they have travelled the word. There comment about this matter has no relevance but to make them look big. Out of 8 billion people in the world most of us have traveled the world So mentioning this does not make them anything special but to themselves. Sorry I wrote this but I hate bullying and people who think they are above the rest of us. As my Granny always said” we all go the toilet and do the same thing in there, even kings and queens”.

[@stanthomas1406]

Working Avonmouth docks

[@wazkonna]

Lad stop with the keyboared noises

[@ronaldhall1652]

Whoever did this needs to brush up on their spelling!

[@cn6219]

Fascinating video, unfortunately spoiled by your spelling ... it gives reinforcement to an inappropriate stereotyping that we, as a city receive. I love the fact that you have taken the time to create, but with little more spell checking it would have been superb. Before the critics hound on me, I too am from Liverpool (well Litherland actually) - travelled the world professionally and returned to retire. I love the City.

[@561jeffkelly]

1st leave the poor person alone. They have gone out of their way to make this Vlog. 2nd why mention you have travelled the world it has no relevance to this subject but to make yourself look bigger. I have travelled the world not for work but for leisure but so what. Out of 8 billion people in the world most have travelled the world you’re not special. 3rd to criticise a person on their spelling you must get great pleasure from this or you was bullied in your life or childhood you find this to be the case when a person reaches adulthood they take great pleasure in pointing out other peoples faults.

[@cn6219]

@@561jeffkelly Some points. Yes I make the spelling comment BECAUSE everything else was so professional. I spend more time and effort congratulating their work. I then say I travelled professionally (I was paid to travel to work rather than visit and enjoy) and given the options the World has to offer was still more than happy to express the preference as to where I retired because I love our city. As much as I have been willing to listen to your feedback perhaps you might listen to mine. Please go the extra mile and try to comprehend rather than just read. I am guessing you might have had to coach individuals in the past were it’s important to provide points of improvement first but frame it so that as you complete the interaction you are more positive focused. Now re-read my post and recognise it for what it was saying it was really good enjoyable constructed with love and enthusiasm that was reflected in the published piece. At no stage did I make the assumptions you did. Nor did I attempt to make pithy insults. I am however pleased that you took the time to write.

[@Eldempski-jm5ny]

Albert dock built in the 1980s? Don’t think so, more 1840s

[@keithpowell-evans9646]

it was the Goree Warehouse

[@frankhornby6873]

Qweensway ??..tunnel ....cum on...uz skowsers kan spel betta dan dat!....

[@stevenwhittingham6115]

Background music, sounds like a baby strangling a cat, ..and whats that clicking all about. Spoilt a great vid 😔

[@DAD00007]

Thanks for the memories,but I have to pick you up on your spelling of rite-right.

[@GETOUTTHERE]

Loads have commented. 😂🤦‍♂️ used speech to text software an the results are nothing short of comical 😂. Lesson learned watch before I publish 😂

[@jssl-1515-peace]

The typing sound is incredibly annoying

[@JohnSmith-jl3fm]

St John's

[@leeebbrell9]

Wow so that's what the overhead railway looked like, my wifes mum tells me about it. Sad to see so much removed like trans and overhead railway

[@telboyynwa699]

Yes the spelling/grammar wound me up.

[@josiemovies]

it was built in 1846