Logger Said This Was Trash, Lets Prove Him Wrong

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Out of the Woods

Out of the Woods

Күн бұрын

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@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Maple Bowl Blanks: www.outofthewoodsforestry.com/product-page/butternut-bowl-blank
@philliprutherford6193
@philliprutherford6193 Ай бұрын
Would like to see some walnut bowl blanks, I turn big bowls up to 16" x 16" x 8"
@FRBPturning
@FRBPturning Ай бұрын
I would also like some walnut!
@peacepeople9895
@peacepeople9895 Ай бұрын
Just so you're aware, a large priority mail box is 12x12x6 inches outside diameter and costs $21.85 to ship to anywhere in the USA including Alaska and Hawaii unless the rules changed recently. So that may help you out with Ak and Hi. The post office will give you those boxes for free.
@GB-mu9ue
@GB-mu9ue Ай бұрын
What a beautiful place you have. It looks like paradise.
@Sean-i4r
@Sean-i4r Ай бұрын
Hi, Nathan. I hope things are going good for you. Congratulations on all the new upgrades. I just wanted to reach out. I'm on SSI I'm bored out of my mind. I'm good at doing eve. Nothing I can do except for electrical. Other than that, I'm your man. I'll do it for real cheap price. You pay my hotel room, you give me $30 a day to eat food and I'll work for you for that volunteer. I'll help you. We can also find a spot on your property to make a gravel pic. Cause I guarantee you have one, then you don't have to buy gravel anymore. I could just do a lot for you and save you a lot of money. I'm really good at doing stuff. Please respond and we can contact each other. If you're interested
@donaldnorth3714
@donaldnorth3714 Ай бұрын
Nathan, I realize it takes you extra time and effort to film your videos, but I assure you, most of us appreciate all the different angles and the close-ups and the quality of what you do with those films. I know it affects your workload, but I for one really appreciate what I’m watching and really get into it. Thanks again.
@SeansWoodBarn
@SeansWoodBarn Ай бұрын
Nathan, I noticed the bucket is still being used for your sawdust collection. Check with a local pool service company, and they will probably have a stockpile of empty shock buckets. It's usually a pain for them to pile up and eventually have to take them to the landfill. They are around 8 gallons and quite a bit larger in diameter. As a temporary fix, I think it could almost eliminate the dust you are getting on that new gravel. My guy calls me twice a year before he goes to the landfill to see if I need any. Free, of course.
@bretoncelt
@bretoncelt Ай бұрын
Your videos are very crative and enjoyable because of all the trouble you go to. Thank you.
@BobbieJeanM
@BobbieJeanM Ай бұрын
Thinking of all in the path of Helene and hoping you, the family and the farm came through without any significant damage. 🙏💕
@davidturk6170
@davidturk6170 Ай бұрын
Follow up to the “nail in the tree” from a few videos past. I went to Edgar Evans Marina at Center Hill Lake yesterday. They had posted “Temporary Parking” signs all along the boat landing at the marina. Those signs were nailed (one top, one bottom of the sign) into trees along the ramp. There’s part of the problem; people nailing signs to trees! If you ever get in a charitable mood with your wood scraps, you might invite your local scouts (boy, girl, cub), to come, with a responsible adult, and pick up your hardwood scraps. They could cut up those scraps into one foot sections and sell to people who have “smokers”. I’d rather buy my smoking wood from scouts, or some other local fundraiser, than Walmart. Just a thought.😂
@texasjetman
@texasjetman Ай бұрын
PS: Big Welcome to all the new members to the Channel. Pass the word around let’s help him reach 200k subscribers by Christmas.
@RobertCarneyLabs
@RobertCarneyLabs Ай бұрын
Really appreciate your added effort with video! Bet it makes a lot of difference on your viewership! I have been watching for several years and enjoy your effort! Keep up the good work!
@blnfuse
@blnfuse Ай бұрын
I have a great idea for firewood ! We use the slabwood from the outside of the logs . its already dried and easy to cut , even in bundles. If you tie it up with bailer twine you could sell it for camp wood at a park and Bruno could earn some clock $ ,
@FRBPturning
@FRBPturning Ай бұрын
Just bought a bowl blank! I’m so excited to turn this, I love character in wood! When I turn it, I will for sure make a video on my channel and give you a shout out. Keep up the great work!
@SeansWoodBarn
@SeansWoodBarn Ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time Nathan, great video!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
You bet!
@Fisherking03
@Fisherking03 Ай бұрын
Did you send that fella a text message?
@patriciaross3678
@patriciaross3678 Ай бұрын
You are a hard worker. But also a smart worker. Enjoy watching your videos. Stay Blessed 😇🙏🙏🙏.
@rossinnz
@rossinnz Ай бұрын
Your time ia apperciated Nathan. Cheers.
@ronevans852
@ronevans852 Күн бұрын
That is so neat on how that machine works, you don’t have to pull off the cuts it does it all for you. I’ve sold my farm moving out all my woodworking stuff all my saw’s are gone the barn is empty.
@stanwooddave9758
@stanwooddave9758 Ай бұрын
Poor Nathan, he gets to talking, and all of a sudden HOOF & MOUTH happens, as he talks he sticks his hoof in his mouth. And he shares with us. FUNNY STUFF. Hope your still taking Bruno for rides. Thanks for sharing this video.
@davidsing2495
@davidsing2495 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing that info on editing your videos. I never realized the time involved in editing. I appreciate the time and effort you take to bring us quality videos. Hang in there!!
@Lglenn4146
@Lglenn4146 Ай бұрын
I purchased a couple of walnut blanks from you. Beautiful wood, but my two were cut from the slab that included the pith, which always cracks. I would suggest to not use the pith slab for bowl blanks. Thanks. Enjoy your channel.
@brenthagen3049
@brenthagen3049 Ай бұрын
Leaving the pith in makes a weaker bowl and can be very dangerous1
@ralphkearns7600
@ralphkearns7600 Ай бұрын
Your lifestyle is such that there are many times where you get dragged away from one project to work on another and then you get dragged off to work on a third project. So, things do take time!!! And somewhere, dinner slips in and that takes another bite out of your day!!! Thank you. Would have loved to see a 'finished' bowl blank.
@fredbrooks8347
@fredbrooks8347 Ай бұрын
Nathan, you are a hard worker! Thanks for the videos. You are positive influence.
@danielmcmahon4880
@danielmcmahon4880 Ай бұрын
Love your videos. The new sawmill makes for some great scenery in the background. Keep up the great work!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep Ай бұрын
hi there might want to re think getting rid of all that tin , may be good for covering fire wood or other things , just a dot of silicone on a whole and it would be fine , good show best to all john
@texasjetman
@texasjetman Ай бұрын
Wow that’s gonna be a dream equipment workshop. 30x70 congratulations. Time for another T Shirt have a cartoonist draw your bearded logo holding up a wrench in one hand & axe or saw in the other. Be an awesome design.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
@@texasjetman yes sir
@kellyeigner3708
@kellyeigner3708 Ай бұрын
Glad to see you using the loader for catching the fire wood, save a little on the back
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop Ай бұрын
Thanks for your work making these videos. I enjoy watching.
@TimBrown-cy7lu
@TimBrown-cy7lu Ай бұрын
A small round stick of wood sawn about halfway through to sit your bar in is what ive used in all my trucks for years. Really cheap :) and when it wears out cut another one..... If you cut it long enough you can sit multiple saws in it!
@joebowman4659
@joebowman4659 Ай бұрын
I like the term "wood spitter". It spits out the wood....Nathan. Maybe Wood Miser can use their next version the Wood Spitter and you can get a "Naming Fee".
@stevemueller757
@stevemueller757 Ай бұрын
Love your videos Nathan. Extremely well done with your care and concern shining through. Love everything that you do including your care for your family. You’re my guy👌🌲.
@valeriehenschel1590
@valeriehenschel1590 Ай бұрын
Glad to see you cutting more turning blanks. And even the off cuts look good for turning use. I know you generally burn the scrap, but it might be worth cutting the thicker scrap into squares and selling it by bin or box, green or dry. A chop saw with a stop makes quick work of cutting the squares. Wood varieties that are not otherwise commercially available would be great. Osage orange, sassafras, butternut, etc are some that come to mind. They would most definitely be worth the extra cost over the currently available mass produced blanks.
@russellstofferahn6285
@russellstofferahn6285 Ай бұрын
Great video! For the new shop building consider an overhead hoist or a tall roll around a frame hoist. Nice to have when you need it.
@glennserikawa221
@glennserikawa221 Ай бұрын
I'm guessing, but, those who tell you that you are cutting firewood late in the season, forget that you do have a kiln, and if you need to use that wood that is not dry enough, you could put it into the kiln for a while, and it would be ready to be used.
@campy9712
@campy9712 Ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this with us. Great video!
@kennethweseman8512
@kennethweseman8512 Ай бұрын
If I remember right you got that tractor when you bought the house where your mother-in-law lives and the barn door was too short to accept an overhead cover. Also you were not haying at the time!
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 Ай бұрын
Lots of good looking milled lumber Nathan. Good to see you’re getting another good building in a few days. Stay safe, Fred.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Hey Fred
@toddpacheco4748
@toddpacheco4748 Ай бұрын
Nathan,one guy can only get everything done ✅ if he has daylight left and a lot more hands 🙌 on deck all the time 24/7😮😊❤
@kennethdalenberg9267
@kennethdalenberg9267 Ай бұрын
I love turning black walnut on the lathe, beautiful wood
@DennisSmith-rx7xy
@DennisSmith-rx7xy Ай бұрын
Nathan get you some agricultural bins that you put vegetables in and stack your firewood in that that way you can move them with a forklift and you have not have to keep restocking them
@mikenelson4136
@mikenelson4136 Ай бұрын
Glad to see you're doing something with bowl blanks. Every time I watch one of your videos and see and piece of wood going into the burn pile I think, I could have made something out of that. Yeah I'm one of those guys that doesn't like wood to go to waste.
@highline64
@highline64 Ай бұрын
I love people that don’t have their voice mails set up or full voice mail box.
@DiViLi2
@DiViLi2 Ай бұрын
I like your modern saws. They cut wood very quickly and accurately. The saws we use are very primitive.
@michaelterpak1273
@michaelterpak1273 Ай бұрын
I'm glad that you do videos, they are always interesting and well done. I'm always looking for your videos every day and disappointed when their not there. I appreciate you time and effort!!
@bazzathegreat3517
@bazzathegreat3517 25 күн бұрын
A few years back, my Dad had a maple that was bug eaten and needed cut down. He thought I was crazy when I told him to leave me a few specific pieces. I got some nice little turning pieces. Currently making some pen sets for my cousin to give as groomsmen's gifts for his wedding. I making two pen sets, one a fountain pen and one a rollerball. One pen is being made out of maple, the other out of burl cherry that my Dad found while out hunting. They then go into a walnut presentation box. There is something satisfying about taking a tree and turning it into something especially when you do every step from milling the log to apply the finish.
@thomasallen3818
@thomasallen3818 Ай бұрын
Nathan I had a Mueller steel building erected 4 years ago. I had closed cell foam sprayed in the roof and walls, and had a mini-split HVAC unit installed with a Big Ass fan hung in the center of the room which is 18’ in the center. The temperature stays 72° year around.
@williamtemple4331
@williamtemple4331 Ай бұрын
Sir I do enjoy living vicariously through you, and I do wish I had known about some thing like this when I was a younger man. Where was my guidance counselor? Any way a few questions which I am sure have already been addressed. 1) why not get some "big foot" and sonotubes and just put pilings under the feet of your equipment and then gravel around the rest of the area? 2) why not use those same type pilings to anchor some rail road ties along your drive way to hold back the gravel? 3) why doesn't Bruno saw up all of the scrap wood into pen blanks? Seems that would be a great source of income for his clocks. Take all the time you want to make and edit your videos, although I am addicted I am able to wait patiently. Thank you so very much for true honest family entertainment. The networks should learn from folks like you.
@BeardedLumber
@BeardedLumber Ай бұрын
Awesome video Congratulations on the new shop building you will love it.
@jerrygibs8120
@jerrygibs8120 Ай бұрын
Watching from Texas🤠. Thank you Nathan for sharing the various projects on your videos. Appreciate the way you explain your thoughts and experiences as you progress in each project. Yes it does take time to produce a particular video. Thank you again for sharing. It's appreciated. Hope you have a good week. Stay safe, healthy, discerning, have peace of mind and success. Blessings and prayers to you and family in Jesus's Mighty Name. ☝🙏🙌💪👊
@EricaMTB
@EricaMTB Ай бұрын
Depending on the width of the board, change the length of the blank so that they're square.
@davidburchfield2720
@davidburchfield2720 Ай бұрын
Some people make flower bowls to make biskets so thay need long bowls not square
@Akren905
@Akren905 Ай бұрын
I just asked why notma square blank but then I realized... oblong bowls that would be worked by hand not on a lathe
@patfox3988
@patfox3988 Ай бұрын
I only turn bowls on a lathe and my suggestion as well would be settle on 8x8 or 10x10. Most of the bowls that I have purchased online were 12x12x5 and shipped USPS. They fit in their standard boxes
@donhart1966
@donhart1966 Ай бұрын
I love the idea of the overhead paper towels.
@dmorgan28
@dmorgan28 Ай бұрын
That will be a nice shop for you and if you go tall enough you can add sides to it and make it wider. I do love those logs you milled. Beautiful grain. Cool video. You hang in there😅. 👍❤️
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Drevid
@Drevid Ай бұрын
You smiling at the camera on your tractor had me bark out a laugh!
@thomasallen3818
@thomasallen3818 Ай бұрын
I think the length gauge you use with your chainsaw is a pretty clever aid. Beats a guesstimate.
@ralphkearns7600
@ralphkearns7600 Ай бұрын
And here I thought you were cutting next year's firewood!!!
@jolujo5842
@jolujo5842 14 күн бұрын
Husky saws are the best. Bought an L65 in 1977 ... Ran it for 30+ years on the original piston/cylinder Estimated cords cut @ 5000+ a dozen bars and miles of chain LOL
@decline8549
@decline8549 Ай бұрын
I hear you're expanding your musical selections.
@TomBTerrific
@TomBTerrific Ай бұрын
Just a natural story teller. Thanks for the entertainment!
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Thanks for listening
@glennyork6800
@glennyork6800 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the excellent vids, they are much appreciated.
@brickslayermasonry9720
@brickslayermasonry9720 Ай бұрын
You need to locate some abc totes. There metal pallets with a metal frame around a 250 gal plastic tank. I pulled the tank and recycled it and used the pallet for firewood. Cut a opening in opposing ends to be able to reach in. Holds a little less than a half cord. Move it with your forks,take it where your splitting, handel the wood one time. Bought mine use for $ 30.00.
@stephencornell497
@stephencornell497 Ай бұрын
As per usual, Love your bumper music!
@buckshotscott2616
@buckshotscott2616 Ай бұрын
I thought that was a Grey Poupon Commercial for a minute. That's some fancy music.
@refurbansuburban
@refurbansuburban Ай бұрын
I agree that your videos are well choreographed. Well done, Sir.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@larrystewart1747
@larrystewart1747 Ай бұрын
I sure hope you make some $$$ for the videos you make. I sure like watching them. And by the way your audio and video quality are amazing. You make it look easy, like it just happens naturally. Thanks Nathan vir the videos. Also love to see Bruno on camera.
@itzcaseykc
@itzcaseykc Ай бұрын
I think that magnetic measuring rod is a great idea. Good for you to incorporate that into your tasks. Variety is the spice of life.
@RebekahTOUCHEDBYYARN
@RebekahTOUCHEDBYYARN Ай бұрын
Nathan, thank you for making me laugh today. We all need to laugh more often.
@earlsmithson4749
@earlsmithson4749 Ай бұрын
Nathan, just wanted to say “Congratulations” on your growth both on u-tube and the farm.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
thank you,
@TractorMan104
@TractorMan104 Ай бұрын
Never saw that magnetic log measure before, terrific idea!
@carterwilliams8041
@carterwilliams8041 Ай бұрын
We picked up a big horn as well a while back. If you hate that awful beeper/backup alarm, it unplugs pretty easily. That was the first thing we did after buying it.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
yeah just can't find the time lol which model did you get?
@carterwilliams8041
@carterwilliams8041 Ай бұрын
@@OutoftheWoods0623we bought a 400 to use on the hunting property and to carry saws when cutting trees and bucking logs around the mill. It’s been great for what we’re using it for. It doesn’t have a ton of power. It’s better than walking though. The beeper is under the hood section and it only takes a few seconds to pop the hood and unplug the connector. I believe I did it in the woods after making a bunch of 3 point turns. I just couldn’t take it any longer lol
@AndrewAHayes
@AndrewAHayes Ай бұрын
You should start selling figured and plane ash and poplar electric guitar blanks and ash with a 1/4" maple cap , $50-$85 per blank! maple neck blanks also $30-$50
@lessparks7802
@lessparks7802 Ай бұрын
I second Mr. Woodbarn, you need a bigger bucket! When is Walnut ever a poor choice?
@jamesgates3293
@jamesgates3293 Ай бұрын
Hopeyou all are safe from the floods. Praying for you.
@edwardhugus2772
@edwardhugus2772 Ай бұрын
I live in an Apt building now (retired) and don't have my chain saw anymore......but that magnetic marker looks like a grest idea.....I always had to use a tape measure and chalk. Your using it pre saw cut didn't bother me AT ALL!
@jeffreylong8809
@jeffreylong8809 Ай бұрын
Great music at the end of video.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
The best
@ascottpatterson
@ascottpatterson Ай бұрын
would suggest adding a central I-Beam and a either an electrical winch or just a good ole Chain Hoist that can run the length of the central I- beam . just a suggestion
@artpeck9272
@artpeck9272 Ай бұрын
Nathan, I’m tellin’ ya, the best thing for that rooster is to be the main feature in a bowl of chicken and dumplings! Oh, and you’re right, he doesn’t like you in the henhouse taking the eggs. When I was kid, 6 or 7 I guess, we had a rooster just like that and he truly hated me for the same reason.
@silentferret1049
@silentferret1049 Ай бұрын
Those style of sheds is normally for rocky or rocked areas that already have good drainage or you have underground drainage already set up. Dry locations is best for those things as they are more for shading stuff from the sun or direct rain/snow. They are mostly a temp/semi permanent structure. Believe it or not but the selling feature is its sloped off roof because of not needing gutters and simple ease to put it up. Not for all uses but people do treat them like that.
@marklapierre5629
@marklapierre5629 Ай бұрын
Nice to see you sawing again.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Yes, thanks
@PUTDEVICE
@PUTDEVICE Ай бұрын
i worked in a house factory in sweden a few years ago, we imported cross-glued wood boards 3-10 inches thick i think it was pine. some had ambrosia. green spotted which I thought was very nice.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
Very cool
@seidrover
@seidrover Ай бұрын
Really enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work
@strydertheranger58
@strydertheranger58 16 күн бұрын
I saw several holders for chain saws on Amazon for side by sides and trackters
@AlfradoGaming-lq1jx
@AlfradoGaming-lq1jx Ай бұрын
Was just watching the video here couple states north of you. Was thinking of your dust collection issue, maybe a possible solution for you to think about. That last bay next to Mr Kato, close it up on three sides and have swinging doors on the out side and have you hose blow directly into the bay. Concrete the floor for easy scooping with the Kato or tractor bucket..just a thought. Keep up the awesome work.
@stanshearer7343
@stanshearer7343 Ай бұрын
Hey Nathan, I think you had it right the first time. It sure spits out wood pretty fast!
@annlaurie1484
@annlaurie1484 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the video, that grin at the camera makes me giggle every time 😊
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
I'm glad!
@cardrivingdude
@cardrivingdude Ай бұрын
A french drain system might help with your mini hangar/shed with no gutters.
@RM-q1x
@RM-q1x Ай бұрын
Maybe you can make a 1x sleeve for the bar of your saw and mount it on your side by side somewhere.
@cmkeelDIM
@cmkeelDIM Ай бұрын
Tractor rear tire thing is normal. All you have to do is take it of and rotate it halfway. BOOM instant wide track. Now that is as long as the wheel has a dish shape (offset to one rim) to it. If its centered from rim to rim it has zero offset and wont help. Davinci Resolve has a full featured free version. Save your 25 bucks.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 Ай бұрын
Definitely in agreement. Videoing and editing is a time consuming project. I use iMovie which come with the MacBook Pro. No subscription just basic editing and correction, good enough for now.
@TheBest-ob1kj
@TheBest-ob1kj Ай бұрын
Nice plan building a new shed.
@JamesHarris-yq3mu
@JamesHarris-yq3mu Ай бұрын
Just a thought, couldn't you do a fast seasoning of the firewood by stacking it in any spare space you have in your kiln? (A years drying in a much shorter time frame) Also you could probably put a lot of the wood you take to the burn pile through the mulcher. Maybe you can use the metal from the building you are taking down to put a lean to on your pole barn.
@markbray3038
@markbray3038 Ай бұрын
Bruno riding in the new side by side I am a fan. I am also disavantaged and I am sure I would enjoy the ride in it too.
@danapted
@danapted Ай бұрын
If you ship with uses instead of ups or FedEx the cost is the same to the majority of Alaska as it is to Seattle or montana.
@arthursulenski799
@arthursulenski799 Ай бұрын
I wonder if the factory wheel spread has to do with crop rows, I did a lot of cultivating (back when) and the tire spacing was set to the crop rows. 🌽 🌽
@hughcutfield697
@hughcutfield697 Ай бұрын
You might need to employ your Dad to come over and do the work, while you fiddle with the cameras. Yes, really good varied shots, keep up the great work, from Auckland, New Zealand
@roaldhughes7429
@roaldhughes7429 Ай бұрын
Landscapers use attachments to hold their tools to their trailers. Beth your local trailer dealer has one.
@bobherget7676
@bobherget7676 Ай бұрын
I happen to like your magnetic log gauge.
@johnbrazo8
@johnbrazo8 Ай бұрын
You the man nat❤
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 Ай бұрын
Well my Bowl is Blank most of the time......Thank you Nathan.... Shoe🇺🇸
@acecattledog8510
@acecattledog8510 Ай бұрын
Keep that flat siding to lay down in the garden to walk on and keep the weeds down. End of the season, stack them against/ between a couple Tposts.
@daveb8598
@daveb8598 Ай бұрын
The metal siding/roofing is probably already gone, but I bet if you put it up on marketplace for $1 a sheet you'd really help people out with building coops/sheds etc.
@doylerabjohn3435
@doylerabjohn3435 Ай бұрын
It's hard to believe I've been watching since 2018. I actually remember when you bought it & you said the previous owner had rabbits in it...... I remember definitely remember those days.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 Ай бұрын
thanks for watching
@keithprinn720
@keithprinn720 Ай бұрын
re-using all those siding sheets of metal must be something to do. I can understand the posts are full of rust at the bottom level. can you cut them and re use the top half and connect two half posts together for posts to reuse? or just cut more posts with your mill?
@liquidrockaquatics3900
@liquidrockaquatics3900 Ай бұрын
I wish I lived closer to you Nathan, I think our sons would be friends.
@keithhaycraft3765
@keithhaycraft3765 Ай бұрын
F you have foxes in your area, a good tip to keep them from digging under the wire of the pen is to bury a strip around a foot wide just under the surface of the ground. What happens is that the fox hits the wire netting he decides that it is too difficult to get into the pen & gives up.
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