Lizzofication

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[@theclown3967]

Dev...she plays second flutist to the concept of Lizzofication. DEV....DEV.....SHE PLAYS SECOND FLUTIST NOT SECOND FIDDLE

[@ShortFatOtaku]

woops

[@theclown3967]

The small weakness in an otherwise great video. What do you think our next overcorrection will be? A form of moderation in extremis?

[@microcolonel]

Second flautist. Can't spell flautist without autist. Also the position is called second flute, as in "she plays second flute".

[@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal]

Gottem!

[@caspianbchalphy]

my thoughts exactly

[@fireworkbutterfly]

Lizzo is beautiful, which is why I compliment every leftist girl with “Omg you’re so beautiful, you look just like Lizzo”.

[@-Azure.EXE-]

Diabolical

[@ExpatChef71]

I have a friend who is beautiful in a Lizzo kind of way. It was so beautiful that it led to Type 2 diabetes and a foot that began to rot, requiring amputation. It's absolutely stunning.

[@e69alpha]

​@@-Azure.EXE-or progressive? :v]

[@woodwyrm]

🤣

[@sukamadik5983]

You are a God amongs men 😂, I'll be using this one in the near future.

[@seganesergrafxvision64_92]

Seeing Lizzo playing the flute at the concert really felt like something straight out of idiocracy

[@corxeth1177]

Just watched that movie the other day! 😯😳🫨

[@j.2512]

the united states has become a pathetic joke, literally every other country is laughing at you

[@kaminsod4077]

I hate that stupid movie and every unfunny fuck who goes "hurr dis like idiocracy", but you're absolutely right.

[@jakublulek3261]

Honestly, she should be rather handling Lee Harvey Oswald's rifle. Seems much more appropriate for her. (and I know that rifle isn't in Washington but in Maryland but you get the point)

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

@@jakublulek3261Maryland is a D.C. subburb

[@ChillyJack]

I don't hate Lizzo for playing the flute. I hate reality for the fact that Lizzo has fans.

[@3eve0n]

wonder if she'd still have those fans if she were healthy weight and white, or a man.

[@questionmark5463]

She's at least a relatively good musician and without knowing who she was or what she looked like, I will admit that I don't mind some of the songs of hers that I have heard pop up on the radio. This isn't the first time someone obese was a celebrity musician either. I don't really think her weight is the issue for me but mainly how lude she behaves in public...when there might be children present or simply other adults who have no interest in watching her twerk.

[@Drbeattles]

There is no way she's as popular as they say she is. I believe she's 200% an astroturfed industry plant.

[@kallumtownend3138]

The best quote from the video is, 'We should be promoting health, not the people who've thrown up lunch, or the people who ate the thrown up lunch.' That line was so brutal, and I loved it.

[@frug5629]

It's insulting. Especially when you've dealt with very dark moments in your life. This bullshit idea of glorifying self destruction and abusive behavior under the guise of embracing difference is fucking disgusting.

[@kallumtownend3138]

@@frug5629 It makes me concerned too Pal.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

@@frug5629 the left does the same thing with drug abuse, they always preach about how we shouldn't "stigmatize" things, but if you talk to an actual drug addict that's gotten to the point where they're no longer in denial, and know they have a problem, they'll tell you hell yes we should stigmatize it, drug abuse is awful and damn near ruined my life. People telling me everything is fine and it's not a problem don't help at all, the people pushing me to stop and get better, even if I ignored them at the time or even got mad and pushed them away, those were the people really trying to help me.

[@fookinkoont]

​@@frug5629don't give up, it will get better. we can do it

[@janruudschutrups9382]

I'm had to wipe the coffee off my screen XD!

[@ItamarO93]

Lizzo is just grotesque. Not only physically, but morally and mentally as well. There is something about her that just screams "I am the center of (gravity in) the world, and I dare you to tell me otherwise."

[@crispyandspicy6813]

Lizzo's so fat the world revolves around her. Pro tip: you can repurpose "yo mamma so fat" jokes on Lizzo and the government can't do anything about it

[@Karasamune]

She has her own center of gravity

[@Vanessa-xx3yz]

She's horrible n gross, but most celebrities have the same mentality, some are just better at playing humble than others. This is why we should focus on people's talent as opposed to who has the most social media followers or who seems the most likeable.

[@mooogu5386]

*(gravity in)

[@blackcitadel9]

As a friend of mine once said "She's so massive, a singularity would be attracted to her."

[@Sketch_XR]

I'm always reminded of the meme about women being supportive of Lizzo and calling her stunning and brave (TM), but the moment you tell a woman she reminds you of Lizzo you're in deep trouble and have hurt her feelings. That is to say, normal people intuitively know when something is good or bad, like obesity.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

One of the strongest methods the left uses to control and manipulate stupid people is the exploitation of vague concepts. Since you can't really give a clear definition of what "good" and "bad" means, they convince their followers that there's no such thing as good and bad. So you can do whatever you want. Because nobody else can tell you something is bad. Which is obviously nonsense to anyone that's capable of thinking in abstract, like you said, looking like Lizzo is not good. No matter how much leftists try to claim it is, they all know on a subconscious level that looking like a cow human hybrid is not good.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

Doesn't matter what it is: trans issues, race issues, body positivity, etc. People will say they support it, but their actions will say the opposite. They can't deny their basic instincts.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

​@@TheGreenKnight500yep. Homelessness is another big one, every leftist loves to mouth fart about how much they care, but none of them are bringing homeless people into their own homes and feeding and sheltering them. They don't want to be near them, they just want to say they care, from a safe distance.

[@shapshooter7769]

Maybe because they know you're using Lizzo as an insult? Even if they don't believe it's the case? Maybe they're calling out your intent?

[@checkthisout7616]

​@@shapshooter7769nah it's still hypocrisy, you could tell it to them with 100% conviction, thinking it's a compliment, and deep down they would be extremely offended anyways because lizzo is not attractive

[@LtHavoc62]

Nice vid Dev, great analysis. Quick correction, I believe that back on some kind of bi centennial (Madison's birtyday party at his estate maybe?), I believe a professional flutist did a performance at Madison's home with the flute and you can even buy recordings of it online. So Lizzo's not the first one to play the flute, but I fully agree that the dichotomy between reverence for tradition and the desire to desecrate American artifacts and culture still holds true regardless

[@joshuakolton9955]

Lizzo is a terrible person? Color me shocked.

[@woodwyrm]

not really shocked though

[@AspiringDevil]

Yep the music industry being being a hive of debauchery & abuse is the tradcon norm.

[@spirituskitsune]

Color? 👀

[@danmann861]

Shocked I tell you 😂

[@e69alpha]

people of color* me shocked get it right racist

[@mrbigglezworth42]

I think I agreed more with Carl and the boys at the Lotus Eaters when they discussed this way back when. Twerking on stage in a disgusting skin colored suit on stage at a concert wasn't the real issue for why so many people had a problem with Lizzo playing the flute. It was because the entire situation didn't show the proper deference such an item of historical and cultural significance held, doubly so when she had proven to know exactly how to do that before when she played it within the halls of congress. It's adding insult to injury, is what it is.

[@oldskoolaspie]

Such was her intent! She knew exactly what she was doing.

[@orboakin8074]

Those who are quick to signal their virtue, especially with identity politics, usually have no virtue to begin with.

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Of course they don't, people with real virtue don't feel the need to tell everyone about it. The people they care about already know, because they've seen it in action. You have to question the moral integrity of people who seek validation from strangers on the internet.

[@randomadventurer695]

Based

[@JM-mh1pp]

Always be afraid of people who claim to be virtuous. Self admitted scoundrells may show you mercy, killers are sometimes benevolent and tyrants get lazy, but a person who claims virtue will torture you relentlessly all the time believing in their holy mission.

[@simonpetrikov3992]

@@JM-mh1pp*insert C.S Lewis quote here*

[@RipOffProductionsLLC]

"The 3/5ths compromise denied that blacks were whole people" No, the thing being fought over was if slaves should be counted for the census that then was used to calculate how many seats in congress a state got, the slaver owners wanted to count slaves as part of their state's population(so they'd have more seats to block anti-slave legislation at the federal level), while Abolitionists didn't for the opposite reason. I love folks getting mad at this, it's so wrong.

[@Tank50us]

@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Yeah, leftists keep trying to apply modern thinking to historical events. In a few decades there will be people asking "Why didn't the Allies use the A-10 at D-Day?" because of how often it's been described as being akin to a WW2 aircraft (for context, it was designed with more basic features because it was operating in a realm where 'getting shot at' was a very likely outcome. Many of the systems used in aircraft like the F-16 weren't able to take hits and keep functioning, so the A-10 was originally designed without them. Early pilots that transitioned to the Hog made the comparison that it was like sitting in a WW2 plane). Yes, it should be easy to point out that the aircraft didn't even fly for the first time until about 30yrs after the event... but we all know how Leftists tend to think in these regards.... Then again, these are the same people calling for open war with Russia... because they know they won't be the ones having to go fight it.

[@kennethleo4471]

To be fair, just from a logical point of view, ignoring the immorallity of slavery, I would be against counting them in the census as congressmen are meant to represent the voting citizens. So counting should be contained to the voting mass. Its the same with why we shouldn't count illegal immigrants towards congressional seats.

[@Tank50us]

@@kennethleo4471 that's a good point, and one even I didn't consider... At the time, the Slaves weren't citizens, and thus, could not vote anyway even if they were free.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Exactly! Glad someone else caught this common misconception.

[@codyraugh6599]

Hell, the 3/5ths part is actually a win for the humanity of the slaves, because the slave owners wanted them counted as 100% property that would then be counted towards their voting power, the north countered by claiming that they would then count their horses as property instead of livestock. The compromise then got slaves counted not only as being equal to livestock (and thus not counted as property for voting) but as actual living human beings for 3/5ths of the person.

[@hyperdimensionbliss]

Lizzo is a case study of why this twisted game needs to be reset. Belka did nothing wrong.

[@razgriz1258]

[@hyperdimensionbliss]

@@razgriz1258

[@insanity9329]

*Water starts speaking Latin*

[@MrDarthtelos]

I think you mean “A World with No Boundaries” did nothing wrong. But I disagree. They did do something wrong. They failed.

[@MrDarthtelos]

[@ninjaartist1235]

Who knew a person who advocates for having no standards is accused for having no standards on how she treats her dancers? Weird

[@pedrohenrique-et3fs]

everybody will have standards, nobody will accept the worst.

[@tannerbarnes7392]

Frankly, as good as Lizzo was with that flute, she can play it all day long, and I would listen to that more than her actual music. The way she played when she did have it was beautiful. But she doesn't need to twerk with it. It may just be a dumb line in the sand for me to draw, but it feels disrespectful.

[@oldskoolaspie]

A line in the sand, but a perfectly respectable one IMO.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

I agree tbh

[@GeorgeCowsert]

That line in the sand is exactly what is needed. It is one thing to pick up an old artifact, find out the answer to an old question about it, and then put it down. It is another thing entirely to do degenerate behavior in the process. If she just played the flute and put it down, the most we'd get is a groan about how even the government is buying into Tokenism. Just another small mark to add to the pile, but not worthy of outrage or attention.

[@SkylineFTW97]

It exemplifies decay.

[@MollyOKami]

As a flutist since the 5th Grade, it just breaks my HEART to see someone with such talent act like the way she does. She's sold her soul & gets rewarded with something any flutist would sell their SOUL to do.

[@mrECisME]

What is a Flutist?

[@MollyOKami]

@@mrECisME "Flutist: someone who plays the flute…not to be confused with the flautist, who's someone who plays the flaute, which is a Scandinavian wind instrument that looks like a tuba but has hair on the bottom." 🤣 (Respect to everyone who knows the reference.) Seriously, though, both "flutist" & "flautist" are correct, but, "since I'm a dirty, rotten Yank," I have to use "flutist" for all of my fellow dumb Americans. 😅

[@SkylineFTW97]

Did concert band from 5th grade to senior year and marching band in high school myself, although I played trombone instead of the flute. Nothing this trashy would've been a thing when I was in band class, and I graduated in 2015. That seems to be right when shit started to really hit the fan.

[@Lucky-yh5np]

It appears the devil kept his end of the bargain

[@CEWIII9873]

skin flute?

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Lizzo is a prime example of EVERYTHING that's wrong with the modern day music industry.

[@krichardson113]

There’s so much wrong with it that even someone of her heft can only represent a small portion of the problem.

[@chilbiyito]

It's not the music industry if it didn't make money they wouldn't be doing it it's the culture of modern society that's rotten to the core

[@vaevictis_]

The only thing she has going for her is that she can actually play an instrument

[@whitehavencpu6813]

Lights- Ellie Goulding Back when music was still good.

[@Epic_C]

Not just the music industry

[@cinemint]

If she doesn't owe Madison the dignity of wearing pants while playing his instrument, then I don't owe her the dignity of.. well.. anything at all. She can go right off and leave me and my country alone.

[@PinballBob1]

@cine- You mean wearing a DRESS.

[@KopperNeoman]

It reminds me of how the Yankees treated King George's statue. A revolutionary movement descecrating or destroying that which counterrevolutionaries hold dear. The only thing that would make it more apt is repurposing the flute into a torture device with which to punish constitutionalists.

[@Embarrassed4U]

​@@KopperNeomansuck it, England.

[@wun1gee]

See this is where I have a problem with all of this. Lizzo didn't say that. Some nutjob journo at some irrelevant opinion blog said it. From what I've seen, Lizzo was respectful with the flute and did a damn good job playing it. She's obviously talented as a musician. She didn't make it about race or culture, she said "history is cool!" and she seemed genuinely happy to express her talent on a piece of history. That's pretty fucking cool IMO. But no. Instead of focusing on that we're focusing on some talentless journo planting their face in their keyboard and rolling it back and forth to create "content", and then holding the actual artist to that standard.

[@Remake5182]

It is a musical instrument

[@TheLastSoundNL]

Wow Brianna Wu can never go a day without gaslighting it seems, but that one is extreme... They absolutely said all women themselves. Repeating it "yes all women."

[@d-wizzel4217]

Also "believe women" implies the same exact thing as "believe all women", that when you are told by a woman that she was sexually assaulted, you should just believe her. Adding "all" is completely meaningless, "believe women" means exactly the same thing. It's literally just as general a phrase, just a blanket call to believe. Saying "oh but we just mean take them seriously" is fucking stupid. These mindless pithy phrases are so frustrating because as soon as you confront them, they just play motte-and-bailey and say the words don't mean what they obviously fucking mean. It's more word games and gaslighting, I'm surprised Dev conceded to her at all on that point.

[@Cassandra112]

@@d-wizzel4217 yeah exactly. if it was "believe women", and that meant "believe some women sometimes:", then it wouldn't have been said at all, as that was already the standard. "believe women" expressly means "believe all women, no matter what they say".

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Imagine going back in time and telling your 2010 self about Lizzo, showing yourself her perform and explaining how the left hails her as a hero and even calls her beautiful and a role model. You would think your future self was trolling you. Our society has deteriorated so much, in such a short time. And things were far from perfect in 2010, all of this started long before that, but the difference in just the last 10 or so years is mind blowing, I don't think a lot of us really realize or think about that, because we've been living in it, we're the frogs in a pot, slowly being brought to boil.

[@AspiringDevil]

It would not have shocked me at all. I've seen this so many times before. Dumb political larpers attaching themselves to a bad pop star is nothing unique.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

I think this is why Jordan Peterson "went crazy". He was basically in a coma for 3 years, and suddenly the world had gone made compared to his 3 years out of date values.

[@TheSpecialJ11]

This stuff is much older than 2010, it's just gone far more mainstream. The Boondocks was making fun of this behavior (black and white) back in 2004. I'm sure someone else did it earlier. Humans are still primates. It takes a lot of work to get us to act less like them. An easy life and an internet connection (and a large group of adults keeping civilization running) allows the rest of us to return to our monkey brain behavior.

[@metalmagerin3]

The irony of a short fat otaku named Short Fat Otaku describing the very process that makes him able to be successful on this platform and myself able to enjoy life, and agreeing with him, are all examples of how truly messed up our world is. I kinda like it. Your avatar is the embodiment of this video, and I love it.

[@RobzdaBlade]

Why I subbed to the guy as well. He has common sense still, and he's living near hell on earth in terms of social services.

[@joelsalyer5544]

This is surely going to be a very heavy topic and I think we all need to appreciate the gravity of the situation

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

I'm trying to wrap my arms around just how big this really is, but I can't.

[@PeterDivine]

Now, now, let's not blow this out of proportion

[@3alenciagaboots]

the weight of the question is heavy on my conscious

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

This is a very robust set of jokes going on. I'm proud of us. Good job everyone.

[@fordfreeman2248]

A whale of a situation indeed.

[@blairdurward4324]

Damn the sound of that flute is wonderful though, shame it wasn’t played more, real work of art.

[@evan12697]

That’s what I’m saying - should’ve had an actual recital

[@anonimuso]

Correction: Coronavirus wasn't the death knell for theaters. The death knell for theaters was the corporate media and governments reacting (and overreacting) without knowing whether the actions they were forcing on citizens were actually going to be effective.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

I'd go to the movies every weekend if they actually had good flicks idgaf about the rona.

[@TetsuRiken]

​@@dontcallthemliberals3316normaies are a bit diffrent though

[@konstancemakjaveli]

Soooooo... covid killed the theatres

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Hollywood needs to slow tf down and start reshowing older flicks to remind people why they ever loved movies in the first place. A smaller theater in my town splits evenly between current releases, and older movies. They're showing OppenBarbie and also some old classics, I forget which ones, but they're virtually unaffected by CV for that reason, among others. Hell they even sometimes have concerts. Diversify and proliferate is their model.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

@@viscountrainbows2857 Fuck no! ACCELERATE! Hollywood is not coming back. Nothing that grows in that part of the woods is organic anymore. Burn it to the ground so the pines can sprout once more. Or just acknowledge the entire consumerist cycle of bread and circuses is fucked up and bury it under cement.

[@matthanks1480]

"We should be promoting health, not the people who threw up their lunch, or ate the threw up lunch" I chuckled.

[@oo-bl5kx]

The conservatives are completely in the right here. There is no excuse for degrading tradition like this.

[@ResolvedMC]

​@@09f9to me, I see this as an opening for even worse performances with other historical symbols. Imagine if we see a photoshoot of lizzie twerking next to the Lincoln memorial. It's only a matter of time until that happens.

[@Drbeattles]

@@09f9 she's astroturfed bullshit. no way in hell did she get to where she is legitimately. i will go to my grave saying so as i cannot think of a single person who actually likes her stuff, and not just "likes" her because they were told to by the media.

[@goldsteed8832]

​@@ResolvedMCwell Lincoln was a tyrant and bastard the monuments his cult created in his name deserve to be desecrated

[@ArshesNei8]

Meh. I bet if Sergey Igorevich Stepanov (sexy sax guy) took that flute and air humped while playing it, conservatives wouldn't care.

[@honey3762]

I’ve noticed so many female singers and rappers always sing about sex. Maybe there are some exceptions, but those women became famous over ten years ago. If you want to become popular now you have be like billy elish and sing about having sex with guys you don’t care about.

[@honey3762]

Okay, maybe Tati from Jinjer is an exception but how many people in the mainstream know who she is?

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

​@@honey3762heavy metal doesn't count. It's the only remaining music genre that's actually about music, because there really isn't a mainstream for it. There are some groups who broke through into the mainstream, like Slipknot, Disturbed, or System of a Down, but they're exceptions. If you're getting into music to make money, metal isn't the way to go. So metal groups generally care about making music they really like, rather than getting rich and famous. And I'm sure there are real musicians in pop and country and all the rest too, but they're not the mainstream top 20 groups. Most mainstream, mega popular groups are mega popular because they appeal to the broadest audience possible. To do that, you usually have to be watered down and bland. Simple lyrics and idiot can understand and sing along to. Simple music that sounds the same as all the rest.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Controversy sells and sex sells. It was an inevitable end point of capitalism unfortunately. Same with shows, if you want to be the next big thing these days you have to piss people off. It's literally why we are here commenting right now.

[@masterphillips]

It's all they know, usually

[@oldskoolaspie]

This holds true with female standup comedians, as well.

[@Gorebag]

The aristocracy is degenerating publicly.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

It's surreal to see peasants acting more noble than our noblemen.

[@RachelRichards]

May I ask you for the source of your profile picture? I really like it.

[@Gorebag]

@@RachelRichards it’s from a Sega Genesis/Mega Drive platform game called Decap Attack.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

It's never the true aristocracy, it's always new money or children about to implode daddies empire. The real power knows better than this.

[@KopperNeoman]

@TheGreenKnight500 They're false nobles with stolen wealth - the type that Robin Hood fought.

[@orboakin8074]

Ironically, listening to your detailed explanations on these conservative topics and their reactions to post-modernism, Lizzofication in this case, it actually helps me put to words how I have come to define myself as a conservative. I too am genuinely irritated by the overly free lack of standards in modern society and I also define myself in opposition to all that, despite being a millennial. So, yeah, thanks for these explanations, Dev. Glad we have someone like you who has teh knowledge of philosophy and the liberal arts while not being a radical leftist.

[@justinboggin9086]

About the flute. Imagine there was some Canadian artifact that isn't well known but could easily be recognized to be a unique cultural artifact. I'm making this up on the spot but I could see such a thing existing. The horse shoes from the first horse drafted for the RCMP. Lizzo playing the flute would be the equivalent of Justin Castro strapping the shoes to his feet in a horse costume and dancing at some kind of festival. Obviously some kind of grave disrespect of Canadian cultural heritage has happened in this hypothetical.

[@SkylineFTW97]

I could see him doing that. We knew that he had allegations of sexual impropriety with his students when he was a substitute teacher, and his wife leaving him now is rumored to be over him possibly having a gay affair with one of his ministers. He's more or less a confirmed sex pest, the very demographic that engages in such things. Look at Sam Brinton as an example. Dude gets off on stealing women's clothes and wearing them in public.

[@elijahherstal776]

I'm a father, and I was talking to my own father recently about 'influences' on children. We both realized that it's far safer when your kids are into violent video games and heavy metal in 2023. Also, the shining moment of my life as a father: When my 7 year old daughter told my 5 year old son that she picked out a toy for him: an A-10 Warthog. And her words: "This isn't an airplane, it's a gun that flies". Tears in my eyes.

[@mcfarvo]

"So, I have to steal the crystal flute of James Madison to protect American culture, you say?" - Ben Gates (Nic Cage, "National Treasure")

[@OGamelon]

It's not about the flute, it's about what they're willing to defile. Little by little, they'll keep trying to go further.

[@kamuroshiryu8453]

I'm unsurprised that Lizzo didn't even break a knee whenever she danced unlike Nikocado Avocado.

[@WhitEagle7]

I always love how people people say "you have to accept who you are " and " you can be anything you want". These things are contradicting

[@TheFatalcrest]

Bruh the fact i just hear the historical significance of this flute and my first thought was "Why did we even give this to anyone? We should only use it for presidential or grand classical theater events?" Makes me so very sad we handed this to any modern artist that wouldn't show it the respect it deserves

[@GeorgeCowsert]

I think the Flute plays a bigger role than some give it credit for. It's one thing for a well established professional to simply gather a crowd, play a simple piece, then set the instrument down for the pure utility of answering the question of what the flute sounds like. It's another entirely for the antithesis to professionalism, a brash degenerate, to play the flute and make a show about how they are the one playing it. It is selfishness in its purest form. Literal priceless artifacts are priceless due to the care and history of the artifact. If you are to do anything to it, it should ONLY add to the object's significance. Lizzofication uses the significance of superior work to draw attention to the selfish, whom see no shame in violating the sanctity of old knickknacks.

[@everythingthrice2582]

Lizzo can play the flute and Nikocado Avocado can play the fiddle, it seems they both have ditched talent for controversy

[@harry_hydrogen]

I feel like I’m a pearl clutching Christian when I call out hedonistic drive in people. But it’s everywhere and championed as “empowering” or “what’s right” when almost every example of hedonistic intent in history leads to eventual downfall

[@varnix1006]

well, the age old adage of hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times.

[@BrianH1988]

Floutist, Dev. Floutist. Also I still see you're using Shinigami Eyes. Too interesting to see what gets marked and what doesn't?

[@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231]

Not to be confused with flautist, a person that makes flautas. Probably. I just made that up, and I have no idea if it's true, but I hope it is.

[@Eric_Hunt194]

#confidentlyincorrect

[@penguinsrockrgr8yt216]

I genuinely hate that she twerked with the flute Had she simply played it I feel most people wouldn’t have cared

[@Vidkid131]

That's most likely what sealed it for people. If she had played the flute honestly, showed it the respect asked of anyone handling things of value, then there would still be people bitching about how she only got to play it because of the cultural climate and the fact she is a fat black woman, but such complaints would have died down quickly because, well, even if that's what got her the opportunity, she used it well. Instead, she made it abundantly clear, at least in the second 'performance', that she didn't have that respect for the artifact and it's history. All she had in mind was what came after, the ability to say she had used it and had claimed some trophy in doing so. It was all about the achievement and being able to flaunt such, which she acquired in such a vulgar fashion, and it gave at least some credence to the complaints.

[@Remake5182]

@@Vidkid131 It is an flute, how does one respect it?

[@wingusdingus4958]

@@Remake5182 Not twerking with it perhaps.

[@Remake5182]

@@wingusdingus4958 Okay, twerking with a flute disrespects the flute. Got it.

[@SirSealandLister]

@@Remake5182Yes. When an object has a specific purpose, using it for any other purpose is disrespectful. When an object is very old and made of an extremely fragile material (like crystal) any unnecessary action is disrespectful. What would have happened if Lizzo put more effort into her dancing than she did in holding the flute for even a second? It would have fallen on the floor and shattered into a million pieces.

[@edanpino-xt1ph]

The fact that this woman was given Madison’s crystal flute is enough of a travesty to make me cry. It was the possession of a statesman, it should be handled by someone who would give it the respect it deserves

[@ChairmanMo]

It is sad that Madison has been constantly stressed out and driven mad by ratchetness. From the ratchetness of his stepson who wasted all of his money, to Dolly Madison who refused to discipline her boy and now even his treasures are being defiled again by ratchetness.

[@TheGodOfGravy]

The irony is that made the history of the flute much more decisively UNcool by treating it like any other instrument she would use on stage rather treating it solemnly.

[@sparks6177]

To be fair, you don’t have to personally value Maddison’s crystal flute to see it’s use here as a disgrace. Whatever a person might feel towards the object doesn’t inherently change what Lizzo did.

[@marcoaraiza9381]

Why do you care about a flute? You didn't even know it existed. OK so by that logic all new archeology can be safely destroyed because well, we didn't know it existed before

[@connerstines1578]

Some people need to discover Jethro Tull.

[@PvtFlowers]

they just put out a new album. It's dope!

[@L33Reacts]

I actually just heard them for the first time last week. They were dope! But I haven't heard the flute yet 😂

[@PvtFlowers]

@@L33Reacts thick as a brick is a 10/10 song

[@L33Reacts]

@AgentAlloy I think thats the next song my subs voted for. I'll be doing a video for it this week :)

[@connerstines1578]

@@L33Reacts If can appreciate it(Thick As A Brick) though it's 20 minutes long, you might give the album Tales From Topographic Oceans by Yes a listen. The first song " The Revealing Science Of God" is still my favorite long song, Close To The Edge is also great.

[@TheBurg229]

I have a feeling that if a Lizzo concert caught fire, I shouldn't look back at it else I turn into a pillar of salt.

[@draketheduelist]

It's not about "restrictions on freedom always bad". It's "restrictions placed by _others_ bad" because a restriction placed by someone else doesn't account for your own intimate knowledge of your situation that no one else could have. Though both are limits on your "fun", there's a vast ethical difference between the government controlling you and self-control.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

sometimes they're not bad though. if you want to be an alcoholic and your gf says "if you drink i'm dumping you" that's an external restriction, one which would be good for you to abide by

[@draketheduelist]

@@ShortFatOtaku What if she said the same about drinking soda? Or eating meat? Or owning a gun? Or going to church? An individual will always know their own situation better than an outside party, and will always face the consequences of their choices as an individual. An outside party can advise, but they cannot mandate. Even the edicts of a parent are temporary, intended to get the child to the point where they can make decisions of their own at least somewhat intact. I've gone against my parents' advice tons of times because I know my situation, I've done the computations, and I accept the risks. But the external restrictions of, say, a government or a significant other operate indefinitely, which is a problem when their effectiveness is merely an educated guess _at best._

[@ambmamb8370]

interesting@@draketheduelist

[@IGSA101]

Total freedom should mean total responsibility, that's the world I want to see. All those vices should be allowed and accepted (with the exception of certain drugs as they can harm people around the addicts and not just the addicts themselves), but the people need to understand that they are responsible for the results of their actions.

[@3eve0n]

exactly, freedom has to come with accountability

[@crimsonking440]

Alchoholism also hurts the people around the alcoholic. Should it be made illegal to drink? Seems like an arbitrary line to draw between them. If the harm that's being put upon those close to addict is already illegal, how would making the drug also illegal improve the situation? I agree with 90% of what you wrote, but that just seems irrational to me.

[@GeneralProfessor]

Absolute freedom and absolute freedom from all consequences and responsibilities of absolute freedom. Anything less is oppression.

[@IGSA101]

@@crimsonking440 Alcoholism itself doesn't do harm to anyone but the alcoholic, their actions while drunk do. Being drunk is like being hypnotized, you still won't do something you'd never do sober, so it's still your responsibility to not hurt people while drunk. On the other hand, take smoking for instance, doesn't matter what you smoke you are harming others with it. Second hand smoke has proven to be just as if not more damaging than the actual smoking, since the person breathing in the second hand smoke hasn't built up any resistances from use of whatever the smoker is smoking. Alcohol is harmful if drunk by someone who shouldn't be drinking, but second hand smoke hurts everyone around the smoker, just for having the audacity to breathe near them.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

I do not. Not in public spaces because that forces unwilling people to participate in what you're doing. It's fine in private however. A good example is fetishes that include being observed. I shouldn't be forced to participate just because you desire it.

[@HaywireRides]

Alright but just saying nobody wants to go outside and see movies is sort of interesting following the lines around the theater I saw when seeing Oppenheimer

[@grahamrobbins7926]

Well, I guess we can look forward to the birth of Slaanesh and the Eye of Terror...

[@sdbzfan1]

Hey Dev could you talk about the Baldur's Gate situation From game devs complaining it shouldnt be the new standard because its too unique to the blatant two faceness of the the games media talking about its sexual content as somehow good compared to anime ecchi its such an overall dumpster fire of a situation that it reminds me of the JRPG is a slur situation a while back

[@nobalkain624]

I think the first Twerking was her just doing something "naughty" at the end, just because she could. The second time though was to cause an uproar, because she wanted to. I felt the first she was a bit disrespectful to act that way with something like that. The second time was Shameful, but since they lent it to her after the first time its clear they where okay with it. Those in charge of it clearly care as much about it as she does. The anger should not be directed at her, but those in charge at the Museum.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

You always manage to lay out these vital concepts in the most clear way possible with just enough adequate examples. Just want to say, I really appreciate it. Thank you Dev.

[@Bottlekiller]

Dev, I think there might actually be a genuine content niche on KZbin (and in general) which basically conists of explaining normie drama to non-normies.

[@xenosayain1506]

Lol lizzo. I did this to a girl at work and she nearly lost her job for hitting me. She praised body positivity and brought up lizzo is beautiful. I just told her, "have you been gaining for positivity? You're looking like lizzo and those lumpy curves are fire" she lost her damn mind. People who praise lizzy get honest fast when compared to her.

[@Spit1990]

Lumpy curves😂

[@Tubuxis]

This never happened

[@xenosayain1506]

@@Tubuxis if you say so mr all knowing

[@cantcontinue4039]

I see you're polishing up on your creative writing skills.

[@thomashalliwell1484]

And then everyone clapped

[@jankostrhun8725]

Honestly I am not even from the US and this twerkerification kinda upset me. I don't need to personally care or even know about any particular historical treasure and still feel revolution when they are vandalized or vulgarized.

[@_Devil]

I remember seeing HBO commercials early this year about a Lizzo concert, and the first words of the commercial said "In a world where you can be anything, be yourself!", and nowadays that line should be changed. "In a world where you can be anything, be yourself! Unless you're fat in which case you can't dance for me!"

[@lXedalinl]

This kinda reminds me of when Kim put Marylin's dress on for that event. It's like they're taking things and trying to make it about themselves lame asf.

[@Shafterr]

The fact that her heart hasn’t sputtered and stopped completely after decades of being smothered in dense layers of blubber is nothing short of divine intervention, perhaps from a higher love…

[@Gulgathydra]

re 3:13 It's "flautist", not "flute-ist". ...for some reason.

[@Spit1990]

Makes me want mexican food.

[@corenlavolpe6143]

I gaged when I saw that disgusting ham planet on my screen, . . . Then I turned on my phone and clicked on this video.

[@WednesdayFin86]

This inspired me to go to Japan and ask to get my hand on their imperial regalia. Maybe be emperor lets me swing Kusanagi-no-Tsurugi around in my Naruto cosplay even though no one has wielded or even seen it in public since Prince Yamato.

[@matteomastrodomenico1231]

Is Hollywood truly on its last leg? I really struggle to believe that theaters are still struggling in the same year we got the Mario movie and Barbie. Not to mention last years' blockbusters like Jurassic World, Maverick and Avatar.

[@Larry]

It's a flute, it's sole purpose of existing is to be played, not sat in a box for the rest of eternity.

[@Harley_Mitchelly]

HELLO YOU... Every time I see you in one of these comments sections, it makes me feel a bit warm over how small the world is.

[@anguishedcarpet]

God Lizzo looks like an absolute beast, a couple thousand years ago she would have been the fertility goddess they sculpted idols of lmfao

[@catreecemacleod7556]

When everyone around you is starving to death, the ideal of beauty is the person who's rich enough to be fat. When everyone around you is rich enough to be fat... just saying there's a reason that, as the world's economies are collapsing, that this is being pushed harder than ever.

[@crispyandspicy6813]

A evil goddess. One that tricks men with songs and eats their crops at night

[@dantenotavailable]

I can't help but feel that "Believe Women" vs "Believe All Women" is a Motte and Bailey.

[@eleccy]

Exactly. It's a non point from Brianna that is being tactically retreated from. Like everything Brianna does.

[@lemond2007]

She doesn't even twerk WELL. Just remember what the Shoveler said when describing his superpower: "I shovel well."

[@SkullivanBones]

To be fair that little twerk she did at the library was whatever, just having some fun. The issue was when she went on stage dressed like a stripper with it, At least imo.

[@summ.3433]

They're both bad because it was adding insult to injury and shows that Lizzo clearly knew what she was doing and did not care about treating it with respect, which makes it worse.

[@roymarshall_]

Dev I just want to say that I really appreciate your balanced and careful approach to these topics, its a lot easier to show this to somebody who leans a bit left. They wont immediately have a negative knee jerk reaction to what you are saying like they would with most other non-lefty content creators out there.

[@battlebrothertifesrolilios4423]

Watching a ticktok Tuesday to unwind after the gym before going on with my day has been a staple of my summer this year, thank you so much SFO

[@ShortFatOtaku]

make dem gainz

[@battlebrothertifesrolilios4423]

@@ShortFatOtaku lol, thats the idea

[@Quintarus1794]

She can obviously play the flute quite well. If she had just played the flute like a normal human being, literally no one would have cared. There is absolutely nothing about being fat, a woman, or black that prevents one from acting with decorum.

[@ninonook677]

Its more than enough to know that it’s disrespectful when the first person to use a crystal flute that hasn’t been blown in for century’s, twerk miserably on it. But since I just learned about it, it’s history never existed :T

[@The_Union_of_X]

The membership is paying in gold or in the case fat

[@IndirectSoter]

Well he does have a lot of it.

[@Rockhard1492]

"The good man, though a slave, is free; the wicked, though he reigns, is a slave, and not the slave of a single man, but - what is worse - the slave of as many masters as he has vices." - St. Augustine

[@rujv200]

It's like using the holy grail to put out a cigarette.

[@kpsychopath]

How the meaning of "Twerking" has been lessend to basically just mean "lightly shaking of the but"

[@darkzeroprojects4245]

Like how it's treated as a common thing instead of being a sexual arousing routine

[@dfmrcv862]

Huh... I had forgotten about this. Yeah, that was... Hmm... Looking back, I can actually sorta see both sides perspectives as- Oh right she twerked with it... Uhhhhggghhhh... This is honestly one of those issues I just don't want to deal with at all.

[@mcfarvo]

3/5 Compromise is anti-Slavery as the slave States wanted all slaves to be counted as 1 full person to bolster census numbers to give more representation in Congress, etc.

[@specimenlarry6068]

5:05 Our era of history will be known as The Great Retardning

[@Wolfiegreenwood]

Urgh. I'd almost forgotten about that Imagine thing. Thanks.

[@LCKnecht]

Well done, with one caveat: a person that plays a flute is called a Floutist, not a Flutist.

[@DarkVeghetta]

Liberty must be tempered with responsibility. As with all things, it is the dose that makes the poison.

[@Lissbirds]

Something that never added up for me regarding respecting Madison's flute: what about respecting the craftsman who made it? It's disrespectful to art and craftsmanship.

[@TheHylianJuggalo]

When I said I was fine with being "exposed" to things, Dev, I meant new political ideas, not the "indecent" use of the term.

[@masteroogway6660]

If all these girls think Lizzo is a queen and a 10/10 beauty, why do they all get so salty when I compliment them saying they look alot like her?

[@crispyandspicy6813]

they don't like liars or men with eyesight problems (which is definetely ableist)

[@masteroogway6660]

@crispyandspicy6813 liars? Most modern urban women do look more like Lizzo than Keira Knightley, it's not a fault in our eyesight to notice it

[@basementabilly]

I think this was about as fair and reasonable a treatment of a massive minefield of topics as I could want. Thanks, man 👍

[@AxLHose]

Lizzo is currently diving the depths of the pacific ocean hiding from Japanese harpoons

[@MyriadColorsCM]

You know, the fact that Lizzo actually KNOWS how to play the flute makes it worse: show she has no respect for the musical instrument, at all, just like she has no respect for music itself, just the use she can make of the flute for politics.

[@Epic_C]

She has no respect for herself or others either, so why would she care about a flute?

[@RobertWHurst]

One thing that frustrates me more than anything is when Conservatives refuse to acknowledge the difference between modernism and postmodernism. These are not the same, being that one is constructive innovation, and the other is destructive criticism.

[@AspiringDevil]

It's because they wish to reject the modern but that is much harder to attack.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

Modernism isn't always good either. That's like claiming all change is good when it's not. There have been many innovations created that had some type of benefit that were rejected by the population because the risk outweighed the benefit. Implanting chips under the skin so important information is always with you is an example. It definitely offers benefits but it comes with the risk of easy access for people who have bad intentions. The same is true with implanting them in the brain. For medical reasons they're absolutely a good thing, but brain surgery just so I can change the TV channel with my mind doesn't sound like a good tradeoff.

[@RobertWHurst]

@debanydoombringer1385 I didn't claim all expressions of modernism are always good, just that modernism is very different than postmodernism - one being antithetical to the other.

[@robinfox4440]

I'm so glad I studied the history of modernism at university. So much of what you say about the "modernist impulse" rings true.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

@2:50 - Now the bank owns the flute. "I'm taking this flute to the demolition derby! Woot, I love my job as a bank manager!"

[@st.ambroseofbierce8980]

You would never know to look at Lizzo that she actually plays the flute quite beautifully. She does everything to hide it.

[@animeproblem1070]

An item with that much historical value and tradition no matter how irrelevant to the regular person should not be treated with such irreverence and disrespect that's why people don't like her playing the flute because it's about the respect that people hold to history and tradition and that matters

[@friendlyfire7861]

I'd never heard of the flute either; of course I hadn't. Yet it was still an affront for her to play it. Not because it hadn't been played for a long time if ever, but because the display was purposely degrading.

[@BoSmith7045]

I never heard of it before all this either but all I felt was anxiety when she was holding it with those goofy fake claws. The all I could do was roll my eyes but she just can't stand to act like she has any decorum.

[@10thletter40]

I thought it was "flautist" Checkmate SFO, opinion rejected

[@manofculture584]

Brianna Wu is notorious for trying to rewrite history..it was the right wing that said the feminist position is "believe all women". Okay😂😂 so if you say believe women, are you saying there are some women that shouldn't be believed? If not what's the difference between that and believing all women?

[@fiendwoutaface]

First clip: wow she is great at playing the flute she should play it more Second clip: NOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!!!!

[@irekaias]

Absolute individual freedom ...leads to absolute self-opression, with no kits to break, the self becomes an indeterminate blob