The Storybook Of Reality

meanwhile i think everybody heard about the third big pedestrian car crash story of this past week, where one of rittenhouse's attackers got ran down. goes to show, you only hear about news if you care about it
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[@McNinjacid]

It's like followers of dev, people who follow his gaming channel are like whoa he's so active lately, where as people who follow his political channel thought he'd gone AWOL.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

I'm the latter person 😂

[@chrissant6277]

@@stigmaoftherose Yea but TTT is great lmao

[@redalertsteve_]

Gone Away without Leave? That dont make sense

[@deagle2yadome696]

i first found this guy thru his devonitized channel and i went around calling him devonetized and then i got cyber bullied

[@5hr1mp0]

Same@@stigmaoftherose

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Leftists be like: "UNIONS ARE ALWAYS GOOD, THEY CAN DO NO WRONG!" 4:36 *Police unions be like*

[@markzuckergecko621]

Lmao, don't ya love it? I am yet to get any kind of coherent answer when I point that out to lefties that go on their anti police soapbox.

[@gamera5160]

The Police Union and the Teacher's Union are both garbage. Defenders of bad teachers and bad police and targeting good ones.

[@georgebailey8179]

Also Leftists: The state is good and should have more power given to it. Everyone else: So more funding and powers to the police? Leftists: No! The state is evil and can't be trusted with that sort of power.

[@markzuckergecko621]

​@@georgebailey8179also leftists: police are racist fascists!!! Also also leftists: citizens shouldn't have guns!!! Normal people: so only criminals and fascist cops can have guns? Leftists:

[@Noperare]

Also, teachers unions protecting child predators. If you are a female teacher and r@ped a student you get way with a slap in the wrist.

[@-lloygic-3565]

12:13 - "Leftists tend to do more on the ground activism than rightists" Let's be honest, this is primarily because rightist activism is often made illegal. Example: Covid lockdowns that lifted the Covid restrictions for protesting George Floyd's death, but not for protesting lockdowns.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

Or the *trucker* protests in Canada. Might be an interesting video topic

[@ulaznar]

Also, I'd bet that most of the people that do marches are usually unemployed, which fits more to the left than to the right

[@conradmills4977]

TEA Party and the IRS crackdown too: not illegal de jure, but illegal de facto through enforcement methods.

[@gregajohnson1985]

AntiFa vs Proud Boys. who gets more negative legal action and media attention?

[@LordVader1094]

@@KyriosHeptagrammaton Dev would never lol

[@SouthernGothicYT]

As a right winger, it's just inherently harder to watch left leaning content because of the insane mischaracterization of right wingers. It's frustrating to be called every name in the book when you really just want practical solutions to issues that'd help both sides. On the tendency to protest between left and right wing people: we already know how we'll be smeared the second twitter/the media finds out. A lot of us either don't want to risk it or just don't think it'll do anything. Edit for a great example: I really wanted to go to the J6 protest but couldn't - now I'm glad I was at work that day to prove my innocence.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

that isn't unique to the left though. how many times do dumb rightoids call biden a communist?

[@Cresent12]

​@@ShortFatOtakuGetting called a comunist is taken as a joke or a dumb insult. Getting called a racist, transphobe, homophobe is losing your job. It's not the same thing you know that

[@rebralhunter6069]

​@@Cresent12it's not just communist that gets used, and to pretend that's it is also a lie.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

@@Cresent12 we both know that there's ABSOLUTELY a huge swath of rightoids out there who genuinely believe biden is a communist

[@SouthernGothicYT]

@@ShortFatOtaku bro how many leftists got fired for protesting? They'd get promoted in a lot of companies. The right did it twice, J6 and Charlottesville: both times are called hate events or terrorism.

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

I guarantee you the simple reason the reason the latter video didn't go viral in general right-wing circles is obviously because the reaction is direct and universal among the Right, "If he did hit and kill a woman, charge him with third-degree murder/reckless endangerment for disobeying Police procedures". Videos of lone individual cops committing crimes have always gotten that type of reaction, such as when an officer in South Carolina was caught on camera by a third-party seemingly letting a person he had pulled aside go, and then shooting him in the back. No one made a huge stink about it because the officer was immediately charged with murder and the third-party's video was prime evidence for the charge. Curiously enough, the leftwing media didn't spread that video around the way they spread the story of Michael Brown from Furgeson, because the officer was clearly committing a crime in the tape and was immediately charged with a fitting offense for it, unlike in Brown's case where evidence came out shortly after the initial Left-wing narrative was set that Brown had robbed a store, was disobeying jaywalking laws, was recognized after a minute by the officer that told him to get off the road, and tried to take the officer's gun when he came back around to double-check on Michael.

[@markzuckergecko621]

The left never cares about clear and obvious examples of police wrongdoing, because they can't sew division that way. They find the most ridiculous, indefensible criminals who get killed doing stupid criminal shit and hold them up as martyrs. That way they can tell who's on their team, because you have to be 100% ideologically captured to buy their narratives.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

A similar story (also in south carolina) was of a female cop who plowed into an elderly couple going at high speeds and it only went viral in the lowcountry area. Hell, the Alex Murdaugh case is HUGE and nobody talks about it!!

[@brycenlanager1216]

I think you're mixing up George Floyd's story and the case of Michael Brown, but your point still stands.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

normal conservatives don't really want two tiered justice so your right, they'd just want the cop charged.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

Yep, there is still a difference even though the events are similar.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

My grandpa was killed by a driver while biking. Total accident. Guy was probably going a bit above the speed limit, grandpa probably wasn't checking the turn correctly, but still. Ten years later and I miss him. He was a legend, vetern, pillar of the community. It was a horrible tragedy for hundreds of people, including the driver. Seeing these kids laughing about it, and doing it on purpose hurts. Hurts real bad.

[@TomPlantagenet]

I’m sorry for your loss. I cycle a bit and I can tell you that the roads are getting more dangerous

[@hellacoorinna9995]

I like that Ayala's Mum is all _"No sé si Dios podrá perdonar esto."_ instead of trying defend her sh*tbag son.

[@Embarrassed4U]

Friends don't let friends ride bikes in traffic

[@gregajohnson1985]

sadly, they probably won't get much penalty for it. they might be someone's "girlfriend" in juvy for a couple months, then come out with a tattooed teardrop, and a new reputation among their idiot friends.

[@dirt_dert_durt]

Both killers are awful. There. I'm normal. It's not hard, guys

[@sterlinga8307]

Really... you know the police one was BS right? That wasn't him laughing and joking about it, it was someone from the police union talking to someone else. It was a cop car speeding in an emergency, just like an ambulance.

[@kong732ify]

This is the only right answer

[@thatroxxguy]

But no wait, what sides are they on? I need to check if they align with my team first, before I show normal human decency and compassion.

[@FerdinandFake]

​@@sterlinga8307 cops are only allowed to speed with sirens and lights, for obvious reasons. Not just like an ambulance

[@kong732ify]

@@sterlinga8307 Even if the cop making light of the situation wasn’t the same one who struck the victim, it doesn’t change the fact that the cop who killed her was behaving extremely negligently by not having his lights and siren on, and that the other cop’s response wasn’t grossly callous given the severity of what his associate did. The mainstream media may have misreported here, but that doesn’t mean that either of them are any less culpable just because the blame is shared.

[@Doug-89]

The joking police officer was the person dispatched to conduct an onsite drug test on the officer that struck the woman. He was also the deputy of their local police union.

[@PeterDivine]

See, both cops are awful, callous, and reckless, but bare minimum credit where it is due, the cop at least had the moral credit to own up to his mistake after the fact. The breathing pap-smears that went joyriding didn't even care that they killed a dude. They actively boasted that they were planning on getting out in a month as juveniles. It might be useful to see how echo chambers operate on both left and right sides as well as their consequences, but I feel it's false equivalence to compare these two as "equally bad." One of them is corrupt; the other is corruption in a human skin suit.

[@grimnir8872]

@@PeterDivine fact is if we took a hatchet to the neck of 100 police officers, we'd probably make society worse even if we struck down a good few bad cops, if we took a hatchet to 100 latinos and 100 blacks, we'd do nothing but improve society. And Dev can't cope with that cold hard fact.

[@lunamaria8788]

​@@PeterDivine SKINWALKERS?

[@nicholashodges201]

​@@PeterDivinefor #2 it really depends on which body cam you are talking about. The 1st makes no jokes, his tone is flat and sounds like he's forcing himself to speak calmly. There's nothing that can be inferred from him. All we can tell is that he F'd up and is completely aware of the fact. Cam 2 is a completely different story, and also appears to be a completely different person.

[@Pangora2]

@@PeterDivine Being a Union steward, I had to defend people who did driving "accidents". Gallows humor is what it is. If he's just talking to someone else, what is he supposed to do, hyperventilate while driving and recalling the story? The Union guy probably has to do this a lot.

[@RAP-SKULLION]

There's a pretty big difference between these two stories: one was an accident caused by criminal negligence, the other was just murder.

[@jamesgollinger208]

I hadn't heard about the policeman incident, but did anyone notice that it was in Seattle? Because the first thing that springs to my mind is "here's what happens when you defund the police, the only people who will work for you are sociopaths". So, to rephrase, one was an accident, likely caused by the systemic lowering of hiring standards necessitated by far left policies, and the other was an intentional act of murder. Not the same.

[@nicklasveva]

I got mad at both of these stories, but I noticed that I got a lot more mad at the kids. Probably because they intended to hurt people. And the other guy was just a negligent asshole.

[@CompassionOverHate]

The only reason the cop one was considered negligence is because cops are shielded from wrongdoing. If you're in a position of power you have to respect protocol, otherwise you're just a criminal. The fact that he didn't put his lights and siren on, drove 3 times the speed limit and hit someone shows an utter lack of respect for that protocol. Also just to add to this, the teenage brain is considered on par with a psychopath's brain in that the connections for risk/reward haven't properly developed so a teen might do something stupid that they would never do as an adult. Thus no, I think the "negligence" story is much worse because you have a grown adult showing an utter lack of remorse for killing someone shortly after abusing their power and ignoring protocol.

[@nicklasveva]

@@CompassionOverHate I guess I was Einstein as a kid. Since I could weigh risk/reward pretty much perfectly. Can't say that I was normal though. And running people over isn't standard procedure. That's not normal teenager behaviour.

[@surprisedchar2458]

@@CompassionOverHatefound the leftie

[@anonymous-yf6ur]

The second story became famous mostly because the Indian Internet was super furious. It was in the news for 2 days(this was also during g20 so it'sa big deal if news were covering anything other than it). I didn't expect it to be a big thing in American left-wing circles because it was a big thing in Indian right-wing circles and the one thing Indian right hates more than Indian left-wing/ccp, it's the American left-wing...

[@anonymous-yf6ur]

Like, that was the shit everyone talked about for one whole day in Indian twitter. Also it was during cricket Asia cup… and one thing Indians are more obsessed than being engineers or doctors, it’s cricket matches. But this story drowned even the cricket matches for a day. Which is impressive

[@malicekerendu3574]

A lot of right wingers hate american left wingers more than their own.

[@tartrazine5]

It's hilarious how India is pissed that Canada (really some other Five Eyes country) spied on their diplomats talking about assassinating someone in our country.

[@miffedcuttlefish6139]

Have I become a centrist? I usually consider myself conservative. I'm pissed at both of these cases, NOT being reported truthfully. Theyre horrible.

[@xX_Pokeman_Xx]

I wouldn't say you're a centrist for being pissed at these stories. It just means you're not fringe. Needless deaths should piss people off, regardless of political persuasion.

[@eliaspanayi3465]

I would consider this position a true Conservative. There are morons on all sides who are dishonest at best and at worst outright malicious.

[@MikeHunt-zy3cn]

Same mate. Both of these are horrid and should be dealt with accordingly. Senseless violence must be snuffed out.

[@sabiti5428]

Centrist? Nah bruh you're a killdozertarian 😎

[@Nukestarmaster]

Honestly, I've been kind of desensitized to violence, these random acts of violence/callus disregard of human life is so pervasive that I can't even have a strong emotional reaction to them any more.

[@DeusExMachina10001]

Sorry Dev, there's nothing you or anyone else can say that'll ever get me to watch CNN or Fox.

[@simonpetrikov3992]

Honestly I agree with that

[@jamesgollinger208]

I honestly don't care about slant, but if I catch a news agency telling a lie, I'll never go back (looking at you CBC).

[@ChaoticNeutralMatt]

It's not the occasional lie, so much as never going back to correct themselves. No care for authenticity. And a complete dedication to a particular view, with little nuance.

[@RhoDesia-gr1wb]

lolololol even a lot of boomers have gotten tired of fox (for different reasons though lol)

[@pseudo_goose]

I didn't hear about either of these, so I think I'm doing pretty well at ignoring both sides.

[@hattimounattimou8258]

i was gonna ask if you live under a rock, but then i realised affording a place to live isnt an insult

[@remyllebeau77]

@@hattimounattimou8258 Beach front rock, luxury views, bathroom in the bushes out back.

[@Bufekana]

look up " aktual justice warrior"

[@jejethejeplalq821]

The only way to live😉 Fuck clown world.

[@robinthrush9672]

Only heard of the Las Vegas one a couple days ago, never heard of the Seattle one until today.

[@ch1ppy755]

I can’t wait until you cover the former Ukrainian Waffen SS dude that the Canadian parliament gave a standing ovation for.

[@cosmosyn2514]

i think he mentioned a monument to members of the ukranian SS in a video before w some context about it, cant remember which one though

[@tann_man]

I'm still waiting on the trucker video

[@maxwelleschete332]

14th SS was cleared of wrongdoing at Nuremberg

[@sauronplugawy3866]

As a Polish person i was so fucking pissed of about this that i wanted russians to carpet bomb the fucking place.

[@TonySandMan]

@@tann_man come on guy, you know that's not happening

[@BigScreamingBaby]

Just a small correction about the second story. It wasn't the cop who hit her laughing about it, it was the detective investigating the case. Edit: dev mentioned it

[@niceguy2527]

That's not a small correction - that's pretty key to the news story. Well done.

[@Embarrassed4U]

It was also a guy investigating the incident mocking the response he expects from the city attorneys not him laughing at a dead girl.

[@OliveOilFan]

It’s actually sickening seeing our kids and people nowadays have no morals or disgust when commiting their actions like the kids who ran over the cyclist That and teachers saying kids in grades are getting dumber, I’m actually afraid of the future and how the future generations will act like

[@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle]

This is the natural progression of an atheistic society. Morals assume that there is an objective truth which we subjective creatures cannot create ourselves so it stems from the belief in a higher objective power.

[@markzuckergecko621]

Leftists are just bad people, it's really that simple. We can talk all day about where society went wrong, and why leftists believe the things they believe, but no matter what path you take, you always end up at the inevitable conclusion that leftists are just selfish, immoral people who only care about their own desires.

[@devinglass9967]

It’s a racial issue. You don’t see Asian kids running down bicyclists, just blacks and sometimes Hispanics. We have a country that worships diversity and the most violent minorities, and this is what we get.

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle The pendulum will swing back and another Christian denomination will come out as moral guardians once again, don't worry.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle I see you waste no time blaming your religious enemy for your troubles instead of the obvious true enemy, the leftists.

[@darkalleyrambler8520]

Me: That's some effed up things they did. Dev: The victim was a former police chief. Me: Oh BOY, forget the book, those boys getting the whole library thrown at them. Also me: Oh wait, I live in the current year.... that is somehow not a given.

[@alexzanderroberts995]

They were marked down at white, the book is gonna be thrown at them.

[@Rofel_Wodring]

@@alexzanderroberts995 Doesn't that prove actual systemic racism? But not in the way we've been told

[@alexzanderroberts995]

@@Rofel_Wodring just from a logical point of view, if they mark that these kids are minorities, then people will come to defend them. But if they are marked down as white, no one cares. The Cops just want these kids in jail, and are willing to lie to do it.

[@markzuckergecko621]

@@Rofel_Wodring lots of things prove systemic racism against whites and Asians.

[@TacitusKilgore165]

They'll just say the guy on the bike said the gamer word and get a 10 million dollar settlement when they sue the city

[@kiofea]

The activism difference between left/left-leaning and right/right-leaning could be chalked up to right/right-leaning people actually having a job. I'm only half-joking...

[@ShortFatOtaku]

that's probably it actually

[@priapulida]

the Left also has a vastly larger NGO-activism-industrial complex.. many of these protests are not organic

[@markzuckergecko621]

Right wingers are also less likely to impose their views on others. It's a big reason we lose on cultural issues so frequently, we think being correct and principled is good enough, and reasonable people don't need to be told what to think. Which is true. The problem is a lot of people are not reasonable.

[@mrshmuga9]

I mean, you could plan something on a weekend if you care enough. I think the difference is each side’s methodology behind protesting. Leftists will protest to bring awareness to an issue, but not have any concrete goals on what/how to change. Rightists look at it more practically. They’ll only protest if they want something specific changed and have a plan for it, like the 1 Million March recently to stop gender ideology in classrooms. So in this scenario, protesting won’t do anything. Murderers exist, and you can’t do anything more to these individuals than arrest them. It’s not that it’s not terrible or doesn’t deserve coverage, but a protest won’t bring forth any change to prevent it in the future. And thus, there’s not practical reason/outcome to protesting over this.

[@rebralhunter6069]

No this is defo a big part

[@sparks6177]

Dev, you miss a crucial part of this comparison. One is of a planned hit and run and the other seems to be an accident. At worst the officer is guilty of manslaughter and he at least showed some amount of remorse and care towards his victim. The men who ran over an old man though? They showed that they knew exactly what they were doing even saying that they were going to hit him, then laughed about it and went on to steal more cars and attempt to hit more pedestrians. After they were arrested they showed no remorse or care and again acted as if their crime was nothing serious, boasting about being out in 30 days. These crimes aren’t comparable, they are both bad but one is almost pure evil with a callousness not often seen and the other was a mistake made by someone who at least had the decency to apologize. Maybe the officer should go to jail, i don’t know, the facts aren’t out and there’s been too many times we’ve been lied to about the details of these situations. For the hit and run we have video evidence showing the lead up and aftermath of the crime, it’s damning enough for me to say I’ve seen enough to know they are guilty. I think everything I stated above is contributing to why you are seeing a inconsistent portrayal of the stories and an inconsistent reaction. We can call this political all we want but the reality is that most people, regardless of ideology, usually see evil and are disgusted by it, while mistakes are something everyone can and will make in their life.

[@Bizagro]

The policeman was criminally wrong - obviously The kids were criminally wrong - obviously The media is criminally wrong - this should be obvious …of note, those kids hit 2 other bicyclists that day.

[@wheezer6695]

The policeman is definitely a shitbird that should get the book thrown at him, the kids deserve the library and the foundation it's built on

[@Embarrassed4U]

The officer was negligent. The teenagers were murderers and violent psychopaths.

[@FunkBastid]

And a 4th biker inexplicably collapsed on his own

[@Good100]

I love it when Dev equivocates the lefty who wants to ban him with the righty who chooses not to listen. Definitely the same thing. Plus, the really outrageous part of the lefty story (the laughing perp) may not be true anyway, so it's starting to look like the right wing's lack of outrage was actually justified. It was an accidental killing by a foolish cop, with no callous racial angle on his part. You could say that somebody should be more outraged about the guy who actually did the laughing, but apparently that story is even still developing anyway. Who knows, maybe there will be? Not to mention that plenty of Republicans and conservatives jumped on the bandwagon of St. Floyd long before all the details came out, which sort of dampens your "the right only cares about right-leaning stories" thesis. That said, I think the real reason there's no righty outrage is that it's not necessary. The media and the lefties already took care of that. Why join a lefty race hustle that'll eat you alive anyway when they find out you actually just want to critique the individual, and not the evil cops?

[@jamesgollinger208]

Also, maybe the Right tends to wait for the facts before rounding up a lynch mob? BLM, which enjoyed universal support from the Left, turned out to be a total grift. Whereas the Right tends to be much more sceptical and will turn more quickly on organisations that turn out to by hypocritical.

[@wyatttyson7737]

Those two stories aren’t even close to the same thing. In the police story, even if it was the same guy being callus and disgustingly cold, it was still an accident. The cop didn’t mean to hit her. The two young men did. They got in that car with the intent to cause harm. They ran their victim over on purpose.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

An accident caused by gross negligence though. but either way, both are terrible.

[@wyatttyson7737]

@@KyriosHeptagrammaton Yes, absolutely, gross negligence doesn’t even begin to cover it. However, that doesn’t mean it was on purpose, or that it wasn’t an accident. If right after it happened the officer could go back in time 10 minutes and stop it from happening he would have. For the two young men if they had the opportunity to go back in time 10 minutes and stop themselves they wouldn’t. Well, they might have gone back to do it again and laugh at it a second time, but they’d still do it. If they didn’t get prosecuted for it they’d happily do it a hundred times. Thats the difference and why the two really can’t be compared.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

@@wyatttyson7737 So long as you don't use that as a reason to dismiss the tragedy of the young woman's death

[@nickelakon5369]

​@@KyriosHeptagrammatonwho is? Please show any examples.

[@nickelakon5369]

​@KyriosHeptagrammaton not to mention, a tragedy doesn't need a guilty party. If you look into it there was only 12 seconds between him receiving the call and the impact, do you honestly think his lights would have made a difference? I'm sorry I'm just not seeing how the cop can be at fault even by negligence given the facts.

[@Deadlychuck84]

How is it that we ended up in a political paradigm where only the extremists of one political faction end up talking about the popular events of other political faction? It really makes you wonder if that was natural or if it's artificial to create a false perception of the opposition being defined by their fringe extremists

[@n7quantum472]

Extremists are consumed by the optics. And so they CANNOT concede even a single thing.

[@robinthrush9672]

Raised too much on teen/early 20-something media critics ragging on bad movies and games rather than discussing the merits of good movies?

[@falaramal3979]

First story 1 degree homicide. Second story terrible accident resulting in man slaughter. Dev’s conclusion: ah yes these two situations are totally comparable

[@niceguy2527]

It's actually insane. And on top of that he excuses leftists not knowing any better but right wingers don't get the same pass because our media is more balanced?!?! Essentially the left is allowed to be as radical as they want by that logic while the right needs to be defensive.

[@luske2]

Both are crimes but I agree that one is outright murder while the other is more criminal neglect.

[@thfkmnIII]

Kids in the 1st story didnt hit the man for the expressed intention of killing him. To them if he died he died, and if he lived he lived. They just wanted to get a kick out of hitting someone with a car. Both them and the cop acted out of wanton self-interest and didnt care abt the consequences to others.

[@user-jv4wh7fi9j]

First one is some old 🐖💩 biting the dust, that's all.

[@Eichro]

if the second officer outright making fun of the victim isn't worthy of outrage i don't know what to say to you

[@Gariegen]

The first video showed intentional murder, the second showed negligence. Callousness was present in both. They are similar on the surface, but fundamentally different. This video was off the mark.

[@quantumrex250]

My gut reaction says "The officer is taking responsibility by stopping to report the death he caused, check the body, and follow the procedure. Pleading guilty is the best action he could take given the circumstances." While it was his fault, and easily avoidable, hindsight is 20/20. The case goes to court, and the officer gets his sentence according to the law. He does not directly demonstrate intent to kill, unlike the first video. There is a case to be made for "The officer thinks he'll get away with it because the law treats him differently." And the "jokes" would support that story... But only IF they're from the same person. And if they're not, any media institution that would knowingly represent them as such is... not worth my time.

[@bmardiney]

I would expect nothing less from a Seattle cop. Or anyone living in Seattle.

[@radimnechut519]

A good point I wanted to be mentioned. But ey, not saying it could not happen in more right-leaning place. It definitely could... why does it happen in a left-leaning one, though...?

[@metroidhunter965]

Couldn’t _POSSIBLY_ be that Seattle voted in abjectly open defund/reallocate police funding, forcing departments like SPD to scrape underneath the barrel to attempt to halfway make a skeletal staffing

[@SUPEROLDish]

The Pacific Northwest has a particular lack of respect for life, it was jarring living there

[@bmardiney]

@@iCantEvenButtonsGaming Okay then the one laughing is exactly what I'd expect.

[@mat2000100]

Kurt Cobain rolling in his grave rn

[@cmd31220]

Dev, that story isnt about "2 idiot kids". Its about 2 animals laughing about murdering an innocent man in cold blood for absolutely no reason and a society where that's acceptable to everyone in that car.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

what did i say after the words "two idiot kids"?

[@cmd31220]

@ShortFatOtaku how many times did you say "two idiot kids" One of these was a cold blooded psychopathic murder. The other was an accident with a reaction people didn't like. And yet the entire video is about how not treating these stories equally is hypocritical.

[@Itariatan]

​@@cmd31220Bro, that's literally just how he talks. Stop with the semantics, he's going about this in the most neutral way possible

[@cmd31220]

@@Itariatan that's my point. It's his insufferable both-sidesism on an issue where the sides just aren't comparable.

[@yvanthedrakon]

​@@cmd31220if he argues in favor of one side, it stops becoming commentary and factual, instead it becomes propaganda and having clear bias. You find it annoying, some of us find it refreshing

[@mrshmuga9]

There might be bubbles, but the bigger difference is if you tell someone on the right, they’ll actually care/have sympathy. Whereas more and more people on the left these days, they might say it’s “bad” but they’ll make all sorts of excuses why it’s less important or doesn’t need to be publicized. In reality, they aren’t sympathetic, they’re just trying to cover up how they really feel without getting yelled at.

[@pseudo_goose]

2:05 In the US, latino/hispanic isnt considered a race or ethnicity for certain purposes. On official forms it's usually a separate checkbox.

[@Laughing_Chinaman]

yeah for 'certain purposes'

[@pseudo_goose]

@@Laughing_Chinaman I'm not trying to insinuate anything, just acknowledging that it is defined that way for 'certain purposes' but not others (there may be exceptions). I just don't know what the technicalities are exactly.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

isn't it because 'latino' is just a mix of european and indigenous with a bunch of central/south american cultural characteristics

[@Mis73rRand0m]

Hispanic/White is now one check box on most forms. It is to denote mostly European descent - Native/South American Tribal is intended for the less Euro Mexicans/South Americans.

[@guadalupefreyre5900]

​@@ShortFatOtakuthose are called metizo

[@Itariatan]

I'd watch more leftist channels but I don't think I'm strong enough.

[@ulaznar]

SFO is as far to the left as I can go, mostly because of his dissection of left wing thought

[@741podnammoc]

​@@ulaznarthat's fair. I sort of view him as centrist, but I'm willing to trust his takes on leftist views from a leftist perspective because he actually does the leg work. He explains the reasoning, the counter reasoning, and the other conditions leading to perspectives while giving them some benefit of the doubt. And I accept his critiques of the righties because once again, he explains his positions, and generally, they are well thought out.

[@mycaleb8]

The trick is to watch leftist infighting. Watching Vaush get bent over and obliterated by BadEmpanada sugars the pill nicely. I highly recommend leftist infighting as a starter.

[@mycaleb8]

@@onionfarmer3044 Just jump into proper radical circles, it's easier.

[@sophie9419]

I used to, but it wears you down after a while. Now I follow just enough to keep up with the news, but don't bother trying to listen to all sides before forming an opinion.

[@cameronii5979]

I could be mistaken, but to my knowledge that cop who was caught laughing was an investigator looking into the incident, not the one who struck the girl. (Edit just to add that it doesn't change the point of the video, but I thought it might be worth pointing out)

[@TheFatalcrest]

I mean....it alters the response to the original cop. If you believed he was laughing it off rather after the fact would it not make him a monster? We technically only have him calmly as possible saying what was happening on the scene and what occurred. Which very well could be just training, and his brain not producing instant emotions of panic.

[@viljamtheninja]

@@TheFatalcrest He still killed a person by sheer negligence of something that should be an instinct deeply drilled into his brain by now. Someone that negligent is a danger on the street and shouldn't be a cop.

[@TheFatalcrest]

@@viljamtheninja Never said he didn't do something terrible and shouldn't be punished.

[@niceguy2527]

It does change on of the sub points of the video where it is trying to equivatate a car accident by a remorseful officer vs. homicidal teenagers going out their way to hurt and kill people.

[@MrLolguy93]

Remember, Robert Heinlein was right

[@user-xr7rv2wv7b]

About what?

[@GreyWolfLeaderTW]

Half right. Human being have a moral obligation to the parents who created them and to the children they create, given the obvious cause and effect chain going on. You wouldn't be here without your parents, and your children wouldn't be here without you. Making you responsible to each generational line. Libertarianism ignores those obligations by pretending human beings are self-generated atoms without obligations to anyone or anything but their own desires.

[@PERSONAfan01]

@@user-xr7rv2wv7b In the original Starship Troopers novel Johnny's Morals and Philosophy Teacher, Mr. Dubois talked briefly about the civilizational decline and rot that brought about the Federation. One thing he had mentioned were the roving juvenille gangs that made walking down the street incredibly dangerous due to them attacking people in ways mirroring the teens in the vid as well as other violent thefts and looting we see today from the insane retail thefts to Kia Boys antics in Wisconsin. The first few chapters of the book are definitely a must read.

[@johnduquette7023]

@user-xr7rv2wv7b in Starship Troopers, they talk about the US before the veteran's coup. Juveniles were given slaps on the wrist and were spared punishment for heinous crimes, before getting slapped with capital punishment the moment they committed crime after age 18. The result was widespread chaos with wild youths terrorizing the populace and social tension over the validity of capital punishment after society had functionally conditioned them into career criminals. It's exposition for why the veteran-governed Terran Federation applied corporal punishment from an early age: to prevent criminal tendencies from developing as much as possible.

[@johnmcnutt8089]

Service guarantees citizenship?

[@m0nookiE]

The amount of luck mfs have now days to be able to record a murder in an age without capital punishment.

[@EmperorSigismund]

Forget capital punishment. They're lucky we don't still use the breaking wheel.

[@michaelstephens360]

It’s an odd experience hearing people on your own side of the aisle saying the dumbest s&@* you’ve ever heard at the most inappropriate moment

[@eliaspanayi3465]

I really hate it. They're letting the team down and making reasonable positions seem like insane ramblings

[@ratboyraticus9896]

@@eliaspanayi3465 as a left guy, I feel this so much.

[@lithunoisan]

@@ratboyraticus9896🐀

[@wesleyruff4997]

the first story about the kids hitting a guy actually got me pretty upset. thats some horrific shit to see

[@G4LERNE]

Important note : the officer making the comments in the car is NOT the cop that hit the person, he is a third party, most likely a supervisor. You can see that the bodycam footage uses a different code. Also, obviously not the same car, no cracks in the windshield, nothing. [EDIT] And Future Dev pointed that out right after I unpaused from typing my wall of text. I hope you're proud of yourself you cannuck bastard. By the way, I want to make it very clear to everyone that EVERY EMS, paramedic, police officer, firemen, all first responders (and most likely social workers) make worse jokes and comments that what you heard in that video. I think it's terrible that it got released to the public because its just a twist in the gut to the family to hear shit like this. Obviously, you don't want anyone to hear this but your colleagues. It's a coping mechanism, I've caught myself from commenting on the state of a dead body that was right next to me because a colleague nudged me in the ribs when he saw that the family was perhaps within hearing distance. When that happens, the shame quickly catches up to you, you don't want to hurt these people more than they are already hurting, having lost a loved one. Believe me, it's not that cops are heartless bastard, where I'm from they're also the one that have to deal with announcing the death of someone to the family. And boy, I'd take a hundred dead bodies over the announcement to the family, any day. Boy this turned into a ramble.

[@magickaldood]

Sanctity of life is completely gone from Western culture, makes me very sad.

[@viljamtheninja]

No, it really isn't, unless you only pay attention to the absolute worst events and examples. This "Oh woe is me, the world is ending because no traditional values" is kind of gay. People have been saying the exact same thing for 150 years.

[@magickaldood]

@@viljamtheninja No, it's much worse. There is more forced and coerced labor in the world than at any other time in human history. Every major developed economy benefits from it so nothing is done to address it. There are more women and children in sexual trafficking than at any other time in history as well. The Canadian government is offering M.A.I.D. to their own veterans with P.T.S.D. and Paralympians with mobility challenges. The Canadian government violated it's own charter on human rights, by confiscating the private property of those engaged in political demonstrations. The U.S. government coerced private companies to unlawfully suppress political speech on their platforms. American politicians have encouraged young women to be involved in knife fights at the age of 15 or 16. There have been several court cases in the U.S. where people have been murdered on camera and the jury refuses to convict because of the offender/victims race. This is not a "woe is me" this is a criticism of the people who made the world this way. The world is not the way that it is because of happenstance, evil people do exist and they have become increasingly bold as of late. I'm not sure who was saying it 150 years ago but I guess they were right. These are no longer edge events or extreme cases, these are official government policy positions paid by taxpayer dollars.

[@legrandduca687]

@@viljamtheninja When is sanctity of life respected ? Abortion ? Anti natalist policies ? Hypocrite vegans defending cows but advocating for human genocides ? Commies who wish the 90% of population above them could die off as slaves ? My guy, you don't live in this world. The west is basically as savage as Africa if not worst.

[@shadowling77777]

Weak niggas make hard times strikes again

[@johkupohkuxd1697]

​@@viljamtheninja Are they right? You cannot say that tradition is not on the decline.

[@marchmelloow]

A few things: 1. We have evidence that center and right leaning individuals are more likely to view other sides than left leaning individuals. You even brought up that right leaning media outlets talked about both stories. 2. The cop story is someone accidentally killing someone, while the kids maliciously killed the man for no reason other than for fun. One is an example of police being desensitized because of their job and power while the other is an example of the value problem in the younger generation. One's a normal occurrence while the other is a new emerging phenomenon. 3. You're assuming that no right winging people reacted to the cop story, when it easily could be just that they saw the story and thought, "that's bad", and then moved on with their day, like how they react to most news. This isn't the example of "muh both sides" that you're making this out to be. The cop story is another Tuesday, like most cop stories. There is nothing to be gained from taking about the cop story, while there is from the kids story, so you equating them together is a stretch. You're "muh both sides" is getting so strong that you felt the need to talk about this rather than make a Freedom Convoy video.

[@jamesgollinger208]

Yeah, I don't even really like to use the left/right dichotomy because I can't really say where I would fall. I've got some pretty conservative and libertatrian opinions, but I also favour the State in ways that most leftists would denounce. I don't watch CNN or Fox, CBC or Rebel News. Ideally, I watch the original video or read the study myself and I don't trust any news article that doesn't cite sources. And you can absolutely "both sides" anything. It would be trivial to both-sides the BLM riots and the Freedom Convoy, citing losses to local businesses and acts of vandalism, but to say they're remotely the same is just ridiculous.

[@InfamyOrDeath-__-]

14:15 Dev of course they only got outraged over 1, because 1 was an accident and the other was purposely done.

[@papal1500]

You're telling me you did a video like this... AND DIDN'T ASK GROUND NEWS TO SPONSOR YOU!?!?

[@zanitzeuken]

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that certain demographics see gross violence/death as a 'fun activity'? Like bowling, Dev?

[@MrTexaspreacher]

You know he wont.. Dev won't touch the question of race, genetics, or culture. Because then he might have to look at objective reality and have his active pattern recognition engaged. And then he can't keep that fence post lodged in his rectum.

[@user-jv4wh7fi9j]

Considering the ethnicity of the ONE who felt inconvenient after ramming an innocent woman and TWO, the one who joked about it and said, "She had limited value". Yeah..., it is hard to ignore how CERTAIN DEMOGRAPHICS behave like subhuman 🐖

[@voltron8375]

I think there's a lot more racial tension in the US than you think lol

[@t700e]

Not really. Though people on either side keep trying to exacerbate it.

[@danielutriabrooks477]

​@@t700eThere's only two levels of racial tension, LBJian Great Society, and The Turner Diaries

[@flameyoshi07]

Not enough of muh ra cis um

[@newdivide9882]

Having lived in the US all my life, on top of being black myself, I can say the demand for racism VASTLY outpaces the supply of it. I’m 25, have traveled to/through and lived in multiple states. Not once have I ever been harassed by white police officers. I’ve only ever experienced racism (literally the only thing I can possibly imagine it was; tried to think of other possibilities) one time in the three years I lived in a blue state. I’ve lived in a red state for the past FIFTEEN years and never experienced racism here. If racial tension exists, I have a feeling it’s only in big blue cities, where crime in general is already high.

[@empiresacks3498]

@@newdivide9882 you are mostly correct however if you are white and go anywhere majority black or brown you can cut the racial tension with a knife

[@BoxyBrown717]

One was malicious and another extreme negligence. I hope justice is served for both cases and can only hope that both these kind of stories get more coverage from all media in the future. It's a lot to hope for.

[@luck3yp0rk93]

bro follow up on that serial number thing. thats really important to expose how little scrutiny the journalists have towards stories. please pursue that.

[@Sketch_XR]

This new Dev vs Vee's Audience saga has been thoroughly entertaining to watch

[@connoromalley4004]

I'm pretty uninformed about this. What's going on?

[@Sketch_XR]

@@connoromalley4004 Dev and Vee have been getting into some heated arguments on the Archcast the last couple of weeks, and it's resulted in Dev fighting with Vee's viewers in the live chat

[@connoromalley4004]

@@Sketch_XR I see

[@Fallen-Saint]

​@@Sketch_XRlink, who's vee???

[@Sketch_XR]

@@Fallen-Saint RomanianVee, political commentator contemporary here on KZbin. Also does media and pop culture commentary on his second channel "Lack of Entertainment".

[@lordinquistorgastonchamber6092]

That response to a murder by black or hispanic people is so cookie cutter it makes you wonder how honest she is being on it, it feels manufactured speech.

[@brendanwiley253]

Me with a signature look of superiority: "I didn't know either of these happened until right now."😏

[@G4LERNE]

Based and equally-uninformed-pilled

[@christianjensen9174]

Happiest way to live to be honest

[@simonpetrikov3992]

Honestly me to

[@sproutpits]

Right-wingers don't protest as much because they have jobs and family obligations. When they do decide that action is necessary, they tend to dedicate themselves wholly to it rather than just making it a social hobby. This is evidenced by the relative rarity but also relative severity of right-wing political violence.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

i think this is a big part of it. leftoids riot all the time and are mostly ineffectual. rightoids riot once a generation and attack the seat of power.

[@jamesgollinger208]

I'll also point out, I generally bring my kids to rallies (not protests), especially during Covid. But, recently, left wing counter-protesters have started to target these rallies and they're often prepared for violence, which likely scares parents away. The solution is for the working people to vote with their wallets; buy ads and billboards and rent private venues where counter-protesters can be ejected if they start trouble, rather than being coddled by crowd police.

[@um536vids2]

I’m in the rightoid bubble. F that cop, that department needs higher levels of psychopathy screening. Dude not normal, shouldn’t have been on the streets.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

Exactly! I've watched too many dash cam videos to know that not every cop will instantly turn on the dark humor to "cope." Most of them have a split second of fear or panic before jumping into cop mode, you can hear it in their voices the majority of the time. That cop was a psycho

[@priapulida]

Leftism also needs more of that kind of screening.

[@MK_ULTRA420]

You would have to be a psycho to want to still be a cop in Seattle.

[@um536vids2]

@@MK_ULTRA420 yeah but lots of people shouldn’t be allowed to do what they want.

[@Cole-xq2tl]

Did you even watch the video? The guy laughing about it wasn't the guy who hit the girl

[@SaviorMachine84]

I am legit curious to hear what the mother's side of the story is? In what possible context could running over a defenseless person while laughing about it be understandable? I would pull up a chair and just listen in awe to the insane mental gymnastics that would unfold.

[@mjanny6330]

She'll tell you all about how he wasn't even a real human, he was a "whyte"

[@wibblesmcscribbles3018]

@@mjanny6330or probably blame it all on the Latino boy since he was the driver.

[@johnmacrae2006]

@SaviorMachine84 He wasn’t the one driving. He did react immediately after like “Oh shit, you killed him”.

[@xander55577]

Love you, Dev. The world is a little better with you in it. Thanks for your work

[@AquaStockYT]

The only other right wing group that covered the woman getting hit was the first amendment auditors. A rather libertarian subgroup, they've been discussing it fully.

[@robinthrush9672]

Their main issue is that they're mainly known for even their fringe; the people walking into Post Offices and government building with cameras to get attention and donations.

[@AquaStockYT]

@@robinthrush9672 hey man as long as it's legal, I see no problem with bullshit testing our structures of authority. The ones who clearly break doctrinal code? Lamest of the lame. But fellas like Honor Your Oath Civil Rights Investigations do a community service.

[@dragonturtle2703]

Problem is, people only have so much time in the day. Reading multiple sources, verifying all of those sources, all while having a life (job, at least some social connections, something to relax, which for introverts is very different from the socialization, etc). Part of why, especially historically, the rich and elderly are the most political.

[@remyllebeau77]

The difference here is that one really is an accident as far as we know, but the other is intentional. As bad as it is to be indifferent to the loss of life, that doesn't change the fact that the cop accidentally hit the woman, even while bearing some of the fault for not having lights and sirens on.

[@MarkeyJester]

Subscribed. I watched a few of your videos, and I'm really enjoying them! They make me feel comfortable and way less anxious, you've got the voice and reasoning that says; "hey, everything's gonna be alright, you'll see, don't worry about these morons". This one especially is fantastic, I'm glad *someone* is from earth.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

Finally, my favourite political channel uploaded, wish more people made stuff like you Dev. Maybe not same format perhaps but atleast decent enough research quality 😅

[@dougneon9550]

Mentiswave is pretty good if you want something a touch more libertarian

[@JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal]

1:20 The whole time im thinking "if this is yet another group of 13 percenters who lack basic empathy im just done." And sure enough...look something has to be done about these fatherless punks, its not funny anymore its just sick

[@RobzdaBlade]

I've been seeing this behavior where I live in Ontario. Where Dev lives. He'll wise up soon enough as well. When they all wake up maybe then we can target the ones who abuse us.

[@robertlewis6915]

I actually do occasionally read mainstream websites. I generally start laughing halfway through because it's hilariously dishonest or wrong or stupid. I prefer to get my news from people who aren't actively lying to me, even if they are biased. I don't have the time to do it regularly.

[@David_Drums]

Sounds like Dev is unintentionally running an ad for Ground News

[@Volper1]

12:28 it’s the later Dev and you know it. Get the fence post out of your ass. 14:00 also, yes you can. One is lying to you out right and bald faced, the other is at least giving you facts. When one side say “the truth” and the other “my truth” you know which is a lie and which is not.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

prove it

[@Volper1]

@@ShortFatOtakuI could but I won’t because I can’t be bothered. I won’t change your mind, I know you’re a leftist apologist, so what’s the point really?

[@ShortFatOtaku]

@@Volper1 you're exactly the type of guy i am talking about in this video. you think i am a leftist apologist even though leftists think i am a rightist apologist because you are stuck in a bubble and it feels bad every time i pop it.

[@Volper1]

@@ShortFatOtaku and look, here’s the long and skinny of it. For all 34 odd years of my life, the left has never, ever, ever ever ever, given the right the barest hint of the benefit of the doubt. They recognize that I and the right in general are their enemies. So, I will return the favor in kind. I will offer no apologies, and suffer none when it comes to the left. They are wrong, evil, the enemy, in all things, totally. And if I have anything to say about it, they will be destroyed utterly and removed from the scope of society. Just as they would have done to me.

[@Volper1]

@@ShortFatOtaku correct. And I make no apologies about it. The world brakes down into two halves, them and us. One cannot suffer the other to live. Therefore, war.

[@EMShelley]

I try to get media coverage from both sides, and that content bubble is so real. For example, the whole issue about LGBT books being banned in school libraries. The right side of the media is addressing the sexual content in the books. The left side is addressing anti-gay sentiments from parents. Nether side is getting the whole story, and if you try to point it out, they get angry at you.

[@TerryBernadinofromReno]

If the LGBT books are full of sexual content being given to children, haven't the LGBT earned the insults? Why is it so difficult for that community to not give sexually explicit material to kids?

[@remyllebeau77]

Is it really anti-gay? Or just what the incompetent lying left is claiming because the right doesn't want that content shown to their kids or any kids? I've yet to see any of those parents saying anything close to as vehemently anti-lgbt which I would prefer. But keep patting yourself on the back for being impartial and neutral while kids are getting brainwashed into cutting parts off themselves and getting permanent damage done to their bodies.

[@debanydoombringer1385]

While I may not have heard these anti-gay sentiments, and I've listened to most of the school board meetings about it, it's not a crime. Showing children explicit material is. I know people don't like it, but people are allowed to just not like stuff. They're not equal.

[@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089]

Been getting more and more anti-gay over time to be honest. Makes total sense to me, given the current circumstances, that people used to utterly revile those deviants.

[@EMShelley]

@@debanydoombringer1385 I agree. I'm just pointing out the difference in media coverage. The leftist media doesn't even address the sexual content in these books at all. They just show testimonies from people that have been attacked for their sexuality. So people that only follow the leftwing media are made to think that these book bannings and outrage amongst parents are just because the books are about lgbt+ topics and people, and therefore think that it's just a matter of homophobia. While on the other hand, the right leaning media covers the sexual content, but not the testimonies. So the people that only follow rightwing media may develop the idea that most, if not all, of the leftists and lgbt+ people are perverts that want to expose children to pornography, when in truth most don't even know what the hell is going on. I have many friends and acquaintances on both sides of the spectrum, and atleast as far I know, they all agree that kids shouldn't be exposed to sex.

[@HontounoShiramizu]

Some of the reasons right-wing marches and protests are a lot rarer are that: a) left-wing protests are often attended by people that don't have work/family obligations or who even make money by stoking those issues while right-wingers simply don't have that luxury. b) right-wing protests get far more negative press coverage and legal consequences. "Fiery but mostly peaceful protest" ended with near completely positive coverage and next to no legal consequences while "insurrection" ended with massively negative coverage and numerous arrests. c) Antifa is a thing in most metropolitan cities where such protests would make sense and most people don't want to risk getting crowbared in the face while their attacker gets settlement money from the city.

[@robinthrush9672]

The cynical part of me wants to point out that the cop(s) cam came from Seattle, a notoriously far-left and anti-cop city.

[@jamessmith5394]

While I agree with the echo chamber warning, there is the fact that watching certain media is like supporting the platform. Every story I read is also a view for their advertisers. "Broadening my perspective" clashes against "voting with my dollar"

[@AlexAnom420]

The value our society holds towards human life nowadays is insane to me... what happened? .... oh yeah everyone got spoiled rotten and greedy and took all those morals and values tought by our grandparents and forefathers for granted

[@cs8712]

mass abortions coupled with non-human interaction being the norm

[@cameraman502]

Interestingly I mostly follow right-wingers on social media, and I only saw the Seattle body cam story and the conservatives I follow were appropriately horrified. I wonder what caused this discrepancy.

[@Eusong]

IDK man, to me there's a pretty huge difference between accidentally hitting someone and feeling no remorse vs laughing and actively going out of your way to hit someone you otherwise wouldn't have. The two kids are far, far worse, and politics shouldn't affect people seeing that. The fact it does is gross.

[@Kaynadian1337]

In this video, Dev explains whats gone haywire with reality. Everybody is in a bubble and many are too happy to stay that way

[@alby1529]

I listen to right and centrist/moderate sources, but I can't be convinced to take seriously the word of people who want people like me silenced, jobless, or dead.

[@viljamtheninja]

Who wants you dead? You're sounding just as annoying as those people who think supporting J.K. Rowling's shelter for abused biological women to be equal to wanting to genocide trans people. And no one told you have to take every opinion seriously. Just keep your ears open and go outside your comfort zone now and then.

[@MrDeothor]

problem with listening to the left sources is that they often make up lies to fit their agenda. Yes, yes yes, right does that the same, but if we were to compare amounts of halftruths, or lies thrown in our faces between the sides, then watching anything from the left is like having weird fetish of enjoying being lied to.

[@conradmills4977]

KZbin, there are 2 replies, why can I not see them?

[@MrDeothor]

@@conradmills4977 shadowbanned comments. authors of those comments probably had used taboo words.

[@PublicLeeSpeaking]

TL;DW: Right Wingers hear both sides of reality, but care more about the thing that aligns with their values, and Dev thinks that's bad. Left wingers only _hear_ the thing on their side, and care about that, not even finding out the other side exists, which Dev thinks is roughly equally bad. 'Both sides bad, but not me, me centrist, me only one that's grown up!' - Dev, as usual.

[@SirDankington]

The man considers cold blooded murder and criminal negligence to be on the same level. Are you even surprised?

[@cynical_insight]

3:43 Cops can only ignore traffic rules if they have lights and sirens on. So he was not "allowed to do" what he was doing.

[@Zimzilla99]

Was waiting for this

[@mrshmuga9]

I think the reason rightists aren’t protesting, is based on each side’s methodology behind protesting. Leftists will protest to bring awareness to an issue, but not have any concrete goals on what/how to change. Rightists look at it more practically. They’ll only protest if they want something specific changed and have a plan for it, like the 1 Million March recently to stop gender ideology in classrooms. So in this scenario, protesting won’t do anything. Murderers exist, and you can’t do anything more to these individuals than arrest them. It’s not that it’s not terrible or doesn’t deserve coverage, but a protest won’t bring forth any change to prevent it in the future. And thus, there’s not practical reason/outcome to protesting over this.

[@jamesgollinger208]

Or the Freedom Convoy. Despite being made up of thousands of random people, they had one coherent massage: stop the mandates. And, look at that, no more mandates. Huh

[@j.h.5277]

I'm a war vet, and I've seen so much cold indifference to the value of human life that watching the veneer of societal value erode seems as natural as the setting of the sun. None of this shocks me or alarms me, because I stopped trusting human beings a long time ago. I still love you, I'll still do whatever I can to help the people around me but at the end of the day we are all humans, and humans are evil.

[@catreecemacleod7556]

I would suggest it's not that they're evil, so much as the traits for survival trend towards being dysfunctional in non-survival situations if you let them go that way. You can take advantage of those same traits in a beneficial manner, but it usually takes conscious effort to do so. A simple case in point: greed. GREED IS EVIL! Consuming far more than you need, taking from other people without remorse, being a fat, lazy pig! ...Except there's also the side that greed is the desire for more than you have, a dissatisfaction in what is. Without greed, we would've been happy with "good enough" and never went past that point. We wouldn't have left a cave, nor made fire, or tried to make the world a better place, or to care about each other more, to become more devoted to one's religious beliefs and so on and so forth, because those are all facets of greed as they're all rooted in the core premise of wanting more than you currently have. By default, sure, people can trend towards "evil" if they're not careful, and a lot of people do exactly that, even with significant incentives not to do so like jail time, cultural taboos and so on. But in the end, I don't think it's so much that humans are really evil, just the thing said at the start - the traits for survival are rather selfish and don't really work well in non-survival situations, so over time you're going to see the selfish behaviour generally win out overall. Or to put it another way, there's a burning building with 10 people watching it burn, and then someone cries out for help from inside. 1 person might go in to try to save them. What of the other 9? Well, if only one goes in, it's double or nothing, potentially a good outcome, potentially not. If all 10 go in, you can increase your losses by +1,000% instead. In general, you want a fairly low rate of people to be willing to risk that potential self sacrificial behaviour, otherwise the species goes extinct in totality. If you're willing to kill off the entire human race because it disagrees with what you want to do, that kinda falls into the "evil" category as well, meaning even the people who really just want everyone to love each other and get along... are kinda evil. Or at least at the very soft end of things uneducated and not really thinking things through all that well. So really, it's not only not "evil" to have the traits people consider to be evil, but it's actively a good thing that people are greedy, self centered and so on by default. It's just a matter of whether you let those traits be allowed to be in control when they shouldn't be, or if you reign them in and direct them towards being productive instead.

[@Dap1ssmonk]

A pathetically nihilistic outlook. I’ve seen some shit too and it’s never made me draw this conclusion.

[@j.h.5277]

@@Dap1ssmonk It's not nihilism, friend. That would indicate that I think it's all a worthless venture to do good, and I certainly do not think that at all. You don't have to have a Pollyanna worldview to still want to help and try to help. I just don't put my faith in my fellow man without seeing who they are first, and guess what? We're all capable of being immensely evil. Anyone who denies that is a fool.

[@jejethejeplalq821]

​@@Dap1ssmonk Cause you're too scared to draw that conclusion. Too scared to come to the final understanding.

[@jejethejeplalq821]

@j.h.5277 While i agree that life holds no intrinsic value, I disagree that humans are evil. humans are neither good nor evil. good and bad are subjective.

[@TransRoofKorean]

2:43 worse than "idiot". 16 years old and they're already literal *_pure evil._* 4:10 although is it better or worse to be literally *_pure evil_* when older? Ofc my inclination is "well, Seattle, you made all the good cops quit. Good job!" Do the progs have a similar retort for the first example?

[@JumpDaddy70]

The best part about working in intel is realizing the news isn't a good source of information

[@iam16bits]

Anyone who watches both videos and makes excuses for either one of them is a monster, plain and simple.

[@mrdumbfellow927]

So Intent isn't a thing for you?😂 Both are gross but also they aren't nearly the same. If they were both private citizens and one of them ran down a bicyclist in broad daylight on purpose after stealing a car ..... and the other citizen accidentally hits a pedestrian in the middle of the night while on the way to an emergency at home because they didn't have their high beams on or something and then afterwards doesn't seem like they value the dead pedestrian's life..... you think they carry the same evil?😳 I'm no fan of the cop's personality, but I'm gonna say you shouldn't be on a jury if you are going to have such an emotional take on a case. There are differences when someone sets out to harm or kill people, compared to someone who does so on accident but then doesn't appear to have much remorse. Have a good night

[@A_Random_Ghost]

@@mrdumbfellow927 It was not the cop that hit the woman that was laughing. He was literally crying. I feel that substantially changes the story.

[@habibishapur]

It takes intelligence to understand nuance. I know its hard buddy, but thats why not everyone is equipped to make decisions.

[@signa8]

I'm more in the right-wing bubble, and I hadn't heard of either of these.

[@grumpyold-man8302]

Thanks man, I love your channel

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

"Grassroots" does NOT mean "on the ground." It means organic and individual based, as opposed to a sponsored, paid, targeted response. Those kids absolutely would have skipped a black person on a bike. That was the 3rd or 4th car they had stolen that day. Are you trying to say that the Arizona Statesman, or whatever they are called, was actually unsure about the "accident"? At a bare minimum, it's a hit and run. That isn't an accident, so the headline is still wrong. George Floyd was NOT a victim of anything. He overdosed. Period. The end. He wasn't choked to death while being miraculously unharmed because that would involved magic. The autopsy is clear. The lack of full body cam being released for like 4 months yells you what the truth is, too. People on the Right have jobs and don't riot. They don't have organizations bankrolling protests against police all across the country like the Left does. The Right doesn't have government sympathizers who know the fed will comp any damage done later on down the line. We, the nation, paid for the damage in cities where the DA allowed rioting and vandalism unchecked. We, the nation, paid for the economic damage done through lockdowns from Democrat governors. They suffer no consequences because they've got help from the Fed. Lastly, why would anyone care what one cop said about something one time? A terrible accident that could have been avoided is a local, individual problem. Two teenagers live streaming a crime spree and murdering someone intentionally is not even sort of similar. One of them had a fucking face tattoo, for God's sake. They went on a terror rampage across a city. How is that anything like a cop not turning his lights and sitens on while speeding to an emergency?

[@ChaseYojimbo]

I do try keeping an eye on both social circles so I'm at least a little aware of what's going on. Got to admit it's difficult without treating it like a fulltime job. I got other stuff going on in my life.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

I didn't hear about either of these stories, and really that's the way I think it should be. These are horrific tragedies, yes, but I don't know if anyone outside their loved ones and prosecution needs to know about every tragedy that comes along. It's draining on the human spirit.

[@KeybladeMasterAndy]

Thanks for informing us, Dev.

[@jcruik8544]

It's amazingly depressing that the stance of 'hear both sides, draw your own conclusion' is a rarity and not the norm

[@hunteralbers1449]

I heard about both these stories. I hope that means im nit in a bubble. Also both situations are dispicable

[@skanderbeg682]

Good video Dev. I hate that people like to blame the 'algorithm' for existence of political bubbles when it driven by individuals who choose to watch content only within there politics. this extends outside social media as well. another interesting thing is often media coverage is conflated with political care by anti-establishment types like with the train. Anti-establishment media and politics are often driven by their narrative to point out the failures of establishment media and politics as that what justifies their existence. hence why the narratives that concern failures of media are so enticing. all people generally apply a confirmation bias some that the media they consume fits within there understanding of reality. stories that don't confirm might ignored, opposed or not acted upon when it does fit the narrative. since ID pol is important in some establishment media reporting on reverse cases where the majority identity is harmed by the minority identity does not only give evidences against ID pol but solution and analysis from this narrative will not make sense or align with a normal interpretation. to escape this readers and consumers of media to take in multiple narratives see where they don't align with ones own rational application of narratives or emotive self.

[@beastlyman01265]

That's why I like you, I get really good coverage of both this way

[@tfallspark5104]

I love when the DDS hits in the Archcast!

[@gweetus]

I must be in the worst media bubble, cuz I hadn't heard about either incident til this video, and both make me feel repulsed by the perpetrators.

[@QuippersUnited]

"Yes, right media reported on both stories, but something something both sides, guys..." - Dev, refusing to acknowledge that the right is objectively much more consistent than the left

[@ShortFatOtaku]

what is contained in that "something something" that you've decided to cut out?

[@akirakun5565]

i thought for sure he was going to bring up evangelical Christians from the 90s again because he thinks it's somehow still relevant and his go to for some reason.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

@@akirakun5565 nah i can talk about the pure unadulterated falsehoods the rightoids have been putting out as their post 2020 cope if you want

[@QuippersUnited]

@@ShortFatOtaku An excellent question, what was in that something something that you decided to cut out? "Fox News is bad, m'kay?"

[@zacheltringham8524]

The Right has been claiming that Biden is an illegitimate president for 3 years now. STFU about the right being more consistent.

[@en--ev]

It's funny how the police *literally* always wait for public backlash to start investigating their own officers. It's almost like they wouldn't even do it at all without the backlash! I mean, it's not like they have access to the bodycam footage before it goes public and becomes viral or anything like that... _oh wait._

[@RexyRonin]

Thank you so much Dev! This is curing me of my brainrot!

[@voltron8375]

"joyride"

[@ShortFatOtaku]

Joyride: "a fast and dangerous ride in a stolen vehicle."

[@BruhMoment-fr4zr]

*Mostly peaceful vehicular rampage*

[@2bad2micro86]

I agree with your point that people are living in the system that narrows their viewpoints. I understand why you chose these examples due to the similarities I would point out that there is a difference between a willful attempt to injure and kill someone and having a general reckless disregard for others safety. Not an important distinction for your point, it could be an important distinction as to why people react differently to the stories.

[@iknothatukno]

Red snow and blue snow. All the same snow, isn't it?

[@TheSaltiestSenpai]

I like being in the center i can see both ridiculous narratives and try and piece the story together from two dumb puzzle pieces. Good work dev, great way to show this divide.

[@marcoaraiza9381]

Just because they both got hit by a car doesnt make them the same. One was an accident/mistake while an officer was doing their job. Him being callous is not a crime itself. The other is two criminals commiting dozens of crimes including first degree murder.

[@ShortFatOtaku]

the point isn't that "they're the same" the point is how the public perceived them. the left perceived their story the same way the right perceived theirs, but only one was not reported on by both sides of the media (the right's), only one was protested irl (the left's), only one was actively ignored by their opponents (the left's), and only one came under legal scrutiny after a public backlash (the left's)

[@marchmelloow]

@@ShortFatOtaku Seems like you're saying that it's the Left that's the problem here, so why did you focus the video on "muh both sides"? The Right reported on and talked about both stories, they just didn't have a Left wing reaction (yell and/or riot about it), so it seems more like you just don't like the Right winger's morals of viewing negligence as a normal occurrence, and thus not something to talk about to their great grandchildren about, and malicious murder as a problem of lack of morals with today's society.

[@bencochrane6112]

To be fair, i just get my news from Short Fat Otaku. Then I go back to the real world and get back to work. Weirdly enough, a few months later people in my social circles start talking about these events, so I look really well informed. I'm not sure what that means.

[@remyllebeau77]

Especially when SFO happens to be late to the news.

[@Dionaea_floridensis]

The seattle clip was absolutely disgusting. That cop was a bonafied psychopath

[@solan7978]

I'm of the right, and I say all three criminals (including the police officer) deserve to be in prison for life.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

No point in life in prison, death sentence.

[@NitroNinja324]

​@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTownIt's actually cheaper to keep them in prison for life than capital punishment.

[@sterlinga8307]

@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown the police officer reaction thing was someone completely different, this was his actual reaction. Dave is crying and distraught, telling one officer he is “not okay” and muttering, “I fucked up” to another as officers try to comfort him. He was speeding off to an emergency he got informed of just over 12 seconds before impact, that is an accident. He is likely liable for negligent homicide but pretending that is the same as those rats, is nuts.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

@@NitroNinja324 Really? I guess I can believe it. Not like we just drag them out to the gallows and hang them or do firing squads anymore.

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

@@sterlinga8307 I wrote my original comment under the impression that both cops shown in the video were the same. I commented too soon. The one who joked about it needs to be fired and have a black mark on his record so he can't even be a security guard, and the one who hit the woman should face negligent manslaughter charges.