LL Cool J Vs. Canibus: Who REALLY Won?

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@theconsigliere8463
@theconsigliere8463 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus is one of those rare talented artists that never got the exposure he deserved. He should have been much bigger than he ever got.
@TheCruzan26
@TheCruzan26 5 жыл бұрын
I like Canibus until that shitty ass CD came out in 98. SMH
@swansmeister
@swansmeister 5 жыл бұрын
you talking about notepad man cansuckybus
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 5 жыл бұрын
West coast Dre I would say LL makes the top 15. His first two albums are legendary, and he was HUGE for a while there.
@Tybear-qz4bx
@Tybear-qz4bx 5 жыл бұрын
@West coast Dre what the freak are you even trying to say. Next time please use proper English before posting, thanks
@jameleason8200
@jameleason8200 5 жыл бұрын
Cruzan26 his second cd 2000 BC was a major improvement.
@king-gon
@king-gon 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus did end up borrowing that Mic. His name is Mike Tyson.
@templeofserenity7184
@templeofserenity7184 5 жыл бұрын
Cahlin D. 😂😂😂
@eoinconnors9901
@eoinconnors9901 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck thats good
@LizardMane
@LizardMane 4 жыл бұрын
he should have said "my mike is bigger than yours"
@ReJayJJ
@ReJayJJ 4 жыл бұрын
@@LizardMane "You goin at an iron mic with the ink type right ? Ya'll can fist fight while I lyrically smite"
@theycallmemelemel
@theycallmemelemel 5 жыл бұрын
WOW! 300yrs later and I finally know the whole story! I always thought it was solely about the tattoo line, but it was actually a lot deeper than that. I remember being a teenager and thinking that LL won, but after hearing the back story, I have to give the W to Canibus! How was the young new guy more classy and more mature than the veteran? He showed respect, honored LL's request, was patient, got stabbed in the back and did what any young hungry rapper would have done after being lied to.
@seankiesling2054
@seankiesling2054 4 жыл бұрын
This I used to think LL won too when I was a teen
@travse2577
@travse2577 3 жыл бұрын
LL Cool J smashed canibus and canibus career flop his album didn't do what the label expected and they moved on. Canibus couldn't make hit records. Outside of his battle with LL he ain't known for nothing really Else industry wise. Canibus lost as a industry artist. Plus LL diss was more personal and truthful. I mean if they had met in person and fought I see LL stomping canibus out. Canibus would probably just take it too he looks up to LL too.
@scottcarter2914
@scottcarter2914 3 жыл бұрын
Man cannabis has had beef with 4 or 5 rappers. He even took shots at ‘Em 🤣🤣
@kennethwatson9115
@kennethwatson9115 2 жыл бұрын
LMAOFF!!! 300 years later though😂😂
@giovannicocchi5299
@giovannicocchi5299 2 жыл бұрын
300 years later ..had me laughing so phuking hard 😂🤣
@brianturner496
@brianturner496 5 жыл бұрын
LL took advantage of canibus He knew he looked up to him
@OfficialChrissums
@OfficialChrissums 2 жыл бұрын
@Mr. No Weapon (The Prince Of The Talkbox) lmao log off LL we didnt forget about "accidental racist"
@LinkPellow
@LinkPellow 6 ай бұрын
He was intimidated by him
@nooneseesme522
@nooneseesme522 2 ай бұрын
I don't really like how they could've worked together and canibus could've become the next Eminem
@championdesigns
@championdesigns 5 жыл бұрын
23:50 When LL invited Canibus onstage, Canibus should have said, “L, is that a mic on your arm? Let me borrow that!” Hahaha
@expansivegymnast1020
@expansivegymnast1020 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO YES!
@Gsweetwyne
@Gsweetwyne 2 жыл бұрын
😂🤣😂🤣 I definitely would have hahahaha
@bboy_itami978
@bboy_itami978 5 жыл бұрын
That phone call sounded like LL just didn’t want the smoke
@jamiephiniezy4697
@jamiephiniezy4697 4 жыл бұрын
He really didn't, L was weak as fuck for that bullshit...
@a.c.slater7989
@a.c.slater7989 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamiephiniezy4697 LL was talking greasy to him
@schizoframia4874
@schizoframia4874 4 жыл бұрын
He sounded like a pussy
@MonsieurDePhocas.
@MonsieurDePhocas. 3 жыл бұрын
Dont disrespect LL like that fool. You talking about a fucking legend in Hip Hop
@bboy_itami978
@bboy_itami978 3 жыл бұрын
@@MonsieurDePhocas. lmao popularity don’t mean shit and if you a real hiphop head you would know that anyone can catch the smoke in battle, legend or not. LL did some chump shit and Canibus had to let him know wassup
@sx2ap
@sx2ap 7 жыл бұрын
LL definitely overreacted. Canibus asked to borrow the Mic for strength, outta respect. Idk why LL couldn't understand that
@marceldrazil3839
@marceldrazil3839 6 жыл бұрын
THE_Cali2VA At this time LL was on The Source cover holding five mics and with crown on his head. Remember Bis saying: "I'll snatch the crown with ya head still attached to it. Canibus is the type to fight for mics.." That was the reason LL "overreacted".
@rcut420
@rcut420 6 жыл бұрын
Cuz "get ur own shit". That's why
@HOTVBARSCHOOL
@HOTVBARSCHOOL 6 жыл бұрын
@@marceldrazil3839 no dude. That was said on the 2nd rd diss after all the corn shit LL did
@marceldrazil3839
@marceldrazil3839 6 жыл бұрын
HOTV BARSCHOOL He said it on 4,3,2,1.
@davidhues1304
@davidhues1304 6 жыл бұрын
Nah B. You tell someone lemme borrow that when you robbing their ass
@alfonzo9389
@alfonzo9389 6 жыл бұрын
That was a snake move by LL
@cj_ssfsm
@cj_ssfsm 5 жыл бұрын
Yup😎
@eyeThink11
@eyeThink11 5 жыл бұрын
Really was tho
@manolopmb
@manolopmb 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely was a hoe move
@dtill5322
@dtill5322 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely he played that young man
@a.c.slater7989
@a.c.slater7989 4 жыл бұрын
@@dtill5322 It was bad sure but he told canibus to chill and they’ll do a song. Canibus couldn’t do that
@kellyhurley741
@kellyhurley741 2 жыл бұрын
LL even gave Canibus a shout out on his album credits. Basically thanking him for sparking that hunger in him again. The only reason why Canibus’ career didn’t go further is (mainstream) because he put too much energy into his beefs. Dude was even going at it with Shady. Overall, I like 2nd Round Knockout more. S/o to both of them tho. Legends
@elydot8693
@elydot8693 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus is the student with a master mind. A skilled wordsmith who knew his potential. The most underrated MC in this culture, do to bias opinions.
@mr.wright9867
@mr.wright9867 6 жыл бұрын
That's fine to me....i'd rather have 8 albums where i had complete control over lyrically and concept wise than be a slave to record companies.
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 6 жыл бұрын
@@mr.wright9867 Except LL was given plenty of creative freedom during his time in the mainstream. More so than the average signed artist.
@princechietan4908
@princechietan4908 6 жыл бұрын
Can is the man
@titsticklerthompson981
@titsticklerthompson981 6 жыл бұрын
Ely Dot do...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@malachialrick8539
@malachialrick8539 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus all day
@dbSteelyPhil
@dbSteelyPhil 5 жыл бұрын
Kind of sucks Bus got black balled in the industry. He's one of the greats with not enough exposure
@jhm0688
@jhm0688 5 жыл бұрын
dbSteelyPhil Canibus is one dimensional. Sure he can rap and freestyle but he is a horrible songwriter. If you can’t write good songs it don’t matter how good lyrically you are. Lacrae for example is great lyrically and can write great songs. Canibus can only rap and freestyle.
@SDSOverfiend
@SDSOverfiend 5 жыл бұрын
@@jhm0688" Canibus can only rap and freestyle" You just killed your own argument. Hate correctly next time.
@shauncameron8390
@shauncameron8390 5 жыл бұрын
@@SDSOverfiend But he's still right, though. Canibus could rap his ass off, but he was one-dimensional and his songwriting skills were non-existent.
@SDSOverfiend
@SDSOverfiend 5 жыл бұрын
@@shauncameron8390 Really? When his whole first album was panned for having too much subject matter and going too deep? Most of the songs had the tradition 3 verse and 3 hook pattern. He RECIEVED a Gold plaque for that album. Second album more hardcore. Third album was a satirical album. 4 album Mic Club was his best.. RIP THE JACKER WAS CONSIDERED HIS GREATEST piece of work and he wasn't even there for it. Be for real bro. The man was simply blackballed.
@jackallport9024
@jackallport9024 5 жыл бұрын
@@SDSOverfiend Dizaster bodied him, but i think 90% of his beats were booty cheeks
@jamesanderson4949
@jamesanderson4949 3 жыл бұрын
This beef was legendary. Canibus was a new MC who was very lyrical. LL Cool J was already a Hip Hop icon. LL felt some kind of a way when Canibus rapped about taking the Mic tattoo off his arm. So LL dissed him in a verse . He asked Canibus to change the verse. Canibus did and then asked LL diss to change his verse . LL kept his diss verse on the final version of the song. That was pretty foul. I think LL let his ego get the best of him. It was petty and unnecessary. Canibus came with one of the hardest diss songs ever "2nd Round Knockout " . LL struck back with " The Ripper Strikes Back ". But Canibus won the battle .
@shadycnetwork
@shadycnetwork 2 жыл бұрын
How did he win anything? He's not even heard of anymore. As I said in the previous comment, in the history of hip Hop that fool's not even a footnote.
@shadycnetwork
@shadycnetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@Nevin Reid you crazy. Where is he at now? LL still rocking the world
@kingghost6928
@kingghost6928 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadycnetwork LL still lost the battle tho
@crakka5150
@crakka5150 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadycnetwork lmao, it’s crazy how confident people like you can be while commenting such stupid shxt 😂 🤣
@shadycnetwork
@shadycnetwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@crakka5150 dude that's my era I grew on HipHop. I'm not confident about much but I'm confident about my music. Canibus literally disappeared from the music scene.
@lultimmsrevolver
@lultimmsrevolver 7 жыл бұрын
This is channel is so fresh and new I'm glad this channel is growing
@parmeshwargsavanurparmesh5168
@parmeshwargsavanurparmesh5168 6 жыл бұрын
Tsriple Double TV dry XY by no hi y
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 6 жыл бұрын
Triple Double yeah
@channellive7137
@channellive7137 6 жыл бұрын
Put perfectly. Lyrically, L is not on Canibus level. And L's my man but facts are facts. Till this day Canibus and Pun has the illest metaphors and deliveries I have ever heard.
@emmanuelpressley7267
@emmanuelpressley7267 6 жыл бұрын
99% of his fans don't exist, the most savage line of eternity
@Cozmoe-ze2we
@Cozmoe-ze2we 5 жыл бұрын
JADEN WALSH-CB U already know who won....Can.I.Bus!!!!! P2TG
@Messvayne
@Messvayne 6 жыл бұрын
Canibus won this battle, no question....LL ain't got bars like that
@jameseu4486
@jameseu4486 5 жыл бұрын
Can I doodoo in your cereal ll won dude respect the goat?
@pimpenstein
@pimpenstein 5 жыл бұрын
LMAO. No. LL roasted him beyond recognition on The Ripper Strikes Back
@nooneasked6800
@nooneasked6800 5 жыл бұрын
@Droo Bastard Ll lost get over it canibus a better mc yall saying cool j won because he bigger
@beaukito2169
@beaukito2169 5 жыл бұрын
Didnt eminem ghost write "the ripper strikes back"? Canibus diss was way better but LL was just too big for canibus to handle. LL was a notorious battle mc in his prime though.
@williams.5158
@williams.5158 5 жыл бұрын
You crazy.
@sMMAshzilla
@sMMAshzilla 3 жыл бұрын
Very good video you've put together.. You didn't mention though that they brought in Master P to replace Canibus on the 4,3,2,1 song. Master P was also in one version of the video.
@Eagles4life221
@Eagles4life221 7 жыл бұрын
9:46 LL was going to say “Don’t be a bitch.” I think LL really didn’t like Canibus and never respected him, he probably felt threatened by Canibus’ insane lyricism.
@zapzawesomeice2970
@zapzawesomeice2970 6 жыл бұрын
Alien Pumpkinhead facts !
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 6 жыл бұрын
TRUE FUCKING FACTS I HEARD RUMORS THAT LL WAS JEALOUS CAUSE CANIBUS WAS FRESH , DIFFERENT AND WILL GOONS IN BATTLES LL SAW HIM AS A THREAT
@jflack6
@jflack6 6 жыл бұрын
yep!
@brocktheobserver8293
@brocktheobserver8293 5 жыл бұрын
Alien Pumpkinhead I thought the exact same
@dankmctwist6575
@dankmctwist6575 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus isn't threatening to anyone, Dudes a nobody who never made it.
@sokatsuislap
@sokatsuislap 5 жыл бұрын
This takes me back. My friend was an LL fan and I was a Canibus fan. We use to argue while analyzing the diss tracks on who had better bars. At the end we would agree to disagree while still dissing each other. Canibus was right though 99% of LL fans wear high heels.
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 3 жыл бұрын
Not true at all
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like me saying LL is right, 99% of Canibus fans don’t exists.... and that’s more of an argument
@melaninbotswana2474
@melaninbotswana2474 3 жыл бұрын
@@theophilusjones6024 ll showed that he couldn't stand toe to toe with canibus on bars that's why he acted cowardly and yes 99 percent of his fans wear high heels and he showed his body all the time just like today's woman who are almost naked on music videos it sells and all his love songs probably the only guy in rap who has the most love songs😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@RaheelTalk
@RaheelTalk 3 жыл бұрын
But LL was also right 99% of Canibus fans don't exist 😂😂
@jordanprice9285
@jordanprice9285 2 жыл бұрын
@@RaheelTalk Yes, but y'all say that as if Canibus was rapping for years and just naturally sucked so he had no fans because of it when it's not the case. Plus, that's incorrect as there's PLENTY of Canibus fans even back when he was on features for the Lost Boys track that blew up and got him some attention and even with the 4,3,2,1 track that he had his verse on before the beef happened. Not to mention, look at the comments of this video, there are Canibus fans in here as well as most of them are rating Can higher and had the better diss than LL did which is facts.
@themusicman2005
@themusicman2005 5 жыл бұрын
That line was creative, I feel LL was just intimidated. LL's verse was definitely a subliminal shot.
@mikophilo348
@mikophilo348 5 жыл бұрын
this is not a debate...and definitely doesn't need 30 minutes to be answered. canibus won, game over!
@abonbarksdale4505
@abonbarksdale4505 5 жыл бұрын
Miko Philo never in a million years
@nooneasked6800
@nooneasked6800 5 жыл бұрын
@@abonbarksdale4505 you right he ready bodied Ll didnt take him a million years
@curbyourenthusiazm
@curbyourenthusiazm 5 жыл бұрын
Nigga we know! we want the story
@orange-6109
@orange-6109 5 жыл бұрын
Nah it was a draw.
@dommyyandfriendss
@dommyyandfriendss 5 жыл бұрын
Miko Philo WHAT ??? LL Cool J ended his career
@johnWilliams-nn2iv
@johnWilliams-nn2iv 5 жыл бұрын
Cannibis ripped the mic off his arm like thanos ripped the stone out of vision head
@emmanuelobute5885
@emmanuelobute5885 5 жыл бұрын
lmfao!!!!!
@TheGoyoloco87
@TheGoyoloco87 5 жыл бұрын
Bro you just kill it ...
@jamesasante488
@jamesasante488 4 жыл бұрын
Bars!!!
@ChillHous1979
@ChillHous1979 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@KvngLxo
@KvngLxo 3 жыл бұрын
Canibus*
@tybruton725
@tybruton725 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Canibus won. He said he would flip LL with a .45 and he did with his own mic the moment he got Iron Mike to get on the mic. He basically went to get a bigger name, who still holds title in the ring. Having Mike speak on it was more than enough to rip the Def outta Def jam. I'm a fan of both but while LL got the star power, Canibus definitely knew he had to get someone with more and where he won at, was he knew everyone loves Iron Mike so he made LL's deepest fans love him more vicariously without them even knowing; even if they ain't hear his diss. Basically, he used a silent bomb and blew up his camp using the greatest champ in boxing. After all, he let be on the track where he dissed him and the album sold, that's cold. So, yeah he won without having to bite the hand that fed him hands down. Understand, it was Iron Mike who referenced def not Canibus think about that for a second.
@juanitagartley937
@juanitagartley937 Жыл бұрын
Smart of Cannibus. Mike sealed the victory. LL should've publicly admitted his fault.
@danielnelson3136
@danielnelson3136 10 ай бұрын
First of all, great video and coverage of the rap beef and diss tracks between Cassidy and LL Cool J. Honestly, IMO, so far in my life, of all the rap beefs I've heard, this one takes the cake of being THE MOST CORNIEST RAP BEEF EVER!! My god, all this started because of some corny microphone tattoo on LL Cool J's arm??? Christ, if I was Cassidy, I'd just keep the conversation short, ask about the meanings of the tattoos, and do my thing, or just STFU, small talk anything other than that, and just do my rapping part and leave. Holy hell! I actually cringed that this was a rap beef. Is this real life?! Was that an actual thing?!🤣 From my understanding, tattoos originate from native tribes and tribalism of the early history of humanity. Tattoos are a symbol of a warrior's achievement of either killing and hunting an animal, or a killing of a rival warrior of another tribe, a part of the coming of age ceremony for young boys and girls, a part of animal worship and nature worship of nature based deities, and finally certain strange tattoo markings like those jagged lightning like markings are also based on visual hallucinations off of say psilocybin mushrooms or other types of psychedelics, which when that tribesmen is under the effects and sees the patterns onto their body, they then tattoo and try to imitate and embody what they saw upon their bodies. Fast forwards past ancient civilizations, empires and imperialism, the medieval dark ages, colonialism, and finally onto the 80's up to today, tattoos have gained far more additional meanings. From a person/group mostly at stage blue of spiral dynamics, tattoos which symbolize their nation and country are acceptable, or even national iconography, although some percentage of traditionalists and conservatives might actually have more negative than positive views of tattoos in general. Those who have more stage orange values may have reasons that are individualistic and personal to that person's ego, that the tattoo they gain is a sign of some achievement, or a lover's name, or some other reason that's individualistic to that person, and even the tattoo industry and business providers who's stage orange/green are giving these tattoos in exchange of currency and money, a transactional relationship of the customer and tattoo artist, which vastly differs from the stage purple tribalism of giving tattoos as a coming of age ceremony, or related to nature and animal worship. Finally in context to the video, in terms of the black community, of black culture, gang culture and some overlap of mafia and cartel cultures in this timeline of Hip Hop including gangs off of the streets, the ghettos and projects and that type of culture, which is mostly based around stage red in values, typical values range from dominance seeking, power struggles, power dynamics, boasting, show boating, conquest seeking and so on, the egotism is far more higher and emergent off of the stage purple tribalism, when a few members gain more self awareness and selfishness to desire their own tribes and their own groups to lead. At stage red motivations to get tattoos are to symbolize the number of murders(tears for example), number of thefts or robberies, maybe to symbolize a gang initiation, which some do echo back onto tribalism, and to symbolize gain of power to other members to show them you actually did some criminal acts and that you are worthy in that group. I do think that LL Cool J's tattoos are less stage red but more stage orange, to symbolize his achievements so far as a rapper unless there were a few tats that did symbolize a criminal act of some kind. IMO it's alright that he tattoos a microphone just to symbolize his skills as an Emcee, but it's just weird to me. My understanding of the following modals and history for the above: Spiral Dynamics stages of development(Don Beck), cognitive and moral development, personality types/traits(Myers Briggs and Big Five personality traits modal), 9 stages of ego development(Jane Loevinger), Architypes(Carl Jung), Integral Theory's other lines of development in personal life to societal domains(Ken Wilbur), ideological beliefs indoctrinated and gas lighted by social and cultural programming, family upbringing, information ecology(social media sites like Tik Tok, Twitter, KZbin, mainstream/alternative news sources, TV programs, radios, books, education system, communities et cetera...) and metanarratives that shape and influence our worldviews, and somewhat leveraged by companies to manufacture consent(Noam Chomsky) of the population and consumers.
@poetic5mics
@poetic5mics 7 жыл бұрын
You are so right about LL.. He was being petty about nothing. All because he wanted to have the best verse which he still didn't after the verse change. I say Canibus won the battle hands down. A fan base don't mean nothing without lyrical skills. But LL fans don't see it that way. They see his body and fame as a bargaining chip. So they voted LL without acknowledging Canibus was lyrically better by far.
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 5 жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
99 percent of his fans wear high heels. its a known fact you cant change women's minds once they re made up. no matter how much better canibus is. canibus is a true goat. not one of these mainstream ''lyricals''
@keithdavid1544
@keithdavid1544 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus thought he was slick to try to outshine L with his own joint like who the hell is you
@g4lsupreme542
@g4lsupreme542 5 жыл бұрын
Keith David right!!! And y’all tripping ll was talking heavy on his verse and what made it crazy was he wasn’t telling no lies
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdavid1544 canibus outshines anyone who he is on a track with. had nothing to do wth ll. canibus simply was that good. ll took it personal because he knows he will never have an impact on real hiphop. only the braindead mainstream cancerous part of it.
@davidsimmons4731
@davidsimmons4731 7 жыл бұрын
Lyrically Canibus won. 2nd Rd Knockout is a top 10 dis track. But LL will be seen as the winner because of his status. LL was petty as hell for this beef
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
David Simmons LL won
@emmanuelteshome2469
@emmanuelteshome2469 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE He used the industry to blacklist Canibus. LL got destroyed by Canibus.
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Jarred Thorpe that's wat they say. LL said his side. But u don't come on my record saying nothing that is worse. If I invite u in my stuff n u on playing me then I'ma play u.
@emmanuelteshome2469
@emmanuelteshome2469 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE When Canibus changed his verse, why did LL not change his verse that was dissing Canibus?
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
David Simmons LL won
@harveyquinn3535
@harveyquinn3535 2 жыл бұрын
Eminem had a bar about LL cool Js arm too. “A hellspawn, dropping a stealth bomb, 6 mics in the source, they borrowed one from LLs arm”
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 7 ай бұрын
Yes and now they jave a song !😅😅😅
@knathanknathan
@knathanknathan 6 ай бұрын
That sounded more of a respect
@BodieC92
@BodieC92 4 ай бұрын
LL knew not to fuck with Em
@draxxthemsclounts2478
@draxxthemsclounts2478 4 ай бұрын
It was an edited version of "Role Model". It was actually a doper rhyme than the explicit rhyme. Funny thing is, Em and Can where beefing at the time. Eminem is my favorite rapper, but I think Can beat both Em and LL in their respective beefs.
@JerryWoods-g9g
@JerryWoods-g9g 3 ай бұрын
Nice line but keep Marshall mediocre ass outta this 😂
@DoggyZworlD07
@DoggyZworlD07 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus won hands down lyrically. All LL did was boast about his cash and female fans. Canibus killed LL with proper diss bars 👍
@FullBarBosa
@FullBarBosa 5 жыл бұрын
Only reason why it appeared that LL won was because of the black balling of Canibus after...lyrically Canibus ripped him up. Pun intended
@robertbruce4054
@robertbruce4054 5 жыл бұрын
DoggyZworlD07 I call bs ll bared that nigga up.
@swansmeister
@swansmeister 5 жыл бұрын
@@FullBarBosa wahahahaha but when he battleraps he needs a notepad tho, LL bodied him bitch pls
@vincentsmith4810
@vincentsmith4810 5 жыл бұрын
@@swansmeister so he fucked up it happens ! But as an Emcee Id rather listen to Bis than most of these fools out now!
@MrRef6
@MrRef6 5 жыл бұрын
LL killed canibus & I like canibus. This shit wasn’t even close. Stop it.
@Hellismary
@Hellismary 7 жыл бұрын
I feel like LL overreacted over that shit , the nigga was paying homage and he took it all the way left imo. Canibus ripped that track apart 🔥🔥
@elydot8693
@elydot8693 7 жыл бұрын
Lanier Burton I felt the same way about the whole situation, but when the ego is involved everybody loses. The reason why cannibus remains in the shadows as the most underrated MC, and LL is considered the "GOAT" in his own created fairytale world supported by bias opinions.
@yikes7298
@yikes7298 7 жыл бұрын
RIGHT, and he's being a dick on that drink champs interview too
@nickdorazio3018
@nickdorazio3018 7 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts true dat
@chrishargrove3848
@chrishargrove3848 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Cifuentes He did on" I shot you".
@nathancifuentes2448
@nathancifuentes2448 7 жыл бұрын
Chris Hargrove IMO NO ONE IN HIPHOP COULD FUCK WITH 2PAC , ONLY DMX & MAYB ICE CUBE
@bennibrisco84
@bennibrisco84 3 жыл бұрын
LL is a legend but this was a wack move.He killed Canibus whole career over nothing but ego. 💯 Watching LL bring out Canibus to perform is the best part of this whole thing!💯
@grinchoi1
@grinchoi1 5 жыл бұрын
Lol you gotta look up what subliminal means. LL addresses Canibus directly when he was talking about him n Wyclef setting Canibus up to fail. That def wasnt a subliminal
@xyoungdipsetx
@xyoungdipsetx 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Murthy I agree
@quanarchie2167
@quanarchie2167 5 жыл бұрын
Yea They mentioned each other's names several times when he said it was a subliminal diss🤣🤣
@dwaneasley9119
@dwaneasley9119 4 жыл бұрын
@Gods Child ur absolutely correct. #salute
@piconeschildhoodmemoriespc4346
@piconeschildhoodmemoriespc4346 5 жыл бұрын
2 Rd KO still gives me chills I dont care how Bis's career turned out
@40yearoldman
@40yearoldman 3 жыл бұрын
That was it. True KO
@georgetorres1944
@georgetorres1944 3 жыл бұрын
Jack the Ripper was wack as shit 😂😂
@javonbatiste5984
@javonbatiste5984 3 жыл бұрын
@@georgetorres1944 it's that damn beat I always hated that beat it sounds so damn generic.. The lyrics were on point he definitely barked on Cannibus if he had a better beat too go with those lyrics that diss woulda been better
@georgetorres1944
@georgetorres1944 3 жыл бұрын
@@javonbatiste5984 naw he didn't bark on him those lyrics were either basic or he was repeating what Canibus said just changed it a little
@terhat5543
@terhat5543 3 жыл бұрын
Canibus is one of the illest lyricist that never got his dues,, not many can touch
@themadsneakerhead2370
@themadsneakerhead2370 5 ай бұрын
No one will ever touch can I bus
@gelo888
@gelo888 4 ай бұрын
@@themadsneakerhead2370Dizaster did 😂
@The1998Deck
@The1998Deck 7 жыл бұрын
This story was always so disappointing to me (LL's Behavior), and this recorded convo, makes him seem a little greasy.
@The1998Deck
@The1998Deck 7 жыл бұрын
"we both did something to each other" Canibus didn't do a damned thing to you tho. Smh
@JustDewuan
@JustDewuan 7 жыл бұрын
I agree, it tarnished LL’s legacy a bit. For him to tell Canibus not to diss him was a soft move.
@icompletelyagreewithyouyou2936
@icompletelyagreewithyouyou2936 6 жыл бұрын
All Ny catz are greasy
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 6 жыл бұрын
Greasy?
@tboon5155
@tboon5155 6 жыл бұрын
Yea you ever eaten cat? Greasy as hell haha
@omnicar605
@omnicar605 7 жыл бұрын
These are never disappointing man keep it up
@UPxYOURs2
@UPxYOURs2 4 жыл бұрын
Let’s be honest LL was dead wrong for what he did to canibus 😂
@derrickalexander9710
@derrickalexander9710 2 жыл бұрын
Call a paramedic and tell em he pathetic/ His lyrics ain't energetic he sweet as a diabetic/ Man ll cooked canibus and I'm a fan of both but let's call it what it is.
@KermitRice
@KermitRice 2 жыл бұрын
Nah B, grow up. Stay in your lane, create your style. Grow up!!!
@DonP-gf5hn
@DonP-gf5hn 2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickalexander9710 people forget how much of a beast LL could be on the mic, that dude knocked the hell out of Canibus lol
@user-pn6by7fh2t
@user-pn6by7fh2t 2 жыл бұрын
Canibus bodied the fatty like he his bi*ch🤣
@edwardrussell9911
@edwardrussell9911 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonP-gf5hn Especially In Battle Raps 🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️🤷🏿‍♂️
@JoJoeBOC87
@JoJoeBOC87 7 жыл бұрын
I bet Canibus is ghost writing for a lot of rappers now.
@elydot8693
@elydot8693 7 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt that with all these mumble rapper (epidemic)
@judahson1471
@judahson1471 7 жыл бұрын
+Ely Dot So true!
@marlonthomas8042
@marlonthomas8042 7 жыл бұрын
JoJoeBOC87 he wrote for A+ back in the day But I don’t think he could write lyrics for anyone and have it believable Only people I can think of wouldn’t use a ghost writer on principle Immortal technique and em Even pun couldn’t pull of the words The wordplay defo but not the scientific lyrics. If 21 savage started spitting “get everything in the club thrown at you and your crew” maybe If he then went on to say “From moet bottles, to bar stools, fruits and foods, you got an album out you’ll get hit with your cd too” You’d be like 🤔
@nickdorazio3018
@nickdorazio3018 7 жыл бұрын
Ely Dot omg i cant stand that mumble crap honestly imo its the worst music thats ever been.id rather listen to nothing for the rest of my life then that sheeeiitt
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 6 жыл бұрын
Nah not with these weak "bars"
@JohnSmith-qf9uj
@JohnSmith-qf9uj 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought that we never got the album hip hop fans needed from Canibus and that's a real shame.
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
canibus got nothing but classic albums son fuck you talkin about?
@micsmith672
@micsmith672 4 жыл бұрын
Check out his albums dopeness
@evilbug555to666
@evilbug555to666 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah because he was too busy clout chasing...🤦🤦🤦
@edwinbetancourt3958
@edwinbetancourt3958 3 жыл бұрын
He's really not an "artist" in that regard tbh. He's really a hot rapper. There is a difference between the 2🤷 I agree he's dope...but hooks for real songs and melodies? Nah. He's not that type of talent.
@jordanfuqua62
@jordanfuqua62 Жыл бұрын
​​@@evilbug555to666clout chasing? That man put out like 18817272727337 songs you fucking moron 😂
@isiacfrost5922
@isiacfrost5922 3 жыл бұрын
Poor canibus he didn’t really deserve that at all! That was kind of fucked up! Canibus should’ve just did his verse a little differently and he would have never went through this!💯
@jameshamilton8720
@jameshamilton8720 Жыл бұрын
Honestly....him(Canibus) saying "let me borrow that" (the microphone on LL's arm) *SHOULD'VE NEVER SEEN A DISS* to LL and at the time LL was dropping songs like "Who Shot Ya" and other hardcore songs so of course LL knows what he was doing.
@danbruno5945
@danbruno5945 Жыл бұрын
But then 2nd round knockout would never have happened That Diss track is part of hip hop history, let's me honest sadly he was never going to be mainstream and a big seller so that Diss track is what makes him relevant today
@EdgeO419
@EdgeO419 11 ай бұрын
He literally rerecorded his verse and took out the mic line and LL being the sensitive asshole he is still went in afterwards to record his lines dissing him anyways. All of this shit stems from LL being petty.
@jay-rock6627
@jay-rock6627 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus really won no questions about it !!! Too this day I lose a lot of Love for LL behind all the sucker shit he did but this one took the cake Canibus is a million times lyrical better.
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Jay-Rock wrong news by the way but LL won too
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Jay-Rock listen closely. Like LL said he use lyrics from internet. Lost to disaster cause had no computer.
@jay-rock6627
@jay-rock6627 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE lmao smfh you bugging Canibus was beaten Dizaster but just gave up for some reason. LL lost too Lord Finesse years ago but won't admit it so he played it cool & keep his focus on Kool Moe Dee.
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Jay-Rock if u listen to LL track called the truth u understand
@jay-rock6627
@jay-rock6627 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE And even if someone did lost a particular part in a battle doesn't mean the other artist is a better overall lyricist. Battling is based on schemes & other angles towards that individual. Writing great rap songs is totally different & Canibus lyricist I can listen too & learn a great lot regardless on the powers that be that we don't see.
@JustDewuan
@JustDewuan 7 жыл бұрын
This tarnished LL’s legacy a bit, to be that emotional about an obvious fan admiring your tat and shouting you out on your own record to be seen as a diss? Clearly LL took advantage of a moment to get his “Street” credibility back as when he took shots at Pac no one cared. Canibus was in an odd predicament being that he was asked to feature on a record which ultimately became a diss record at him.. almost like it was planned by LL because why feature a rapper known for battle-bars? It was as if he needed a mark to make his mark which he sort of did with mixed results. Good vid!
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Dewuan And Only LL never had tarnish.
@JustDewuan
@JustDewuan 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE again it’s just my perspective that LL tarnished his legacy as a battle rapper with the way how he handled the conflict with Canibus.
@MrHelmick
@MrHelmick 6 жыл бұрын
Tarnished his legacy how? I don’t hear people talk negatively about this situation at all. If anything he gave Canibus exactly what he wanted, a spotlight. Canibus just failed to capitalize on it.
@HOTVBARSCHOOL
@HOTVBARSCHOOL 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrHelmick LL is a fuckin cornball
@Wesssyde_LB-78
@Wesssyde_LB-78 2 жыл бұрын
And Pac came back saying I’ll rock your 🛎s. 😂😂😂
@equinocturnal
@equinocturnal 4 жыл бұрын
That was a good point you made about Big Sean and K.dot. Dope vid my dude. I'd also like to mention when Canibus rapped against Dizaster, forgot his rhymes, started spitting bars from released albums, and pulled out a notebook during a public battle. Ya hate to see it...
@greezythumb
@greezythumb 5 жыл бұрын
L talking to the man like he's stupid. L was playing him from day one. L showed how petty he is. Even Red and Meth spoke on how sensitive L is..
@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555
@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus definitely won this battle. Second Round Knockout is one of the greatest diss tracks ever on wax. LL cameback hard on The Ripper Strikes back, but lyrically it wasn't on the same level as Second Round Knockout.
@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith
@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith 6 жыл бұрын
Kenny Lopez it was lyrically the same cuz ll responded to everything canabis said
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 5 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith not really
@cjones2005
@cjones2005 5 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith not really
@andrewbintang4591
@andrewbintang4591 5 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith not really
@jerff5411
@jerff5411 4 жыл бұрын
@@TonyTheLoneRiderSmith not really
@JB-cm8zd
@JB-cm8zd 6 ай бұрын
Till dis day i play second round knockout i forgot wat LL's response is called
@thomasbell8451
@thomasbell8451 7 жыл бұрын
That first Canibus album is massively underrated
@marianosantiniello2213
@marianosantiniello2213 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it's well rounded lyrically.
@lostfound34
@lostfound34 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@christianc8929
@christianc8929 5 жыл бұрын
I liked it but I felt his second album was stronger beats and battle style. If the second album would’ve been the first it would’ve better received by his fans. Regardless I liked them both
@blakswizzy
@blakswizzy 5 жыл бұрын
Not really. Bis strength isnt song writing and that album lacked seriously in that department. Yes his lyrics were out of this world but that means nothing when you cant craft a song. It's why he always shined the most when he was a featured artist and in freestyles.
@nestorlopez6500
@nestorlopez6500 5 жыл бұрын
I was a HUGE fan but his album was trash - his second album was better in every way but it was too late, damage done.
@ThatMcflyGuy
@ThatMcflyGuy 7 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly well done. Canibus torched LL Cool J. People are still in denial till this day. LL knew what he was up against and basically begged Canibus not to respond. Ultimately, it was Canibus against LL & Def Jam. It’s funny how LL forced Bis to rewrite his lines but ended up writing bars that were just as epic.
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Eder Rangel LL won
@ThatMcflyGuy
@ThatMcflyGuy 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE Truth hurts.
@MastaInferno
@MastaInferno 3 жыл бұрын
@@averyt6521 the war. Not the Battle!!
@Nastradumas6156
@Nastradumas6156 2 жыл бұрын
Wow LL.opting for an underground track that was tacky
@tpacalypse
@tpacalypse Жыл бұрын
Canibus won that battle. They didn't want him to win because LL was a star.
@tony4534
@tony4534 5 ай бұрын
Canibus lost that battle.
@ShenShin-gv7rg
@ShenShin-gv7rg 4 ай бұрын
Yeah "the goat" definitely got his head put on a spear head for memorabilia. He held his own. But in the end and for how LL handled it All withbthe corny lying anf lying to line the talented brotha up and had cannibus career snatched by rhe big wigs with a lil help from other artist and AR's is hella lame. Then he goes to do tv shows and movies. C'mon now. The man totally left hip hop with the mic on his arm. Meanwhile the world lost out on some really good talent. Cannibus was actually a prolific MC. Hella underrated. This has become a common thing in the music industry. They don't like it when their puppets and CASHCOW Prize artist lose them money. Especially by the hands of a opposing label or artist from an opposing label going against the grain. Cannibus respectfully won that battle for what it was worth. Sad to see the brotha go out the way he did. But the 90's was lit.💯🔥 Best era of hip hop ever. Period 💯🎯🔥
@frantzhendrickcajuste5067
@frantzhendrickcajuste5067 3 ай бұрын
Canibus won but the star got the title !!!!
@tony4534
@tony4534 3 ай бұрын
Canibus lost that battle.
@frantzhendrickcajuste5067
@frantzhendrickcajuste5067 3 ай бұрын
Canibus won ( in my opinion ) | he went after a big fish, and i do understand why.
@popi2971
@popi2971 7 жыл бұрын
Of course LL won the war but the battle was easily Canibus. Canibus dis track sounded more polished, LL’s seemed rushed. Also lyrically Canibus was just overall better.
@vampirascoffin870
@vampirascoffin870 5 жыл бұрын
Lolll word!!!!! Facts!!
@deonmills
@deonmills 5 жыл бұрын
Not to mention......homie waited a whole month to reply to it
@brandonmatthews4934
@brandonmatthews4934 3 жыл бұрын
That lyrical miracle shit wasn’t nothing go spit that shit at poetry battle
@xyoungdipsetx
@xyoungdipsetx 5 жыл бұрын
That’s dope dmx and canibus and pun all chilling
@feodiente9460
@feodiente9460 5 жыл бұрын
Can't forget Mos Def..
@schizoframia4874
@schizoframia4874 3 жыл бұрын
Canibus cheated on his cypher
@BingeworthyContent
@BingeworthyContent 3 жыл бұрын
@@schizoframia4874 How lol
@schizoframia4874
@schizoframia4874 3 жыл бұрын
@@BingeworthyContent it wasnt a freestyle it was a song he already wrote. 2nd round knockout
@BingeworthyContent
@BingeworthyContent 3 жыл бұрын
@@schizoframia4874 Well that shows you how much YOU DONT KNOW ABOUT HIP HOP because EVERYONE'S RAPS WERE WRITTEN YOU CLOWN
@ikennakonkwo5939
@ikennakonkwo5939 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the situation was wrong on both of their parts. Canibus had a verse about borrowing a microphone from LL Cool J and he felt offended when Canibus was being respective and playing the competitive role so he asked him to change the verse, and he promised. Canibus asked LL Cool J if he can verse, he said yes but he never changed. LL told Canibus that they’ll work together on a song and not to get hectic. A few moments later, he dropped 2nd round knockout. LL came back and got him. Rasta Imposter was the hardest diss song aimed at Canibus. It was very lyrical, which proves that LL didn’t lose his edge as some may say. This song kind of hurt Canibus’ career in my opinion. Either way, one of the best diss songs from 2 best rappers.
@sloanemorgan6624
@sloanemorgan6624 7 жыл бұрын
Damn u took me back with this one and I learned something's​ I didn't know...
@alexmotts
@alexmotts 5 жыл бұрын
I dont understand how anyone ever thought LL won. Canibus was spitting bars. Bars after bars. LL barely said any shit in his disses. Canibus all day. One of the greatest to ever touch a mic
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
ll said that canibus wanted to socialize, but the phone call after ll disstrack proves that it was ll who wanted to socialize. like a little girl talking to her parents.
@williams.5158
@williams.5158 5 жыл бұрын
But LL’s witty ass verses make you laugh at Canibus. Wit is intelligence and its interesting as hell.
@orange-6109
@orange-6109 5 жыл бұрын
LL also dropped bars guys let us not hate. This to me was a draw. SAYING 99 PERCENT of your fans don't exist was one of the most vicious rebuttals in hip hop.
@gullybop1695
@gullybop1695 5 жыл бұрын
LL rahlo-deed Canibus.
@corith7279
@corith7279 5 жыл бұрын
William S. You’ve clearly never listened to bis
@heb903
@heb903 5 жыл бұрын
Glad they finally squashed the beef..
@defjeff4297
@defjeff4297 7 жыл бұрын
Quake you killed it with this one! This is a beef that people really don't talk about! I think now looking back all the guys who really rate bars would agree that Canibus is a legend in hiphop. He never really gets the props he deserves for his ability but Canibus is definitely a legend. Great video man!
@defjeff4297
@defjeff4297 7 жыл бұрын
TrueSinister not by comparison to even the other beefs that quake has covered
@crystalblake8096
@crystalblake8096 7 жыл бұрын
i agree
@JoJoeBOC87
@JoJoeBOC87 7 жыл бұрын
Quake back at it again! Perfect execution on this Battle. I give you 100%. Canibus clearly won. I think LL's stardom suffocated Canibus career. If he left the beef at the first album and just focused on himself he would have been at Legendary status.
@JoJoeBOC87
@JoJoeBOC87 7 жыл бұрын
TrueSinister it must have been because of his obsession to diss LL instead of thinking creatively and growing.
@gmtrashtalker7479
@gmtrashtalker7479 4 ай бұрын
That second round KO is probably the best diss track
@colinhead7414
@colinhead7414 7 жыл бұрын
These videos are too dope bruh. U really do ur research and go behind the scenes with things ppl may not know..especially this new generation of rap. Keep doin ur thing bruh.
@orchestra1441
@orchestra1441 5 жыл бұрын
LL wins the battle of longevity, Canibus wins the war of lyrics.
@liamsmith2340
@liamsmith2340 5 жыл бұрын
LL didn't win anything!
@iamdisappointedwithmyachie4036
@iamdisappointedwithmyachie4036 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderedinger biz won both though
@orchestra1441
@orchestra1441 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderedinger i would have to agree 100 percent and thats actually better than i put it...
@keenafromphilly
@keenafromphilly 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh..huh
@iamdisappointedwithmyachie4036
@iamdisappointedwithmyachie4036 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderedinger biz is still a staple in the underground culture, still makes amazing music and has never lost a battle. Talk all you want about Dizaster but you can't say LL is better
@williamwalsh1533
@williamwalsh1533 3 жыл бұрын
7:42 This conversation between LL and Canibus is gold. Gives me a new perspective.
@realnesx
@realnesx 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus is a Lyrical genius Einstein. Canibus spits bars that I have to rewind and play back, just to make sure I didn't mis hear the genius
@SpliffStar79
@SpliffStar79 5 жыл бұрын
realnesx right. Licking your lips and rubbing oils on your chest don’t beat real bars.
@frond8951
@frond8951 5 жыл бұрын
he got absolutely bodied by dizaster
@LynxStarAuto
@LynxStarAuto 5 жыл бұрын
frond That entire thing was extremely strange.
@nooneasked6800
@nooneasked6800 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpliffStar79 something Ll raps about all the time especially he always made music female enjoy not for reall niggas
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
@@frond8951 first round was for canibus. 2nd round also for canibus because dizaster could only kill him by mocking his style (eminem did the same thing because he simply cant d better lol). when has dizaster made a song as deep as secrets amongst cosmonauts? or channel zero? i ll be waiting for your answer.
@slumpsosa2175
@slumpsosa2175 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus won he diss track was way better
@xyoungdipsetx
@xyoungdipsetx 5 жыл бұрын
Slump Sosa hell yeah
@bigjay4862
@bigjay4862 3 жыл бұрын
I think you gave a fair synopsis on the entire battle!! Me personally? I think they both won! Cannabis got great exposure by going up against the GOAT! and LL is still an icon and a legend regardless of this battle!
@jaycee5664
@jaycee5664 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus won without a doubt, but the price was his career... such a talented dude man...
@banick217
@banick217 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Canibus career never existed because of ll cool j. LL destroyed him. Hands down.
@orange-6109
@orange-6109 5 жыл бұрын
It was a draw..both went in hard.
@bigjoe91siccness
@bigjoe91siccness 4 жыл бұрын
Canibus lost money... his career equals the best lyricist of al time. LL supporters most likely wear high heels, check the numbers man.
@user-pn6by7fh2t
@user-pn6by7fh2t 2 жыл бұрын
@@banick217 drop em high heels and take your head outta ya a$$
@remiyoung9767
@remiyoung9767 7 жыл бұрын
This made me lose hella respect for LL J. He ain't "cool" no more
@keithdavid1544
@keithdavid1544 5 жыл бұрын
No. It's because he said get your own tattoo. You don't borrow anything from nobody
@brandonsurreyguy
@brandonsurreyguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdavid1544 yea true it's all about having integrity and protecting your manhood
@mederwilliams3359
@mederwilliams3359 5 жыл бұрын
Lol ctfu you took the words out my mouth lol
@A_Av321
@A_Av321 3 жыл бұрын
I still revisit this beef on occasion and Canibus always takes my vote. I give LL props for coming strong on the Jack The Ripper track bc his style is not only aggressive but comes with punches too, way different from his other material. Unfortunately, everything before and after that track is the same boring style -it’s like LL is forcing ideas / storyline. Plus, he let his ego get the best of him and unnecessarily exaggerated the whole situation that was never there to begin with.
@earnestwilliams148
@earnestwilliams148 5 жыл бұрын
Yo ,L had the balls to go at iron mike and kept his teeth,that’s legendary baby lol
@georgebunker348
@georgebunker348 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that Canibus won! I went out and bought a Rottweiler and called him Can-I-Bus. He was the baddest Rottweiler ever! That mofo was 155lbs, solid!! Looked like and sounded like a F'n bear. Lived to be 13 years old, and died in my arms one Easter Sunday. RIP my friend!
@tubebammy
@tubebammy 2 жыл бұрын
Its actually saying a lot about his lyrical skill considering he was also beefing with Eminem at the same time.
@MrBuck1113
@MrBuck1113 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus lyrically torched LL in that battle #Facts
@mikiy84
@mikiy84 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best hip-hop beefs of all time. for sure ll over reacted, but he had a big ego at the time, and only needed a hint of disrespect to retaliate like he did. I also love the fact that canibus stood his ground and retaliated, even though he knew what was at stake. legendary times, especially that roundtable freestyles with big pun, mos def, dmx and canibus
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
there was no disrespect at all. not even a single hint of disrespect. ll is just 1 of those oversensitive bitches
@SuperToogreat
@SuperToogreat 2 жыл бұрын
2rd knockout was one of the craziest diss songs. He really ate up LL
@themadsneakerhead2370
@themadsneakerhead2370 5 ай бұрын
Ate him
@robinktoussaint
@robinktoussaint 5 ай бұрын
Look up the Ripper strikes back... Annihilated Canibus
@dinono10
@dinono10 4 ай бұрын
​@@robinktoussaint1000%
@TheHipHop_Junkie
@TheHipHop_Junkie 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus won the Battle for all the points you mentioned there, as a Lyricist Canibus was on a level LL could not reach even tough LL was a legendary emcee, i heard some live diss freestyles from canibus that are some hard shit! I believe if it wasn't for the fact that LL was a legend Canibus reputation would have not been hurt and he would probably be more successful than he was, if Canibus had dissed some other rapper with a lesser status his image would not have been hurt, a lot of people sided with LL just because he was the "G.O.A.T." and ultimately that was his demise most people in the industry decided to blackball him. As Canibus said most of LL fans wear high heels and and those fans ain't real hiphop heads to actually analyse a beef and that's why Canibus image fell even tough he won the battle
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Miguel menezes y'all nuts LL won
@MegatronLegacy
@MegatronLegacy 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus won that but the machine of DEF JAM could let LL lose so they told DJs to not fuck with him or DEF JAM would not support them. Its a big game man. Lyrically Canibus won
@ronnybundlz4237
@ronnybundlz4237 7 жыл бұрын
Plus Canibus album was kinda wack...it only had a few bangers...much less than expected. But lyrically he murdered LL.
@robuchiha5933
@robuchiha5933 7 жыл бұрын
It really does have everything to do with record labels and djs and If you think they don’t be conspiring against artist to this day than you’re fucking dumb af
@rugerREL07
@rugerREL07 7 жыл бұрын
LL wildly sensitive
@keithdavid1544
@keithdavid1544 5 жыл бұрын
It's because you need to get your own tattoo. That's why
@smileykid18
@smileykid18 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdavid1544 still sensitive ...
@brandonsurreyguy
@brandonsurreyguy 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithdavid1544 yup that is sensitive there's alot of people with the Japanese letter tattoo fucking LL dumbo
@underdoggrecords5701
@underdoggrecords5701 5 жыл бұрын
Most gay men are
@Miraale199
@Miraale199 2 жыл бұрын
Second round KO was a gem. one of the best diss tracks of all time.
@raymatt73
@raymatt73 5 жыл бұрын
we have a lyricist vs a rapper, a MC vs an entertainer ... do the knowledge
@calvertbeatz5288
@calvertbeatz5288 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@raymatt73
@raymatt73 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderedinger give me lyricism over commercialism anyday
@raymatt73
@raymatt73 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderedinger come on man ... you gave your opinion on my opinion & now you want to say mine doesnt matter. alright ... you win
@adamantiiispencespence4012
@adamantiiispencespence4012 5 жыл бұрын
@@raymatt73 except that would still be giving you LL. The lines sampled from 2nd Round KO amounted to "LL's too mainstream, commercial and soft I'll beat him (even makes it clear he's talking physically and the though of him in a physical altercation LL is conedic). The few lines sampled from Ripper Strikes rebuts all that. LL's says back "you and the people you roll with are not tough and quit acting like it. Beat me? You couldn't do shit to me without government intervention. Also you claim to look down on me for being too mainstream but you want to be where I am, you idolize me! Oh and my most of my fans wear high heels? Ooooh! At least I got fans." In roughly the same amount of lines LL was the one actually saying alot more especially since he was also taking aim at Tyson in those lines not just Canibus. How is that not being more lyrical? And lines from LL are much more damning because there's alot more credibility to them, that last line especially. Canibus never put out an album that did well because never garnered much of a following. Hell I was introduced to the fact he was ever a thing from a reaction video to Canibitch by Eminem. This man is mainly remembered for his feud with LL. If it never happened you could fill a station wagon with all the people who knew a damn thing about him.
@raymatt73
@raymatt73 5 жыл бұрын
@@adamantiiispencespence4012 see fam ... thats were some may get it twisted. just because one says more damning lines doesnt make him more lyrical. take big vs pac. pac crushed my man on hit em up, but if you were to take who shot ya as a diss (which big said it wasnt) that joint was way more lyrical. take eazy vs dre & snoop ... real MF G's was sick !! it was factual jab after factual jab, but wasnt lyrical at all. i could go on & on about "rappers" vs "lyricists". even if you watch battle raps you know the guy with the most disses doesnt always win. & far as album sales ... we know that doesnt mean anything as for lyrics, look at todays music. but back to LL & canibus ... depending on who you ask & what level of hip hop (not rap) they on, they know canibus from the mixtape & battling scene, not for his beef with LL. canibus had joints on clue & flex tapes that blew cats minds. we know LL had the juice at the time so of course people wanted & expected him to win. like nelly vs krs ... people wanted him to win so they brought up album sales, popularity, etc. its people who actually didnt know about krs until the beef. thats the levels of hip hop & rap. check it im from the era of LL & he a good rapper, but a lyricist ... naaa. an MC ... naaa. but thats just my opinion & a lot of others that get smothered out by the masses
@brocktheobserver8293
@brocktheobserver8293 5 жыл бұрын
Poor Canibus he was illest upcoming lyricist he definitely won
@maxwellkamau9047
@maxwellkamau9047 2 жыл бұрын
DRY
@canelodadon9938
@canelodadon9938 2 жыл бұрын
Canibus won easy. We all know that. But Em got the push... LL didn't expect bus to come so heavy... If bus had more popular music it may have been different... LL had too much influence... I wish they pushed Bus against Em since they came up at the same time... If I could rewrite hip hop history I'd have Bus and Em battle in 2000 or 1999... LL had too much power
@tyneelilg
@tyneelilg Жыл бұрын
​@nevinreid311amen that man is a fruit cake
@antonkomarov9025
@antonkomarov9025 Жыл бұрын
LL think he all that, lol😅
@mugabebakulu5817
@mugabebakulu5817 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus won, LL took two Ls.
@CloroxBleach-uz8mz
@CloroxBleach-uz8mz 7 жыл бұрын
Mugabe Bakulu Baka HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@Evol1HipHop
@Evol1HipHop 6 жыл бұрын
LLL Cool J...he gained another L to his name
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@janus5cl
@janus5cl 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah because Canibus career definitely set off after that, he wasn’t forgotten and his albums didn’t flop and are admired as masterpieces nowadays.
@joeygana8864
@joeygana8864 6 жыл бұрын
Janus Lindenskov Cailloux He Lost, LL killed him, with the ripper strikes back
@intellectual360
@intellectual360 7 жыл бұрын
To me, L sounded Shook in that phone conversation
@deathrager2404
@deathrager2404 5 жыл бұрын
shook, butthurt as hell too.
@pasajerodelabrujula8261
@pasajerodelabrujula8261 5 жыл бұрын
That why he was being scandalous af and trying to dominate the conversation
@Karateka1973
@Karateka1973 Жыл бұрын
The real winner of this beef is us, the fans of Hip-Hop. Here we are 25 years still remembering, arguing and more importantly, we"re still playing those tracks.
@MrLittlec7
@MrLittlec7 5 жыл бұрын
Cannibus won...everyone knows this!
@shinez24
@shinez24 5 жыл бұрын
New York radio was mad biased. Def Jam basically paid for radio play at that time.
@MrLittlec7
@MrLittlec7 5 жыл бұрын
@Droo Bastard You are using revisionism in the wrong context. You have to explore the history of white men revising history for their own benefit as away to distort truth. Cannibus being more lyrically sound is a fact. LL being more popular and having the leverage to marginalize Cannibus' ability is also fact.
@abonbarksdale4505
@abonbarksdale4505 5 жыл бұрын
chris little fse dude Canabis got bodied
@biesman5
@biesman5 5 жыл бұрын
@@abonbarksdale4505 You can't even type his name correctly. "Canabis" haha.
@yourbeardispatchyaf
@yourbeardispatchyaf 5 жыл бұрын
Have you ever actually listened to the lyrics of Ripper Strikes Back? LL is not capable of losin a battle. Love Canibus and 2nd rd KO but LL deeeeeeestroooyed him. No question.
@VIFG
@VIFG 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with DJ Premier. Canibus won.
@superdopehiphop
@superdopehiphop 5 жыл бұрын
vIfg video?
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 5 жыл бұрын
You can't fuck with prem
@---kr3zg
@---kr3zg 4 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does it seem like Canibus had almost every legendary emcee on his side during this beef 😄
@loggiepoggie
@loggiepoggie 3 жыл бұрын
I was sold on Big Pun 🔥
@G.DD3SS
@G.DD3SS 5 жыл бұрын
Sad how great writers are so underappreciated in the industry. They are not pushed as hard and consumers don't seem to support them either.
@jjbing3
@jjbing3 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus would have been a G if he performed his original verse at the live show!! The ultimate payback!! 🤷🏾‍♂️
@JustMe-nk7ho
@JustMe-nk7ho 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bstew408
@bstew408 5 жыл бұрын
Yo I was thinking the same thing. He would of murder him live on his own show. The crowd would have went nuts. But missed opportunity.
@JB-cm8zd
@JB-cm8zd 6 ай бұрын
Its actually sad hearing Canibus when he was speaking about the situation with L u can tell he felt let down 2 be dissed by 1 of his idols
@blcharles602
@blcharles602 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus > LL Cool J
@janus5cl
@janus5cl 6 жыл бұрын
Mama Said Knock You Out > Every one of Canibus albums
@marianosantiniello2213
@marianosantiniello2213 6 жыл бұрын
@@janus5cl must have never heard the rip the jacker album. 😕
@poorweakcua6372
@poorweakcua6372 6 жыл бұрын
mariano santiniello VERY UNDERRATED
@imranahmed1542
@imranahmed1542 5 жыл бұрын
Canibus killed LL lyrically 100%, 2nd round ko ended the battle
@shankiawilliams997
@shankiawilliams997 4 жыл бұрын
I, for one, still listen to Canibus... that will NEVER stop UNLESS he goes commercial
@jaymays8800
@jaymays8800 5 жыл бұрын
LL lyrically cannot stand toe to toe with Canibus. END OF STORY! ... J
@pinkymcnastystinky3465
@pinkymcnastystinky3465 4 жыл бұрын
“Cannibitch”
@tedsirlouis9038
@tedsirlouis9038 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinkymcnastystinky3465 majority vote says otherwise
@pinkymcnastystinky3465
@pinkymcnastystinky3465 4 жыл бұрын
Ted Sirlouis “cannibitch”
@tedsirlouis9038
@tedsirlouis9038 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinkymcnastystinky3465 what bars L spit
@pinkymcnastystinky3465
@pinkymcnastystinky3465 4 жыл бұрын
@@tedsirlouis9038 not him em boi
@CallMeMicahT
@CallMeMicahT 7 жыл бұрын
Quake, is that a subscriber on your arm? Let me borrow that
@DiverseMentality
@DiverseMentality 7 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
@Hellismary
@Hellismary 7 жыл бұрын
😂☠️! 👀 Quake you gone let him come at you son?!
@ChargingWizard
@ChargingWizard 7 жыл бұрын
micahT - you don’t wanna borrow that, you wanna idolize
@SeriousBeats
@SeriousBeats 5 жыл бұрын
ChargingWizard you don't wanna battle, you wanna subscribeeee
@schizoframia4874
@schizoframia4874 3 жыл бұрын
@@DiverseMentality you need to do a shitty low qual phone call
@ericrodriguez5776
@ericrodriguez5776 Жыл бұрын
A team up with these two would have been straight fire! 🎉
@thisisanewusername4662
@thisisanewusername4662 Жыл бұрын
nah. their energies don't mix.
@luiso.9103
@luiso.9103 5 жыл бұрын
Can-i-bus murked LL in lyrics . Period. He lost that battle.
@KILLJOY375
@KILLJOY375 7 жыл бұрын
The recorded phone was enough to show that LL was not truthful with the dude. For that alone LL lost my respect as an artist and as a man. It was very clear that LL knew he was in the wrong with going after him. The main reason why LL stopped the beef is because of the death of Tupac Shakur and Biggie. I saw LL talk about it on a night time show around that time.
@kingsaintides7227
@kingsaintides7227 5 жыл бұрын
Wow....but i feel you on that
@kingsaintides7227
@kingsaintides7227 5 жыл бұрын
@Jscottmoody beat it
@southernchef1
@southernchef1 Жыл бұрын
This beef would have never started if LL would’ve just changed his verse in the first track, that’s called icon Behavior so all of this I put on LL he asked canibus to come back to the studio to change his verse and canibus did, LL knew exactly what he was doing when he didn’t change his verse. That’s what I mean. People in this industry, always going after the newcomers, and destroying their career because of their aged status in the industry.
@demonzoro3893
@demonzoro3893 7 жыл бұрын
You always drop some good shit just when I'm about to go to sleep and i always say fuck sleep gotta watch this fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@nathancifuentes2448
@nathancifuentes2448 7 жыл бұрын
Demon Zoro HAHAHAHAHAHAHA THATS REAL
@Lucas-st3ft
@Lucas-st3ft 7 жыл бұрын
Canibus is the lyrical G.O.A.T
@minzy421
@minzy421 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2nd round ko ranked no. 3 as greatest diss track of all time. Had more sting and impact to it. The flow and bars are memorable which made it great. People keep forgetting Master P was also on 4 3 2 1 track
@Lionel4482
@Lionel4482 5 жыл бұрын
We all know LL would not have said that if he were even in the same city as Tyson.
@Lionel4482
@Lionel4482 4 жыл бұрын
@jessesam how you figure
@MsBrucelee1986
@MsBrucelee1986 2 жыл бұрын
Ll don't want to see Tyson with them hands
@Lionel4482
@Lionel4482 2 жыл бұрын
@Luo Dong True, but you don’t have to be afraid of someone to get knocked out. There’s a lot of brave fools in the world.
@wahiedali5941
@wahiedali5941 7 жыл бұрын
I was waiting on a new "who really won" video from you man. Great video. My request for the next few videos that I'm sure everyone would enjoy is 50 vs JaRule and Eminem vs Benzino. 👍
@Fors33n
@Fors33n 11 ай бұрын
Both artists were spittin
@eloyh1979
@eloyh1979 7 жыл бұрын
LL had a better career but still got murdered
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
eloy h LL won
@nathanamazin8464
@nathanamazin8464 7 жыл бұрын
AVERY TATE lost lyrically
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
Nathan Kachurowski nope really listen Allot was said with energy too
@averyt6521
@averyt6521 7 жыл бұрын
eloy h nope
@KicksAddictNY
@KicksAddictNY 7 жыл бұрын
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