Logan Paul's Terrible Response...

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SomeOrdinaryGamers

SomeOrdinaryGamers

Жыл бұрын

Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at the terrible response from Logan Paul regarding the Cryptozoo investigation by Coffeezilla. With a lot to say and look into let's dive right into breaking this horrible response. Thanks for watching!
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@SomeOrdinaryGamers
@SomeOrdinaryGamers Жыл бұрын
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@paulmccartneyofc6883
@paulmccartneyofc6883 Жыл бұрын
Okie dokie
@wd-4059
@wd-4059 Жыл бұрын
I love cream
@cedaisgod727
@cedaisgod727 Жыл бұрын
Sup guys
@feetusgaming779
@feetusgaming779 Жыл бұрын
👍
@TheBlackSpartan103
@TheBlackSpartan103 Жыл бұрын
Aye captain
@Ilya__s
@Ilya__s Жыл бұрын
Logan Paul getting absolutely ratio'd by outing himself as an incompetent narcissist in an attempt to say he isn't a scammer is absolutely amazing, and definitely the first treat of 2023.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Жыл бұрын
The fact that people still act like Logan's behavior is 'shocking' this far into the game is the only thing that is actually shocking. Dude was and always has been a grade A douche since the start so what made anyone think that THIS was going to be legit? Didn't he also have some influencer course that he scammed people with a while back or was that his brother?
@lorenzo42p
@lorenzo42p Жыл бұрын
yet his followers think he cleared everything up and coffeezilla is at fault. insane how people can twist things in their own head. but then, those same people give millions to that asshat.
@zac-1
@zac-1 Жыл бұрын
and everyone will forget in a few weeks when the next youtuber controversy happens and cry about that for a couple weeks and move on from it. It's a never ending cycle
@dallassegno
@dallassegno Жыл бұрын
i just can't wait until this garbage teir game is made and reviewed
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Жыл бұрын
@@lorenzo42p Most of his followers are kids who are so desperate to be like him they want to live the dream that their idol can do no wrong and that it's everyone else in the world that's the bad guy. That's how he can keep the grift going; Logan is VERY MUCH aware of the type of fans he has which is why he knows he can keep pitching things like this and get away with it because they'll always try to bail him out even if the evidence of shady business is glowing in front of them in neon colors.
@dolomitilino9015
@dolomitilino9015 Жыл бұрын
One week Later: Logan: Mutahar, I’ve been a fan of your channel for a long time…until now ,cause you’ve lost your journalistic integrity
@dionstewart7394
@dionstewart7394 Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
@chongjunxiang3002
@chongjunxiang3002 Жыл бұрын
Based on Muta capability, I will not surprise that he can make a trilogy of scanning Logan wallet for that content too. Is it milking the name of Logan? Yes but who care? It is juicy content that everyone want.
@user-hb7py7xy7b
@user-hb7py7xy7b Жыл бұрын
@@chongjunxiang3002 looks like pump'n'dump to me. I think this is illegal in USA.
@dolomitilino9015
@dolomitilino9015 Жыл бұрын
@@chongjunxiang3002 I’m just waiting for Logan to post himself in a polo and in dark-face on his Twitter at this point
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 Жыл бұрын
@@user-hb7py7xy7b On paper it is. In reality, it takes a lot for rich people to face consequences for it.
@BlockyRaptor
@BlockyRaptor Жыл бұрын
Very ironic when the guy who filmed the corpse of a suicide victim tries to call out Coffee for being morally questionable
@BlazeMakesGames
@BlazeMakesGames Жыл бұрын
the best part of his "You should have contacted me not my manager" comment is that when Coffee posted proof that he already tried reaching out to Logan directly, his response was "I can't be expected to respond to every DM I get on every social!" Yeah Logan... THATS WHY YOU HAVE A MANAGER
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
yea butthis was a serious topic so he should have asked the manager to let him contact logan directly or smth
@mrsanguini5819
@mrsanguini5819 Жыл бұрын
@@josephleebob3828 …And that’s exactly what he did
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsanguini5819 he didnt and the manager didnt tell logan about it
@mrsanguini5819
@mrsanguini5819 Жыл бұрын
@@josephleebob3828 He did contact Logan directly- he was the first person he went to. It was AFTER not getting through to Logan that he went on to Jeff, who he still asked to pass on the request to Logan (which he seemingly didn’t do).
@josephleebob3828
@josephleebob3828 Жыл бұрын
@@mrsanguini5819 ye ik and he should have asked again or asked the manager to let him contact logan
@morxemplum
@morxemplum Жыл бұрын
This isn't the first time that January has been a terrible month for Logan.
@goofballmaster9999
@goofballmaster9999 Жыл бұрын
Maaaan Thats truly one of the worst coincidences honestly HAHAHAHAA
@tayilorr
@tayilorr Жыл бұрын
time is a flat circle
@ardantop132na6
@ardantop132na6 Жыл бұрын
Those who don't know their history, will repeat their mistakes.
@flamingdog9207
@flamingdog9207 Жыл бұрын
Things truly never change, Logan is still the same asshole laughing at corpses that he was years ago.
@deistriox3403
@deistriox3403 Жыл бұрын
FFOOORRREEESSSTT!
@pelayiou
@pelayiou Жыл бұрын
Seems like Logan has made another severe lapse in his judgement, huh
@xystumlol
@xystumlol Жыл бұрын
@YeaMan who asked
@enthiegavoir5955
@enthiegavoir5955 Жыл бұрын
Several in fact, for a continuous length of time
@poot-poot
@poot-poot Жыл бұрын
A continuous one it seems
@lorenzo42p
@lorenzo42p Жыл бұрын
for a looong time with no breaks
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis Жыл бұрын
Did he ever stop?
@chooseachannelname2840
@chooseachannelname2840 Жыл бұрын
i think its very kind of logan paul to assist coffeezilla in his efforts to expose logan paul
@bauuhmasquerade459
@bauuhmasquerade459 Жыл бұрын
This comment this made me laugh way too hard
@gutbucket6184
@gutbucket6184 11 ай бұрын
That is in the running for the greatest youtube comment of all time.
@remordreemurr
@remordreemurr Жыл бұрын
The worst part is that instead of giving zootoken holders their money back, he decides to spend that money in a lawyer in order to attack the person who spoke up for the victims
@largeshark9021
@largeshark9021 Жыл бұрын
He's a public celebrity, he already had a lawyer on retainer
@meleemastermaa1449
@meleemastermaa1449 Жыл бұрын
@@largeshark9021 Yeah, he still has to pay the lawyer though, for as long as the lawsuit lasts. The point is that he could use that money for refunds.
@negative6442
@negative6442 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I don't have much sympathy for the people who lost money on this garbage. It's been known for ages now that anything in the nft sphere is a scam, especially when it's coming from a snake like Logan Paul.
@Twiddle_things
@Twiddle_things Жыл бұрын
@@meleemastermaa1449 what a moron. He could've kept his reputation safe and given the money to them, but instead he is ruining his reputation while spending the money on a lawyer(s)
@mikes9393
@mikes9393 Жыл бұрын
Literally this comment.
@MoonWielder
@MoonWielder Жыл бұрын
I don't blame Stephen for not going on Logan Paul’s podcast. It is so clear that Logan can't comprehend the situation. To him, Stephen is a journalist in this context, not a fellow content creator. Who in his right mind would invite a journalist who is investigating your crimes to a collaboration to create content for you? It hurts my brain trying to wrap my head around that.
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid
@SuperCosmicMutantSquid Жыл бұрын
What I love is that it really does come of like Logan is trying to throw out as many buzzterms as he can in order to make Coffee in the wrong here. He kept calling him a journalist when a lot of viewers don't recognize Coffee for that, at least in whatever terms Logan is trying to imply. It feels like he only used that term because he knows that for the most part, your average KZbin viewer doesn't see a lot of faith in journalist in the mainstream news. Theory? Logan is trying to make Coffee out to be as if he's working in 'the mainstream' so he can paint himself out as the 'independent, put-upon underdog content creator' when Logan is the last fucking person to be seen as an underdog of any sort, let along someone who is put upon. Mother fucker made a complete tool out of himself during a luxury trip to Japan and that was before the events of the forest but no, he's the real victim here gaiz!
@boston3233
@boston3233 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid OK but what you coffee dick riders don’t seem to get is it’s not Logan Paul’s fault that these people fell for what he was putting out. Maybe before falling for an influencer is crypto BS maybe do some research before seeing hey, this looks cool.
@adrianfleming3437
@adrianfleming3437 Жыл бұрын
No he can comprehend what you are seeing is the old deny deny deny and he caught so he still denying
@WitheredDayZz
@WitheredDayZz Жыл бұрын
Also Logan's podcast is basically just filled that Yes Men that back him up on everything he says
@RebbyEviolite
@RebbyEviolite Жыл бұрын
@YeaMan oh hey, this bot is still around.
@johnclark926
@johnclark926 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you addressed how ridiculously overblown Zachary’s “criminal” history is. I was trying to look up and verify it myself, but obviously I couldn’t get anywhere since they’ve been expunged. Which begs the question; how the ever-loving fcuk does Logan’s legal team have the investigative power to find a 20+ year old expunged record and a mugshot from who knows where, yet they apparently had no idea about Jake’s incredibly shady past nor Eddie’s obviously fabricated achievements by using a search engine once?
@GekkoOne
@GekkoOne Жыл бұрын
That's easy, Logan's investigative skills only work when he has to defend himself by discrediting people. Selective diligence, 100%
@insa2242
@insa2242 Жыл бұрын
It’s infuriating nobody is really calling this out…. Logan just totally defamed and invaded this man’s privacy.
@lvrego
@lvrego Жыл бұрын
My guess would be PR firm does it. At least his whole response felt like written by one.
@richardshiflett5181
@richardshiflett5181 Жыл бұрын
Because Logan wanted to hire them for criminal reasons and to use them as scapegoats later.
@babayega1717
@babayega1717 Жыл бұрын
My question is, how old was Z *20* years ago? I mean what, like 18 at best?? Look at him he can't be more than 40 years old. If he hadn't admitted to it himself, I'd have been skeptical that it was true at all.
@selfexplanatory6459
@selfexplanatory6459 Жыл бұрын
It’s hilarious how Logan Paul can articulately and concisely judge Coffeezilla’s supposed lack of due diligence while justifying his own actions by essentially saying “it’s not my fault I’m stupid”.
@choco699
@choco699 Жыл бұрын
Another thing that got pointed out was the "illegal recording", the call started with "can I get comments on the zoo project" as well as introduction. That's straight up giving consent by giving comments after fully knowing who that person was.
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
Explicit consent and implied consent are different. But legality does not equal morality. Law only seeks to make the act of achieving justice - neutral or good outcomes - more efficient. Sometimes it gets it wrong. And In this case everyone can agree that the recordings are of overwhelming Public interest and did no damage to be claimed by a potential lawsuit
@misterinvalid6535
@misterinvalid6535 Жыл бұрын
@@ayoCC The thing is,the wiretapping laws being referenced don’t actually require consent. They prohibit recording someone when they’d have a reasonable expectation of privacy. If you straight up tell someone ‘hey this call is going to be recorded’, it doesn’t matter if they consent to the recording or not. They’ve lost the reasonable expectation that the call would be private, so it’s legal to record. The question is if you’d still have a reasonable expectation that a call would be private after being told by someone who you know is a journalist that they’re reaching out for comments. Which would be a question for the courts if it ever went anywhere (which it probably won’t now).
@hihihihi3806
@hihihihi3806 Жыл бұрын
Muta dissecting a 7 minute video in 45 minutes is my favorite types of muta videos
@qadi796
@qadi796 Жыл бұрын
@YeaMan maybe first learn how to spell before you say anything 💀
@gokrtkd816
@gokrtkd816 Жыл бұрын
Adios @YeaMan you pathetic bot
@Idk-do1ui
@Idk-do1ui Жыл бұрын
@@qadi796 “paige” moment
@tanuki88
@tanuki88 Жыл бұрын
@@qadi796 maybe keep it to yourself if you don't have anything nice or of value.
@moxiemaxie3543
@moxiemaxie3543 Жыл бұрын
And Charlie's commentary on this is 22min. I love long form content
@Crimson_Knight004
@Crimson_Knight004 Жыл бұрын
I’m only at 8:48, but my gosh, this just makes Logan even more sinister. The fact that he publicly showed *expunged* records (and exaggerated the contents) just to defame this man and poke holes in Coffee’s story is just evil. That right there makes me believe Logan isn’t just a bumbling idiot but is scheming and two-faced himself.
@michaelcoward1902
@michaelcoward1902 Жыл бұрын
He arranged a boxing match where his opponant was contractually obliged to not knock him out...I wouldn't put any sort of scumbaggery past a poser like that.
@kstarr3555
@kstarr3555 Жыл бұрын
And the crazy thing is he thinks that makes coffee look bad…when it really makes Logan look like a fucking moron
@schrecksekunde2118
@schrecksekunde2118 Жыл бұрын
yeah I'm speechless that he would go that low like the rat he is. it's stupid and brutal and senseless and disgusting - he could have ruined that man's life for an impotent ad hominem for fucks sake 🙄🤢
@arkan7495
@arkan7495 Жыл бұрын
You are wrong about one thing though. He really is a idiot
@ferrisbueller9991
@ferrisbueller9991 Жыл бұрын
4-faced. Each face cheek and ass cheek is one.
@Megafreakx3
@Megafreakx3 Жыл бұрын
I love how Logan’s best defense can be summarized as “this isn’t a scam because we got scammed before we could scam anyone!”
@smithintern-tainment7868
@smithintern-tainment7868 Жыл бұрын
Man I love all these investigative KZbinrs I’m finding lately. Fascinating how the people they talk about keep getting away with it and the twists/turns these situations take. Also I like to imagine Logan watches these videos like “Why can’t these guys just let me scam people?!”
@swimjaneswim1
@swimjaneswim1 Жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@MelissaM83
@MelissaM83 Жыл бұрын
If it wasn't for those damn meddling kids!!!! 😂
@MelissaM83
@MelissaM83 Жыл бұрын
I totally hear the Scooby-Doo villain who gets caught and says the trademark line lol 😂
@insensitive919
@insensitive919 Жыл бұрын
The thief is.... Logan Paul! Again!
@MudkipPog
@MudkipPog Жыл бұрын
Coffeezilla going on Logan Paul's podcast would be like joining an Xbox party invite from the enemy team just to get yelled over by 5 different kids.
@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641
@ananthropomorphictalkinggo6641 Жыл бұрын
Plus they can edit the footage to make it look like coffee is saying anything they want.
@freesexyew
@freesexyew Жыл бұрын
I would bet anything! That Jake would end up taking a swing at Coffeezilla!
@EatinPaste
@EatinPaste Жыл бұрын
Ah, the good ol' days.
@isitoveryet9525
@isitoveryet9525 Жыл бұрын
The editing is definitely the main concern. I think zilla could easily hold his own, against Mike & Logan lol George is the only one of the 3 that would’ve been genuine & I doubt he would try any sleazy tactics while filming.
@DannyOfOurTime
@DannyOfOurTime Жыл бұрын
If Coffeezilla is allowed to film with his own camera crew and could walk out with the raw footage it could work.
@nes999
@nes999 Жыл бұрын
"This is what I get for relying on..." That was some of the biggest credibility hit for me. Leaders own up. Own your mistakes, own your scams.
@lukethelegendary1999
@lukethelegendary1999 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, no millionaires and up owns up to their mistakes. No company really does. They sue the people that call them out to bully them, just like Jake Paul is doing now.
@The.Neurotic
@The.Neurotic Жыл бұрын
Dude I was surprised when he ousted himself for hiring the guy, only for a second later to blame it on his team. Early on some people in his comment section were putting a timestamp on this as him taking accountability, completely ignoring the next statement, it was bafling
@trevorharley4475
@trevorharley4475 Жыл бұрын
People don’t quit jobs. They quit bosses.
@lyricahm3370
@lyricahm3370 Жыл бұрын
but if he owns up to his scam he wont be able to scam anymore, he wants to still be able to scam the younger people that believe his lies
@murphylhunn
@murphylhunn Жыл бұрын
Well said
@rorybannon
@rorybannon Жыл бұрын
Watching this back with the context of Logan deleting this and dropping the lawsuit threats makes it even better
@keithbishop4941
@keithbishop4941 Жыл бұрын
After conducting multiple financial investigations during my career, Muda is right. You can't say definitively without a deeper dive, but there sure is some next level shady stuff going on and associations in his wallets to Alameda certainly aren't going to help and he is going to bring it all to court on his own, what a treat. As for his dream team of employees, he needs to take it on the chin like a man and CEO if he hired these people. Then to finally say CryptoZoo is coming '23/'24 after it was supposed to already be here in '22 and went silent for over a year? Hello 2023...
@evillecaston
@evillecaston Жыл бұрын
Poor Logan, he was just the leader of the entire operation. How could he possibly know anything at all about his own project and the people working on it? That's impossible!
@Eisenwulf666
@Eisenwulf666 Жыл бұрын
you forget he isn't very bright
@JackNapier420
@JackNapier420 Жыл бұрын
@@Eisenwulf666 hes being sarcastic
@ArDeeMee
@ArDeeMee Жыл бұрын
And everyone bullying him over it smh 😞
@Northlanee
@Northlanee Жыл бұрын
Sbf vibes
@capatasio
@capatasio Жыл бұрын
he'll have time to think on it while mandingo and big joe are taping hes and sam bank's ass in jail hahaha they said the same thing
@AdamKlownzinger
@AdamKlownzinger Жыл бұрын
It’s funny how he tries to say Coffeezilla is a discredited and unserious wanna-be journalist yet Logan says he only learned through Coffeezilla that Ibanez was phony.
@veggsbacon1891
@veggsbacon1891 Жыл бұрын
Hasn't Logan ever heard of "modern geek joUrNaliSTs?" Those "journos" are truly discredited and not serious.
@AdamKlownzinger
@AdamKlownzinger Жыл бұрын
@@veggsbacon1891my point is he’s saying Coffeezilla isn’t credible yet he’s going on info he only first got from Coffeezilla himself. Proving he thinks Coffeezilla isn’t actually untrustworthy
@lawrencelopez9839
@lawrencelopez9839 Жыл бұрын
his defense is basically, "guys I'm not evil, I'm just incompetent and made one bad decision after another"
@padisalasanjaymanoj9737
@padisalasanjaymanoj9737 Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencelopez9839 you mean continuous lapse of judgement
@HearMeLearn
@HearMeLearn Жыл бұрын
@@lawrencelopez9839 ah, the sbf defence I see
@rachelmayes3064
@rachelmayes3064 Жыл бұрын
I've watched 5-6 videos on this subject now, but this is the first one I've seen that actually adds to the discussion rather than just comments on it. Excellent work.
@ianantrim5626
@ianantrim5626 Жыл бұрын
So on the consent thing, since Coffee is in Texas and the recording device was presumably in Texas, Logan would have a huge problem trying to get the case heard in California. Generally the state where the recording device is located prevails.
@sirswagabadha4896
@sirswagabadha4896 Жыл бұрын
I am amazed at how logan manages to simultaneously show his own ignorance/incompetence in not understanding what a manager's job is, while also throwing his manager under the bus for apparently not doing his job. This kind of stuff just writes itself
@isitoveryet9525
@isitoveryet9525 Жыл бұрын
I’m amazed he managed to fool millions into believing he changed & was a “new man” after the forest debacle. All he did was pretend to be oh so woke & enlightened and poof…image was rehabilitated lol His arrogance & ignorance were usually on full display, but bc he used the right buzzwords & took the “popular” side in whatever topic was circling social media at the time, he was deemed to have matured & learned from his mistakes 😂
@TheCarpenterUnion
@TheCarpenterUnion Жыл бұрын
@@isitoveryet9525 A man with something to lose will never improve.
@qualivia
@qualivia Жыл бұрын
"My team just screwed me over stealing millions from fans. Lets sue this reporter who is investigating me." Yeah, priorities Logan
@Spiney09
@Spiney09 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment right here.
@luckgrip252
@luckgrip252 Жыл бұрын
That's true and that doesn't make any sense why would you do that instead of protecting your fan base. I do believe that Logan Paul has been a scum, never have liked him (even as a kid I realized that he seemed suspicious)
@hilmilosnowball7740
@hilmilosnowball7740 Жыл бұрын
@@philxdev it would only be good business if he doesn't actually file a lawsuit, otherwise he is screwed.
@Diamond1234
@Diamond1234 Жыл бұрын
So basically he tried to expose Coffeezilla and Zach for crimes and in doing so, committed crimes himself, including the very crime he accused Coffee of. Amazing.
@hypnocoil3968
@hypnocoil3968 Жыл бұрын
What I really like about your videos is how you start every new thought with the phrase "ladies and gentlemen". More class has never been a thing I've ever looked for on youtube, but apparently it's just one of those things I didn't know I wanted.
@Prifly70
@Prifly70 Жыл бұрын
So Logan says Coffee has it all wrong, but then goes to show that everything Coffee investigated was true? But why?
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you gotta fight fire with fire! But in this case, Logan Paul isn't a smart man and is burning himself alive.
@GekkoOne
@GekkoOne Жыл бұрын
@@deathsyth8888 What a beautiful way to put it. Nice
@DW51380
@DW51380 Жыл бұрын
Logan fought fire with gasoline soaked towels. It wasn’t very effective
@Goozero1
@Goozero1 Жыл бұрын
Logan: "Coffeezilla's work has been said to be 'often speculative' and 'not anchored in truth' Also Logan: - Thanks Coffeezilla 'for calling out the rats that stole from him'. - * Used a clip from Coffeezilla's video supporting the fact that he didn't make money from the project *
@l0ll0able
@l0ll0able Жыл бұрын
The part I love the most, is where Logan shows the message from Dec, 24th, complaining, that coffeezilla hasn't reached out to him earlier, while you can clearly see, that the name of the chat is called "3rd request" 😂
@kstarr3555
@kstarr3555 Жыл бұрын
Also in one breath he says why didn’t you contact me directly?!?! Why would you contact my manager?!?! And also I’m so popular how did you think I’d see your DM. Like what the actual fuck
@HairyJuan
@HairyJuan Жыл бұрын
I think he must be going for the EDP approach where he becomes so hated it turns into a meme
@ihaveunevennostrils9455
@ihaveunevennostrils9455 Жыл бұрын
@@HairyJuan as history tells us january is logan's power play month for that to happen
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 Жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, I didn't even notice that one LMAO
@PacMonster0
@PacMonster0 Жыл бұрын
@@kstarr3555 Thus raising what is even the point of his manager if not to direct attempts to contact Logan like this? Logan can't claim that Coffeezilla didn't attempt to contact him but then act like all the attempts to contact him don't count because he doesn't look at those.
@LilacMonarch
@LilacMonarch Жыл бұрын
Logan: "The blockchain doesn't lie!" You're right, Logan. It doesn't. And the blockchain is making you look very, very bad.
@needlewind9053
@needlewind9053 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like Logan specifically hired the Avengers of shady backgrounds just so he could throw them under the bus should the situation go awry.
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC Жыл бұрын
The dumbest part of all this, for me, is Logan trying to use Z's criminal record - which he shows on screen - as a reason why he can't be trusted. IIRC the charge was for armed robbery and obstructing the legal process - not small crimes, but not exactly huge either. Time was served, and... this happened in 2002. Then later in the video, Logan seems furious that his efforts to rehabilitate his own image are being inconvenienced by Coffee reporting on the things he's actually been doing, rather than the things he'd like people to notice. I don't know whether Z is still a criminal or not, and it doesn't actually matter - his testimonial is either accurate or it isn't, regardless of who he is. But I find the idea that past wrongdoings can and will turn any truth into lies... really ironic coming from the DinkDoink suicide forest man who, despite his insistence at the time, absolutely DOES expect to be forgiven, for everything, even for things that he's literally just done. OK, that's the second dumbest part: the actual dumbest part is Logan trying to claim that Coffee made him out to be the "supervillain" mastermind of the situation. Like, Logan would rather be falsely accused of being as the genius mastermind of a scam, than accept that he was rightly accused of being a relative bitplayer or an incompetent boob.
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
They are not crimes of deception so not relevant. People who get out of jail should be treated as free people, as everyone else. Bonus: Zach is a private person who asked to be anonimous so he both doxxed him and did a private person defamation, because he made negligent misrepresentations that can cause damages to Zach.
@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC Жыл бұрын
@@ayoCC - tbh, since the doc in question looks like it might have been mocked up by Logan rather than something that's publicly available... I legit wonder about the legality of that too. I know that's not a huge deal, but it really points to how much work Logan seems to have been willing to put into destroying himself. I hope Z sues, because unlike anything that's happened to Logan, misrepresenting a contractor you refused to pay as "holding work for ransom" actually *is* defamatory. It does sound like this situation is an absolutely shitshow though. Like, "the receipts" in an employer/employee relationship should not be DMs - I would've been demanding an invoice at the very least, and tbh, given that it's Logan Paul, I would've wanted a pro forma.
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
@@FTZPLTC definitely pretty shady. Taking on a client for 50k a week without contract Even if as a Public Person there's a reasonable expectation to act in his own interest
@IntergalacticSpaceKitten
@IntergalacticSpaceKitten Жыл бұрын
Yup. It's that "whataboutism" kind of defense. He's pointing to his criminal record as a "well what about this..." thing, just to change topic and deflect from his own heat.
@andrewmartin7165
@andrewmartin7165 Жыл бұрын
Jee wiz! That’s a long comment!
@deathsyth8888
@deathsyth8888 Жыл бұрын
"I wasn't involved in a scam. I just partook in a series of actions to artificially inflate assets and services that I knew had little to no value and threw multiple transactions with other individuals marketed and sold said assets/services to the public through my own personal endorsement and influence while obsconding with ill gained profits after selling my shares of the operation at its zenith and left everyone else with worthless digital junk. See, that's totally not a scam." - Logan Paul
@jarjarbinks5255
@jarjarbinks5255 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like something I'd hear in a skit from oversimplifed history
@dopesickdog
@dopesickdog Жыл бұрын
thing is he never actually did sell off his Zoo token, it was tanked before he had the chance, and he's clinging to that technicality while blatantly ignoring all the real evidence of his conspiring to commit fraud on his fans.
@socksman9968
@socksman9968 Жыл бұрын
@@dopesickdog there’s also the other money from the egg nfts that coffezilla said made more than a million but because the money was sent to a coin based address there’s no way to know who exactly received that money so it’s entirely possible Logan did make some cheese off zoo
@endlessstrata6988
@endlessstrata6988 Жыл бұрын
@@dopesickdog True. He got scammed before he had the opportunity to scam his usual marks. Entertaining to say the least.
@ardantop132na6
@ardantop132na6 Жыл бұрын
@@endlessstrata6988 No honour among thieves.
@RaptorFaceRumble
@RaptorFaceRumble Жыл бұрын
He took his video down and apparently called Coffee to apologise. Mans digging himself a massive hole.
@elhazthorn918
@elhazthorn918 Жыл бұрын
He should get in that 6 foot hole and fill it in.
@elhazthorn918
@elhazthorn918 Жыл бұрын
He should get in that 6 foot hole and fill it in.
@franklinturtleton6525
@franklinturtleton6525 Жыл бұрын
One thing on the wiretap/two party consent laws is that coffeezilla specifically states at the beginning of the call that he was "calling for comment" stating who he was and why he was calling. Jeff understood that he was talking to a journalist about a story, he needed to take consent away if he didn't want his responses published.
@LewdestLiz
@LewdestLiz Жыл бұрын
Logan: Knowingly has someone who is a criminal(?) on their team. Also Logan: *How could this be my fault?*
@returded-dipstick8209
@returded-dipstick8209 Жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@scac94
@scac94 Жыл бұрын
"Yeah I work with criminals! What now mr. Internet journalist? Bet you look pretty dumb huh?" Like, does he even hear himself? Lol
@returded-dipstick8209
@returded-dipstick8209 Жыл бұрын
@Super Blast Bros. "yea I just trust my safe that I barely even looked into to vet all the people that will do the real work around here that sounds better then me know the guys and having a good time. They will all believe this and love there good old Logan Paul" like come on bro, take the L and move on you'll get out on bail unless the IRS gets your ass.
@jaggerknife
@jaggerknife Жыл бұрын
isnt Logan also a criminal. didnt he beat up a girl while high on drugs?
@ummerfarooq5383
@ummerfarooq5383 Жыл бұрын
@Super Blast Bros. he does not actually have the mental capacity. I don't know why people don't understand this.
@rc8s
@rc8s Жыл бұрын
I’ve made a severe and continuous lapse in my judgment, and I don’t expect to be forgiven. I’m simply here to apologize. What we came across that day in the woods was obviously unplanned. The reactions you saw on tape were raw; they were unfiltered. None of us knew how to react or how to feel. I should have never posted the video. I should have put the cameras down and stopped recording what we were going through. There's a lot of things I should have done differently, but I didn't. And for that, from the bottom of my heart, I am sorry. I want to apologize to the Internet. I want to apologize to anyone who has seen the video. I want to apologize to anyone who has been affected or touched by mental illness or depression or suicide. But most importantly, I want to apologize to the victim and his family. For my fans who are defending my actions, please don't. I don’t deserve to be defended. The goal with my content is always to entertain; to push the boundaries, to be all-inclusive. In the world I live in, I share almost everything I do. The intent is never to be heartless, cruel, or malicious. Like I said-I made a huge mistake. I don’t expect to be forgiven, I’m just here to apologize. I'm ashamed of myself. I’m disappointed in myself. And I promise to be better. I will be better. Thank you.
@Bike_Chain
@Bike_Chain Жыл бұрын
Man has this on deck
@TheBlackSpartan103
@TheBlackSpartan103 Жыл бұрын
@@Bike_Chain like a damn Yu Gi Oh card
@siennad587
@siennad587 Жыл бұрын
Logan is a total sociop@th
@MedroffYT
@MedroffYT Жыл бұрын
Damn this was so good. I actually forgive you.
@adityamaurya9851
@adityamaurya9851 Жыл бұрын
haha we got the logan paul copy pasta 🤣
@slip899
@slip899 Жыл бұрын
I liked the bit where Logan called out the cryptozoo investor for getting his kids to invest in "crypto" as if he was some kind of monsterous child abuser when Logan literally marketed CryptoZoo as a fun game for kids xD
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate your takes. I haven’t seen anyone else talk about the felony allegations against the dev as either doxxing or defamation, with no provable evidence publicly available.
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 Жыл бұрын
While it is technically "doxxing" it isn't defamation or illegal doxxing (which is what doxxing usually refers to). It is super scummy but not illegal.
@wolfetteplays8894
@wolfetteplays8894 Жыл бұрын
@@tinkerer3399 it should be
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 Жыл бұрын
@Wolfette Plays Eh, I'd say not. And I don't quite think you've thought through the repercussions of making it illegal. Let's look at it this way. Suppose I hold up a convenience store to feed my starving kid. It makes it into the local news, my family makes posts on Facebook, and Twitter throws the case around because their is something funny about it (lets suppose I used a Batman nerf gun). Now I serve my time and when I'm released the judge goes "You know what? You were trying to feed your kid, you have no priors, and you've been a model prisoner. We're gonna expunge your record so you don't have this hanging over your head." Does that mean the newspaper have to go back and censor their articles? Do my family members have to go back and delete their posts? Can the guy I held up never talk about it again? It would be ridiculous. So the two options are either they make arrest records completely confidential (VERY dangerous, you want to know what the cops are up to) or they engage in massive censorship on every expunged case.
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
@@tinkerer3399 Muta states the guy says he didn’t rob a liquor store. Claiming he did, as a fact, when we cannot prove that, would be defamation. I don’t believe an expunged conviction would change that; wrongful convictions happen. In a civil trial, Logan would have to prove that the guy did, indeed, rob a liquor store 20 years ago.
@tinkerer3399
@tinkerer3399 Жыл бұрын
@Anna Victrix Not quite. Or at least very probably not. There are a ton of laws that factor into this such as the law of first publication. This is a law that states that when something is first published that is the state of the world that applies to that publication. So let's say that someone says that Logan Paul has a brain tumor and is gonna perish in a year and this is untrue. This could adversely affect his business deals and is defamation. And then a month later Logan Paul develops a brain tumor and is gonna die within a year. He could still sue them for defamation (well before he dies he could) because even though the article is now true it was untrue at the time of publication. That is how these places operate. Even though the record is now sealed and unavailable it was public information at the time that they "published" it. And it is provable, there are multiple publications that the can check with. They don't need the official records. There is a bunch of other stuff that factors into it but basically that is the gist. There are a couple of places that have laws that supercede this however they are a rare minority.
@runaruinous
@runaruinous Жыл бұрын
Logan seems to be another that falls into the "Coffee did great work till he came after me" cycle some of these people love to be in.
@tillerphil4769
@tillerphil4769 Жыл бұрын
Happens every time they don't apologize Coffeezilla is the grim reaper of KZbin
@scruffymakaveli6870
@scruffymakaveli6870 Жыл бұрын
This situation is quite peculiar. A scammer tried to scam honest people with the help of other scammers. Then, those other scammers ended up scamming him. Coffee initiated the call so Texas law should take priority over California. Also, sometimes leaking calls for the sake of public interest can be used as a good defence. Logan tried to manipulate the market, got caught and now is trying to make coffee look bad. Unfortunately, his plan severely back-fired.
@chobitsotaku5613
@chobitsotaku5613 Жыл бұрын
And that's why Logan deleted his video on Coffeezilla and also apologized, because had the trial happened everyone (even more people than now) would find that out, even his so called "fans" that just don't have the braincells or too much pride to admit they're supporting a scamming clown. What a one man clown show.
@zeke8989
@zeke8989 Жыл бұрын
Couldn’t have said it any better and Logan’s defense was pretty much “ I didn’t make any money off my scam so it wasn’t a scam”
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
It's a misdemeanor at most. It's also a distraction and is a call to authority when it doesn't, ducking, matter. We can clearly see that this is in Public interest and didn't do any damage. Eavesdropping laws will protect you if you experience damages because of it
@airl10
@airl10 Жыл бұрын
Just as a note, the call originating from Texas doesn't mean he isn't criminally liable. He could be charged in the state of California, but there is a bunch of stuff he may have done regarding consent and expectation of privacy that means he did nothing illegal. Moreover, the whole point is moot since no one will press charges against him.
@Tzushi1
@Tzushi1 Жыл бұрын
So what confuses me is that he is choosing to sue Coffeezilla rather than Eddie Ibanez and Cryptoking. They actually stole money and it's easy to prove. I watched a video a day or two ago of a lawyer reacting to this situation and he mentioned something very interesting: In that lawyer's experience, whenever he sees this he always assumes that those parties are 'still in bed' together.
@farts375
@farts375 Жыл бұрын
what's weird was when Logan shows the victim saying that's Emilio and was supposedly responsible to the crypto rug pulls. I couldn't even find that person's name at all and when I did a reverse google search the only thing that pops up was an article that doesn't even link to the person's name or any sort of social medias. So how did Logan manage to find this person's name and if he was supposedly responsible to two rug pulls?
@yepyep2762
@yepyep2762 Жыл бұрын
Well apparently Logan can do the background check on the developer to throw him under the bus but not when he hired him to make his game
@Pylen
@Pylen Жыл бұрын
Imagine being his editor through this, sweatin buckets if I had to guess.😂
@TryZaWarudo
@TryZaWarudo Жыл бұрын
Man hayden is one of the best editors as well. I hope this means he can finally disassociate himself from logan.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 Жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna take the money and run. Loyalty is a meme."
@yulia2473
@yulia2473 Жыл бұрын
Bucket? More like a pool
@SecondBestArtMuseum
@SecondBestArtMuseum Жыл бұрын
I wanna know what the fuck his cameraman was thinking with their shorty zooms and pull outs.
@AspiringDevil
@AspiringDevil Жыл бұрын
No I imagine he's a jaded man with bags under his eyes & surrounded by empty coffee cups & a mountain of half smoked cigarettes.
@jolenejoleeene
@jolenejoleeene Жыл бұрын
I love how Coffeezilla isn't responding to all this nonsense. His videos still stand and say all he needs to.
@bryce1014
@bryce1014 Жыл бұрын
He was going to respond tho
@kittinplus4
@kittinplus4 Жыл бұрын
did Logan sue those crooks he teamed up with, before he threatened to sue Coffee? No. That's all we need to know about him.
@ChamChamRealSmooth
@ChamChamRealSmooth Жыл бұрын
No, it's all okay, guys. He just made a severe and continous lapse in his judgement.
@ItsGoatSeason
@ItsGoatSeason Жыл бұрын
A continuous lapse that still persists to this day.
@flarestorm9417
@flarestorm9417 Жыл бұрын
"I may have gone too far in a few places" - Logan Paul after scamming his middle and lower class fans out of their money.
@ardantop132na6
@ardantop132na6 Жыл бұрын
@@flarestorm9417 Damn, I feel old. He never learn from the suicide forest, didn't he?
@wormhole91
@wormhole91 Жыл бұрын
continuous
@LonleyCopy
@LonleyCopy Жыл бұрын
Whilst getting paid millions...bad judgement eh?
@CriIp
@CriIp Жыл бұрын
I would be scared to go on the podcast with Logan in person, he looks so angry and he clearly doesn’t see how bad he’s looking.
@tugzzcouncil485
@tugzzcouncil485 Жыл бұрын
he a bully
@KermitOfWar
@KermitOfWar Жыл бұрын
And I thought Jake was the sociopath of the pair. 🤣
@ayoCC
@ayoCC Жыл бұрын
@@KermitOfWar they were raised by a family of sociopathy pushers
@technolegends306
@technolegends306 Жыл бұрын
@@KermitOfWar Apple doesnt fall far from the tree
@phxfarmer4844
@phxfarmer4844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing extra research and not just reaction like everyone else
@ISurfHawaii
@ISurfHawaii Жыл бұрын
The bit of the statute pertaining to reasonable expectation of privacy is worth mentioning too. A pretty strong argument could be made that a journalist speaking to someone while investigating a company that person is involved in would not create that expectation.
@kartgal
@kartgal Жыл бұрын
All he had to do was acknowledge the concerns. And show some remorse for addressing it earlier. That’s like literally it.
@ISIIN15
@ISIIN15 Жыл бұрын
He could've come out and said I hired the wrong people, I wanted to build something legit and we got rug pulled in the end. I kept the coin because I will rebuild this program and get better people on it and vet them more. And most people would be like ok
@porkupineexe6862
@porkupineexe6862 Жыл бұрын
Don’t you think, that like not doing a rug pull would be the better option? You know like: you don’t have to apologize to people if you don’t purposely do things you might have to apologize for. Like a rug pull scam
@theannualantagonist5930
@theannualantagonist5930 Жыл бұрын
@@ISIIN15 lol, fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice well... Shame on me. No one is gonna make a fool of themselves twice
@moxiemaxie3543
@moxiemaxie3543 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and people would still find a way to be upset
@Retr0_Blues
@Retr0_Blues Жыл бұрын
@@ISIIN15 but his intent was to just make something with hype to sell to billionaire investors ? He didn't even have a product and was already discussing how to manipulate the market of its tokens with minimal damage . He's not sorry for what he did he's sorry he got scammed and then exposed .
@attache675
@attache675 Жыл бұрын
Logan is totally in character. Narcissistic attitude, finger pointing, taking ZERO blame or accountability, and in fact possibly making himself looking even more incompetent (I don’t even know how that’s possible). Every KZbinr unanimously disagrees with Logan and he’s going to protect his hill alone. Even George called him out on it and he just starts acting like such a baby.
@paintedsmile5282
@paintedsmile5282 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that when it comes to the 1 party VS 2 party consent states, the "general rule of thumb" is that the law defaults to the state in which the recording took place. Or the argument can also be made that federal law, which is 1 party consent, is the default.
@masterofreality230
@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын
Funny that this is what finally made Logan mention the project after all of this time lol
@inoob26
@inoob26 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a lawyer who gets assigned to work for Logan and then realizing "yep, this do be my first case of the year"
@gachagamer536
@gachagamer536 Жыл бұрын
Law firm who put him there be laughing at him
@Person-tz1tk
@Person-tz1tk Жыл бұрын
"okay lets what case we hav- oh no"
@mix1ro
@mix1ro Жыл бұрын
you should do more of these types of videos. they are really fun to watch
@jaydendonkey2075
@jaydendonkey2075 Жыл бұрын
Love this video, brings up everything I have had issues with in Logan Paul's response. You earned a sub. And hopefully he hears our voice through yours
@strangerofthe2067
@strangerofthe2067 Жыл бұрын
I have watched quite a few people’s reactions to Logan’s response videos but this is by far the most thorough breakdown of everything and very well put together, AS USUAL!
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
He always picks up on details that others miss!
@TryZaWarudo
@TryZaWarudo Жыл бұрын
Damn, this feels like an appetizer video, until we get the main course video to Coffeezilla’s eventual response. Thanks for whetting my appetite for that muta!
@mewnani
@mewnani Жыл бұрын
He's gonna get the smackdown for this, I just know it.
@grimrapper5202
@grimrapper5202 Жыл бұрын
*muta
@nom6758
@nom6758 Жыл бұрын
muda means useless 😦
@Ehh.....
@Ehh..... Жыл бұрын
He probably wont be able to say much at least right now if it really is in the legal realm. He might drop a update letting us know what he's gonna do after communicating with his legal team though.
@Skegfromcraigslist
@Skegfromcraigslist Жыл бұрын
Yeah wet it
@adamsud9854
@adamsud9854 Жыл бұрын
Love the channel Mutahar, Thanks again for all the hard work.
@ApexSpin
@ApexSpin Жыл бұрын
Deus Ex dock in the back on screen made me squeal with nostalgia! "Paul, I thought you were in Hong Kong" - forever burned into my grey matter
@TheLegendLeviathan
@TheLegendLeviathan Жыл бұрын
I love this take. I subscribed cause of it. But the thing that bothers me the most is very few people are pointing out the fact that Logan marketed this game as being the introduction to crypto for kids. And he tries to throw Emilio under the bus for having his kids invest in it.
@DjDmt
@DjDmt Жыл бұрын
Gaslighting at its best
@fangal12
@fangal12 Жыл бұрын
The whole video was a textbook example of projection. From questioning Coffee's integrity for not vetting his sources to referring to bad actors in crypto after he participated in dink doink and this debacle. It's like he's talking about himself the entire time 😂
@ItsGoatSeason
@ItsGoatSeason Жыл бұрын
"A Fool and his money are soon parted."
@Young_buck2423
@Young_buck2423 Жыл бұрын
Lol coffee and muta are friends lol there goats fr they exposed faze clan then coffee exposed faze there legit amazing people
@ArDeeMee
@ArDeeMee Жыл бұрын
@@ItsGoatSeason Stop talking about yourself, this is serious! 😂
@khaihaziq8479
@khaihaziq8479 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the developer was that they weren't getting paid. This was what coffe focus on in his video not the developer's themselve. It doesn't help the fact that coffe said another developer was bought on to fix crytozoo after lunch but quit months later due to the fact that once again, they weren't getting paid.
@fuucaran
@fuucaran Жыл бұрын
Are you criticising or defending coffee? I'm not the brightest so I don't understand what you mean by this 😂
@WildcatsOHS
@WildcatsOHS Жыл бұрын
@@fuucaran he is defending coffee by saying that the developers themselves are not the main point, but the fact that, they aren’t getting paid
@fart63
@fart63 Жыл бұрын
Exactly even if the dude was a criminal he still did a job for you, you still have to pay him even if he previously committed a crime lmao
@RipperYouTubeOfficial
@RipperYouTubeOfficial Жыл бұрын
Great video. Just an FYI, Logan can't sue Coffeezilla because CZ recorded a phone call with another person. Jeff could probably file a civil complaint, but it would get dismissed before it goes anywhere.
@NadDew
@NadDew Жыл бұрын
Asmongold made a hilarious analogy for cryptozoo team he called them the Suicide Squad of the crypto world and the "crypto king" is the Joker 😂😂
@YourLocalAverageSquidMan
@YourLocalAverageSquidMan Жыл бұрын
The whole response video is basically just Logan blaming everybody but himself for the scam and not taking responsibility for hiring literal criminals for the crypto scam he put out.
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 Жыл бұрын
and that LP knew it going in, since those records were later expunged, he kept them for future use
@SoundBubble
@SoundBubble Жыл бұрын
I always love that you go the extra mile on these things. Even if everything he said was true, it was already an awful response, effectively just deflecting all guilt and trying to discredit Coffeezilla. But knowing that even the few snippets of “facts” he brought up are questionable at best, it makes everything even worse somehow.
@stallord8
@stallord8 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't help any facts that were solid were literally taken from coffezilla and "his former partners in crime"
@ardantop132na6
@ardantop132na6 Жыл бұрын
@@stallord8 In other words, copying someone else homeworks then lying about them copying your homeworks.
@Escalusfr
@Escalusfr Жыл бұрын
Bruh your miniature is just perfect
@ITSSIRWAN86
@ITSSIRWAN86 Жыл бұрын
thumbnail is so serious man 😂🔥
@pfitz9346
@pfitz9346 Жыл бұрын
I laughed at "crypto Keemstar." Then I realized there's no way he wrote that or a single word he said in the whole apology video himself. The speech is clearly written by a lawyer and his pr team and the delivery makes that obvious (ironic given his claim to fame is acting). I wound not be surprised in the slightest if his team literally paid a writer to write jokes tailored specifically to the speech.
@warren_r
@warren_r Жыл бұрын
If this script really was written by a lawyer as you suggest, then that lawyer is about as good quality as all the low-quality sycophants, scammers, criminals, and hangers-on that Logan surrounds himself with.
@WinterReflections
@WinterReflections Жыл бұрын
I think the idea a lawyer "wrote his script" couldn't be further from the truth. The fact the video was made at all is wildly inadvisable. I think he was told not to do it, and Logan was too stubborn and arrogant and thought this would sway people. What he says doesn't seem carefully planned at all, and I think could open him up to even more scrutiny in a court setting. Really, really don't think he was advised to say any of that.
@kuraiaku2997
@kuraiaku2997 Жыл бұрын
No lawyer wanted their client to put more things to scrutinize by the public unless the lawyer is trying to screw him lol.
@enthiegavoir5955
@enthiegavoir5955 Жыл бұрын
From the law firm of Dumb and Dumber
@BeersAndBeatsPDX
@BeersAndBeatsPDX Жыл бұрын
There is absolutely no way anything that he says was written or approved by any legal or pr team.
@07kamichamakarin
@07kamichamakarin Жыл бұрын
So... not only did Logan showed off how he 'knows' of the criminals but he also violated Data Privacy Act too???
@chinghamburger2200
@chinghamburger2200 Жыл бұрын
What do you expect? He is pure scum. So i his brother, both him and his brother deserve to be 6ft under rotting in the ground
@DeutschesSoldat1916
@DeutschesSoldat1916 Жыл бұрын
“Allegedly” is a pretty advanced word for Logan
@cockatoo010
@cockatoo010 Жыл бұрын
The 2 party consent thing is what allows call centers to record all calls. That's what the "this call may be recorded for quality and training purposes" does. By continuing the call it's assumed that the customer consents to be recorded
@Bike_Chain
@Bike_Chain Жыл бұрын
truly one of your best thumbnails. I'm glad muta has embraced being a meme
@Bike_Chain
@Bike_Chain Жыл бұрын
@YeaMan yeah cause my initial comment was totally about music
@jairozamora608
@jairozamora608 Жыл бұрын
@@Bike_Chainthats a bot lol, you can see it on other comments as well
@Bike_Chain
@Bike_Chain Жыл бұрын
@@jairozamora608 I know, I was making fun of the absurdity of the bot algorithm thinking my comment was about music.
@keyboardcommando7493
@keyboardcommando7493 Жыл бұрын
Ironically, Logan uses Coffees own research to try to besmirch him... we live in odd times
@Theworldisabeautifulplaceyakno
@Theworldisabeautifulplaceyakno Жыл бұрын
I'm glad you cleaned your desk space. Always gave me anxiety lol
@Joeyisagonnawin
@Joeyisagonnawin 2 ай бұрын
Still love coming back and hearing the thud himself say the equivalent of, "Hey guys, Coffezilla is not a reliable reporter. He failed to mention that I hired a former criminal."
@techknight3753
@techknight3753 Жыл бұрын
My theory? Logan specifically hired "bad actors" thinking that would somehow absolve him of the responsibility when shit hit the fan. Sounds almost dumb enough to match his line of thinking
@GPS08
@GPS08 Жыл бұрын
I think Logan knew their background and it is precisely because of their background in scamming that he hired them. He tried to manipulate the market with a stealth launch, and then got pissed when he found out someone was buying the discounted tokens that weren't in their closed circle, devaluating their token. Logan was pissed about it, which shows that he was only doing it for monetary gain.
@detailmetail8622
@detailmetail8622 Жыл бұрын
@@GPS08 maybe it was pre planned and cryptoking was his fall guy. cryptoking gave him a big cut out of what was stolen in cash
@trener7763
@trener7763 Жыл бұрын
Same thoughts. He may have purposefully not sold to use that as a defense while he gets a share from the others. The “bad actors” may have been hired for him to use them as a cushion to fall back on incase he gets exposed. Maybe even the “issues” they faced with the project may have been faked as a way to explain the delay.
@dallassegno
@dallassegno Жыл бұрын
coffee explicitly describes the moments when he is talking off record. this means he's paying attention to consent
@bung9094
@bung9094 Жыл бұрын
This is the best youtube thumbnail i have ever seen in my life.
@Sabagegah
@Sabagegah Жыл бұрын
Woah that was a Metal Gear Rising Revengeance reference.
@FireheartYGraystripe
@FireheartYGraystripe Жыл бұрын
9:45 Didn't Logan say he's suing Coffee for recording his manager without consent? Did Logan get Zach Kelling's consent before posting this sound clip in his video?
@dimadobrik4516
@dimadobrik4516 Жыл бұрын
I heard you don't have to have consent when recording in Texas, from where Coffee apparently recorded. So that should go just out of the window
@FireheartYGraystripe
@FireheartYGraystripe Жыл бұрын
@@dimadobrik4516 that was irrelvant to the point I was trying to make, but yes I heard that too. It makes it even funnier and more ironic.
@misterinvalid6535
@misterinvalid6535 Жыл бұрын
Logan is asserting that the recording between Coffezilla and his manager was recorded without the manager’s consent and then posted, which may or may not be illegal. The big point there is that it might have been recorded illegally by someone in the conversation, not that it was posted online. The posting thing only has relevance if it was in fact recorded illegally. It’s made clear in Coffezilla’s video that the recording of Z was made with the consent of both parties, so Logan taking and using that particular audio clip isn’t problematic or a double standard, at least in regards to wiretapping laws.
@dragoneer2453
@dragoneer2453 Жыл бұрын
On the contacting Logan bit, if we reasonably assume that Coffee did contact the manager for comment/interview (it's almost like we have a phone call with the manager), that means one of two scenarios probably played out: either the manager DIDN'T tell Logan about how Coffee was trying to get in touch, or he DID and Logan decided to not address it one way or another. One adds another person to the "why tf did you hire this person" pile, the other is a great example of "ounce of prevention, pound of cure". Both go to show that Logan is not to be trusted.
@revilo9224
@revilo9224 Жыл бұрын
Calling someone and recording it is one side ocnsent in texas(where Coffeezilla and Logans manager reside) if coffeezilla called Jeff and told him why he calledh im and jeff agreed to it its already legal lol
@toukoenriaze9870
@toukoenriaze9870 Жыл бұрын
@@revilo9224 they werent talking about if its legal or not ... they were talking about assuming it was (which it was legal) why didnt jeff tell logan, and if he did why didnt logan act on it and is acting innocent now
@GekkoOne
@GekkoOne Жыл бұрын
Didn't Logan preemptively block Coffeezilla, which was why he had to go through his manager?
@kstarr3555
@kstarr3555 Жыл бұрын
Also in one breath he says why didn’t you contact me directly?!?! Why would you contact my manager?!?! And also I’m so popular how did you think I’d see your DM. Like what the actual fuck
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
It also shows me how absolutely impossible it must be to deal with him. He’s one of those people who throws out contradictory rationale for whatever blame he’s trying to deflect in the moment. You reached out to his manager? Well you should have reached out to him. Oh, you did reach out to him? Well, he says, you can’t expect him to read every DM! Even tho yeah, that’s why you reached out to his manager. But no! You’re a supposed to reach out to him directly! Even tho he can’t be expected to read every DM. Over and over in circles until you just give up and let it go.
@zachgaines8349
@zachgaines8349 Жыл бұрын
Not a lawyer here My understanding is that since coffee was in Texas, california's wiretapping law is irrelevant due to some sort of federal interstate law enforcement agreement.
@MeatwadSmoking
@MeatwadSmoking Жыл бұрын
One of my grandfathers immigrated from Scotland, so the first time I saw an ad for established titles I knew it was BS. What gave it away for me was the lord/lady thing. As well as the fact that eventually they’d run out of square feet and have to resell the same square foot to someone else, since there’s no way to tell. The way I grew up I can sniff out a scam. That being said. I don’t expect others to have the same knowledge I do. Such as recognizing the lord/lady thing. While I was a bit surprised that you didn’t spot it as a scam, because I know you’re a smart man, you did the right thing once you found out. You made a mistake and corrected it. Folks make mistakes. That’s all established titles was . It was a mistake, which we all make mistakes. I don’t see any reason to hold it against you, especially when you did the right thing once realizing it. Honestly the way they market it, I’m not surprised the sponsorship caught on, and most folks promoting it were probably fooled just like the rest of the internet. Logan Paul does this shit on purpose. There absolutely is a massive difference between making a mistake and the sinful shenanigans Logan indulges in. Don’t worry so much about it, your mistake is forgiven. At least by your loyal fan base, myself included. ❤
@Lybrel
@Lybrel Жыл бұрын
STILL talking about that? And you're flexing about Scottish grandparents? Mom bought me a $5 "certificate" to own a piece of the Moon to go with the Scholastic astronomy book. Even then I knew I was just buying cool paper. Bought a high school date a certificate for a star. Well worth it for $20. And way before that Chinese company did it, I bought a Scottish title for $20, which annoyed the DMV so much I actually have Lord on my free ID card. So I'm proof you can pay for "Lord/Lady" on government ID. That joke is not a scam. Not only because you have room temperature IQ to believe it, but it actually works. To be fair, this was when the DMV had to deal with hijabs/nikabs/burkas for headshots so they just made me a Lord 🤣
@commiehunter733
@commiehunter733 Жыл бұрын
I own a star and get to name.... its name changes depending on my mood
@GoatIsLife
@GoatIsLife Жыл бұрын
I love how many things Logan indirectly or unintentionally throws Jeff under the bus for. Crappy project staffing, talking to people he shouldn't be, not communicating with his client, ect. If his manager Jeff is really such a screw-up that he single-handedly killed both the project and Logan's reputation, why is he still employed? And why is Logan going to such great lengths to paint all of Jeff's screw-ups as the fault of other people? Of course it's obvious that the real reason is they were both in on all of it.
@SaintBuick
@SaintBuick Жыл бұрын
On the Impaulsive podcast they throw Jeff off for reacting to Mike comparing Logan to Germany in WWII. It's around the 34 minute mark on the podcast.
@kobisjeruk
@kobisjeruk Жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Jeff doesnt exist. It was Logan all along. The person known as 'Jeff' is a literal bad actor.
@YudA295
@YudA295 Жыл бұрын
Jeff got dirt on logan lol
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
Why is Jeff still employed? Well, look at what a good fall guy he makes for Logan’s negligence. He’s like a paid scapegoat.
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 Жыл бұрын
Coffee wasn't looking to expose peoples backgrounds, he was getting testimony from people on the project while Logan refused to speak up. His story fits together while Logan still wants to sell the idea his game is coming out at some point with these loons running it.
@songohan3321
@songohan3321 Жыл бұрын
Well, Logan Paul just opened himself up to a huge lawsuit.
@kstarr3555
@kstarr3555 Жыл бұрын
Logan’s mad he interviews criminals as if that’s not all he had to interview on the team since Logan only hired criminals 😂😂😂
@annavictrix
@annavictrix Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Not to mention, a 20 yo robbery charge when someone was 19 (and probably coming out of a bad home situation) has nothing to do with the dev not handing over his own code when he wasn’t paid.
@EpicGamer-fl7fn
@EpicGamer-fl7fn Жыл бұрын
it does also feel like a petty mentality to have. Like for contrast what if Hitler would stand in front of you right now and say "hey guys, 2+2 = 4" would you disagree with him just because he's Hitler? obviously not. But considering how Logan tries to make all these people associated with Coffee look like criminals that should "totally not be trusted" just because they robbed a store 22 years ago, i feel like Logan would definetly disagree and even try to argue that 2+2 isnt 4.
@Petrico94
@Petrico94 Жыл бұрын
@@EpicGamer-fl7fn If Hitler said 2+2=4 I'd have to agree with him, if Kanye West said 2+2=4 I'd probably want to do the math myself to be safe. More on point, Ya just because they were criminals doesn't make their testament invalid when it goes along with the facts like the game does not work at this time, there are texts implying everyone was planning this rug pull at some point but Logan himself never pushed it forward, or the fact Logan had a previous crypto project that was a scam, why should we trust the word of Logan if we know he's a con-artist, Mr. Paul? You're allowed to doubt these people for being involved with scams, but they're also not losing anything and saw their gains disappear while working for Logan so they probably want to voice what happened, or they could lie and that gets judged by other people's testimony and what we know has happened.
@brianoconnor9105
@brianoconnor9105 Жыл бұрын
I feel like he hired these people so that when shit hits the fan he has someone to blame so he doesn’t look bad.
@rosemarypec158
@rosemarypec158 Жыл бұрын
I just found your video for the first time thank you for explaining this so throughly
@suppacoo7268
@suppacoo7268 Жыл бұрын
I've given better explanations than Logan Paul as a kid for when I TOTALLY didn't eat an entire bag of shredded cheese at 3 AM while mid-fistful of cheddar.
@TheBlackSpartan103
@TheBlackSpartan103 Жыл бұрын
No shame in cheese
@AdamKlownzinger
@AdamKlownzinger Жыл бұрын
W snack
@luislebronaponte2737
@luislebronaponte2737 Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was your pet/brother/sister/relative/etc. 👍🏻
@suppacoo7268
@suppacoo7268 Жыл бұрын
@@luislebronaponte2737 Nothing like a 7 y/o barbecuing their sibling. Of course, you caught me!
@gamingmoyai3950
@gamingmoyai3950 Жыл бұрын
Wait, other people do that? I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE???
@thecombarianempire979
@thecombarianempire979 Жыл бұрын
He put about as much effort into this "apology" as a little kid screaming he's sorry but also the sibling threw the first punch and he didn't do anything wrong.
@Goldenduck409
@Goldenduck409 Жыл бұрын
better way to say it he is putting as much effort as his talent which is very little
@Goldenduck409
@Goldenduck409 Жыл бұрын
@@yeaman3214 Dumb bots
@j100j
@j100j Жыл бұрын
@@Goldenduck409 Don't respond to bots it makes them more credible in youtube's eyes as if they are in a conversation or asking a question.
@rebeccamcguire2798
@rebeccamcguire2798 Жыл бұрын
I hope ppl in this case are prosecuted….I watched coffee this morning and did my own diging and this is such a sad situation…I hope this scam is the final straw that puts a nail in Logan’s coffin and ends his rain of scams … this was one of the better put together videos I’ve watched and appreciated the break down of Logan’s half asses adressing of these situations
@Pundae
@Pundae 2 ай бұрын
7:28 Hearing this portion is actually crazy. No one I've seen covering this has mentioned the crimes he committed were from 20 years ago. Logan talks about how it feels to try and be a better person and make up for his mistakes while putting someone else's down in the same fucking breath: 41:58
@jaimegarcia767
@jaimegarcia767 Жыл бұрын
As someone who has 7 felonies it sucks to see that people will still expose you on your past even though you have changed.
@sniperfi4532
@sniperfi4532 Жыл бұрын
Bringing up old mates felony from 2002 is a huge stretch. Especially since it was robbery and not financial/money fraud it’s even more of a stretch.
@dionstewart7394
@dionstewart7394 Жыл бұрын
In all fairness, these guys brought this on themselves. This isn't happening just to dig up people's past. These guys hurt a lot of people, if their records are looked through, that's getting off light after robbing these folks. I hope you're making great strides my friend!!
@jaimegarcia767
@jaimegarcia767 Жыл бұрын
@@dionstewart7394 haven't been to cook county jail since 2020, finished probation a month early September 2022, and I work full time 😊 I can lay my head at night knowing well I'm not going back to my old life 😁 Edit: haven't
@dionstewart7394
@dionstewart7394 Жыл бұрын
@@jaimegarcia767 Keep on keeping on friend. Shoot for the mf stars.
@nom6758
@nom6758 Жыл бұрын
@@jaimegarcia767 Gigachad alert
@Sneakythepanda
@Sneakythepanda Жыл бұрын
Unironically if Logan came out with a revised copy pasta of "I've made a severe lapse in judgement" again, like we know the guy will do and say anything. At least doubling down would've at least been funny, but nope it seems Logan really wants to get down with Jake to see which is the stupider Paul
@bbk9787
@bbk9787 Жыл бұрын
They have always been tied
@VileStorms
@VileStorms Жыл бұрын
It depends on the state of the resident, so seeing how he lived in Texas. It was 100% legal. At most California could technically put a warrant out for him, but they won't over something so mundane, plus no state would be willing to pay for his transport from Texas or even Oregon for that matter. Most states won't even pay for transportation over unpaid parking tickets.
@kwtsospapavrousis
@kwtsospapavrousis Жыл бұрын
Im DEAD LMAO at 4:30 the way of moving his eyebrows 😂😂
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