LIVESTREAM A MUSICAL PERFORMANCE - USING LOGIC X, BLACKHOLE, OBS pt.1

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CHAPTERS:
00:00:00 INTRO
00:00:47 CONTENTS
00:02:50 DOWNLOAD OBS
00:03:32 DOWNLOAD BLACKHOLE not SOUNDFLOWER!!
00:04:07 IPHONE AS CAMERA
00:05:05 AUDIO MIDI SETUP (FIRST COMMON ISSUE!)
00:05:22 IMPORTANT ROUTING ISSUE WITH BLACKHOLE IN AUDIO MIDI SETUP
00:05:37 PULL DOWN THAT TAB FOR YOUR OUTPUTS
00:05:38 LOGIC X SETUP
00:05:39 IMPORTANT ROUTING ISSUE WITH BLACKHOLE IN AUDIO MIDI SETUP
00:07:29 SETTING LOGIC & LOGIC X TEMPLATE
00:10:34 OBS QUICK SETUP
00:10:43 DIing Acoustic
00:11:02 OBS QUICK SETUP
00:11:27 SELECT SOURCES IN OBS
How to Livestream a musical performance using Logic X, Blackhole and OBS.
1. SETTING UP YOUR STREAM AND WHAT TO USE
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2. existential.audio/blackhole/?... BLACk HOLE
3. DAW of Choice
4. OBS Camera for Iphone obs.camera/ paid but really good
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This video is about how to livestream a musical performance.
How to integrate mixed high quality audio from a DAW (Logic X, Ableton, ProTools) into live streaming software OBS.
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How to set up Software Instruments (in my case Steinway Grand Piano) using this method:
You will need to bring up the mixer (shortcut key 'x' on your keyboard) as he shows in the tutorial. Notice that midi-related channels are color-coded green at the bottom, while audio channels are color-coded blue (both of the channels were blue audio channels in the video).
You will see that there are already two additional green channels in the mix, Small Hall and Large Hall effects. They have Bus 2 and Bus 3 as their inputs, respectively. The Steinway Piano is automatically set to send to these channels, Bus 2 and 3. If you follow his tutorial while leaving these bus inputs alone you will run into issues. The solution is a simple two-step process:
1. Change the input of Small Hall and Large Hall to Bus 11 and Bus 12 for each channel, respectively (it doesn't really matter what bus you use, so long as it is not occupied by another channel. I used 11 and 12 because it allowed for more space to add other channels later on without interfering, but choose whatever works for you.)
2. In order to keep the reverb effects of Small Hall and Large Hall on the piano, you will now need to change the sends on the Steinway Channel from Bus 2 and Bus 3 to Bus 11 and Bus 12 (or whatever bus you chose on step 1.)
Voila!
I noticed that for the Steinway Piano only the Large Hall effect was being utilized to begin with, as the knob with the blue semi-circle was set to -5.5 (about halfway) while the knob for the Small Hall effect was all the way off (you can find out exactly what level the knobs are set to by clicking on the knob next to the sends area.
I included instructions for both effects to be carried over in case you wanted to play around with them. It also made sense to address both since that is the way the voice started out to begin with and it will help you avoid confusion.
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[@Ki5loops]

Super useful! Thanks for the patient breakdown and addressing the problems people were running into!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Thanks glad you found it helpful

[@nativesoulproject]

Thank you SO SO much Alex for your helpful tips here! GAME CHANGER!!!!!! You're amazing.

[@MinheeJones]

You. Are. AMAZING. Thank you SO much for this! I used your old video to set up my streams and up until last night's gig it was fine then the sound went HAYWIRE every time I started streaming - had to cancel the gig. Thought I might need a new computer when I found your updated video and reinstalled with BlackHole and so far so good so must have been Soundflower that was screwing things up? Either way, this video is beyond helpful and the template is a godsend. Also streaming "New America" on repeat :) Thanks again for helping us figure all this craziness out! Literally could not have done this without your videos!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Minhee. Thanks so much for the kind words. I’m glad you found the video useful and thanks so much for checking out my music means a lot! Good luck with streaming! Thanks

[@jonnybostonjazz]

Listening to your album 'Ley Lines'. Great production Alex. Well done! 🙏🏻🙌🏻🎵

[@steveperks59]

I've been setting up a spare room as an online guitar and bass teaching studio and was banging my head against the wall trying to get this very combination working with multiple audio inputs and struggled with routing and terrible latency. I followed your instructions from this video and it worked perfectly. I am so grateful to you for taking the time to put this together - I was almost at the point of giving up on it!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Thank you so much for you kind message. It was an absolute head scratcher getting it working first time round. If you could give me a sub that would be most helpful. Good luck with the teaching.

[@rockyludden8709]

Thank you, Alex. I used this setup for my first livestream the other day, and I've had multiple people comment on the sound quality despite my messing up the mix at the last minute.

[@AlexBaylymusic]

No worries Rocky glad it helped!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Rocky Ludden just seen the tip via PayPal thanks very much!

[@thirdeyetye]

thumbs up for that template!! helped a ton

[@SuperStevo1967]

Thanks mate, this is so helpful.

[@LacyJames]

Thanks so much Alex! Super helpful! :)

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Glad it helped 👍

[@shtaeef]

thanks! this sorted out ALL of my problems

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Glad you got it sorted. If you can give a sub it helps a lot!

[@RamblingOnMyMind36]

Hi Alex, thanks for the video. One question - what did you change during the jump cut at 10:43 to make the buses start picking up the audio from your mics? I've got all the settings looking the same way you do but I'm not seeing any audio signal registering on the buses I made.

[@hammsodyssey3323]

Great video alex, it helped a lot! Were you listening to the logic output through your computer built-in output or through the output on your interface? I'd like to set up a stream where someone can do live mixing in logic while my band plays.

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hamm's Odyssey you should be able to do that listen via logic x to blackhole then OBS. Although I think you would want to get the mix set up as best you can before you start.

[@kevinmcevoy6936]

Great video, I have watched a few and I like your approach. So here is my gotcha issue, when I go into Audio devices, and select my interface and BlackHole 16ch, I dont see that menu of the sub devices with the corresponding channels.

[@amanecerworship]

Excellent tutorial! It worked for me. Thank you so much. Using a Scarlett 18i20 to Logic Pro X to OBS. Using iShowU audio capture. God bless you!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Thanks so much appreciate the kind words. I intend to do some more tutorials in the summer! Thanks Alex

[@elliottsmit]

Thanks so much!!! Everything finally works now, so I can start streaming anytime soon :)) I do have one question, related to the effects. Can I, for instance, put reverb and/or delay on sends with the output to blackhole?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Elliot. Glad it helped! As long as you route with the buses to the right output yes should work. Although the more plugins you use the more latency you introduce and cpu usage. It’s a bit of a balancing act. Good luck

[@georgecoulson5718]

Lifesaver thanks bro!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

No worries glad it helped!

[@MatthewKocel]

I've followed along through the steps several times, but my mic isn't registering in OBS. I can hear it in my headphones It registers in my Apogee Duet interface It registers in Logic But nothing in OBS. Thanks in advance for any suggestions!

[@MrDrumred]

Amazing tutorial Alex, thx a lot....

[@AlexBaylymusic]

No problem glad it helped!

[@christophsiegrist3066]

Thanks!

[@johnathanbeats]

hey Alex been watching tons of videos. trying to figure out best settings. Im trying to figure out the ducking effect using a compressor side chain for when I talk. as well as a few other things.

[@darrinpaul1343]

Hi Alex! Brother, I so appreciate your tutorials. As a MacBook Pro and Logic guy, getting those platforms to talk is great! You did a great job of explaining it, even with Soundflower, but I was glad to see the tutorial with Blackhole as an addendum. That's the one I needed. I will send you a little gift for your help. I sure wish it could be more. On another note, using Logic Pro, is there a way to go back after a recording and do overdubs, etc...? I realize I'd need to be recording into Logic simultaneously and the different software would need to be synced. That's probably beyond the scope of OBS which is fine but I was just wondering. Perhaps you have recommendations for editing software that would allow those advanced features. Do you have any recommendations for plug-ins for editing an OBS session or software that would be best for such aspirations? Thanks Alex! Darrin

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Darrin, I think you could run Ableton as a slave to logic via rewire. But you'd have a lot CPU heavy programs going at the same time then. Which might be a bit intense on your machine. But worth a go. I hope that helps!

[@ncironjohn4336]

Very helpful, and great audio quality. By the way, do you live next to the A4?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

No. I used to live next to some train tracks. No longer though!

[@sanjaygahlot]

thanks for wonderful tutorial, can we listen to the recorded track saved in logic pro session while broadcasting it through logic proX and obs ? I wanna play flute over the saved track in logic and broadcast live ?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Yes you can! Just load it up and added the buses as I've specified.

[@olsen9393]

Amazing video, thank you so much for uploading! I just have one problem. When I'm livestreaming on facebook I hear both logic x output and dry audio interface output and I just can't seem to figure out why. Any ideas?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hmm not sure I had a nightmare with Facebook when I did it also.

[@erikgoransson9391]

Really great vids! It helps me a lot. I don't know what the problem tho. Everything's fine in LOGIC but shit starts too glitch af in OBS, the sound sometimes freezes and the only way too get it too stop is too remove the blackhole in MIDI/audio. Any ideas?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Probably something with the buffer size

[@lyndseymcadams6149]

Hi Alex, Will I be able to use my focus rite scarlett 2i2? When creating aggregate it is only giving me 1-4

[@TheKarlosKollective]

Hi Alex. I wonder if you could help. I had OBS working back in December but every now and then it went distorted during a live stream. Eventually by the 3rd gig it was only distortion. So i uninstalled blackhole and reset everything up. I just tried it with a recording and its still just distorted and half way through the recording the audio to blackhole in OBS just cuts out. Any ideas? I tried streamyard last week which was fine just for me on one mic but really i need all my backing tracks from logic

[@robertmahon8510]

Hi Alex, this video (and the previous one, too) has been a game changer, really appreciate the input from Ryan as I'm a user of Midi instruments. Thank you so much! Question: what happens when I hit record on Logic? I'm thinking I could use that audio for future projects like a podcast, or something? My concern is that the processing required for recording will create a lag that builds up the longer the video goes on for? What do you think? Thank you!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Glad it was helpful! This I don't know as I've never tried it. I would be hesitant as it will increase the CPU but if you think your computer can handle it go for it!

[@robertmahon8510]

@@AlexBaylymusic got it, thanks. Actually tried it last week in an hour long stream, midi-piano and vocal. There were some intermittent scratches and stuff on my headphones during broadcast, but it didn’t seem to come across to the listener. We have a pretty good iMac with 32 ram, by the way... thanks again

[@Penfriendrocks]

Late reply to this, but I've been using this setup for a few months now and always record my livestreams as well - no issues at all here.

[@acehyer4441]

so what if its not higher than 3 or 4? Ive been looking for that. Using older Mac Late model 2013 w 10.13.6 High Sierra. Would love something straightforward to resolve this. Thanks for the knowledge in the meantime

[@robertmahon8510]

Have just noticed this follow up video, brilliant, thank you! My system seems to be under pressure streaming through Logic Pro with two audio inputs and one midi input - I’m using a MacBook Air 8GB ram, 1.8 GHz processor. Poor quality, crackling etc! What hardware do you use/recommend? Thanks

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Robert. Try lowering or increasing the audio buffer size preferences>audio in logic x. Let me know if that helps.

[@dtmchess8461]

@@AlexBaylymusic I pushed buffer size up to 256 to ease the burden on processing. Still very crackly audio, especially when the two audio inputs were going at the same time. We also had two cameras on the go at the same time and there was very little harddrive space available too. As it happens, we have an new machine on the way with stronger spec! Will let you know how it goes. What kind of RAM and processor do you use to operate decent audio comfortably? Thanks for taking the time to get back, much appreciated and best of luck with everything!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

DTM chess hi good to know. I will have a play around with it on my MacBook Air again soon. I feel like Obs updates have become more cpu intensive which won’t help things. But I’m sure we can figure a work around. It’s been mention a couple of times this issue so I will try and address it in another video ASAP.

[@MarissaNadlerMusic]

thank you! this has been immensely helpful!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Thanks Marissa glad you found it useful!

[@MarissaNadlerMusic]

one question, which may be obvious. When live-streaming from OBS to KZbin, in KZbin's advance settings, where should the Audio pull from? (the aggregate device or blackhole)? Thanks in advance! Also, on Logic, should the input through this method be set to the newly created aggregate device OR the interface. I see you have both the input and the output in Logic set to the new device.

[@AlexBaylymusic]

@@MarissaNadlerMusic aggregate in logic. Black hole in obs. KZbin receives from obs. Does that help?

[@MarissaNadlerMusic]

@@AlexBaylymusic Almost- When in youtube, I hit "webcam" to start streaming. Under the Advanced options, it gives me the ability to take the audio from the following: (internal, blackhole 16 channel, aggregate device, or interface. Which should I pick if everything is sounding good when I test recording in OBS?

[@MarissaNadlerMusic]

@@AlexBaylymusic Maybe the better question is- If I'm using both an external webcam AND the audio from Logic through Blackhole to OBS, when in KZbin, should I select Stream or Webcam? Thanks

[@riffybeats]

what are your system preferences set to in Sound out/in?

[@stavran]

Thank you m8 🙏

[@AlexBaylymusic]

No worries good luck streaming

[@TheKarlosKollective]

Hey Alex,, fantastic stuff. Is part 2 anywhere? Cheers mate

[@AlexBaylymusic]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4qqk5arfrGgY8k sorry It was unlisted for some reason. Here you go!

[@TheKarlosKollective]

Alex Bayly thanks to your first vid I think I set up and ready to go . Not being too ambitious just one condenser tonight but in future I’d love to combine my full logic projects live . Cheers matey

[@jaythansparksmusic]

Good resource for getting my OBS and LPX working together. However, at 12:04 it seems as if you cut out something or the video skipped. Where in the previous mentions did you reference "Blackhole 16ch" which you selected in the audio capture...? I was really attempting to follow you as I'm using a Focusrite 18i8.

[@lovisalindberg3263]

This is really useful! Tiny question tho - could you not just set the output of the master to the black hole instead of creating the aux tracks? I think I might be missing the reson for putting the output on a bus?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

I do this so you can monitor from Logic X but is a personal preference thing. Here is the template if you want it. www.alexbayly.net/downloads

[@Penfriendrocks]

Hi Alex, thanks for your video! I had a problem with a livestream earlier today and found this video when trying to get set up for it to work next time. You've done so much to help us with this video, but after going through it twice I'm still having trouble, and was wondering whether you'd be up for helping clear it up? If so, here goes: I've routed everything exactly as you said in Logic but am not getting a signal to go from my inputs (1-4) to the mix / output / blackhole channels when I'm playing live. My tracks are all record enabled, and weirdly if I actually press record in Logic and then play them back, I do get a signal in the mix / output / blackhole channels, and *that* audio goes through to OBS fine. In Logic - Audio I've selected my aggregate device as input and output, and in OBS - Peferences - Audio I've selected my aggregate device as well (is this right, or should it be Blackhole 16ch?). In System Prefs - Sound what should be selected there please? Also, in Audio Midi setup should I be right clicking on either Blackhole 16ch or my aggregate device to select "use this devide for sound input / output"? Can you think of any reason why OBS would be accepting the pre-recorded sound from Logic but not recognising live sound? I would be super grateful for any help with this! I feel like you're the only person who knows how to do the exact thing I'm trying to achieve. Best wishes, Laura

[@Penfriendrocks]

Weirdly, I also just tried using your template (adjusting the inputs of course and changing the outputs to the ones that match my Blackhole device) and I'm having the same problem. Argh!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Laura, firstly thanks so much for watching the video and I hope you found it useful. I am based in the uk it’s 10pm here. So I’m basically going to bed. I am around tomorrow day if you want to contact me you can. Best way is probably Instagram and I can give you my email. If you can send me screen shots of your audio midi setup screen, logic mixer and one audio then I will try and figure it out. I’m sure it’s a simple fix. If you can send stuff tonight I can have a quick look. If not I’ll have a think tomorrow and try and get it sorted. Thanks Alex

[@Penfriendrocks]

@@AlexBaylymusic Thank you! DM-ing you on Instagram now.

[@craigwinterburn]

Done this to the letter but getting nothing registering from logic/blackhole on OBS

[@widenisland]

Hey dude, I'm using this but do you know how to do to add Spotify On too when you stream? so say I wanna be able to Record my Voice as well as putting Spotify on to show my viewers? ^_^ Maybe you said it in the beginning you're not sure how to do it dunno.

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Spotify you will need to download the songs you want and put them in Logic. Unless you can re-route the output of Spotify but I think it will be tricky.

[@mullyliverpool]

HI Alex Thanks for the video it helped me a lot. Any tips on connecting iphone via NDI. I’ve downloaded and paid for app, downloaded plugin/patch for Mac but The NDI option is not available in OBS? Cheers 🍻😎👍🏼

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Haven't used it I use the OBS cameria app for connecting iphones

[@mullyliverpool]

That’s the one i have got. I can get it working with iphone charging cable... the NDI is for connecting via WIFI, but it gives me no option to connect via WiFi in OBS... do you connect via the phone wire or WiFi? Cheers for replying

[@AlexBaylymusic]

@@mullyliverpool Hi Chris, I know what your talking about now. I did try it I think but I couldn't get it to work. Although it would be great if you could get it to work. My issue is I'm on a iphone 6 and the battery life is terrible so my phone would just run out if I didn't have it plugged in so I just go into the computer and keep charged and connected.

[@mullyliverpool]

@@AlexBaylymusic cheers mate. Yes suppose makes sense to keep it plugged in to keep the charge .. nice one ✌🏼😎👍🏼

[@rafaelunplugged]

any place to download the plugins you used for your template FX?

[@rafaelunplugged]

just kidding reboot fixed it all haha.

[@noone-qg1od]

Love it

[@AlexBaylymusic]

I imagine you found it very useful.

[@noone-qg1od]

@@AlexBaylymusic always, my first stop for this type of advice 👌

[@AlexBaylymusic]

no one thanks man 👍

[@erinhyvin]

Hi, i use garage band and i follow all these steps but i think im missing the part where you convert all channels to bus 1. Do you know how i can do this with garageband?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Yes I don't think it's possible in Garage band. sorry. If you get logic x pro I've made a template www.alexbayly.net/downloads

[@tripdonahue]

it doesn't seem like the links are working for the templates

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi all, here is my LOGIC PRO X template. www.alexbayly.net/downloads ENJOY!

[@giovannidesimonepianist]

hi i have a problem setting up ableton live and blackhole, cause i lose my 3,4,5,6 CHANNEL and i cannot use my eraphones monitor..i only get 1 and 2 master channel chocing multiple output from ableton audio output... i have an AUDIENT interface

[@AlexBaylymusic]

hi sorry this is way out of date now. Might want to check on some more recent videos. I don't really do it anymore as it was a lockdown thing for me

[@heyemmamiller]

Hey Alex, I'm having problems with the template. When I try to change the output channels to 5&6 for my set-up they are all greyed out. Audio preferences are also greyed out and therefore unclickable for me. Any advice? Thanks!

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi, I think you need to change your audio preferences to the audio aggregate device? Have you done that ok? Thanks Alex

[@heyemmamiller]

@@AlexBaylymusic hey tysm for the reply. Managed to get it sorted!

[@cuokki]

Hiy alex When u connect obs there is a disturbing sound that comes, even in ur this video, there is the same noise 1:39 onwards.

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi thats trains going past on my video. it should work did you get it sorted?

[@cuokki]

@@AlexBaylymusic no the sound is still there, after connecting to OBS in few seconds the sound comes in

[@SeriouslyDaniel]

Bro are you still active cause i wanted to download your Logic Pro template and your patreon says not supporting or something like that

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi, www.alexbayly.net/downloads

[@Arpitmusic69]

bro i am a windows user so what can i download instead of blackhole?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

alternativeto.net/software/blackhole-by-existentialaudio/ try some of these. I'm not a windows user so I can't vouch for them though. Good luck.

[@Arpitmusic69]

@@AlexBaylymusic Thanks:)

[@AlexBaylymusic]

@@Arpitmusic69 no worries. Happy streaming

[@jasonmartin926]

The link for the template doesnt work. Can you help?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Hi Jason, looking now. I think it's gone from Patreon for some reason. I will sort it first thing tomorrow and send you a link. Thanks AB

[@qthecaptain]

So by this method OBS wont be able to hear you master track from logic correct?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

qthecaptain it can hear whatever you send to it that’s it. Via black hole.

[@qthecaptain]

@@AlexBaylymusic so cant you just set up your master channel in logic to route to 19 and 20 on your Audio MIDI Setup? Thats my issue... Im using FL Studio but I want to send 100% of the sound including the master from FL out to OBS... I have a different hook up but opening plugins in FL cuts my sound output to OBS and im looking for a new way of routing

[@AlexBaylymusic]

qthecaptain ah ok. I tried to figure out for someone using fl studio but I don’t really use it. Hypothetically what you are trying to do is possible you would jus there to figure out how to route it on do studio

[@alexanderisaac6520]

every now and then ill get distorted audio?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Yes I’ve started to notice this is it on your stream or the video recording? It might be the audio nitrate in OBS or you are hitting the compressor or limiter to hard in logic.

[@jackbenson8465]

wheres the link for template?

[@AlexBaylymusic]

www.alexbayly.net/downloads Sorry it took a while. Hope it helps you can purchase it or it's free.

[@darrinpaul1343]

BTW, Alex, my PayPal isn't finding your account. I'm not sure why. I tried through my app and online with your link. Let me know if I need to do something different. :)

[@AlexBaylymusic]

Ah OK perhaps it's because I'm in the UK. paypal.me/alexbayly?locale.x=en_GB here is the link again... But no stress! Appreciate the kind comments and the sub!

[@josephdi-lenardo6637]

alex mate amazing tutorial I use a focusrite and when i create an aggregate it only gives me 1-4 I have noticed someone else asked this question too what is your paypal if i can get this sorted i would like to make a donation mate thanks

[@josephdi-lenardo6637]

can also hear no sound when i hook the channels in logic up to obs hmmm